10:50 minor misplay, scurry oak has evolve, so if you play it first then the 2/2 voice you will trigger evolve make a token and the voice sees the same number of lifegain triggers but you are up 4 life and don’t have to block with the scurry oak to like
Not just up 4 live, but also have that squirrel as a blocker. Might have actually made the opponent fragment the oak instaad of the voice, knowing that it wasn't needed as a blocker to survive and could just combo off next turn probably.
Fun video Seth - remember you can press spacebar to confirm your heliod and rosie counter triggers. Makes your combo faster and helps prevent a decline misclick.
As a free to play player on arena I like a lot about this decklist as a budget deck: Most of the rares are staples so it doesn't feel bad to craft them even if I end up not playing the deck that much. It's (at least partly) based around an uncommon from the new set. This is nice since it takes me a while to draft rares/mythic rares so I usually don't like spending my wildcards on stuff from the newest set right after it comes out. It's nice to have decklists that let me play something new without having to spend my rare wildcards on stuff from the newest set. I know "budget" means something different for everyone now, but I'd love to see more budget magic like this!
It is a bit weird since the common advice for wildcards is to spend them on rare lands first so if you're doing the "correct" thing this style of budget deck that dumps the manabase would be backwards for those people.
Been piloting it for almost a week. Hate to say it, half expect a nerf or ban. Increase scurry oaks cmc by one would severely nerf it, no more coco or the white coco
Not too bad Seth! A few days ago I made the deck too but got the budget as cheap as it can go (and still work) at just 8 rares! Rosie is an all star and a great uncommon!
@@MTGGoldfishthe Rares were 4 copies of Voice of the Blessed and the 4 Cocos. My ver has 32 creatures and 24 lands but the heliod replacement was annex sentry as light removal and it's toughness does trigger Scurry oak if you need to get the ball rolling.
"Squirrel's don't care about removal, they just care about nuts." -Seth "Probablybetterknownassaffronolive" ___ (2023) This made me laugh at work, thank you.
So I made this deck, and I got my Scurry Oak to 69 counters on him, game passed to my opponent who was playing Treasure Hunt zombies, and then I dealt -243 damage to my opponent, amazing deck, I love it a lot. Thank you Seth, you the man!
I ran into a variant of this deck in ranked, and they only made 8 squirrels. I was running Mono B Devotion. Moral of the story is never assume you have enough squirrels.
I do wish it wasn't so time consuming to go through the loop, it's hard to go truly infinite on Arena just because you'll run out of patience eventually, but only making 8 is just sad. Why even play the combo if you are going to stop at 8?
@@MTGGoldfish Arena makes some things easier, like counter management and token tracking which I love about it... But not being able to just say "I repeat this loop 200 times" and have 200 squirrels and life is a huge drawback for Arena. Having to worry about playing against the clock as well as a player stinks. It truly is a tough life for the Against the Odds players of the world 😔👌🏻
I've played the pre-rosie version of this deck in literally thousands of arena matches now. The number to make is usually their life total plus their blockers plus about 3ish, unless you have multiple soul triggers and can make fatal attackers this turn, in which case it's enough to make each of your attackers individually fatal, or unless you have trelesara on the board and need to dig for a removal spell, in which case it's enough scrys to find what you're looking for.
The thing I dislike about lifegain decks in Arena is exactly what you mentioned here. Even if I have the answers to the payoffs, the rest of the deck just draws the game on with more and more life. And if I don't have the answers, it still can't kill me very fast. So whether I do things right or not, the game is longer than it should be.
I don't like it because you can force opponents to concede due to too many triggers in the stack regardless of if they have answers or not. It's scummy to use in arena ranked just to force through wins due to technical bugs.
God I love Seth’s videos. And I will never call anyone out about a punt during gameplay. BUT music punts are a different story! It’s hammer time at 23:59 , but Seth is humming Vanilla Ice. Never change Seth, you rock.
Rosie also goes around hushbringer effects. It might be good to have a couple of cards that make an opponent lose life in the sideboard for the one ring.
Why not Yotian Dissident and Peregrin Took? They go infinite well, and are less recognized as combo pieces, giving you more surprise power. As well, even if the opponent has a wrath, you can draw your deck to set up for the next combo. And BONUS: both are Uncommons. and BONUS 2: They actually are decent cards in the deck individually.
10:46 I would have started with the scurry oak there, it's obvious what you're playing already, they might deal with it immediately, but if they had a burn spell that could, they would probably have domed you with it. a naturally 2/2 Voice of the Blessed after the 1/2 Scurry Oak there evolves it fairly, giving you a squirrel token, which nets you 4 more life (12 total) and pretty much the same counters on Voice - and if it didn't work you're probably dead either way. 100% misplay after seeing you still play the scurry oak after. 4 more life and an extra 1/1 body would definitely have put you in position to keep the scurry oak (12:10) or would have forced them to fragment the oak to remove it instead of the voice, since you could have blocked and kept the oak, and he doesn't want you comboing next turn, either way you come out in a better position.
One big thing missing from this budget list that wasn't mentioned is the singleton Ajani that's been in the previous non-budget versions. It's the key to winning the mirror matches, and is our only out for a lot of other niche situations. It's the board wipe we need against any of the decks that flood the board like elves, devotion, etc, and it's multiple threats against the control decks. I think it's right to play it over one of the reconstructions here.
Nice! I've found Rosie Cotton strong across formats: draft, constructed, and even Historic Brawl. I made a Historic Brawl vid on my channel with Rosie at the helm and she was incredible. I'm tempted to build it in paper now.
@@priorityholderit’s mostly a food deck that just happens to run a lot of halfings. But it’s been surprisingly good at sneaking out wins from opponents.
@@andrewbedwell8186 Interesting, are you using a Collected Company or Kaya's Restoration shell? I tend to focus on Explorer and have been toying with the idea of Rosie Cotton and/or Food.
13:36 graveyard hate is a good side agaisnt the izzet wizards deck, particularly after seeing those snapcasters and Lurrus as the companion, I might have brought in a relic or two
I played against someone playing this deck earlier today and was wondering where it came from. Unluckily for them i was playing a turbofog deck but it was still super cool to see
27:30 if its any consolation, you were dead even without the shadowspear. They just have to put belt back on ornithopter. I was never an alchemy hater but when they make all these perpetual cards and make them super broken, that is when it bugs me.
That first match is exactly why I always loved the first deck I built. It was an angel deck built to make tokens from life gain. Because it was made to gain life though it made it hard to finish off because no matter how hard I got hit I could easily gain a half a dozen to a dozen if not more my following turn.
Something paper has over MOTO and Arena is the power to say to your opponent "I can do this indefinitely unless you can stop me. I'll choose to do it, how about, 100 billion times." after showing the combo and how it works. Your opponent saying "okay" or "response to X" and the both of you saving time. It will be great when ether program can speed up these mass counter/life/token gain.
I'm still not sure what to do with Historic. I mainly play limited then build Historic Brawl decks and maybe a couple Standard or Pioneer decks per set release. Lord of the Rings has been fantastic, but then I see the Strixhaven draft chaff I'm familiar with that have been edited into a busted wizard deck, and they feel like fake cards. Add that to the digital-only cards, and I don't see myself doing anything with my LotR cards outside of Historic Brawl, where I can opt out of playing six-sided cards or whatever.
Kind of giving off an elitist/purist vibe with this. If you don’t like something it’s beneath you and chaff or fake. If it’s what you play then it’s great. Broaden the horizons a bit. I play a 2015 modern abzan deck in historic …because it’s fun. Siege rhino, Goyf, Liliana, Thoughtseize, Lingering Souls etc.
@@jakecollin5499 Play what you enjoy. I draft and then casually build for multiple formats, which makes errata'd cards annoying. I also have a Mac which doesn't play nice with clicking through spellbooks and Specialize cards, or support Modo on the native operating system. Didn't have the money to get into Modern since I took time off when the staples rose in price, so telling people to just play Modern gives off some "elitist/purist vibes," imho.
I had a cool idea of using lonis with them for a token style deck instead of focusing on lifegain, but for some reason investigate doesn’t trigger her on arena rn Was a bit irritating to learn
I think it was a misplay to scry the lands to the bottom in game 1, because if you had kept the you could have played rosie and the oak at the same time and being able to combo if they didn’t hold up interaction.
The the scurry oak combo you can play rosie first. You just need to play a 2/2 or bigger afterwards playing a rosie, letting it sit and then using the 5 mana to play oak then trelissara
An interesting green card for some infinite green mana after finishing your combo with Rosie and scurry oak would probably be circle of dreams Druid. It lets you tap for green mana equal to how many creatures you control
More content like this please! I’m sure there are lots of people like me who are excited for these LotR cards but desperate for anything to do with them in Arena beside going broke drafting.
Beat the full price version of this deck with my mono-red goblins deck. Opponent roped themselves dealing with the triggers and having 68 life when the rope ran out wasnt enough
I feel bad for the wrists moving back and forth from scurry oak to the make a squirrel confirm trigger…just press spacebar to confirm and leave your mouse on the oak for max efficiency
22:23 no, the only way to not win here is if you misplay. They are tapped out and your double combo means you can make your other creatures infinitely large, all you have to do is swing with two 8/8 soul sisters for the win (or one 17/17) this turn. And of course you did make the misplay XD
Every time I try to watch Seth play Historic, I’m left just thinking ‘why?…why play with/against fake cards with ridiculous text like perpetual?…’ Well, I tried. Looking forward to your next video.
While its not too bad in this video, does anyone else find it slightly offputting when Seth complains about the mana base in Budget Magic videos? I understand that its a weak point in a lot of decks, but I feel that it should either be: 1. Run with thr best mana available but provide a decklist with cheap mana (especially on Arena where people will generally spend wild cards on lands anyways) 2. Just try extremely hard to not mention the problems with the manabase, at least until the wrap up. I get that it affects games sometimes, but I feel that saying your budget manabase is bad because you're on a budget is kind of silly. Like saying "I'm so hungry" because you didn't eat, but you didn't eat because you're on a diet. It's a self-inflicted thing that will impact the games, that's the point.
Hopefully I wasn't complaining too much, that's something I try to avoid, I can't help but meme on the snarls a bit though, just because I find that land cycle so hilariously bad (although honestly, now that they are uncommons that are pretty great for budget).
@@MTGGoldfish I totally get it, and it wasn't bad in this video at all. It's mostly in modern/pioneer when they're playing shocks/mana confluence/fetches and you're stuck on tap lands. After the first match or so the viewer gets the idea that your manabase isn't going to be as good 😂 Still love the content though! Maybe I just have a preference for Against the Odds or Much Abrew haha
24:55 squirrels dont care about removal, squirrels only care about domination. screw the phyrexians, squirrels are the true multi-planar threat, and now that a giant tree has opened all the planes....
33:06 you couldn't run out the soul warden first, you didn't have the treasure since Innkeeper made it when he came in off CoCo, If you ran out the soul sister, you wouldn't have had the mana for CoCo.
I just have to wonder: Why Fortified Village? If you have the rares for exactly one playset of rare duals, why choose the one that you have explicitly said you hate the most, and which is the worst, in a format where real prices don't matter, when you could be playing fast lands or shock lands or... anything else?
On Arena Fortified Village is actually an uncommon because of Shadows Over Innistrad Remastered. As a rare land Fortified Village and the rest of the snarls are horrible, but as uncommons they are actually pretty solid budget lands.
Historic is so lame, that Hammer Time deck is just unfair having better cards than the Modern version, especially when some of them dont even exist in paper
would walking balista not make this deck more consistant? Helios with it can go infinite instead of 3 piece combo and can also be hit off of collected company? maybe worth idk
Historic isn't Modern, it has its own very weird power level and the ability to instantly nerf any card via alchemy readjustments. If Rosie's too good, they could just make her say "only once per turn" or make her cost 4 so you can't hit her off CoCo.
The issue with splinter twin wasn't the combo, the issue is that the rest of the deck would kill you turn 4 even without it. It was too powerful and way too consistent to be left as it was.
I think the top of the heap in Modern just eats this deck alive. Modern is an extremely hostile format for synergy-centric creature decks at the moment - all the top decks have tons of interaction. This deck curves out straight into a turn 3 evoked-Fury-as-Wrath-of-God and any deck that does that is effectively non-viable in current Modern.
Decklist: www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5690842#paper
10:50 minor misplay, scurry oak has evolve, so if you play it first then the 2/2 voice you will trigger evolve make a token and the voice sees the same number of lifegain triggers but you are up 4 life and don’t have to block with the scurry oak to like
Oh, good call. I totally missed that.
Not just up 4 live, but also have that squirrel as a blocker. Might have actually made the opponent fragment the oak instaad of the voice, knowing that it wasn't needed as a blocker to survive and could just combo off next turn probably.
I was just about to mention that as well 😅
Samwise Gamgee + Cauldron Familiar + a free sac outlet is another fun new infinite combo in historic!
That's one we're going to play in Modern!
Fun video Seth - remember you can press spacebar to confirm your heliod and rosie counter triggers. Makes your combo faster and helps prevent a decline misclick.
Thise triggers require targets, and cant be confirmed that way, you can confirm the may on scurry oak's trigger like that however.
As a free to play player on arena I like a lot about this decklist as a budget deck:
Most of the rares are staples so it doesn't feel bad to craft them even if I end up not playing the deck that much.
It's (at least partly) based around an uncommon from the new set. This is nice since it takes me a while to draft rares/mythic rares so I usually don't like spending my wildcards on stuff from the newest set right after it comes out. It's nice to have decklists that let me play something new without having to spend my rare wildcards on stuff from the newest set.
I know "budget" means something different for everyone now, but I'd love to see more budget magic like this!
Budget on Arena is tricky, I'm glad this one works!
It is a bit weird since the common advice for wildcards is to spend them on rare lands first so if you're doing the "correct" thing this style of budget deck that dumps the manabase would be backwards for those people.
Scurry oak having copies 5-7 of coco is a bit scary
Supposed he isn't playing coco in here (collected company)
@@zigzag2370There’s four collected companies right there in the deck tech.
A bit scurry
Been piloting it for almost a week. Hate to say it, half expect a nerf or ban. Increase scurry oaks cmc by one would severely nerf it, no more coco or the white coco
Not too bad Seth! A few days ago I made the deck too but got the budget as cheap as it can go (and still work) at just 8 rares! Rosie is an all star and a great uncommon!
Nice! I assume you weren't playing Heloid or Voice of the Blessed?
@@MTGGoldfishthe Rares were 4 copies of Voice of the Blessed and the 4 Cocos. My ver has 32 creatures and 24 lands but the heliod replacement was annex sentry as light removal and it's toughness does trigger Scurry oak if you need to get the ball rolling.
"Squirrel's don't care about removal, they just care about nuts."
-Seth "Probablybetterknownassaffronolive" ___ (2023)
This made me laugh at work, thank you.
So I made this deck, and I got my Scurry Oak to 69 counters on him, game passed to my opponent who was playing Treasure Hunt zombies, and then I dealt -243 damage to my opponent, amazing deck, I love it a lot. Thank you Seth, you the man!
I ran into a variant of this deck in ranked, and they only made 8 squirrels. I was running Mono B Devotion.
Moral of the story is never assume you have enough squirrels.
(I would have lost if they made like 20 squirrels, they just...didn't? Probably didn't want to keep clicking when I appeared dead on board)
I do wish it wasn't so time consuming to go through the loop, it's hard to go truly infinite on Arena just because you'll run out of patience eventually, but only making 8 is just sad. Why even play the combo if you are going to stop at 8?
@@MTGGoldfish Arena makes some things easier, like counter management and token tracking which I love about it...
But not being able to just say "I repeat this loop 200 times" and have 200 squirrels and life is a huge drawback for Arena. Having to worry about playing against the clock as well as a player stinks. It truly is a tough life for the Against the Odds players of the world 😔👌🏻
@@MTGGoldfish It could always be worse, I play Acererak combo in explorer. That is the true "please just scoop for me opponent" deck.
I've played the pre-rosie version of this deck in literally thousands of arena matches now. The number to make is usually their life total plus their blockers plus about 3ish, unless you have multiple soul triggers and can make fatal attackers this turn, in which case it's enough to make each of your attackers individually fatal, or unless you have trelesara on the board and need to dig for a removal spell, in which case it's enough scrys to find what you're looking for.
I never in my wildest dreams thought I'd one day be upgrading my squirrels deck ... with an uncommon. Strange days.
The thing I dislike about lifegain decks in Arena is exactly what you mentioned here. Even if I have the answers to the payoffs, the rest of the deck just draws the game on with more and more life. And if I don't have the answers, it still can't kill me very fast. So whether I do things right or not, the game is longer than it should be.
I don't like it because you can force opponents to concede due to too many triggers in the stack regardless of if they have answers or not.
It's scummy to use in arena ranked just to force through wins due to technical bugs.
that hammer time deck made me want to reconsider playing magic
God I love Seth’s videos. And I will never call anyone out about a punt during gameplay. BUT music punts are a different story! It’s hammer time at 23:59 , but Seth is humming Vanilla Ice. Never change Seth, you rock.
One of my favorite “mispronunciations” Seth does is when he sings Ice Ice Baby instead of Can’t Touch This while playing Hammer Time 😂
Literally came here to comment that too 😂
My brain is poisoned by the internet and now scurry oak looks like ai art with all the fingers
Seth your musical reference to hammer time was ice ice baby
Lol, oops.
I've spammed this deck on best of 1. It's amazingly fun to play, and it seems like it just has infinite outs. Thanks for the decklist!
I can't believe I witnessed Seth making a legit lotr/mtg cross reference. You've come a long way
Just wait for this week's Against the Odds ;)
Seriously though, I think it's because I rewatched the movies, now I'm a Lord of the Rings expert ;)
Rosie also goes around hushbringer effects. It might be good to have a couple of cards that make an opponent lose life in the sideboard for the one ring.
Why not Yotian Dissident and Peregrin Took? They go infinite well, and are less recognized as combo pieces, giving you more surprise power. As well, even if the opponent has a wrath, you can draw your deck to set up for the next combo.
And BONUS: both are Uncommons.
and BONUS 2: They actually are decent cards in the deck individually.
Seth humming Ice Ice Baby when he obviously meant to do Can't touch this (Hammer time) is classic Saffron Olive
10:46 I would have started with the scurry oak there, it's obvious what you're playing already, they might deal with it immediately, but if they had a burn spell that could, they would probably have domed you with it. a naturally 2/2 Voice of the Blessed after the 1/2 Scurry Oak there evolves it fairly, giving you a squirrel token, which nets you 4 more life (12 total) and pretty much the same counters on Voice - and if it didn't work you're probably dead either way.
100% misplay after seeing you still play the scurry oak after. 4 more life and an extra 1/1 body would definitely have put you in position to keep the scurry oak (12:10) or would have forced them to fragment the oak to remove it instead of the voice, since you could have blocked and kept the oak, and he doesn't want you comboing next turn, either way you come out in a better position.
One big thing missing from this budget list that wasn't mentioned is the singleton Ajani that's been in the previous non-budget versions. It's the key to winning the mirror matches, and is our only out for a lot of other niche situations. It's the board wipe we need against any of the decks that flood the board like elves, devotion, etc, and it's multiple threats against the control decks.
I think it's right to play it over one of the reconstructions here.
Nice! I've found Rosie Cotton strong across formats: draft, constructed, and even Historic Brawl. I made a Historic Brawl vid on my channel with Rosie at the helm and she was incredible. I'm tempted to build it in paper now.
Agreed, she’s been amazing in my halfling tribal deck
@@andrewbedwell8186 That sounds sweet, which format?
@@priorityholderHistoric
@@priorityholderit’s mostly a food deck that just happens to run a lot of halfings. But it’s been surprisingly good at sneaking out wins from opponents.
@@andrewbedwell8186 Interesting, are you using a Collected Company or Kaya's Restoration shell? I tend to focus on Explorer and have been toying with the idea of Rosie Cotton and/or Food.
13:36 graveyard hate is a good side agaisnt the izzet wizards deck, particularly after seeing those snapcasters and Lurrus as the companion, I might have brought in a relic or two
Oh! I built a deck around those two as well. Scurry Oak is part of my green token deck, and then I pulled a Rosie and felt pure joy.
I played against someone playing this deck earlier today and was wondering where it came from. Unluckily for them i was playing a turbofog deck but it was still super cool to see
18:57 “Actually Prosperous Innkeeper is not a land.”
-Seth, 2023
Make sure to tune in next episode for more great nuggets of Magic wisdom ;)
That was sweet Seth, although you still didn’t beat Izzet Wizards, they were playing Jeskai Wizards.
27:30 if its any consolation, you were dead even without the shadowspear. They just have to put belt back on ornithopter. I was never an alchemy hater but when they make all these perpetual cards and make them super broken, that is when it bugs me.
Figured out how to emrakul and ulamog someone with ashnod cat sam... so fun.
That first match is exactly why I always loved the first deck I built. It was an angel deck built to make tokens from life gain. Because it was made to gain life though it made it hard to finish off because no matter how hard I got hit I could easily gain a half a dozen to a dozen if not more my following turn.
Something paper has over MOTO and Arena is the power to say to your opponent "I can do this indefinitely unless you can stop me. I'll choose to do it, how about, 100 billion times." after showing the combo and how it works. Your opponent saying "okay" or "response to X" and the both of you saving time. It will be great when ether program can speed up these mass counter/life/token gain.
You can press spacebar instead of clicking "Accept" every time, which drastically reduces the time you need to go through the loop.
I'm still not sure what to do with Historic. I mainly play limited then build Historic Brawl decks and maybe a couple Standard or Pioneer decks per set release. Lord of the Rings has been fantastic, but then I see the Strixhaven draft chaff I'm familiar with that have been edited into a busted wizard deck, and they feel like fake cards. Add that to the digital-only cards, and I don't see myself doing anything with my LotR cards outside of Historic Brawl, where I can opt out of playing six-sided cards or whatever.
Kind of giving off an elitist/purist vibe with this. If you don’t like something it’s beneath you and chaff or fake. If it’s what you play then it’s great. Broaden the horizons a bit. I play a 2015 modern abzan deck in historic …because it’s fun. Siege rhino, Goyf, Liliana, Thoughtseize, Lingering Souls etc.
@@jakecollin5499 Play what you enjoy. I draft and then casually build for multiple formats, which makes errata'd cards annoying. I also have a Mac which doesn't play nice with clicking through spellbooks and Specialize cards, or support Modo on the native operating system. Didn't have the money to get into Modern since I took time off when the staples rose in price, so telling people to just play Modern gives off some "elitist/purist vibes," imho.
I had a cool idea of using lonis with them for a token style deck instead of focusing on lifegain, but for some reason investigate doesn’t trigger her on arena rn
Was a bit irritating to learn
We really need Academy Manufactur on Arena. That's the biggest thing Lonis is missing.
I think it was a misplay to scry the lands to the bottom in game 1, because if you had kept the you could have played rosie and the oak at the same time and being able to combo if they didn’t hold up interaction.
I’m fine with Seth mispronouncing card names, but I don’t know how I feel about him humming “Ice, Ice Baby” when Hammer Time triggers.
I used to play a deck very similar to this in Pauper. Midnight Guard and Presence of Gond with twin wardens lol.
The the scurry oak combo you can play rosie first. You just need to play a 2/2 or bigger afterwards playing a rosie, letting it sit and then using the 5 mana to play oak then trelissara
An interesting green card for some infinite green mana after finishing your combo with Rosie and scurry oak would probably be circle of dreams Druid.
It lets you tap for green mana equal to how many creatures you control
More content like this please! I’m sure there are lots of people like me who are excited for these LotR cards but desperate for anything to do with them in Arena beside going broke drafting.
Seth: ... with just 14 rares!!! :O :O
Me looking at my 1 rare wildcard: 😞
I think we all just need a shirt with the words "I feel like I never beat..." -Saffron Olive
Glad I can put the cards I crafted for the Book of exalted deeds + Faceless haven deck to an equally disgusting use
I also like this deck with the convoke shell
Ohh, that sounds interesting. Do you have a list?
Beat the full price version of this deck with my mono-red goblins deck. Opponent roped themselves dealing with the triggers and having 68 life when the rope ran out wasnt enough
I like stamped of late better than Kala reconstruction and works with elf decks
I feel bad for the wrists moving back and forth from scurry oak to the make a squirrel confirm trigger…just press spacebar to confirm and leave your mouse on the oak for max efficiency
I'm pretty sure I have carpal tunnel now. Thx squirrels.
Cleric class is uncommon and super useful for this combo
This deck is an absolute banger.
22:23 no, the only way to not win here is if you misplay. They are tapped out and your double combo means you can make your other creatures infinitely large, all you have to do is swing with two 8/8 soul sisters for the win (or one 17/17) this turn.
And of course you did make the misplay XD
26:52
casually loses the game by giving back the ornithopter
proceeds to not notice because shadowspear
Every time I try to watch Seth play Historic, I’m left just thinking ‘why?…why play with/against fake cards with ridiculous text like perpetual?…’ Well, I tried. Looking forward to your next video.
Scariest part of video is discovering that there is a fake card and a commander-only card in historic that makes Hammer Time stupid scary in Historic.
Ha, yeah, that deck can get some absurd draws.
I hate lifegain decks but...I love saffron olive.
So I will SMASH THAT LIKE BUTTON
This is my all time favorite kind of deck
Who doesn't love Squirrels?
@@MTGGoldfish i just love the small incremental value that gets way out of hand
Yeah I'm building this deck, looks like a blast and want something more consistent for Historic.
24:00 Seth you're humming Vanilla Ice not MC Hammer LOL!
Oops lol
@@MTGGoldfish Same Era. I literally bought both of these albums in the same year 😄
I could see this in modern doing work.
I use this combo in Arena, and holy cow is it crazy
I put this in the food and fellowship deck. Squirrels are overtaking the shire!
While its not too bad in this video, does anyone else find it slightly offputting when Seth complains about the mana base in Budget Magic videos?
I understand that its a weak point in a lot of decks, but I feel that it should either be:
1. Run with thr best mana available but provide a decklist with cheap mana (especially on Arena where people will generally spend wild cards on lands anyways)
2. Just try extremely hard to not mention the problems with the manabase, at least until the wrap up. I get that it affects games sometimes, but I feel that saying your budget manabase is bad because you're on a budget is kind of silly. Like saying "I'm so hungry" because you didn't eat, but you didn't eat because you're on a diet. It's a self-inflicted thing that will impact the games, that's the point.
Hopefully I wasn't complaining too much, that's something I try to avoid, I can't help but meme on the snarls a bit though, just because I find that land cycle so hilariously bad (although honestly, now that they are uncommons that are pretty great for budget).
@@MTGGoldfish I totally get it, and it wasn't bad in this video at all. It's mostly in modern/pioneer when they're playing shocks/mana confluence/fetches and you're stuck on tap lands. After the first match or so the viewer gets the idea that your manabase isn't going to be as good 😂 Still love the content though! Maybe I just have a preference for Against the Odds or Much Abrew haha
Can we have a modern version of this? maybe with a budget of 200$
this is sick with an untapped lands
4:36 "I feel like I never beat Wizards" You and every other MTG player...
24:55 squirrels dont care about removal, squirrels only care about domination. screw the phyrexians, squirrels are the true multi-planar threat, and now that a giant tree has opened all the planes....
That first game was cathartic. Feels good beating tryhards that think this game is a championship.
Love this deck! Has anyone linked a non budget version yet?
Goddammit. I’ve been loving LTR so far, but Artisan really did not need a better version of the Scurry Oak combo.
🤩 amazing love it
Show those Arena Zoomers the power of Infinite Squirrels
It's nuts.
Every time you said we beat wizards I was like how have we beaten wotc lol
As one of the maybe 6 people alive who plays Scurry Oak fairly, I only use it because it’s a removal sponge that protects the rest of my board😢
Maaaan historic is so fun as a format
I've been enjoying it.
Because of Fragment Reality i have one copy of Serra's Ascendant in my version
That victory against Wizards was so sweet. That deck existing purely because of Alchemy nonsense is so tilting.
So many halflings from LOTR can infinite with a ham sandwich... so on point for lore.
Do you think there is some kind of budget mono white control list in modern with reprieve and mana tithe?
Yeah, I think that's possible. I'm not sure how good it will be but it's something I'm planning to try for sure. No one will expect it at least ;)
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Would have preferred to see this in Modern; the Arena exclusive cards from opponents just look like nonsense to me.
33:06 you couldn't run out the soul warden first, you didn't have the treasure since Innkeeper made it when he came in off CoCo, If you ran out the soul sister, you wouldn't have had the mana for CoCo.
They should make a Scurry and Krenko combo card lol
SPLINTER TWIN IS BACK AND ITS GREEN WHITE NOW
Twisted Sister!
I just have to wonder: Why Fortified Village? If you have the rares for exactly one playset of rare duals, why choose the one that you have explicitly said you hate the most, and which is the worst, in a format where real prices don't matter, when you could be playing fast lands or shock lands or... anything else?
On Arena Fortified Village is actually an uncommon because of Shadows Over Innistrad Remastered. As a rare land Fortified Village and the rest of the snarls are horrible, but as uncommons they are actually pretty solid budget lands.
@@MTGGoldfish Oh right! I forgot that they were downshifted!
4:34 I mean the whole point of the Arena economy is that you never beat Wizards right? The house always wins
Obviously if this deck is a mash up of splinter twin and soul sisters, the deck name should be Twin Sisters.
Hell yeah
Um… someone help me here. Did I just see something that was legitimately good in soul sisters? Did the meme come to life?
It's finally happening!
Play this non budget please!!!
Is their a card that gives everything hexproof you could put in this deck for an upgrade?
Heroic Intervention! Everything gets Hexproof and Indestructible for two mana. Could also use Teferi's Protection.
Be careful, if there is a Night of Souls Betrayal out, and scurry oak and Rosie are your only two creatures, p sure that's a draw 😅
We are never beating Night of Souls Betrayal lol
Can you please re drop the fish moon shirt as a hoodie
I'll see what I can do! We haven't made any hoodies yet, but we should.
@@MTGGoldfish yeah and blow up more lands keep up the good work ❤️
Historic is so lame, that Hammer Time deck is just unfair having better cards than the Modern version, especially when some of them dont even exist in paper
would walking balista not make this deck more consistant? Helios with it can go infinite instead of 3 piece combo and can also be hit off of collected company? maybe worth idk
It's not on Arena, but if you are playing the deck in a format where is it legal it's great. Would add it for sure in a Modern build.
You can't hit Ballista off of CoCo, it comes in as a 0/0 and goes straight to the graveyard when state-based actions are checked.
Splinter twin is too powerful for modern. Lets add a combo thats one turn faster!
Historic isn't Modern, it has its own very weird power level and the ability to instantly nerf any card via alchemy readjustments. If Rosie's too good, they could just make her say "only once per turn" or make her cost 4 so you can't hit her off CoCo.
The issue with splinter twin wasn't the combo, the issue is that the rest of the deck would kill you turn 4 even without it. It was too powerful and way too consistent to be left as it was.
I think I’ve finally decided: Historic Hammer Time is one of the most annoying, least fun decks to exist in a very long time
I was really hoping that he would do this but for modern
I think the top of the heap in Modern just eats this deck alive. Modern is an extremely hostile format for synergy-centric creature decks at the moment - all the top decks have tons of interaction. This deck curves out straight into a turn 3 evoked-Fury-as-Wrath-of-God and any deck that does that is effectively non-viable in current Modern.