Byrd: Ne irascaris Domine - Tallis Scholars
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- Опубликовано: 23 мар 2020
- William Byrd: Ne irascaris Domine
The Tallis Scholars
Peter Phillips
Score: www.cpdl.org (Chris Pilgrim)
Performed a semitone above written pitch.
Ne irascaris Domine satis,
et ne ultra memineris iniquitatis nostrae.
Ecce respice populus tuus omnes nos.
Civitas sancti tui facta est deserta,
Sion deserta facta est, Jerusalem desolata est.
=== ENGLISH ===
Be not angry, O Lord,
and remember our iniquity no more.
Behold, we are all your people.
The city of your holy one has become a wilderness.
Zion has become a wilderness,
Jerusalem has been made desolate. 
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A fitting lament for these times, I think.
5:20 - perhaps inspired Beethoven's lament of his hearing deserting him, theme of Appassionata movement 2.
This is such a masterpiece. Obviously the "Sion deserta facta est" passage is jaw-dropping, but so is the sheer motivic density of "desolata est." Just when you're sure Byrd can't possibly have any more gorgeous tunes up his sleeve, he pulls this one out and packs it in there so copiously. Brilliant. 6:18 through the end.
Excellent tempo! This is one of my favorites and you sang it beautifully!!
Fantastic...Thank you!
The Tallis Scholars are the definitive interpreters of Byrd - compare this 'well tempo'd' version with the indulgent (full of inappropriate rubato) version by Voces 8 (also on RUclips). No comparison. This is a great rendition of one of Byrd's most searing motets - 'desolata est' is sublime.
I can appreciate your perspective, but I would counter that it depends on what your metric is. Rubato may not be period-appropriate, but Voces8's use of it matches the stress of the lament in the lyrics. To me, their version breathes and cries and pleads so much more. When it comes to blend and tuning, I agree that there's no comparison: Voces8 is unmatchable. But again, that depends on what style of choral approach you prefer.
They are ‘unmatchable in blend and tuning’ because and only because their recordings are all heavily edited - extra reverb always helps! Listen to their live performances - sounds nothing like that.
@@bp-lx7lf I have listened to them live, and think your comment is very unfair. What's your beef?!
@@christopherdavies7758 I think they set an unattainable standard with their recordings which I have seen many small choirs unwisely set themselves up to try and imitate - they are undeniably a fabulous group of singers but I would prefer them to rely less upon performing in highly reverberant rooms and more upon genuine blend. The main issue seems to be increasing the decay time of notes at the end of the phrases to make the sound seem more ‘continuous’. So if I have a beef it’s not with them as musicians so much as producers. Similar smaller groups such as The Sixteen don’t seem to suffer from the these problems to quite the same extent. FYI I have heard both groups live and thoroughly enjoyed each one - I just wish VOCES8 would make their recordings more of a representation of what it’s like to hear them on a stage. My original comment was perhaps a bit harsh but I stand by the point that their recordings don’t sound anything like their live performances (to a greater extent than most other choirs).
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One wonders why they are not called "The Byrd Scholars"? (singing Tallis, among other things).
They are singing a semitone higher than the score displayed.
In fact a minor third above Byrd's original pitch. This version is a tone up. So, as in most areas, the Tallis Scholars are at the correct pitch.