I am a Jain, and many of us consider no different from Hindus. Infact Jains are the most rightwinged people in India. We are a part of India story, not some minority reservation monger.
Yes we are all Hindus. I'm a Maratha but 1st a Hindu .no question. And Yes there's alot to learn from Jains. They are very smart, don't fall for propoganda stay united. I wonder if it's because they are vegetarians🧐
Jain are responsible and prideful people that’s why they are well respected and consider as brothers by our beloved Hindu, Sikhs and Buddhist communities. We all are one Dharmic religions
Excellent book by Dr Gautam Desiraju. I read it. Agree with the need for more states. Agree with his analysis of faultlines. Do not agree with some of the methods he has stated can alleviate faultlines. Do not agree that we need to do away with council of states or Rajya Sabha. India is too corrupt and morally deficient polity and civilization right now to give power into the sole hands of a Lok Sabha.
I know there are many folks who don't have the inclination to read the full book in depth, and find it easier to get the gist from a podcast medium like this. I appeal to you all to purchase the book regardless - it is not very expensive and most of us who follow such subjects can usually afford a small expense like this. Even if you don't read it, please buy it and contribute to the success and further promotion of these sort of Indic ideas..
Kashi/Sarnath was on the junction of Silk route/Uttara-Dakshin Pathas joining to international trade and domestic trade routes. Today the international routes are cut off due to partition. Expressways and waterways may change things domestically as well as internationally via Sagarmala/Bharatmala.
47:00 Amravati should be a part of Vidarbha, no matter which zone you put it in. It was ancient Kundinpur, which was the capital of the kingdom that Rukmini was from, and probably Dasharath's mother Indumati as well. I'd also rename Marathwada to Devagiri, as it was under the Chalukyas, and have Shambhajinagar as the capital
@@Itachi_Uchia1 We should not have linguistic states. I largely agree w/ Prof Desiraju's layout: there will be multiple states where major languages are not just Hindi, but also Marathi, Bengali, Telegu, Tamil, etc
Dividing states doesn't sit well with me. We also have to take the sentiments of people and historical values into account. As a Marathi, Maharashtra is not just a state but a legacy of Chatrapati Shivaji Maharaj. I'm from Konkan with my family roots in west Maharashtra. Every district here has slightly distinct variations of dialects, even tehsils do and state divisions have major variations or completely different dialects. But the state is what unites us. Without Maharashtra, there won't be Marathi people, only Konkani, ghati, khandeshi, etc.
Moreover, it wil also result in much more money and time waste. Every now and then all over India, Time Energy Money gets wasted in village election then city election then state election then center election and then by-election 🧐
I don't think you understand anything about division of states based on the significant cultural identity.... Telangana region was neglected during combined AP rule because Andhra people were more in population and would always elect someone from Andhra region,and those leaders would always neglect Telangana regions culture, development and even accent of Telangana Telugu.... Similarly Rayalaseema region should also be separated from Present Andhra aa it will encourage leaders from those particular states to come forward and take up the leadership of developing their region....Our country should atleast be classified by 50states in a minimum...that is the least count
@@himeshthungaturthi3215 That's not the point at all. The division of Andhra is already happened and it was out of necessity. That doesn't mean we should chop it more into 4 peaces or maybe we should, I don't know much about Telangana, it's your state you know better.
@@vamsikrishna3855 something needs to be done about that before the states are divided....bcoz its well proven in history and neighbourhood that as soon as they become majority the radical ideologies starts to take control which will not be good for minority hindus and further expanding the trouble into other states.....
@@vamsikrishna3855 You know Israel is a very small country and Jews are very less in number. Yet they managed to change demography of parts of Israel and made Muslims minorities. Israel is surrounded by all muslim countries btw. If Israel can do it, why can't India. Blame the Indian state for being stupid. Kashmir can be turned into Hindu majority if Indian state has the will to do it.
The professor is living in Dreamland if he thinks having Muslim majority state next to a Muslim majority country will create no security problems. Otherwise, the idea of having more number of smaller states is a good idea
@@gautamdesiraju9717 did not expect your reply, Professor! With respect, I was not talking about Pakistan but Bangladesh, since you mentioned a Muslim majority state in the Bengal border district. Jamaat-e-islaami groups are running roughshod in that country. Sheikh Hasina being in power has helped counter that a little, but she will not be there forever. Having such groups eventually run that country will be the same as having a second Pakistan at our border. Regarding Pakistan, both the U.S and China have their compulsions for keeping Pakistan going on for much longer than Indian state would like. I do not see Pakistan collapsing soon. Secondly, Indian state is barely able to handle the terror, discrimination, and crime issues emerging from a Muslim majority state (Kashmir) and two highly populated Muslim states (Bengal and Kerala). I think it's too early to even think about adding on one more; Hindus and non-Muslims get a raw deal in such places.
@@sankalp3513 Yes for China, no for US. American attitudes towards Pakistan has changed ever since Abottabad in 2011: we no longer see them as an ally, but as a vassal of Beijing
Pakistan did not get off the FATF grey list, IMF bailout for "flood relief", and F-16 maintenance support because of China. It happened because of the U.S. Pakistan is fully a beggar of the U.S again because it offered its airspace to bomb Zawahiri. All those benefits I listed above were Pakistan's reward for being a good little boy. It is back to the business of collecting geopolitical rent. U.S is back in the business of using Pakistan to counter balance China.
His argument on Indian Muslims getting Sanatanised is factually incorrect and absolutely bogus. Ambedkar has said beautifully on this: common features are not the result of a conscious attempt to adopt and adapt to each other’s ways and manners to bring about social fusion. On the other hand, this uniformity is the result of certain purely mechanical causes. They are partly due to incomplete conversions."
Yes I agree he is making point considering the economic basis but how Islam work is totally different there are many well educated person even if u see the case of Kerala well educated person are lured for jihad and other anti national activities I think he didn't read well about Islamic theology how it's work if that the case mugal were economic richer still they were hounding other non believers and that the difference which he need to understand that islam divide the people on the basis of belives rather rich or poor and quoting pew survey i dont think it is totally true we need to look at how they asked questions which part of india they took survey whether they asked questions from Ashraf or Pasmanda muslim there is certain criteria need to be taken and considering sanatanisation of muslim is demeaning of Sanatan itself.
@@gautamdesiraju9717 Sir with due respect I humbly present to you that what you considered pew survey report is not entirely true and then extending to conclusion is not upto your standard of profession as well because the sample size is very less, how they frame the question that is also questionable, which part they focussed more on is also issue if u ask coastal karnataka, Kerala Muslims there view point about incarnation, believe ganga is holly etc is totally different then other part which have better hindu population to present himself as secular or there is less prevalence of madrasa and Al-e- hadees people presence . I have my own experience there were my closed muslim friends which always talk all sense of brother hood but they act quite different in closed circle so there outlook is quite different from what it's appears and it's called as Al- taqiya. U can read about it. But right now I am not convinced with your argument about Sanatization of muslims it's like same argument of Ganga Jamuna tahzeeb and we had seen what happened and it's disgrace to actual sanatan values as well. I would say it would be islamization of sanatan happened Thanks🙏
I recently found about Vaad and am glad I found this. We need to tell the story of Bharat to our fellows first and then together we will echo it to the world. Arihant ji please ask your guest to recommend study materials or books.
India doesn't need these shallow technocratic solutions, what India needs is revival of Vedic traditions. The Vedic traditions provide vitality, strength, hope and unity to people. Also we need to abolish the democratic setup and establish a constitutional monarchy with limited powers. Democracy is the thing which is keeping India backward.
Very interesting and informative discussion 🙏🙏. It is very heartening to hear views of people from diverse disciplines on such issues. They bring a fresh perspective. Usually we only get to hear from politicians, lawyers and other "intellectuals" who seem to have nothing new to contribute.
I'm from north maharashtra aka khandesh.. My mother tongue is ahirani language which is fusion of gujrati, marathi and hindi.. And khandeshi accent also whole different from rest of Maharashtra. So when someone from khandesh move to pune mumbai he/she always told by pune mumbai people that "please speak शुद्ध(pure,classy) marathi like us" even when khandeshi people speak text book marathi but it sound different because of accent. Eventually in office place, colleges pune mumbai people force khandeshi people that change your accent.. Ab accent kaise change kare bhaiya, which is nearly impossible to change accent.. So avoiding this second class treatment in metros behalf of accent, khandeshi parents now speak in text book marathi in their home, so their children can't take khandeshi accent.. And apparently this killing ahirani(khandeshi) language and custom tradition related to it.. And this is my story also, I cant able to speak ahirani, in result I not identity local trees and local leafy vegetables which only available in that region, I not understand folk music in ahirani(khandeshi) language.. And this is really awful, and this killing my original identity.. In nutshell pune mumbai people self badge their accent as शुद्ध(pure) and all other marathi accent is अशुध्द(impure).. It just accent right!! How can your accent become pure and mine is impure.. Not know other region of Maharashtra but north maharashtra aka khandesh really need to Declare separate state.. Please Notice khandeshi also feel proud on shivaji maharaj..
@@prashanthreddy3326 ahirani and khandeshi both are one, but known by two different name.. Khandeshi because its speak in khandesh region.. To be honest, ahirani is subsidiary language (उपभाषा) of marathi, with totally different dialect from rest of other marathi dialect.. And I guess, konkani also subsidiary language of Marathi..
@@roman5782 plus, we can protect culture and custom related to region.. Plus we bound with and associates with two different identities parallely, first one is konkani or khandeshi then marathi.. And having multiple identities always better than one. So if any anti india element such as missionaries want demolished our dharma, in resistance we always have that second identity to tackle them.. Aani tya region kontya kshetrat kiti panyat aahe, Tehi kalun jain, aani tya var kaam hou shakel.. Jase khandesh ne local paryatanchya kshetrat kahich pragti nhi keli nhi aahe, pn he konkan aani sahyadri mule zaklya jat..
Most of the ideas are very valid. Water sharing will be the most contested area in the future. People will fight to death for the scarce resource. Land can be divided into any number of pieces, but nature and resources can't be divided without igniting conflict. Rivers join civilisation. Language and culture divide it.
Everything is perfect but it is not possible to make 75 states in a night , it will take 20-30 years minimum. Dividing states in parliament is easy but on ground it is the hardest thing ever. Years research is required on the natural resources and water sources that none of the part will suffer. Sir Andhra and Telangana issue is in front of us. But yes I am supporter of this type of thinking ❤️
@@gautamdesiraju9717 Sir I appreciate your view because as we see in USA there are 50 states , it is much easier to govern them and make world class. Thanks for giving us new type of thinking perception 🙏🏻🙏🏻
@@udaykiran5280 Uday Ji See Population wise that is the best way to see. USA 33 Cr Bharat 135 Cr Nearly 4.2 times That means More Governance needed. If you average 135Cr / 75 States = 1.8 Crore people in each state. And in USA 33Cr / 50 States = .66 Cr or 66 Lakh each states on an average.
12:00 From what I understand, if a Parsi does an interfaith marriage, he ceases to be Zoroastrian, which was the case w/ Firoz Gandhy and probably also w/ Zubin Irani. Although I've heard that Parsis have relaxed that rule in order to avoid going extinct. So I doubt that Smriti Irani is a Parsi, even if her husband still is. All that said, it was brilliant to make _her_ , instead of a muslim, Minority Affairs Minister. Although honestly, I don't think that department should even exist, since minorities - Sikhs, Buddhists, Christians, Parsis, Jains and Jews - have the same rights as Hindus, if not of muslims
Superb Talk as usual. It is important to hear the competent Bharatiya voices and collectively approach the reintegration of India. Slow reform is better than the sudden, visible "revolution" which leads to extremist approach. Bending over backward being replaced by bending over forward will lead to a damaged back. Instead just slowly straighten the back. Salami tactics is the best way to avoid someone of the old power state undermining the ultimate goal of Akhand Bhaarat. State division needs to be very carefully planned to avoid the eruption of more potential majority areas which want to secede based upon their composition. We cannot suddenly become generous and concerned about feeling of ghettoization etc.
Your methodological concerns are perfectly valid. This book describes the strategy or plan. Maybe the next book can describe the methodology or how to execute the plan.
1:05:00 Finally I disagree w/ Prof Desiraju. Islam's political attributes cannot be separated from their 'religious' attributes: this is something that has been analyzed at length by doing an analysis of the life of Mohammed, as well as an actual analysis of the historicity of Mohammed and the real creation of islam. The reason so many Indian muslims are up for jihad is b'cos it's right there in quran and sunnah, and when he says 'radicalization', it means other muslims - local or foreign - pointing out to them what they are actually expected to do
31:00 No road in Delhi should be named after either the Mughals nor their Turkic predecessors. All of them should be renamed to someone b/w Mahabharat era Indraprastha - maybe the Pandavas - to Prithviraj Chauhan and Hemchandra Vikramaditya.
i read prof. desiraju's book...excellent book...but i have some few questions...had i known earlier that prof. coming i would have pose some questions....since book is already released
There Must Be Respective States To Support The Dominion of Life and Culture of The Ancient Inhabitants... In Accordance With The Jurisdiction of Governance in Bharatavarsha. A Needful and Strategical Space for Involvement, Invention and Innovation in Upliftment, Well-being and Growth.. A Spirited Way..Devoid of The Fear of Existential Crisis.. Cruising to Enrich The Age-Old Culture and Ancient Heritage of Sanatana Bharatavarsha
Countries have modified their Constitutions from time imemorial. Any foreign country (likely Western liberal democracies) that complain if India does so should be told off in no uncertain terms.
I lived in both Telangana and Andhra, they speak the same language with different pronunciation, Telangana people feel uncomfortable in Andhra. The fight for a separate Telangana state was very nasty to say the least, there was a bit superiority complex among the Andhrites owing to its more colorful past. For a Telangana person, orrisa and Andhra were both alien, this feeling of not belonging is always bad, it leads to conflicts. Telangana people have self belief, not many minority cultures feel capable and confident. They felt Andhra was flourishing at their cost and they did not want it to continue. There is case for small human cooperation among states, we can not go back to medieval outlook, mistrust was encouraged and nurtured in less informed times. Priority of one zone over the other, even when language is the same creates mistrust and animosity. A people feeling sidelined must be heard. A bit disappointed when the speaker says India is culturally vibrant in North of India, South India existed prior to North came to form, North is just 3000 years old, they became Indian because they wanted a better cultural life. Big surprise, he fails to see the depth of South Indian Civilization. Only a big human culture unite humans, high level of trust is the basis for a human culture. Our big world needs goibal citizen, if you can not see global you are medieval. While there is a case for many more Telangana in India,, because language does not unite prople, there is also the case for a sophisticate global human, a few decades ago many upper class Whites/ Europeans were brought up to fear of India and its culture, now due to increased fact and experience circulating all over there is more trust and confidence among people. A white woman will marry an Indian, an Indian may marry a virtous Chinese woman. Our ancient views of each other keep changing, facts become important, fictional narratives lose hold. Penetration of knowledge and common virtues make all humans important. We need to live out of experience, Constitution must be amended to accommodate factual experience rather recommend impractical imagined priorities. A rich country like USA has many ethnicities and cultures, they became a strong nation because they made the differences not too important, it makes a common dysfunctional, rule of law and a unifying language made them stronger than Europe. Europe is still finding it difficult to address regional differences.
Andra people invest in Hyderabad and developed it and after development people think telengana is earning more and we should get more development than Andhra. But Andhra is developed mainly because of coast and geography not because of AP people discrimination. It's the same case now with south states vs north states where people say south is paying more tax than north but north is getting more budget. It will lead to the same situation. If you developed one city which is not yours those people say it happened because of them without caring about other factors and expect special status.
1) Concentrating political power in one place might also make it easier to conquer like what happened in Persia/Indonesia. Even natural calamities or black swan events would be a big risk. 2) NaPak is a classic example of concentrating all power in Urdu, Punjabistan and Army. If any One group can make all the decisions they WILL. Only when they HAVE to take others along and compromise that they will be flexible and adaptive. NaPak vs Bdesh is classic example. 3) Balancing power between Centre and States might reduce the Panipat syndrome. No single point of failure like in USSR. Internet is designed to work even if multiple nodes fail or get compromised. 4) Having a good ruler at Centre might work for some time. What happens if ruler changes behaviour or gets replaced by incompetent/destructive one? Nobody left to oppose or counterbalance or replace them. Mega PM with midget CMs will become the norm. We have seen this happen earlier as well. 5) If we don't learn from history and see what worked, what didn't and how to build RESILIENT structures not just in physical infra but also organisational infra then it'll just be a repeat of old mistakes.
40:45 I was originally from Kolkata. What is the name of the state you have b/w Pashchim Bangla and Jharkand? I would have given some more historical touches to this division, just like you did in Tamil Nadu: W Bengal would have been divided into Anga, Banga and Suhma, Suhma being the Ghoti belt west of the Hoogly. I liked your dividing up Bihar into Mithila and Magadh, but I would also annex some of the eastern part of Mithila to Anga. I'd also transfer Darjeeling to Sikkim: Gorkhaland can have all that Also, in Rajasthan, I would merge Ajmer w/ the state east of it, and call it Ranthambor. Also, I'd call Amravati as Vidharba, and have either Amravati or Nagpur as the capital. I liked your idea of Avanti (my preference: Avantika, like it was during Mahabharat times) as the name of the state that contains Ujjain and Indore. I also loved the Kosal - different from Avadh - finds its place on the map One more suggestion: each of these states should have a capital that is a very underpopulated area, not the #1 city of the state in question. Like Kolkata, Mumbai, Pune, Hyderabad would not be the capitals of the states that they were in. In some cases, I'd have a historic capital in order to resurrect that place. For instance, Warangal would be my capital for Telengana, and Devagiri/Deogiri would be the capital of Marathwada. Also, as I noted in my other comment above/below, for the North Karnataka part of the state, I'd try to recreate Vijayanagar, and de-emphasize the Bahmani areas. As you know, during the Bahmani sultanate, they had Gulbarga, Bidar and Bijapur, which later split into 5 sultanates. Vijayapur, as it is now called, and Raichur, would be a part of Vijayanagar, while Bidar and Gulbarga might go to that state just south of it At any rate, I like the direction of your thinking into this
@@piyushjaiswal9283 Then it would be the capital of Anga. Current state borders needn't be preserved. Incidentally, I thought that Karnasuvarna, near Murshidabad, was his capital
East Singhbhum, Pakur should be included in Mallapur. Because Historically it was part of Bengal and most of people are Bengali there. And make jamshed Pur or asansol as capital.
@@gautamdesiraju9717 sir, even Telangana should be divided into Uttara Telangana, Dakshina Telangana and Dandakāranya (Medaram-Bhadrachalam-Chinturu belt) Andhra should be divided into UttarAndhra, Godavari, Krishna and DakshinAndhra Rayalaseema should be divided into Rayalaseema state and Tirupati state.
Professor Desiraju is right about Kashi, it is the unofficial centre of the Bhojpur region as well as a mini Bharath in itself. You can easily find tamil, telugu, kannada, nepali, punjabi, marathi, etc all in this one little city. The BHU has already made Kashi the educational and medical capital of the region as most people go there rather than capital Lucknow.
Back in my fauji days, in the evening there used to be this utopia discussion about how we should build small states and make India powerful, by 2050 except almost everybody had a glass of alcohol and some were drunk, I had a cynical laugh then,happy to see quarter century later we have similar discussion in a public forum
But sir for ex if a state like up is divided it will increase dominance of one group or caste because in present up no community is very strong throughout the up but strong in some regions
@@Ishantyagiofficial You are wrong ,as someone coming from a city filled with govt employs their are very castiest too and most of jaat employees are against bjp and always support jat leaders,even though they are educated and are at a good level
47:00 I like your idea of zones, and it's similar to the hierarchical system of federation that Russia has, where they have federal subjects, krais and so on. Only thing I might change : I might allow there to be 5 'virtual regions' and let each state choose which virtual region it wants to be a part of, and allow this to be dynamic - change w/ every election. Also, I would have fixed election terms - say presidential elections every non-leap even year (2026, 2030...) and midterms every leap year (2028, 2032...) which would include nationwide state elections. That way, government is not campaigning all the time, and every government is stable due to these fixed terms
I am a half brhamin (mothers side) and half Yadav from fathers side yet I never had the opportunity to get reservation and had to pay complete fees for college.
No. We didn’t. It’s a platform that has deliberately avoided inviting many folks who would’ve got us lakhs of views. So request you to check twice before making such allegations please 🙏🏼
Along with restructuring into 75 states, I also consider it important to abolish our messy federal structure and have a unitary structure and a centralised administrative system with sub-ordinates placed at the regional/state level and local levels. It can work in the form of a tier system. This is important to unite us under a common mationhood and administration or else if every states work autonomously like now then India seems like a union rather than a civilisational state.
First problem: Despite being there regional parties not went National, this doviding will reduce political power . Second : What about the budget that are based on most financial city of state , rest state still lack infra , This is clearly a civil war plan
आदरणीय प्रधानमंत्री, भारत सरकार, नई दिल्ली, विषय - भारत में नए राज्य बनाने हेतु और राज्य पुनर्गठन आयोग बनाने हेतु, महोदय, भारत में काफी सालों से अलग और नए राज्य बनाने हेतु मांग चल रही है । कई राज्यों की मांग तो आजादी से पहले अंग्रेजों के समय से चल रही है और कई राज्यों की मांग देश की आजादी के बाद से चल रही है । लेकिन इतना संघर्ष करने के बाद भी पिछली सरकारों ने अभी तक काफी कम नए राज्य बनाएं है । जो भारत के राज्यों की जनसंख्या और क्षेत्रफल को देखते हुए ना के बराबर है । भारत के काफी राज्य जनसंख्या और क्षेत्रफल में विश्व के कई देशों से बड़े हैं । भारत के काफी राज्य जनसंख्या और क्षेत्रफल में इतने बड़े हैं कि अगर आने वाले समय में इन राज्यों ने अलग देश की मांग कर ली और यूनाइटेड नेशन में अपनी बात रख ली, तो इनको अलग देश घोषित करना पड़ेगा । इन सब खतरों को देखते हुए भारत में नए राज्य और छोटे राज्य बनाने बहुत जरूरी है । भारत के काफी राज्य विकास की दृष्टि से काफी पिछड़ गए हैं । काफी राज्य बड़े होने के कारण इन राज्यों के लोग अपनी भाषा, संस्कृति, खानपान और पहनावे को बचा नहीं पा रहे हैं । कुछ राज्य क्षेत्रफल के आधार पर, कुछ राज्य जनसंख्या के आधार पर बहुत बड़े हैं । भारत की जनसंख्या लगातार बढ़ रही है लेकिन जनसंख्यावृद्धि को देखते हुए इंडिया के प्रशासनिक ढांचा में कोई सुधार नहीं हुआ है, ना ही वह बढा है । अब जनसंख्या के आधार पर भारत में नए राज्यों की बहुत ज्यादा जरूरत है, ताकि हमारे देश का प्रशासनिक ढांचा सुधर सके । जब देश आजाद हुआ था, उसके बाद से खाली 5 नए राज्य बने हैं । बड़े राज्य और बड़ी जनसंख्या होने के कारण देश का विकास भी नहीं हो रहा है और प्रशासन हर जगह पर पहुंच नहीं पा रहा है । और इंडिया में जो भी छोटे राज्य हैं उनकी जीडीपी पर कैपिटा, एचडीआई सबसे अच्छा है, उदाहरण के तौर पर हरियाणा, केरला, उत्तराखंड और जो बड़े राज्य हैं क्षेत्रफल में और जनसंख्या में उनका जीडीपी पर कैपिटा और एचडीआई सबसे कम है । अमेरिका की जनसंख्या 33 करोड़ है लेकिन वहां पर 50 राज्य हैं, जर्मनी की जनसंख्या 8 करोड़ है, लेकिन वहां पर 16 राज्य हैं, जापान की जनसंख्या 12 करोड़ है, लेकिन वहां पर 45 राज्य हैं और भारत की जनसंख्या 140 करोड़ है लेकिन भारत में 28 राज्य है । इसलिए भारत में भी नए राज्य बनाए जाए । इंडिया में स्थाई रूप से राज्य पुनर्गठन आयोग बनाया जाए और इसका डिपार्टमेंट भी बनाया जाए । इसलिए केंद्र सरकार से निवेदन है कि भारत में राज्य पुनर्गठन आयोग बनाएं और भारत में नए राज्य बनाएं । भारत में पूर्वांचल, पश्चिमांचल, बुंदेलखंड, विदर्भ, मिथिला, कौशल, सौराष्ट्र, गोरखालैंड, टिपरालैंड, तुलुनाडु, मरूप्रदेश, भीलप्रदेश, बोडो़लैंड, विंध्यप्रदेश, मराठवाड़ा, करुनाडु, रायलसीमा, कोंगूनाडु, मत्स्यप्रदेश, महाकौशल, अवधप्रदेश, मालवा, खानदेश, कोंकण इन सभी राज्यों की काफी लंबे समय से बनाने की मांग चल रही है । इन क्षेत्रों के नागरिकों ने काफी आंदोलन, धरना, प्रदर्शन किए हैं । इसलिए इन क्षेत्रों के नागरिकों की मांग को पूरा करके इनको राज्य बनाया जाए । केंद्र सरकार से निवेदन है कि भारत में उत्तर प्रदेश में पूर्वांचल, पश्चिमांचल, बुंदेलखंड, अवधप्रदेश, महाराष्ट्र में विदर्भ, मराठवाड़ा, खानदेश, कोंकण, राजस्थान में मरूप्रदेश, भीलप्रदेश, मत्स्यप्रदेश, बिहार में मिथिला, उड़ीसा में कौशल, गुजरात में सौराष्ट्र, मध्यप्रदेश में विंध्यप्रदेश, महाकौशल, मालवा, पश्चिम बंगाल में गोरखालैंड, आसाम में बोडोलैंड, त्रिपुरा में टिपरालैंड, आंध्र प्रदेश में रायलसीमा, कर्नाटक में तुलुनाड, करुनाडु, तमिलनाडु में कोंगूनाडु राज्यों का निर्माण किया जाए । #राज्य_पुनर्गठन_आयोग_बनाओ #भारत_में_नए_राज्य_बनाओ #पूर्वांचल #पश्चिमांचल #बुंदेलखंड #विदर्भ #मिथिला #कौशल #सौराष्ट्र #गोरखालैंड #टिपरालैंड #तुलुनाडु #मरूप्रदेश #भीलप्रदेश #बोडो़लैंड #विंध्यप्रदेश #मराठवाड़ा #करुनाडु #रायलसीमा #कोंगूनाडु #मत्स्यप्रदेश #महाकौशल #अवधप्रदेश #मालवा #खानदेश #कोंकण भवदीय
Kashi/Sarnath was on the junction of Silk route/Uttara-Dakshin Pathas joining to international trade and domestic trade routes. Today the international routes are cut off due to partition. Expressways and waterways may change things domestically as well as internationally via Sagarmala/Bharatmala.
Disagree with 75 states thing. I am ok with more states but not with 75. Divide UP, Bihar, If needed Maharashtra (I don't suggest) Divide UP, Bihar in these states West UP Awadh Purvanchal (with West Bihar part, bhojpuri speaking area) Bundelkhand Mithila rajya Magadh rajya It will have average population of 6-7crore and linguistically homonized and it will help us in removing the fear of UP, Bihar dominating whole india and it will help in making administration good I am not Ok with 75 states but may be 35-40 states.
More federal states may or maynot be good idea. One issue is complete dominance of Hindi heartland in politics and decision-making. Will this resolve this issue I am not sure. This may increase hindiwalas dominance further.
Esne hindi speaking states ko divide Kar diya hhhhh Aur south ke big states ko bhi aur Education ko state par chhoda hhhhh Ye sirf economy ke liye Aur main up se hoon Aur main khud chhahta hoon up 4 states me divide ho aur tamilnadu, aur karnataka bhi small states bane
I agree with the author ....but reorganization doesn't mean that we need 75 states....small state has some limitations.....it needs lots of time and vision..... At present we atleast need 10 more states..... specially: UP.. M.P..... Bihar... West Bengal.... Maharashtra... Karnataka.. Assam tamilnadu...... Rajasthan must be re organised....for better development 🙏🙏
@@gautamdesiraju9717 Kashmir me militancy chalu hhh Aur wo to pakistan Jane ko taiyaar blithe h Jammu aur Kashmir ka ek culture h esliye unhe sath rehna chhahiye
I am just wondering if there would be 75 states then how the elections will be conducted ?? And it would get extremely difficult for politicians to focus either on work or election jo har dusre hafte hote rahenge.
Please read the book. I have asked for complete separation of legislature and executive. If this is done elections become simpler and cheaper and their timing is irrelevant. Because the chief executive term is fixed. Without this legislature executive separation 75 states is a non-starter.
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Prof. Desiraju is a brilliant scientist and I have no doubts about that but here his analysis is problematic and childish. 1. He said he is proud to have 4 Muslim majority states in the 75 states he drew. What? This is unacceptable, we already know what is going on in Kashmir, we don't want 4 Kashmirs. He also didn't take care of aspirations of Kashmiri Pandits to have a separate state. 2. He says Bengal shouldn't be looked as safe place for Bengali Hindus, it's for every Indian. Wrong! If you globalize everything, how will you protect the culture of that place? Bengal is definitely for Bengalis just like Rajasthan is for Rajasthanis. 3. He is totally misguided with the question of Indian Muslims. He thinks economy can bring change in their mindset. Sir, the educated and rich Muslims are much more dangerous and radical than a poor Muslim because they know how to twist the arguments in favor. Your assumption is very poor here. I don't think it's a genuine effort of him to conceptualize 2nd Republic of India. It seems he has just articulated his normal thoughts without polishing them in a book. I won't say that he should stick to science only and not comment on these things because I think it's actually important to bring the scientific temper and objectivity in social studies but here he needs more grooming. Or it could be that as he said, he wrote the book to start a conversation only and have no intention of offering something profound.
20:00 The solution to the reservation/quota issue is to shrink the size of government and the number of government jobs to a trickle, automate it wherever possible w/ AI and retrain the bulk of the bureaucracy into new things, and ultimately shut down the UPSC and the IAS. Once that's done, you could have 110% reservations, and it wouldn't matter
@@haryanvi69 If you have colleges mushrooming - both private and public, and have remote learning as a component to complement the limitation of seats, there will be a way around that. Essentially, solution to this is the supply (of education) exceeding demand. It should also be recognized that not all jobs require even a school certificate, and we need to stop snubbing our noses at people who drop out
@@harishprabhakar9744 its importance is overrated: in this era of automation, bureaucratic jobs should be the easiest to automate, since file transfers b/w departments can be built into a computer work flow
This idea seems silly. 1. Adding few more states is not an issue for administrative viability. 2. The problem comes when you divide rich parts of the state into one new state and poor parts into another new state. The dependence of poor state increasingly depends on center. This happened with Bihar. 2. Few castes/tribes absolutely dominate the new state again like jharkhand. 3. Most importantly, new Muslim majority states may be formed with this foolish policy. Just with one kashmir as a Muslim majority we have been suffering. Imagine half a dozen Muslim states. While hindu states remain status-quo and expected to be secular. All Muslims stayed will be majoritarian character and nibble away minorities. There is no way to stop them. 4. Rather power delved properly and would be a better solution.
Only one correction, Gautam Desiraju Sir, your knowledge of Islam is poor. It was brilliant podcast and I will definitely buy the book. But you lack understanding of Islam. Arihant tried to Correct you. Please read Quran Hadees to know what islam is. Islam is very powerful and dangerous. Or just read the book 'understanding Muhammad' by Ali Sina. Pdf freely available on net. Islam is not just another religion. It's a fascist ideology
The topic needs sensitive handling by the government. Your view is statist. Mine is dynamic. Not more than 25% of the population of undivided India converted showing the great strength of Sanatana Dharma.
@Gautam Desiraju Sir, I have immense respect for you and your work. I am not a intellectual/scholar like you, so I apologise in advance if my argument seems misleading but please consider it with an open mind. My first argument is, Islam basically is Muhammadanism, or the cult of Muhammad. Muslisms are known as Muhammedans. It is the duty of every Muslim to follow Muhammad and become carbon copy of him. That's why if you want to know about Islam and Muslims, you have to read the life of Prophet, and his doing.(As I already suggested the book 'Understanding Muhammad' by Ali Sina, pdf freely available on net) You will see one to one relation between the doings of Muhammad in 7th century and what Muslims do today. If you know the life of Prophet, you will be able to predict what A Muslim will do in a hypothetical situation. My second argument is, It's duty of every Muslim to become the carbon copy of Muhammad. Osama bin Laden and Abu Bakr al baghdadi were real Muslims, or they tried to become cc of prophet Muhammad as much possible. Similarly all muslims try to become Prophet as much as possible. Some muslisms are 10% copy of prophet, some Muslims are 40% copy...... OBL and baghdadi were 90/95% copy of prophet. The more Muslisms become close to prophet muhammad the more radical/extreme they become. Pakistani Muslims maybe 50/60% copy of prophet. And Indian Muslim may be 20/30% (depending on State)copy of Muhammad i.e., less radical. But that's changing. The % is increasing. ANOTHER IMPORTANT POINT A MUSLIM IN ANDHRA PRDESH MAY BE 20% OF MUHAMMAD i.e. LESS RADICAL AND A MUSLIM IN UP MAY BE 40% COPY OF MUHAMMAD MEANING MORE RADICAL. But all the % are increasing. Like gravity all pulls, as a law of nature, this % is only increasing never decreasing, as a law of nature. For example 100 years back, most Muslims in Indian were Muslims in name only meaning 5/10 % copy of Muhammad. many followed Hindu practices. You can even see this in rare areas That's why Arya samaj were successful in doing Ghar wapsi of them. Then in response to that, started an organisation called tabhligi jamat. This organisation Teach Muslims what islam is and make them proper muslisms. This organisation was super successful and still is one the biggest organisation in this country, bigger than even RSS. They created a net of Madrasa around the country and trained Mullas. And from then the % is increasing and increasing. In future also this % will only increase all over India., May be not in uniform in all places at the same % but the trend is upward %. Local culture can hault this process for time , may delay it but it's inevitable when the population increases. Like water flows downward, similarly this % unless checked will go upwards in all over India, like law of nature. You can see the Arabisation of dressing of Muslims in all parts of the world. So it's just a matter of time (50/100/200 years) that Indian muslims also become as much extremists as Pakistan muslisms or Taliban Muslims. Remember Muslisms of afganistan or Pakistan were also less radicalised 100/200 years ago. And look at them now. Even Pakistani muslisms were very liberal and open in 1950s and 60s but look what happened. Same with Iran. So you are correct it's a dynamic situation but you are wrong about the direction. You think muslism are becoming more liberal/less radicalised. It's opposite. My third argument is, if you combine the total Muslim population Indian subcontinent then Muslims population will be 40% not 25%. Besides, even 25% Muslims are enough to devide the country in 1947. So don't underestimate them. And you are saying after 600 rule they only converted 25% which is also wrong. In 600 years they mostly rules northern and western India, and till 1947 they 100% converted Afganistan, 55% converted United Punjab, 80% converted Sindh, 100% converted Baluchistan, 60% converted United Bengal...... And with high TFR and love jihad their population is increasing more and more. Take Western UP for example, the Muslim population is increasing rapidly. Why? There is no migration. It's increasing because high TFR and love jihad. And western UP has most radicalised Muslims. Again apologies for unwarranted mistakes in my reply. And also request you to reflect on my argument. Another request you can search Tufail Chaturvedi on you tube and watch his videos on Islam, he is the best at this game. Plus again requesting you to read the book, 'understanding Muhammad ' by Ali Sina. Pdf freely available on net. Thanks for your kind attention Sir.
Will it be economically viable? I also wants my mithila back the janmbhumi of Mata Sita. I used to go valki ashram once in a year I don't know I feel some connection with Mata.
@@gautamdesiraju9717the British dried the regions of Bihar into a poverty hellhole. Besides used it as a mercenary state to destroy every other region and empire of Indian subcontinent. This one thing can create a nationalism - i mean the Bengal native army was a proper bihari Hindu army and rocked empires from Afghanistan to Bangladesh and Myanmar - struck them all down.. This was wiped out by British from historical records esepcially after 1857
We threw away jaati identification since 47. Look where that got us. More specifically look where it got Tamil Nadu- most Christian conversions than the rest of India. We don't need to throw away the people we came from and our lineages. That's asking for the downfall of our people. What we should be doing is actively teaching our children that varna and jaati are what make people unique and worthy of respect. That's how it was til the white man mansplained our own society to us. Whether you're a Brahmin, Kshatriya, Vaishya or Shudra, no matter what language or what jaati or ethnicity, we are all Hindu and need to give each other respect. We would not be where we were in history had our ancestors not contributed to society. Even today we need doctors, lawyers, etc but we also need sanitation workers, restaurant workers, etc. Your profession doesn't designate how much respect you should be given. That's a colonizer way of treating people are human or subhuman. They wanted to replicate their master vs serf system here, as well as Islamic Ashraf vs Ajlaf system. Every human has unique skill sets and wants and needs and hence every profession is needed for society to run. That's what our society believed before any invader came and that's what we need to instill in ourselves and others. Taking it all away has just led to infighting and bs narratives that further divide us because we are actively demonizing anyone who tries to go into history and tell the truth of what our society was like which doesn't serve the western normative narrative served to us during colonization and carried forward by our government til now.
And their are proof from the past, like: Hindu Genocide carried out in Malabar by Moppallas, direct action day, during partition, Kashmir etc. to name a few, they all were ordinary people. Although the call was given by Mullahs etc. But how a person of sound mind act so barabarically
1947 India became independent, little later India that us Bharath became a Republic. Please tell me Is India free I'm proud to be INDIAN Why then minorities Are they non INDIAN ?
Please add my lists too, if you want it should has some ethinical ISSUES 1) Assam should divided into Two states Barak Valley ( Home of Bengali Assamese) 2) Karbi Anglong Dima hasao for the Hilly areas of mikir hills which are different from Assamese. 3) Mithila is still too big so it should be divided into another state name Southern portion Anga Pradesh which speak angika language (Capital Bhagalpur) अंग प्रदेश 4) Tripura and Manipur Indigenous Regions should be Separated into Tripraland and Kukiland. 5) meghalaya should be divided into two parts Garoland and Khasiland because, because they had conflicts because they belong to two different language family. 6) Karnataka should have kodagu Or coorg as separate state. 7) Union territory should be abolish (Puducherry, Andaman, Daman and Lakshadweep Promote to States)
34:00 Odisha was the first linguistic state of India not Andhra Pradesh. Odisha was formed on 1st April 1936. Absolutely amazed to see the author of such a book doesn't know such a simple fact.
If odisha is first linguistic state than why Western Odisha region forcefully marched by some Politician of Uttakl in to Odisha provenance in 1936 and 1948???? Western Odisha is not a odia region,Western Odishas language is sambalpuri/Koshli which is different language from your Odia language.
49:30, sorry, Malla republic was not in Bengal. It was in north-east UP, also known as Saryupar, with twin capitals at Pava (present day Padauna) and Kushinara (present day Kushinagar).
Vaad is one of the best podcasts in India. Can't wait to listen each time an episode drops..
Correct, wonder why they haven't crossed the 100k mark yet
*an episode is dropped
Main thing is it's just simple and feels like a normal conversation,not some fancy talks
Ranveer alabhadia ka podcast hindi me vaad se mujhe better lagta hai
@@govind.sharma3 but their subscription is very low
I am a Jain, and many of us consider no different from Hindus. Infact Jains are the most rightwinged people in India.
We are a part of India story, not some minority reservation monger.
Yes we are all Hindus. I'm a Maratha but 1st a Hindu .no question. And Yes there's alot to learn from Jains. They are very smart, don't fall for propoganda stay united. I wonder if it's because they are vegetarians🧐
@@Itachi_Uchia1 😳😳😳😳😃
Jain are responsible and prideful people that’s why they are well respected and consider as brothers by our beloved Hindu, Sikhs and Buddhist communities. We all are one Dharmic religions
Ofcourse undoubtedly we are same
Glad to see Scientists now speak on Bharat Civilization values. Good signs
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Scientists were the rishis of past
@@Batv147 scientists equal to vaigyanik. Rishis were not just vaigyaniks.
I totally agree 💯👍
Wow! What a brilliant conversation with Prof GRD. Thanks a lot, Arihant bhai. Vaad needs at least a million subscribers😇
if you are accustomed to preferred treatment, equal treatment feels like discrimination-is accurate.
Amazing discussion.
Powerful directions.
Implementable solutions.
Let's look forward to a 75 state Bharat.
Thanks a lot Vaad🙏
Excellent book by Dr Gautam Desiraju. I read it. Agree with the need for more states. Agree with his analysis of faultlines. Do not agree with some of the methods he has stated can alleviate faultlines. Do not agree that we need to do away with council of states or Rajya Sabha. India is too corrupt and morally deficient polity and civilization right now to give power into the sole hands of a Lok Sabha.
40:43 Jammu should be a combination of present day Jammu and the Dogri speaking regions of Himachal Pradesh. We share the same culture.
Can be easily done.
Yes I also agree that Samba kathua udhampur Jammu Doda kishtwar should be merged with una , kangra , hamirpur , chamba and bilaspur
Need of the hour. Dogris have had enough of this Kashmir politics. It's time for Jammu to grow.
I know there are many folks who don't have the inclination to read the full book in depth, and find it easier to get the gist from a podcast medium like this. I appeal to you all to purchase the book regardless - it is not very expensive and most of us who follow such subjects can usually afford a small expense like this.
Even if you don't read it, please buy it and contribute to the success and further promotion of these sort of Indic ideas..
This is very nice of you to say. Yes, it is a book full of details and one cannot hope to get a full idea from a one hour podcast.
Kashi should become a state as soon as possible given the enormous Human Resource it can become a behemoth of an economic center.
Kashi/Sarnath was on the junction of Silk route/Uttara-Dakshin Pathas joining to international trade and domestic trade routes. Today the international routes are cut off due to partition. Expressways and waterways may change things domestically as well as internationally via Sagarmala/Bharatmala.
47:00 Amravati should be a part of Vidarbha, no matter which zone you put it in. It was ancient Kundinpur, which was the capital of the kingdom that Rukmini was from, and probably Dasharath's mother Indumati as well. I'd also rename Marathwada to Devagiri, as it was under the Chalukyas, and have Shambhajinagar as the capital
It will create more divide, we are Marathas we shouldn't divide further
@@Itachi_Uchia1 We should not have linguistic states. I largely agree w/ Prof Desiraju's layout: there will be multiple states where major languages are not just Hindi, but also Marathi, Bengali, Telegu, Tamil, etc
@@Itachi_Uchia1 I thought you are uchiha who killed his own clan
@@Push1781haha. Just like lord Krishna killed his own clansmen
@@Push1781itachi did it for the village
Dividing states doesn't sit well with me. We also have to take the sentiments of people and historical values into account. As a Marathi, Maharashtra is not just a state but a legacy of Chatrapati Shivaji Maharaj. I'm from Konkan with my family roots in west Maharashtra. Every district here has slightly distinct variations of dialects, even tehsils do and state divisions have major variations or completely different dialects. But the state is what unites us. Without Maharashtra, there won't be Marathi people, only Konkani, ghati, khandeshi, etc.
Moreover, it wil also result in much more money and time waste. Every now and then all over India, Time Energy Money gets wasted in village election then city election then state election then center election and then by-election 🧐
I don't think you understand anything about division of states based on the significant cultural identity.... Telangana region was neglected during combined AP rule because Andhra people were more in population and would always elect someone from Andhra region,and those leaders would always neglect Telangana regions culture, development and even accent of Telangana Telugu.... Similarly Rayalaseema region should also be separated from Present Andhra aa it will encourage leaders from those particular states to come forward and take up the leadership of developing their region....Our country should atleast be classified by 50states in a minimum...that is the least count
But this does sit well with Bihar
@@himeshthungaturthi3215 That's not the point at all. The division of Andhra is already happened and it was out of necessity. That doesn't mean we should chop it more into 4 peaces or maybe we should, I don't know much about Telangana, it's your state you know better.
But don't you think vidarbha region should be carve out of Maharashtra and make it a new state..
I like the idea. A small handlable administrative and political unit will be far better. Small states perform better.
What if a state turns into a Muslim majority like Kashmir
@@vamsikrishna3855 nothing happens. all are bhāratiyas.
@@vamsikrishna3855 something needs to be done about that before the states are divided....bcoz its well proven in history and neighbourhood that as soon as they become majority the radical ideologies starts to take control which will not be good for minority hindus and further expanding the trouble into other states.....
@@gautamdesiraju9717 i doub't it....
@@vamsikrishna3855 You know Israel is a very small country and Jews are very less in number. Yet they managed to change demography of parts of Israel and made Muslims minorities. Israel is surrounded by all muslim countries btw.
If Israel can do it, why can't India. Blame the Indian state for being stupid. Kashmir can be turned into Hindu majority if Indian state has the will to do it.
The professor is living in Dreamland if he thinks having Muslim majority state next to a Muslim majority country will create no security problems. Otherwise, the idea of having more number of smaller states is a good idea
True
Pakistan may not even be there in its present form ten years from now. I'm talking about a game plan for 2075.
@@gautamdesiraju9717 did not expect your reply, Professor! With respect, I was not talking about Pakistan but Bangladesh, since you mentioned a Muslim majority state in the Bengal border district. Jamaat-e-islaami groups are running roughshod in that country. Sheikh Hasina being in power has helped counter that a little, but she will not be there forever. Having such groups eventually run that country will be the same as having a second Pakistan at our border. Regarding Pakistan, both the U.S and China have their compulsions for keeping Pakistan going on for much longer than Indian state would like. I do not see Pakistan collapsing soon.
Secondly, Indian state is barely able to handle the terror, discrimination, and crime issues emerging from a Muslim majority state (Kashmir) and two highly populated Muslim states (Bengal and Kerala). I think it's too early to even think about adding on one more; Hindus and non-Muslims get a raw deal in such places.
@@sankalp3513 Yes for China, no for US. American attitudes towards Pakistan has changed ever since Abottabad in 2011: we no longer see them as an ally, but as a vassal of Beijing
Pakistan did not get off the FATF grey list, IMF bailout for "flood relief", and F-16 maintenance support because of China. It happened because of the U.S. Pakistan is fully a beggar of the U.S again because it offered its airspace to bomb Zawahiri. All those benefits I listed above were Pakistan's reward for being a good little boy. It is back to the business of collecting geopolitical rent. U.S is back in the business of using Pakistan to counter balance China.
Wow...Newer Bharat 2.0👍😊banne kee pratiksha rahegi...Dhanyvaad. Dr Desiraju. And Thank you Bhrata shri💐💐Pranaam
All Kannadigas are under the same reign for the first time since 1580s. We had so much movement after 1947 to put all Kanandigas in 1 state
Now north Karnataka wants to be a different state and Tulu Nadu wants a different state
His argument on Indian Muslims getting Sanatanised is factually incorrect and absolutely bogus. Ambedkar has said beautifully on this: common features are not the result of a conscious attempt to adopt and adapt to each other’s ways and manners to bring about social fusion. On the other hand, this uniformity is the result of certain purely mechanical causes. They are partly due to incomplete conversions."
Yes I agree he is making point considering the economic basis but how Islam work is totally different there are many well educated person even if u see the case of Kerala well educated person are lured for jihad and other anti national activities I think he didn't read well about Islamic theology how it's work if that the case mugal were economic richer still they were hounding other non believers and that the difference which he need to understand that islam divide the people on the basis of belives rather rich or poor and quoting pew survey i dont think it is totally true we need to look at how they asked questions which part of india they took survey whether they asked questions from Ashraf or Pasmanda muslim there is certain criteria need to be taken and considering sanatanisation of muslim is demeaning of Sanatan itself.
Exactly. Savarkar was scared of ignorant Hindus like these.
Read the book and especially the pages dealing with the Pew Report of 2021.
@@gautamdesiraju9717 Sir with due respect I humbly present to you that what you considered pew survey report is not entirely true and then extending to conclusion is not upto your standard of profession as well because the sample size is very less, how they frame the question that is also questionable, which part they focussed more on is also issue if u ask coastal karnataka, Kerala Muslims there view point about incarnation, believe ganga is holly etc is totally different then other part which have better hindu population to present himself as secular or there is less prevalence of madrasa and Al-e- hadees people presence . I have my own experience there were my closed muslim friends which always talk all sense of brother hood but they act quite different in closed circle so there outlook is quite different from what it's appears and it's called as Al- taqiya. U can read about it. But right now I am not convinced with your argument about Sanatization of muslims it's like same argument of Ganga Jamuna tahzeeb and we had seen what happened and it's disgrace to actual sanatan values as well. I would say it would be islamization of sanatan happened Thanks🙏
yeah wishful thinking, the reverse is happening.
I recently found about Vaad and am glad I found this. We need to tell the story of Bharat to our fellows first and then together we will echo it to the world. Arihant ji please ask your guest to recommend study materials or books.
Read Sita Ram Goel, Dharam Pal and R. C. Majumdar first.
This gentleman lives in an unreal world. He does not understand or does not want to face the reality of “minority” mindset.
See my earlier replies to others. There are 20 crore Muslims in India. This is a huge number. We must all find a solution and move forward.
@@gautamdesiraju971720 crore is an understatement, they are already 30 crores.
Great Podcast. Please bring AIM to discuss the reforms required in the Education, Judiciary and Police system. It will be a great podcast.
It would be nice to be in a program with AIM!
"Economically strong state with politically strong centre".
India doesn't need these shallow technocratic solutions, what India needs is revival of Vedic traditions. The Vedic traditions provide vitality, strength, hope and unity to people.
Also we need to abolish the democratic setup and establish a constitutional monarchy with limited powers. Democracy is the thing which is keeping India backward.
Who will be king
@@rbnjddmoral and virtuous and a doer is needed.
Very interesting and informative discussion 🙏🙏. It is very heartening to hear views of people from diverse disciplines on such issues. They bring a fresh perspective. Usually we only get to hear from politicians, lawyers and other "intellectuals" who seem to have nothing new to contribute.
Thanks
I'm from north maharashtra aka khandesh.. My mother tongue is ahirani language which is fusion of gujrati, marathi and hindi..
And khandeshi accent also whole different from rest of Maharashtra. So when someone from khandesh move to pune mumbai he/she always told by pune mumbai people that "please speak शुद्ध(pure,classy) marathi like us" even when khandeshi people speak text book marathi but it sound different because of accent.
Eventually in office place, colleges pune mumbai people force khandeshi people that change your accent.. Ab accent kaise change kare bhaiya, which is nearly impossible to change accent..
So avoiding this second class treatment in metros behalf of accent, khandeshi parents now speak in text book marathi in their home, so their children can't take khandeshi accent.. And apparently this killing ahirani(khandeshi) language and custom tradition related to it..
And this is my story also, I cant able to speak ahirani, in result I not identity local trees and local leafy vegetables which only available in that region, I not understand folk music in ahirani(khandeshi) language.. And this is really awful, and this killing my original identity..
In nutshell pune mumbai people self badge their accent as शुद्ध(pure) and all other marathi accent is अशुध्द(impure).. It just accent right!! How can your accent become pure and mine is impure..
Not know other region of Maharashtra but north maharashtra aka khandesh really need to Declare separate state..
Please Notice khandeshi also feel proud on shivaji maharaj..
This was one of the many important reasons why Telangana had to get separated from Andhrapradesh
By the way, what is the difference between Ahirani and Khandeshi?
is Khandeshi just a dialect of Marathi or is it a separate language like Konkani?
@@prashanthreddy3326 ahirani and khandeshi both are one, but known by two different name.. Khandeshi because its speak in khandesh region..
To be honest, ahirani is subsidiary language (उपभाषा) of marathi, with totally different dialect from rest of other marathi dialect..
And I guess, konkani also subsidiary language of Marathi..
@@roman5782 plus, we can protect culture and custom related to region..
Plus we bound with and associates with two different identities parallely, first one is konkani or khandeshi then marathi.. And having multiple identities always better than one. So if any anti india element such as missionaries want demolished our dharma, in resistance we always have that second identity to tackle them..
Aani tya region kontya kshetrat kiti panyat aahe, Tehi kalun jain, aani tya var kaam hou shakel.. Jase khandesh ne local paryatanchya kshetrat kahich pragti nhi keli nhi aahe, pn he konkan aani sahyadri mule zaklya jat..
@@rahulmore4584 Call such a state Ahirani Pradesh, not Khandesh. Khandesh means desh of the Khans: we need to deislamize as many names as we can
I have subscribed your channel recently brother and i thank you with my heart to provide such brilliant contents across your podcasts.
Most of the ideas are very valid. Water sharing will be the most contested area in the future. People will fight to death for the scarce resource. Land can be divided into any number of pieces, but nature and resources can't be divided without igniting conflict. Rivers join civilisation. Language and culture divide it.
Everything is perfect but it is not possible to make 75 states in a night , it will take 20-30 years minimum. Dividing states in parliament is easy but on ground it is the hardest thing ever. Years research is required on the natural resources and water sources that none of the part will suffer.
Sir Andhra and Telangana issue is in front of us.
But yes I am supporter of this type of thinking ❤️
I'd like to see it by 2030
@@gautamdesiraju9717 Sir I appreciate your view because as we see in USA there are 50 states , it is much easier to govern them and make world class.
Thanks for giving us new type of thinking perception 🙏🏻🙏🏻
@@AmitJain-nd7krIndia is 3 times smaller than America
@@udaykiran5280 Uday Ji See Population wise that is the best way to see.
USA 33 Cr
Bharat 135 Cr
Nearly 4.2 times
That means More Governance needed.
If you average 135Cr / 75 States = 1.8 Crore people in each state.
And in USA 33Cr / 50 States = .66 Cr or 66 Lakh each states on an average.
Arihant bhai thank you for this amazing content...
12:00 From what I understand, if a Parsi does an interfaith marriage, he ceases to be Zoroastrian, which was the case w/ Firoz Gandhy and probably also w/ Zubin Irani. Although I've heard that Parsis have relaxed that rule in order to avoid going extinct. So I doubt that Smriti Irani is a Parsi, even if her husband still is. All that said, it was brilliant to make _her_ , instead of a muslim, Minority Affairs Minister. Although honestly, I don't think that department should even exist, since minorities - Sikhs, Buddhists, Christians, Parsis, Jains and Jews - have the same rights as Hindus, if not of muslims
That rule only applies to Zoroastrian women. Men can marry outside and retain their status.
Superb Talk as usual. It is important to hear the competent Bharatiya voices and collectively approach the reintegration of India.
Slow reform is better than the sudden, visible "revolution" which leads to extremist approach. Bending over backward being replaced by bending over forward will lead to a damaged back. Instead just slowly straighten the back.
Salami tactics is the best way to avoid someone of the old power state undermining the ultimate goal of Akhand Bhaarat.
State division needs to be very carefully planned to avoid the eruption of more potential majority areas which want to secede based upon their composition. We cannot suddenly become generous and concerned about feeling of ghettoization etc.
Your methodological concerns are perfectly valid. This book describes the strategy or plan. Maybe the next book can describe the methodology or how to execute the plan.
1:05:00 Finally I disagree w/ Prof Desiraju. Islam's political attributes cannot be separated from their 'religious' attributes: this is something that has been analyzed at length by doing an analysis of the life of Mohammed, as well as an actual analysis of the historicity of Mohammed and the real creation of islam. The reason so many Indian muslims are up for jihad is b'cos it's right there in quran and sunnah, and when he says 'radicalization', it means other muslims - local or foreign - pointing out to them what they are actually expected to do
Wonderful Knowledgeable Session. Thank You Both Of You 🙏🏻🌹🙏🏻
Best Wishes 💐💐💐
50:00 Why not just merge Darjeeling, Kurseong and adjoining Nepali speaking areas w/ Sikkim, which is very underpopulated?
31:00 No road in Delhi should be named after either the Mughals nor their Turkic predecessors. All of them should be renamed to someone b/w Mahabharat era Indraprastha - maybe the Pandavas - to Prithviraj Chauhan and Hemchandra Vikramaditya.
India needs this type scientists who can understand what is right and what is wrong Jai Hind vande Mataram 🔥🇮🇳
i read prof. desiraju's book...excellent book...but i have some few questions...had i known earlier that prof. coming i would have pose some questions....since book is already released
Upper caste will never allow lower caste to be at their level .. Not atleast for another 50 years .. Mindest will not change for another 50 yrs
There Must Be Respective States To Support The Dominion of Life and Culture of The Ancient Inhabitants... In Accordance With The Jurisdiction of Governance in Bharatavarsha. A Needful and Strategical Space for Involvement, Invention and Innovation in Upliftment, Well-being and Growth.. A Spirited Way..Devoid of The Fear of Existential Crisis.. Cruising to Enrich The Age-Old Culture and Ancient Heritage of Sanatana Bharatavarsha
Brilliant Discussion 👏👏. We really need reforms in our constitution
Countries have modified their Constitutions from time imemorial. Any foreign country (likely Western liberal democracies) that complain if India does so should be told off in no uncertain terms.
Absolutely correct you are.
I also believe same, many more states to be created in Bharat
I lived in both Telangana and Andhra, they speak the same language with different pronunciation, Telangana people feel uncomfortable in Andhra. The fight for a separate Telangana state was very nasty to say the least, there was a bit superiority complex among the Andhrites owing to its more colorful past. For a Telangana person, orrisa and Andhra were both alien, this feeling of not belonging is always bad, it leads to conflicts. Telangana people have self belief, not many minority cultures feel capable and confident. They felt Andhra was flourishing at their cost and they did not want it to continue.
There is case for small human cooperation among states, we can not go back to medieval outlook, mistrust was encouraged and nurtured in less informed times. Priority of one zone over the other, even when language is the same creates mistrust and animosity. A people feeling sidelined must be heard.
A bit disappointed when the speaker says India is culturally vibrant in North of India, South India existed prior to North came to form, North is just 3000 years old, they became Indian because they wanted a better cultural life. Big surprise, he fails to see the depth of South Indian Civilization.
Only a big human culture unite humans, high level of trust is the basis for a human culture. Our big world needs goibal citizen, if you can not see global you are medieval. While there is a case for many more Telangana in India,, because language does not unite prople, there is also the case for a sophisticate global human, a few decades ago many upper class Whites/ Europeans were brought up to fear of India and its culture, now due to increased fact and experience circulating all over there is more trust and confidence among people. A white woman will marry an Indian, an Indian may marry a virtous Chinese woman. Our ancient views of each other keep changing, facts become important, fictional narratives lose hold.
Penetration of knowledge and common virtues make all humans important. We need to live out of experience, Constitution must be amended to accommodate factual experience rather recommend impractical imagined priorities.
A rich country like USA has many ethnicities and cultures, they became a strong nation because they made the differences not too important, it makes a common dysfunctional, rule of law and a unifying language made them stronger than Europe. Europe is still finding it difficult to address regional differences.
Andra people invest in Hyderabad and developed it and after development people think telengana is earning more and we should get more development than Andhra. But Andhra is developed mainly because of coast and geography not because of AP people discrimination.
It's the same case now with south states vs north states where people say south is paying more tax than north but north is getting more budget. It will lead to the same situation. If you developed one city which is not yours those people say it happened because of them without caring about other factors and expect special status.
1) Concentrating political power in one place might also make it easier to conquer like what happened in Persia/Indonesia. Even natural calamities or black swan events would be a big risk.
2) NaPak is a classic example of concentrating all power in Urdu, Punjabistan and Army. If any One group can make all the decisions they WILL. Only when they HAVE to take others along and compromise that they will be flexible and adaptive. NaPak vs Bdesh is classic example.
3) Balancing power between Centre and States might reduce the Panipat syndrome. No single point of failure like in USSR. Internet is designed to work even if multiple nodes fail or get compromised.
4) Having a good ruler at Centre might work for some time. What happens if ruler changes behaviour or gets replaced by incompetent/destructive one? Nobody left to oppose or counterbalance or replace them. Mega PM with midget CMs will become the norm. We have seen this happen earlier as well.
5) If we don't learn from history and see what worked, what didn't and how to build RESILIENT structures not just in physical infra but also organisational infra then it'll just be a repeat of old mistakes.
40:45 I was originally from Kolkata. What is the name of the state you have b/w Pashchim Bangla and Jharkand? I would have given some more historical touches to this division, just like you did in Tamil Nadu: W Bengal would have been divided into Anga, Banga and Suhma, Suhma being the Ghoti belt west of the Hoogly. I liked your dividing up Bihar into Mithila and Magadh, but I would also annex some of the eastern part of Mithila to Anga. I'd also transfer Darjeeling to Sikkim: Gorkhaland can have all that
Also, in Rajasthan, I would merge Ajmer w/ the state east of it, and call it Ranthambor. Also, I'd call Amravati as Vidharba, and have either Amravati or Nagpur as the capital. I liked your idea of Avanti (my preference: Avantika, like it was during Mahabharat times) as the name of the state that contains Ujjain and Indore. I also loved the Kosal - different from Avadh - finds its place on the map
One more suggestion: each of these states should have a capital that is a very underpopulated area, not the #1 city of the state in question. Like Kolkata, Mumbai, Pune, Hyderabad would not be the capitals of the states that they were in. In some cases, I'd have a historic capital in order to resurrect that place. For instance, Warangal would be my capital for Telengana, and Devagiri/Deogiri would be the capital of Marathwada.
Also, as I noted in my other comment above/below, for the North Karnataka part of the state, I'd try to recreate Vijayanagar, and de-emphasize the Bahmani areas. As you know, during the Bahmani sultanate, they had Gulbarga, Bidar and Bijapur, which later split into 5 sultanates. Vijayapur, as it is now called, and Raichur, would be a part of Vijayanagar, while Bidar and Gulbarga might go to that state just south of it
At any rate, I like the direction of your thinking into this
Anga's capital munger is in Bihar. Rest of the parts were in Bengal.
@@piyushjaiswal9283 Then it would be the capital of Anga. Current state borders needn't be preserved. Incidentally, I thought that Karnasuvarna, near Murshidabad, was his capital
East Singhbhum, Pakur should be included in Mallapur. Because Historically it was part of Bengal and most of people are Bengali there. And make jamshed Pur or asansol as capital.
This is why discussion is needed. To fine tune the broad general idea.
@@gautamdesiraju9717 sir, even Telangana should be divided into Uttara Telangana, Dakshina Telangana and Dandakāranya (Medaram-Bhadrachalam-Chinturu belt)
Andhra should be divided into UttarAndhra, Godavari, Krishna and DakshinAndhra
Rayalaseema should be divided into Rayalaseema state and Tirupati state.
Bengal was divided into numerous polities & kingdoms. Modern day bengal is British creation like every other state.
Include parts of Tibet, Pak, B'desh, Srilanka to Indian Subcontinent State's.
Wow ! Brilliant podcast. Another milestone for Arihant
75 states will not the basic problem of administration. Reforms in administration will solve it.
Exponential economic growth will not happen. Only linear growth.
Professor Desiraju is right about Kashi, it is the unofficial centre of the Bhojpur region as well as a mini Bharath in itself. You can easily find tamil, telugu, kannada, nepali, punjabi, marathi, etc all in this one little city. The BHU has already made Kashi the educational and medical capital of the region as most people go there rather than capital Lucknow.
Kashi is the microcosm of modern Bhārat.
Kashi is the most sacred place for most of the Hindus in Bhārat.
Very correct questions/discussion put up by Arihant bhai👌🙏🕉🚩
Back in my fauji days, in the evening there used to be this utopia discussion about how we should build small states and make India powerful, by 2050 except almost everybody had a glass of alcohol and some were drunk, I had a cynical laugh then,happy to see quarter century later we have similar discussion in a public forum
Please bring Anuj Dhar once.
But sir for ex if a state like up is divided it will increase dominance of one group or caste because in present up no community is very strong throughout the up but strong in some regions
as people got educated no one buys this caste / group argument
UP should be divided
its too big too handle
@@Ishantyagiofficial You are wrong ,as someone coming from a city filled with govt employs their are very castiest too and most of jaat employees are against bjp and always support jat leaders,even though they are educated and are at a good level
@@Ishantyagiofficial There would be always casteism or caste pride
@@Ishantyagiofficial For ex go to delhi ncr region you would see dominance of local caste groups despite that most of them are educated
@@haryanvi69 if there would be people like you then sure
47:00 I like your idea of zones, and it's similar to the hierarchical system of federation that Russia has, where they have federal subjects, krais and so on. Only thing I might change : I might allow there to be 5 'virtual regions' and let each state choose which virtual region it wants to be a part of, and allow this to be dynamic - change w/ every election. Also, I would have fixed election terms - say presidential elections every non-leap even year (2026, 2030...) and midterms every leap year (2028, 2032...) which would include nationwide state elections. That way, government is not campaigning all the time, and every government is stable due to these fixed terms
do a podcast with Rajiv ji when he will be in India coming feb
I am a half brhamin (mothers side) and half Yadav from fathers side yet I never had the opportunity to get reservation and had to pay complete fees for college.
Yadav are in obc
Don't tell lie
@@harishprabhakar9744 in my state ap yadav is obc
Bihar should be divided into 4 part
Did he used Abhijit Iyer Mitra's name in caption to get the views and later changed it to Prof. Its disrespectful to both and the audience!
No. We didn’t. It’s a platform that has deliberately avoided inviting many folks who would’ve got us lakhs of views. So request you to check twice before making such allegations please 🙏🏼
no no no not 75 askhoole.....we need 500 State......lol lol lol
Divinding 50 states with equal representation of each state with 11-12 mp seat & equal representation in rajya sabha also.
Along with restructuring into 75 states, I also consider it important to abolish our messy federal structure and have a unitary structure and a centralised administrative system with sub-ordinates placed at the regional/state level and local levels. It can work in the form of a tier system. This is important to unite us under a common mationhood and administration or else if every states work autonomously like now then India seems like a union rather than a civilisational state.
First problem: Despite being there regional parties not went National, this doviding will reduce political power .
Second : What about the budget that are based on most financial city of state , rest state still lack infra , This is clearly a civil war plan
Wonder session sir your book and your look Jai Hind vande Mataram 🔥🇮🇳
आदरणीय प्रधानमंत्री, भारत सरकार, नई दिल्ली, विषय - भारत में नए राज्य बनाने हेतु और राज्य पुनर्गठन आयोग बनाने हेतु, महोदय, भारत में काफी सालों से अलग और नए राज्य बनाने हेतु मांग चल रही है । कई राज्यों की मांग तो आजादी से पहले अंग्रेजों के समय से चल रही है और कई राज्यों की मांग देश की आजादी के बाद से चल रही है । लेकिन इतना संघर्ष करने के बाद भी पिछली सरकारों ने अभी तक काफी कम नए राज्य बनाएं है । जो भारत के राज्यों की जनसंख्या और क्षेत्रफल को देखते हुए ना के बराबर है । भारत के काफी राज्य जनसंख्या और क्षेत्रफल में विश्व के कई देशों से बड़े हैं । भारत के काफी राज्य जनसंख्या और क्षेत्रफल में इतने बड़े हैं कि अगर आने वाले समय में इन राज्यों ने अलग देश की मांग कर ली और यूनाइटेड नेशन में अपनी बात रख ली, तो इनको अलग देश घोषित करना पड़ेगा । इन सब खतरों को देखते हुए भारत में नए राज्य और छोटे राज्य बनाने बहुत जरूरी है । भारत के काफी राज्य विकास की दृष्टि से काफी पिछड़ गए हैं । काफी राज्य बड़े होने के कारण इन राज्यों के लोग अपनी भाषा, संस्कृति, खानपान और पहनावे को बचा नहीं पा रहे हैं । कुछ राज्य क्षेत्रफल के आधार पर, कुछ राज्य जनसंख्या के आधार पर बहुत बड़े हैं । भारत की जनसंख्या लगातार बढ़ रही है लेकिन जनसंख्यावृद्धि को देखते हुए इंडिया के प्रशासनिक ढांचा में कोई सुधार नहीं हुआ है, ना ही वह बढा है । अब जनसंख्या के आधार पर भारत में नए राज्यों की बहुत ज्यादा जरूरत है, ताकि हमारे देश का प्रशासनिक ढांचा सुधर सके । जब देश आजाद हुआ था, उसके बाद से खाली 5 नए राज्य बने हैं । बड़े राज्य और बड़ी जनसंख्या होने के कारण देश का विकास भी नहीं हो रहा है और प्रशासन हर जगह पर पहुंच नहीं पा रहा है । और इंडिया में जो भी छोटे राज्य हैं उनकी जीडीपी पर कैपिटा, एचडीआई सबसे अच्छा है, उदाहरण के तौर पर हरियाणा, केरला, उत्तराखंड और जो बड़े राज्य हैं क्षेत्रफल में और जनसंख्या में उनका जीडीपी पर कैपिटा और एचडीआई सबसे कम है । अमेरिका की जनसंख्या 33 करोड़ है लेकिन वहां पर 50 राज्य हैं, जर्मनी की जनसंख्या 8 करोड़ है, लेकिन वहां पर 16 राज्य हैं, जापान की जनसंख्या 12 करोड़ है, लेकिन वहां पर 45 राज्य हैं और भारत की जनसंख्या 140 करोड़ है लेकिन भारत में 28 राज्य है । इसलिए भारत में भी नए राज्य बनाए जाए । इंडिया में स्थाई रूप से राज्य पुनर्गठन आयोग बनाया जाए और इसका डिपार्टमेंट भी बनाया जाए । इसलिए केंद्र सरकार से निवेदन है कि भारत में राज्य पुनर्गठन आयोग बनाएं और भारत में नए राज्य बनाएं । भारत में पूर्वांचल, पश्चिमांचल, बुंदेलखंड, विदर्भ, मिथिला, कौशल, सौराष्ट्र, गोरखालैंड, टिपरालैंड, तुलुनाडु, मरूप्रदेश, भीलप्रदेश, बोडो़लैंड, विंध्यप्रदेश, मराठवाड़ा, करुनाडु, रायलसीमा, कोंगूनाडु, मत्स्यप्रदेश, महाकौशल, अवधप्रदेश, मालवा, खानदेश, कोंकण इन सभी राज्यों की काफी लंबे समय से बनाने की मांग चल रही है । इन क्षेत्रों के नागरिकों ने काफी आंदोलन, धरना, प्रदर्शन किए हैं । इसलिए इन क्षेत्रों के नागरिकों की मांग को पूरा करके इनको राज्य बनाया जाए । केंद्र सरकार से निवेदन है कि भारत में उत्तर प्रदेश में पूर्वांचल, पश्चिमांचल, बुंदेलखंड, अवधप्रदेश, महाराष्ट्र में विदर्भ, मराठवाड़ा, खानदेश, कोंकण, राजस्थान में मरूप्रदेश, भीलप्रदेश, मत्स्यप्रदेश, बिहार में मिथिला, उड़ीसा में कौशल, गुजरात में सौराष्ट्र, मध्यप्रदेश में विंध्यप्रदेश, महाकौशल, मालवा, पश्चिम बंगाल में गोरखालैंड, आसाम में बोडोलैंड, त्रिपुरा में टिपरालैंड, आंध्र प्रदेश में रायलसीमा, कर्नाटक में तुलुनाड, करुनाडु, तमिलनाडु में कोंगूनाडु राज्यों का निर्माण किया जाए । #राज्य_पुनर्गठन_आयोग_बनाओ #भारत_में_नए_राज्य_बनाओ #पूर्वांचल #पश्चिमांचल #बुंदेलखंड #विदर्भ #मिथिला #कौशल #सौराष्ट्र #गोरखालैंड #टिपरालैंड #तुलुनाडु #मरूप्रदेश #भीलप्रदेश #बोडो़लैंड #विंध्यप्रदेश #मराठवाड़ा #करुनाडु #रायलसीमा #कोंगूनाडु #मत्स्यप्रदेश #महाकौशल #अवधप्रदेश #मालवा #खानदेश #कोंकण भवदीय
Kashi/Sarnath was on the junction of Silk route/Uttara-Dakshin Pathas joining to international trade and domestic trade routes. Today the international routes are cut off due to partition. Expressways and waterways may change things domestically as well as internationally via Sagarmala/Bharatmala.
I don't think 75 new state but we need atleast 10 new states in India ........
The idea and concept put up is in benefit of the country. 🙏
Once all corrupt politicians are behind bars, caste and religion will have no place in society
Agreed sir 👍
Great conversation ❤️
Disagree with 75 states thing. I am ok with more states but not with 75.
Divide UP, Bihar, If needed Maharashtra (I don't suggest)
Divide UP, Bihar in these states
West UP
Awadh
Purvanchal (with West Bihar part, bhojpuri speaking area)
Bundelkhand
Mithila rajya
Magadh rajya
It will have average population of 6-7crore and linguistically homonized and it will help us in removing the fear of UP, Bihar dominating whole india and it will help in making administration good
I am not Ok with 75 states but may be 35-40 states.
More federal states may or maynot be good idea. One issue is complete dominance of Hindi heartland in politics and decision-making. Will this resolve this issue I am not sure. This may increase hindiwalas dominance further.
he's not proposing greater federalism in terms of politics, only economics. local - sub-state governments should have more power
Esne hindi speaking states ko divide Kar diya hhhhh
Aur south ke big states ko bhi aur
Education ko state par chhoda hhhhh
Ye sirf economy ke liye
Aur main up se hoon Aur main khud chhahta hoon up 4 states me divide ho aur tamilnadu, aur karnataka bhi small states bane
We must change the constitution to reform & make corrections
Instead of breaking India into 75 states distribution of condoms in UP and Bihar is required.
India Not need 75 states.
India need
56 states. For Better development and Rule
Not sure about 75, but states number should go up.
I agree with the author ....but reorganization doesn't mean that we need 75 states....small state has some limitations.....it needs lots of time and vision.....
At present we atleast need 10 more states..... specially:
UP..
M.P.....
Bihar...
West Bengal....
Maharashtra...
Karnataka..
Assam
tamilnadu......
Rajasthan must be re organised....for better development 🙏🙏
Jammu and Kashmir should be divided into Jammu and Kashmir two different states.
Totally agree
@@gautamdesiraju9717 Kashmir me militancy chalu hhh
Aur wo to pakistan Jane ko taiyaar blithe h
Jammu aur Kashmir ka ek culture h esliye unhe sath rehna chhahiye
What a line of statement
"Constitution is not a Holy Book"
Brahmins vs non-brahmins was only in Tamilnadu. Not in any other south Indian states.
I am just wondering if there would be 75 states then how the elections will be conducted ?? And it would get extremely difficult for politicians to focus either on work or election jo har dusre hafte hote rahenge.
Please read the book. I have asked for complete separation of legislature and executive. If this is done elections become simpler and cheaper and their timing is irrelevant. Because the chief executive term is fixed. Without this legislature executive separation 75 states is a non-starter.
@@gautamdesiraju9717 Okay Sir 🙂
Divided,विभाजन , टुकड़े , हिस्से ,बांटना चाहिए ,अलग कर देना चाहिए, इत्यादि इत्यादि नकारात्मक शब्दों का प्रयोग बिल्कुल ना करें
सिर्फ पुनर्गठन और रीऑर्गेनाइज्ड जैसे positive शब्दों का ही ज्यादा से ज्यादा इस्तेमाल करें नकारात्मक शब्द शातिर, धूर्त, नेताओं को उभरने का मौका देगा
क्योंकि act भी पुनर्गठन है
Parliamentary Standing committees,Topper बच्चों,बड़े, बूढों,बुज़ुर्गों,नेता,मंत्री,अधिकारियों द्वारा सोची समझी साज़िश करके बड़े-बड़े प्रदेश,शहर,मंडल,zones,wards, बड़े blocks,बड़े नगर पंचायत, नगर पालिका,बड़ी ग्राम सभा, ग्राम पंचायतें बनाके भारत की सब प्रकार की दिक्कतों,परेशानियों,अपराधों गंदगी व नंगई दुनिया को पता ही नहीं चलने दी जा रही है
भारत का 100 प्रदेशों में पुनर्गठन करना और छोटे-छोटे शहर,गांव,मंडल,zones,wards, छोटे blocks,छोटी नगर पंचायत, नगर पालिका,छोटी ग्राम सभा,ग्राम पंचायतें बनाना तत्काल आवश्यक है
जिससे साल में एक बार कोई बड़ा नेता,मंत्री,विधायक,सांसद या कोई बड़ा अधिकारी मुख्य सचिव,ssp,ig,dig,सभी विभागों से कोई बड़ा अधिकारी हर परिवार के घर जाके या उन्हें अपने office बुलाके 2 minute के तय समय के लिए मिल सकें यह तभी संभव है जब हर राज्य 50 लाख से 2 crore तक का हो तभी भारत की संकल्पना बच सकेगी वरना अमीर और ज्ञानी लोग तो भारत में मानते ही नहीं
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Prof. Desiraju is a brilliant scientist and I have no doubts about that but here his analysis is problematic and childish.
1. He said he is proud to have 4 Muslim majority states in the 75 states he drew. What? This is unacceptable, we already know what is going on in Kashmir, we don't want 4 Kashmirs. He also didn't take care of aspirations of Kashmiri Pandits to have a separate state.
2. He says Bengal shouldn't be looked as safe place for Bengali Hindus, it's for every Indian. Wrong! If you globalize everything, how will you protect the culture of that place? Bengal is definitely for Bengalis just like Rajasthan is for Rajasthanis.
3. He is totally misguided with the question of Indian Muslims. He thinks economy can bring change in their mindset. Sir, the educated and rich Muslims are much more dangerous and radical than a poor Muslim because they know how to twist the arguments in favor. Your assumption is very poor here.
I don't think it's a genuine effort of him to conceptualize 2nd Republic of India. It seems he has just articulated his normal thoughts without polishing them in a book. I won't say that he should stick to science only and not comment on these things because I think it's actually important to bring the scientific temper and objectivity in social studies but here he needs more grooming. Or it could be that as he said, he wrote the book to start a conversation only and have no intention of offering something profound.
20:00 The solution to the reservation/quota issue is to shrink the size of government and the number of government jobs to a trickle, automate it wherever possible w/ AI and retrain the bulk of the bureaucracy into new things, and ultimately shut down the UPSC and the IAS. Once that's done, you could have 110% reservations, and it wouldn't matter
What about college reservations
@@haryanvi69 If you have colleges mushrooming - both private and public, and have remote learning as a component to complement the limitation of seats, there will be a way around that. Essentially, solution to this is the supply (of education) exceeding demand. It should also be recognized that not all jobs require even a school certificate, and we need to stop snubbing our noses at people who drop out
No state worked without bureaucracy
@@harishprabhakar9744 its importance is overrated: in this era of automation, bureaucratic jobs should be the easiest to automate, since file transfers b/w departments can be built into a computer work flow
This idea seems silly.
1. Adding few more states is not an issue for administrative viability.
2. The problem comes when you divide rich parts of the state into one new state and poor parts into another new state. The dependence of poor state increasingly depends on center. This happened with Bihar.
2. Few castes/tribes absolutely dominate the new state again like jharkhand.
3. Most importantly, new Muslim majority states may be formed with this foolish policy. Just with one kashmir as a Muslim majority we have been suffering. Imagine half a dozen Muslim states. While hindu states remain status-quo and expected to be secular. All Muslims stayed will be majoritarian character and nibble away minorities. There is no way to stop them.
4. Rather power delved properly and would be a better solution.
Only one correction, Gautam Desiraju Sir, your knowledge of Islam is poor. It was brilliant podcast and I will definitely buy the book. But you lack understanding of Islam. Arihant tried to Correct you.
Please read Quran Hadees to know what islam is. Islam is very powerful and dangerous.
Or just read the book 'understanding Muhammad' by Ali Sina. Pdf freely available on net. Islam is not just another religion. It's a fascist ideology
The topic needs sensitive handling by the government. Your view is statist. Mine is dynamic. Not more than 25% of the population of undivided India converted showing the great strength of Sanatana Dharma.
@Gautam Desiraju Sir, I have immense respect for you and your work. I am not a intellectual/scholar like you, so I apologise in advance if my argument seems misleading but please consider it with an open mind.
My first argument is, Islam basically is Muhammadanism, or the cult of Muhammad. Muslisms are known as Muhammedans. It is the duty of every Muslim to follow Muhammad and become carbon copy of him. That's why if you want to know about Islam and Muslims, you have to read the life of Prophet, and his doing.(As I already suggested the book 'Understanding Muhammad' by Ali Sina, pdf freely available on net) You will see one to one relation between the doings of Muhammad in 7th century and what Muslims do today. If you know the life of Prophet, you will be able to predict what A Muslim will do in a hypothetical situation.
My second argument is, It's duty of every Muslim to become the carbon copy of Muhammad. Osama bin Laden and Abu Bakr al baghdadi were real Muslims, or they tried to become cc of prophet Muhammad as much possible. Similarly all muslims try to become Prophet as much as possible. Some muslisms are 10% copy of prophet, some Muslims are 40% copy...... OBL and baghdadi were 90/95% copy of prophet. The more Muslisms become close to prophet muhammad the more radical/extreme they become. Pakistani Muslims maybe 50/60% copy of prophet. And Indian Muslim may be 20/30% (depending on State)copy of Muhammad i.e., less radical. But that's changing. The % is increasing. ANOTHER IMPORTANT POINT A MUSLIM IN ANDHRA PRDESH MAY BE 20% OF MUHAMMAD i.e. LESS RADICAL AND A MUSLIM IN UP MAY BE 40% COPY OF MUHAMMAD MEANING MORE RADICAL. But all the % are increasing. Like gravity all pulls, as a law of nature, this % is only increasing never decreasing, as a law of nature. For example 100 years back, most Muslims in Indian were Muslims in name only meaning 5/10 % copy of Muhammad. many followed Hindu practices. You can even see this in rare areas That's why Arya samaj were successful in doing Ghar wapsi of them. Then in response to that, started an organisation called tabhligi jamat. This organisation Teach Muslims what islam is and make them proper muslisms. This organisation was super successful and still is one the biggest organisation in this country, bigger than even RSS. They created a net of Madrasa around the country and trained Mullas. And from then the % is increasing and increasing. In future also this % will only increase all over India., May be not in uniform in all places at the same % but the trend is upward %. Local culture can hault this process for time , may delay it but it's inevitable when the population increases. Like water flows downward, similarly this % unless checked will go upwards in all over India, like law of nature. You can see the Arabisation of dressing of Muslims in all parts of the world. So it's just a matter of time (50/100/200 years) that Indian muslims also become as much extremists as Pakistan muslisms or Taliban Muslims. Remember Muslisms of afganistan or Pakistan were also less radicalised 100/200 years ago. And look at them now. Even Pakistani muslisms were very liberal and open in 1950s and 60s but look what happened. Same with Iran. So you are correct it's a dynamic situation but you are wrong about the direction. You think muslism are becoming more liberal/less radicalised. It's opposite.
My third argument is, if you combine the total Muslim population Indian subcontinent then Muslims population will be 40% not 25%. Besides, even 25% Muslims are enough to devide the country in 1947. So don't underestimate them. And you are saying after 600 rule they only converted 25% which is also wrong. In 600 years they mostly rules northern and western India, and till 1947 they 100% converted Afganistan, 55% converted United Punjab, 80% converted Sindh, 100% converted Baluchistan, 60% converted United Bengal......
And with high TFR and love jihad their population is increasing more and more. Take Western UP for example, the Muslim population is increasing rapidly. Why? There is no migration. It's increasing because high TFR and love jihad. And western UP has most radicalised Muslims.
Again apologies for unwarranted mistakes in my reply. And also request you to reflect on my argument. Another request you can search Tufail Chaturvedi on you tube and watch his videos on Islam, he is the best at this game.
Plus again requesting you to read the book, 'understanding Muhammad ' by Ali Sina. Pdf freely available on net.
Thanks for your kind attention Sir.
Will it be economically viable?
I also wants my mithila back the janmbhumi of Mata Sita.
I used to go valki ashram once in a year I don't know I feel some connection with Mata.
We are on the same wavelength. Read the book!
@@gautamdesiraju9717the British dried the regions of Bihar into a poverty hellhole. Besides used it as a mercenary state to destroy every other region and empire of Indian subcontinent. This one thing can create a nationalism - i mean the Bengal native army was a proper bihari Hindu army and rocked empires from Afghanistan to Bangladesh and Myanmar - struck them all down..
This was wiped out by British from historical records esepcially after 1857
We threw away jaati identification since 47. Look where that got us. More specifically look where it got Tamil Nadu- most Christian conversions than the rest of India. We don't need to throw away the people we came from and our lineages. That's asking for the downfall of our people. What we should be doing is actively teaching our children that varna and jaati are what make people unique and worthy of respect. That's how it was til the white man mansplained our own society to us. Whether you're a Brahmin, Kshatriya, Vaishya or Shudra, no matter what language or what jaati or ethnicity, we are all Hindu and need to give each other respect. We would not be where we were in history had our ancestors not contributed to society. Even today we need doctors, lawyers, etc but we also need sanitation workers, restaurant workers, etc. Your profession doesn't designate how much respect you should be given. That's a colonizer way of treating people are human or subhuman. They wanted to replicate their master vs serf system here, as well as Islamic Ashraf vs Ajlaf system. Every human has unique skill sets and wants and needs and hence every profession is needed for society to run. That's what our society believed before any invader came and that's what we need to instill in ourselves and others. Taking it all away has just led to infighting and bs narratives that further divide us because we are actively demonizing anyone who tries to go into history and tell the truth of what our society was like which doesn't serve the western normative narrative served to us during colonization and carried forward by our government til now.
Disagree. The less the number of states the more is the unity!
Number of states has nothing to do with unity.
I suppose, Prof. Gautam doesn't know about Quran.
Some take their religious book or books literally. Majority don't.
@@gautamdesiraju9717 Sir, I think it is other way round?
And their are proof from the past, like: Hindu Genocide carried out in Malabar by Moppallas, direct action day, during partition, Kashmir etc. to name a few, they all were ordinary people. Although the call was given by Mullahs etc. But how a person of sound mind act so barabarically
1947 India became independent, little later India that us Bharath became a Republic.
Please tell me
Is India free
I'm proud to be INDIAN
Why then minorities
Are they non INDIAN
?
Please read the early part of Chapter 2.
minorities are non indian?
who said so?
Sir have you given a thought to what will happen to the districts if this is taken forward? What about administrative services? Policing hierarchy?🙏
Please read the book. Both your questions are hopefully addressed.
@@gautamdesiraju9717 will surely do.🙏
40:40 Wow
Loved it.
Please add my lists too, if you want it should has some ethinical ISSUES 1) Assam should divided into Two states Barak Valley ( Home of Bengali Assamese) 2) Karbi Anglong Dima hasao for the Hilly areas of mikir hills which are different from Assamese. 3) Mithila is still too big so it should be divided into another state name Southern portion Anga Pradesh which speak angika language (Capital Bhagalpur) अंग प्रदेश 4) Tripura and Manipur Indigenous Regions should be Separated into Tripraland and Kukiland. 5) meghalaya should be divided into two parts Garoland and Khasiland because, because they had conflicts because they belong to two different language family. 6) Karnataka should have kodagu Or coorg as separate state. 7) Union territory should be abolish (Puducherry, Andaman, Daman and Lakshadweep Promote to States)
34:00 Odisha was the first linguistic state of India not Andhra Pradesh. Odisha was formed on 1st April 1936. Absolutely amazed to see the author of such a book doesn't know such a simple fact.
We're talking about independent India.
If odisha is first linguistic state than why Western Odisha region forcefully marched by some Politician of Uttakl in to Odisha provenance in 1936 and 1948???? Western Odisha is not a odia region,Western Odishas language is sambalpuri/Koshli which is different language from your Odia language.
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Near Sekhawati there must be Bharatpur.
49:30, sorry, Malla republic was not in Bengal. It was in north-east UP, also known as Saryupar, with twin capitals at Pava (present day Padauna) and Kushinara (present day Kushinagar).
Bengal, UP etc did not exist in the times of the Malla Republic.
@@gautamdesiraju9717 but saryu and gandak were there. And saryupar is the region bounded by these rivers.
And that's where Malla was
@@gautamdesiraju9717mallas lived to the west of modern day Bihar. And indeed , the ruling class were sainthwar - other Kurmis and Kshatriya groups