How to know a poem is finished - How to write better poetry

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  • Опубликовано: 28 июл 2024
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    This video 'borrows heavily' cough*STEALS*ahem from Simon Armitage's article for the Guardian back in 2008. You can read it for yourself and avoid my rambling nonsense: www.theguardian.com/books/2008...
    Anyway, this video explores the magic art of knowing when your poem is finished and you can stop editing it. Frankly, you can never know for sure, but at least this gives you something to hold on to.

Комментарии • 32

  • @exesti1
    @exesti1 3 года назад +12

    I write to give release. It’s how I’m able to express feelings and thoughts I find difficult to express to others. So sometimes it’s clunky, and doesn’t fit the rules, but if I can get it out of me... it doesn’t hurt so much. I think if I chose to write with the hopes of publication or for the benefit of others, this might help. Thanks for the video though, I’ll watch some of your others and see what there is to see.

  • @abstractbybrian
    @abstractbybrian 4 года назад +34

    I'm not sure I write poetry. I just write what I write. I love Charles Bukowski, it seems like he writes prose in verse format. I wrote this, is this poetry or what is it?
    THE NEIGHBORS
    are at it again?
    like a screaming soprano
    stabbing staccato
    singing arias in the air.
    waking me up at 3 am
    wrapping myself in a heavy blanket
    plugging my ears
    bracing myself to
    P
    M
    U
    J
    with the bang of the gun.

    • @L.AND007
      @L.AND007 4 года назад +4

      Please do share your writings

    • @milcentcuizon8286
      @milcentcuizon8286 4 года назад +3

      Intriguing

    • @swigswag3337
      @swigswag3337 2 года назад +1

      this was a year ago but i LOVE the effect you made with the JUMP

    • @gabicreightonbooksetc.
      @gabicreightonbooksetc. Год назад

      The bang and JUMP effect is awesome. The anticipation really came across. I love it!❤️
      Keep writing.😊

    • @williamorpheus2635
      @williamorpheus2635 4 месяца назад

      I love his "Love Is a Dog From Hell"

  • @deborahchinn2439
    @deborahchinn2439 Год назад +1

    My singular complaint is that I am only now discovering your lovely, articulate and helpful channel! Thank you, sir!

  • @ladybird491
    @ladybird491 6 лет назад +7

    As a well educated poet, I use many techniques in my work. It only become clunky when you use them too close together and often the same device or to much of the same device.

  • @maiblack448
    @maiblack448 2 года назад

    Loved this. Excellent content with a really natural style and delivery. Thank you.

  • @John-iy5bf
    @John-iy5bf 8 лет назад +3

    Thanks for this video. Know I want to go back and read my poetry and see which ones pass the test!

  • @mohamadkebbewar6827
    @mohamadkebbewar6827 4 года назад +1

    Thanks for posting this. Very inspiring.

  • @Serendip98
    @Serendip98 11 месяцев назад

    Interesting, I copied and pasted the article in order to re-read it quietly later. I saw that the English WP has a detailed article about Armitage, while the French seem to never have heard about him. Yet the few poems of him I read pleased me. Thanks for that discovery.

  • @learningease
    @learningease 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for teaching me

  • @DalCecilRuno
    @DalCecilRuno 5 лет назад +1

    Very useful. Thank you!

  • @DammikaChandani-ib4ku
    @DammikaChandani-ib4ku Год назад

    You are a great teacher. Well explained .

  • @dpakholly
    @dpakholly 2 года назад

    This is very helpful. Thanks!

  • @ladybird491
    @ladybird491 4 года назад +2

    Great tips but I think more clarity need to be given to new poets. The secret ingredient is also life awareness, some life lesson, also grief inside the painting of the poem. Poets need to ask if their poem look like the mood the poem has or subject matter? For example my poem about me and my sister and friends, it is set on the page to to look like the poem is posing. I made the poem feel tight the poem is to appear in a print magazine this fall. I am an excellent poet. New poets need to read my work. I have completed several classes in poetry and two poetry mentorships and currently scheduled to have 5 poems published in a print magazine. I also have other publications, and awards. I enjoy hearing how other poetry teachers teach poetry. 😊

  • @vaguevocalist17
    @vaguevocalist17 7 лет назад +6

    Art is never completed. It is only abandoned.
    I think this is an important thing to accept if any art is to be endeavored upon.
    I'm thoroughly enjoying your videos.
    I am struggling to find which voice of mine works best for readers. Would you be willing to read some of my work and tell me which style seems to land best?

  • @Sila_is_ice_queen
    @Sila_is_ice_queen Год назад

    thnk you so so much

  • @abstractbybrian
    @abstractbybrian 4 года назад +1

    Do you have the name of the wasp poem? I want to read that one, I love to study different styles and ways you can write a poem and you talk about this as a list poem. Thanks.

    • @Rachel-bn7hm
      @Rachel-bn7hm 4 года назад +1

      little armoured by Rebecca Perry

  • @KamraEkke
    @KamraEkke 7 месяцев назад

    Sir tell us best book on poetry means tips to write poems

  • @ankitachakrabortyart
    @ankitachakrabortyart 4 года назад

    ❤️❤️❤️

  • @geofftaylor7541
    @geofftaylor7541 Месяц назад

    Lizard standing still…..Awaits the taste of passing food…..Ever so quietly ……Geoff Taylor NZ

  • @ArizonaPoet
    @ArizonaPoet 8 лет назад +5

    Great site, but dude, to teach in rhyme and rhythm would honor poetry better, and stick more. To have a spiel in conversational language about poetry, without any poetry read, doesn't do the subject justice. Rewrite the script as a poem? Hindu textbooks are written in rhyme and rhythm, (with rhythm being the more important), why not ours? Perhaps poetry should be taught with poetic form? Emotional form? Structure? Balance? Symmetry. Keep up the good work. Regards, Bob Atkinson, Tucson, U.S.A.

    • @poesho
      @poesho  8 лет назад +2

      Thanks for the comment, Bob. There is definitely more coming about rhythm and rhyme, but there is a logic to the order of the series so far. Stay tuned and hopefully it will become apparent.
      I appreciate you taking the time to share your thoughts.

    • @poesho
      @poesho  8 лет назад

      +ArizonaPoet I've actually changed the order of the videos I record for the series as a result of this comment. Thanks again for sharing, Bob.

    • @ladybird491
      @ladybird491 4 года назад

      Not all poetry had to rhyme. I am having 5 poems publishing in a print magazine and not one rhyme.