Trick Series - Cornering with Mr Steele
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- Опубликовано: 16 окт 2024
- While out learning tricks in the park, Ben had a question. How do you turn your kwad without letting it drift? Steele's got some answers for you.
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Pilots / Hosts
Steele Davis [Mr Steele]
Carlos Puertolas [Charpu]
Tommy Tibajia [UmmaGawd]
Ben the Padawan
Production Team
Chad Kapper - Executive Producer
Tommy Tibajia - Producer
Christian Kapper - Camera / Editor
From a tuning perspective, if a copter feels "slidey" in turns, the first thing I do is raise yaw P gain. Maybe roll P gain too depending on how much uptilt the camera has, but mostly yaw usually. The symptom to me that is a dead giveaway that I need to raise yaw P is when it feels like I keep wanting to push the copter into the turn, like I need to roll and pitch more and raise throttle to sort of PUSH it into the turn. The copter feels like it is not GOING where it is POINTED. So I roll and yaw to point towards the line I want to take, but instead of taking that line, the copter feels like it is kind of keeping going the direction it was going. That all screams "raise yaw P gain" to me.
Just put together my first kiss setup, and during my maiden I saw the symptoms that you describe here... I am going to try your Yaw P advice. Are there any particular observations you could make given that it is a Kiss FC/ESC setup? Not sure if it makes a difference....
Thank you @Joshua Bardwell +Joshua Bardwell
Nothing specific to KISS. In general, I think playing with P gains is something every pilot should try. You're unlikely to break anything and it will really give you a sense of how P affects flight feel. Take your default pitch and roll P gains and add 25%. Then add another 25% so they're 2x what they were. Fly a couple packs in between each one and notice what changes. Now put them back to defaults and double yaw P. Now double all of them from defaults. Etc.
Cool man. I understand there is a relation between P adjustments and motor temperature that I should be looking out for, is that true?
Its taken me a year to realise this, but yes absolutely. If you find its difficult to aim your quad for small gaps or even between goal posts - it could be low yaw.
If you do split-S & the quad always pitches out of it at 90º (instead of 180), its low yaw.
what happened (visually) if I add too much yaw P?
I wish these were longer...this is a great format for newbs that have the same questions but know no one else that flies.
I was having this problem and out of all the videos I watched this one dove STRAIGHT into the solution right away. Tried it in the simulator and it worked. If it wasn't 60 mph winds outside I would try for real, but in the real world I don't have the problem so bad. But now I know!
Same here. Not a single video discussed this drifting issue and describing the “on rails” feel, captured my exact words and problem. Solution is so obvious in hindsight!
More videos like this! I like your Trick series. Short, straight to the point.
I seriously LOLed at the part 5:03 "wait, come back!"
Get Ben on the Rotor Riot team! He can be the noobie, so in every episode he's in, you can teach him a trick or two, because this kind of videos are very entertaining :)
Anyway good video as always.
The “sounds” of how he needs to fly described by Steele at 4:00 is amazing. Hahahaa.
Just... Thank you. Coming from years of flying (NOT crashing!) pricey LOS photo quads, making the switch to FPV racing/ FS has been a challenge at best. Your Trick Series makes it easier, faster and alot more fun to make the transition. Cheers to the crashes as well! Its good to know that its almost normal for us noobs to need a separate backpack full of props and parts per day of flying. Ive gotten it down to a shoebox-ful per day thanks to you guys. Keep it up, much appreciated!
Another great video. Really enjoying the trick series.
can we get more vocal impersonation of quads from now on please
WIIIII
This series helps so so much! Im not a beginner but after watching these, it helps me to realize the right way to do tricks because most of the tricks I know are self taught and i might not be doing them the right way.
Hey Crew!!! Greetins from Barcelona! You do an amazing job, please keep on doing this trick / learning series!! Cheers to u all guys! hope u come over some time!
SUPER helpful - on the cornering, but also the info on prop pros & cons. Best part of the video though... was the sound effects the student & teacher exchanged at the end of training. :-)
This is exactly the issue I've been having! Thanks for this video.
Thanks again Rotor Riot! This really helped me improve my flying in tight spaces!
nice appear everyone can talk in Charpu animate language now! great to see the differences with 5 and 6inch for cornering..
weeeeummmmm zoooom zoooom
That was the outro sound wasn't it? NAILED IT!
Nes jon omfg I need dat butter tho. Ms. Buttersworth
THANK YOU !! I have been trying to do learn tight cornering !!Keep up the good work!!
Bloody hell that "be more aggressive" tip was useful. I'm a complete noob and still have huge issues with cornering, but that sentence totally clicked and as soon as I started attacking those sticks more boldly the change in grip was incredible.
These series are such a good idea.
Great tips. Visually it feels like driving around turns, but without the ground friction is not. I think about it more like if you were running and juking around the tree, when you change direction you pivot, reposition center of gravity and kick off the new direction. When you try to kick off with the drone it will smooth over already because we're gliding on the air. Great tips. The audible difference of the bigger props was pretty astounding, they sounded so stealthy.
This is really helpfull. I really love the way you guys break down the ins and outs of this hobby. Great stuff. Keep posting the ins and outs, about (new) tricks, products; props, flghtcontollers, esc's, frames, motors camera's and so on. I love it. Keep in mind that I am learning so much about the way you guys fly and which product works the best to suit your way of flying,
keep this series going man!
Great video once again!
Awesome video and nice cornering skills Mr Steele
Mr. Steele you had my laughing the whole video, I love your flying style.
Tommy after all your videos with the butter quad I now am going to build one I fell in love with it.
Thank you all for these videos they are helping me learn at a faster rate than I would otherwise be able to trying to figure it out on my own.
RR Rules.
Props to Chad
glad it helps! You'll love the butter quad :)
ummagawd which motors are best for it? based on spec I was thinking of trying Mr. Steele's new brand but I think you use the lumenier. I currently use eMac red bottoms 2300kv.
you want lower KV (2000-2150) for 6in props. My current favorite is the zmx2206-2140kv
well the butter is ordered excited for the build.
I can't believe you guys don't have more subscribers. This is great quality content if your into quads.
here you go, a *piiiiiiing* all for you guys!
I really like your Trick Series !
i love the tricks series!
It sounds like I need to be more aggressive too! Thanks for the tips, love the trick series!
Great demonstration
It would be great if you guys could make a video like this but explaining PID's and what they do to your quad. like what making out roll rate higher would do to how our quad reacts to the pilot telling it to roll!! i love this series guys and cant wait for more awesome vids.
thumbs up for the haircut LOL I'm glad that you posted this even though it is somewhat intuitive I've been working on taking Corners tighter without losing speed and trying to find the quickest way around and gate where you have to make a 90 degree turn. instead of stopping and changing direction more or less is what i want to prevent aswell as drifting.. great vid makes me wana pull out some old 6 inch two blades now....
love the trick series!!!
This was just what I wanted to know. Thanks for the advice on making tight turns.
Great stuff!
this helps me a lot and improve my turning more accurate!
HAHAAA, that bit at the end, "Wait, come back!"
Being new to the quad thing. I've learned a lot from your guys videos. Please keep up the outstanding work and please keep doing these instructional videos.
One thing I'd like to see. Is one on Acro vs Stabilization/Horizon mode. What the expectations of each and how to break from using crutch modes. one of the videos you helped someone tune their quad. I believe it was Chad who might of made a comment that most of us don't have a properly flying quad to compare to. Planes are big here in CT. So not much for quads yet. Would love to get a club together, Not sure how to go about it though.
I been having the same problem but I'm ganna give it more thorttle on corners on my next flight. Thanks for the help.
Awesome job guys, all this stuff really helps! Always love the sound effects too lol
Deer rotor riot. This year I've been a good pilot. I have built some wings and a suicide drone. I even filmed it 4 u2be!!
That is why my biggest wish is that you build a drone with racerstar parts( which are really cheap) and U want you to call it rudolf
I will leave milk, cookies, hq props for steele and a spanish dicktionary for ummagawd.
cheers
Don't tell my parents or andyrc
*dear
@@benjicodis really? look up irony...
hella helpful thanks rioters
This series is awsome! it really helping alot
Need more videos like this
Love sound effects 👍😜
Thankyou!! Gonna go practice now. 👍😊
This was soo intersting!!!! Thank you so much it really helps a lot to share this tips!!!! Can’t wait to see more of this practice advice!!!! 🚀🚀🚀
Wicked good video!
Thank you for doing this video. I was going to ask about this too.
El Verde FPV Sticker!!!!yeahhh
You mentioned your 6inch quad a few times now, amazingly quiet. My 6 inch quad is very quiet too, I use it for dive-bombing buildings and such now. I would LOVE a video discussing the many differences between 5 inch and 6 inch props, including what you all know about the physics and stuff. So it wasn't my imagination when I found my 6 inch triblade quad handling better at lower speeds than my 5 inch? :)
Sadistic Leprechaun check out Mr.Steele he did a video on his personal channel just recently discussing just that :)
pug2o5 yeah I saw that one on props but I don't remember six inch props being mentioned, I'll check it out again
Sadistic Leprechaun oh. maybe they weren't. I know the difference between 2 and 3 bladed was discussed :)
Master line of sight, then FPV.
Keep em coming! Can you teach us to dive? LOL you can show us with a talk tree or something
This just makes me wanna buy the "butter" quad that much more..... Hurry up and restock!! lol
I would love to see you guys do a vid on dropping in. Sliding down buildings or square truss/gate drops and dealing with camera tilt.
Glad to see I am not the only one who has crazy people walk up to him in public parks when flying.
The animator language is definitely in my blood too :D
Thank you so much for that it helped a lot.
Moving from my Mobula8 HD (with prop guards) which I'm getting pretty confident with to my new Crux35, I'll definitely try to take these advices to heart. I'm sliding on turns. I'd already figured out the throttle to power through it. I just need to control it all better. I'll get there and have a blast doing so.
It is amazing how the Mobula8 feels so damn locked in on the turns. I blame the ducts and drag, and maybe a tad on the great factory PID tune. I honestly can really rail a corner on my Mobula8 without even trying. And now that I think about it, not so easily on my 4s 4" toothpick.
@@mjodr yeah, I'm sure the drag from the ducts continues. It does turn really nicely. I love my little Mob8.
THANK #@$k I found this,,, I was getting really frustrated with myself. soo many videos on turning.. soo many hours... then... your video... OH.. thats what im doing wrong. LOVE YOUR WORK!
would like to see more of this new butter quad
Good tips thanks!!
Awesome!
great directions
nice tips. thank you.
Is that the LaForge V2 on Mr Steele`s googles?
The doors seem to fit really well.
any chance of getting a hint as to where i can get the same doors?
Nice vid, working with someone and passing on some skills works and like how you have a camera on the RC .
What are the components running on the 6inch silent quad? Really nice sound!!
Steele would make for an awesome grip man.
More trick series please
I love the alligator clap mr Steele
i miss these
Has Mr. Steele ever spoken a full sentence without tweaking his little mustache ? hahaha Cool video guys ! :)
which antennas do you guys prefer to use when your doing tricks and stuff around buildings and other things that can block the signal.
you should do a video on the basic pros and cons of 5 vs 6 inch props. I know a lot of people who are struggling to decide
As a novice, I appreciate the advice.
FIFTH!!!!!! it's the new first. another great video!!!!
Thanks for the dope vid guys!!!! Im still learning and I wanna fly like Mr. Steele but I can't grow a stash so....🤔
Great videos!!!!! Btw what do you think about the eachine wizard x220 for a starter kit!! Would be first time flying quads!!!
I’ve been flying for a week now in liftoff and throttle control is by far the hardest thing for me
Nice video, you get a BIIIING from me!
I see that everybody is using V3' accept Steelpool hes on with HD goggles but what im really interested in is what cams do you all use and is there a one Cam to rule them all or is it cam to goggle fit?? 😲
OK, I'm getting ready to switch to Air mode and this will help a lot, thanks RR ;-) P.S. RR stands for Rotor Riot Rippin' Rings 'Round Rolls Royce!
4:00 Steele used his vocal talent there lol
I have a question that when I ask it, I never get the same answer.
It’s regarding a 3” 1404 3800kv GepRC Cinerun without the prop guards and with a set of iFlight Camos installed . Just so you know this issue was there before and remained after the stock motor change out.
Simple, what most people would call prop wash (I think). This happens when you fly straight at a medium speed cruise and gently yaw in 180 while descending and then fly back the other direction now 5m lower. During the yaw or if I lower my throttle and descend while in a hover I get the bobbles and wobbles like I was in rough seas on a cork lol .
My question is ..can you tune this out
What are the differences between the Butter Kwad and the standard Alien 5"? I'm stuck between the two and not sure which one to get.
Mr Steele is like the Deadpool of the miniquad world a Ryan reynolds type humour and i love it superb young person you !! :) and totally Badass :)
steelePool
Lol thats perfect Tommy :)
I always thought of him as the chad muska (skater) of fpv. Goofy dude that has mad haters and mad skill.
Hi Mr. Steele. Greetings from the Philippines. Can I ask how you eliminate the jello on your session cam while flying?
Thanks for the tip, guys...
Hi Rotor Riot.
Question how do you keep the quad on the air / level when speeding so you don't hit the ground?
So Keep power on!
On a qwad steering and thrust is almost everything that matters. So, if u drift, its mostly your thrust is just wrong. Just give thrust und adjust the angle und everthing is fine.
weee more trick series
More WEEEEEEEHHHHHHHH!!!!!
wow, i want a butter quad now! :D
Have you ever tried to fly in formation with your friends, similar to an air show?
I want to know more about that 6"!
do more of this :)
Tommy butter quad build video next!!!
Don't be afraid of the throttle ;)
THAAAANKK YOUUU
So what if you can't get a 6inch on your quad? would 4 blades prop help?
depends on what you're after... i'm assuming you want more low end pop... if so then yes.... but only assuming that your motor has enough torque to spin up a 4-blade 5in prop