ROLAND JC-40 AMP VS. JC-22 VS. BOSS KATANA | Ultimate Amp Comparison

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  • @pedalpartners
    @pedalpartners  3 года назад +1

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  • @laydownmisere3674
    @laydownmisere3674 3 года назад +35

    JC-40 is the JC "sweet spot" over all the models released over the years.

    • @pedalpartners
      @pedalpartners  3 года назад +2

      yes. confirmed.

    • @TheAlbiCollier
      @TheAlbiCollier 3 года назад

      Seems like it'd be way too quiet

    • @laydownmisere3674
      @laydownmisere3674 3 года назад +2

      @@TheAlbiCollier It is certainly loud enough in a studio or rehearsal setting, I cannot vouch for it in a live gig setting.

  • @orbitron20
    @orbitron20 3 года назад +14

    Great video as always! Having used the katana for several rehersals I was really surprised with how good the clean tone was, the ability to change the wattage also seemed very useful for home practice. I'm currently thinking of saving for a vox, as I personally love the jangly tone. Keep up the great work, the distortion tones were killer as always!

    • @pedalpartners
      @pedalpartners  3 года назад +2

      the clean on the Katana is just AMAZING!!! vox amps are pretty sweet, i used to have the ac-15vr (which was i think used in my first one or two videos on here!)

    • @Jason-andTheArgonauts
      @Jason-andTheArgonauts 8 месяцев назад

      I heard a guy playing the JC and the Vox simultaneously. It sounded amazing. I wonder how the combo of characters would sound on a Katana.

  • @TheoAndHisPedals
    @TheoAndHisPedals 3 года назад +11

    Thanks for doing this, I was curious about the difference between the two JCs, I'm really tempted by the smaller one.

    • @pedalpartners
      @pedalpartners  3 года назад +2

      thanks for watching man! the jc-22 is perfect for that AMAZING jazz chorus sound in a small format

  • @spookyverb
    @spookyverb Год назад +2

    I love my JC40 and thrash/doom the crap out of it using the nastiest fuzz and distortions on the planet. It delivers for my needs.

  • @themomentkiller9167
    @themomentkiller9167 3 года назад +11

    There’s just something about the JC40. Recently I plugged my acoustic 12 string into it and it sounded awesome. There is nothing that this amp can’t do

    • @pedalpartners
      @pedalpartners  3 года назад +1

      ah that sounds awesome, gotta get me a 12 string ;)

    • @squirelova1815
      @squirelova1815 Год назад

      It may really be the "ultimate" amp even if just for its wide utility and reliability but it could also be just that for it's Superb sound too, and that is what I always hear: the "ultimate" guitar tone coming from the JC platform.

  • @maartenstevens9848
    @maartenstevens9848 Год назад +8

    Nice comparison; 3 lovely amps . I Just bought the JC-22 for room experiments. It's great. The mixing of the chorus in the air is magic. The bright knob is perfect. The JC-40 sounds really amazing in this vid, what a sound ! What an amp !

    • @pedalpartners
      @pedalpartners  Год назад +1

      still loving them! jazz chorus is THE ONE for me

    • @davidtorreetxebarria
      @davidtorreetxebarria 26 дней назад

      How about 6.5-inch speakers? Are they solvent or better to go for the JC 40 at low volume?

  • @angusorvid8840
    @angusorvid8840 2 года назад +5

    I dig both amps. For all out high gain you can't beat the Katana, but I think the JC with a good fuzz box is more than adequate for most players. It's also hard to beat the quality of the built-in chorus in the JC, which was the first amp to offer this feature decades ago. For recording in the studio a JC is a very controllable amp and I'd even use it for metal. It can do everything with the right pedals. As a pedal platform I prefer it to any Fender or Marshall.

    • @pedalpartners
      @pedalpartners  2 года назад +2

      good pointers! the clean on the katana is really punching above its weight, but then again nothing can beat the jazz chorus line for me! no other amp has such an iconic effect built-in imo!

    • @angusorvid8840
      @angusorvid8840 2 года назад +1

      @@pedalpartners The Katana is a solid amp. It has a very good clean channel for such a high gain amp, but that's easier to achieve with solid state because of the nature of how tube distortion cascades from one channel into the next. This is why Mesa Boogies were so unique when first produced in the 70s. They had three gain stages, including the clean, that ratcheted up the gain. Solid state amps, if designed right, can do this and retain a perfect clean channel.

  • @squirelova1815
    @squirelova1815 Год назад +1

    I'm beginning to realize, as it has finally sunk in, what a Phenomenal device the JC's truly are to this day and that only a real physically present JC in the room can totally pull of THAT Ethereal 80's-esque Majesty for the ear to enjoy fully. Maybe a great modeler plus a decent 2x cab or fairly good monitors can suffice for listening for recording purposes but I think you'll probably need the whole JC kit with Roland's speakers and astoundingly simple but Genius speaker activity to have the real deal JC experience. To think that this was done back in 1975 is very impressive but then again it was Roland that did it!

    • @pedalpartners
      @pedalpartners  Год назад +1

      my favourite amp to this day. there's so much i love about it! it would be quicker to list the things i don't like about it:

  • @kagenotatsumaki
    @kagenotatsumaki Год назад +6

    DAMN. I was thinking "Hmm, the Katana's distortion is too thick, but the JC 40's a little too thin, if only we could get like a perfect in between." and then BOOM. JC 40 with the Spires pedal was no joke THE EXACT sound I imagined!
    I really need a JC 40 and Spires pedal now... XD

    • @pedalpartners
      @pedalpartners  Год назад +1

      awesome! thanks for watching :) we just put out a new fuzz pedal you might like ruclips.net/video/A0GLCEhU9Ys/видео.html

  • @avgmaster1
    @avgmaster1 3 года назад +2

    Sounds so sweet. You Are a Shoegazer!!! It's just so fun to play and write these type of tunes. Awesome ! !

  • @useless987
    @useless987 3 года назад +5

    I've got to say I am surprised by how nice the katana is, it wins the distortion pedal comparison imo. Everything else I prefer the JC-40, it just has that warmth and extra harmonics.
    An amazing feature of the jc-22 is the line output to record directly in daw. I imagine for the purpose of this video you would've all mic'd them with the same mic. But I bet it just sounds nicer in a recording with the line output, cause of course the 6" cones are gonna make it sound thin compared to the others. Right?

  • @jblaze4583
    @jblaze4583 3 года назад +3

    I've played with the Katana, and it seems to take distortion pedals better then most SS amps. Even in this vid, you can hear the difference. But I have not tried the JC-40 yet.

  • @arlobrubaker
    @arlobrubaker Год назад

    I have a Roland SB 100 from 1979 and a Roland GA from 1986.
    I prefer mono amps without built-in effects, but the JC-22 is the closest thing to a tiny amp version of what I'm using. I realize that effects are optional, but I like the EQ panels on my amps. I can do mono with a JC-22. The "extra features" and twin speakers wouldn't bother me, but the SB and GA resemble each other and I like them better because of my preferences.
    It's worth getting, but I wonder why they never reissue GA amps or SBs.

  • @smtcharlie
    @smtcharlie 3 года назад +3

    I vote for the JC 40. With Boss pedals. I’m old school. (and I used to have a JC 90 where I played it clean- but one band would have “heavy metal time” after our practices ... the JC 90 can CHUG with on-board distortion!)

    • @pedalpartners
      @pedalpartners  3 года назад

      haha heavy metal time LOVE IT!

    • @orchidmalevolence9726
      @orchidmalevolence9726 3 года назад

      Agreed. I can't compensate the clean tone from the amp I'd raher have an amp with good clean tone and then a distortion pedal

  • @talkychris
    @talkychris 2 года назад +4

    As someone who owns a couple of nice valve amps I'd definitely opt for the Roland JC-22 as a clean amp for home use over the Katana.
    If you're only going to have one amp at home or the studio then the flexibility of the Katana is a winner.

  • @Esignam32713
    @Esignam32713 3 года назад +4

    Love my jc 40, my pedals can literally get me any sound I want

    • @pedalpartners
      @pedalpartners  3 года назад

      that's the way to do it!

    • @xsamitt
      @xsamitt 3 года назад

      @@pedalpartners money for nothing and your chicks for free!!!

  • @adamsfamilyadventures2495
    @adamsfamilyadventures2495 2 года назад

    Seeking thoughts on Roland JC 40 vs two Boss Katana 100 with stereo expand feature enabled. I am intrigued by the JC40 and have been researching greatly in the last year. I like the fact that it has a very neutral platform allowing a guitar's true colors to transmit before any amp effects doctor the tonal shaping. My question is multi-part. My set up would either be 1) guitar input split by ABY box, one going into mono input of Boss ME-80, the other going to input of Boss Katana 50, the ME80 out would go one output to new JC40 and the other to a Fender Ultra Chorus 2x12 stereo chorus. Thus making Katana 50 a dry center channel and the JC40 and Ultra making a left and right stereo from the ME80. I am keeping the Ultra so option 2) make Ultra the center via mono out from ME80 (Ultra does not have stereo input but is stereo chorus with stereo effects loop) and use two Katana 100's with stereo expand as the left and right to simulate a JC40 clean chorus effect. Would either of these be the better usage of the ME80? Is using the ME80 on the input side rather than through effects loop hindering any tonal possibilities? Basically trying to get a spacial room filling aspect with a center, left, and right and will either keep the Katana 50 and the Ultra and add a JC40 or get rid of the Katana 50 and replace with 2 Katana 100's and keep the Ultra. The Ultra is older, has a few quirks, is super loud, and simply is not a JC40 so do not want to use as the primary. It will work great to supplement a stereo setup but looking for a new condition, fresh sound and quality as the main sound source. Any input would be appreciated. Thanks.

    • @pedalpartners
      @pedalpartners  2 года назад

      hey! we tend to tackle in depth gear advice on patreon.com/pedalpartners. feel free to head over there if you like :)

  • @ultravassal913
    @ultravassal913 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for this. Would you say the stereo of the JC 20 is worth it over the bigger speaker diameter of the Katana? Torn between which to get and I can’t try them out due to covid. Great work btw!

    • @pedalpartners
      @pedalpartners  2 года назад +1

      stereo is an essential part of my sound, but the katana is great if you want onboard effects. see this video for our in depth listen of the katana ruclips.net/video/VZphkKEsie4/видео.html & this one for the jc-22 ruclips.net/video/BEU9GUbZwt0/видео.html

    • @ultravassal913
      @ultravassal913 2 года назад

      @@pedalpartners thanks!

  • @folkandyeyo6570
    @folkandyeyo6570 2 года назад +2

    ok this almost happen today, First. i love your channel because i'ts one of the only channels here in youtube that works for people who i'ts not in to the "classic rock sound" and u can see thousand of videos of the same amp but its almost (no offence to the rock comunity) long hair man in to a heavy metal, hard rock solos and im totally not in to that tone.
    FINALLY my question: my most basic gear i'ts jazzmaster squier vintage modified ,t2 tc electronics reberv, (and thanks 2 u by the way) :) now, a blues driver. i work the summer thinking in an awesome amp RJC120 sounds like the obvious option but i cant afford it right now SO i was thinking in boss katana BUT 50 w just for create textures alone in my room and maybe recording something eventually with a couple of more pedals. i found a katana mk1 50 pretty cheap and NEW and i was like awesome, but now i think maybe for shoegaze maybe could work even better the mk2 50 because in vids sounds (for my naive ear) little more clean and bright and i was thinking go for it today. but now im pretty sure that i want to wait for everybody opinion in this channel and maybe reddit
    so thanks for everybody who takes the time to read this and maybe answer me one day in 10 years or less

    • @pedalpartners
      @pedalpartners  2 года назад +1

      thank you for the love. i haven't tried out the mark 1 but if it's cheaper definitely go for that! the katana amps are great for shoegaze & pedals, very nice clean tones too (like a clean canvas for you to paint over with shoegaze noise). have fun out there! let me know how you get on :)

  • @barnaclestval
    @barnaclestval 3 года назад +2

    I have the JC 22 & primarily use it now for short practice sessions. My main amp is the new Fender Princeton Handwired. What I don't like about the 22 is when I push dirt or fuzz pedals through it. They sound flat & tinny. What kind of settings do u use on yr 22? Do u use the effects loop? Thank's

    • @jkf9167
      @jkf9167 3 года назад

      You can also use an amp-in-a-box pedal to make the front end more forgiving. I use a Tronographic Boxidizer in front of my JC40, but any one of a zillion low-gain overdrives will do. I've even used a Tube Screamer in a pinch. That absorbs some of the dynamics from effects. Or you can just go 80s style and enjoy the gnar. Also, a Rat is an easy distortion to use with a JC amp, because it's compressed and you can filter out the high end if it bites too much.

  • @0826man
    @0826man 3 года назад +3

    Awesome video! I own a katana now and my next amp will be a jc

    • @pedalpartners
      @pedalpartners  3 года назад

      two awesome platforms!

    • @jello-tarzan
      @jello-tarzan 3 года назад

      Consider a second katana, with 100w mk2, you can run them in stereo with fx also in stereo. Personaly I'm torn cuz I also like the jc.

    • @jello-tarzan
      @jello-tarzan 3 года назад

      Same here!

  • @MrCornelius91
    @MrCornelius91 3 года назад +1

    Thank you for these very useful and great (from an esthetic point of view) demos. I really like this amp and I am looking forward to buy something to record with great sound my post-punk and synthwave ideas. On the other hand I am also into other genres so I am not sure that I want to spend this amount of money in order to make a fraction of what I have in mind.

  • @efrazable
    @efrazable 3 года назад +1

    as someone with just a jc 22, thanks 😘

    • @pedalpartners
      @pedalpartners  3 года назад +2

      thanks for watching! the jc-22 is an absolute gem :)

    • @davidgood6744
      @davidgood6744 3 года назад

      Just a JC22! Count your blessings.

  • @m.g4624
    @m.g4624 3 года назад +1

    I was thinking of trading in my Vox Ac30 for a Jc-40. Opinions? Thoughts? Help! 😅

    • @useless987
      @useless987 3 года назад +4

      Keep it and save for a jc40, so you have two different flavours

    • @Psztyk236
      @Psztyk236 3 года назад

      @@useless987 Always the best solution

  • @peteytwofinger
    @peteytwofinger 3 года назад

    got a jc50 at goodwill for 6.99 . it was pretty tore up but , i re-capped it and everything is fine except the chorus , which am guessing its the bbd chip . i didnt feel like buying one on ebay . i have a jc120 i purchased in 94 , the chorus is fine on that . i love the 50 . the speaker died about a week in and i replaced it , but it still has the jc thing in spades . they are my favorite amps . adrian belew used to use them and his tone has never been even close to what it was when he stopped using them . same with rob fetters . he had a custom tube amp made from an audio guru . belew used johnson digitals then he switched to powered monitors and modelling . i am pretty firm on the fact the missing link there is the 120 . they are super fucking heavy though . back breaker 2 man job amps . i put casters on the 50 .

    • @pedalpartners
      @pedalpartners  3 года назад

      they're absolute classics, thank you for watching :)

  • @brozio77
    @brozio77 5 месяцев назад

    can i aks you if the jc 22 could be good miced for doom and metal sounds? is the only one that my budget can buy beetween 22 and 40 and for my needs as the only guitar player in my bands i really need stereo setup. but i'm worried about little 6,5 speaker and they sound with distortion.

    • @lucaspintooc
      @lucaspintooc Месяц назад

      they do sound good, but maybe too thin in a band context

  • @MagicPants647
    @MagicPants647 3 года назад +2

    do you prefer solid state amps over tube?

    • @brettpanzer
      @brettpanzer 3 года назад +2

      i personally sold all my tube amps and am now down to a JC40, ISP theta, a quilter tone block 201 and a sunn 2x15 cabinet. i like tube amps - sunn model t, various orange, fender, matamp, etc are incredible. but my ears decided solid state over tube.

  • @ninjatanek8516
    @ninjatanek8516 Год назад

    Do you know if the jc40 would take a tube distortion well. I'm looking at that amp and a blackstar dual distortion. It has a tube in it

    • @pedalpartners
      @pedalpartners  Год назад

      all our vids are recorded with a jc, we've tried all kinds of distortions so have a scroll on our page to get an idea! thanks :)

  • @ronj9448
    @ronj9448 2 года назад +2

    Looking for the JC-22 vs JC-40 ideas. I like the idea of the smaller one for home and ensemble practice but getting out there on the club stage I'd need the 40. But then I'd wind up owning both and they're priced very closely. Ugh.

    • @pedalpartners
      @pedalpartners  2 года назад +1

      the jc-22 is actually capable of live playing. the 40 is very loud, the 22 only slightly less so. definitely great for smaller shows, especially if you mic up :)

    • @ronj9448
      @ronj9448 2 года назад

      @@pedalpartners Hi. The places I play at only mic the vocalists. So I have to bring my own muscle. I also play with some heavy-handed drummers which does not help my situation. Might need to buy the 40 and then use it as an end table. Thanks for reply!

  • @mic-ps1qt
    @mic-ps1qt 3 года назад

    needed this i cant decide

    • @pedalpartners
      @pedalpartners  3 года назад

      hope this helped! thanks for watching :)

  • @tea-stomach-cycle6385
    @tea-stomach-cycle6385 3 года назад +2

    Love your content!

    • @pedalpartners
      @pedalpartners  3 года назад

      thank you so much, we really appreciate the support!

  • @dirkvandermeyden395
    @dirkvandermeyden395 Год назад

    Great Video!

  • @KevPez-IS
    @KevPez-IS Год назад

    I love the options of the katana and getting good tones out of the box, but man they JC40…I had one years ago but sold it when unemployed…Idk

    • @pedalpartners
      @pedalpartners  Год назад

      the katana has a great clean tone, me being me i'd always pick the 40 but the katana is a solid option

  • @mustang9902
    @mustang9902 3 года назад +2

    In my opinion, the Roland JC-40 is the best.

    • @pedalpartners
      @pedalpartners  3 года назад +1

      love them all for different reasons! thanks for watching :)

  • @killnoni5032
    @killnoni5032 3 года назад +1

    Where to get patches?? Great comparison btw!

    • @drugtaker3283
      @drugtaker3283 3 года назад

      you can solder them yourself

    • @killnoni5032
      @killnoni5032 3 года назад

      @@drugtaker3283 you don’t say? Lol! I want to get some nice shoegaze patches but don’t know where to find them. I’m terrible at making them myself.

  • @pablosantander5739
    @pablosantander5739 3 года назад +1

    Wonderfull.
    Thanks

  • @davidellis5141
    @davidellis5141 3 года назад +3

    For me the JC-40 was the one for the best aural pleasure.

  • @whatsabryan
    @whatsabryan 3 года назад +4

    How do you deal with the hiss from the JC amps?

    • @studieslessonstheoryetc141
      @studieslessonstheoryetc141 3 года назад

      Totally fine in a live context, studio just gate it. For bedroom playing, accept it haha

    • @whatsabryan
      @whatsabryan 3 года назад

      @@studieslessonstheoryetc141 how do you gate it?

    • @whatsabryan
      @whatsabryan 3 года назад

      @Luke You are so right. While playing I don’t notice it at all. But I really want to record with it which is where the problem starts....

    • @studieslessonstheoryetc141
      @studieslessonstheoryetc141 3 года назад

      @@whatsabryan what are you recording into? A DAW or?

    • @whatsabryan
      @whatsabryan 3 года назад

      @@studieslessonstheoryetc141 I would just be using garageband through my phone

  • @VertigineBianca
    @VertigineBianca 2 года назад

    Katana is what it is, very convenient and a jack of many trades but master of none. On the other hand the jcs offer an excellent clean that pairs with a great pedal platform. Still prefer clean tubes but the convenience of the Roland jc is unquestionable.

    • @cliffirddelbridge2810
      @cliffirddelbridge2810 2 года назад

      I think the Katana is a stellar amp. And the master of tone is connected to your fingers.

  • @rajamcraja
    @rajamcraja 3 года назад

    what microphone did you use to record em? those cleans are as clean as it gets, loved it

    • @pedalpartners
      @pedalpartners  3 года назад

      see patreon.com/pedalpartners for my intro to recording & check out my recording video here ruclips.net/video/U9q43c6CykY/видео.html thank you :)

  • @TheNotoriousYJX
    @TheNotoriousYJX 3 года назад +1

    I keep trying to tell the tube heads that the JC-40 takes pedals like a champ and they never listen.

  • @slurpeexyza17
    @slurpeexyza17 3 года назад

    Katana CLeans are modelled after JC right?

  • @pytheus
    @pytheus 2 года назад

    Inconclusive -- they all sound decent

  • @tomjoad8939
    @tomjoad8939 7 месяцев назад

    I think I still have time to return my jc-40 and get the katana and save 400 bucks!

  • @craigthomson3621
    @craigthomson3621 3 года назад

    I just sold my lefty Fender Kurt Cobain Jaguar, and I am regretting having done so already.

    • @pedalpartners
      @pedalpartners  3 года назад +1

      ah no, i'll never part with mine!

    • @craigthomson3621
      @craigthomson3621 3 года назад

      @@pedalpartners Great news, I got my Kurt Cobain Jaguar back at the same price I sold it for. I may put in a partial coil split circuit, with the switch located in the spare space by the three way toggle.

  • @AGuitarNinja
    @AGuitarNinja 2 года назад

    I literally just ordered the 22 did I make a huge mistake not just spending the extra hundred bucks for the 40 😭

    • @pedalpartners
      @pedalpartners  2 года назад

      the 22 is awesome, especially if you live in an apartment or don't want to carry around a huge amp!

  • @BigBrainZane
    @BigBrainZane 3 года назад

    is that tape on the trem arm? i hope its okay :'(

    • @tea-stomach-cycle6385
      @tea-stomach-cycle6385 3 года назад +3

      It's a technique done by kevin shields to get a looser vibrato to make glide guitar easier. Try it sometime!

    • @pedalpartners
      @pedalpartners  3 года назад +1

      thanks for the concern Zane, can confirm the guitar is all well! have an awesome 2021 :)

    • @BigBrainZane
      @BigBrainZane 3 года назад

      @@tea-stomach-cycle6385 that sounds cool! Il check out out. Glad the guitar is healthy new years and cheers dudes

  • @brettpanzer
    @brettpanzer 3 года назад

    jc40 cult