Dr Kat Reviews Mary, Queen of Scots with Jamie
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- Опубликовано: 9 июл 2024
- Jamie and I took ourselves off to the cinema again; this time we went to see Mary, Queen of Scots. Here's what we thought of it...
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You two are adorable. You should appear together more often.
I’m Scottish and (obvs....) went to school in Scotland, and we were taught all about MQOS, as part of the Scottish secondary history curriculum. We were taught (this is in the 90s) that she most definitely DID suffer from porphyria. I’d never heard of it before and we were taught all about the symptoms and signs and which ones she had. I’m now a teacher in England, where MQOS is barely mentioned. Seriously. She never comes up. She’s not part of the primary history curriculum at all! So I teach my students, as an extra, who she is, and who ordered her beheading, and why, and why the English may refer to the current queen as Elizabeth the SECOND, to Scots like me, she is Elizabeth the FIRST. They’re usually blown away! Until I teach them, they don’t have a clue even that Scotland used to be an independent country entirely! It always kick starts an amazing class discussion and they always have so many questions, it’s wonderful. Truly wonderful. During times like those I feel very lucky to be doing a job I love. Your videos are fantastic and really help jog my memory about dates & events I had learnt a long time ago either in school or on my own (I’ve always been obsessed with history) which in turn, helps make me a better teacher for my pupils. Thank you Dr Kat!
Your country's teaching of local history is as bad as the USA. It's so washed and dumbed downed compared to how I was taught in the 80's and 90's. It just does a disservice to the kids. Thank you for going the extra mile!!
Ireland is just as terrible. We were taught nothing of WW1 or WW2. I mean nothing. Were also not thought anything about the troubles or before then. Were not thought about the great Irish leaders. Im not joking. Were thought all about the greeks & Romans but nothing of ourselves.... or the two World wars. I had to teach myself as an adult. It was never brought up. Like it never happened, hitler.... nothing. Its shocking!! They want us to forget our past. But know all about the greeks & Romans. Which is great, but I care more about my own Countrys History's obviously. Ireland has a Rich history, they thought us nothing.
Umm... Elizabeth II is NOT Elizabeth I of Scotland - Elizabeth II is queen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Technically, I suppose, you could make the argument that she is Elizabeth I of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, as this is a new kingdom created from the union of two others, but the naming convention is what it is (and is actually a royal prerogative - tested in court). Elizabeth II is no more Elizabeth I of Scotland than she is Elizabeth I of Canada or Jamaica. You're teaching children incorrectly.
@@Red1Green2Blue3 she is not teacher them that she IS Elizabeth I of Scotland but teaching them that some may refer to her as that
@@ferdinand6187 she's not. You're ignorant lol
I have never understood why movie makers take such artistic licence when making a historic movie! Why? History is seriously interesting. Mary Queen of Scott's was an interesting person. She did not need Elizabeth as a co lead. If they had used 100.00 to take say three different people interested on history who have read a book the story line would have been a movie worth seeing 10 times. Please Hollywood just take one it two historians to lunch and let them tell you a story.
Movies are a piece of art and therefore you cannot judge an artistic impression on it's historic accuracy. If you want to learn about history; go to school.
@@roddo1955 Nope. Historical movies have a responsibility to be historically accurate - that goes for the casting of them as well.
@@roddo1955 movies and tv may be art but don’t change the person you are making that art about it disrespects that person reign did that so much turning Mary from the complex person to a boring American teen and Frances into a hot stud who died saving Mary. When the truth was Mary probably came back to Scotland a virgin after her sickly husband died of an ear infection as his testicles where known not to have descended
@@PaulaSB12 Haha! Reign was such a soap opera! I couldn't bear watching passed the fourth episode. The Hulu show, the Great, about Katherine the Great of Russia, is a satire show that I personally love. It's worth the 8$ monthly price to watch the nine or ten half hour episodes they offer.
"It's very very dangerous to be a Queen at this time." That's the best line I've ever heard about that time!
Thank you for your view point.
The portuguese title of this film is "Two Queens", which I believe is a better fit to the movie since it is so keen in showing the differences and similarities between Mary and Elizabeth
This film is called "Two Queens", (=Kaksi kuningatarta), in Finland too. 😊
Dr. Kat is getting me through this quarantine. Just found her channel about a week ago. Kinda thrilled her husband is named Jamie...bc I too am a Jamie.
Lol....I wonder why? 😉
I love them together.
Blessed!! Dr. Kat I adore your glow!! I am a disabled veteran who has been to hell and back, in which your videos have flooded my pain receptors with pure happy and curiosity. God Bless You Both
This is the golden age of television. Hollywood cannot make a good movie anymore.
I totally agree Hollywood hasn't done well in awhile.
Well, it can be argued that Hollywood wasn't all that good to begin with - one of the most atrocious portrayals of Elizabeth I have seen was by Bette Davis, who for some reason spoke with a Cockney accent (Get out of me house!) and walked as if on stilts. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Private_Lives_of_Elizabeth_and_Essex
I believe the golden age of television was the 1950’s
I have not seen the movie yet but MQOS is one of my fave queens. She was queen of France and Scotland and even though she died in confinement, she won in the end because it was her son that became king and through her many lines descend.
Bit late on this, I know. I just found your channel within the last week and it's quickly become my favorite! Also love the husband cameo on this vid. 😊
My first introduction to Mary Queen of Scots was the 1971 film starring Vanessa Redgrave as Mary and Glenda Jackson as Queen Elizabeth I. I saw it on American television on PBS in the mid seventies. Although I don't profess to know its historical accuracy, I enjoyed it for the acting. After seeing Glenda Jackson in Elizabeth R, I knew I had to watch it.
Glenda in my mind was the most accurate Elizabeth
@@julieblackstock8650 No-one can do authority like GJ.
I just mentioned this version too. I saw it in the early 00's for the first time but remember it from childhood. It was a big deal.
@@julieblackstock8650 Glenda may be the reason some of us became elizabeth buffs in the first place. Helen and Cate are awfully nice too. #elizabethr
There are many History/Costume film buffs who love & remember Glenda Jackson as Queen Elizabeth I, but she has stiff competition in the form of Bette Davis who played the role of QE I twice in her long film career. One in 1939 called: 'The Private Lives of Elizabeth and Essex' opposite Errol Flynn. And in 1955 Betty does it again, beautifully, in 'The Virgin Queen' where she is portrayed in love with Sir Walter Raleigh (Richard Todd).
I see a resemblance in both narratives with the two more recent QE I films by Shekhar Kapur's [1998] 'Elizabeth' & 'QE I: The Golden Age'. [2007]
I enjoyed the movie as a movie. I wouldn’t recommend it without warning about serious historical inaccuracies.
It's worth seeing one time just because there aren't that many movies that depict Mary. But I couldn't help but think the whole time that the actress playing Mary should be playing Elizabeth.
The barn scene was a unique way to show communication through letters and beautifully shot.
On the low quality filming I kept wondering if the producers ran out of money.
I watched the movie with my mom who really found the Scottish accent distracting and overboard.
Thank you for the review.
Love your take on historical events. Your enthusiasm is infectious. A joy
Oof, I loved that face you made when he said “ok, as the history expert, what was wrong?” As another absolute history nerd, I family goes through that every time we watch something with even a fraction of historical basis. Also thank you for saving me from watching this!
Glenda Jackson is the best Elizabeth I 🙌 Elizabeth R is just incredible and I've been a fan of the series since I was 11 and I'm 24 now.
absolutely she was!
She actually reprised her role as Elizabeth in a 1971 movie, where Mary Stuart is played by Vanessa Redgrave.
@@xwiirastusx I have it on DVD but I still prefer Elizabeth R. The film isn't historical correct as they never met but still its lovely to see Redgrave and Jackson together 😊
The rolled paper is called Quilling and I think I remember reading once that it dates back to the 15th Century.
I love love love your channel! Binge watching all your videos this week!
The idea of Elizabeth and Mary meeting is probably thanks to Friedrich Schiller's play "Mary Stuart."
I love your videos!!! I’m so hooked, your take on history makes it so interesting. ❤️ ty for being so wonderful to listen to!!
That was good. Thanks.
I saw the film on a plane. I really appreciated how the Bothwell story line was handled vs how it was portrayed in the news of the day, and the way the Vanesa Redgrave version did it decades ago.
I too was put off by the idea that Mary would have spoken with a burr-my favorite of all European accents, besides YOURS or course. I am similarly put off when Marie de Guise is played by anyone other than a French actress. One day, I'd love to see Marie Antoinette and Isabela played by Germans.
Love this channel. I’m obsessed with the same period of you. So glad I stumbled upon you. Well done!
Wow! I've never seen the film and now I'm so glad I didn't. The two women did not meet in real life, that is a HUGE point! Ugh. Missing the mark on so many levels, based on your review. One of the reasons I read the book and ignore the film, most of the time.
Thanks for another interesting video. Nice to meet your hubby!
Great review! Hope to see more of them. Congratulations on your milestone for your subscribers. Look forward to watching many more of your presentations and reviews.
I actually did forget that I saw Mary Queen of Scots until I saw this review. Today is 6 May 2020.
The film is so annoying. Everything that bothered you and your husband, Dr. Kat, is spot on. I'll leave it at that otherwise I fear that I will go into a rant on the ineptitude of this filmmaker to the point of madness. All the falsehoods seemingly just to be "woke' ... what a waste of time, talent and money not to mention the historical inaccuracies which abound.
I'd love to see you, Dr. Kat, make an historical film! That would be awesome!
I didn't finish watching it.
I said the same thing. Lame movie. Has anyone seen the 2013 French film with the same name? I'd love to see it.
@@angelcitygirl I've tried watching the French film but as a film it doesn't work for me. I barely know 1 actress, the girl who played Fluer in Harry Potter. She plays Mary. I don't know any of the other actors and I just can't get into the film.
A very good film about Mary, Queen of Scots ( with the same title) is the one made in England in 1972 starring Vanessa Redgrave. It's historically factual as well as being a well made and entertaining. If you like historical fiction or Tudor themed stories Anne of a Thousand Days is an amazing film about Anne Boleyn and Henry VIII's relationship. Happy watching!
Yes, I saw this film ages ago too. Still can’t think of it without becoming irritated. I went with my daughter in a small country cinema in Victoria Australia. There were six of us in the place - all women. The current obsession with using actors of different ethnicities just to prove how fair, woke and non racist you are was a mistake. The four Mary’s were most definitely Caucasian. I kept muttering to my daughter all the way through it,”That’s not right.” The best things about this film were the costumes and the scenery. The most fascinating - the women’s hairdos!
What is your understanding of the word “woke”? Doesn't it mean ”to be socially and politically aware ” ? How does that describe the failings of this film?
Another job well done, Dr. Kat. A hardy welcome to Jamie to the group!
OMG, I am a new and most devoted fan. I am watching your videos and learning so much. I have traveled extensively in England, when I was younger, and loved their intriguing history. So cute to have your adorable husband with you. beyond cute. thanks for all you presentations. yeah! love, Maureen (yep, I am the child of an Irish immigrant). xoxo
I love this! Your combined knowledge of filmmaking and history is perfect for a review of an historical film. I haven't seen the film but if I do watch it I will be looking out for all the points you both raised. Thank you 🙂
Thanks, Dr. Kat and Jamie! I enjoyed seeing you both review this film.
You both are adorable together!
I just started watching your show!!! Love it. As a Anglo/Francophile I agree, worst movie ever! I will never understand why Hollywood changes history. I'd love to see you review "Rein" & "the Tudors" just as bad!!
I found it a fun movie but the, amateur, historian in me was constantly irritated. I dislike that it had so much potential and was just predictable.
If you're turning to Hollywood to see historic film you will be sadly disappointed every time. You see, they, politicians, etc seem to think the general public are a bunch of imbeciles, and you reward them by going to the theater to prove them right.
@@Dawn24Michele Hope springs eternal, I suppose.
@@freedpeeb Hope is and always was the greatest evil known to human kind!
That's how you know all Shakespeare's plays were tragedies. They all spoke of hope.
Because of the utter genius and humor of your comment I vote you person of the year!
Honestly, you should be person of the year. That was bloody genius.
This is soooo exciting Dr Kat and Jamie- I just watched this movie YESTERDAY! I went to your channel today to see what you had to say about Mary, Queen of Scots and found THIS. Live is just good, some days :-) (LOVE your videos - I will never catch up)
i love how the title says "with Jamie" instead of "with my husband"
Thank you! I was so disappointed by the movie's simplification of this rich material and you really illuminated that in a way I couldn't. I love your channel!
Thank you for this interesting review. I enjoyed hearing both your opinions on this film and learned quite a few things from it^^
You give a wonderful perspective, things I just wouldn't have thought of. Thanks from WA Australia
Hi Dr. Kat. Am really enjoying your videos. Thank you so much for posting them. From Canada!
Seeing the trailer made me know I did not wanna see it - but to hear you talk about it all just makes it sound even more dire than I had previously thought.
You have confirmed my suspicions. Great review. Thank you
U both did a wonderful job in reviewing, thank you🙂
Blood and Milk also seen in the opening scene of "Reign" (Netflix) O:)
"The expression “krev a mlíko” means blood and milk and refers to a healthy milk-and-roses complexion. It was often used to describe blooming, rosy-cheeked country girls bursting with health. ... Another way of saying a girl is pretty and bursting with health is to say “holka jako lusk” a girl like a peapod."
I learned so much about Mary, Queen of Scots from this video. Thank you so much!
It killed me that Mary had a Scotch accent! She was sooo French. It would have been impressive to hear Saoirse speak Gaelic with a French accent. She was still adorable... always adorable.
Exactly! It’s historically recorded that her mother requested that her governess ensure she *keeps* ‘her Scots tongue’, but that likely *wouldn’t* have meant a Scottish accent...
@@OcarinaSapphr- Mary was taught Scottish from the beginning though. She also learned other languages from a very young age.
Sadly there isn't much evidence she spoke Gaelic. Scots (which is very similar to English) was the language that would have been spoken by everyone in the Lowlands, which is where she was based (Stirling, Edinburgh, etc.). In any case, I think all accents in that period were very different from accents today, so I'm not sure if it matters what accent the film gave her. It helps audiences identify her as Mary, Queen of Scots. But I am glad they included some of her speaking French, and having French ladies.
It’s a Scots accent.
Scottish not Scotch.
Scotch is a drink.
@@humbleopinion7694 she îs y o.
What a fabulous couple! You are gorgeous together and obviously have great chemistry.
Excellent conversation and you two are adorable together.
Hello, Jamie! Thanks for the review, guys. Honestly, I will still see it because I'm a sucker for historical dramas, costume and those gorgeous shots you were both talking up.
Hi there Dr Kat love your videos. It’s now November 2020. I’d watched the previous one as bell ‘dinged’. Mary, Queen of Scots was on t.v last night so, as I said to my friend, I’d watch it to point out historical Accuracies ( something I do with the woeful Spanish Princess). I found your and a
Jamie’s comments hit the ail on the head. It’s a story that could , and should , have been able to stand on its own2 feet. Her formative years at theFrench Court are imperative to her story but - nothing. In my opinion it was a story about Elizabeth with Mary playing a lesser role. Just my opinion. May I say - the hairstyle they gave Mary at first! Oh dear. I’m sure the cultured , refined Mary would have balked at that. The difference between the elegant French court and the raw Scots court she came to must have been s tremendous shock! Thank you so much for your videos, I look forward to every Friday night. Hope Gabriel is growing and giving you and Jamie much joy. Enjoy, it flashes past so quickly - barely the blink of an eye. But you’ll remember every little detail for the rest of your lives. Thank you so much for your work, it’s greatly appreciated by so many people. You should contact Claire Ridgeway . You’d have a lot in common. Telling history in a fascinating way but accurately. Others do not! Thank you from a very hot rural South Australia . We made 45 degrees today! 🥵🥵🥵🥵🙏🙏🙏🙏🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
I think it's ridiculous that people judge her marriage to Darnley from the 20th century perspective. They met, they negotiated and they married. That's how it worked then. Mary didn't have the priveligous of Elizabeth kingdom, the money or the power. If you read the new John Guy's book the True Mary Queen of Scots - she was a savvy savvy player who has gotten the worst reputation that they could create, which means she was quite an epic queen.
Mary Queen of Scots was actually 6 days old when James V died
You made such an interesting remark about the influence of (the choice of) a husband or child for a queen (Mary versus the virgin queen) and wihy that could be dangerous. I would love for you to make an episode about the options royal women had and how those effected them. Love your channel.
Loved this review , the two of you are great together. I had SUCH strong and SUCH mixed views about this film, it's a perfect plane film - watch while drinking. Heavily. More please!
That's such a good way to put it - it is a perfect plane film! The discombobulating thing for me about the film was that it didn't deviate from the history in tangible ways (apart from the barn scene obvs) but it still felt like "spin".
Really pleased you liked the video - we're certainly up for doing more (even ones that are already out of cinemas).
'Mary Queen of Scots' is a great👌🏻 movie for a Drinking Game. Drink🍸 when ever you see👖demin. You be "plastered" in no time 😉🤣✌🏻
Late to the game as I just recently discovered this most enjoyable channel. A truly welcome educational entertainment during this pandemic. To the point I find many films placed within a historic context (events presented being of recent vintage or reaching back to more distant times) play loose and free with the "truth" it is widely accepted by reliable historians. Why mess with the real deal as it is usually as dramatic as the concocted variance? Thanks for the review. I never saw the film as the brief clip I did see back when it was first released didn't seduce me enough to pay good money to see the film. This despite my loving historical costume dramas, good acting and great cinematography. Dr. Kat and Jamie keep 'em coming.
Please please would you give the world a Dr Kat episode on Mary Queen of Scots in general if not more than one video on the subjects in the categories of:
1. Mary, her mothers' regency, her exile at the French Court, interaction with/threat of Catherine de Medici, childhood, marriage with Francis II, Cardinal de Guise, Elizabeth de Valois, Annette de Bourbon etc Her Four Mary's (Mary Mary quite contrary ... origins true?)
2. The Marriage to Henry Stewart (dangers of Matthew Stewart' dynastic aspirations etc.), the Kirk o' Field explosion (what/why/who), the Bothwell kidnapping/rape (was he responsible for the Kirk o' Field [?]), the forced marriage (was why did she [or anyone] not object - validity?), it was surely a solution to Protestant Lords as a husband and possible king - so why the divisions?
2.1 What was HE THINKING? Could he have got away with it?
3. Mary and The Church/The Anglican/Presbyterian Church; influence of personal Catholic conviction (red dress), Knox, her Catholic and Protestant Lords, The English Catholic.
4. Mary and Elizabeth, personalities' (was Mary really so emotionally/sexually gullible? = not likely, so why the behaviour?) cousins, neighbouring (anointed) sovereigns under the influences of William Cecil & James Stewart, Cecil's misuse of the Dearth Warrant (true, or not?), Babington plot (was she involved or not?) - the correspondence ... The Armada!!!
Rich stuff!!! Surely there is more detail than the standard schoolroom English History curricula have dished up thus far.
I would really like to have your insight on the whole Mary Stewart history ...
Thank you. Good analysis.
I fell out of love with Hollywood interpretations of history when I saw Braveheart... haven't seen this one and I don't intend to. The trailers did not seem promising and I've heard more negative than positive reviews. And the costumes for Mary... a queen... *sigh*
Hello Jamie, your wife is Wonderful. You are Super as well.Gods Speed to You Both💕💕
Surprisingly good review.... you got me - subscribed!!!
You are both a delight!
You two are wonderful!!!
Agreed so much with your points.
The thing for me that threw it all off a cliff was the costuming. The designers obsession with denim just... It didn't work.
Hi Dr Kat..what is your opinion on the show Reign?
I've recently seen this on Netflix and must say I loved it.
I am very, very late to this conversation but I didn't find your channel until a month or two ago. I love seeing you and your husband talking together. It's so wonderful to see two people who are so good together. I don't even remember this film being advertised but then again I may have just missed it because I don't have cable anymore. I don't know if you'll see this but if you do, I would love to see you and your husband discussing other things...if you can find something that you think is worth his time to be on here. Oh and I love your channel! Big hugs, k
The Scotts accent made me flinch whenever she spoke!
One of the best and fairest movie reviews I have ever watched! I am an avid reader of English history, so this was a must-see for me. I dragged my spouse to see it with me. My own review of this film would certainly have started similarly..."wow, this was beautiful to look at...the shots of vast, rolling green were spectacular...". And that's about where the good news would end. Mary Queen of Scots NEEDS to be fully explored in film. Her life was so eventful; I doubt most people know she was, in fact, married to a French king. QE1 overshadowed this story and it's a darn shame. I lectured my poor spouse on the way home about the almost-certain historical fact that there is no evidence that these two women ever met. Every film I've ever seen about the intersection of these 2 lives gets this wrong. A real shame...I'd say don't waste your time with this one...far more style than substance. Thanks for your channel...just found you and loving the great content!!!
I am glad I wasn't the only one who was displeased with this movie. There were so many nuanced to Queen Mary's life we could have seen. And it would have been good to hear a Scottish queen speak with the French accent she almost certainly used. I rented this movie on Amazon...so glad I didn't spend good money at the Cinema! Let the history tell the story..It's always more intriguing than poetic liscence.
This is such a great video! Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I agree, I thought it was very pretty, but I hardly remember the film unfortunately. Have you ever considered dissecting some episodes of The Tudors? I know there were a lot of creative liberties taken, but I absolutely love the show
I took one look at the trailer & refused to see it.
I don't go to ANY movies. Not giving Hollywood mucky mucks my hard earned money
Same!! I love history so much that historical movies have just let me down too much over the years, so I just don't watch them anymore.
Oh Wow. Didn't realize you did a film review. Just now came across it in Dec 2020.
Loved the format, loved the review. Please do more.
For that matter try weaving comments, commentary, or film reviews into your new, "Monarch Anonymous" video series.
Perhaps 'challenge' the 'monarchs perspective' or take on things by asking them or talking to them ab't how they're portrayed in film.
I really enjoy the rapport that is apparently between the two of you. It reminds me of the conversations I had with my own husband. I miss his intelligence. Stay safe and well and producing interesting content.
Hi Dr Kay, I recently watched the film (also made my husband watch it) and I was expecting the movie more about Queen Mary’s life. I agree with your review.
I have to admit, as soon as I heard Mary had a scottish accent, I didn't want to see it. A woman raised in France would have spoken with a french accent.
A Chinese Bess of Hardwick?
@@suepem I was confused as hell with that casting. Anymore one can't say anything remotely racist but historical accuracy is just a must in my opinion..
@@dkalbryte6774 Mary was taught Scottish alongside French.
And she was only five when she returned to Scotland.
@@N_0968 No she was 19 when she returned to Scotland.
The rise and fall of James V/James Stuart or the rise and fall from power of the daughter of Henry VIII and Anne Boleyn (Elizabeth I/Elizabeth Tudor, The Virgin Queen of England). The truth and the legacy of Pocahontas (The arrival of the Virginia Company and John Smith, the interactions of the Virginians and the Native Americans and the aftermath of there interaction) or lastly, the legacy of Sacagawea and the explorers Lewis and Clark.
Would you review The Favorite?
British history is so interesting! Thank you from Georgia USA
Sweet,,, enjoy this 👍
I think you nailed it with the Queen's dilemma it's why Elizabeth I is fondly remembered as not just as one of England's best queens but one of its best monarch but ultimately the royal family is descended from Mary. Simon Scharma nailed it perfectly Elizabeth was a consummate politician and very smart and Mary was a mother and a woman whose loyality was abused. People at the time said that 'twas a shame they couldn't marry each other (agree they would complement each other really well) and produce kids but in a sense they did - Great Britain is a legacy of both women.
Only found the channel about a week ago...its June 2020.. I'm endlessly fascinated in history so thank you! Your reaction to the film (which I confess I hasnt seen). But reminds me of how i felt when I watched the new Emma the other day, my sister paid apple tv $7 for it. Visually stunning...but the script! The casting! And weird bits they added. I know Austen is not history and I do love it when clever people play around with the characters.. like in the FAB Lost in Austen....BUT having the girls school walk around in red cloaks remimiscent of handmaids tale and Emma having a nose bleed when Mr Knightly declares himself.....well I wonder if the screenwriter and director read the novel or did any historical research...awful waste of time and money and gorgeous costumes....oh and thankyou for the link to A stitch in time!
thank you for relieving my fear of missing out
I agree. The part in the movie when Rizzio was killed, breaks my heart everytime.
Fantastic discussion. Why does Hollywood always deal with historical events with many inaccuracies? But I must say it makes me question and do research. Thank you Dr Kat.
I watched this film, but found some of the costumes out of context, especially the 1960's style hat that Mary wore in one scene, also the meeting between Mary and Elizabeth in some kind of bothy. which never took place, it is known that the cousins wrote to each other, and i seem to remember being told at school that Mary wrote several times to Elizabeth requesting a meeting.
I enjoy the review and agree with a lot of the points made. However, I loved this movie! But I love all Tudor / Elizabethian / Mary Queen of Scots stuff. I am so happy when any are portrayed. And I am a big fan of Saoirse. I did know that they were some historical inaccuracies, at least from what I know of history. But I have come to accept that that is part of any historically based movie, TV show, or book. I thought it was beautifully done. And would watch again in a heartbeat. Take care guys.
I love your passion
I really enjoyed your review especially the accurate parts you mentioned regarding the scenes that should have been storyboarded and then scrapped because some of the scenes were a little overdone. The movie was very subjective as to what the screenwriter and director wanted to focus on and other important parts of Mary's story were left out. Imo maybe the roles were miscast because Saoirse Ronan made a somewhat unsympathetic Mary despite the brutality she experienced in Scotland from the men around her. Margo Robbie made her interpretation of Elizabeth quite a bit more human and stole the movie away from Saoirse. So it became less Mary, Queen of Scots and more "Elizabeth, Queen of England and her cousin, Mary." Wonder how it would have turned out if the two actresses had switched roles? ☺ 👑
BTW, you are such a cute couple!! ❤️🌹. Maybe they should have called the Movie, Elizabeth I vs Mary or visa versa. I so agree BTW, that missing pieces between her arrest and death were missed opportunities in both Reign, and this movie, that part with the “casket letters” were left out. Is that because there’s not much known about that part or the Producers thought her being imprisoned for 20+ years would be boring to viewers but the pregnancy by Bothwell, miscarrying twins prematurely was indeed a missed opportunity for both films although Reign was prematurely cancelled and they had to cram the last bits into the ending.
I see also how you would think Mary would have a French accent being raised there but in the movie they found a true Scottish actress to play Mary. It’s a slippery slope to play the role of “Mary” being as she was raised by the French Court born from a French Mother yet truly Scottish but then in some films has an English accent.
I’m truly interested in seeing this film to see what (or not) is historically “accurate” as we know it.
I really don't know why the decision was made to ignore her imprisonment and plotting, particularly as we do know quite a lot about it (it's also fascinating and full of plotting and intrigue!).
We have letters (casket and otherwise) and we have accounts / reports detailing various aspects her confinement. My best guess is that the film makers felt it added to the tragedy to see this young and beautiful woman go to the block. Maybe they wanted to avoid having to make her look 44?
Again, I must let my pedant flag fly... Saoirse Ronan is Irish-American, born in the Bronx, but her Scottish accent sounded great to me as a Londoner (although I stand by my claim that it shouldn't have been there in the first place 😉)
Reading the Past I never thought about the Scottish accent being “bogus” too as in history. I agree, Mary would have been more French than Scottish and thus spoken as such. In the previews of the film with Saoirse Ronan she greets (I think her half brother) speaking French. Weird to me. I guess the Directors felt a Scottish by birth Mary should be played by a Scottish actress to add authenticity but in reality, she should have had a French accent. I read where Mary, Queen of Scots spoke 6 languages fluently. Interesting as well since she spent many years living in a convent away from being poisoned so they thought.
I just find her story and you telling it FASCINATING! All that happened to Mary and three marriages by the age of 22, I think. Then the other half of her life imprisoned until age 44.
I’d love a video if you could detailing the casket letters and intrigue. If you have already done one, I’d LOVE the link. Thank you!!!
I agree, Toni, that Dr. Kat and Jaime are a lovely couple. Thank you for your videos. The content is wonderful!
Saoirse Ronan is not Scots, she is American with Irish parents. Mary would not have had a french accent when speaking Scots, which was her first language, and as the film is set in Scotland we have to pretend that they are speaking Scots.
Charmaine Lamont ...Mary left Scotland at age 5, and did not return to Scotland until age 18. Her primary language was French, no doubt about it!
I read a novel years again called A Traveller in Time by Allison Uttley . It is about a girl who goes to stay at her Grandmother's manor farm which
I haven't seen Mary Queen of Scots yet. But have "Gunpowder Treason & Plot" with Robert Carlyle. If possible I'd like to know how that stacks up against the actual history.
You two are adorable!
Have you seen the same movie from 1970's with Redgrave and Jackson? How do they compare?
Have you ever gotten to see the Spanish Princess show?
Very enjoyable ❤️🇨🇦
Watched the film on Netflix. Glad I didn't pay for the theater. 💕 Y'all are so cute together.
When I saw the trailer depicting Mary queen of scots speaking with a heavy scots brogue, that was it for me. I think the Netflix (?) series of Mary’s life (although not complete) was much better although a lot of poetic license was used -more of a historical novel.
Do you mean 'Reign' that TV/Netflix [2013-2017] series?
Wonderful review (and very cute couple!💕)
How accurate is Elizabeth R, with Glenda Jackson?
The best part was the interaction between Mary Queen of Scots and John Knox. I would have liked to see a entire movie about that.
Regarding royal marriages where the wife is a queen regnant, one of the couples who managed to work it out was that of Isabel of Castile and Fernando of Aragon. Although Castile as a kingdom had several advantages over Aragon, a major part of the success, I believe, was that, early on, almost immediately after Isabel's coronation and Fernando's negative reaction to this, a strong, firm contract was drawn up, outlining the balance of powers between them ("Monta tanto, tanto monta, Isabel como Fernando"). Isabel had the power and confidence to be sure this contract was kept in force, and Fernando was intelligent and secure enough to understand the advantages of the marriage. There was, apparently, a very clear and mutual respect between them. Given, though, the English experience with Mary Tudor and Philip II of Spain was unfortunate and would have been instrumental in Elizabeth's decision to give herself to no one.
i enjoyed the video abouy history.
I enjoyed your review.
The film I rather liked but your insights gave me lots to think about