I hope you guys didn't mind my mostly negative rant about the team wide gauge per turn being an NP level scaling effect. I usually prefer not to be pessimistic about things as much as I can. But I just have very mixed feelings about putting more incentive to whaling for NP levels. Maybe I'm exaggerating here if anything.
Considering there's a chance she can loop easily and stack the effects consistently, the NP levels aren't as taxing as you might think. Entirely depends on hwo often you can proc it imo.
appreciate it, kinda needs to be said the game's gotten scummier and scummier for a game that's already considered one of stingiest gachas. The append coins was already pretty obnoxious, now they're turning what would've been an sr into an ssr just to add on another banner.
I just listened to what you said and honestly, I completely agree. It's really infuriating, especially when compared to a lot of other supports where almost all of the non-whales can comfortably get by with only NP1 (Obviously, if you get NP2 or higher for someone like Castoria, it's definitely better but it's not essential) I also think the fact that it only lasts 3 turns as opposed to normal Merlin's 5 turns sort of additionally incentivizes people to roll more copies of her. In effect, while Merlin is always going to give the party 25% over the course of 5 turns, a lot of people might be tempted to roll at least NP2 of Proto Merlin so that way, they are getting more than just 15% charge over 3 turns.
I understand the initial reaction but don't think it's that big of a deal tbh. The additional NP per turn would be nice, but her NP buffs only lasting 3 turns means that it doesn't matter as much. Especially when her toolkit already enables so much np spam. Then you factor in all the other ways FGO can help enable NP spam and you realize that no matter what NP level, proto merlin's gonna be spamming hers easily while enabling the party to do the same. The NP per turn being on NP level is an incentive for sure and it is kinda scummy on lasagna to do. But I don't think it's a really huge one if you get what I mean. The whales and people that love merlin were gonna go for extra NP levels either way, but I don't think most other people will feel a need to NP2+ her. Now imagine if they tied Castoria's invul hit count to NP level lmao.
@@DustyBlind no, if it is 5 turns an np level difference would make bigger difference than 3 turns. Np1 PMerlin is equal to Merlin right at this moment, there's no need to whale over NP1 unless you really, really need it. Besides, people like to forget np charge goes in true numbers so for some turns that 7.5% will only register as 7% and your np is 98% 😛
Well for F2P, reading the NP level benefits is just like reading a myth. So, I might just ignore its existence as always LMAO. She is already good as it is after all
Honestly even with np lvls she’s literally just a slightly better Merlin. You’re essentially paying for the slightest upgrade possible when their so interchangeable that having one or the other is honestly irrelevant
Though I agree on the NP levels being beyond scummy, considering all that it garners, her mats and ascension is QUITE achievable just with the pure prisms you can get doing the plot, which is precisely what I'll be doing once I get apples to burn and beat down on the lostbelts with Arcueid.
Does the pure prism shop get reset? Cause if not, then that may not be achievable for newer players who may look to leveling other servants who would provide more variety and ease in gameplay. Especially to catch up storywise.
@@Kryptora As far as I have been aware? Not really. Its just 100 of each mat in the game. It gets updated, but thats about it. You gotta be smart about your resources, since you need to know how you're gonna pool it. Edit: Upon Further investigation, it does _not_ reset, so you have a finite number of Pure Prisms for trade in, which is a pain, since you'll only get so many prisms from the Main Quests, plus however much you can scrounge up from leveling your servants.
At np1 Proto Merlin provides the same charge per turn as regular Merlin. I don't see the problem lol. Besides both are limited and Merlin hadn't had a banner in a while. So can't she just be seen as an arts Merlin? Like all other servants if you want more, you need to higher their nps
@@arcticfox2490 which is why she is an easy skip for anyone with castoria. Supports should be 100% fine at Np1 but for Merlin here you gonna feel like yo missing out particularly if you don't have castoria and we're hoping to slot Merlin in as replacement. But eh, she is waifu Merlin so that's that
It really feels like genshin opened this up to be the community standard moving forward sadly. Like they literally lock QoL improvements (Hu tao c1) behind multiple copies in that game
@@RiotAugust one side effect that scales by % is nothing compared to Genshin's locked character functionality. IMO, we are already at this point ever since Skadi with Dantes demands an np3, I don't understand what's different now. People who paid for him back then have about the same incentives as getting that extra 2.5% for PMerlin.
@@RiotAugust it's 12% increase in dmg output, i wouldn't say it's "QoL" but her c1 is indeed make her stronger the same way NP level did. Moreover, GI did lock abilities mostly for 4* cons but you are guaranteed if you do 10 roll, whereas fgo can't even code for rotating single 4* banner without fucking up the pity's code
I'm just happy that mobile players have gotten, in this year alone, three of the servants that there has been a lot of push to be available, Charlegmagne, Archetype:Earth/Arcueid, and proto Merlin.
Well, Nobukatsu was meant to emulate the style of every Nobu. 1st was normal Nobu, 2nd was Summer Nobu, and 3rd was Avenger Nobu. It is similar in a way, though likely for different reasons imo.
Quick:one support is all they need......buff please Buster:our supports absolutely hate each other. Arts: we are friends and work together to save the world. Space Ishtar: all my supports.
Arts I'm not sure they like each other. U should hear castorias merlin quote in 3rd ascension...the one where she's invented a spell to permanent kill merlin.
If you compare her directly to OG Merlin (especially considering how her entire kit is derived from his), then the NP scaling is a nonissue in terms of gameplay. It is definitely a potential sign of them actually making NP levels matter, but OG Merlin has a flat NP regen of 5% without scaling. 5% is perfectly fine and there's no real reason anyone should feel like they need to go for NP2-5 on Lady Avalon when OG Merlin already makes 5% work. Still, just because this isn't that bad doesn't mean a future unit's effects aren't worse. Let's hope Skadi Summer is just busted for the sake of being busted
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The thing is OG Merlin 5% per turn last for 5 turns while Lady Avalon only last for 3 turns Still slart Merlin is basically another great support for art team so yeah art keep winning Quick is still dead and Buster got Oberon Konyan and Merlin to use
@@kun2588 this too. There’s no p2w element to her if the only thing is that her NP can overcharge. Most of the time if you’re running a Proto Merlin comp you’re probably gonna have a support Proto Merlin anyway, so there’s your 10% a turn
one thing you didnt seem to grasp about her kit, is that if there are 3 enemies, you can get 100% charge turn 1 --> immediate np from her on the first turn. With second append maxed, you can also do this with only 2 enemies. This is why i lean to say, that she is a much better merlin, since as we all know merlin needs a little bit of time till he gets going with his np spam, but she can do it immediately while still having free choice with ce's. And since you will pair her up with another arts support, lets say castoria or a second Proto merlin, you can get her np turn 1 through the charisma without wasting a buff for the dps.
I did actually grasp that, just didnt include me talking about it on this highlight. I spent like 10+ minutes in the 3rd skill alone and wanted the video to be more compact.
As an NA player i'm screaming in pain. We get Murumasa, Vitch, avenger Kama just to name a few next year. And now in 2 years we get Arcuid, Proto Merlin, and Summer Skadi. Time to decide to to save for and who to roll for.
I'd go with Koyanskaya and Muramasa/Arcueid, then get supports for the rest. This isn't even mentioning Himiko, Van Gogh, Douman, re-runs and other strong/fun servants on the way.
Proto Merlin could be a great combination with Servants like Dioscuri or Muramasa for Three Turns clear and you can also team them up with Castoria, Merlin or Skadi. And her NP is absolutely beautiful IMO!!!!
Do you have a fully lv10 Castoria, Arc, wavern and Pmerlin atm? I've been trying this so i could loop Arc's NP but my castoria skills are below 4. If you have all of them could you try looping with arc and tell me the details?
I have a feeling that a great new team comp will be her, castoria, and your arts DPS of choice. She provides a psuedo heal because of the max hp increase, and even more survivability with the team invul
@@shikiyama even then she’s not that much more consistent thanks regular Merlin especially if you’re running OG Avalon so you’d be better off staying with og Merlin
I really like the fact that at least one of her ascensions isn’t summer related. As much as I enjoy the summer servants, I feel a bit silly when I play through main story using swimsuit servants. Having a more traditional or “serious” looking ascension brings back the immersion for the story. Hope Summer Skadi gets the same treatment Edit: Also I like how they’re experimenting with passives a bit more, hope to see some creative passives in the future.
@@Riceisgood777 yes of course, and I think they should stay the way they are for the most part. I was just expressing my personal appreciation for this semi-summer servant
@@pingufan1239 Althou I preferred full summer ascensions, the other 2 ascensions also look pretty good still gonna main her 2nd one. Tbh It looks like they decided to give us both proto merlins in one as her debut release on mobile.
Merlin does have the longer effects on his NP, meaning he can stack those effects more, plus his shorter cooldowns. But Avalon can charge faster with higher np levels, has her overcharge buff, and can seff charge her np and drain enemies with her 3rd skill. They do have their own benefits imo.
Main difference I see for stalling is that proto Merlin lacks a heal, one of the main reasons for bringing Merlin to a long stall is that he keeps the party topped off so that you can keep going indefinitely. If you ran a similar stall team with say castoria and proto Merlin you would now need the third servant to bring some party-wide heals or you will eventually die to chip damage.
She seems pretty cool, didn't expect her to be arts version of the regular Merlin. New Skadi will be interesting too, lots of potential in a Ruler support if she turns out to be that.
Buster: Has merlin,Koya L, Oberon Arts: Has Proto merlin, Castoria, Tamamo caster Quick: Has Skadi Also Waver is Mr. Worldwide I think quick sooner or later will get a merlin like Servant
I feel like rolling for her encourages questionable servant design like the np charge per turn should of just been the over charge, especially when the other summer servants from what I've seen don't need np5 for the full experience, like Castoria waver and both versions of Skadi don't need more than np1 and at np5 proto Merlin isn't even better than Castoria it feels like this was done to either keep the Arcade crowd happy or to simply cash in on FOMO
On the whole thing about the NP scaling, I kinda think it is nice to have an NP where the NP levels actually scale in a nice way. I was personally intending to NP5 her either way, so to me it is nice that I actually would get something out of it that makes it feel more worth it. It is kind of a hard balance to strike though, because if you make the scaling too good then you are incentivizing whaling, but if the scaling is too bad then getting NP levels just kinda sucks and punish those who either gets spooks from servants (she is limited now but I am thinking in general with servants you might get spooked), or just people who want NP levels because they really like the character.
@@A2ZOMG I hate power creep though. Of course I will keep using my favorite character Tamamo, but the fact remains the same, they are just making her be less and less relevant as the years go by. It's still a single player game so it isn't that bad, I just feel bad for my waifu.
@@ernestogonzalez2841 except that's literally not true at all. Every time another broken Arts support gets released that's literally a buff to Tamamo since she still snowballs survivability and sustained damage simultaneously like nobody else. That's literally always how it has been ever since she was released, just her partners merely have changed over time depending on quest. Also still has effectively a monopoly on NP damage up (at 30% no less) so the optimal nuke damage setups still absolutely want her. Less relevant my ass, TamAvalon is just going to make ST damage quests a joke lol. Also for many players the fact Tamamo is non-limited is literally one of the most relevant things for this game in general.
I was in a bad mood the other day and ended up yeeting 300 sq onto the Abigail Williams banner in the name of stress relief, and although i did get her (a servant i really like), im sure dealing with the aftermath of not having any sq for this event 😭
Gameplay wise, I don't see any reason to roll her since I have Castoria, Tamamo, and even og merlin. We can just borrow one from friend, and use our own Castoria/Tamamo. I don't see double Merlin even still a thing since I still prefer def buff in Merlin stalling. Even with Casgil on paper works great with double s. Merlin, I still prefer Tamamo between them to cut downtime cycle.
i dont necessarily agree with the np per turn being np level scaling is scummy, i think its kinda balanced out by lady avalons good skillset plus an arts team doesnt need passive np gain as much as a buster team on the account youll get arts chains out the ass which on average does make up for it sure, the np level doubling the np regen will speed up clears by a couple turns but youre not exactly short on np in an arts team
Myst: *mentions the cooldown on the third skill* Me: Yea, that’s kinda high. Although if you had Tamamo then maybe that could work for- Myst: Is anyone else thinking of Tamamo synergy here? Me: *shocked Pikachu*
I find it humorous that even though there's been an obvious gender change between Vanilla and Proto, and a shift from Buster focus to Arts, they're otherwise more identical than most alternate versions in the game. I guess Merlin is Merlin no matter the AU...
Im surprised we don’t get more summer servants with normal outfits. Matching ascetics with the field is a big thing for me. It’s why i change off of memories of trefas
Lasengle has been pushing incentives for whales for a while, Coin system is the biggest bait, idk maybe because they added pity(a horrible one tho) makes them think they need to milk some money from other sources now? Also I've seen people say she's bad or smth because "worse than castori" but cmon, every servant is worse than castoria
Bruh even for this year's anniv, everyone got sq according to the amount of servants they final ascensioned, essentially rewarding even more to whales, smh
Bruh even for this year's anniv, everyone got sq according to the amount of servants they final ascensioned, essentially rewarding even more to whales, smh
@@alectos Except it hardly rewards whales at all. Just think. If you got all 900+ SQ from final ascensions as a whale, how much quartz did you spend to get all those servants. No one is rolling for limited/gacha servants to get their 3 SQ 'bonus' for getting them to final ascension because basically every servant is going to cost you more than 3 quartz to roll.
Love her, but she's really sus: why would she be an arts support, when Proto Arthur is buster? Not complaining, arts is my favourite, but it feels like she didn't plan on supporting him from the beginning, lol.
She's pretty much ambivalent to Arthur as much as Merlin was to Artoria in lore lol. In proto's case she left out information there were 4 Beast 6s, not 2 and even sent him to find the wrong ones. All for the sake that a "real hero's journey" requires a roundabout path in order to be entertaining. I think personality wise she's more dangerous than male merlin too.
Personal Experience: a lot of hours and 1200 dollars later and I realized how much this game is made for pay to play comparatively. After playing princess connect for a year and a half now I've spent only $100 and I'm now on the top tier of players. Fgo has made it clear that tight moon is very strongly supported by its community however the is been clear with games like Arcade that content is really made for people to spend on microtransactions and gambling which I had a clear problem with it. Japan's culture is very different and arcade gaming is very popular so I understand the demand and supply for it however it is clear that it is far more leaned towards money spenders then people just enjoying the game. I personally can't even keep up with the game because XP for characters is the hardest thing they get even after this update and the time that I have to spend the grind is a third on my other games which for someone with a full-time job makes it difficult to actually complete full event and sometimes even reached to The limited Time characters and even with the new updates the lack of saints quartz that I have had since I started playing comparatively to other games premium currency the aforementioned princess connect it is very hard for me to want to keep playing. TL;DR FGO is bad for your heart and your wallet. But Raikou is mommy.
we just basically got arts merlin, and Arcuied is a great universal buster farmer. dam quick is down BAD even after the buffs hate to see it. there really is no reason to use quick over buster and arts most the time.
proto merlin may be the first 5 star ill np5 depending on what summer skadi does, got plenty of time to save since theres not really much im rolling for after na gets koyanskaya.
I'm honestly quiet happy with Merlin! She doesn't seem to be game breaking but she's still pretty good. Also she's working quiet well with my Summer Kama so atleast in this team I can happily replace my Castoria with her.
Except she’s not really replacing castoria in anything tho. You’d be be better off still using castoria and only really using Merlin for the same teams as oh merlin
I don't understand what's so bad, np5 definitely isn't needed for her to be a good unit and if someone's willing to np5 a unit they deserve to get something better than an overcharge they never end up using anyway
At this point the state of each Cards can be simple down to Buster being unable to get along at all, Arts being the best with each other and Quick is like a the only Child that didn't make that good enough of impression
For the NP, the 2,000 max hp difference and 15% np gauge difference really doesn't seem like a big deal to me. Considering that she's an Arts support and will already be paired with servants like Paracelsus, Xu Fu, and/or Castoria, the Arts dps in question should be able to get enough refund to make the NP level difference unimportant. That, and she will be using her NP frequently due to her passives and her third skills self battery.
in all honesty Proto Merlin is not really meant for F2P stuff where she buffs Arts + Crit servants instead of being Castoria 2.0. ST and CQs will be her forte.
Her gauge scaling up with levels is scummy, but at least she can use overcharge in her skill and CEs to alleviate it somewhat. They did the same with Arucreid by making her damage mod scale with level too, so this may be an unfortunate new practice.
With her third skill, if there are 3 enemies, does she gain 60% np gauge? Cause I read she gains np per enemy So maxing her append basically means a free np at turn 1 if there are 3 enemies? Correct me if Im wrong
What are the odds of them backpaddeling? I would be fine if it was either max hp or even np gain that would scale with NP level. Just not both. A tad bit too much lasagne.
I don't think her having an actual use for extra NP copies makes her f2p unfriendly. She has an extremely good NP at NP1 and there are some benefits to having her at higher NP levels like for most other servants. You're still probably better off investing in your favorite looper imo.
But you see, the thing is Merlin's NP/turn always lasts 5 turns and its unaffected by np level. With Proto-Merlin, her NP/turn is 5% but it can go up to 10% depending on her np level. Her NP/turn is also only 3 turns, so most of the time you will only get up to 15% with her at np1 compared to always getting up to 25% with regular np1 Merlin
I don’t think I’ll go for her even tho I’m very glad she’s in the game because Ibuki and Skadi are right around the corner and I’ll prolly be drained from Arc
IMO Proto Merlin is not an Arts Support, but an all rounder support, pretty much like Merlin. Sure, Merlin can make buster servants do a lot of damage, but he can be used as a Quick, Arts or Buster support effortlessly. Proto Merlin does something like that, but enabling a 500% OC NP for the last servant on a 3 NP chain. If you needed Himiko to fire her NP and do that for you, now you have a servant that will do with her second skill. Just imagine a servant that buffs himself or herself with a +quick/buster/arts/NP damage/attack hitting those NP 500% OC. They will hit even harder.
I'm not that upset about the np charge per turn being tied to NP levels. Since offensive servants also sometimes need higher NP levels to just hit hard enough. And it isn't even that new a move for supports. Originally you basically needed to NP5 Miyu to try and limit how horrible that demerit she had was. It didn't really work, but it was still pretty necessary. Still don't really love it though. Honestly not that hyped about this summer event. Even with (not really a summer servant) Proto Merlin added to the mix. She is fine. Just not interested in whaling for her. Honestly I'm not that hyped about many of the JP servants that have come out this year. It's been pretty bleak for me.
i mean, buster has himiko, merlin, koyanskaya, oberon, nightingale, chen gong and shakespeare buster doesnt really need supports, they have plenty of strong options
Good to know what I need to know about Proto Merlin. Honestly after Arc I'm glad this summer's mid to me except for merlin. All the year has been like that I think so I got SQ saved for this in a few years. Skadi has no choice but to somehow help NP gain unlike what her OG did with only her NP battery being the most relevant otherwise Quick loses again.
Lady Avalon feels lazy. As someone as hyped up and anticipated as Proto Merlin, her kit, design, ascension, introduction to the game, feel VERY underwhelming. THE ONLY NEW SPRITE SHE GOT IS A MEDIOCRE SWIMSUIT THAT ISN'T USED IN THE FA? HELLO? Straight up ripped from Arcade, pasted a swimsuit and called it a day. This is not to say she's bad, I think she's great! But I wish they put a LITTLE more effort into her. I'll join the believer gang for Skadi though. (As someone who also spends an adhorrant amount of money on the game, I feel like having standards is acceptable.)
The thing with her is she’s a proto servant so she has to be similar to her default form (merlin). Look at Arthur and proto cu before they gave them buffs to differentiate themselves. Arthur was a copy paste of altria just with an anti giant skill rather than a charisma. Proto merlin is the same but at least they changed her NP and skill effects though they are similar they’re not a copy paste.
Bruh, her artist usually draw 3 same(almost) designs - just look at the Dioscuri or normal Merlin - I don't know what you have been expecting, but they did tried their best, and especially in terms of visual contents. And her third outfit doesn't look very similar to the first one too, since it looks a lot like a dress, not like a lewder version of original Merlin's outfit. The only problem with her is that she is arts buffer by no reason(and maybe lack of team battery too).
I don't see the issue at all with the NP...? You're mad that the np gain is scaling when its literally the same number as Merlin's NP. Only Lady Avalon's can be higher? Shes fine as she is as NP1. No incentive especially if you have other supports like castoria as well. Not to mention, Lady Avalon can get her NP up faster due to her skills and passive, so you can stack the effect.
@@hassansabbah6593 even then there’s literally no need to roll for her when you can just get one off your friends list or use any other support. CQs make a small margin of the game and the only time castoria loses in CQs is unless you’re just bringing a double castoria set up but even then you still have better replacements for that second slot
Guess it took 7 years for FGO players to understand that higher NP levels give benefits and it's ALWAYS been an icentive to whaling for NP levels? Guess its true that gacha players can't read Plus, who are you competing agaisnt anyways? against some NPC enemy that always behaves the same on a turn-based game? rofl
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I hope you guys didn't mind my mostly negative rant about the team wide gauge per turn being an NP level scaling effect. I usually prefer not to be pessimistic about things as much as I can.
But I just have very mixed feelings about putting more incentive to whaling for NP levels. Maybe I'm exaggerating here if anything.
Considering there's a chance she can loop easily and stack the effects consistently, the NP levels aren't as taxing as you might think. Entirely depends on hwo often you can proc it imo.
appreciate it, kinda needs to be said the game's gotten scummier and scummier for a game that's already considered one of stingiest gachas. The append coins was already pretty obnoxious, now they're turning what would've been an sr into an ssr just to add on another banner.
I just listened to what you said and honestly, I completely agree. It's really infuriating, especially when compared to a lot of other supports where almost all of the non-whales can comfortably get by with only NP1 (Obviously, if you get NP2 or higher for someone like Castoria, it's definitely better but it's not essential)
I also think the fact that it only lasts 3 turns as opposed to normal Merlin's 5 turns sort of additionally incentivizes people to roll more copies of her. In effect, while Merlin is always going to give the party 25% over the course of 5 turns, a lot of people might be tempted to roll at least NP2 of Proto Merlin so that way, they are getting more than just 15% charge over 3 turns.
I understand the initial reaction but don't think it's that big of a deal tbh. The additional NP per turn would be nice, but her NP buffs only lasting 3 turns means that it doesn't matter as much. Especially when her toolkit already enables so much np spam.
Then you factor in all the other ways FGO can help enable NP spam and you realize that no matter what NP level, proto merlin's gonna be spamming hers easily while enabling the party to do the same.
The NP per turn being on NP level is an incentive for sure and it is kinda scummy on lasagna to do. But I don't think it's a really huge one if you get what I mean. The whales and people that love merlin were gonna go for extra NP levels either way, but I don't think most other people will feel a need to NP2+ her. Now imagine if they tied Castoria's invul hit count to NP level lmao.
@@DustyBlind no, if it is 5 turns an np level difference would make bigger difference than 3 turns.
Np1 PMerlin is equal to Merlin right at this moment, there's no need to whale over NP1 unless you really, really need it.
Besides, people like to forget np charge goes in true numbers so for some turns that 7.5% will only register as 7% and your np is 98% 😛
Myst you're looking better and better by each video post; love watching your progress and the videos are quality as ever
Well for F2P, reading the NP level benefits is just like reading a myth. So, I might just ignore its existence as always LMAO. She is already good as it is after all
When 7th Anni gets to NA, I might just skip Arcuieid and put all those hundreds of final ascension SQ towards Femerlin.
Honestly even with np lvls she’s literally just a slightly better Merlin. You’re essentially paying for the slightest upgrade possible when their so interchangeable that having one or the other is honestly irrelevant
True. With her np I feel like it's between np1 or np5, there's no in between. So if you're f2p that's your 5% per turn and don't even think about it
@@amari7782 Arts vs Buster is hardly interchangeable.
@@thewhyzer in this context it is because the og merlin can keep his shit active much more consistently than pre merlin
Though I agree on the NP levels being beyond scummy, considering all that it garners, her mats and ascension is QUITE achievable just with the pure prisms you can get doing the plot, which is precisely what I'll be doing once I get apples to burn and beat down on the lostbelts with Arcueid.
Does the pure prism shop get reset? Cause if not, then that may not be achievable for newer players who may look to leveling other servants who would provide more variety and ease in gameplay. Especially to catch up storywise.
@@Kryptora As far as I have been aware? Not really. Its just 100 of each mat in the game. It gets updated, but thats about it. You gotta be smart about your resources, since you need to know how you're gonna pool it.
Edit: Upon Further investigation, it does _not_ reset, so you have a finite number of Pure Prisms for trade in, which is a pain, since you'll only get so many prisms from the Main Quests, plus however much you can scrounge up from leveling your servants.
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At np1 Proto Merlin provides the same charge per turn as regular Merlin. I don't see the problem lol. Besides both are limited and Merlin hadn't had a banner in a while. So can't she just be seen as an arts Merlin?
Like all other servants if you want more, you need to higher their nps
@@arcticfox2490 which is why she is an easy skip for anyone with castoria.
Supports should be 100% fine at Np1 but for Merlin here you gonna feel like yo missing out particularly if you don't have castoria and we're hoping to slot Merlin in as replacement.
But eh, she is waifu Merlin so that's that
I'm honestly slightly worried about fgo leaning into making servants like this that are designed to whale for, I hope this doesn't happen often/again
It really feels like genshin opened this up to be the community standard moving forward sadly. Like they literally lock QoL improvements (Hu tao c1) behind multiple copies in that game
It’s becoming like Starira oh no.
@@RiotAugust one side effect that scales by % is nothing compared to Genshin's locked character functionality.
IMO, we are already at this point ever since Skadi with Dantes demands an np3, I don't understand what's different now. People who paid for him back then have about the same incentives as getting that extra 2.5% for PMerlin.
@@RiotAugust it's 12% increase in dmg output, i wouldn't say it's "QoL" but her c1 is indeed make her stronger the same way NP level did.
Moreover, GI did lock abilities mostly for 4* cons but you are guaranteed if you do 10 roll, whereas fgo can't even code for rotating single 4* banner without fucking up the pity's code
@@RiotAugust I don't play Genshin but I need to understand, what do you mean by quality of life? Isn't it's just her gimmick? I don't get it
I'm just happy that mobile players have gotten, in this year alone, three of the servants that there has been a lot of push to be available, Charlegmagne, Archetype:Earth/Arcueid, and proto Merlin.
as an NA player, I'm so excited especially I have Tamamo and Castoria.
Reminds me of Nobokatsu where he had his first and third ascension be normal, and his 2nd was a summer one.
Well, Nobukatsu was meant to emulate the style of every Nobu. 1st was normal Nobu, 2nd was Summer Nobu, and 3rd was Avenger Nobu.
It is similar in a way, though likely for different reasons imo.
Here’s a video idea. Passive tier list. With so many busted passive lately, it would be interesting to see how they all stack up.
Quick:one support is all they need......buff please
Buster:our supports absolutely hate each other.
Arts: we are friends and work together to save the world.
Space Ishtar: all my supports.
Arts I'm not sure they like each other. U should hear castorias merlin quote in 3rd ascension...the one where she's invented a spell to permanent kill merlin.
Chen gong: all are my arrows
If you compare her directly to OG Merlin (especially considering how her entire kit is derived from his), then the NP scaling is a nonissue in terms of gameplay. It is definitely a potential sign of them actually making NP levels matter, but OG Merlin has a flat NP regen of 5% without scaling. 5% is perfectly fine and there's no real reason anyone should feel like they need to go for NP2-5 on Lady Avalon when OG Merlin already makes 5% work. Still, just because this isn't that bad doesn't mean a future unit's effects aren't worse. Let's hope Skadi Summer is just busted for the sake of being busted
The thing is OG Merlin 5% per turn last for 5 turns while Lady Avalon only last for 3 turns
Still slart Merlin is basically another great support for art team so yeah art keep winning Quick is still dead and Buster got Oberon Konyan and Merlin to use
No, P.Merlin has ass gains on her cards (compared to the OG) to make up for it. And also more NP in arts teams is redundant.
@@kun2588 this too. There’s no p2w element to her if the only thing is that her NP can overcharge. Most of the time if you’re running a Proto Merlin comp you’re probably gonna have a support Proto Merlin anyway, so there’s your 10% a turn
one thing you didnt seem to grasp about her kit, is that if there are 3 enemies, you can get 100% charge turn 1 --> immediate np from her on the first turn. With second append maxed, you can also do this with only 2 enemies. This is why i lean to say, that she is a much better merlin, since as we all know merlin needs a little bit of time till he gets going with his np spam, but she can do it immediately while still having free choice with ce's. And since you will pair her up with another arts support, lets say castoria or a second Proto merlin, you can get her np turn 1 through the charisma without wasting a buff for the dps.
meh
Even then once they both get going merlin is usually fine so the difference in power goes away
I did actually grasp that, just didnt include me talking about it on this highlight. I spent like 10+ minutes in the 3rd skill alone and wanted the video to be more compact.
As an NA player i'm screaming in pain. We get Murumasa, Vitch, avenger Kama just to name a few next year. And now in 2 years we get Arcuid, Proto Merlin, and Summer Skadi. Time to decide to to save for and who to roll for.
You have already decided haha
Just pick all the 6 servants in your list then.
Morgan
@@indoraptor3248 ya I forgot about her, my bad
@@ValkyrieSkyfall like I can afford that, lol
I'd go with Koyanskaya and Muramasa/Arcueid, then get supports for the rest. This isn't even mentioning Himiko, Van Gogh, Douman, re-runs and other strong/fun servants on the way.
Proto Merlin could be a great combination with Servants like Dioscuri or Muramasa for Three Turns clear and you can also team them up with Castoria, Merlin or Skadi.
And her NP is absolutely beautiful IMO!!!!
Do you have a fully lv10 Castoria, Arc, wavern and Pmerlin atm? I've been trying this so i could loop Arc's NP but my castoria skills are below 4. If you have all of them could you try looping with arc and tell me the details?
meh
@@Evangylo use a koyanskaya
@@amari7782 Unfortunately i don't have her nor waver, so i use support waver
@@Evangylo we literally got a chance to get him for free last year
Thanks for the breakdown and impressions.
Miyu was also one of those "get to NP5 or you lose out" servants
we're seeing myst looking more like a gigachad with every video and I'm here for it
I have a feeling that a great new team comp will be her, castoria, and your arts DPS of choice. She provides a psuedo heal because of the max hp increase, and even more survivability with the team invul
she can replace regular merlin in a morgan/merlin/castoria setup but it will really lower your damage output in exchange for consistency
@@shikiyama even then she’s not that much more consistent thanks regular Merlin especially if you’re running OG Avalon so you’d be better off staying with og Merlin
@@amari7782 welp some people don't have merlin sadly so we gotta make do but luckily i did get the lady
@@Diremagic except you can get one off your friends list 95% of the time
@@amari7782 well yeah but i usually like using my own servants
I really like the fact that at least one of her ascensions isn’t summer related. As much as I enjoy the summer servants, I feel a bit silly when I play through main story using swimsuit servants. Having a more traditional or “serious” looking ascension brings back the immersion for the story. Hope Summer Skadi gets the same treatment
Edit: Also I like how they’re experimenting with passives a bit more, hope to see some creative passives in the future.
That's the whole point of "summer servants"
@@Riceisgood777 yes of course, and I think they should stay the way they are for the most part. I was just expressing my personal appreciation for this semi-summer servant
@@pingufan1239 Althou I preferred full summer ascensions, the other 2 ascensions also look pretty good still gonna main her 2nd one.
Tbh It looks like they decided to give us both proto merlins in one as her debut release on mobile.
looking at the CDs, at least OG Merlin have some advantages over her still. Although this clearly shows the need for some kind of buff to him.
What are you talking about? Oh overall Their honestly interchangeable especially in the comps you usually run Merlin
Merlin does have the longer effects on his NP, meaning he can stack those effects more, plus his shorter cooldowns. But Avalon can charge faster with higher np levels, has her overcharge buff, and can seff charge her np and drain enemies with her 3rd skill.
They do have their own benefits imo.
Main difference I see for stalling is that proto Merlin lacks a heal, one of the main reasons for bringing Merlin to a long stall is that he keeps the party topped off so that you can keep going indefinitely. If you ran a similar stall team with say castoria and proto Merlin you would now need the third servant to bring some party-wide heals or you will eventually die to chip damage.
@@jeksewnoleeray1020 technically her max hp is basically a heal but yea you right
@@amari7782 in stall comps max hp is useless compared to heal, they're completely different buffs. Max HP is essentially a damage cut, not a heal.
Besides the reviews i have to say your effort on losing weight is showing very well good job ny guy
She seems pretty cool, didn't expect her to be arts version of the regular Merlin. New Skadi will be interesting too, lots of potential in a Ruler support if she turns out to be that.
Buster: Has merlin,Koya L, Oberon
Arts: Has Proto merlin, Castoria, Tamamo caster
Quick: Has Skadi
Also Waver is Mr. Worldwide
I think quick sooner or later will get a merlin like Servant
Considering OG Merlins np per turn is also 5%, I'm not worried about the np levels.
Finally my healthy kidney is ready
Love her, but did we truly need another arts support
We need a new quick support its dying in the middle of the ocean
you know if she was quick this would mean quick would be so much better in challenge quest but maybe lasagna really like arts
I feel like rolling for her encourages questionable servant design like the np charge per turn should of just been the over charge, especially when the other summer servants from what I've seen don't need np5 for the full experience, like Castoria waver and both versions of Skadi don't need more than np1 and at np5 proto Merlin isn't even better than Castoria it feels like this was done to either keep the Arcade crowd happy or to simply cash in on FOMO
On the whole thing about the NP scaling, I kinda think it is nice to have an NP where the NP levels actually scale in a nice way. I was personally intending to NP5 her either way, so to me it is nice that I actually would get something out of it that makes it feel more worth it.
It is kind of a hard balance to strike though, because if you make the scaling too good then you are incentivizing whaling, but if the scaling is too bad then getting NP levels just kinda sucks and punish those who either gets spooks from servants (she is limited now but I am thinking in general with servants you might get spooked), or just people who want NP levels because they really like the character.
We Tamamo fans are crying in a corner. Why they keep power creeping her so much. This is insane
Bro I'm a longtime Tamamo user and I LOVE seeing another busted Arts support to send into full degen mode with skill CD resets.
@@A2ZOMG I hate power creep though. Of course I will keep using my favorite character Tamamo, but the fact remains the same, they are just making her be less and less relevant as the years go by. It's still a single player game so it isn't that bad, I just feel bad for my waifu.
@@ernestogonzalez2841 except that's literally not true at all.
Every time another broken Arts support gets released that's literally a buff to Tamamo since she still snowballs survivability and sustained damage simultaneously like nobody else. That's literally always how it has been ever since she was released, just her partners merely have changed over time depending on quest. Also still has effectively a monopoly on NP damage up (at 30% no less) so the optimal nuke damage setups still absolutely want her.
Less relevant my ass, TamAvalon is just going to make ST damage quests a joke lol. Also for many players the fact Tamamo is non-limited is literally one of the most relevant things for this game in general.
As much as I hate it as a tamamo simp, Tamamo has been going strong for years now, it’s a miracle that she hasn’t been powercrept into oblivion yet
@@thefreaks8926 cooldown reduction and op healing does help
I was in a bad mood the other day and ended up yeeting 300 sq onto the Abigail Williams banner in the name of stress relief, and although i did get her (a servant i really like), im sure dealing with the aftermath of not having any sq for this event 😭
Aren't you guys like super late to the "not F2P friendly" train like 5 years ago? I was even still playing then.
Gameplay wise, I don't see any reason to roll her since I have Castoria, Tamamo, and even og merlin. We can just borrow one from friend, and use our own Castoria/Tamamo. I don't see double Merlin even still a thing since I still prefer def buff in Merlin stalling. Even with Casgil on paper works great with double s. Merlin, I still prefer Tamamo between them to cut downtime cycle.
If you want arts crits then merlin proto is good for it
Imaginary Element is her K-scope
i dont necessarily agree with the np per turn being np level scaling is scummy, i think its kinda balanced out by lady avalons good skillset plus an arts team doesnt need passive np gain as much as a buster team on the account youll get arts chains out the ass which on average does make up for it
sure, the np level doubling the np regen will speed up clears by a couple turns but youre not exactly short on np in an arts team
She is like Okki except if her kit ever made actual sense.
See you in 2 years Lady Avalon. Np1 is enough for me. There is always a solution for the Np1 problem.
Myst: *mentions the cooldown on the third skill*
Me: Yea, that’s kinda high. Although if you had Tamamo then maybe that could work for-
Myst: Is anyone else thinking of Tamamo synergy here?
Me: *shocked Pikachu*
I find it humorous that even though there's been an obvious gender change between Vanilla and Proto, and a shift from Buster focus to Arts, they're otherwise more identical than most alternate versions in the game. I guess Merlin is Merlin no matter the AU...
I didnt get her
Poor Tamamo's gonna have to wait until EXTRA Record's release (and the buff and/or costume that comes with it?) to have a chance to shine again.
Im surprised we don’t get more summer servants with normal outfits. Matching ascetics with the field is a big thing for me. It’s why i change off of memories of trefas
Lasengle has been pushing incentives for whales for a while, Coin system is the biggest bait, idk maybe because they added pity(a horrible one tho) makes them think they need to milk some money from other sources now?
Also I've seen people say she's bad or smth because "worse than castori" but cmon, every servant is worse than castoria
Bruh even for this year's anniv, everyone got sq according to the amount of servants they final ascensioned, essentially rewarding even more to whales, smh
Bruh even for this year's anniv, everyone got sq according to the amount of servants they final ascensioned, essentially rewarding even more to whales, smh
@@alectos Except it hardly rewards whales at all. Just think. If you got all 900+ SQ from final ascensions as a whale, how much quartz did you spend to get all those servants. No one is rolling for limited/gacha servants to get their 3 SQ 'bonus' for getting them to final ascension because basically every servant is going to cost you more than 3 quartz to roll.
Love her, but she's really sus: why would she be an arts support, when Proto Arthur is buster?
Not complaining, arts is my favourite, but it feels like she didn't plan on supporting him from the beginning, lol.
She's pretty much ambivalent to Arthur as much as Merlin was to Artoria in lore lol. In proto's case she left out information there were 4 Beast 6s, not 2 and even sent him to find the wrong ones. All for the sake that a "real hero's journey" requires a roundabout path in order to be entertaining. I think personality wise she's more dangerous than male merlin too.
@@icefiredragon94 I see, thanks.
I guess I was on to something then.
double np5 proto merlin gives 16k max hp up so I think she might work well with Angra Mainyu's np
She comes to NA, she sticks with the Moth Man
Watch Summer Skadi be able to literally double the Quick Buffs (value, duration, or both) on target Servant.
Personal Experience: a lot of hours and 1200 dollars later and I realized how much this game is made for pay to play comparatively. After playing princess connect for a year and a half now I've spent only $100 and I'm now on the top tier of players. Fgo has made it clear that tight moon is very strongly supported by its community however the is been clear with games like Arcade that content is really made for people to spend on microtransactions and gambling which I had a clear problem with it. Japan's culture is very different and arcade gaming is very popular so I understand the demand and supply for it however it is clear that it is far more leaned towards money spenders then people just enjoying the game. I personally can't even keep up with the game because XP for characters is the hardest thing they get even after this update and the time that I have to spend the grind is a third on my other games which for someone with a full-time job makes it difficult to actually complete full event and sometimes even reached to The limited Time characters and even with the new updates the lack of saints quartz that I have had since I started playing comparatively to other games premium currency the aforementioned princess connect it is very hard for me to want to keep playing. TL;DR FGO is bad for your heart and your wallet. But Raikou is mommy.
we just basically got arts merlin, and Arcuied is a great universal buster farmer. dam quick is down BAD even after the buffs hate to see it. there really is no reason to use quick over buster and arts most the time.
Miyus laughing look what they need to come close fo my power (at least mp per turn)
proto merlin may be the first 5 star ill np5 depending on what summer skadi does, got plenty of time to save since theres not really much im rolling for after na gets koyanskaya.
I'm so Happy that in one multisummon i got 2 copy of proto Merlin
I'm more inclined to roll for her on NA where I have way more arts servants.
I'm leaning more towards quick and buster on JP
Proto Merlin can MLB Kscope without a Kscope
I don't have castoria sadly but i hope she works fine looping with a friend one
I'm honestly quiet happy with Merlin!
She doesn't seem to be game breaking but she's still pretty good.
Also she's working quiet well with my Summer Kama so atleast in this team I can happily replace my Castoria with her.
Except she’s not really replacing castoria in anything tho. You’d be be better off still using castoria and only really using Merlin for the same teams as oh merlin
I don't understand what's so bad, np5 definitely isn't needed for her to be a good unit and if someone's willing to np5 a unit they deserve to get something better than an overcharge they never end up using anyway
At this point the state of each Cards can be simple down to Buster being unable to get along at all, Arts being the best with each other and Quick is like a the only Child that didn't make that good enough of impression
Buster does fine in getting along, arts is just way too overpowered.
@@SoccYT he's talking about merlin and oberon
For the NP, the 2,000 max hp difference and 15% np gauge difference really doesn't seem like a big deal to me. Considering that she's an Arts support and will already be paired with servants like Paracelsus, Xu Fu, and/or Castoria, the Arts dps in question should be able to get enough refund to make the NP level difference unimportant. That, and she will be using her NP frequently due to her passives and her third skills self battery.
I mean, most Limited 5 Stars are not F2P friendly
Technically, she's not the first servant to pretend to be a Summer Servant. That honor goes to Oda Nobukatsu and his 2nd Ascension.
Going to be an ez skip for me. No point on getting her when her buffs scale on np lvls.
in all honesty Proto Merlin is not really meant for F2P stuff where she buffs Arts + Crit servants instead of being Castoria 2.0. ST and CQs will be her forte.
Her gauge scaling up with levels is scummy, but at least she can use overcharge in her skill and CEs to alleviate it somewhat. They did the same with Arucreid by making her damage mod scale with level too, so this may be an unfortunate new practice.
Wait, but does Overcharge affects the effects based on NP level? Pretty sure it would only increase the stars per turn, like with OG Merlin.
@@Neznaiu98 Maybe? Idk
First Emperor Buff is Proto Merlin
I’m gonna pretend that she isn’t competing for my attention with a ruler.
does anyone else feel like this was supposed to be the new years servent, but instead they decided to push her out early?
5:23
Sigh...I better start working the corners for the extra cash so I can NP5 her on NA release >_>
Ignore her np because getting np lvls means nothing if I’m being honest
NP1 works just fine, tbh. NP2 or higher would be nice to counter drains, but it's not a must. The difference is a bit too small to make a huge impact.
With her third skill, if there are 3 enemies, does she gain 60% np gauge? Cause I read she gains np per enemy
So maxing her append basically means a free np at turn 1 if there are 3 enemies?
Correct me if Im wrong
Ye think so since she has a passive aswell that gives her 20 np charge
Arts looking better, and more arrows acceptable
I'm looking forward to Summer Skadi
...Yeah, appearance-wise, she looks amazing
I thought her third skill charge is party wide
Imagine a party wide 60% battery
What are the odds of them backpaddeling? I would be fine if it was either max hp or even np gain that would scale with NP level. Just not both. A tad bit too much lasagne.
Idc what her performance gon be. I am a f2p NA player and im gonna save for Lady Merlin for 2 years. I love her
I don't think her having an actual use for extra NP copies makes her f2p unfriendly.
She has an extremely good NP at NP1 and there are some benefits to having her at higher NP levels like for most other servants.
You're still probably better off investing in your favorite looper imo.
I am pretty sure most ppl are gonna NP5 her anyways, so I think they made it scaled like that just to make them happier when they NP5 her lmao.
Even Merlin NP/Turn is 5%, wdym with not F2P Friendly?
But you see, the thing is Merlin's NP/turn always lasts 5 turns and its unaffected by np level. With Proto-Merlin, her NP/turn is 5% but it can go up to 10% depending on her np level. Her NP/turn is also only 3 turns, so most of the time you will only get up to 15% with her at np1 compared to always getting up to 25% with regular np1 Merlin
Got np 3 going for summer Gareth, got my Gareth tho lmao
I love them trying to create new things but i just hope that they don’t go too far and make FGO become P2W
It's not even competitive. You cant call a non competitive game as p2w.
bro you look fucking great
I guess na players have time to save for np5 at least. Still kinda dirty
Lmfao I just pulled og Merlin from gssr and then the arts replica of him came out. Idk what to make of it
The sad part is that, I think Skadi will be an attacker and not a support
i'm f2p and only got her on guaranteed
I don’t think I’ll go for her even tho I’m very glad she’s in the game because Ibuki and Skadi are right around the corner and I’ll prolly be drained from Arc
IMO Proto Merlin is not an Arts Support, but an all rounder support, pretty much like Merlin. Sure, Merlin can make buster servants do a lot of damage, but he can be used as a Quick, Arts or Buster support effortlessly. Proto Merlin does something like that, but enabling a 500% OC NP for the last servant on a 3 NP chain.
If you needed Himiko to fire her NP and do that for you, now you have a servant that will do with her second skill. Just imagine a servant that buffs himself or herself with a +quick/buster/arts/NP damage/attack hitting those NP 500% OC. They will hit even harder.
rip my 500 quazt
I'm not that upset about the np charge per turn being tied to NP levels. Since offensive servants also sometimes need higher NP levels to just hit hard enough. And it isn't even that new a move for supports. Originally you basically needed to NP5 Miyu to try and limit how horrible that demerit she had was. It didn't really work, but it was still pretty necessary. Still don't really love it though.
Honestly not that hyped about this summer event. Even with (not really a summer servant) Proto Merlin added to the mix. She is fine. Just not interested in whaling for her. Honestly I'm not that hyped about many of the JP servants that have come out this year. It's been pretty bleak for me.
I thought she was gonna be a new Buster support but IG Arts is just too dominant of a Meta
I mean we got himiko, Oberon, and koyanskya
@@akuuutan and Crane as well.
i mean, buster has himiko, merlin, koyanskaya, oberon, nightingale, chen gong and shakespeare
buster doesnt really need supports, they have plenty of strong options
@@shikiyama quick be like: 💀
Ruler Skadi has to swoop in to save quick it’s lookin grim out there even with the new changes to it , fingers crossed
She's expensive~
People telling tamamo is dead when she can go nicely with merlin
❤️😲
Good to know what I need to know about Proto Merlin. Honestly after Arc I'm glad this summer's mid to me except for merlin. All the year has been like that I think so I got SQ saved for this in a few years. Skadi has no choice but to somehow help NP gain unlike what her OG did with only her NP battery being the most relevant otherwise Quick loses again.
Lady Avalon feels lazy.
As someone as hyped up and anticipated as Proto Merlin, her kit, design, ascension, introduction to the game, feel VERY underwhelming. THE ONLY NEW SPRITE SHE GOT IS A MEDIOCRE SWIMSUIT THAT ISN'T USED IN THE FA? HELLO?
Straight up ripped from Arcade, pasted a swimsuit and called it a day.
This is not to say she's bad, I think she's great! But I wish they put a LITTLE more effort into her. I'll join the believer gang for Skadi though.
(As someone who also spends an adhorrant amount of money on the game, I feel like having standards is acceptable.)
The thing with her is she’s a proto servant so she has to be similar to her default form (merlin). Look at Arthur and proto cu before they gave them buffs to differentiate themselves. Arthur was a copy paste of altria just with an anti giant skill rather than a charisma. Proto merlin is the same but at least they changed her NP and skill effects though they are similar they’re not a copy paste.
@@deathnavy I meant a copy paste from Arcade.
Unlike DVR whose completely different. Sorry, should've mentioned that.
Bruh, her artist usually draw 3 same(almost) designs - just look at the Dioscuri or normal Merlin - I don't know what you have been expecting, but they did tried their best, and especially in terms of visual contents. And her third outfit doesn't look very similar to the first one too, since it looks a lot like a dress, not like a lewder version of original Merlin's outfit.
The only problem with her is that she is arts buffer by no reason(and maybe lack of team battery too).
How much hp can Jinako get from this now?
I don't see the issue at all with the NP...? You're mad that the np gain is scaling when its literally the same number as Merlin's NP. Only Lady Avalon's can be higher? Shes fine as she is as NP1. No incentive especially if you have other supports like castoria as well. Not to mention, Lady Avalon can get her NP up faster due to her skills and passive, so you can stack the effect.
I have Castoria so idk if I’ll roll for her in 2 years or not
Castoria for farming, proto Merlin for challenge quest that all, depen on u
@@hassansabbah6593 oh I see. Not essential
@@TwinkieSora 1 copy is what you need.
@@hassansabbah6593 even then there’s literally no need to roll for her when you can just get one off your friends list or use any other support.
CQs make a small margin of the game and the only time castoria loses in CQs is unless you’re just bringing a double castoria set up but even then you still have better replacements for that second slot
@@robotrooster5500 ok
is it safe to say that merlin onee san is better than merlin onii chan?
Guess it took 7 years for FGO players to understand that higher NP levels give benefits and it's ALWAYS been an icentive to whaling for NP levels? Guess its true that gacha players can't read
Plus, who are you competing agaisnt anyways? against some NPC enemy that always behaves the same on a turn-based game? rofl