Come on, Dan, Chun Li _does_ learn something. She learns how to make a fireball, a key representation of her progress as a character, which is why the revenge plot ends with her killing her father's murderer by breaking his neck with her ankles.
The filmmakers were off by one degree regarding Chun-Li's character: the pianist should be her COVER STORY for why she's traveling all over! And for some emotional impact, she reveals in a quiet dialogue with an ally that "yes, as a kid I did enjoy the piano a lot"
I know I'm late to this, but I just watched Legend of Chun-Li for Bad Movie Night & I feel like Bison marrying & impregnating an innocent woman for the purpose of murdering her by ripping their unborn child out through her stomach means that he probably didn't need to do a ritual to eliminate his goodness. Feels very results-oriented. I'm not expecting ancient evil rituals to undergo rigorous peer review, but I feel like this one in particular has a strong sample bias towards "people who are already completely fucking evil anyway"
My thinking too. If Bison can go for at least a year romancing a woman and staying with her while their child is carried almost to term, all the while planning to horribly mutilate and kill her for a procedure that benefits only himself, I think it's safe to say his conscience wasn't a big hinderance to his everyday bastardry. With a lot of effort, you might be able to think of more horrible acts he could commit, but his stupid real estate fraud, even with the associated thuggery, doesn't even come close.
Its the kind of thing that would still be dumb but less so if Bison's backstory involved him being a bad (but not evil) person who's conscious got in the way at some point, instigating the dumb scene in question.
I was thinking the same thing: If you’re evil enough to rip a baby out of the woman you impregnated’s womb, you’re already evil enough. You don’t need to be more evil. You’re adding an unnecessary step to your process and delaying your plans by at least nine months.
@@bificommander7472 change him into a DA/prosecutor that feels like the justice system is letting criminals get away. Give him a good life where he’s upset at how things are but stuck due to “the system” not letting criminals be properly punished. Have him get sketchy evidence of this ritual from a case that gets rejected then on his way home with his 8month pregnant wife they get attacked by a criminal that he tried and failed to prosecute. Ultimately failing to protect his wife from the gang he reads the ritual to save his baby from his dying wife, but ends up turning into a heartless man who leaves said kid behind
10:38 - *checks another window "We're going to put the movie on pause for a moment and talk about gays." Wait, what? *checks back Oh, gaze. That makes much more sense. *short time later, talks about how one character is a lesbian Well, then.
@@BlaqRainFresh Are you sure about that? I've been running this organization for longer than you've been alive, and I assure you... _(sinister chuckle)_ milk _does_ expire.
JohnnyTheWolf Never seen Future Cops. Legend of Chun-Li is, I guess, "technically better" than 1994 SF, but it sounds very dull and boring. I'd take an entertaining trainwreck over a movie that's _just_ competent enough to have nothing going for it any day.
@JohnnyTheWolf I don't think we'll get a good movie adaption of the Street Fighter games. I do, however, think we can get a good movie adaption of the anime series; but probably not an american one.
I love watching your videos man, I feel like I'm getting cleverer! Sometimes when I watch a film now I have a tiny Dan on my shoulder who's like, "So in this scene, the filmmakers chose to edit this particular sequence in such a way that..." and I love it!
That's funny coz I totally have an Olly voice when I'm reading books and analysing text that whispers the philosophical underpinnings of whatever I'm into
I'll be the Street Fighter nerd and throw in some SF lore tidbits here: -As dumb as the Bison ridding himself of goodness thing is, it is canon that Rose is his good side. He created Rose in order to gain Psycho Power (his magic mumbo-jumbo powers) and became super-evil. Rose is pretty powerful herself, but she's definitely not his daughter. -Gen is a bit older than he is in the movie, and is considered one of the best fighters in the world. He does teach Chun in the game lore, but his main motivation in the series is that he is dying, and hopes to have one last great fight (usually with Akuma). The movie actually really missed a great opportunity to parallel Gen with Chun's mother, and see how she would react to that news. Couple of minor things, but thought people might like to know.
On the topic of Gen, it seems kind of out of place that he teacher her how to create a fireball considering Gen doesn't use any kind of projectiles in the game. Chun Li didn't even have a fireball in her first appearance, so it's really not a hard sell to drop that entire plot point from the movie. Alternatively, teaching her something like her lightning kicks would have made more sense since Gen does use similar rapid speed attacks in the games, but they probably went with the fireball because any half-decent CGI team could put that into a scene.
Drakes Blue I agree, but at the same time, I can also buy that Gen knows enough about ki that he could channel a fireball if he wanted to... but it doesn't fit his style.
Part of why that is the only video game movie I've ever enjoyed watching. It did bug me that goombas were dinosaurs instead of chestnuts or evil mushrooms though.
There's an entire movie dedicated to explaining why The Super Mario Bros 1993 movie is actually extremely important in dissecting our current societal health (and how that movie predicted it). Some More News: The Movie.
“We need to make street fighter more realistic for this movie. So instead of trying to adapt thd crazy special moves and stuff, we’ll try to make it a more gritty martial arts action movie.” “Also we’ll adapt the plot point of Bison expelling the positive emotions from his body, which became their own person, in exchange for magic powers.”
But to make it more realistic, the positive emotions are put into a fetus instead of becoming a separate corporeal person. And also the details are muddled so it looks kinda like Bison just does this so he can be pure evil.
OK, but what about a video discussing why the "It was Tuesday" scene from Street Fighter: The Movie is one of the most perfectly constructed scenes ever made?
I always thought it was a good quote, but you made me watch the whole scene... My god, that was the best thing I've ever seen. That's a movie gem, what is it doing in Street Fighter??
@@BvousBrainSystems Check out the video titled "The Story of Street Fighter: The greatest bad movie ever made" by Michael Saba to get even more appreciation of the movie and Raul Julias performance.
Dan I can't fucking believe you really made this and I love you for it. Chun Li was like a personal idol of mine as a girl in the 90s and one of my friends, as a gag, bought me a ticket to this movie because we both knew it would suck and he wanted to see my reaction. Nobody in that theater took it seriously. The sequel tease at the end led to someone else in the theater screaming "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!" at the top of their lungs. Much booze was had.
Its so weird that, of all the story elements they changed, they kept the Bison origin the same. In the game Bison is a ethereal being that hops from body to body, so him removing parts of his soul arent all that weird. In the movie he is just some evil real estate guy, so why did they keep this?!
To me, the most intriguing question created by the "getting rid of all my goodness", is, *why* would he do that? What even is the motivation? Does he think his goodness is holding him back? From what? If so, how could he kill his wife with seemingly no hesitation? It's almost paradoxical. Trying to imagine what kind of person would and could commit cold-blooded murder to try and remove their own goodness is such an interesting question. "Because he's evil" can't answer it.
In the games, Bision apparently gets rid of his goodness so he can use his psychotic magic powers. But that isn't in the movies, so...I guess Bison thought he would get cool magic by doing that, but the Powers That Be screwed him out of that deal for some reason?
Bison killing his wife and also potentially his child for no explained reason besides "it makes you evil" reads to me like a young adult novel revelation, the kind where the power *'😮was within you all along😮'* but in the worst possible way. There had to be one moment where Bison looked down at his wife's graphically desecrated body and wondered, "...wait, did I not already have the capacity for unrestrained evil?"
I find it really funny that after his brutal Lady Macbeth moment (which is more graphic and conceptually disturbing than almost anything else in the movie) the heights of evil he can now access are apparently... being a capitalist? Is this just a rite of passage to get on the fortune 500 in this universe
To me, it's funny to imagine her trying to play some Chopin or whatever in front of an audience but her hands are all gnarled and broken from punching so many people so often throughout the course of the film. Like, the only sounds are uncomfortable throat clearing and coughing from the audience mixed in with the sound of grinding bone fragments in her mangled knuckles. Just a few plinks and plonks here and there as she shakily manages to lightly press down a key or two.
That's why her fighting style focuses on kicks, is what somebody smarter than the filmmakers would do. Chun's kung fu in the games even has plenty of palm strikes.
I really liked your phrasing about disingaging extremity at ~19:50. I recently watched a six episode Scottish crime drama with my parents, where my dad expressed a similar experience when they dropped the corpse of a missing teen out of the back of the truck he'd been abandoned in, in front of his parents, and all the attendees of a town meeting. It immediately and irreparably severed my father's emotional connection to the plot, and started some verbal fist-shaking at the writers, saying how it made it about them. I didn't get it in that circumstance, quite willing to take it in stride with the rest of the overinflated events and reactions in the show, and not really getting how it had anything to do with anything other than upping the tension and horror™ for a less critical audience. I think you captured pretty well what I think Dad's experience had been
To be fair about the Rose thing, that was sorta from the games. But also to be fairer, they didn't have the daughter thing but rather had her more directly as a piece of his soul, given in the games Bison was more an evil mysterious body-hopper with an unknown past (Cammy's backstory was tied into that, and there's even a long standing theory that Bison's original body was female). Which kinda goes to show how making a character's motives/backstory less "pulpy" can also make it ironically more stupid. See also: Thanos being a malthusian rather than being a "Nice Guy" trying to get out of the "friendzone" with the personification of death.
That movie KNEW it was over-the-top, and it was extremely entertaining. How about that scene where ehonda fought zangief over the miniature of the city, and they added godzilla sounds lol. you can't take that movie seriously, and if you don't, you'll TRULY enjoy it. "I'm going to kick that sonuvabitchs Bison's ass so hard, the next Bison wannabe is gunna feel it!"
I feel like Castlevania on Netflix is one of the few game adaptations where the creative team gets it. Not only is it in a series format, giving it more time to breathe, but those old NES games strike the balance of having a solid foundation to start with, while also leaving enough to the imagination to force the writers to dig deep and be creative when fleshing out the world and story.
I also think animation is really the way to go for most games. If I watch a Street Fighter movie I wanna see Vega do his flying barcelona into izuna drop, but if you have a real actor doing that with effects it just looks silly because that's impossible. You could probably make it look pretty good as an animation though.
Now that we got arcane there ain't much excuse for bad video game content anymore (to be fair though a lot of League of Legends is designed to be a story you read so it adapts better)
@@cheesi That is the issue though; for a lot of people animation isn't respectable, I don't think, at least in the way Dan was talking about here. While some animated things have earned respectability (mostly old disney), a lot of people see it as cartoons, and will always 2nd class it to live action films, in the same way as video games are treated.
@@TurdInternational Perhaps the saddest part is that most "live-action" movies these days are mostly CG, i.e. a form of animation, so it doesn't have to actually be live-action; it just has to be called live-action for people to see it as superior to animation.
I think they could have presented Bison and Chun Li as opposites and the seeds where already here. Their journeys are almost parallel. Bison was dealt a bad hand since birth and had to live the rough life Chun Li opted into when she got to Thailand. If, IF Bison had been shown to be sacrificing his goodness to out OUT of extreme poverty, that might be something. And then, maybe in the end maybe you have Chun Li decide wether she's gonna sacrifice her good side, give in and murder Bison, thus becoming like him. Instead we don't get a sense that Bison killed someone he loved for something, in exchange for something. He can't even teleport and fly. Did that make him a rich businessman? Or did he fish-steal his way into wealth? I hate to use this as an example, but...Mortal Kombat Annihilation took Shao Khan, who was a pretty one note "tough" villain who said one liners, and said "yeah, he's all that, but he's actually pretty much trying to impress his father." This one took a one note villain and made him a one note villain with a confusing backstory.
@@fightingmedialounge519 ah. I mean, personally I think it's fine. In real life, evil and cruel people tend to be secretly pretty pathetic. In fact, oftentimes it's their own shortcomings that made them that way Not that a series like Mortal Kombat NEEDS to be realistic or anything more than violent dumb fun, but still
The biggest travesty was the lack of sexily muscular thighs. The reason you go to a Chun-Li movie is to see some powerful legs doing powerful kicks. You start there and build the movie from there
@@deletedTestimony when you see a woman with insanely muscular legs- that’s character. Think about the discipline and training it took to get there. She’s driven! She’s got a goal and sacrificed to get there! Everything else you just build on those legs 🦵 that’s it. That’s the real reason this movie failed and Kristen Kremlin disappeared off the face of the earth 🌏
This is only the 3rd Folding Ideas video I've watched, but something about the absolute calmness if his voice unsettled me. Not sure how to describe it, but I just found it impossible for someone to spend twenty-five minutes describing a movie this bad without displaying any emotion. Perhaps the movie destroyed his soul.
Almost anyone who goes to Street Fighter tournaments could tell a more compelling story about their journey to master and compete in the video game than anything this film could achieve.
@@joelman1989 You have some pretty good ideas there, friend. I never knew how much I needed a Yuyu Hakusho tournament arc where the character's journey culminates in Evo Moment #37.
Wait... Have you spent YEARS teaching us about things like GAZE and the Kulishov Effect, just so you could take a second, deeper shot at 'Street Fighter: The Legend of Chung-Li'? You play the long game, bro!
Looks like a bunch of the problems are due to the need to include fanservice/callbacks to game lore: -"white rose" and the whole thing with the baby= reference to the character "Rose" in the video game who was a little girl whose mother Bison killed before infusing her with all his goodness,leaving him pure evil, in order to gain magic powers - bizarre parallel subplot = a character called "Charlie Nash" who is motivation for a popular street fighter character (van damme's Guile) due to being killed by Bison. His only purpose is to tease people who have this knowledge with the prospect of him getting killed so we "witness Guile's backstory". - Anachronisms with Gen: due to the fact that Gen in the games is supposedly thousands of years old; so the script presumably isn't aware of the fact that a young actor has been selected to play him. -weird shift in tone for the nightclub battle= fanservice and contrivance to get Chun li into her videogame outfit and show off her helicopter kick -real estate nonsense: presumably to allow him to bring in his "shipment" which is Rose. As Chun Li's father has been kept alive all this time, and has been presumably preparing something for Bison (captive scientists working under duress are a trope in Bison's backstories) it is probably assumed we would deduce that Bison is securing a location for the "psycho drive" which is located in Thailand in the videogame, and is where Bison performs genetic experiments that grant him immortality. -concert pianist: have no bloody idea. In all SF lore she becomes an interpol agent in order to take down Bison and clearly was one in an early draft of this script for reasons given in the video (handwaves aside a lot of silliness). I can only assume someone decided Nash should be the agent instead (he is US military in the game) and as a result Chun Li couldn't be one without knowing him. Seems the thing that kills videogame movies is all the "hidden story": stuff floating around outside the margins that originates from the game itself.
Quick thing about Dictator/Vega/M.Bison, he was always a pretty lame villan, more a really cool and menacing character design than a character, its only really after the push for narative in games and the US Arcades being taken out to pasture, that Capcom fighting games went for stories that are more than "beat up guy for revenge" or "Beat up guy to be the strongest in the world". The whole Infuse Child with Virtue thing calls back to Cammy White, a clone/vessel made for Bison so he can live forever(presumably), if Bison isnt trying to take over the world or... rob banks... he's busy making vessels/apprentices(the Dolls, Seth, Ed and that chick with the stick) to carry on Psycho Power for eternity... except for Athena from King of Fighters.
Always pour one out for the warcraft movie. In the end, it was an "ok" movie that could have been great, given a little less corporate oversight and a little more storytelling freedom.
She's not even full Chinese, she's Dutch-Chinese-Indonesian and this movie ended her career. Her acting is shit though so this is like mercy career killing
@@GigawingsVideo She was in the Beauty and the Beast reboot after this. It was also bad but was a hit. Honestly, I think Kristen Krueck is one of the most beautiful actresses in Hollywood, but also one of the worst actors.
I want to recall The King of Fighters movie has a similar effect. They cast Sean Farris to play Kyo Kusanagi, but a photo of Kyo as a kid looks to be rather more Asian than Farris.
I had the same issue when I watched the movie, very jarring to see a little asian girl grow up into a mixed race adult. Nothing bad said about the main actress or the little girl, they are both doing an okay job, but the casting agent needed to either find a mixed race little girl or a fully asian main lead.
That's not a felony murder. That's a 2nd degree murder. A felony murder is when you are committing a felony and someone dies as a result (You drive 180 on the road and run over a pedestrian). The felony murder rule basically eliminates the intent prong of a murder charge so long as you can prove the intent prong of the felony that lead to the death.
Thanks for this. I always wondered "wait, aren't all murders felonies? is it called 'felony murder' to distinguish it from self-defense? but self-defense isn't murder? are they just being redundant to be dramatic?" But now I know what 'felony murder' is.
That is two counts of first degree murder (she intended to kill Bison and mook with gun as he was already no longer a threat) and one second degree (dropping several tons of metal could be argued as not intended to kill him but she still tossed that shelf on him if it did). However her actions in assault and battery by dropping that shelf on him by any common sense is inherently dangerous as to count as Felony Murder so we're back to three counts of first degree murder.
Your videos stimulate me in a profound and playful Bill Wurtzian kind of way and are without a doubt some of the best content on RUclips. I know I'm comparing apples and oranges- one being scripted with intent and critical analysis and the other being in the "...huh" category- but I mean to say your work always evokes a smile and a little quiet time to comprehend before moving on with my day. It changes the way I view other media, for the better. Keep it up Dan! Thank you!
It's always neat to see content creators recreate some old content. This isn't the first video I would have picked out to remake, but it still looks neat.
@@TapDat52K Originally 2012, reuploaded a few years ago for reasons I don't know because it was before I came to the channel. But I tend to watch the archives of channels I find and like, so I watched it. ruclips.net/video/XBS5ywyngxY/видео.html
10:40 I think at least a little condemnation is in order for the way the film presents lesbian attraction to women with the assumption that it follows in much the same way as no doubt the heterosexual man operating the camera would suggest.
How would it differ. Is there a difference in the way attraction is shown outwardly? If you find someone physically attractive then you look at them. Men do it to women, women do it to men, so on and so on
@@MayFlora Yes but we're given a literal frame of the character's vision--that's. Literally what the whole segment in this video is about. The camera shows her gaze. And lesbians do not look at women the same way straight men look at women. This framing, the gaze the filmmakers communicated, shows a fundamental misunderstanding of lesbian attraction. We do not look at women that way. To any lesbian watching this scene, it's painfully obvious that a straight man filmed it.
as a longtime fan of Street Fighter whose favorite character is Chun-Li, I well remember the day I walked around a corner in my local theater and saw a large standup display advertising the soon to be released Street Fighter: The Legend of Chun-Li. With almost no information, having not even seen a teaser trailer yet, I appraised the advertisement and immediately proclaimed: "That shit looks fucking terrible." I've been correct on a snap judgment call before but I'm not sure if it's ever been to such an incredible extent.
I watched the Legend of Chun-Li in theaters with my then-girlfriend. I was so excited for it, and it was such a let down, that honestly I think it's a big part of why we ended up splitting up. Like, she lost respect for me that day because my taste in art was so bad. But yah, my biggest gripe was that in this DarkKnight-esque gritty, realistic, everything-magical-has-an-explanation world, Surf Ninjas guy can just summon a fucking fireball.
What's just as fascinating as this film was its writer, Justin Marks. For a time, he was supposed to be the next big writer for numerous geek properties including Voltron, Robotech, He-Man and even Shadow of the Colossus, but after this film bombed critically and commercially, he was basically sent to screenwriter jail where none of his scripts could be turned into films and TV shows. He even wrote an op-ed about that painful experience around 2013. And then he suddenly got a massive big break when he finally got a screenplay turned into a film: the live-action Jungle Book remake released in 2016 which was the polar opposite of his last film he wrote, both critically and commercially. Suddenly he was back at the top, maybe a little too quickly though. He got a TV series made called Counterpart which lasted for 2 seasons but never found an audience despite favorable critical reception, and he was one of the original writers for Top Gun Maverick during its long development period (he is only credited for story in the final product alongside The Batman co-writer Peter Craig). Now he's expected to be the showrunner for an upcoming adaptation of Shogun for FX with his wife Rachel Kondo. Quite an unusual trajectory for the writer of a Street Fighter film. Edit: Now that Shogun has come out to overwhelming critical acclaim and strong viewership, it seems that Marks has finally found the recognition that he's been looking for for so long.
Wait, this asshole ran the Shogun adaptation?! That show was SHIT. It baited us with the prospect of things happening for TEN FUCKING EPISODES and NOTHING.
Honestly, until you showed Bison from Street Fighter: The Movie, I completely forgot this Bison was even supposed to be based on a video game character and not just another generic action villain
I saw this in theaters as a 13 year old kid who was obsessed with Street Fighter. I really wanted a “real” Street Fighter movie and was really excited. I was somehow able to very easily see how terrible the movie was immediately. I like to think it’s the first time I really thought about media critique lol
so I watched the original video of yours, and I have a hard time deciding what's the better one. This here goes into more detail and covers some more elements, but the original felt a bit tighter in the pacing, what I personally prefer. On the other hand, the focus on the bad script is more clearly relayed in this one. Luckily I don't have to chose, because both exist. I think they are complementary to a degree.
>Luckily I don’t have to choose because both of them exist The exact reason why people complaining about the culture changing is ruining movies. You don’t need another 500 movies with white hetero male leads when you’ve already got a million. It’ll be ok. Sorry for the tangent. I blame the flu.
nah, I agree. perpetuating only one group of people for decades isn't helpful. At best it stifles creativity and at worst it damages societal perception.
not necessarily. If we just give more people the opportunity to create there own media, with themes and ideas more close to there own background, we would get more diversity in ideas rather then just token representation. It shouldn't be the main focus, but it can't hurt to have more voices heard
I've been watching a lot of your essays and I just realized something amazing about your beard: it grows in the same places as John Wick's beard. Should you be so inclined, you could probably become John Wick's less shooty and more talky cousin Jim Wick.
I feel like it should be noted that extensive dubbing (aka adr) is actually not that uncommon in film, but the big problem is if it's not directed, mixed, or recorded in a way to mask that it was dubbed
something interesting i've read is that, most of the time, women don't show physical attraction about the way that men do. That's why songs about men made by women always seem different that songs made by men about women. Women will talk about a specific guy, while men will speak in general. "hoot girls with bewbs" vs "That guy specifically is hot." while i can't 100% say so, i'd say the cantana scene doesn't work because of that principle, cantana, as a lesbian, has a low likelihood of objectifying women in the way that the camera implies she does.
I've been binge watching your old stuff and your original Chun Li was actually the last thing I saw before going to bed. When I saw this I thought that RUclips messed up the thumbnails
@@EvelynDayless Unfortunately the Cardboard Robot character was cut because Capcom insisted on including SAWADA in the roster. And some red-armor trooper called BLADE for some reason.
I felt, weirdly, like Warcraft was the best video game movie I've seen to date. I thought it succeeded on many fronts. First, it didn't confuse me, aside from a single frame where I thought the focus lingered on a blade for too long, but I haven't noticed in subsequent watches, so who knows. Maybe I just made that up. Second, I really enjoyed it! Obviously, orcs fighting humans is not a hard sell, but the take on that conflict was new and used the common language of Tolkein in a really effective way for me. I may have cried a bit. Third, and probably most important for the companies making these movies: it made me want to play the game. I'd had no interest in WoW before watching the movie, but the movie got me convinced.
Just discovered your channel through Hbomb's stream (and witnessing how professional & wonderful you were on it, I thought you were absolutely amazing with the interviewing and producer stuff you did!) and I love this video already. Great content. Subbed!
Love love love. I realized that one of my struggles while watching is that for clarity I would love a sort of juxtaposed example of when a similar story is written/acted/edited/shot well. You do that a bit with the “dubbed” portion and the Raul Julia moment and I would so love to see you comment on where filmmakers do it well - particularly in relation to your critique. That said, I love your work and I thank you for what you add to the world.
Okay dude, I'm going to need you to NOT look like the newspaper editor from DareDevil. I mean, it fits because this is very informative and insightful, but I keep worrying that Bullseye will try to kill you before you finish.
Went to best buy a week before Christmas. On the shelf was both DBZ movies Battle of Gods and Resurrection F and next to them was the steelbook of Dragon Ball Evolution. It was the funniest thing I saw all week.
What is it about Folding Ideas that you hate so much!? I think asking people to watch that film is considered hate speech. Actually forcing them to watch it is an internationally recognized war crime.
Loved the video! It's really cool seeing you revisit your past work and re-evaluate your previous assertions. It's just really neat intellectual honesty.
Me and my buds rented this shortly after it came out as we knew it bombed and wanted to make fun of it / see a bad movie. Jokes on us, we were equally bored and confused. The only fun we had was trying to guess which character is who in Street Fighter, including Chun Li, and failing miserably at that.
The thing with Bison giving Rose his goodness was that the good part of the soul controls and limits the power of the bad part of the soul which is why he did that; to gain great power. In the games anyway. He did it in the movies because he did it in the games. But he’s not filled to bursting with his psycho energy ki so what’s the point.
I think this movie had all the elements of a good story without changing much: she wants to be a pianist, bison threatens her father cause of a debt. Her first time as a pianist, her family gets killed by bison goons, she's distressed when told, ruins the concert, runs home, gets attacked by goons, barely escapes. Regular life is ruined. Her uncle Gen from Thailand calls her, gives her a place to hide. He's part of a secret organization that fights bison. Trains her so she can defend herself. Timeskip a few years of living in the slums. Now Bison is in Thailand, wants to buy up their place. She has an opportunity to fight back, interpool is also tracking Bison down, they work together, her uncle gets killed, Bison escapes, she joins the cops as a special agent because she knows bison well after years of going after him and can fight. You have an arc, a setup for future movies, parallels, easy peasy.
I think the problem is video game movies have a hard time conveying the player agency that game players enjoy and the setting and charachter building movie goers want. For example, if they made a movie about shovel knight, any emotions, feelings, and non-canon dialogue from the game may displease loyalists of Shovel Knight... And the lack of substance that would come from normal setting and plot building techniques movie enthusiasts / critiques want would not be there. Otherwise they try writing their own plot, or mess hard on basic cinematography techniques, or misread the expectation of what the charachter should be like....
I really like the street fighter animated 2 movie. But, alot of it is for the amazing voice performances, and the action sequences. The plot is fairly bare bones and does represent the game. But I have met people who criticize the plot. But I dunno. Considering they had members of capcom watch over production more closesly probably helped.
Agreed. I think the problem with them is that they don't need to exist. good video game stories are tailored to the medium of video games. As you said, they allow for agency. there is plenty of downtime to run around doing your own thing (sidequests, collecting, training, etc.) So their stories need to accommodate for it. What then is the point of making a movie adaptation of a game, which can only be an inferior experience, and begs the question of why we even need to experience these stories in a film when we already have the game. It made sense in the 90s when games were limited in how they could tell a story. But now, with HD gaming, why do we need a movie to tell a story that was made to be interacted with?
I would be interested in a movie that, rather than trying to tell a story from a video game that demands to be interacted with, they told a story that fits the medium. I've always been a little curious what would happen if they made a movie adapting, say, the First Contact War from Mass Effect's backstory. The setting has the lore to support it, the games already take a lot of inspiration from sci-fi movies anyways, and it's not a story that could be told well as a Mass Effect RPG with varying story branches since of course it has to end in a certain way. It could be a movie that exists alongside and complements the games, rather than trying to BE the games.
i think the reason they are bad is because studios know they can half-ass it because they already have a successful brand, so they can simply go thru the motions of a movie and make a profit without any genuine effort.
Hoho - watching a movie, and reacting to the decisions of the filmmakers, rather than the action on the screen - I felt that *so strongly* when watching Rambo (2008) :D Within the first few kills, I went from following the story - to wondering what in the world could be going on with Sylvester Stallone
Super Mario Bros. is my guiltiest of guilty pleasure movies. I was, like, 12 years old when I saw it, and I still love it today. That’s how I can understand all the love for Space Jam.
I'm going to ignore all the interesting stuff you said for 25 minutes and 13 seconds and say that video game movies actually peaked with Mortal Kombat in 1995.
Sadly, with Raul Julia passed away the greatest Street Fighter movie of all time can never be made now. They had their chance while he was still with us and flew so close to the sun!
I feel like the most egregious part of this is how they go through all the effort of excising Chun Li's background as an Interpol agent and then they turn around and make a side character who is an Interpol agent with the exact same goal and character motivation.
Watching this video made me late for my job at I͡MP̸O͘RTAN͡T ̵BUS͝IN͠ESS
Get back to bloody work Harris
You would have gotten there sooner if you believed in a flat earth.
Harris, you killed my father with your Important Business.
I will make you pay...your taxes.
Arent you supposed to be a professional RUclipsmn now?
You Pinkos don't work and you know it! Stop eating soy.
Come on, Dan, Chun Li _does_ learn something. She learns how to make a fireball, a key representation of her progress as a character, which is why the revenge plot ends with her killing her father's murderer by breaking his neck with her ankles.
oh my god i didn't even think of that
There's a lot of ankle strength needed for fireballs.
Chekhov's Kikouken
Would you rather get burned or crushed by Chun Li's legs?
In the video though at 15:11, it's stated that she knocks him down by using her fireball
The filmmakers were off by one degree regarding Chun-Li's character: the pianist should be her COVER STORY for why she's traveling all over! And for some emotional impact, she reveals in a quiet dialogue with an ally that "yes, as a kid I did enjoy the piano a lot"
I know I'm late to this, but I just watched Legend of Chun-Li for Bad Movie Night & I feel like Bison marrying & impregnating an innocent woman for the purpose of murdering her by ripping their unborn child out through her stomach means that he probably didn't need to do a ritual to eliminate his goodness. Feels very results-oriented. I'm not expecting ancient evil rituals to undergo rigorous peer review, but I feel like this one in particular has a strong sample bias towards "people who are already completely fucking evil anyway"
"The real evil was inside you all along."
My thinking too. If Bison can go for at least a year romancing a woman and staying with her while their child is carried almost to term, all the while planning to horribly mutilate and kill her for a procedure that benefits only himself, I think it's safe to say his conscience wasn't a big hinderance to his everyday bastardry. With a lot of effort, you might be able to think of more horrible acts he could commit, but his stupid real estate fraud, even with the associated thuggery, doesn't even come close.
Its the kind of thing that would still be dumb but less so if Bison's backstory involved him being a bad (but not evil) person who's conscious got in the way at some point, instigating the dumb scene in question.
I was thinking the same thing: If you’re evil enough to rip a baby out of the woman you impregnated’s womb, you’re already evil enough. You don’t need to be more evil. You’re adding an unnecessary step to your process and delaying your plans by at least nine months.
@@bificommander7472 change him into a DA/prosecutor that feels like the justice system is letting criminals get away. Give him a good life where he’s upset at how things are but stuck due to “the system” not letting criminals be properly punished. Have him get sketchy evidence of this ritual from a case that gets rejected then on his way home with his 8month pregnant wife they get attacked by a criminal that he tried and failed to prosecute. Ultimately failing to protect his wife from the gang he reads the ritual to save his baby from his dying wife, but ends up turning into a heartless man who leaves said kid behind
10:38 - *checks another window
"We're going to put the movie on pause for a moment and talk about gays."
Wait, what?
*checks back
Oh, gaze. That makes much more sense.
*short time later, talks about how one character is a lesbian
Well, then.
When you use the gaze of a gay woman to justify the male gale
gay's gaze
Kansas City Shuffle
5 years later here i am laughing at your comment xD i had the same exact experience
The film justifies an erotic gaze by putting the gaze in the perspective of the gays.
Wait, if Bison was orphaned in Thailand as an infant, why the hell does he have an Irish accent? Do the filmmakers think accents are genetic?
That bothered me too!!
I think they do.
They think that Chinese people grow up to be half-white so it wouldn't surprise me.
His adopted parents were originally orphaned in Ireland.
watch?v=Voyg6SNVpu8
If you're not familiar with Streetfighter, the sentence, "her father was kidnapped by bison" is very amusing
I was so confused
Because it was tuesday?
It's even more amusing if you _are_ familiar with the series because Bison could refer to multiple different characters lmao
He was buffaloed by Buffalo buffalo.
Mike Bison.
No, the best line in the movie is
"Your father was the milk of my organization. But even milk has an expiration date." *snaps neck*
Pure poetry
No
@@BlaqRainFresh Are you sure about that? I've been running this organization for longer than you've been alive, and I assure you... _(sinister chuckle)_ milk _does_ expire.
The Legend Of Chun Li is one of my favourite movies.
Whenever I'm feeling inadequate, I put it on and go "well at least I'm not _this_ bad."
I watched the RLM description of Suburban Sasquatch and got sad because I actually can't make films better than that.
JohnnyTheWolf Never seen Future Cops. Legend of Chun-Li is, I guess, "technically better" than 1994 SF, but it sounds very dull and boring. I'd take an entertaining trainwreck over a movie that's _just_ competent enough to have nothing going for it any day.
@JohnnyTheWolf I don't think we'll get a good movie adaption of the Street Fighter games. I do, however, think we can get a good movie adaption of the anime series; but probably not an american one.
I think they wrote the script with crayon
A perfect comment from a guy with a chad level Gaston profile pic.
I love watching your videos man, I feel like I'm getting cleverer! Sometimes when I watch a film now I have a tiny Dan on my shoulder who's like, "So in this scene, the filmmakers chose to edit this particular sequence in such a way that..." and I love it!
That's funny coz I totally have an Olly voice when I'm reading books and analysing text that whispers the philosophical underpinnings of whatever I'm into
Capture the tiny Dan. Force it to breed. Sell it for profit. Late capitalism.
Don't make the same mistake I did and trap your tiny Dan inside a hoover bag.
i have a little garfield on my shoulder that tells me i'm hungry and depressed
@@rawalshadab3812 Now go watch a few Numberphile videos so you'll never get away from amazing RUclipsrs no matter what you choose to study!
I love how they changed Chun-Li from an Interpol agent to a concert pianist... and then added Interpol agents that don't do anything.
I'll be the Street Fighter nerd and throw in some SF lore tidbits here:
-As dumb as the Bison ridding himself of goodness thing is, it is canon that Rose is his good side. He created Rose in order to gain Psycho Power (his magic mumbo-jumbo powers) and became super-evil. Rose is pretty powerful herself, but she's definitely not his daughter.
-Gen is a bit older than he is in the movie, and is considered one of the best fighters in the world. He does teach Chun in the game lore, but his main motivation in the series is that he is dying, and hopes to have one last great fight (usually with Akuma). The movie actually really missed a great opportunity to parallel Gen with Chun's mother, and see how she would react to that news.
Couple of minor things, but thought people might like to know.
SF lore is always appreciated.
2 minor things that would have been massive improvements already
On the topic of Gen, it seems kind of out of place that he teacher her how to create a fireball considering Gen doesn't use any kind of projectiles in the game. Chun Li didn't even have a fireball in her first appearance, so it's really not a hard sell to drop that entire plot point from the movie. Alternatively, teaching her something like her lightning kicks would have made more sense since Gen does use similar rapid speed attacks in the games, but they probably went with the fireball because any half-decent CGI team could put that into a scene.
Drakes Blue I agree, but at the same time, I can also buy that Gen knows enough about ki that he could channel a fireball if he wanted to... but it doesn't fit his style.
But I won't lie, I love Gen. He was my main in vanilla SFIV until they nerfed him to hell in future versions.
"Mario Mario and Luigi Mario" is actually one of the most important moments of our cultural history
Part of why that is the only video game movie I've ever enjoyed watching. It did bug me that goombas were dinosaurs instead of chestnuts or evil mushrooms though.
@@MatthewJamesMullin Agreed!
There's an entire movie dedicated to explaining why The Super Mario Bros 1993 movie is actually extremely important in dissecting our current societal health (and how that movie predicted it).
Some More News: The Movie.
can't believe the cop used the hard O
“We need to make street fighter more realistic for this movie. So instead of trying to adapt thd crazy special moves and stuff, we’ll try to make it a more gritty martial arts action movie.”
“Also we’ll adapt the plot point of Bison expelling the positive emotions from his body, which became their own person, in exchange for magic powers.”
But to make it more realistic, the positive emotions are put into a fetus instead of becoming a separate corporeal person. And also the details are muddled so it looks kinda like Bison just does this so he can be pure evil.
OK, but what about a video discussing why the "It was Tuesday" scene from Street Fighter: The Movie is one of the most perfectly constructed scenes ever made?
yes!
I always thought it was a good quote, but you made me watch the whole scene...
My god, that was the best thing I've ever seen. That's a movie gem, what is it doing in Street Fighter??
@@BvousBrainSystems Check out the video titled "The Story of Street Fighter: The greatest bad movie ever made" by Michael Saba to get even more appreciation of the movie and Raul Julias performance.
It is such a great line, you would think, they reference something or stole it somewhere.
Honestly, who needs it explained? That's how perfect it is.
Dan I can't fucking believe you really made this and I love you for it. Chun Li was like a personal idol of mine as a girl in the 90s and one of my friends, as a gag, bought me a ticket to this movie because we both knew it would suck and he wanted to see my reaction.
Nobody in that theater took it seriously. The sequel tease at the end led to someone else in the theater screaming "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!" at the top of their lungs.
Much booze was had.
Its so weird that, of all the story elements they changed, they kept the Bison origin the same.
In the game Bison is a ethereal being that hops from body to body, so him removing parts of his soul arent all that weird.
In the movie he is just some evil real estate guy, so why did they keep this?!
To me, the most intriguing question created by the "getting rid of all my goodness", is, *why* would he do that? What even is the motivation?
Does he think his goodness is holding him back? From what? If so, how could he kill his wife with seemingly no hesitation? It's almost paradoxical.
Trying to imagine what kind of person would and could commit cold-blooded murder to try and remove their own goodness is such an interesting question. "Because he's evil" can't answer it.
In the games, Bision apparently gets rid of his goodness so he can use his psychotic magic powers. But that isn't in the movies, so...I guess Bison thought he would get cool magic by doing that, but the Powers That Be screwed him out of that deal for some reason?
Bison killing his wife and also potentially his child for no explained reason besides "it makes you evil" reads to me like a young adult novel revelation, the kind where the power *'😮was within you all along😮'* but in the worst possible way. There had to be one moment where Bison looked down at his wife's graphically desecrated body and wondered, "...wait, did I not already have the capacity for unrestrained evil?"
I find it really funny that after his brutal Lady Macbeth moment (which is more graphic and conceptually disturbing than almost anything else in the movie) the heights of evil he can now access are apparently... being a capitalist?
Is this just a rite of passage to get on the fortune 500 in this universe
@@xiphosura413 Little known fact: It's actually also the rite of passage to get on the fortune 500 in our universe!
You should've released this on a Tuesday.
To me, it's funny to imagine her trying to play some Chopin or whatever in front of an audience but her hands are all gnarled and broken from punching so many people so often throughout the course of the film. Like, the only sounds are uncomfortable throat clearing and coughing from the audience mixed in with the sound of grinding bone fragments in her mangled knuckles. Just a few plinks and plonks here and there as she shakily manages to lightly press down a key or two.
That's why her fighting style focuses on kicks, is what somebody smarter than the filmmakers would do. Chun's kung fu in the games even has plenty of palm strikes.
I really liked your phrasing about disingaging extremity at ~19:50. I recently watched a six episode Scottish crime drama with my parents, where my dad expressed a similar experience when they dropped the corpse of a missing teen out of the back of the truck he'd been abandoned in, in front of his parents, and all the attendees of a town meeting. It immediately and irreparably severed my father's emotional connection to the plot, and started some verbal fist-shaking at the writers, saying how it made it about them. I didn't get it in that circumstance, quite willing to take it in stride with the rest of the overinflated events and reactions in the show, and not really getting how it had anything to do with anything other than upping the tension and horror™ for a less critical audience. I think you captured pretty well what I think Dad's experience had been
To be fair about the Rose thing, that was sorta from the games. But also to be fairer, they didn't have the daughter thing but rather had her more directly as a piece of his soul, given in the games Bison was more an evil mysterious body-hopper with an unknown past (Cammy's backstory was tied into that, and there's even a long standing theory that Bison's original body was female).
Which kinda goes to show how making a character's motives/backstory less "pulpy" can also make it ironically more stupid. See also: Thanos being a malthusian rather than being a "Nice Guy" trying to get out of the "friendzone" with the personification of death.
Except the thanos change actually worked for his character.
So what you're saying is that Bison is a Problematic Trans Icon™️ and we have no choice but to stan
@@jackalobowaitthisnameistakenThis is really changing my perception of Street Fighter forever. Powerful stuff.
21:34 God, that is still such an immortal line that's kinda too good for that fucking movie.
It absolutely is.
Was thinking the same thing.
That movie KNEW it was over-the-top, and it was extremely entertaining. How about that scene where ehonda fought zangief over the miniature of the city, and they added godzilla sounds lol. you can't take that movie seriously, and if you don't, you'll TRULY enjoy it.
"I'm going to kick that sonuvabitchs Bison's ass so hard, the next Bison wannabe is gunna feel it!"
Raul Julia was too good for that movie
Damn.
I feel like Castlevania on Netflix is one of the few game adaptations where the creative team gets it. Not only is it in a series format, giving it more time to breathe, but those old NES games strike the balance of having a solid foundation to start with, while also leaving enough to the imagination to force the writers to dig deep and be creative when fleshing out the world and story.
I can only second that by saying that I've never played the game, but enjoyed the series. I was rooting for the bad guy, by the way.
I also think animation is really the way to go for most games. If I watch a Street Fighter movie I wanna see Vega do his flying barcelona into izuna drop, but if you have a real actor doing that with effects it just looks silly because that's impossible. You could probably make it look pretty good as an animation though.
Now that we got arcane there ain't much excuse for bad video game content anymore (to be fair though a lot of League of Legends is designed to be a story you read so it adapts better)
@@cheesi That is the issue though; for a lot of people animation isn't respectable, I don't think, at least in the way Dan was talking about here. While some animated things have earned respectability (mostly old disney), a lot of people see it as cartoons, and will always 2nd class it to live action films, in the same way as video games are treated.
@@TurdInternational Perhaps the saddest part is that most "live-action" movies these days are mostly CG, i.e. a form of animation, so it doesn't have to actually be live-action; it just has to be called live-action for people to see it as superior to animation.
I think they could have presented Bison and Chun Li as opposites and the seeds where already here. Their journeys are almost parallel. Bison was dealt a bad hand since birth and had to live the rough life Chun Li opted into when she got to Thailand.
If, IF Bison had been shown to be sacrificing his goodness to out OUT of extreme poverty, that might be something. And then, maybe in the end maybe you have Chun Li decide wether she's gonna sacrifice her good side, give in and murder Bison, thus becoming like him.
Instead we don't get a sense that Bison killed someone he loved for something, in exchange for something. He can't even teleport and fly. Did that make him a rich businessman? Or did he fish-steal his way into wealth?
I hate to use this as an example, but...Mortal Kombat Annihilation took Shao Khan, who was a pretty one note "tough" villain who said one liners, and said "yeah, he's all that, but he's actually pretty much trying to impress his father."
This one took a one note villain and made him a one note villain with a confusing backstory.
Some would argue that change hurt shao khan.
@@fightingmedialounge519 explain
@@th3rasave people think ahnnilation turning shao Kahn into a whining mess who wants his dad's aproval was a bad idea.
@@fightingmedialounge519 ah. I mean, personally I think it's fine. In real life, evil and cruel people tend to be secretly pretty pathetic. In fact, oftentimes it's their own shortcomings that made them that way
Not that a series like Mortal Kombat NEEDS to be realistic or anything more than violent dumb fun, but still
@@th3rasave which would be fine if it was going for a character study or drama, but that clearly wasn't the movies intention.
The biggest travesty was the lack of sexily muscular thighs. The reason you go to a Chun-Li movie is to see some powerful legs doing powerful kicks. You start there and build the movie from there
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It's literally her main character trait. Moreso than "works for interpol."
@@deletedTestimony when you see a woman with insanely muscular legs- that’s character. Think about the discipline and training it took to get there. She’s driven! She’s got a goal and sacrificed to get there! Everything else you just build on those legs 🦵 that’s it. That’s the real reason this movie failed and Kristen Kremlin disappeared off the face of the earth 🌏
Indeed I certainly would watch a movie with Chun-Li's squat routine.
At the very least, Chun Li's identity as a video game character is linked to her kick based fighting style. That's her signature attack.
Why do so many terrible plots involve real estate?
Probably because it's a lazy shorthand for "bad businessman doing bad thing".
Art imitating life? ;)
If only it were good art imitating life. 😂
I sure hope that you're not throwing shade at Gene Hackman's plan as Lex Luthor in Superman... for your sake.
@@joereno955 Of course I am. Have you seen The Quest for Peace?
I found the film rather informative. Now we know the details of the ritual you have to perform to become a billionaire.
😆😆
You could make a video describing paint drying and it would still be the most interesting thing in the world
Pinkie Watches Paint Dry
What about comments actually discussing the video? Or discussing paint drying? I personally prefer acrylic
The art of climate control and the Mona Lisa
TRUTH
This is only the 3rd Folding Ideas video I've watched, but something about the absolute calmness if his voice unsettled me. Not sure how to describe it, but I just found it impossible for someone to spend twenty-five minutes describing a movie this bad without displaying any emotion. Perhaps the movie destroyed his soul.
Almost anyone who goes to Street Fighter tournaments could tell a more compelling story about their journey to master and compete in the video game than anything this film could achieve.
Imagine a movie about Justin vs Daigo
@@joelman1989 You have some pretty good ideas there, friend. I never knew how much I needed a Yuyu Hakusho tournament arc where the character's journey culminates in Evo Moment #37.
Imagine a Rob Zombie’s Street Fighter film, based on Shadaloo’s DOLL-unit.
Wait... Have you spent YEARS teaching us about things like GAZE and the Kulishov Effect, just so you could take a second, deeper shot at 'Street Fighter: The Legend of Chung-Li'? You play the long game, bro!
I really liked your original breakdown of this, and seeing it again but in your modern, crisp style is a real treat!
I did have a feeling of deja vu. "Haven't I seen a breakdown of this movie before?" But I didn't remember it was here.
Looks like a bunch of the problems are due to the need to include fanservice/callbacks to game lore:
-"white rose" and the whole thing with the baby= reference to the character "Rose" in the video game who was a little girl whose mother Bison killed before infusing her with all his goodness,leaving him pure evil, in order to gain magic powers
- bizarre parallel subplot = a character called "Charlie Nash" who is motivation for a popular street fighter character (van damme's Guile) due to being killed by Bison. His only purpose is to tease people who have this knowledge with the prospect of him getting killed so we "witness Guile's backstory".
- Anachronisms with Gen: due to the fact that Gen in the games is supposedly thousands of years old; so the script presumably isn't aware of the fact that a young actor has been selected to play him.
-weird shift in tone for the nightclub battle= fanservice and contrivance to get Chun li into her videogame outfit and show off her helicopter kick
-real estate nonsense: presumably to allow him to bring in his "shipment" which is Rose. As Chun Li's father has been kept alive all this time, and has been presumably preparing something for Bison (captive scientists working under duress are a trope in Bison's backstories) it is probably assumed we would deduce that Bison is securing a location for the "psycho drive" which is located in Thailand in the videogame, and is where Bison performs genetic experiments that grant him immortality.
-concert pianist: have no bloody idea. In all SF lore she becomes an interpol agent in order to take down Bison and clearly was one in an early draft of this script for reasons given in the video (handwaves aside a lot of silliness). I can only assume someone decided Nash should be the agent instead (he is US military in the game) and as a result Chun Li couldn't be one without knowing him.
Seems the thing that kills videogame movies is all the "hidden story": stuff floating around outside the margins that originates from the game itself.
More so original scripts clashing with the source material.
How not to present a spinning kick... Jackie Chan did it best as a gag in an unrelated film...
Jackie Chan was a better Chun Li, period.
Drakkenmensch Silverflare Facts!
New Folding Ideas (gets popcorn)
Think Story *Semi*-new Folding Ideas.
Old-new?
@@Personal_Chizo Remastered
Folding Ideas 2.0, now with a more folded Foldy.
Gritty reboot
Quick thing about Dictator/Vega/M.Bison, he was always a pretty lame villan, more a really cool and menacing character design than a character, its only really after the push for narative in games and the US Arcades being taken out to pasture, that Capcom fighting games went for stories that are more than
"beat up guy for revenge"
or
"Beat up guy to be the strongest in the world".
The whole Infuse Child with Virtue thing calls back to Cammy White, a clone/vessel made for Bison so he can live forever(presumably), if Bison isnt trying to take over the world or... rob banks... he's busy making vessels/apprentices(the Dolls, Seth, Ed and that chick with the stick) to carry on Psycho Power for eternity... except for Athena from King of Fighters.
Does Bison reminds you of Geese Howard in this film…!?
Always pour one out for the warcraft movie. In the end, it was an "ok" movie that could have been great, given a little less corporate oversight and a little more storytelling freedom.
Ahhh Legend of Chun Li. A movie where a Chinese girl got whiter as she got older.
She's not even full Chinese, she's Dutch-Chinese-Indonesian and this movie ended her career. Her acting is shit though so this is like mercy career killing
@@GigawingsVideo She was in the Beauty and the Beast reboot after this. It was also bad but was a hit. Honestly, I think Kristen Krueck is one of the most beautiful actresses in Hollywood, but also one of the worst actors.
I want to recall The King of Fighters movie has a similar effect. They cast Sean Farris to play Kyo Kusanagi, but a photo of Kyo as a kid looks to be rather more Asian than Farris.
@@GigawingsVideo Then she joins a cult with another Smallville washout where they brand women and make them into slaves.
I had the same issue when I watched the movie, very jarring to see a little asian girl grow up into a mixed race adult. Nothing bad said about the main actress or the little girl, they are both doing an okay job, but the casting agent needed to either find a mixed race little girl or a fully asian main lead.
That's not a felony murder. That's a 2nd degree murder. A felony murder is when you are committing a felony and someone dies as a result (You drive 180 on the road and run over a pedestrian). The felony murder rule basically eliminates the intent prong of a murder charge so long as you can prove the intent prong of the felony that lead to the death.
Thanks for this. I always wondered "wait, aren't all murders felonies? is it called 'felony murder' to distinguish it from self-defense? but self-defense isn't murder? are they just being redundant to be dramatic?" But now I know what 'felony murder' is.
@Marcus Lorenzo If you are in a situation where this would be relevant and your lawyer doesn't know it, you are probably screwed.
That is two counts of first degree murder (she intended to kill Bison and mook with gun as he was already no longer a threat) and one second degree (dropping several tons of metal could be argued as not intended to kill him but she still tossed that shelf on him if it did). However her actions in assault and battery by dropping that shelf on him by any common sense is inherently dangerous as to count as Felony Murder so we're back to three counts of first degree murder.
@@insaincaldo That's the joke.
Wouldn't it be 1st degree? It seems like it was premeditated. Even if the method was, um, situational lol.
Your videos stimulate me in a profound and playful Bill Wurtzian kind of way and are without a doubt some of the best content on RUclips. I know I'm comparing apples and oranges- one being scripted with intent and critical analysis and the other being in the "...huh" category- but I mean to say your work always evokes a smile and a little quiet time to comprehend before moving on with my day. It changes the way I view other media, for the better.
Keep it up Dan! Thank you!
It's always neat to see content creators recreate some old content. This isn't the first video I would have picked out to remake, but it still looks neat.
Im a newer fan! (Post chez apocalypse) When did Dan do the original video on this topic?
@@TapDat52K Originally 2012, reuploaded a few years ago for reasons I don't know because it was before I came to the channel. But I tend to watch the archives of channels I find and like, so I watched it.
ruclips.net/video/XBS5ywyngxY/видео.html
Noted. And thanks!
@@TapDat52K Is it very different? I realise I've seen the original, but quite some time ago.
@@rameshsatkurunath3973 the whole bit on G A Z E wasnt in the first video
10:40 I think at least a little condemnation is in order for the way the film presents lesbian attraction to women with the assumption that it follows in much the same way as no doubt the heterosexual man operating the camera would suggest.
Agreed
you're certainly entitled to that opinion
@@Flowtail do you have a different opinion or insight into the gaze of lesbians?
How would it differ. Is there a difference in the way attraction is shown outwardly? If you find someone physically attractive then you look at them. Men do it to women, women do it to men, so on and so on
@@MayFlora Yes but we're given a literal frame of the character's vision--that's. Literally what the whole segment in this video is about. The camera shows her gaze. And lesbians do not look at women the same way straight men look at women. This framing, the gaze the filmmakers communicated, shows a fundamental misunderstanding of lesbian attraction. We do not look at women that way. To any lesbian watching this scene, it's painfully obvious that a straight man filmed it.
as a longtime fan of Street Fighter whose favorite character is Chun-Li, I well remember the day I walked around a corner in my local theater and saw a large standup display advertising the soon to be released Street Fighter: The Legend of Chun-Li. With almost no information, having not even seen a teaser trailer yet, I appraised the advertisement and immediately proclaimed: "That shit looks fucking terrible." I've been correct on a snap judgment call before but I'm not sure if it's ever been to such an incredible extent.
I watched the Legend of Chun-Li in theaters with my then-girlfriend. I was so excited for it, and it was such a let down, that honestly I think it's a big part of why we ended up splitting up. Like, she lost respect for me that day because my taste in art was so bad. But yah, my biggest gripe was that in this DarkKnight-esque gritty, realistic, everything-magical-has-an-explanation world, Surf Ninjas guy can just summon a fucking fireball.
"I stood when standing was not easy". An actual line from the movie.
What's just as fascinating as this film was its writer, Justin Marks. For a time, he was supposed to be the next big writer for numerous geek properties including Voltron, Robotech, He-Man and even Shadow of the Colossus, but after this film bombed critically and commercially, he was basically sent to screenwriter jail where none of his scripts could be turned into films and TV shows. He even wrote an op-ed about that painful experience around 2013.
And then he suddenly got a massive big break when he finally got a screenplay turned into a film: the live-action Jungle Book remake released in 2016 which was the polar opposite of his last film he wrote, both critically and commercially. Suddenly he was back at the top, maybe a little too quickly though. He got a TV series made called Counterpart which lasted for 2 seasons but never found an audience despite favorable critical reception, and he was one of the original writers for Top Gun Maverick during its long development period (he is only credited for story in the final product alongside The Batman co-writer Peter Craig). Now he's expected to be the showrunner for an upcoming adaptation of Shogun for FX with his wife Rachel Kondo.
Quite an unusual trajectory for the writer of a Street Fighter film.
Edit: Now that Shogun has come out to overwhelming critical acclaim and strong viewership, it seems that Marks has finally found the recognition that he's been looking for for so long.
Wait, this asshole ran the Shogun adaptation?! That show was SHIT. It baited us with the prospect of things happening for TEN FUCKING EPISODES and NOTHING.
"I guess my memory of what the PS3 looks like is a little rusty."
I think mine is too, if it looked like _that..._ (/s)
PS3, PS/3 - what's the difference? :-P
It would be incredibly hard for me to overstate how much I value and respect the content you create.
Great seeing a newer (and much improved) version of an old classic! I love that you left the old one up so we could contrast and compare!!
It's fascinating going back and watching your old Chun-Li video and then this one back to back.
Honestly, until you showed Bison from Street Fighter: The Movie, I completely forgot this Bison was even supposed to be based on a video game character and not just another generic action villain
Does he reminds you of Geese Howard?
I literally just rewatched the original episode the other day lol
oh? no wonder why this episode sounds so familiar
Yeah same, major deja vu
Throwing my hat into the ring to say that Takashi Miike's Ace Attorney was the greatest video game movie ever made.
wait WHAT. I didn't know this existed till now. Thank you!
I love that movie.
One of the best adaptations, for sure.
I can’t even begin to thank you for making me aware of this movie!!!
The most tragic part of this film was that they could have adapted the Daigo parry and the entire film would have been worth it to see.
Me, 6 mins in: I've seen something like this before.
This seems... familiar.
He did a review of it in 2015.
He linked that one in the description, stating he wanted to remake it due to several issues.
I saw this in theaters as a 13 year old kid who was obsessed with Street Fighter. I really wanted a “real” Street Fighter movie and was really excited. I was somehow able to very easily see how terrible the movie was immediately. I like to think it’s the first time I really thought about media critique lol
Well, at least some good came from it then.
I just love how he says: "The script SUUUUCKS" at 5:52
I really have no idea why I strongly felt that this was a 1999 movie, not a 2009 movie
I watched this movie once when I was like 12 years old but imma still watch this entire vlog hella enthusiastically
so I watched the original video of yours, and I have a hard time deciding what's the better one. This here goes into more detail and covers some more elements, but the original felt a bit tighter in the pacing, what I personally prefer. On the other hand, the focus on the bad script is more clearly relayed in this one. Luckily I don't have to chose, because both exist. I think they are complementary to a degree.
This one has Amycat so this one is better.
>Luckily I don’t have to choose because both of them exist
The exact reason why people complaining about the culture changing is ruining movies. You don’t need another 500 movies with white hetero male leads when you’ve already got a million. It’ll be ok.
Sorry for the tangent. I blame the flu.
nah, I agree. perpetuating only one group of people for decades isn't helpful. At best it stifles creativity and at worst it damages societal perception.
But constantly complaining about more diversity without any real substance behind is equally counterproductive.
not necessarily. If we just give more people the opportunity to create there own media, with themes and ideas more close to there own background, we would get more diversity in ideas rather then just token representation. It shouldn't be the main focus, but it can't hurt to have more voices heard
I've been watching a lot of your essays and I just realized something amazing about your beard: it grows in the same places as John Wick's beard. Should you be so inclined, you could probably become John Wick's less shooty and more talky cousin Jim Wick.
I feel like it should be noted that extensive dubbing (aka adr) is actually not that uncommon in film, but the big problem is if it's not directed, mixed, or recorded in a way to mask that it was dubbed
something interesting i've read is that, most of the time, women don't show physical attraction about the way that men do. That's why songs about men made by women always seem different that songs made by men about women. Women will talk about a specific guy, while men will speak in general. "hoot girls with bewbs" vs "That guy specifically is hot." while i can't 100% say so, i'd say the cantana scene doesn't work because of that principle, cantana, as a lesbian, has a low likelihood of objectifying women in the way that the camera implies she does.
I've been binge watching your old stuff and your original Chun Li was actually the last thing I saw before going to bed. When I saw this I thought that RUclips messed up the thumbnails
Super Folding Ideas II Turbo Championship Edition
I'm holding out for Super Folding Ideas Alpha 3rd Strike.
@@drakkenmensch I'm waiting for Folding Ideas: The Movie: The Game
@@EvelynDayless Unfortunately the Cardboard Robot character was cut because Capcom insisted on including SAWADA in the roster. And some red-armor trooper called BLADE for some reason.
That you found even the intent in that movie is impressive, I have no clue what they wanted to do except have a movie in their IMDB
I felt, weirdly, like Warcraft was the best video game movie I've seen to date. I thought it succeeded on many fronts. First, it didn't confuse me, aside from a single frame where I thought the focus lingered on a blade for too long, but I haven't noticed in subsequent watches, so who knows. Maybe I just made that up. Second, I really enjoyed it! Obviously, orcs fighting humans is not a hard sell, but the take on that conflict was new and used the common language of Tolkein in a really effective way for me. I may have cried a bit. Third, and probably most important for the companies making these movies: it made me want to play the game. I'd had no interest in WoW before watching the movie, but the movie got me convinced.
I love how you stick to the text without diving into the background/production of the film. You look at it as it is presented. Thank you!
Just discovered your channel through Hbomb's stream (and witnessing how professional & wonderful you were on it, I thought you were absolutely amazing with the interviewing and producer stuff you did!) and I love this video already. Great content. Subbed!
I am sooooo happy you're doing this movie again!!!!! Watching right now.
roll back a decade, 2009
please no stop. I'm not old, you're old. Oh God
Love love love.
I realized that one of my struggles while watching is that for clarity I would love a sort of juxtaposed example of when a similar story is written/acted/edited/shot well. You do that a bit with the “dubbed” portion and the Raul Julia moment and I would so love to see you comment on where filmmakers do it well - particularly in relation to your critique. That said, I love your work and I thank you for what you add to the world.
I was a little kid when this movie came out and i remember just being absolutely lost and confused by the cave scene with bison. absolutely wack
I always like it when you come back and revisit topics with your more honed analytical edge.
Okay dude, I'm going to need you to NOT look like the newspaper editor from DareDevil. I mean, it fits because this is very informative and insightful, but I keep worrying that Bullseye will try to kill you before you finish.
Don't mind me, I'm just waiting for the real M.C.U. ; the Mario Cinematic Universe.
Okay, now do Dragon Ball Evolution. :)
Emiliano Feliberti no one should ever do Dragon Ball Evolution, especially not the original filmmakers.
no
Went to best buy a week before Christmas. On the shelf was both DBZ movies Battle of Gods and Resurrection F and next to them was the steelbook of Dragon Ball Evolution. It was the funniest thing I saw all week.
Emiliano Feliberti
No! Not when we’re still waiting for the promised breakdown of Jurassic World
What is it about Folding Ideas that you hate so much!? I think asking people to watch that film is considered hate speech. Actually forcing them to watch it is an internationally recognized war crime.
Loved the video! It's really cool seeing you revisit your past work and re-evaluate your previous assertions. It's just really neat intellectual honesty.
Me and my buds rented this shortly after it came out as we knew it bombed and wanted to make fun of it / see a bad movie. Jokes on us, we were equally bored and confused. The only fun we had was trying to guess which character is who in Street Fighter, including Chun Li, and failing miserably at that.
Raul Julia is the true M. Bison, OF COURSE!!! :)
I've never seen 95% of the films you talk about but still love this channel
I barely remembered watching you do this 3 years ago, now that you remastered it, I admittedly felt like I was cray- cray with a hint of deja vu
The thing with Bison giving Rose his goodness was that the good part of the soul controls and limits the power of the bad part of the soul which is why he did that; to gain great power. In the games anyway. He did it in the movies because he did it in the games. But he’s not filled to bursting with his psycho energy ki so what’s the point.
Every time I see you got a new video out my day just gets better. Thank you!
The only problem with this channel is that I've already watched every video
crouching pianist & hidden street fighter.....LMFAO. still laughing
I was listening to this video while drawing. Had to tab back in when you said (or I thought, at least), "...and talk for a second about gays."
Technically, that's what he was doing.
I think this movie had all the elements of a good story without changing much: she wants to be a pianist, bison threatens her father cause of a debt. Her first time as a pianist, her family gets killed by bison goons, she's distressed when told, ruins the concert, runs home, gets attacked by goons, barely escapes. Regular life is ruined. Her uncle Gen from Thailand calls her, gives her a place to hide. He's part of a secret organization that fights bison. Trains her so she can defend herself. Timeskip a few years of living in the slums. Now Bison is in Thailand, wants to buy up their place. She has an opportunity to fight back, interpool is also tracking Bison down, they work together, her uncle gets killed, Bison escapes, she joins the cops as a special agent because she knows bison well after years of going after him and can fight. You have an arc, a setup for future movies, parallels, easy peasy.
19:10 "The only thing that changes is the number of living parents and felony murders."
I giggled
This was so well done. All they had to do was keep her Interpol connection intact. and start from there and perhaps the script could have worked.
I think the problem is video game movies have a hard time conveying the player agency that game players enjoy and the setting and charachter building movie goers want. For example, if they made a movie about shovel knight, any emotions, feelings, and non-canon dialogue from the game may displease loyalists of Shovel Knight... And the lack of substance that would come from normal setting and plot building techniques movie enthusiasts / critiques want would not be there. Otherwise they try writing their own plot, or mess hard on basic cinematography techniques, or misread the expectation of what the charachter should be like....
street fighter 2 the animated movie was a fucking masterpiece.
if an anime can do it so can a live action movie.
I really like the street fighter animated 2 movie. But, alot of it is for the amazing voice performances, and the action sequences. The plot is fairly bare bones and does represent the game. But I have met people who criticize the plot. But I dunno. Considering they had members of capcom watch over production more closesly probably helped.
Agreed. I think the problem with them is that they don't need to exist. good video game stories are tailored to the medium of video games. As you said, they allow for agency. there is plenty of downtime to run around doing your own thing (sidequests, collecting, training, etc.) So their stories need to accommodate for it. What then is the point of making a movie adaptation of a game, which can only be an inferior experience, and begs the question of why we even need to experience these stories in a film when we already have the game. It made sense in the 90s when games were limited in how they could tell a story. But now, with HD gaming, why do we need a movie to tell a story that was made to be interacted with?
I would be interested in a movie that, rather than trying to tell a story from a video game that demands to be interacted with, they told a story that fits the medium. I've always been a little curious what would happen if they made a movie adapting, say, the First Contact War from Mass Effect's backstory. The setting has the lore to support it, the games already take a lot of inspiration from sci-fi movies anyways, and it's not a story that could be told well as a Mass Effect RPG with varying story branches since of course it has to end in a certain way. It could be a movie that exists alongside and complements the games, rather than trying to BE the games.
i think the reason they are bad is because studios know they can half-ass it because they already have a successful brand, so they can simply go thru the motions of a movie and make a profit without any genuine effort.
Hoho - watching a movie, and reacting to the decisions of the filmmakers, rather than the action on the screen - I felt that *so strongly* when watching Rambo (2008) :D
Within the first few kills, I went from following the story - to wondering what in the world could be going on with Sylvester Stallone
The art of (Blank) and the Atlas Shrugged Trilogy.
Super Mario Bros. is my guiltiest of guilty pleasure movies. I was, like, 12 years old when I saw it, and I still love it today.
That’s how I can understand all the love for Space Jam.
I'm going to ignore all the interesting stuff you said for 25 minutes and 13 seconds and say that video game movies actually peaked with Mortal Kombat in 1995.
And then again with advent children in 2005.
MORTAL KOMBAT! DUN DUN DUN DUN DUNDUN.
And the most awesome theme song was born
Silent Hill wasn't bad either. Or the first Tomb Raider.
the first resident evil was pretty good too
Wow I actually think I saw this movie when I was younger and this video essay has unlocked those repressed memories lmao
5:39... the sheer joy you take in the terribleness of the script is hilarious :D
your videos are absolutely amazing to watch and i love how you break down movies. thank you!
HOW TO MAKE A GOOD STREET FIGHTER MOVIE
1. MAKE BLOODSPORT
2. PUT STREET FIGHTER PEOPLE IN IT
Sadly, with Raul Julia passed away the greatest Street Fighter movie of all time can never be made now. They had their chance while he was still with us and flew so close to the sun!
HOW TO NOT MAKE A GOOD STREET FIGHTER MOVIE
MAKE A FATAL FURY MOVIE
@@drakkenmensch seems unnecessary.
Imagine a Rob Zombie’s Street Fighter film, based on Shadaloo’s DOLL-unit.
I feel like the most egregious part of this is how they go through all the effort of excising Chun Li's background as an Interpol agent and then they turn around and make a side character who is an Interpol agent with the exact same goal and character motivation.