"I've read about the Gyrhino's special jump capability, but how come others haven't tried incorporate the same thing?" A number of gyros have had jump take-off capability, from the old Air & Space 18A and some Benson Gyrocopters to the Air Command and the GBA Hawk 4. The problem is that the added weight, complexity, and cost isn't seen as being worthwhile by many; one might as well get a true helicopter at that point.
Similar size/class Helicopters cost around $600k used, don't have anywhere NEAR the ... A). Range B). Safety C). Low mant. cost D). I could go on but I'm becoming a broken record when there are RUclips videos comparing them. So, this is Me shutting-up now, lol
I've read about the Gyrhino's special jump capability, but how come others haven't tried incorporate the same thing? Is it the added complexity required?
The same i tought. Its a very good feature vs the mechanical complexity. All gyros should incorporate a clutch in the rotors in order to give initial angular speed.
Jump takeoffs are cool and fun I'm sure, but from what I've been told by instructors, is they are very stressful to the rotor system and shouldn't be done.
My guess, Depends on various factor's, (i.e. rotor blades material compound, where along the rotor system the energy is being applied, if the particular instructor mentioned is sighting actual post examination results vs. hunch, etc. The more general concern I have become aware of regarding the jump take-off option, is if a sudden and abrupt change in weather conditions were to occur, some amount of lift could possibly be lost
@@ictpilothas nothing to do with “recommendations,” it depends on whether the gyro has been designed for it or not. Basically 2 additional things are required, a direct mechanical drive from the engine to spin up the rotor, and a collective pitch control (same as a helicopter has). The collective rotates the blades to a higher angle of attack once the rotor is spun up, which creates the jump. Adding these 2 features is a very big increase in complexity over a “standard” gyro, so there is a penalty in weight and cost as well. This runs counter to the light and simple (and cheap) philosophy that is very attractive to most gyro pilots.
"I've read about the Gyrhino's special jump capability, but how come others haven't tried incorporate the same thing?" A number of gyros have had jump take-off capability, from the old Air & Space 18A and some Benson Gyrocopters to the Air Command and the GBA Hawk 4. The problem is that the added weight, complexity, and cost isn't seen as being worthwhile by many; one might as well get a true helicopter at that point.
Similar size/class Helicopters cost around $600k used, don't have anywhere NEAR the ...
A). Range
B). Safety
C). Low mant. cost
D). I could go on but I'm becoming a broken record when there are RUclips videos comparing them. So, this is Me shutting-up now, lol
@@cecilwhiting125 I mean if you're competent you can build an enclosed mosquito for less than 50k
that is pretty cool!
So nice
You guys are brave
It's a sprout in the middle of the potato you're filming with.
Is great idea they must to make this machine in mass
Qto que custa quero um por gentileza
It's been 20 odd years; what happened to this concept?
I've read about the Gyrhino's special jump capability, but how come others haven't tried incorporate the same thing? Is it the added complexity required?
manofsan h
The same i tought. Its a very good feature vs the mechanical complexity. All gyros should incorporate a clutch in the rotors in order to give initial angular speed.
I don't know. I'm pretty sure they were both at Mentone in 2010 but I haven't seen them the past couple of years.
A lot of noise and a lot of drag, these machines.
These are some very angry lawn mowers!
Can you stall one of those?
What ever happened to the Gyrhino ?
Runway Shmumway
Jump takeoffs are cool and fun I'm sure, but from what I've been told by instructors, is they are very stressful to the rotor system and shouldn't be done.
@randy s Not one of the modern ones recommend it and all it is is over speeding the rotor. There isn't any special equipment to do it.
@randy s Carter Copters never made it into production and is not one of the modern ones. Look at AutoGyro, Magni, etc.
My guess, Depends on various factor's, (i.e. rotor blades material compound, where along the rotor system the energy is being applied, if the particular instructor mentioned is sighting actual post examination results vs. hunch, etc.
The more general concern I have become aware of regarding the jump take-off option, is if a sudden and abrupt change in weather conditions were to occur, some amount of lift could possibly be lost
@@cecilwhiting125 No modern gyro company recommends a jump take off. auto gyro,etc. they're not designed for them.
@@ictpilothas nothing to do with “recommendations,” it depends on whether the gyro has been designed for it or not.
Basically 2 additional things are required, a direct mechanical drive from the engine to spin up the rotor, and a collective pitch control (same as a helicopter has). The collective rotates the blades to a higher angle of attack once the rotor is spun up, which creates the jump.
Adding these 2 features is a very big increase in complexity over a “standard” gyro, so there is a penalty in weight and cost as well. This runs counter to the light and simple (and cheap) philosophy that is very attractive to most gyro pilots.
You can tell she's a bit lighter by the performance difference 😉
Excellent !!!
Thanks for sharing !
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xe1060
Wouldn’t hers be called a GynoCopter??? 😂
High wind again
..not favorite flying conditons.
Sketchy as hell .....unsafe practice.