I tried SYOS but the first mouthpiece was so far away from what I wanted that it took 3 versions of alterations to start to get even slightly close to where I wanted to be and by then I'd pretty much ran out of tries to get it right. If the third mouthpiece was my first one then I think I might have gotten to where I wanted to. The service and communication was first class and they really wanted to help and didn't hesitate in giving me my money back.
I agree with what he says at 08:47 about the sound. My thoughts exactly. I returned the first one I had for that very reason. The sound lacks a certain degree of life. To me it's similar to the flat sort of sound you get from a plastic or synthetic reed. It's fine for gigging on up tempo type stuff where the subtleties of the tone don't matter, but I wouldn't record with it. I actually ordered a different Syos mpc though when they went on sale. They aren't bad and they feel great to play on, and they make altissimo and intonation a breeze... but the sound is just not a replacement for my rubber link.
I agree about the lacking something. I got a custom SYOS alto mouthpiece to try it. I normally play on a Selmer S80 C** as its the one mouthpiece I have tried that gives me the smooth sound I am after without sounding buzzy as most thin tip mouthpieces I have played usually do. I wanted to see if SYOS could make me a mouthpiece like the S80 C** but make it slightly brighter with a more free blowing, projecting sound as while I like the S80, I wanted slightly less resistance and playing a Vandoren AL5 while less resistant didn't quite have the sound I was after. I asked for the same 1.65mm tip which they said they'd do after initially saying it was going to be 1.80mm. It has a medium chamber. I also mentioned to SYOS that so far any thin tip mouthpiece I have played gives me a slightly buzzy sound but thicker tip mouthpieces like my S80 don't and that is what I want. When I got it, I noticed the around the circular part at the back of the mouthpiece shank where it fits onto the neck didn't look 100% as it looked like there is small gaps in the plastic in places but had no other issues. It had a good fit on my alto neck though and to get it to play in tune I had to put it half way on the neck, further back than any mouthpiece I have played. I play on Legere Signature reeds and when playing the SYOS, I had to go up 1/2 a strength higher than I normally play. I tried it with several ligatures including the one that it comes with to see if different ligatures change how if sounds/feels to play and they did but not that much although I did like my BG Duo gold lacquer on it the most, its more centred with a slight resistance. Playing it, I found its a good mouthpiece even if it looks and feels cheap. It is comfortable to play on and doesn't have the same vibration feeling on my teeth some hard rubber mouthpieces give me, its also really free blowing and for being so free blowing, I was surprised how it remained relativity easy to keep in tune, more so than my S80 which is more resistant. I found the sound a little buzzy with a kind of an ever so slight fizz/fuzz like sound. I read that is caused by the mouthpiece table not being smooth and you can get rid of that sound by having the table smoothed out. It felt though like the tone was too straight and lacked some depth/variation and I just couldn't get as smooth of a sound as I wanted and can get on my S80. The mouthpiece actually felt, sounded and played quite like my JodyJazz HR* C* or 5M as it has a thin tip and medium chamber and is very free blowing except it wasn't as hard feeling due to being made of plastic and I prefer the sound I get on the JodyJazz a little more. Very good mouthpieces, just not for me.
I found out about Syos last week and I am thinking of getting one of their mouthpieces at some point for my alto as its great you can customise it to get the sound you want. I like the colours they have, they certainly stand out over traditional mouthpieces. I like the sound you are getting and I like how you said its freeblowing. I was wondering if it would hold up to a hard rubber or metal mouthpiece since the Syos are plastic, but I am impressed. At the moment though, I currently use a Selmer S80 C** and I just ordered a JodyJazz HR* 7M to test as I am still trying to figure out what works for me first before spending more money than that on a mouthpiece as I have a slightly shorter bottom jaw than top jaw so certain mouthpieces may not work as well for me as others.
Dan. Thanks for sharing, you sounded great. I just got one of these a few days ago. I selected the custom option and modeled my mouthpiece off of the Eddie Rich sample but with a little more power and brightness like Chad Leftkowitz-Brown. I've been sidelined with a sprained tendon in my left hand, but I hope to try it out this weekend. I think the color you picked was great; I picked abyssal blue with a matching ligature.
Wow Dan, that thing sounds amazing. I already like your sound but to my ears that got it to another level. I was tempted the other day and got to the payment and bottled it due to not hearing one. Now my mind may have been turned. Keep up the good work and let's hope they can solve the nerve damage 👍
Hello Dan, How does the mouthpiece respond in the altissimo range? I love your comment about how the design nails intonation, a common difficulty on vintage horns. Also could you comment further regarding resistance. You mentioned it is very free blowing but does it provide enough resistance to mould your sound? Cheers!
Hi. Dan Good stuff. I did buy your model Syos and love it. Cant say enough good about the folks at Syos. Question, have you tried the Legere reeds on the Syos ? Would be nice to see your impression
A bit of a cleaner sound than your normal mouthpiece piece but you sound like you it sound free to blowing so cool thanks for sharing.Still wishing you best wishes have a great day.
Hi Dan....sounded really nice. Love the vuvu stuff!!! Seems the brand is living up to the hype. Nick Mainella just posted his review on Syos today and he also had some very nice things to say about his piece.
You are achieving excellent tone from the mouthpiece, but I have to wonder about the ligature. I am used to ligatures with a screw to tighten the ligature around the reed. Do you think that a non-adjustable ligature has any advantage over the conventional ones? I wonder if they will last well over a period of years.
Hi Dan, sounds great, what parameters did you set in the Syos shop for your tenor mpc? I see that they are ordered on a scale from dark to bright and a power scale. Cheers
Just found it Dan, on your equipment page. Brightness 3.7 Power 7.5 Really interesting when you said it might be a little brighter than you were expecting, cos I was playing on the Syos site with options varying from 3.0 to 3.5 brightness and 6.5 to 7.0 power. So I might split the difference and go for a 3.3 brightness and 7.0 power
Nice vid. I thought they were a bit gimmicky (like the plastic altos) but I’m now starting to change my mind. I think it is darker than your normal mpc. Not sure I’d play it on a gig - it’s red and yellow!
@@pimeye Thank you for reaching out! Please do write an email to customer service letting them know : contact@syos.co - we'll send a brand new one that fits asap
I tried SYOS but the first mouthpiece was so far away from what I wanted that it took 3 versions of alterations to start to get even slightly close to where I wanted to be and by then I'd pretty much ran out of tries to get it right. If the third mouthpiece was my first one then I think I might have gotten to where I wanted to. The service and communication was first class and they really wanted to help and didn't hesitate in giving me my money back.
Because it costs them literal pennies to print a new one
Daro Behroozi is the lucky chops saxophonist and Clarinetist
Madden Mobile Kings he is soooooo good
I agree with what he says at 08:47 about the sound. My thoughts exactly. I returned the first one I had for that very reason. The sound lacks a certain degree of life. To me it's similar to the flat sort of sound you get from a plastic or synthetic reed. It's fine for gigging on up tempo type stuff where the subtleties of the tone don't matter, but I wouldn't record with it. I actually ordered a different Syos mpc though when they went on sale. They aren't bad and they feel great to play on, and they make altissimo and intonation a breeze... but the sound is just not a replacement for my rubber link.
I agree about the lacking something. I got a custom SYOS alto mouthpiece to try it. I normally play on a Selmer S80 C** as its the one mouthpiece I have tried that gives me the smooth sound I am after without sounding buzzy as most thin tip mouthpieces I have played usually do. I wanted to see if SYOS could make me a mouthpiece like the S80 C** but make it slightly brighter with a more free blowing, projecting sound as while I like the S80, I wanted slightly less resistance and playing a Vandoren AL5 while less resistant didn't quite have the sound I was after. I asked for the same 1.65mm tip which they said they'd do after initially saying it was going to be 1.80mm. It has a medium chamber. I also mentioned to SYOS that so far any thin tip mouthpiece I have played gives me a slightly buzzy sound but thicker tip mouthpieces like my S80 don't and that is what I want.
When I got it, I noticed the around the circular part at the back of the mouthpiece shank where it fits onto the neck didn't look 100% as it looked like there is small gaps in the plastic in places but had no other issues. It had a good fit on my alto neck though and to get it to play in tune I had to put it half way on the neck, further back than any mouthpiece I have played. I play on Legere Signature reeds and when playing the SYOS, I had to go up 1/2 a strength higher than I normally play. I tried it with several ligatures including the one that it comes with to see if different ligatures change how if sounds/feels to play and they did but not that much although I did like my BG Duo gold lacquer on it the most, its more centred with a slight resistance.
Playing it, I found its a good mouthpiece even if it looks and feels cheap. It is comfortable to play on and doesn't have the same vibration feeling on my teeth some hard rubber mouthpieces give me, its also really free blowing and for being so free blowing, I was surprised how it remained relativity easy to keep in tune, more so than my S80 which is more resistant.
I found the sound a little buzzy with a kind of an ever so slight fizz/fuzz like sound. I read that is caused by the mouthpiece table not being smooth and you can get rid of that sound by having the table smoothed out. It felt though like the tone was too straight and lacked some depth/variation and I just couldn't get as smooth of a sound as I wanted and can get on my S80. The mouthpiece actually felt, sounded and played quite like my JodyJazz HR* C* or 5M as it has a thin tip and medium chamber and is very free blowing except it wasn't as hard feeling due to being made of plastic and I prefer the sound I get on the JodyJazz a little more. Very good mouthpieces, just not for me.
I just took the test on SYOS and got a 90% match for your mouthpiece! Just ordered & very excited!
I found out about Syos last week and I am thinking of getting one of their mouthpieces at some point for my alto as its great you can customise it to get the sound you want. I like the colours they have, they certainly stand out over traditional mouthpieces. I like the sound you are getting and I like how you said its freeblowing. I was wondering if it would hold up to a hard rubber or metal mouthpiece since the Syos are plastic, but I am impressed.
At the moment though, I currently use a Selmer S80 C** and I just ordered a JodyJazz HR* 7M to test as I am still trying to figure out what works for me first before spending more money than that on a mouthpiece as I have a slightly shorter bottom jaw than top jaw so certain mouthpieces may not work as well for me as others.
Dan. Thanks for sharing, you sounded great. I just got one of these a few days ago. I selected the custom option and modeled my mouthpiece off of the Eddie Rich sample but with a little more power and brightness like Chad Leftkowitz-Brown. I've been sidelined with a sprained tendon in my left hand, but I hope to try it out this weekend. I think the color you picked was great; I picked abyssal blue with a matching ligature.
Dark Behroozi is the tenor sax player for Lucky Chops. He’s played on syos pieces for a while. Love your vids man!
Wow Dan, that thing sounds amazing. I already like your sound but to my ears that got it to another level. I was tempted the other day and got to the payment and bottled it due to not hearing one. Now my mind may have been turned. Keep up the good work and let's hope they can solve the nerve damage 👍
Cool concept for sure ! See they are in Paris by their website and take personal visits for a custom fitting. Gotta go check them out ! Thanks Dan
Hello Dan, How does the mouthpiece respond in the altissimo range? I love your comment about how the design nails intonation, a common difficulty on vintage horns. Also could you comment further regarding resistance. You mentioned it is very free blowing but does it provide enough resistance to mould your sound? Cheers!
I just bought the mornington Lockett, Can’t wait to get it.
Very nice sound Dan. I can hear the ease in which you're playing. Softly is what I hear also.
Wow sounds totally sound......really good blue note ish ...impressive.....
I am buying one this week
What brightness, power, and opening is this? What reed are you playing with it? You sound great
There’s a link to the mouthpiece on the Syos website where everything is explained. You can also go to Syos’ website and order the piece
Sounds really good Dan. I have three and love them!
Hi. Dan
Good stuff. I did buy your model Syos and love it. Cant say enough good about the folks at Syos. Question, have you tried the Legere reeds on the Syos ? Would be nice to see your impression
A bit of a cleaner sound than your normal mouthpiece piece but you sound like you it sound free to blowing so cool thanks for sharing.Still wishing you best wishes have a great day.
Awesome! Please provide the specs, want to purchase
Dan, I'm curious what SYOS options you selected on this piece?
I love the sound of your mouthpiece. I might wanna get one for myself with maybe a slightly smaller tip opening. Is the mouthpiece good for altissimo?
Subscribed great videos
Hi Dan....sounded really nice. Love the vuvu stuff!!! Seems the brand is living up to the hype. Nick Mainella just posted his review on Syos today and he also had some very nice things to say about his piece.
A very impressive sounding piece - even though it looks kinda cheap.
It is cheap, they use fdm printers with pla filament.
do they allow you to return and adjust if you've bought one of their pre-designed mpcs, or is that exclusively for the customs?
I am thinking of getting one, so much talk about them. Where to start. .? I will go to the website
Wow, nice I have e mailed them before I am serious nowand after hearing that
You are achieving excellent tone from the mouthpiece, but I have to wonder about the ligature. I am used to ligatures with a screw to tighten the ligature around the reed. Do you think that a non-adjustable ligature has any advantage over the conventional ones? I wonder if they will last well over a period of years.
What strength reed are you playing and name
Hi Dan, sounds great, what parameters did you set in the Syos shop for your tenor mpc? I see that they are ordered on a scale from dark to bright and a power scale.
Cheers
Just found it Dan, on your equipment page.
Brightness 3.7
Power 7.5
Really interesting when you said it might be a little brighter than you were expecting, cos I was playing on the Syos site with options varying from 3.0 to 3.5 brightness and 6.5 to 7.0 power. So I might split the difference and go for a 3.3 brightness and 7.0 power
Did Syos let you keep the mouthpieces?
Nice vid. I thought they were a bit gimmicky (like the plastic altos) but I’m now starting to change my mind. I think it is darker than your normal mpc. Not sure I’d play it on a gig - it’s red and yellow!
You can still get it in black if you want ;)
Black is boring 😂😂😂😂😂
@@Syosmusic I got one in your sale but can’t use it as it is too loose around the cork but my other bari mpcs fit perfectly
@@pimeye Thank you for reaching out! Please do write an email to customer service letting them know : contact@syos.co - we'll send a brand new one that fits asap
That is what I would call a McDonald's mouthpeice
Hi Dan what are the specs on your mp?
I like the mellow dark sound. I also use a Link. Do they (SYOS) also make them for alto?
Hi Rob! Yes of course we also make alto mouthpieces!
Bin the Link!
Sounds good but looks like shit