We have had two major updates in the Netherlands for the bz4x, far better charging, far more efficient EV motor, real world range of 450km, tested by car journalists and many other issues sold. Given the very small battery pack compared to the competition, good! The Bz4x has now ev motor almost as efficient as the Tesla Y and more efficient than Audi q4 etron and VW Id4..... . The bz4x was tested against the id4 and q4 etron by leading dutch car journalists...the bz4x was the better car and Ev...... . Little bit silly all the bashing of Toyota on internet, it is nonsense, at least in Europe.
@@BobPellerinwhile my comment is for the solterra that I drove as a loaner car, my experience is very similar to yours. It was absolutely fantastic to drive in clear weather without the A/C on and the displayed range was 288 miles, however it dropped right away to 222 miles after I switched the a/c on briefly to test the range. I also drove it in December north eastern US when it was cold but not brutally so, and the range was 210 miles with the defroster on. Of course solterra is AWD so it will be similar to the BZ4X AWD if not the same, and I'm curious to see if Subaru releases the same updates. Will ask the dealer since it's a loaner car but very interested in knowing if the updates fix the range issues
So happy to hear that bZ4X has good reviews in Netherlands. I live in Ireland and collecting my bZ4X on Wednesday At the moment owning RAV4 hybrid.. really nice car
Hy, if it has so many defects I don’t understand why you bought it? It would be interesting a test drive with a range test too. Regards. I am from Europe and I am very satisfied with my FWD BZ4X.
I bought it without trying it first like so many during the lockdowns. I like it overall. The distances here are too great to make it a perfect car. My cheap Honda Accord gets 1000km range to compare. I have been known to do 600km in a day, so it’s stressful at times. I don’t always have the luxury of time to recharge in between stops. At -30c it sucks (
@@BobPellerin I had a RAV4 FWD PHEV, great car for range tranquility mountain ride. But in gasoline with the associated price two high at least here in Europe. For local ride (30 kms /day) the 18 KW battery was good for 3 days then need to charge it often. With BZ4 I charge once a week without let down below 20%. So if I need make 300kms well I make a fast charge until 80% and that is it. Of course we here, don’t have extreme low temp witch can be an issue but sure not for BZ4 only but too all BEV. Only for end this, my BZ4 comes with battery software update. And even received one OTA update for multimedia system in my home. You will love it I am sure. All the best, see you next posts.
You are incorrect about not having a mute button. Push and hold the mode button and it will pause or mute the radio. I had mine for a month now. Overall i really like the car. The update definitely helped with range and charge. The only cons I have are the glove compartment and volum knob. My other vehicle is a Jeep Rubicon and i prefer to drive the BZ over it.
Most cars (and most EVs will lose a lot of range in cold weather. My Tesla M3 allows me to preheat the car and battery before driving, and that really helps preserve cold weather range. Apparently Toyota has released a software upgrade that will improve range prediction, and increase the charging efficiency during long distance driving. IIRC, it will also release a bit more battery buffer to the driver.
In Europe we have had 2 major software updates. 450km real range as tested in the Netherlands, better recharging than the Id4 and etron. And many other, display, issues solved. The car journalists considered the new Bz4x with the updates even a good Bev because of the small battery pack, good range and 10 years warranty.... . He said, the Tesla Y is still the better EV but not the better build car, and far less warranty
There’s another RUclipsr in Canada called the EV Dude who started with a Prime and then bought a BZ4X. He pretty quickly decided he’d made a mistake and sold his Toyota and bought an Ioniq 5. The 5 seems like a really excellent EV and the specs on the BZ4X lead me to believe Toyota isn’t really serious about EV’s yet. I own a Prime and I know my next car will also be an EV, but it’s unlikely to be a Toyota. The Model Y has more than 50 % more horsepower and range and better charging speed and a much better charging network. It makes the BZ4X seem pretty mediocre as an EV. But on a subjective level it doesn’t really appeal to me and I much prefer the looks of the Ioniq 5. It also has a volume knob which would be a good thing for Toyota to correct. 😊 Thanks for your review, I think as an actual owner your opinion is important.
Comparing the BZ4X to the IONIQ 5 is fair game but to a Tesla model Y? The equivalent Model Y to my AWD BZ is $19k more expensive (including incentives) so not really applicable.
Tant que vous êtes conscient du problème du cablegate et que vous pouvez vivre avec ces problèmes futurs, le Prime est un excellent VUS. Je n'ai pas encore essayé ou évalué le Kona, mais le seul propriétaire que je connaisse l'adore.
This car was the worst mistake my wife made. Dealership fed us the crap that it gets 250 miles on a charge. But that is only if you stay under 65mph and dont have the A/C or heat on and do not drive on the highway. Our model takes 3 hours to go from 42% to 75% It took me and my family 11 hours to get from Dallas to Beaumont which is usually a 4.5 to 5 hour drive. Ill never buy another EV thanks to this thing.
Thanks for the feedback!! It boils down to how you use the car/SUV. In our case it is our 3rd vehicle, so the other two we use for long distance and this one for local trips. It gets charged at home 90% of the time, so no stress for charging or distance. I made a LOT of videos about winter to warn others of the effects on range. I really should do one when it finally gets hot enough for AC here.
Bonjour, je viens tout juste d'acheter une BZ4X LE, 😢. Ce qui m'inquiète est l'autonomie et le chauffage l'hiver? Quel est l'autonomie que vous avez mesuré à une température de -20 C avec le chauffage à 19 C? Merci.
You’re right on all points, especially the piano black surfaces. They scratch exceptionally easily. I’ve had my car for 4 months and the surfaces look 2 years old. Hoping the software upgrades fix the glaring issues this car has. Like you I enjoy my BZ but Toyota could be doing a much better job making sure owners are happy.
Je suis satisfait a 90% de la kona pour le quotidien mais pour les roadtrips c'est une autre chose !!! Et l'hiver c'est pas terrible !!! Comme la plupart des Ev !!!
If you’re on the fence about the bZ4X, I’d say go for it. It’s a stylish, efficient, and reliable electric car that makes driving fun while being eco-conscious.
Considering the hit I am taking on devaluation, I should make a new one about that aspect for sure. To be fair, I do enjoy the ride and the savings. So I’m keeping it for a while.
Bob. I have one and like it more everyday. It's fantastic to drive and I have learnt how EVs need to be managed different from petrol cars. And it's about one third the price to run!! Agree charging networks need improvement but that's a universal problem, not bz4x specific. Efficiency is as good as competitors, battery is a bit smaller and consequently range. I never open my glove box in my other cars so I don't miss it!
My car sounds like airplane and is giving me headaches my ear pops and Toyota is not coming back to me and this is a clear problem I never owned car I had to complain about the noise
@@BobPellerin because u are advertising this car .Every person sat in my car they feel it but Toyota is saying the car is fine .They won’t sale this very good because is not good for long drives in freeway.
@BobPellerin "Quiet and comfy" is a given with any EV. Well... the Kona might be a little harsh at bumps but still comfortable. The bad thing with Toyota is that they are relying on their past glory. Now they are offering the false promise of "reliability" but are instead selling lower quality and cheaply made vehicles with predefined life. They know when you're going to need service and how long their components will last. This "life" is getting shorter and shorter every year because their investors expect higher profits every quarter. A company that sells vehicles with a loss or a 1.6% margin... does not make money by doing goodwill for its customers. Furthermore, Toyota is spending billions lobbying against the EV transmission... just because they are stubbornly not ready for it.
You probably want to see my other videos on the SUV. I still own this and do enjoy the ride. The point was to make sure people knew what they were getting into with this EV.
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We have had two major updates in the Netherlands for the bz4x, far better charging, far more efficient EV motor, real world range of 450km, tested by car journalists and many other issues sold. Given the very small battery pack compared to the competition, good! The Bz4x has now ev motor almost as efficient as the Tesla Y and more efficient than Audi q4 etron and VW Id4..... .
The bz4x was tested against the id4 and q4 etron by leading dutch car journalists...the bz4x was the better car and Ev...... .
Little bit silly all the bashing of Toyota on internet, it is nonsense, at least in Europe.
It’s a great SUV when it’s not super cold. Thanks for the comment.
@@BobPellerin not one ev is good in cold weather....only Tesla
@@BobPellerinwhile my comment is for the solterra that I drove as a loaner car, my experience is very similar to yours. It was absolutely fantastic to drive in clear weather without the A/C on and the displayed range was 288 miles, however it dropped right away to 222 miles after I switched the a/c on briefly to test the range. I also drove it in December north eastern US when it was cold but not brutally so, and the range was 210 miles with the defroster on. Of course solterra is AWD so it will be similar to the BZ4X AWD if not the same, and I'm curious to see if Subaru releases the same updates. Will ask the dealer since it's a loaner car but very interested in knowing if the updates fix the range issues
So happy to hear that bZ4X has good reviews in Netherlands.
I live in Ireland and collecting my bZ4X on Wednesday
At the moment owning RAV4 hybrid.. really nice car
Hy, if it has so many defects I don’t understand why you bought it? It would be interesting a test drive with a range test too. Regards. I am from Europe and I am very satisfied with my FWD BZ4X.
I bought it without trying it first like so many during the lockdowns. I like it overall. The distances here are too great to make it a perfect car. My cheap Honda Accord gets 1000km range to compare. I have been known to do 600km in a day, so it’s stressful at times. I don’t always have the luxury of time to recharge in between stops. At -30c it sucks (
@@BobPellerin I had a RAV4 FWD PHEV, great car for range tranquility mountain ride. But in gasoline with the associated price two high at least here in Europe. For local ride (30 kms /day) the 18 KW battery was good for 3 days then need to charge it often. With BZ4 I charge once a week without let down below 20%. So if I need make 300kms well I make a fast charge until 80% and that is it. Of course we here, don’t have extreme low temp witch can be an issue but sure not for BZ4 only but too all BEV. Only for end this, my BZ4 comes with battery software update. And even received one OTA update for multimedia system in my home. You will love it I am sure. All the best, see you next posts.
You are incorrect about not having a mute button. Push and hold the mode button and it will pause or mute the radio.
I had mine for a month now. Overall i really like the car. The update definitely helped with range and charge.
The only cons I have are the glove compartment and volum knob.
My other vehicle is a Jeep Rubicon and i prefer to drive the BZ over it.
Thanks for the correction! I’m enjoying driving the BZ4X in the warm temps.
Most cars (and most EVs will lose a lot of range in cold weather. My Tesla M3 allows me to preheat the car and battery before driving, and that really helps preserve cold weather range. Apparently Toyota has released a software upgrade that will improve range prediction, and increase the charging efficiency during long distance driving. IIRC, it will also release a bit more battery buffer to the driver.
Thanks for sharing this information.
In Europe we have had 2 major software updates. 450km real range as tested in the Netherlands, better recharging than the Id4 and etron. And many other, display, issues solved. The car journalists considered the new Bz4x with the updates even a good Bev because of the small battery pack, good range and 10 years warranty.... . He said, the Tesla Y is still the better EV but not the better build car, and far less warranty
I've had one on order since June 2022 and still waiting for the FWD limited here in the north east usa.
They seem to be coming in faster lately. Fingers crossed for you!
I bought the 2023 Subaru SOLTERRA and I’m happy with the suv.
There’s another RUclipsr in Canada called the EV Dude who started with a Prime and then bought a BZ4X. He pretty quickly decided he’d made a mistake and sold his Toyota and bought an Ioniq 5. The 5 seems like a really excellent EV and the specs on the BZ4X lead me to believe Toyota isn’t really serious about EV’s yet. I own a Prime and I know my next car will also be an EV, but it’s unlikely to be a Toyota. The Model Y has more than 50 % more horsepower and range and better charging speed and a much better charging network. It makes the BZ4X seem pretty mediocre as an EV. But on a subjective level it doesn’t really appeal to me and I much prefer the looks of the Ioniq 5. It also has a volume knob which would be a good thing for Toyota to correct. 😊 Thanks for your review, I think as an actual owner your opinion is important.
Everyone’s needs are different. I must admit I am loving the EV in warm temps.
Go ahead and buy whatever.
I'm happy with the BZ4X FWD.....and happier by the day!
Comparing the BZ4X to the IONIQ 5 is fair game but to a Tesla model Y? The equivalent Model Y to my AWD BZ is $19k more expensive (including incentives) so not really applicable.
Good review. Quirks and nuisances aside, I love this car too. Did you get an owner's manual and second key FOB with yours? Still waiting here.
Yes I did
Je pense changer ma kona électrique 2020 pour un rav 4 prime!!! Je Voudrais vôtre opinions svp merci
Tant que vous êtes conscient du problème du cablegate et que vous pouvez vivre avec ces problèmes futurs, le Prime est un excellent VUS. Je n'ai pas encore essayé ou évalué le Kona, mais le seul propriétaire que je connaisse l'adore.
This car was the worst mistake my wife made. Dealership fed us the crap that it gets 250 miles on a charge. But that is only if you stay under 65mph and dont have the A/C or heat on and do not drive on the highway. Our model takes 3 hours to go from 42% to 75% It took me and my family 11 hours to get from Dallas to Beaumont which is usually a 4.5 to 5 hour drive. Ill never buy another EV thanks to this thing.
Thanks for the feedback!!
It boils down to how you use the car/SUV. In our case it is our 3rd vehicle, so the other two we use for long distance and this one for local trips. It gets charged at home 90% of the time, so no stress for charging or distance. I made a LOT of videos about winter to warn others of the effects on range. I really should do one when it finally gets hot enough for AC here.
After software update it will be super package i comparison on current market.
I mean it is a lot of haters in internet and even range in winter - if You compare, You can not find better in this price range.
Can't wait to see if the upgrade helps. I like the vehicle overall. I just wish they had more chargers all over the place.
Apparently Toyota did an update, did you get the update??
Yes. Made the guesstimate more accurate in my case.
Bonjour, je viens tout juste d'acheter une BZ4X LE, 😢. Ce qui m'inquiète est l'autonomie et le chauffage l'hiver? Quel est l'autonomie que vous avez mesuré à une température de -20 C avec le chauffage à 19 C? Merci.
Allez voir le vidéo @ -30c (BZ4X Extreme Temperatures)
You’re right on all points, especially the piano black surfaces. They scratch exceptionally easily. I’ve had my car for 4 months and the surfaces look 2 years old. Hoping the software upgrades fix the glaring issues this car has. Like you I enjoy my BZ but Toyota could be doing a much better job making sure owners are happy.
Thanks for taking the time to comment!
Je suis satisfait a 90% de la kona pour le quotidien mais pour les roadtrips c'est une autre chose !!! Et l'hiver c'est pas terrible !!! Comme la plupart des Ev !!!
Pas fort en hiver effectivement..
If you’re on the fence about the bZ4X, I’d say go for it. It’s a stylish, efficient, and reliable electric car that makes driving fun while being eco-conscious.
For sure, if it was priced around the Bolt, would be a correct car.
Considering the hit I am taking on devaluation, I should make a new one about that aspect for sure. To be fair, I do enjoy the ride and the savings. So I’m keeping it for a while.
Bob.
I have one and like it more everyday. It's fantastic to drive and I have learnt how EVs need to be managed different from petrol cars. And it's about one third the price to run!!
Agree charging networks need improvement but that's a universal problem, not bz4x specific.
Efficiency is as good as competitors, battery is a bit smaller and consequently range.
I never open my glove box in my other cars so I don't miss it!
I'm still cursing at the glove box area every once in a while. LOL. It's a great SUV overall.
I have one problem, which is the guidebook with Chinese language, so I recommend to be in anther language especially in English.
Mine isn’t in Chinese.
In good weather it still charges slow. Hour and a half to get to 80% in California
That's not good news. I was hoping it was the cold that made it so slow to charge.
My car sounds like airplane and is giving me headaches my ear pops and Toyota is not coming back to me and this is a clear problem I never owned car I had to complain about the noise
That is not my experience at all. Did you figure it out?
@@BobPellerin because u are advertising this car .Every person sat in my car they feel it but Toyota is saying the car is fine .They won’t sale this very good because is not good for long drives in freeway.
Conclusion - Do NOT buy a Toyota... ever!
Just know what you are buying is all I am trying to get across. I like my BZ4X as my other videos show. It’s quiet and comfy.
@BobPellerin "Quiet and comfy" is a given with any EV. Well... the Kona might be a little harsh at bumps but still comfortable.
The bad thing with Toyota is that they are relying on their past glory. Now they are offering the false promise of "reliability" but are instead selling lower quality and cheaply made vehicles with predefined life. They know when you're going to need service and how long their components will last. This "life" is getting shorter and shorter every year because their investors expect higher profits every quarter.
A company that sells vehicles with a loss or a 1.6% margin... does not make money by doing goodwill for its customers.
Furthermore, Toyota is spending billions lobbying against the EV transmission... just because they are stubbornly not ready for it.
Hi is so negative, this is not a bad car!
You probably want to see my other videos on the SUV. I still own this and do enjoy the ride. The point was to make sure people knew what they were getting into with this EV.
Heureusement que j'ai repris mon dépôt !!
Si l'on peut s'accommoder de l'autonomie limitée, il est très agréable à conduire dans l'ensemble.