FOX X2 SHOCK TECHNOLOGY EXPLAINED - FOX FACTORY, INC.

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  • Опубликовано: 3 янв 2025

Комментарии • 177

  • @wdiabc
    @wdiabc 8 лет назад +124

    profession offroad racing shocks packaged in bike shocks..... it is very well designed! Thumbs up to FOX

    • @wgeemin
      @wgeemin 3 года назад +2

      Wat ı'am turkişh. Sa türkler

  • @pli257
    @pli257 5 лет назад +51

    I have high Respect for those engineers

    • @christopherenault1486
      @christopherenault1486 Месяц назад

      Yes for sure... It will be better if the shock was working... Bad design causing body failure, cavitation etc... No fox damper anymore😂😂😂

  • @mojaverc1585
    @mojaverc1585 4 года назад +12

    This kind of stuff is why i am obsessed with suspension

  • @eduhgraficx
    @eduhgraficx 5 лет назад +4

    Best explanation ever!

  • @deaz2713
    @deaz2713 3 года назад +166

    They could literally just be flat-out lying to us and we would have no idea

    • @nasaggpot4308
      @nasaggpot4308 3 года назад +6

      @Rayan Crew Nice try bro

    • @SorobanWorld
      @SorobanWorld 3 года назад +6

      Can confirm that they may lie to you. I worked as a temp for these guys, and they have no problems with lying.

    • @dkdanis1340
      @dkdanis1340 3 года назад +2

      Well they can be disassembled plus their performance proves. Fox never lies.

    • @fradland2784
      @fradland2784 2 года назад +2

      Welcome to the sad water jet channel and today we will sadly be cutting a fox rear shock in half

    • @DriftJunkie
      @DriftJunkie 5 месяцев назад +1

      They could, but the tech explained here seems to be working very well and I believe, achieving effect I would deem, as a random engineer, as effective.

  • @taneliharkonen2463
    @taneliharkonen2463 4 года назад +3

    Wow.. That was a really good visualization and explanation... :O

  • @Alex1611AD
    @Alex1611AD 8 лет назад +174

    Trust me, I'm an engineer

    • @ShadowRifft
      @ShadowRifft 8 лет назад +5

      😛👍😎 serious!, I was wondering if there was a suspension that dampened recoil, and here's a tunable hydraulic one that also actively adjusts!

    • @DaStuntChannel
      @DaStuntChannel 4 года назад +1

      @@ShadowRifft Rebound damping? lol

    • @jasminselmanovic5037
      @jasminselmanovic5037 3 года назад

      Well I trust him and I almost ended up dead :)

    • @theequanimityst
      @theequanimityst 3 года назад

      Firstly, you are romanian,secondly why should I trust you? About what?

  • @Mapl3Syrup
    @Mapl3Syrup 5 лет назад +8

    I’ve watched this so many times and I still don’t understand how high and low speed is mechanically separated! I’m going to school for engineering and I’m still baffled

    • @revvilo
      @revvilo 5 лет назад +2

      Check out the Wikipedia page for "Check Valve"
      It's very simple if you can break it down in your head. The fluid opens the valve when it pushes one way (usually against a spring), but when it pushes the other direction, it _closes_ the valve.
      At 1:07 you'll see that if fluid was to push upward (from the bottom) on those check valves (the flat things that are highlighted with the circles), they would push against the body and create a seal, whereas if they are pushed from the top downward, they would open more.

    • @trailfork7815
      @trailfork7815 4 года назад +2

      low speed = small hole
      high speed= oil pressure opens a bigger hole which is "spring loaded"

    • @a.r.8850
      @a.r.8850 Год назад

      the damping circuits are not separated, high speed damping is an added circuit. if the speed/force is too low, only the lowspeed circuit is open. if there is enough force/speed to push the spring back, the oil can now flow through the low speed valve AND the high speed valve. the high speed knob adjusts how much force/speed is needed for the circuit to open (preload on the spring.

    • @mrnorthz9373
      @mrnorthz9373 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@revviloisnt that the one way valve? Hes asking a different question

  • @travis8592
    @travis8592 6 лет назад +11

    K I just zoned out completely gotta relisten to this again.

  • @philipcooper8297
    @philipcooper8297 3 года назад +1

    Shocking video.

  • @luxuryviplifestyle9494
    @luxuryviplifestyle9494 4 года назад

    Trillions like and best comment for you because you are best on Earth and follower respect you,we need videos in Real 120fps or 240fps 4K,8K and Sound in FullHD Surrounded..

  • @teknology01
    @teknology01 9 лет назад +74

    Now if it only came with instructions on how to tune it.

    • @trailfork7815
      @trailfork7815 4 года назад +2

      me: *copies pro riders settings

    • @exactly3179
      @exactly3179 4 года назад +3

      @@trailfork7815 but it only works if youre a pro rider too :(

  • @julienvigne3601
    @julienvigne3601 4 года назад

    Its so nice i swear i bought a FR AMR 6.7 AL U and this suspension is in there is so sweet
    !!!

  • @RiderBlitz1.0
    @RiderBlitz1.0 3 года назад

    Technology at its peak

  • @CheekSteve
    @CheekSteve 5 лет назад +8

    My brain is a pizza right now

  • @onurcantokus
    @onurcantokus 9 лет назад +2

    Best shock!

  • @sofianesghr3689
    @sofianesghr3689 3 года назад

    Nice vidéo thanks...

  • @theodounis
    @theodounis 5 лет назад +2

    I’m a mechanical engineer as well for float X2 rear shock best shock on the planet

    • @Absmnd647
      @Absmnd647 5 лет назад

      i guess cane creek double barrel ist still better, the db was the first mtb shock with this technology;) fox x2 and rockshox vivid just copied this floating oil system..

    • @bakkenuftor
      @bakkenuftor 4 года назад

      @@Absmnd647 Wrong. The guy that designed CCDB was also helping designing the DHX2 and Float X2. Float X2 and DHX2 is better designed, more durable and stiffer than the CCDB.

    • @Andrea-qg5yk
      @Andrea-qg5yk 4 года назад

      @@bakkenuftor "more complex" doesn't necessarily mean "better". There are a lot of shocks that some say are better and less complicated (DVO Topaz air/SR Suntour Triair which are basically the same shock), and there are a lot of shocks that are better and more complicated (EXT's Stora for example)

  • @novacolonel5287
    @novacolonel5287 7 лет назад +78

    What?

  • @Shabobidhuffy
    @Shabobidhuffy 3 месяца назад

    That would be cool if they made a bypass zone shock , like they make for off road vehicles. Or even an external mini hydro bump stop.

  • @leyy5724
    @leyy5724 3 года назад +1

    I love those shock and i love the price hahaha

  • @dheadandia8534
    @dheadandia8534 3 года назад

    proses aliran udara dari tabung ke tabung sangat baik " jadi terasa nyaman / empukkk

  • @loucaspetrou9651
    @loucaspetrou9651 3 года назад

    in other words its the best shock out there

  • @Shadow_of_STLKR
    @Shadow_of_STLKR 6 лет назад

    Great video,l nicely shown.

  • @cassiushamilton1759
    @cassiushamilton1759 4 года назад +1

    yo that's crazy

  • @BOOMBIKE
    @BOOMBIKE 4 года назад +10

    🙀🙀🙀

  • @jamesmerkel9442
    @jamesmerkel9442 4 года назад

    Hving a full brace u put your leg into instead of just on a peddle, might b good start. Problem is u hve to b able to put foot down or drag it. So the leg/ bike brace would hve to attach to u & then u step onto peddle, w/brace. This will give u suspension pnts on both legs & protect the lower legs.

  • @vibrio
    @vibrio 8 лет назад +3

    can the shims on the main piston be tuned or does it not make a difference if you are a lighter/heavier rider?

  • @jasonblake5178
    @jasonblake5178 4 года назад

    You guys should make trasnparent shocks so you can see what happens inside

  • @JJ-bo4ir
    @JJ-bo4ir 8 лет назад

    this is very technical

  • @sallyodgers99
    @sallyodgers99 3 года назад +1

    Now the prices make sense.

  • @davidschnabel5026
    @davidschnabel5026 6 лет назад

    Well Engineered

  • @ksawiprod9140
    @ksawiprod9140 7 лет назад

    And here I am with my Duncon and swinger 6 way coil

  • @sahajization
    @sahajization 8 лет назад +29

    Its not so easy to understand just because you've said it out loud with a graphic presentation... there are so many questions to ask -_________-

  • @jamesmerkel9442
    @jamesmerkel9442 4 года назад

    Next is handle bars & grip: Fast peddling means rocking back & forth side to side, but w/Ebike or motor bike that is not a factor.

    • @jamesmerkel9442
      @jamesmerkel9442 4 года назад

      Safety factor is disconnect the hands from grips/steering & not flipping over. Which style is safer grip parallel or perpendicular to frame(pedaling or more important Ebike not)

    • @jamesmerkel9442
      @jamesmerkel9442 4 года назад

      Mayb 45 deg so u can still peddle but fine if don't but still good control of steering.

    • @jamesmerkel9442
      @jamesmerkel9442 4 года назад

      Or try all 3 grips in 1 peddle or 45 deg or perpendicular in 1 important to keep control of steering. 3 grips left & 3 grips right side. Speediest crouched 10speed style least control.

  • @stevepx8675
    @stevepx8675 5 лет назад

    The zoom animation is difficult to understand because the oil inlet hole is missing under the compression part, as is the case under the detente part.

  • @juliusstuff
    @juliusstuff 8 лет назад +1

    just wondering what are the difference of fox dhx2 rvs elite to fox dhx2 rvs

  • @bluestonebest1893
    @bluestonebest1893 4 года назад

    it's an heart!!

  • @willshawyer7280
    @willshawyer7280 4 года назад +1

    What the hell does slow and fast rebound mean?!

    • @matess3655
      @matess3655 4 года назад +1

      It's how fast the shock goes back to the original position after being compressed

    • @willshawyer7280
      @willshawyer7280 4 года назад

      Matess 36 ik that but what’s slow and fast rebound

    • @matess3655
      @matess3655 4 года назад +1

      Idk how to explain it more, it's self explainatory. Well slow rebound is when it takes longer for the shock to reset, fast rebound is when it resets quickly.

    • @willshawyer7280
      @willshawyer7280 4 года назад

      Matess 36 no I mean slow speed rebound tuning and fast speed rebound tuning, like on the fox x2 with different tuning types

    • @matess3655
      @matess3655 4 года назад

      I'm new to tuning shocks, I thought you only needed to explain rebound, I can't help with anything more.

  • @mackorattopp
    @mackorattopp 4 года назад

    Does this technology apply to the shock absorbers of the Ford raptor?

  • @pedroferrer9436
    @pedroferrer9436 3 года назад

    What does the big oil piston chamber at the right do?

  • @tristanmorton1057
    @tristanmorton1057 6 лет назад

    So how much travel would a shock like this have

  • @tudorionescu1292
    @tudorionescu1292 6 лет назад +7

    i dOn'T UndErsTAnD m8

  • @eguardoandre6831
    @eguardoandre6831 2 года назад

    Hola, tienen información en español.. se los agradecería

  • @jamesgadd5322
    @jamesgadd5322 8 лет назад

    is this the recalled one?

  • @kennyreaves2036
    @kennyreaves2036 7 лет назад

    I have a 2018 Float X2 on a Santa Cruz Bronson. I weigh 160-165 pounds with all gear. What settings do you recommend to start with?

    • @sumnerbob2254
      @sumnerbob2254 7 лет назад

      20% sag depends on your riding

    • @obi-wankenobi9871
      @obi-wankenobi9871 6 лет назад

      28-33% sag. 20 for the fork. 20 for the rear is way too little.

  • @endurotruckererniedesjardins
    @endurotruckererniedesjardins 6 лет назад

    Where is a good place to send a fox rear shock for repair. Bought a dh bike that came with a thought to be blown rear shock... turns out the bone head was turning the damper shaft to adjust preload and the nut that hokds the piston onto the damper shaft unthreaded n came off. No damage just the shim stack went all mixed up.

    • @obi-wankenobi9871
      @obi-wankenobi9871 6 лет назад

      Send it to fox or go to your local bikeshop for a rebuild.

  • @mtb0161
    @mtb0161 9 лет назад +1

    Cool

  • @ScramblerOfDakota
    @ScramblerOfDakota 8 лет назад +1

    Recall?

    • @CircusNormal
      @CircusNormal 8 лет назад +2

      Total

    • @dingusmagee3326
      @dingusmagee3326 6 лет назад

      Recall what? They recalled the air can on the x2 and repaired all of them in field for free soo what is your issue? Things get recalled, no company is perfect, welcome to consumerism in the real world.

  • @gus6601
    @gus6601 8 лет назад

    If I upgraded my enduro with the DHX2 would I lose my climbing capability?

    • @msyoiyuuko
      @msyoiyuuko 8 лет назад

      Kyl Shreds not all climbing capability, you would lose most of the power given in a pedal stroke, however it is more progressive for downhills

    • @mikedicke5505
      @mikedicke5505 5 лет назад

      Cooper Seligay not if you have a climb switch 👍🏼 I have one on my trail bike and it’s stellar!

    • @Absmnd647
      @Absmnd647 5 лет назад

      yes, the x2 is more focused towards downhill/harder enduro ..for a really stiff pedaling platform the dps series is great (staying at fox)

  • @e-bikerides4618
    @e-bikerides4618 2 года назад

    Can someone verify that with faster Rebound (less rebound damping) you increase the mid stroke suppot and bottom out resistance?
    I have cross check this countless times but i ve never seen anyone mention it.

    • @fraserdavidson6900
      @fraserdavidson6900 Год назад +1

      Not sure if you are still looking for the answer but rebound will not do much for support. What you need is compression adjustment. Rebound only (in theory) works as the damper is extending. It’s the adjustment that prevents the bike from bucking you off.
      Compression damping is the resistance to the damper being squished as it’s moving.
      Keep in mind that “mid support” can also be caused by suspension kinematic design and the ramp rate of the spring + any friction effects going on.

  • @radumihai811
    @radumihai811 4 года назад

    genuis

  • @Kkkamen1
    @Kkkamen1 9 месяцев назад +1

    The X2 is probably the least reliable shock compared to all others combined. They are good at marketing, not products

  • @jackbeames7643
    @jackbeames7643 5 лет назад

    This is cool but I don’t get it. I have dpx2 is this similar

  • @dictionarsis
    @dictionarsis 3 года назад

    It's 5 years ago product but nowadays price is more expensive.

  • @MattCortez
    @MattCortez 9 лет назад

    Soundtrack?

    • @ShadowRifft
      @ShadowRifft 8 лет назад

      "Epic Design" by the Background Engineers... 😛 (jk)

  • @m00nchildblues
    @m00nchildblues 4 года назад

    I have oil in secondary nitrogen chamber= $300 service fix??? Is this not a mfgr defect?

    • @Andrea-qg5yk
      @Andrea-qg5yk 4 года назад

      Welcome to shitty fox products and service! If your suspension doesn't work as intended, well fuck you! Give us 400€ and we'll fix it (maybe).
      Fox stuff is just not worth it for me. Just get Rockshox or Suntour if you're more on the budget side

  • @conceptcs
    @conceptcs 4 года назад

    How did the first cyclist not fall off his bike like that. Holy sheezzz. skillz

  • @samb2334
    @samb2334 4 года назад

    ROCKSHOX FOR LIFE🤟🤘🤘 srry fox😂

  • @jamesmerkel9442
    @jamesmerkel9442 4 года назад

    So 3 & 3 grip but it needs to disconnection rider from bike by huge stem shock system.

  • @andhapasor6052
    @andhapasor6052 6 лет назад

    😍😍😍😍

  • @alixramos3589
    @alixramos3589 2 года назад

    Now i know why those freakin shox is so freakin exorbitant

  • @Cfbrolley1320
    @Cfbrolley1320 3 года назад +4

    Ok *now* I understand why they're so expensive. There's 3 bikes worth of engineering in the shock alone.

  • @gopromountainbike901
    @gopromountainbike901 6 лет назад +3

    That the mount for MTB JUMPING my mountain bike don’t have súpension because if I jump it will break the axle hub

  • @chrisbarbz9238
    @chrisbarbz9238 3 года назад

    Ok. I regret looking this up.

  • @mushroom0006
    @mushroom0006 4 года назад

    I d like to have it :(

  • @HarryL2020
    @HarryL2020 7 лет назад

    now I just need to tune it...

  • @thamerendyck1795
    @thamerendyck1795 7 лет назад

    Or is it shockoligy??????😎

  • @jamesmerkel9442
    @jamesmerkel9442 4 года назад

    Last is seating again w/biking BMX or motor cross bal & standing or partial seating is v/diff from just riding a bike. The old style banana seats r safest, bc u hve largest area to land back down on. U can jump w/2 riders & still land it. Hving a modern hinged in middle banana seat gives u 2 seats in 1 & positions to rest on or against or actual sit back down on. Bc it is hinged if u know going to take a hit u want to b rear most shocks absorption 2 on back & most travel. So many dynamics w/speed & jumps BMX & NOW Ebikes r more motor cross then req biking. It needs the connection pnts disconnected from bike.

    • @jamesmerkel9442
      @jamesmerkel9442 4 года назад

      Normal BMX 4 hve frame flex shock & front fork shocks but need leg bracing shocks right at peddles & seat shocks w center hinge & u need a seam steering shock system as well. Skimp on any of these connection pnts & not wearing BMX type safety gear & it is not going to end well. Ebike who knew. Best I can do just taking a swing at it.

  • @hainman1
    @hainman1 8 лет назад

    is there a reason m not using my full travel,I'm running a 200x50 shock,but was wondering if this is the same shock as the 200x57 but with a washer or something in it meaning i don't use the last wee bit of travel but I'm actually getting full travel,

    • @obi-wankenobi9871
      @obi-wankenobi9871 8 лет назад

      You would get even more travel with a 57mm stroke, but only if your linkage system supports that.

  • @angelalvarado7228
    @angelalvarado7228 4 года назад

    Quisiera una suspensión Fox😢

  • @czayoo799
    @czayoo799 6 лет назад

    1:54 b twin

  • @nealblackburn8628
    @nealblackburn8628 Год назад

    some engineer spent countless hours designing this so don't be too hard on yourself if you don't understand it watching a two and a half minute video...this is for the most part sales propergander but if you watch it enough times you should be able to get a reasonable idea as to what is going on

  • @emirerden9475
    @emirerden9475 7 лет назад

    woow

  • @digvt
    @digvt 7 лет назад +2

    but may explode with the introduction of air

  • @platin2148
    @platin2148 3 года назад

    For bikes i prefer wp.

  • @linlinlixin2637
    @linlinlixin2637 6 лет назад +1

    Enduro

  • @Nutzcoinz
    @Nutzcoinz 3 года назад

    This is retro engenering from ufo

  • @wise--men
    @wise--men 3 года назад

    Could you manufacture one of these on a 1/8 scale for my RC Traxxas Maxx? Pleeeeeaaseee! rsrsrs

  • @kacpermarek1180
    @kacpermarek1180 6 лет назад

    Fox fox !!!☺😅😂👍👍👍

  • @cristobalmunoz9222
    @cristobalmunoz9222 5 лет назад

    Nice video sig sey into good enseñ of thes suspension of FOX float x2 is ryalment interesants yuor techniques. Cya from the Santig of Chile 🇨🇱 nice day 👍♥️🚵🍀🇺🇲♥️

  • @robax3r
    @robax3r 3 года назад

    your best shocks will always be your legs...

    • @EliB207
      @EliB207 2 года назад

      Nah your spine is way better

  • @nuthintoprove
    @nuthintoprove Год назад

    That technology has been around since the 40's It's nothing special. Just better packaging and anodized nobs. Get with it Fox and give us something special.

  • @mtbaustralia7047
    @mtbaustralia7047 4 года назад

    My wallet hates me...

  • @javierguerrero7465
    @javierguerrero7465 9 лет назад +17

    Copy-paste Ohlins TT tecnology!!

    • @sumnerbob2254
      @sumnerbob2254 7 лет назад +9

      how is it copy paste? most companies use the same technology...plus fox has been in the game even before ohlins.

    • @dingusmagee3326
      @dingusmagee3326 6 лет назад +1

      I'm not sure what you're trying to claim, I suppose just name dropping Ohlin's and mentioning "technology" to seem like you have even a basic understanding of what's going on here. Ohlin's doesn't have a monopoly on damper architecture. You can't patent damper architecture, only a VERY specific way in which you were to implement said "technology", as you call it. The same design principles have and are being used in countless other products by countless other manufacturers.

  • @dal_dzhazu
    @dal_dzhazu 9 лет назад +2

    Понятно теперь почему они столько стоят...

    • @ValeraMur
      @ValeraMur 9 лет назад +2

      +Saimon Kravt половина цены за обоср*вшийся в 2 раза курс рубля

  • @Lordosvk
    @Lordosvk 5 лет назад

    599,00 €

  • @thedamntrain5481
    @thedamntrain5481 3 года назад

    me with a zoom non ajustable fork at 25 bucks : ;(

  • @jamesmerkel9442
    @jamesmerkel9442 4 года назад

    for the masses I don't thick it is safe to bmx bike/ ebike. Jids sure or teens but not masses. Need a new design that disconnect rider from basic bike design contact pnts, but as yet I got nothing. In motor cross u hve padding & helmets & chest guards & more frame but on bikes it is not safe margin. God/JBM my option for what it is worth. U never forget how to but doesn't mean your still able to & that is a req bike not BMX or NOW Ebike.

  • @jasminselmanovic5037
    @jasminselmanovic5037 3 года назад

    Well i trust those engineers and i and I almost ended up dead :) :) (joke)

  • @extremeoffroad-snowmountai9084
    @extremeoffroad-snowmountai9084 4 года назад

    👍👍👍🤝🙏❤️

  • @gracjanwatorski917
    @gracjanwatorski917 6 лет назад

    i hear sexs you say fox xd

  • @oogabooga4047
    @oogabooga4047 5 лет назад

    What

  • @hend709
    @hend709 3 года назад

    Bingung 😂

  • @abymathew295
    @abymathew295 3 года назад

    This thing is more complex than an IC engine..LoL..

  • @wlb2580
    @wlb2580 7 лет назад +1

    All I can say is that they are expensive garbage they came on my yxz1000r complete junk

    • @davidcozma3583
      @davidcozma3583 6 лет назад

      wlb2580 this is a dh bike shock,not moto

  • @sygnalistaZDR
    @sygnalistaZDR 5 лет назад

    Speak Polish please! :(

  • @MrVfmen
    @MrVfmen 8 месяцев назад

    락샥에 딤플위치 오류와 더불어
    8년동안 삽질 할줄 누가 알았으랴???

  • @nts0011
    @nts0011 8 лет назад

    looks little too complicated to work stable for longer than 1-2 race, so it's advanced expensive peace of shit :))
    In most cases advanced complications are almost only for marketing purpose only (to rise up prices). So because of that I'm using rock shox, i't just working ok and for a long without huge maintenance.

    • @Moretrailsmorecamping
      @Moretrailsmorecamping 8 лет назад

      nonsense man, i work on huge hydraulic machines with similar technology and its built too last, got to love hydraulics.

    • @chrisgall4664
      @chrisgall4664 8 лет назад +1

      You have no idea what your talking about. This is just as reliable as previous fox or other standard type shocks but this system provides more consistent damping while in use. Check out Ohlins TTX, same thing. It also requires less time to revalve due to the shim stacks being so easily accessible.

    • @sumnerbob2254
      @sumnerbob2254 7 лет назад

      there basically the same technology :P

    • @obi-wankenobi9871
      @obi-wankenobi9871 6 лет назад

      YOu can ride this for months without servicing it.

  • @aaronsharman8031
    @aaronsharman8031 6 лет назад

    Cough cough. Simple...