Honestly if they shuttered the company and refuse to sell the product, i have a hard time caring if copies of a digital product are still in use. I know this means no back end support, but we rarely need it, assuming this test version is stable.
I think I would feel a little different if this was a cracked version of 32.10 but the issue is we don’t know what the hell this is. Also I’m uncomfortable manicures selling this and making money off that fact. A user flashing is one thing but a company doing it is another
@@MadRC especially since it should not be that hard for the manufacturers to switch to am32. It's lazy, and shows how little care there is for the end user, do they even know what this test firmware is based on?
@@MadRC it isnt really any of the customers concern what or how blheli32 is or works. customers arent paying blheli or interacting with the business in any way. they are buying and paying for the esc from the esc manufacturer brand. so whatever the manufacturer provides should be seen critically as the product that it is. if the manufacturer ships it as-is then it can be trusted and if it causes issues you can take it up with the manufacturer. its not like an untrusted 3rd party is doing things to the product without accountability. the manufacterer is solely reponsible for the product they sell, regardless of who they may or may not have contracted to do software for their product. like with the swargg orqa goggle thing. it doesnt matter to the users who swargg was or what beef internally he had with orqa. all issues customers have with orqa goggles are between orqa and the customer to resolve. its nobodys concern what goes on in the backend. yes its shady and unprofessional to ship esc's with sample firmware but it is unfair to say that it is a lesser product or untrusted. the product you bought and recieved is exactly what it was marketed as. an esc from a manufacturer with blheli32 software and fully functioning. neither the customer nor the manufacturer is being wronged here. only a contractor the manufacterer did business with in the past, which they can internally deal with themselves.
@@MadRC You are right of course, I was just surprised any companies actually licensed it to begin with. I wonder if the AM32 license is significantly higher priced or is it really just lazyness. If the AM32 license is indeed higher priced, I would think going back to 8bit to maintain pricing should be made available alongside AM32.
I’m shocked that a single Chinese manufacturer was paying for this to start with 😂 had no idea. I thought this was another elrs situation. If the dev quits, and didn’t release their source, then it’s fair game to hack it anywhere. That’s always been the game.
Try to check traffic with wireshark and see where the configurator traffic is going. If the original configurator was checking in with Blheli servers (in Norway or EU), this configurator could just be a hacked piece of software, that might be connecting to a random server (with a Chinese IP address) to bypass required checks. This could also mean that the firmware could be whatever version they want it to be, and no real way to verify it is 32.10
Thank you for having balls Ian (not in a literal meaning.. of course) I really can't believe this crap is going on with 32bit esc software. What a shitshow. Your speaking up about it is appreciated.
Good stuff as always Ian, Honest and factual reviews and information is always much appreciated and decent of you to show the workaround incase people have come a cropper and up the creek
Just ordered a SpeedyBee Stack that has BL32. I did it because you configure through their app using Bluetooth. So I figure whatever they are using is compatible with that app and I won't need a factory configurator from BL. I presume mine is leftover stock which is fine. If I fry it in the future, I'll just get an AM32 version of that ESC in the future. At least I can configure it if I need to touch it through the SpeedyBee app.
Sequire at least is no stranger to AM32 - they literally just released an AM32 ESC that you looked at. They must be doing it because there are people who do not want to buy AM32 yet. It's always more comfortable to buy what you know and have used for ages. I agree that this is a bad thing for manufacturers to do and will not help to force a pivot to AM32 that is needed in the long run.
Can confirm, Foxeer F405 V2 Stack with the 55A Reaper has this issue. But I don't want to deal with the hassle of unsoldering and sending it all back just to rebuild everything so I'm just going to live with it.
@@MadRC It would be great if I could just get half my money back, since only half the stack seems a viable option for flight. I really don't want to desolder and disconnect everything, especially since I have already thrown away my factory packaging.
@@MadRC They just emailed me the file for Foxeer's factory configurator. So I just decided to switch to AM32. You can mark down the Reaper 55A ESC as being capable of using AM32.
I am now stuck with an esc that when I crash that when I rearm one motor doesn't arm. That's verry anoying because I race them. Is there any way to fix it without needing to update or have a test version on the esc (because that's just not okay that they are shipping test versions)? I think it's a great video! I think your the only one that mentions it!
Can we have some am32 tutorials using stm and artery chipset please Kiel and stm cube software Stlink usage ive not gotten round to pulling a quad apart yet.
Oh boy. Just bought a foxeer f405 v2 stack which had been out of stock for a bit. Feels like theres a decent chance i got one of these. thanks for the heads up.
I just received a Tmotor 13a 1s aio with legitimate firmware, but I bought it prepping a 1s build knowing supply *should* be drying up. It seems like such a lazy way to go about dealing with this issue.
The option for "hidden" is not what you think it does, you actually have now hidden the folder, but you already enabled show hidden/files folders. This might mess up people, as the moment they enable hidden on a folder and dont have "show hidden files/folders" enabled, the folder will become invisible.
Pardon my ignorance but could one hypothetically flash different firmware on it? I’m new and pretty clueless. Edit: Is there a final firmware version of blheli that was released that users could have saved and installed?
just bought foxeer stack with f405 and reaper 55a, got problem like you,, how to get test activator like that,, I was email to foxeer and waiting his response
Flapdoodle. The developer of the BLHeli32 software had no right to deny access to the servers, it is simply not legal and they should be held accountable for it. I sincerely wish that they would be billed millions of dollars for what they do. As a regular user, I should be able to access the servers, even if there are no more new versions, but the latest version 32.10 should be available to me. And I say thank you to those who were able to crack this software. Perhaps this is not legal, but it is fair.
I’m sorry but you acre completely wrong. If Microsoft stopped trading tomorrow do you expect them to still provide you access to updates ? It ain’t going to happen. BLHeli owe you as a consumer nothing. They never actually sold you their software. They sold it to manufacturers. You as a consumer have no rights to anything over their software. BLHeli have every right to do what they want with their software and while we may not like that if is the fact of the matter. We all agree we wish they had published the current hex files but they had no requirement to.
wow... thats absolutely ridiculous and shady as all hell. Looks like i'll be avoiding all of those manufacturers for a while. That sequire stack was looking interesting too...
any chance you can test whether this "bootloader n" is locked as the release one it? Can the firmware be flashed with a normal esc config tool/configurator to one of the other 32bit firmwares? Or will it still require going through the process of overwriting the lock bit. Thanks in advance
You are a life saver! Without this video I would have been screwed for my robotics competition this weekend. Thank you so much!!!!
Honestly if they shuttered the company and refuse to sell the product, i have a hard time caring if copies of a digital product are still in use. I know this means no back end support, but we rarely need it, assuming this test version is stable.
I think I would feel a little different if this was a cracked version of 32.10 but the issue is we don’t know what the hell this is. Also I’m uncomfortable manicures selling this and making money off that fact. A user flashing is one thing but a company doing it is another
@@MadRC especially since it should not be that hard for the manufacturers to switch to am32. It's lazy, and shows how little care there is for the end user, do they even know what this test firmware is based on?
@@MadRC it isnt really any of the customers concern what or how blheli32 is or works. customers arent paying blheli or interacting with the business in any way. they are buying and paying for the esc from the esc manufacturer brand. so whatever the manufacturer provides should be seen critically as the product that it is. if the manufacturer ships it as-is then it can be trusted and if it causes issues you can take it up with the manufacturer. its not like an untrusted 3rd party is doing things to the product without accountability. the manufacterer is solely reponsible for the product they sell, regardless of who they may or may not have contracted to do software for their product. like with the swargg orqa goggle thing. it doesnt matter to the users who swargg was or what beef internally he had with orqa. all issues customers have with orqa goggles are between orqa and the customer to resolve. its nobodys concern what goes on in the backend.
yes its shady and unprofessional to ship esc's with sample firmware but it is unfair to say that it is a lesser product or untrusted. the product you bought and recieved is exactly what it was marketed as. an esc from a manufacturer with blheli32 software and fully functioning. neither the customer nor the manufacturer is being wronged here. only a contractor the manufacterer did business with in the past, which they can internally deal with themselves.
@@MadRC You are right of course, I was just surprised any companies actually licensed it to begin with. I wonder if the AM32 license is significantly higher priced or is it really just lazyness. If the AM32 license is indeed higher priced, I would think going back to 8bit to maintain pricing should be made available alongside AM32.
I’m shocked that a single Chinese manufacturer was paying for this to start with 😂 had no idea. I thought this was another elrs situation. If the dev quits, and didn’t release their source, then it’s fair game to hack it anywhere. That’s always been the game.
Try to check traffic with wireshark and see where the configurator traffic is going. If the original configurator was checking in with Blheli servers (in Norway or EU), this configurator could just be a hacked piece of software, that might be connecting to a random server (with a Chinese IP address) to bypass required checks. This could also mean that the firmware could be whatever version they want it to be, and no real way to verify it is 32.10
Thank you for having balls Ian (not in a literal meaning.. of course) I really can't believe this crap is going on with 32bit esc software. What a shitshow. Your speaking up about it is appreciated.
Damn... Unbelievable. 🙄
Thanks for the info, Ian! If it wasn't for you I wouldn't believe it!
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Now would be a great time to donate to the AM32 project
Good stuff as always Ian, Honest and factual reviews and information is always much appreciated and decent of you to show the workaround incase people have come a cropper and up the creek
Sincerely : i can live without blhei32, for sure🎉. Bluejay does the same job if set correctly. Never had an issue with bluejay.
Just ordered a SpeedyBee Stack that has BL32. I did it because you configure through their app using Bluetooth. So I figure whatever they are using is compatible with that app and I won't need a factory configurator from BL. I presume mine is leftover stock which is fine. If I fry it in the future, I'll just get an AM32 version of that ESC in the future. At least I can configure it if I need to touch it through the SpeedyBee app.
Sequire at least is no stranger to AM32 - they literally just released an AM32 ESC that you looked at. They must be doing it because there are people who do not want to buy AM32 yet. It's always more comfortable to buy what you know and have used for ages. I agree that this is a bad thing for manufacturers to do and will not help to force a pivot to AM32 that is needed in the long run.
Can confirm, Foxeer F405 V2 Stack with the 55A Reaper has this issue. But I don't want to deal with the hassle of unsoldering and sending it all back just to rebuild everything so I'm just going to live with it.
Let me know how you get on with it. There is talk of a possible 100 arm limit but it’s not confirmed.
@@MadRC It would be great if I could just get half my money back, since only half the stack seems a viable option for flight. I really don't want to desolder and disconnect everything, especially since I have already thrown away my factory packaging.
@@MadRC I sent a email out to pyrodrone explaining the issue, I will report back when I get a reply.
@@MadRC They just emailed me the file for Foxeer's factory configurator. So I just decided to switch to AM32. You can mark down the Reaper 55A ESC as being capable of using AM32.
I am now stuck with an esc that when I crash that when I rearm one motor doesn't arm. That's verry anoying because I race them. Is there any way to fix it without needing to update or have a test version on the esc (because that's just not okay that they are shipping test versions)? I think it's a great video! I think your the only one that mentions it!
Can we have some am32 tutorials using stm and artery chipset please
Kiel and stm cube software
Stlink usage ive not gotten round to pulling a quad apart yet.
Cool video. Can't wait MILESEEY TP2 THERMAL CAMERA REVIEW VIDEO. 😊
Oh boy. Just bought a foxeer f405 v2 stack which had been out of stock for a bit. Feels like theres a decent chance i got one of these. thanks for the heads up.
Let us know
I just got one and yup I have the pre-release installed
Hey newbs, Bluejay doesn't support blheli32 hardware. Bluejay isn't a solution for this problem.
I just received a Tmotor 13a 1s aio with legitimate firmware, but I bought it prepping a 1s build knowing supply *should* be drying up. It seems like such a lazy way to go about dealing with this issue.
I was thinking the other day, "i bet their still gonna release with BL32"
Yeah I thought the same thing straight away when it started. I was like how can you license an already available product……….
I mean it is china. Like any company there cares about ip from another country lmao
The option for "hidden" is not what you think it does, you actually have now hidden the folder, but you already enabled show hidden/files folders. This might mess up people, as the moment they enable hidden on a folder and dont have "show hidden files/folders" enabled, the folder will become invisible.
Notepad++ is freaking rad 😀
Update, update, update.. I have not seen any real noticeable improvements in any tech after the 10000 updates in 10 years..
Where can I download BLHeliSuite32TestActivator_31.10.0.1 please?
Thank you! why doesnt blueJ open in a wwebbrowser anymore? please anyoone..cheers in adv...my tv controllers toast sry..hehe
I will not get one of those that's crazy my question is what frame was that you where doing the test with 👍
Pardon my ignorance but could one hypothetically flash different firmware on it?
I’m new and pretty clueless.
Edit: Is there a final firmware version of blheli that was released that users could have saved and installed?
Can we use that other configurator to flash an ESC with 32.8?
just bought foxeer stack with f405 and reaper 55a, got problem like you,, how to get test activator like that,, I was email to foxeer and waiting his response
Does that dev build have a locked bootloader?
Yes
Flapdoodle. The developer of the BLHeli32 software had no right to deny access to the servers, it is simply not legal and they should be held accountable for it. I sincerely wish that they would be billed millions of dollars for what they do. As a regular user, I should be able to access the servers, even if there are no more new versions, but the latest version 32.10 should be available to me. And I say thank you to those who were able to crack this software. Perhaps this is not legal, but it is fair.
I’m sorry but you acre completely wrong.
If Microsoft stopped trading tomorrow do you expect them to still provide you access to updates ? It ain’t going to happen.
BLHeli owe you as a consumer nothing. They never actually sold you their software. They sold it to manufacturers. You as a consumer have no rights to anything over their software.
BLHeli have every right to do what they want with their software and while we may not like that if is the fact of the matter.
We all agree we wish they had published the current hex files but they had no requirement to.
How much were these blheli licenses anyways. Do the devs need a handout to release everything open source?
wow... thats absolutely ridiculous and shady as all hell. Looks like i'll be avoiding all of those manufacturers for a while. That sequire stack was looking interesting too...
You really can't make this shit up
Nope it’s crazy.
I'm just gonna switch to 64bit esc and run Windows XP
Happened to me with BetaFPV
any chance you can test whether this "bootloader n" is locked as the release one it? Can the firmware be flashed with a normal esc config tool/configurator to one of the other 32bit firmwares? Or will it still require going through the process of overwriting the lock bit. Thanks in advance
It is locked.
@@MadRC thanks. was optimistically hoping the test bootloader was different :p
i wish we had the bootloader so we could just flash am32 easily
Need the target...
@@grampafpv right and that lol
32.9 official firmware is the best way to use old BLHeli 32 ESC. But stock warehouse is limited, unfortunately
Never understood why an ESC required a 32bit chip. 32bit is like a V12 in a go-cart.
8k/8k, Dshot 600
@@cinemoriahFPV Ypu can run DShot 600 on 8bit MCUs no problem ...
Ah shit I just got a new DarwinFPV stack
Can you let me know what you find on it ?
Since the servers went down im not buying any bl32 esc ever again. Problem solved.
Shill for doing things properly
Rat Dogs. Why tf didn't they start working with AM32 as soon as the announcement was made
Anyways I use bluejay
Doesn’t support Bl32
@@zorik79😂
Why won't they ship them out with blheli s? I'd rather flash mine with bluejay firmware
HeliS is 8bit, bl32 is 32bit...
sounds hacked blheli is gone fair game but buyer be where sounds sketch
sounds like a lazy route to go
Nice “Biden” bit at the end there!
You get all the coconuts.
@@hi_desert_rat 🤣
@@hi_desert_rat Yeah, I’ll take it!
Bloody hell!! Massive turd in the garden scenario!
Where can I download BLHeliSuite32TestActivator_31.10.0.1?