Guilliman Learns of the Heresy from Lorgar | Warhammer 30K Know No Fear Excerpt (Spoilers, Duh)
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- Опубликовано: 7 фев 2025
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Damn, I do excerpts of angry Guilliman a lot it seems...
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"Our father... should have fed you to Russ."
Brilliant.
I got a feeling that’s what happened to either the 2nd or 11th legion primarchs…
“You’re lying!” - Guilliman
“You’re dying!” - Lorgar
This was the funniest part for me lol
Guilliman really said he should have fed him to Russ. Savage
Gulliman is a prime example of why you never push a good man to the breaking point
Gonna be a massacre when Gullimen sees him again or Lion or Corax
Nah he’s a weakling he’ll be crushed again by Fulgrim
Guilliman may be the least morally bankrupt primarch, but that does not make him a good man. He is still the architect of a thousand atrocities and fervent supporter of a mad tyrant.
@@charlottewalnut3118 Lmao cope harder snake fucker
Naaah, Gulliman is WIDE. Out of his armor he is WIDER than the Lion in his armor. You can see this in the art where The Lion visits Macragge. @@charlottewalnut3118
I love how Dan Abnett adds curses in his books. Especially in Primarch vs Primarch scenes. Just adds more life to his books. While others in even the siege would just write "cursed under his breath", Dan just goes full out.
Dan be like "F U C K"
@@thedyingmeme6 exactly....he doesn't give a F U C K about it. And I love it
They are just vulgar feces and genital words though, really displays atheistic limitations.
I agree. It makes sense too considering the emotional turmoil the characters are going through
Makes these genetically engineered monsters more human. Not saying gman isn't a G but if I saw a primarch irl I'd 💩
This scene becomes even funnier if you imagine Erebus, Kor Phareon and Argel Tal all in the room with Lorgar crying laughing but trying to keep quiet so as to not interrupt their dad whose prank calling some nerd.
XD The Word Bearers straight up recording the scene so they can laugh their asses off later.
@@randomcenturion7264 and then G-Man proceeded to kick their pathetic asses...man, I hope G-Man in 40k gets to kill Lorgar.
@@randomcenturion7264 I suspect that recording would make for bitter recording after Gulliman mde them fear.
This was exactly what I imagined. Something about Lorgar's mocking tone make me think he's glancing at them with Guilliman on speaker.
@@morgant.dulaman8733I love Ultrasimps. Y’all are always amusing to watch cope.
0:41 XD The non-chalant delivery of that was perfect.
"Well, yeah. I'm betraying you. Was that not obvious or do I need more dead Ultramarines to hammer the point home?"
You make Lorgar sound so fucking smug it's perfect.
It’s great cause rowboat girlyman was smug and condescending at monarchia, so lorgar gets to act smug when girlymans world burns
@@custarddemustard2769 lol didn't the author go out of his way to explain that Guilliman was not being smug at Monarchia?
@@s4bc Lorgar Imagined the smugness he's got Borderline personality disorder so most of that was imagined. He was trying to stop it from becoming even worse though Lorgar nearly started a war by hitting Roboute with his mace. Malcador called him out on it too.
@@Ragnarra That was the best part of the novel! It goes something like this: "Logar thought Robute Guilliman had looked down on hime for half a century, that the razing of Monarchia was something he took pleasure in. Logar declared war against the Ultramar System for this slight. But for all the revelation Logar took leasure in, he felt a tinge of fear and understanding. Robute Guilliman had never hated him. But he did now."
The only time I saw any primarchs act like actual siblings, except of Horus and Sanguinius. Every other time its feels as if they were brothers in symbolic sense, like as if they belonged to some order or military where everybody calls themselves brother.
True. There's a very, cruel pettiness that you can only find in a brother that feels genuinely hurt by someone he used to love dearly. And when that bitterness finally rises, it's horrifying and tragic.
That's the point, they were separated from birth and grew up without knowing the other exists. But even so there's still an undertone of genuine brother hood as they understand they're the only ones that are like them. There is definetly a certain kinship.
I like how Guilliman is about to say that Horus would never turn against the Emperor, but he hesitates as he's saying it. Deep down he knows that Horus could.
"Horus is rising! Horus is coming!" Ayo 🧐
I come here without having read any book except Ciaphas Cain, but i know a ton of the lore through youtube. I know that Guilliman is incredibly written in 40k, and that Lorgar is not very appreciated.
But damn in 30k, also with your interpretation, the text really depicts Guilliman as a rock, saying the same thing over and over again, while Lorgar seems intelligent, resolut, and well written, great dialogue from him. I really feels like he is going to kill Guilliman. The only bad thing imo is that he reveals pretty much everything, giving every traitor primarch name, like what ? Guve him your weakness while you are at it. This is the only dumb thing he does there. Great passage.
I really wonder if Lorgar thought that he could fooled anyone into believing that this wasn't for his grudge, no matter how many times he may deny it, no matter how grand the the wards his uses may be, no matter how the grand scheme he uses as an excuse, in the end everyone can see that Calth was the payback for Monarchia, Lorgar thought it would be the end but it was only the beginning
What a silly little small personal grudge, not like he burnt every city on khur(monarchia was the city imagine not reading first heretic) oh wait he did do that
@@custarddemustard2769 Refuse a direct order from the Emperor and see what happens. Best case scenario they'd call him 'Raw-booty' Guilliman; The Emperor would then have two cities to burn... at least the Ultramarines tried to evacuate the civilians, how many other Primarchs would have done that?
@@fabrikator-generalakhilley6896 Vulkan for sure and possibly sangunius or magnus. But I doubt Vulkan could have carried out the order and sangunius and magnus would have followed orders to a tee so the civilians would have probably been killed. Guilliman really was probably the only choice for such a task
It's made pretty obvious that Lorgar is a true believer, and his claims in the passages read in this video are very believable. Yes, it all started at Monarchia because that made Lorgar question his father's legitimacy as a being worthy of adoration. The entire heresy itself, though, was started because of true belief in the primordial truth, not just a grudge. He did admit that Calth had something to do with Monarchia, but that was just a side dish, as he explained to Guilliman. Either way, the Emperor and Guilliman deserved their fates, even if their only flaw was being fedora atheists.
Theres something viscerally hilarious about Lorgar insulting someone and calling them an asshole
Roboute asking Lorgar if he is high will never be not funny.
I cant wait until Guilliman fulfills his promise to Lorgar.
I imagine Corvus will help him; like Guilliman has him on the back foot, and Lorgar desperately conjures a portal to escape back to Sicarius. As he turns to run into it, a set of lightning claws bursts through his chest and back, tearing his spine to ribbons and forcing him to watch in horror as the Raven emerges from the Warp, so terrified by the look in Corvus’s eyes that he doesn’t even notice Guilliman approach from behind, readying a decapitating stroke. Then, as it finally dawns on him that he was little more than a puppet to the Gods, and meant no more to them than the lowliest Daemon, Guilliman brings the Emperors Sword down and severs his head in one stroke. His soul burns away to nothing as his sons look on in horror, breaking soon after once they realize that Lorgar isn’t just banished, he’s _gone,_ never to return to them again. Their “messiah” has been burned from the very fabric of reality, and their faith shatters like old glass at the knowledge of that fact. I imagine the Legion would either shatter completely into disparate warbands or join up with the Black Legion to find some measure of purpose in their lives again. Sicarius basically becomes a two sided battleground between Kor Phaeron and Erebus as they struggle to claim Lorgar’s place, not knowing that their isn’t even a legion to lead anymore. They both die fighting one another in a war that, regardless of who comes out on top, can have _no_ victor.
A fitting end
Even funnier knowing Lorgar failed to kill Gullimen and is hiding in the Warp afraid of having his ass whooped
He knows Corax would get his ass if he comes out of hiding
@@MrFredsttyup can’t wait for the Ls he gets right when he goes into battle again
There are three things to fear…
The sea after a storm.
A night with no moon.
And the anger of a gentle man.
Roboute Guilliman is - among other things - a gentle man.
So was Lorgar, that changed.
Poor Guilliman, trying to reason with a man who just wants to see the world burn waste of words.
on one side its probably pretty shit to be guilliman considering he just got told 3 of his brothers are fking dead and a majority of the living ones is gonna fuck you up
on the other side
horus and lorgar consider him one if not the only one to save their father and save the entire imperium
one has to respect that one
This is why he is the avenging son 🗿
"You HAVE lost your temper." -Lorgar
"Raw-boo-taaay"
I'll never get used to this
Here we see Logars past traumas come to the boiling point.
Replace Horus with Logar and The Emperor/Parent/Abuser with Kor Pharon and Erebus and you'll understand him some more.
Hes talking to Robute like his past self
I bet lorgar felt big when he said corax was dead
Nice semi retrobution after getting his ass handed only being saved by konrad of all people
Then being called pathetic by Konrad
3:03 "He's RISING, he's COMING".
:)
And then Guilliman scared the shit out of the Word Bearers by attacking them directly.
In space... without helmet.
Your gulliman is even better that the audiobook!! Lorgar isn't bad at all too!!
“There are three things all wise men fear: the sea in storm, a night with no moon, and the anger of a gentle man.”
Funnier thinking that Corax is in front of Lorgar’s shelter at this very moment and he is very much not dead and Lorgar is very much dead if he leave his palace
Nah he’s pledged to chaos now
Who? Corax? The man may be mutated as all hell, but he's still a loyalist.
Thats a long debunked myth based on a shitty interpretation of a small excerpt from Shadow of the Past. This was based during the Great Scouring, over 10,000 years(!!) before the current events. Lorgar and Corax are obviously doing different things at this point. Lorgar has left his meditations according to the 8th edition CSM codex.
I am glad to see someone else pointing this out, thank you.@@zonedoyestander
Logar is immortal
Gulliman hit those word bearers as if they call him "Rowboat Ghilliesuit"
3:02 he’s WHAT
it isn't calles Horus Heresy for nothing
He's Cumming
I could watch this scene a million times and laugh every time
Wasn't sure I could despise Lorgar more, but, here we are.
I love the should have fed you to Russ
love ur work sir
Awesome. Marvelous delivery.
Wordy bitch*s being punched headless in the void next, please ?
Hearing gulliman swear is shocking onto itself!
Vulcan lives
It takes ALOT to get Guilliman! but Lorgar managed to pull it off.
horus would have traded 3 lorgars for half a guilliman
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PLEASE!
READ US A GULLIMAN BOOK IN FULL!
Seconded!
I almost thought it was Fullgrim that Guilliman was talking to because of his insistence on how much Horus is "rising" and "coming".
😂
"He should have fed you to RUSS"
Lorgar really called Big E Humpty Dumpty 😂
Another banger from Curtis
Might be my favorite scene in the whole show
Really lorgar? Horus is coming? 🧐🧐🧐
Fulgrim- Yes brother, Horus is cumming.
Of all or most of the Deamon Primarchs Lorgar is the weakest and most foolish tbh
I watched the first few seconds by hovering over the vid and it said "Row booty" 💀
Ro-Boo-tey Gill-uh-Man, that is legit how it's pronounced.
Another great narration!
So...Horus is 'coming', eh?
People saying Girlyman's savage but Lorgar's sass at laying bombs on the state of their brothers is golden.
I don't know why, but always feels for me that Gullyball is being voiced by Doom Slayer it self. The hate is tasteful.
I'm glad you enjoyed the vid! Any lines in particular that you felt were best? (I'm currently doing a voice reel 😂)
This is great
"Horus is coming!"
Calth is an act of self defence
First WONNA FIGHT
Classic word bearer W
The exception proves the rule. This is the exception
*Ultramarines burn World Bearer world* had to be done, don't carry a grudge bro.
*Word Bearers burn Ultramarine world* IF THIS IS ABOUT OUR PUERILE OLD FEUD...
The absolute cope
One fucking city. Under orders from the highest authority in the Imperium. And even then, Guilliman let citizens evacuate before destroying Monarchia, despite being ordered to fire once in range.
@@malcadorsigilite6120 This was ghostwritten by the Spiritual Liege of the Ultracopes
@@eddymercan7487
Yes
Guilliman should have betrayed the Emperor at Monarchia, you are smart.
@@s4bc And what tell the Emperor of Mankind after gazing upon the citizens innocent to Lorgar's blatant stupidity to do it him damn self if he's that bothered by it? Despite everything its actually pretty clear Lorgar has borderline personality disorder to some extent (I originally thought he was bipolar or similar). I don't justify it but at that point if Guilliman just turned on the Emperor to save Lorgar it would have led to a series of unfortunate events whether it would have changed the fact Monarchia would have either burned by someone else or the planet it was on would have been subject to exterminatis. It would have ended very poorly for Lord Guilliman if he refused Leman would have been set on him, failing that his five hundred worlds of Ultramar...I dare not think of the punishments the innocent people would have to endure because of that.