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How do you tell a Massey Ferguson 3 cylinder 35 to a Massey Ferguson 35x Vintage tractor
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- Опубликовано: 28 апр 2023
- Just a short video to help people no the small differences between the Massey ferguson 3 cylinder A 3 152 vintage tractor
The 35 and 35x were super tractors .. I loved driving them and the Ford Dexta. simple to drive and now I look at tractors now. I would be useless even starting one, yet alone driving one . look after that tractor Mr B. its a gem !!!!
Agree completely pal. This modern stuff way to complicated
We've had a 35x since about 1989, my dad taught me to drive it when I was about 5 years old, we still have and it still runs when we need it.
BEAUTIFUL LOOKING TRACTOR!!!!! If I win the lottery I’m buying a field then 35x & just drive it around the field alllll day singing the song by the worsels.
Yes, I'm glad to say my 35x conforms on all those points. She may not be the most beautiful example but she is very original and still does a fine day's work. From the dealer plate it seems she was delivered to the original owner in May 1963.
Had our 1 with multipower for about 40 years .punched above its weight.and didn't often need more fuel than that tiny tank for a day
Brilliant video showing the difference's between the 35 and the 35x, the diff lock one is the one I hear being argued most, I do know of at least two 35x's near me that hadn't got a diff lock and were bought new by the owners, they didn't want a diff lock as the men were used working tractors without the diff lock
What a beautiful example of a 35 X . That’s my dream to get mine to that standard one day .
If I lived closer we’d definitely go for a pint 🍺.
Another great video thank you .
Thank you very much but she is not that good close up.
What engine oil would you recommend to use on my 35X .
Are they any special oil for the vintage tractors ?
Because the differential lock did not release when turning at the headland, my father had a fatal accident in a canal when we lived in the Netherlands. We still use the 1963 Massey Ferguson 35X and it will always remain in the family. It is now enjoying the Canadian weather in Alberta. Nice video with humor!
That sounds so tragic for your family. I have often forgotten to bad the brakes with newer tractors, is if it got stuck I can imagine how quickly its situation escalated.
I’m time served at banner lane me ,when the factory closed we were all devastated, AGCO ,took the franchise and closed us down at the first chance, thank you sire for reminding me of my place in British farming history
Glad that I did that for you. It is very sad what they did to the British tractor manufacturing. It was the same for international at Doncaster. I did come down just before the end for a final visit and it was a sad time.
I worked in the machine shop, area that made the crown wheel and pinion section ,I really loved my job ,
Beautiful tractor by the way ,when travelling through Ireland I see these all the time,
They seem to take a shine to the 135- 185 and the old te- 20 , The triple triangle was the sign of class and very much respected around the world ,Tony Blair let many manufacturers close without fighting for them , not just Massey Ferguson,
Take care and I will watch with interest ,your channel
Greatest little tractors
Very nice tractor we have a 35 3 cylinder a 135 and a 165 on our small farm in Ni cheers for the video very informative 👍
Beautiful restoration of your tractor! Looks amazing.
A great video and really well edited too. Every guy should have something Perkins powered in his shed.
Keep up the great work.
Cheers David.
Absolutely Spot on with what you say, Just one Question for you to solve for me" I have heard over the years that the 35x has Chrome Liners and the 3cyl engine has Steel Liners"!! Have you or anyone else heard of this,? Many thanks and top marks for your Stunning 35x.
Sounds lovely & sweet that little 35X of yours Richard another cracking video my friend .
I Love these tractor's make me happy
One sure way to tell the 3 cylinder from the 4 cylinder is that the intake and the exhaust on the 4 cylinder are on the same side, the Perkins 3 is a "flow through" design with the intake and exhaust on opposite sides of the engine. Mine is a 4 cylinder Standard engine.
Great tractor I like the chrome, I have a fully restored 1958 4 cylinder petrol 35, I'm in the next county to you, I grew up on farms in the 70's with new World Series IH tractors built in Doncaster, I'd love a restored one of them too (maybe a 475 /444 or a 674).But will never part with my 35.
Learn something new every day 👍🏼
Good vid and the cap is a must and what a sweet sound
Great video as always keep up the great work and videos the tractor looks great Mr b
Beautiful Tractor 😍
You are spot on with the diff lock, an option on the 35X, but it was Standard on a MF 35X Multi-Power. Diff lock was about £37 pound extra for the 35X as of a Price List I have, dated 1st of February 1963. A lot of Dealers ordered the 35X fitted with a Diff Lock from Banner Lane
Thank you for that information. Interesting.
Could you possibly give me a date for the publication of the brochure. Please😊
@@Mr_b_yorkshire_farmer I guess your lovely 35X was made early March 1964 ?
An old farmer once told me "never trust a bloke with clean fingernails ! Looks like you qualify ;) thanks for the vids
Have a a 135, 35,35x and a goldbelly myself and the 35x would be the favourite never once has it given any bit of bother, goldbelly is the nicest one but struggles starting and needs heaters in head and a good starter
I was along there a couple of weeks ago admiring your wheat, beans looked to have astablihed well too , nice video Richard 👍
Cheers mark.
Great vid, didn't know the diff lock was optional also nice to see the gearbox being treated with respect with double clutching.
nice Tractor nice video, thanks for sharing.
Great video - nice to get good info on the differences between the 35 and the X. I must say I like the air intake - my 'hard to start' 4 cylinder is a lot easier to start since my neighbour cut an extra grove in the top of the 4 pistons and installed an extra piston ring on each one for me!
That dose sound a good idea. Some day to change the starter to a 3 cylinder one and a high put out battery helps too.
@@Mr_b_yorkshire_farmer Yes, I changed the starter to a Ford starter which has a lot more life than the old one had. It always starts but it'll never be as easy to start as the 3 cylinder
Love the video pal. My uncle had a farm with two 35x and 2 65s one multi power and a 185 multi power. I learned to drive on fergies. Brings back great happy memories of cracking little tractors!
Fantastic bit of kit
Have 35X original brochure here (multipower version) and the diff lock was indicated as standard equipment !!
Diff lock was standard on the multi power 35x , but not standard on any others
I have regular 35 - her so many say negative about driving with multipower down the slope...
Was a bit weird design tho, you must admit.
i have a 35 here in Canada but it is called here the 35 deluxe has multi power and diff lock with power shift rear wheels
Ahhh how interesting how far the video has got. That is a very good spec of tractor you have.
Thing of beauty
One of the great Tractors
Excellent video as always mate……. SH
Hermosura de tractor . una verdadera reliquia !!!!
I have a 4cyl 35 and fitted a crankshaft from a leyland oe160 also con rods and this gives the tractor a "LOT" more torque and power. I think it is about 2.6 litres now up from 2.3. I also have a modified diesel pump from an old commer diesel walk through van which allows it to rev at 3600rpm all day long and on the road it goes like a rocket.
It sounds really interesting what you have done.
My 35X has the two piece generator bracket. It also has the diff lock. It's a late 1962 build.
I have a late 1962 35x multipower with the two piece dyamo bracket also
@@patConlon If you look very carefully at the brochure shown in the video.
it shows the improved 35x engine with two piece dynamo bracket
well picked.@@188fergie
I find that the 4-cylinder 23C is a better engine. It has got better characteristics. Better torque reserve I would reckon.
It's not hard to start as long as you have a working Thermostart. Unless it is very cold in the winter. Then you might want to use an electrical block heater foe a while. There is pros and cons in everything. The 23C sooth up the engine oil quite fast, and the 3-152 will drop a liner and blow the head gasket now and then.
I do not know what temperatures you are referring to when you say "cold", but I have a Lincoln SA250 welder with the Perkins D3.152 engine. It has started up with zero problems at temperatures of just under 20 Fahrenheit.
I always wonder when people claim diesels are hard starting as to the maintenance and upkeep of the engine, as well as the condition/size of battery cables and terminals.I make my own starter and alternator cables from welding cable, and always much larger than necessary. Poor tuning, wear, etc are contributors to difficult starting, but far too often the cables are undersized or neglected and do not conduct well enough to give the starter adequate amperage.
You can’t beat the old MF’s Cracking tractors. , better than the high tech junk we have now invading the countryside 👍
Yeah, I agree we have an MF35, FE35, TE20s, Leyland 285 & Dexta's
@@scorm3088 that’s brilliant, fields were never so wet with the smaller tractors carrying out the work ,now the fields seem to be forming pools after heavy rain fall , now am not sure if it’s the massive equipment they use to carry out field work , cause land drains weren’t designed for such heavy equipment we have now ,
@Stevie Chalmers Yeah, everything has changed, sadly.
Great video. Like you say diff lock was optional… some MF35’s have it some MF35X’s don’t.
one of the greatest tractors éver built 👊⁉️power to weight ratio and manouverability superb!! Salút…🔥
The gearboxes were far superior to the Forson Dextas.
My favourite tractors Massey 35 and Massey 135
No expert here, but I was told the 35X had more horsepower but was always harder to start
Very true. I was told the same. This tractor is difficult to start in the cold without heat
50 years ago mf 35 with mill loader and lister take put bale handler 12bales on front and 12 bales on the back quite a load for small tractor
Nice to see a perfect massy. Better gear box than the dexter
Never seen one with a foot throttle.
That’s later little add on.
Would you do a quick vid on how you did it?
1st Class Resto !!
Superb condition! Always fancied one but nowhere to use it at the moment. Wondered if you'd do a video giving the differences between a 35 and a 135 for us novices.😂😉👍
I guess I could yes?
@@Mr_b_yorkshire_farmer That would be great 👍, now I've subbed, I'll keep my eyes skimmed.
MrB, I have aging tractor That I'd like to restore to decent condition. Could you recommend me steps I should take to do it correctly.
Firstly I would not rush into painting the tractor. I would first service it. I would try and possibly use it in a few events to see what problems you may have and then set too and do any mechanical jobs that need doing. Nothing worse than scratching fresh paint off.
How to recognize multi power transmission ,is it visible from outside.
Is there any other ways to identity a 35 to a 35x because here in Portugal there are still lots of them but when you see them for sale they are say its 35x but I've not seen one yet with a diff lock , most have been modified with a alterator instead of a dynamo , all got underswept exhaust and not got original serial plates on , or rev counter , is there any other way to tell if its a x or not ?
Would it matter if it looks and sounds like 35x or 35 😊
@@tomotoole7241 well if the both look the same which they all do and there are mechanical or engine differences and diff lock was an option I'm struggling to see what the x stands for and the purpose of your video if there are no power difference because I've used both all my life but always found the a little more powerful and a more responsive engine
@@davidgoode5768 Was the X a slightly higher reving engine with a lower ratio gearbox to compensate ??
The x should have a heavier lift top cover, it should also have grease nipples on the front hub caps, some later ones, front wheels changed to 7.5 x 16 after a particular serial number, I can't recall what that number is, the engine has 2 posi drive head bolts near the sump as apposed to hex heads on a 35
@@mc461 any info help because I got one to go and see that's for sale and he is claiming its an x but frome the obvious its got no diff lock and the only way I would personally know is if I put it to work but that not possible when you just drive miles to view it and where I am they are not very educated on the different specs , they will even advertise a 4 cylinder here as an x because they just don't know , same issues here with the 135 & 130 and they are nothing alike as I'm sure you know
For Massey Ferguson 35 or 135 does still exist original parts to buy?
@@user-id6sp5nd2e yes there are some parts still available. But not many. Massey call it plus 10 parts I believe.
Spent a lot of time on a 35 (never drove 35X shame!!) but I did see the one in the video had a foot throttle, never seen that in any 35 before, was that option too?
Great little tractors in their day. Martin.
Thank you for your comment. The foot throttle is from a later 135 Massey.
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Great vid!
Lovely tractor, just a bit curious about that gas pedal, is that a standard feature? Or is it fitted on after? Because my 35 petrol does not have it.
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Thank you. Yes it is a later fitment on the 135.
Our 35x was fitted with the Perkins 3cyl 2-stroke engine as were all the good ferguson 35s. The Standard 4cyl was just crap!
Great video as always are you at farmer Copley's road run this year
Thanks. Sadly not this year
Good video well done not bad for a pom
Can you send me same exhaust cylensor of MF35
Yes.grand.runner.
wasn't there also a MF 37 and MF 42 ?
It starts
COUNT THE CYLINDERS ! SIMPLE AS THAT ! DUH !
Hey Mr B, is the tipping trailer in the picture the one you also got right now?
Regards Tim
Yes?
@@Mr_b_yorkshire_farmer i thought so 😉
What’s the weights and frame off ?
They are Massey weights and an original Massey weight frame.
@@Mr_b_yorkshire_farmer I’ll look for a set for similar setup for the ploughing
Does the 35x have an inspection plate/filter under the sump ?
No. There is a round circle around the oil plug area but no inspection hole.
Thanks... is there an engine id stamp or just the plate on dash.. ? Ive had someone question my tractor.. it all adds up to be a 35x..
Love these 3cyl MFs, a 35X was the very first tractor I drove ...at the age of 6! It'd be extremely interesting with a comparison between the original British built 35 vs the IMT/ TAFE / Kenya versions. They do look very similar however I will assume there are differences below the surface?
They are very similar. They do different ones based on the 35 and 135. There are many parts that are the same hence the availability of parts still for both tractors.
Nice 35x, was lift cover heavier on the 35x
You could be learning me something there? I honestly don’t no?
@@Mr_b_yorkshire_farmer Thanks for the reply, there is 2 types as I changed one in the past, the pipe from the pump was longer approx 2/3 mm of a difference
I no that the early 35’s have a smaller piston for the lift but other than that? That’s for the info.
@@Mr_b_yorkshire_farmer no bother i will investigate further
Ah think wi need us cap….
35 x=44 hp diesel,35 benzin=35 hp.
What pain ral ?
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Was that a heartford trailer
Which one? The red one we used to put the old dryer on?
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To me,the. Name massy Ferguson,is a job,when I see it I see money.
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Massey Ferguson kral traktör.
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