I will admit that you need to be of a similar skill level in order for stall to be effective, but the way it negates counterplay is just so unfun and I really, really wish strategies like PP stalling and regenerator spamming in particular were limited
You dont need to be a similar skill level, i could have beaten the swiss player with this matchup. The issue with stall is that 100% of the game is decided on team preview, some teams can break stall,.others can't. The swiss player could have red cjay every turn he still would have lost
@@l-create7247 unless you're a semi pro level player, a pro can certainly beat a stall team irrespective of match up, purely by capitalizing on small mistakes
Stall is often played to curb stomp someone weaker than you. You never bring out stall against someone who's stronger than you. Also stall as good, bad, and unwinnable mu like anything else. Even if stall is more about mu locking than any other playstyle, in some games you need to play good to win. Also stall isn't that good in ss ou.
i mean... at that level u wont hate stall... u would more or less hate getting hard MU fish'ed instead. The difference between stall and MU fish is that stall is not as hard of a MU fish as bringing polteigheist, suicune, Sticky webs, TR, sun,e tc. At least vs stall most teams have their outs vs them and vs MU fish such as suicune against a slowbro team or webs is just "i couldnt have done anything" feeling
@@ToasterPizzaFun Matchup Fishing. You basically run a very specific team in hopes of running into a hard counter matchup, effectively making an unloseable game for yourself. It's seen a cheesy and a cheap way to win, because instead of bringing a normal team that's consistent you coinflipped on bringing a hard counter matchup.
It's not india playing the bad guy. It's just pj (a very good player) using stall to secure the win against someone worse than him. It's not bad, it's just how he game works.
Anyone bashing stall tactics, don't blame the Indian team. Blame the rules of the game. This is a competition and the goal is to win, even if it's not hype. You see the same thing in any esport that's not perfectly balanced. The tournament organizers could have banned certain pokemon or moves if they didn't want to let stall teams be competitive.
@@seanscott2677 yeah ik.... the players are doing whatever they could to win the WORLD CUP! they should be using the best team they have against that player
This looks very hard to deal with. Maybe if the opposing team could just find one good opening the stall team crumbles (like it usually does) but the coverages are insane
well u can usually c-team the opponent as u can scout them out and find out what they are using so they cover the teams they usually use or mons and have a favourable MU that way
@@darthhydreigon820 have knock of on every other mon, i usually like to run rain with knock off on pelliper and lando. plus 99% of toxapex run black sludge
The reason team India might be using stall is because stall had like no bad match ups. Its always reliable, yes its grindy and painful to deal with. But stall is really easy to use and not prediction reliant. Its also difficult to take advantage of well-built stall teams as they are not passive, if you put six blobs you would eventually lose but if you put pokemon that can win a battle in 150 turns then you can win. As freezai said, it can't have bad match ups because you can just switch into the counter. I personally would use stall because of its massive reliability, on ladder though I hate stall.
Gen 8 stall isn't really that great though. Now if people stop prepping for it all (because it isn't great therefore most don't use it), then yeah it can win games; it's like a pendulum swinging back and forth from not good to solid counter pick. The opponent's team in this game was not suited at all to face stall which is on them. Could have been taunt Torn or taunt Koko for example, which would have helped tremendously (other examples: as freezai said, spikes on ferro would have been better here)
Really enjoying these tournament commentary videos, really insightful and entertaining despite the stall strats. Always something to learn when watching you
Teams with trappers do crazy well against stall, like imagine if he had magnezone to get rid of corviknight, lando would have put in so much work as well as melmetal
Setup sweepers, expecially the ones that can threaten clefable. Trappers and taunters also do wonders against this kind of teams, and so do heavy hazard sets.
i honestly really enjoy stall because as predictable, safe and matchup reliant as it may be, it's still really interesting to see purely defensive teams be overpowering
Stall is always the style that separates the best players from the rest - if you can't break through it, you're not going to go far. GSC players managed to break through stall and make the game offense-oriented for years, yall can do it too. This is just like those dumb years of "no SkarmBliss on wifi battles". Pack a stall and/or wall-breaker folks
Carrying wall breakers for the specific niche of breaking some bulky mons isn't too handy, when it's best to carry something to deal with HO, BO, and balance and semi stall. Almost all wall breakers are slow and hard hitting, or frail and easily wallable by another mon. Stall isn't too common a playstyle and carrying a mon that's deadweight in almost everyother match isn't worth it...
@@TrainerGoldAlt that is the fascinating thing though, it is like a pendulum. People believe stall isn't too common, so they stop prepping for it. Then India sees an opening to exploit and perhaps this leads to more people using stall, but then it reaches a nexus and more people start to prep for stall, reducing its viability and usage again. Rinse and repeat
@@Takkunda Thats why i said "face stall". Only the opponents are facing stall unless they both have stall, in which case no one is having fun. Also, just because they use it doesent mean they enjoy it, but they just find it optimal as they know the other teams are not prepared as they are not expecting someone to use such bs
its common courtesy.. i mean people also shake hands at smash tournies when someone is playing a zoner and what you dont find fun doesnt mean others do especially at such a high level
I used to watch some of the Pokémon world championship battles a few years ago. I stopped paying them any mind when a battle came down to Stakataka vs Stakataka PP stall. I know it's not on the teams because they're just trying to win, but the organisers really need to do something about removing full stall teams. I know you can find outs to collapse stall teams, but what's never fun is stall vs stall. I'm not sure what the solution would be, because you can't ban stall outright, that would be stupid. Maybe have a requirement for a certain number of Pokémon with offensive stats? Or a certain number of offensive moves on a team. If you want competitive play to thrive, it needs to be fun to play and fun to watch, so limiting stall is in the interests of tournament organisers
to restrictive for new players and most teams may suffer as a resurt of this new rule besides stall.... THis may not even work as there are some stall pokemon who just hit hard to
@@darthhydreigon820 I know these are hardly perfect, but I feel like there should be something. There's a reason why double team teams are banned, and while it's easy to ban one move instead of a strategy, it shows that making changes in the interest of a good competitive scene are supported
@@goodguykonrad3701 double team is uncompetitive and generally forces bad countermeasures against it. Top ladder players do not want it to change and idt any of them would support it. You shouldnt remove a playstyle just cuz you dislike it cuz what about to the players that do? they are not gonna like it and ur just restricting a playstyle cuz u dislike it... its like how many people disagree about how people complain about legendary spammers
No hate on stall , you play what gives you a higher chance to win But That's why I Only play National Dex with all its stupidly powerfull mega and z moves running arround.
Was looking for to next battle in the World cup. Then I notice title of video and opted out. Stall is pretty broken cause the only counter is Hyper Offensive team and that can be beaten by Stall team too if they get a few predict rights. Often times being easy predicts like knowing when a Pokemon is a Sweeper type that counters the pokemon you currently have on screen so, you predict that and swap into their weakness. God I hate full stall team. Important having 1-2 stall mons on every team obviously but...a full team?! come on India...
Stall really isn’t overpowered, properly positioning your powerful wallbreakers and making some good predicts can break a stall team, just the 50 turns in the meantime may be pretty uneventful.
stall is not very good in this meta and relies on sometimes making heavy reads to get out of a sticky situation and it has no way of winning out of a losing scenario. HO is sure a bad MU for it ad many other teams usually can cause it problems... And... full stall teams are fine tbh they are playing a tournament, their goal is to win... if they scouted their opponent and determined they are weak to stall why wouldnt they bring stall to win the world cup
as others have said, stall isn't even that good in the gen 8 meta. It has it's good matchups obviously, if you aren't prepped for it, but fitting stallbreakers on a team isn't really that tough
@@TrainerGoldAlt Stall is built on having the least opportunity to mess up. If for example the stall player makes 4 mistakes and the balance team makes 4 mistakes, the stall players mistakes can be fixed by using protect, heal bell, regenerator, recovery, etc. The balance teams mistakes usually result in 1 or 2 mons bein K.O.d
@トーン What's your point? The same can be said for any playstyle not just stall. What I'm saying is that stall has the biggest capacity for ignoring mistakes and making mistakes in stall can be fixed unlike for other playstyles which may not have recovery. Even EV spreads can be manipulated to minimize mistakes being punished. And no, stall teams only require like 4 mons to function. Its not like losing a piece in a puzzle. If you're implying that mistakes are an inevitability and that is the weakness of stall players, I can very much say that it would be worse for the non stall team if/when they make the same number of mistakes. Not to mention that if your opponent making a mistake is your only chance to win, that's very unhealthy for competitive play.
@@potatovine stall is usually the most punished for their mistakes... losing a ton of hp on corviknigth for ex.. opens you up to kartana and without any offense you can struggle to kill it or force it out. Stall teams require 6 mons to function and are basically screwed over the most if a mon dies.... lets go back to an example such as if you lose a lot of hp on blissey because you had to use it to beat moltres-g then what happens against lets say volcarona comes in then what? blissey is gone pretty much and yu cannot use it to beat volcarona therefore the team falls apart. Stall is very punished for even slipping up once idk what ur even talking about
Basically, water Urshifu is countered by any rocky helmet users and Toxapex, Ferro, Slowbro and Tangrowth. with dark Urshifu only Buzzwole and bulky fairy types was safe to switch in, but there aren't that many bulky fairy types that can switch into poison jab/iron head, especially if you consider banded Urshifu
@@icymiles just because somthings viable doesn't mean it isn't disrespectful to your opponent. It's like spawn camping in COD, you can do it to get kills easier but everyone's going to hate you for it.
@@Takkunda your not wrong but they have fun doing it, nobody has fun using or playing against stall. For the opponent it's annoying and takes forever to fight and for the person using it they just make brainless plays for 40+ turns untill they suffocate their opponent's team. Melee is a very different game than pokemon where the viable characters can be counted on your hands. Pokémon in the otherhand is extremely versatile and allows for the player to make any pokemon work in some way if they put enough effort into it, as wells as the commonly thought of as viable pokemon in OU being about 40 allowing major eam diversity without even taking into account items, evs, or moves.
@@pyranitar what? why are you so butthurt over stall.. you sound like those people on the "LEGENDARY SPAMMER" videos that critize the way someone can play the game... let people enjoy what they want to play
I know that using stall will definitely come back to India. Like it's so inconsistent. If they were to use balanced teams it would have been way better
well ofc if they use it to much they will become predictable... i doubt they will become that predictable and they are just using it to punish underprepping it for stall
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freezai when he realizes his teammates are only going to use stall, ruining his chances of making world cup content: 👁️👄👁️
I'd happily watch somebody hard carry a team to victory, no matter the costs...
Those games are cringe as hell.
It's definitely not ideal lol, but still fine content. Oh well
Stall is hillarious content
"Not enough PP" Dude that's exactly what my girlfriend said last night
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Mans packing flame orb for that self burn
If you are saying the truth hope it was joking, that would just be plain rude to judge someone by that
@@woomynation he’s joking dw
Really nice to have a pro clearly commentate for everyone to understand
I will admit that you need to be of a similar skill level in order for stall to be effective, but the way it negates counterplay is just so unfun and I really, really wish strategies like PP stalling and regenerator spamming in particular were limited
Heavy duty boots, remove em
You dont need to be a similar skill level, i could have beaten the swiss player with this matchup. The issue with stall is that 100% of the game is decided on team preview, some teams can break stall,.others can't. The swiss player could have red cjay every turn he still would have lost
@@l-create7247 unless you're a semi pro level player, a pro can certainly beat a stall team irrespective of match up, purely by capitalizing on small mistakes
Definitely not. All you do is switch to a counter and spam recovery. Stall has a much lower skill level than any other team type
Stall is often played to curb stomp someone weaker than you. You never bring out stall against someone who's stronger than you. Also stall as good, bad, and unwinnable mu like anything else. Even if stall is more about mu locking than any other playstyle, in some games you need to play good to win. Also stall isn't that good in ss ou.
India really trying to be the "bad guy" of the tournament, and I love it :]
i mean... at that level u wont hate stall... u would more or less hate getting hard MU fish'ed instead. The difference between stall and MU fish is that stall is not as hard of a MU fish as bringing polteigheist, suicune, Sticky webs, TR, sun,e tc. At least vs stall most teams have their outs vs them and vs MU fish such as suicune against a slowbro team or webs is just "i couldnt have done anything" feeling
they are
@@darthhydreigon820 what exactly is MU fish? I've seen the phrase a few times, but haven't found an explanation or anything.
@@ToasterPizzaFun Matchup Fishing. You basically run a very specific team in hopes of running into a hard counter matchup, effectively making an unloseable game for yourself. It's seen a cheesy and a cheap way to win, because instead of bringing a normal team that's consistent you coinflipped on bringing a hard counter matchup.
It's not india playing the bad guy. It's just pj (a very good player) using stall to secure the win against someone worse than him. It's not bad, it's just how he game works.
Anyone bashing stall tactics, don't blame the Indian team. Blame the rules of the game. This is a competition and the goal is to win, even if it's not hype. You see the same thing in any esport that's not perfectly balanced. The tournament organizers could have banned certain pokemon or moves if they didn't want to let stall teams be competitive.
and everyone still continues to bash on them.... god damn it
@@darthhydreigon820 half the people here are kids and have 0 exposure to any other esport type thing lmao.
stall isn't even that bad. The hate is exaggerated
@@Takkunda yep... i mean you should use stall if it gives u the greatest chanec to win ..
@@seanscott2677 yeah ik.... the players are doing whatever they could to win the WORLD CUP! they should be using the best team they have against that player
I'm absolutely loving the series, its really entertaining to watch this strategies and battles
This looks very hard to deal with. Maybe if the opposing team could just find one good opening the stall team crumbles (like it usually does) but the coverages are insane
well u can usually c-team the opponent as u can scout them out and find out what they are using so they cover the teams they usually use or mons and have a favourable MU that way
The best counter to stall is wirlpool perish song rest azumarill
@@justinchase6666 shed shell toxapex: 🤡
@@justinchase6666 till shed shell pex comes in
@@darthhydreigon820 have knock of on every other mon, i usually like to run rain with knock off on pelliper and lando. plus 99% of toxapex run black sludge
The reason team India might be using stall is because stall had like no bad match ups. Its always reliable, yes its grindy and painful to deal with. But stall is really easy to use and not prediction reliant. Its also difficult to take advantage of well-built stall teams as they are not passive, if you put six blobs you would eventually lose but if you put pokemon that can win a battle in 150 turns then you can win. As freezai said, it can't have bad match ups because you can just switch into the counter. I personally would use stall because of its massive reliability, on ladder though I hate stall.
Gen 8 stall isn't really that great though. Now if people stop prepping for it all (because it isn't great therefore most don't use it), then yeah it can win games; it's like a pendulum swinging back and forth from not good to solid counter pick. The opponent's team in this game was not suited at all to face stall which is on them. Could have been taunt Torn or taunt Koko for example, which would have helped tremendously (other examples: as freezai said, spikes on ferro would have been better here)
while Basil's team looks the standard good team, it does not look like it has prepared anything special against stall team like this
Elec terrain + tpunch melme
Not saying it's a good mu, but it's definitly winnable with good plays.
I love the tournament coverage videos!
india really trynna be the villain of this arc
RNGesus through a game they should have lost, then pulling DOUBLE MU fish stall lmfao
Can you cover other teams that are not India if all they are going to do is use stall?
When he says 20% ONLY. You can feel the dissatisfaction of not being able to break through
Really enjoying these tournament commentary videos, really insightful and entertaining despite the stall strats. Always something to learn when watching you
I’ve really enjoyed your content lately. Keep it up
His avatar suits him. Battle took as long as a close combat takes to do 100% in gen4 on a snorlax
impressive plays on both sides
Is there even a team which can counter this? That team is straight out of hell
Teams with trappers do crazy well against stall, like imagine if he had magnezone to get rid of corviknight, lando would have put in so much work as well as melmetal
@@woomynation that's a good point, magnezone would destroy corviknight and allow hazards by extent
@@shadebinder3599 yes, and croviknight was the only thing stopping lando from spamming eq as well as pressure stalling
Setup sweepers, expecially the ones that can threaten clefable. Trappers and taunters also do wonders against this kind of teams, and so do heavy hazard sets.
mold breaker exca with sword dance and a magnezone for corvik
man, what an exciting match, almost as exciting as watching grass grow
As a swiss person, I can just say those nicknames couldn't be more swisslike
i honestly really enjoy stall because as predictable, safe and matchup reliant as it may be, it's still really interesting to see purely defensive teams be overpowering
For anyone Swiss watching, some of those nicknames are absolute top-tier. Especially Urshifu 🤭
Can you explain the urshifu name to a non -swiss speaker
Stall is always the style that separates the best players from the rest - if you can't break through it, you're not going to go far. GSC players managed to break through stall and make the game offense-oriented for years, yall can do it too.
This is just like those dumb years of "no SkarmBliss on wifi battles". Pack a stall and/or wall-breaker folks
Carrying wall breakers for the specific niche of breaking some bulky mons isn't too handy, when it's best to carry something to deal with HO, BO, and balance and semi stall. Almost all wall breakers are slow and hard hitting, or frail and easily wallable by another mon. Stall isn't too common a playstyle and carrying a mon that's deadweight in almost everyother match isn't worth it...
@@TrainerGoldAlt that is the fascinating thing though, it is like a pendulum. People believe stall isn't too common, so they stop prepping for it. Then India sees an opening to exploit and perhaps this leads to more people using stall, but then it reaches a nexus and more people start to prep for stall, reducing its viability and usage again. Rinse and repeat
Stall is just annoying to face, honestly. Am sad for my Swiss companions that had to live thru this hell
Feels like the only way to beat Stall is by using unique Teams like Weatherball Landorus or Special Sharpedo
Nope
Strong breakers that have the coverage to break most common stall cores work well
6-0!!!! simply amazing
Maybe a dumb question, but why is Freezai playing for team India?
He's Indian ???
@@rishu_sinha well, that figures
running stall and saying have fun is just so stupid, you well know no one is gonna have fun when they face stall
Its fun for them. The opponents misery is your joy. Lol
@@Takkunda Thats why i said "face stall". Only the opponents are facing stall unless they both have stall, in which case no one is having fun.
Also, just because they use it doesent mean they enjoy it, but they just find it optimal as they know the other teams are not prepared as they are not expecting someone to use such bs
its common courtesy.. i mean people also shake hands at smash tournies when someone is playing a zoner and what you dont find fun doesnt mean others do especially at such a high level
Great stuff glad that ur posting this can’t wait for ur match ofc.
India needs to grow some balls fr stall again?
Love these world cup videos, thanks Freezai
Where can we see whole standings of the qualifying round ?
Stall... what a thrill.
For your battle, I think you should record the replay and do post-commentary to ensure complete focus
Hey freezai are you from India or something?
OFC HE IS INDIAN
jokes on you i run stealth rock and spikes on ferrothorn
I used to watch some of the Pokémon world championship battles a few years ago. I stopped paying them any mind when a battle came down to Stakataka vs Stakataka PP stall. I know it's not on the teams because they're just trying to win, but the organisers really need to do something about removing full stall teams. I know you can find outs to collapse stall teams, but what's never fun is stall vs stall. I'm not sure what the solution would be, because you can't ban stall outright, that would be stupid. Maybe have a requirement for a certain number of Pokémon with offensive stats? Or a certain number of offensive moves on a team. If you want competitive play to thrive, it needs to be fun to play and fun to watch, so limiting stall is in the interests of tournament organisers
to restrictive for new players and most teams may suffer as a resurt of this new rule besides stall.... THis may not even work as there are some stall pokemon who just hit hard to
@@darthhydreigon820 I know these are hardly perfect, but I feel like there should be something. There's a reason why double team teams are banned, and while it's easy to ban one move instead of a strategy, it shows that making changes in the interest of a good competitive scene are supported
@@goodguykonrad3701 double team is uncompetitive and generally forces bad countermeasures against it. Top ladder players do not want it to change and idt any of them would support it. You shouldnt remove a playstyle just cuz you dislike it cuz what about to the players that do? they are not gonna like it and ur just restricting a playstyle cuz u dislike it... its like how many people disagree about how people complain about legendary spammers
Banning stall when it isn't overpowered is stupid. Bans happen because something is broken and restrictive in the current meta. Rn stall isn't.
Good thing tournaments are meant to be tournaments. They dont care about your enjoyment. Players gonna play to win. Is this your first esport?
No hate on stall , you play what gives you a higher chance to win
But That's why I Only play National Dex with all its stupidly powerfull mega and z moves running arround.
mega rayquaza and 5 zacians go brrr
What song is playing at the beginning?
Really high level of play from India. The stall execution was immaculate.
what places go on to qualify?
Pls make a video on how to beat stall!
Heatran, zone + breaker, specs lele and good stuff, fsight + breaker
india kids at 3am
I understand you are invested in how this game went, but I hate to see stall win
India wins that what I care about
liked everything except for the stall part
Why are you not playing this year freezai?
he is. You can see his name listed in the SS OU#2 slot at the end of the video and he mentions his game is coming up soon
@@seanscott2677 oh sick, exciting
india has 3 draws?! OMG imagine how tedious it is to reach draw 3 times
thats actually game difference, like 3 wins - 0 losses = 3 game difference
i made the same mistake too when i first saw it
@@freezailive3842 not your fault mate, they should’ve shortened it to GD instead of just D
Going in with stall and saying "hf" is just pure evil.
why do none of hte kids ever use cb + future sight
Light Screen Pex
light screen pex has been surging on stall for this reason
This is really representative of why VGC isn't singles. I love your content but seeing stall being so successful is cringe as fuck
i bet people would have more fun tho... VGC is sometimes unbalanced asf with pokemon such as calyrex-s and zacian-c
@@darthhydreigon820 i'd rather lose in seconds that having to stand stall
@@memocvfl you still can in singles: forfeiting takes like two seconds max
@@firewall5189 the problem is that if You have a chance to win it will take long
@@memocvfl well gl being in a final mon scenario and being charmed or eerie impulsed tilll u just lose pp
You're indian? I didn't know
Was looking for to next battle in the World cup. Then I notice title of video and opted out. Stall is pretty broken cause the only counter is Hyper Offensive team and that can be beaten by Stall team too if they get a few predict rights. Often times being easy predicts like knowing when a Pokemon is a Sweeper type that counters the pokemon you currently have on screen so, you predict that and swap into their weakness. God I hate full stall team. Important having 1-2 stall mons on every team obviously but...a full team?! come on India...
Luckily the battle was short, watching stall also helps you understand how to break it and you can find many weaknesses in your team
Stall really isn’t overpowered, properly positioning your powerful wallbreakers and making some good predicts can break a stall team, just the 50 turns in the meantime may be pretty uneventful.
stall is not very good in this meta and relies on sometimes making heavy reads to get out of a sticky situation and it has no way of winning out of a losing scenario. HO is sure a bad MU for it ad many other teams usually can cause it problems...
And... full stall teams are fine tbh they are playing a tournament, their goal is to win... if they scouted their opponent and determined they are weak to stall why wouldnt they bring stall to win the world cup
as others have said, stall isn't even that good in the gen 8 meta. It has it's good matchups obviously, if you aren't prepped for it, but fitting stallbreakers on a team isn't really that tough
Ho don't particularly counter stall, they are more bo counters. Honestly, stall is often good against ho.
Best of luck in your match
Corviknight was a mistake
stall looks very op. I think more people should just run stall on the ladder :)
Tbh stall is op against the ladder. However, it's not that good in ss ou.
Playing stall effectively is the only way to win, playing stall means you are shooting for longer games = more chances to mess up
@@TrainerGoldAlt Stall is built on having the least opportunity to mess up. If for example the stall player makes 4 mistakes and the balance team makes 4 mistakes, the stall players mistakes can be fixed by using protect, heal bell, regenerator, recovery, etc. The balance teams mistakes usually result in 1 or 2 mons bein K.O.d
@トーン What's your point? The same can be said for any playstyle not just stall. What I'm saying is that stall has the biggest capacity for ignoring mistakes and making mistakes in stall can be fixed unlike for other playstyles which may not have recovery. Even EV spreads can be manipulated to minimize mistakes being punished. And no, stall teams only require like 4 mons to function. Its not like losing a piece in a puzzle. If you're implying that mistakes are an inevitability and that is the weakness of stall players, I can very much say that it would be worse for the non stall team if/when they make the same number of mistakes. Not to mention that if your opponent making a mistake is your only chance to win, that's very unhealthy for competitive play.
@@potatovine stall is usually the most punished for their mistakes... losing a ton of hp on corviknigth for ex.. opens you up to kartana and without any offense you can struggle to kill it or force it out. Stall teams require 6 mons to function and are basically screwed over the most if a mon dies.... lets go back to an example such as if you lose a lot of hp on blissey because you had to use it to beat moltres-g then what happens against lets say volcarona comes in then what? blissey is gone pretty much and yu cannot use it to beat volcarona therefore the team falls apart. Stall is very punished for even slipping up once idk what ur even talking about
can anybody share this team, looks too fun to use in OU
Is Freezai from India?
-an Indian viewer
Yes, in his earlier vids he plays for india in LC
He's Indian, but currently living in the US. Personally don't know if he's an NRI or a student/working there.
@@ritwikism Well I couldn't have known from his accent, I don't think any part of India naturally has that accent
Why is dark Urshifu banned but not water? I feel like water is better
He made a video about this
Basically, water Urshifu is countered by any rocky helmet users and Toxapex, Ferro, Slowbro and Tangrowth. with dark Urshifu only Buzzwole and bulky fairy types was safe to switch in, but there aren't that many bulky fairy types that can switch into poison jab/iron head, especially if you consider banded Urshifu
bringing stall in a tournament is like spitting on someone's grave
no it's not? stall is a viable playstyle, and any viable playstyle has full rights to being played in a competitive scene.
@@icymiles just because somthings viable doesn't mean it isn't disrespectful to your opponent. It's like spawn camping in COD, you can do it to get kills easier but everyone's going to hate you for it.
@@0Sire Every esport people play to win. You think pros dont use fox in melee or league pros dont use the best thing to win?
@@Takkunda your not wrong but they have fun doing it, nobody has fun using or playing against stall. For the opponent it's annoying and takes forever to fight and for the person using it they just make brainless plays for 40+ turns untill they suffocate their opponent's team. Melee is a very different game than pokemon where the viable characters can be counted on your hands. Pokémon in the otherhand is extremely versatile and allows for the player to make any pokemon work in some way if they put enough effort into it, as wells as the commonly thought of as viable pokemon in OU being about 40 allowing major eam diversity without even taking into account items, evs, or moves.
@@0Sire people still play control in mtg which is the equivalent of stall in pokemon. Control is SUPER popular. Always has been.
Saccing tornadus for nothing lol
Impressive game
Anyone who runs stall and starts the game with "hf" needs instaban. God I wish corrosion toxic was viable
eh its just curtosy tho... idk what is the need to be so worked up over it
@@darthhydreigon820 I don’t appreciate being lied to.
@@darthhydreigon820 Bro is defending no skill stall with his life 💀
@@username15th cringe.
Tell me you dont play high level esports
@@pyranitar what? why are you so butthurt over stall.. you sound like those people on the "LEGENDARY SPAMMER" videos that critize the way someone can play the game... let people enjoy what they want to play
Stall is cringe.
I know that using stall will definitely come back to India. Like it's so inconsistent. If they were to use balanced teams it would have been way better
They are 2-0 and still have more players with different playstyles in the back
well ofc if they use it to much they will become predictable... i doubt they will become that predictable and they are just using it to punish underprepping it for stall
I love stall
I don’t mean to be racist or anything *im paranoid from scrolling through too much twitter* but are you from India?
No he is from mars
Stall players zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzźzzz
We need to make fun of people using stall more. Absolutely pathetic playstyle
Just bad teams
As someone who hates stall but is from India, this was fun to watch 🙂🙂
Playing stall is the safest way to win, just what one will want to secure in wc
Stall is the opposite of safe, it's a volatile matchup dependent strat that either destroys or gets destroyed
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