By far one of the best interviews to date... Shri Gautam Ji was eloquent, cryptic, to the point and totally engrossing to say the least... Can't wait to lay hands on this wonderful book ... His pauses were impregnable and so also your invaluable comments and inputs. All in all a fascinating experience. Keep it up Sir, you are doing a yeoman service to humanity and not just to Hindus and our Sanathana Dharma. Bravo...
This I believe would be PM's greatest contribution in a historical sense. He has unlocked the door that prevented us from indulging in this civilisational discourse.
Many thanks to Shri Gautam Desiraju for his keen and piercing views on the Constitution of India. Our Constitution is man made and at a certain time. Times change, situations change and people change. Hence the Constitution must also be changed with time, at least once every decade! Thanks Sree ji for yet another informative, educative and engaging hangout!
Mr. Iyer, pl start a national awakening and help to create a Trust to translate important books into Hindi and vernacular. All these literary works should compulsarily be translated and promoted. Why don't you interview major publishing houses and initiate the discussion on how this is to be taken forward.
It will take a couple of months. If you live in India it's easier to pick up a copy in the bookstores or purchase on line. Abroad, it's more tricky. As I describe at the end of the conversation.
Indian Constitution , as is today , was supervised and approved by British Parliament . It was only drafted by Ambedkar but it is not a Indic/Dharmic based . Same with Indian legal system . They need to be rehauled as certain segments of population are using it to destroy Bharat .
But one of the main things that needs to be removed from prastavna of Constitution is word secular which has caused great harm to sanatan dharm and is added by indira Gandhi during emergency period undemocratically.
You are factually incorrect about British Parliament supervising it. And there was never any question about them approving it. See the final article in our constitution. You are correct in that it is not dharmic.
Constitution should have not taken caste & relegion as criterion for helping dis-advantaged sections of the society.They should have taken their financial status as the sole criterion. Then the society would have advanced with little factionalisation of the Indian society on relegion& caste, the present bane of the country. The relegion and caste are private of each individulal of the country.
🕉️🕉️🕉️ As per my understanding from a Vedic Teacher that Manusmriti is not relevant after Krishna Bhagawan left His Body. The Agastya Smrithi is relevant. Any Smrithi only based on Rule based Life and Varnashrama Dharma, not Casteism. Most of learned people still Quote Manusmriti for present day of conducting Social structure... P Guru's may have discussion with Vedic Pandits.
I don't think Manusmriti has everything Sree. It is a highly problematic document. Sree dropped the ball on this one. Constitutional values cannot be based in Manusmriti today
@@gautamdesiraju9717 Even Shruti are universal values inattributable to an author but modern scholars mis-translated it as divine and unchangeable. Shruti's should be sufficiently revised to mould the coming times into a dharmic lens as the world has changed from 6000 years ago.
So, the work of the best minds of the independence generation should be thrown out in toto - to be replaced by the outpourings of current day brilliance? Can we even name 10 people who are qualified to be part of a new constituent assembly? Better to make changes here and there - instead, unwavering focus should be on improving governance. No constitution can survive the poor intentions/ inefficiency of the bureaucracy
Please read the book and after that I'd be pleased to correspond with you. In brief the constitution was written by intelligent nationalists. Normal people like you and me who lived in extraordinary times. This made them extraordinary. Please don't hero worship anyone. And there's no need to be cynical about today's times. This is our country and each and every one of us is a stakeholder.
We did not go wrong . We had wrong people amongst us who nearly finished us. Let’s not allow them I future Be strict with fraud - Rahul , Sonia and other political people . Be strict with dange baj like amanstullsh Be strict to spreaders if hate .
Shri Gautam's presentation of the backgrounfd unfortunately is factually riddled with too many inaccuracies. PGurus should not let such wrong presentations take place as wrong info is worse than no presentation. Basically start of WWII had major implications. The Viceroy declared war without consulting the major political parties particularly the CONGRESS which was RULING 8 out of the 11 British Indian provinces. Foolishly Gandhiji took it as a prestigious issue and got the Congress ministries to resign. This left the field for British machinations with Jinnah and the ML, which led to the 23rd March 1940 Pakistan resolution. Under basically US pressure the Cripps mission of 1942 came but was doomed as intended by Churchill. The Congress response of QUIT INDIA in August 1942 was crushed brutally and and all Congress leaders as well others of RSS jailed. This left Jinnah and ML to totally communalise the country with active help from the British.However the British were economically devastated by the war and only survived because of the US and 2,5 million Indians who became part of the Military. It was clear by 1945 that it was not possible for Britain to hold India. Labour won in 1945 and tried to find a suitable way for them to exit WITHOUT getting caught in the COMMUNAL holocaust whcih was clearly waiting to happen, Despite a Cabinet Mission to India in 1946 no solution could be found between Congress and ML as the latter's head Jinnah would not compromise on separate Muslim Homeland of Pakistan and unleashed terrible communal violence. However arising out of the the Cabinet Mission Plans the CONSTITUENT ASSEMBLY was set up on 9th December 1946. The Congress initiated Constitution making work IMMEDIATELY despite Jinnah and ML boycotting it. The terrible communal situation lead Congress to decide that a unified India with a strong Centre by agreeing to Pakistan(with Partition of Punjab and Bengal) was the only solution to avoid total mass communal civil strife/CIVIL WAR and chaos. This was the view of Sardar Patel who as Home Member was aware of the overall situation in the country and also aware of the looming problem of 565 Princely States. The Partition had terrible consequences whose roots lay in the COMUNAL ELECTORATES decision of the British in 1909. However Sardar Patel -THE MAN WHO SAVED INDIA(as described by Hindol Sengupta in his book) has proved spectacularly RIGHT. India framed a constitution by Nov 1949 and has celebrated its 75 Independence Day-the Soviet Union despite a single party rule with the killing and incarceration of MILLIONS collapsed totally a little after 70 years! and what can one say of Jinnah's Pakistan. Our travails and how we overcame them needs to be properly told so that the three genrations know what they have inherited and WHAT ALL THEY HAVE TO DO in future.
Many things you say here are well known. I talk about imperial overstetrch as well. You should buy the book, read it in its entirety and send me your comments. I'd be pleased to reply.
Dhrama.. yeah my foot. A religion which has its leitmotif based on caste discrimination is talking about DHARMA. Caste based discrimination is the biggest ADHARMA in the world. Add to it untouchability, devadasi.. etc and it is becoming a bottomless abyss of ADHARMA. No wonder not one noble idea such as equality, equal opportunity, gender equality or dignity of labor did come from hinduism. You may want to spin it as much as you want by calling it by different names such as sanathana dharma or by whatever name you want to, but you cannot wash away the beastly/ghastly nature of your filthy religion. Keep burying your head in the sand.
@@srilakshmipeddada4893 Let me open up your self to you. If Bitish had not implemented the act of equality, women like you would have been quarantined to bathroom during menstruation period and Daliths would have been extradited into uninhabitable land. So much for your truth, culture and history. Casteism is your creed and Manusmrithi is your screed.
@@gautamdesiraju9717 Thanks for you condescending remark(s). However you fail to refute what I wrote. The problem with you MANUVAADIs is you know everyone else history except your own. First study the then prevailing social conditions prior to British rule. Remind yourself of what Ambedkar said about hinduism which I quote here -"HINDUISM IS A VERITABLE CHAMBER OF HORRORS TO DALITHS"
By far one of the best interviews to date... Shri Gautam Ji was eloquent, cryptic, to the point and totally engrossing to say the least... Can't wait to lay hands on this wonderful book ... His pauses were impregnable and so also your invaluable comments and inputs. All in all a fascinating experience.
Keep it up Sir, you are doing a yeoman service to humanity and not just to Hindus and our Sanathana Dharma. Bravo...
We are all blessed to be of this wonderful land.
@@gautamdesiraju9717 : YOU ARE BEAUTIFUL SIR! 👌🙏🙏🙏
Wonderful discussion on the biggest challenge of this century for Sanathana Dharma - rewriting the Constitution of India.
Great thing is now a days we are able to air our views and hence we are getting to know of these things...
This I believe would be PM's greatest contribution in a historical sense. He has unlocked the door that prevented us from indulging in this civilisational discourse.
Iyer ji., you are the best. Thankyou for doing this.
P.Gurus you are always rocking.
Thank U both of you for taking all these efforts for better future of Sanatani Community.
Very Honoured Gautam sir....
lucky to hear your talk ......
Please read the book.
Dear Sree, please invite Prof. Desiraju again to discuss on the metallurgy of India's indigenous fighter jet engine and the challenges involved in it.
These discussion is gold😍😍
Many thanks to Shri Gautam Desiraju for his keen and piercing views on the Constitution of India. Our Constitution is man made and at a certain time. Times change, situations change and people change. Hence the Constitution must also be changed with time, at least once every decade!
Thanks Sree ji for yet another informative, educative and engaging hangout!
Thanks a lot to Respected Gautam Sir, 🙏. It's a wonderful piece and beyond imagination from a scientific personal. Great contributions for us.
Wonderful to hear the ideas coming from an educated person.
Glad to see him
Thank you sirs 🙏🏽
You are welcome
great interview 👍, ty 😊 🙏
Brilliant informative video. Amazed by his vision and knowledge.
Thanks
Hope Science leads India; we lost millions of our people during Covid for lack of Health Infrastructure.
Super sir..
Mr. Iyer, pl start a national awakening and help to create a Trust to translate important books into Hindi and vernacular. All these literary works should compulsarily be translated and promoted. Why don't you interview major publishing houses and initiate the discussion on how this is to be taken forward.
Nice idea
Please continue such relavant issues connecting the culture and heritage of Bharat.
Informative discussion.
India is religious and spiritual country.
Respect sir.🙏🙏
Fantastic session. Very educational. Pls spread the awareness
Just ordered a copy.
We should not be restricting our ideology to Bharat alone. We must export our values towards all directions while concentrating on our nation first
Yes. But charity begins at home. And Bhārat is already a huge canvas.
VISHWAGURU disease!
@@dgen6268 Only by export does our income rise otherwise we will be galli ka kutta pretending to be sher.
@@gautamdesiraju9717 At home it is our duty, charity will be value export
@@mandy28887 once values,ideology, etc is turned into products, you won't be even a galli ka kutta, but a gutter ka Kira.
We may have not be knowing how and what shape independence and partition would take but, the brits knew it and it all happened as they wished.
I believe it was very complicated from 1909 onwards. No one knew too much. Please read my Chapter 1.
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I wuold like to know your as well as other constitution-experts/analysts opinion about the above observation
About Manusmriti?
Will this book be translated to hindi and other languages?
I hope so
Sir please kindly let us know if a kindle version is available for purchase and download.
It will take a couple of months. If you live in India it's easier to pick up a copy in the bookstores or purchase on line. Abroad, it's more tricky. As I describe at the end of the conversation.
Indian Constitution , as is today , was supervised and approved by British Parliament . It was only drafted by Ambedkar but it is not a Indic/Dharmic based . Same with Indian legal system . They need to be rehauled as certain segments of population are using it to destroy Bharat .
But one of the main things that needs to be removed from prastavna of Constitution is word secular which has caused great harm to sanatan dharm and is added by indira Gandhi during emergency period undemocratically.
You are factually incorrect about British Parliament supervising it. And there was never any question about them approving it. See the final article in our constitution. You are correct in that it is not dharmic.
I wish they printed and read it properly as BHARATA. It pains when people speak like malechas due to 1000 years of subjugation.
Inevitable issues of transliteration as well as regional variations in pronouncing this key word.
Constitution should have not taken caste & relegion as criterion for helping dis-advantaged sections of the society.They should have taken their financial status as the sole criterion. Then the society would have advanced with little factionalisation of the Indian society on relegion& caste, the present bane of the country. The relegion and caste are private of each individulal of the country.
It was a very complicated matter. Please read Chapter 2. There were and are no easy solutions. It is a formidable issue.
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As per my understanding from a Vedic Teacher that Manusmriti is not relevant after Krishna Bhagawan left His Body. The Agastya Smrithi is relevant. Any Smrithi only based on Rule based Life and Varnashrama Dharma, not Casteism.
Most of learned people still Quote Manusmriti for present day of conducting Social structure...
P Guru's may have discussion with Vedic Pandits.
I don't think Manusmriti has everything Sree. It is a highly problematic document. Sree dropped the ball on this one. Constitutional values cannot be based in Manusmriti today
Smriti, by definition, is mutable.
@@gautamdesiraju9717 Even Shruti are universal values inattributable to an author but modern scholars mis-translated it as divine and unchangeable. Shruti's should be sufficiently revised to mould the coming times into a dharmic lens as the world has changed from 6000 years ago.
Agree with you fully
Congress wanted india to be British / Muslim state
Sometimes, I got the feeling that even they didn't know what they wanted. Lets be fair to them. They lived in extraordinary and tumultuous times.
So, the work of the best minds of the independence generation should be thrown out in toto - to be replaced by the outpourings of current day brilliance? Can we even name 10 people who are qualified to be part of a new constituent assembly? Better to make changes here and there - instead, unwavering focus should be on improving governance. No constitution can survive the poor intentions/ inefficiency of the bureaucracy
Please read the book and after that I'd be pleased to correspond with you. In brief the constitution was written by intelligent nationalists. Normal people like you and me who lived in extraordinary times. This made them extraordinary. Please don't hero worship anyone. And there's no need to be cynical about today's times. This is our country and each and every one of us is a stakeholder.
Why nobody is referring C Rajagolachari who was boldly criticising and opposing all. the wrong bad policies of Nehru from day one of our independence
Ha ha vision living in America. Live lovely there come back and get the better vision of India
We did not go wrong . We had wrong people amongst us who nearly finished us.
Let’s not allow them I future
Be strict with fraud - Rahul , Sonia and other political people .
Be strict with dange baj like amanstullsh
Be strict to spreaders if hate .
Shri Gautam's presentation of the backgrounfd unfortunately is factually riddled with too many inaccuracies. PGurus should not let such wrong presentations take place as wrong info is worse than no presentation. Basically start of WWII had major implications. The Viceroy declared war without consulting the major political parties particularly the CONGRESS which was RULING 8 out of the 11 British Indian provinces. Foolishly Gandhiji took it as a prestigious issue and got the Congress ministries to resign. This left the field for British machinations with Jinnah and the ML, which led to the 23rd March 1940 Pakistan resolution. Under basically US pressure the Cripps mission of 1942 came but was doomed as intended by Churchill. The Congress response of QUIT INDIA in August 1942 was crushed brutally and and all Congress leaders as well others of RSS jailed. This left Jinnah and ML to totally communalise the country with active help from the British.However the British were economically devastated by the war and only survived because of the US and 2,5 million Indians who became part of the Military. It was clear by 1945 that it was not possible for Britain to hold India. Labour won in 1945 and tried to find a suitable way for them to exit WITHOUT getting caught in the COMMUNAL holocaust whcih was clearly waiting to happen, Despite a Cabinet Mission to India in 1946 no solution could be found between Congress and ML as the latter's head Jinnah would not compromise on separate Muslim Homeland of Pakistan and unleashed terrible communal violence. However arising out of the the Cabinet Mission Plans the CONSTITUENT ASSEMBLY was set up on 9th December 1946. The Congress initiated Constitution making work IMMEDIATELY despite Jinnah and ML boycotting it. The terrible communal situation lead Congress to decide that a unified India with a strong Centre by agreeing to Pakistan(with Partition of Punjab and Bengal) was the only solution to avoid total mass communal civil strife/CIVIL WAR and chaos. This was the view of Sardar Patel who as Home Member was aware of the overall situation in the country and also aware of the looming problem of 565 Princely States. The Partition had terrible consequences whose roots lay in the COMUNAL ELECTORATES decision of the British in 1909. However Sardar Patel -THE MAN WHO SAVED INDIA(as described by Hindol Sengupta in his book) has proved spectacularly RIGHT. India framed a constitution by Nov 1949 and has celebrated its 75 Independence Day-the Soviet Union despite a single party rule with the killing and incarceration of MILLIONS collapsed totally a little after 70 years! and what can one say of Jinnah's Pakistan. Our travails and how we overcame them needs to be properly told so that the three genrations know what they have inherited and WHAT ALL THEY HAVE TO DO in future.
Many things you say here are well known. I talk about imperial overstetrch as well. You should buy the book, read it in its entirety and send me your comments. I'd be pleased to reply.
Dhrama.. yeah my foot. A religion which has its leitmotif based on caste discrimination is talking about DHARMA. Caste based discrimination is the biggest ADHARMA in the world. Add to it untouchability, devadasi.. etc and it is becoming a bottomless abyss of ADHARMA. No wonder not one noble idea such as equality, equal opportunity, gender equality or dignity of labor did come from hinduism. You may want to spin it as much as you want by calling it by different names such as sanathana dharma or by whatever name you want to, but you cannot wash away the beastly/ghastly nature of your filthy religion. Keep burying your head in the sand.
Open your self to be educated by truth through world history.
@@srilakshmipeddada4893 Let me open up your self to you. If Bitish had not implemented the act of equality, women like you would have been quarantined to bathroom during menstruation period and Daliths would have been extradited into uninhabitable land. So much for your truth, culture and history. Casteism is your creed and Manusmrithi is your screed.
Anger only leads to self-destruction.
@@gautamdesiraju9717 Thanks for you condescending remark(s). However you fail to refute what I wrote. The problem with you MANUVAADIs is you know everyone else history except your own. First study the then prevailing social conditions prior to British rule. Remind yourself of what Ambedkar said about hinduism which I quote here -"HINDUISM IS A VERITABLE CHAMBER OF HORRORS TO DALITHS"
Thank you sirs 🙏🏽