DID PIGMEAT MARKHAM , CAB CALLOWAY & THE LAST POETS INFLUENCE RAP MUSIC & HIP HOP CULTURE? - JAYQUAN
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- Опубликовано: 17 янв 2021
- JayQuan examines the influence of Pigmeat Markham, Gil Scott Heron, The Last Poets and others on Rap & Hip Hop culture
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People gotta understand Hip Hop culture is new (40+ years). But rap has always been here.
I always tried to convey the younger generation that someone like Cab Callaway was a big influence on hip hop. He had swag, style, rap, ladies, and openly smoked weed, which back in those days was referred to as reefer.
My Mentor Quincy Jones told me there is a connection with blues, Hard Bop ,Bebop,DooWop & HipHop.
Miles Davis Last album was called Doo bop...His last album Rubberband is a Hip Hop album...
Dont forget Jean Claude T. The Bicentennial poet and Lavon Lambeth Vel Records 1975.
100% Facts. Ain’t nothing new under the sun.
I think it is clear that there is more than one person, one crew, one genre or any singular factor that birthed Hip-Hop. This is good of course, because no one can claim ownership of it. History must still be acknowledged of course, salute.
Nope that’s false. Anyone can claim ownership
Nope that’s false! Nobody but Black Americans can claim ownership! Everything we do is not for everybody and that ends now! We are not our ancestors!
Is like Bam says: "Rap always was there in some form". Since Beale Street Sheiks , Black musicians recorded a kind of rhytmic talking instead singing.
RAP IS IN ALL MUSIC SINCE DAY ONE
I think your interview with Pete "DJ" Jones summed it up with him stating that it was a progression. I'm paraphrasing. If Jocko was Philly and NY's number 1 DJ at one point rhyming over records doing a show, I don't think it could be overlooked. It may not be Hip-Hop music as we know it, but it's definitely a contribution.
This channel deserves a million subs. Dope content.
Thank you! Respect!
I agree
Pigment mark ham also had “who got the number” and it sounds like an old version of a rap duo rhyming. “Hustlers convention” also influenced the early modern rappers
All of this comes from toasting, it was rhyming to tell a story. It was done throughout the south, and even influenced Jamaicans Sound systems when they would pick up the radio signals, but they were emulating the radio personality who was toasting, but in a short form. That was called jive talking, as was said in the video
Hip hop music is just a mix of radio personality type rhyming with disco type of djing. That is all it is but for some reason people try to make it complicated and mysterious, especially with the Jamaican nonsense. All the originators told us what influenced them, and none said Jamaica. Even kool herc said he couldn’t play reggae music at parties, so that myth needs to die so the truth can be told
Family if God is my witness thankyou so much because I'm going to put this hiphop word to sleep with In a few weeks. I Have a documentary I'm working on now as we speak. The bosses I know personally from the jamaican sound systems are going to put everyone from my era false claims to rest. Why because they feel bad that our own people trying to take credit for what our forefathers left us. I'm not spitting in none of they face even pigment or the jubalaires. Do you see other nationalities discrediting their ancestors or forefathers? It dont matter if they was rapping alongside a DJ or not. Alot of rappers now dont use DJs when they recording songs in the studio! Then everyone from the bronx telling me to worship Kool Herc and say f... my forefathers over him. Is that era crazy? There is no such thing is a era. What era? You never forget where you come from. Honor thy mothers and fathers! As a DJ I'm not dissing the jubalaires and worshipping Kool Herc instead. When he explained what he created; I said as a DJ, that's not creation. I cant believe I'm living and seeing this nonsense. Everybody that worship hiphop from my era is trying strong arm the masses into worshipping these bronx cats. The jubalaires dont gotta claim hiphop. Thankyou RUclips and everybody for exposing the jubalaires to the young generation right now. God please bless my forefathers and ancestors for leaving this art to us. My they souls SIP. I wish I would disregard them because they didn't claim that stinking demonic term hiphop. That word brings negative energy for some reason now. Its called rapping for life from this point on regardless when, where and how they did it! We saw the evidence. Evidence don't lie. Is battle rappers using a beat at these battles now? No. I've been to many shows and ddnt see a DJ. Everybody go to my page and see the sneak preview coming right now. I'm begging you. And pay attention to what my jamaican brothers that I know and knew personally? SIP father Coxsane Dodd. I wish you was here to see this in America! I hate that word break beat because I watched my whole neighborhood in 1970s dance off them soul music songs. That didn't take no needle off of nothing. That rocked off the whe whole song and a good time. The jubalaires and the others American artists are the fathers of my culture. They worship Kool herc like he sat in the studio and help james brown invent the funky drummer or something. He dont know how to do tricks on the set, rap or creat a beat. Are y'all serious? What platform he created for my whole nationality to worship? Maybe for the Bronx he did. They keep telling me till this day they had to wait like slaves for him to introduce they own American music to them. That's sounds crazy like rufus only made one copy of a record like do the funky penguin for only Kool Herc to play for the masses. And Barry Gordy only made one copy for Kool Herc to play only for the bronx cats. Man maybe I need to seek mental health or something. The American people went crazy all of sudden with these decisions.
Man I had read your comment again. Thankyou family. My Goodness thankyou. What's wrong with our people of society today. Respect to the Bronx for a sub culture they created behind the art of rapping that came before all of them was born but; I'm sitting here thinking that if the new generation bronx cats had came up with a term called any other word for singing; for example they said ok y'all let's call singing zip harmony for example and now Barry white and other singers are dead now in 2021; so now we're saying that Barry white and those that came before us, didn't claim that what they was doing on the microphone and recording over a beat didn't claim and say that they was zip harmony artists in 2021 because the new bronx generation made up a another word for singing; so now what they was recording back then dont count now because the new generation Bronx cats is singing in the street 2021? And now because the new generation of people alive now, who was never alive to talk to Barry white, didn't hear Barry white and those that came before us, say out they own mouth that they was apart of a newly invented word, zip harmony that was created by this new 2021 generation, the old singing artists dont count because they didn't claim that word zip harmony? Or call the original form of style of singing back then, zip harmony? Wow. Lmao. What human beings have became to be because of worshiping symbolism! This is crazy. Symbolism, Symbolism. Wow.
@@djgeebelly114 no doubt!
Black Americans also need to realize that the word toasting came from us too, not just the act itself. That's that old Iceberg Slim black American player's ball verbiage.
@@americasmaker yep!
I’m soon to be 56 years old, so I’ve been into all the elements of Hip Hop. I want to state for the record, that your channel is the most historically significant resource out there! Bravo!
When i was jammin rap on my box in 83- 84 my Mom would pass by and go, Here comes The Judge. She never said why and i would always be- WTF ?
That's crazy
My Daddy, too!
Thanks for the Education JayQuan! Wow! That "5 on the Blackhand Side" movie clip was filled with samples an inspiration from rap records from the Sugar Hill Gang to Ghostface Killah! For me, when I think of early 70's urban rhyme in pop culture along with the ones you mentioned, I think of "Lootin Lenny" from the TV show "Good Times."
Yes sir!!!
Brother you know this history and it enjoying to hear you break it down, because you be on point with it. 👊
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I see you Caz! Respect.
The homie JayQuan always spot on. Check this', Hip Hop got its own 'style' of 'rappin',,rappin been around before hip hop, Hip Hop does its own version of it, taking from many sources , not just ones mentioned here, Gospel & Disco are heavy influencers to the evolution of 'modern rappin' with gospel being a major influencer to all 'rappin' period.
Thumbed up before I even watched this.
Also add the tradition of "toasting" over reggae beats to the influences of rap.
I would say to anyone that says that what Cab Calloway was doing was 'rapping' is that what Cab was doing already had a name, and that is 'scatting' which has its own rich history that does lead to rap but is distinct from it. Love this video, JayQuan; thank you very much!
Toasting is what started it, thats what cool herc brought to the bronx from Jamaica
@@ike6209 No. Black Americans were toasting way before they ever even heard any Jamaican music. Look up a book called the life poetry of the black Hustler.
@@Number1DriversSeat yes you are right about that they were jive talking my pop use to call it but rhyming when jive talking jamaican always copied what they did america from singing over Rhythm and blues songs over on different riddim and dressing like them and they still sing over american songs today nothing wrong with that
Cindy Campbell confirmed that U-Roy was a direct influence. I think the bigger picture is that diaspora has been in communication for a long time in ways that weren’t obvious to everyone
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That is FALSE no Black American never heard of no toasting or whatever yall call that which is not rapping Jamaicans have always copied Black Americans we never copied yall stop spreading that lie it has already debunked as junk none of it came from that! Hip hop has nothing to do with anything Jamaican or Latin! It is a Black Americans culture! You can lie to yourself but the truth will always remain! Not even Herc who copied and followed us ever made that claim he told the truth a lot back in the days he maybe trying to sing a different song now but his older recordings are out for all to listen to! But I get it people like you don’t want the truth you rather live with lie it makes you feel good!
The Jubilaires footage is from 1941 and the Barbereshop footage is 1973.
Context is King, indeed
Rap is music, Hip-Hop is a subculture. Rap started in the South, Hip-Hop started in New York. Rap is sometimes called Hip-Hop because it's the music of Hip-Hop.
Both are EXCLUSIVELY Foundational Black American creations. 🇺🇸✊🏾🇺🇸✊🏽🇺🇸✊🏿
No
@@randee4550 YES🤭
@@melanatedwarrior3530 You're not. You're part of no crew. NEVER been down with Hip-Hop. You're removed from my CULTURE, in every aspect. You don't rep any block.. NOBODY knows you. You don't partake in anything Hip-Hop ever. Not before, not now, not ever.
If you were from here, you'd be getting your ass beat, by Puerto Ricans daily. You wouldn't survive a day, in my part of town.
Where started in South?. And who??? And when???
BIGFACTS💯
Last Poets, Watts Prophets, Gil Scott-Heron....and Jalal Nuriddin of Last Poets did Hustlers Convention as Lightning Rod
"I am giving out nothing but hard times and bubble gum and I'm fresh out of bubble gum" min 7:27 This line was used by Roddy Piper in the 80s movie "They Live" where he said "I came to kick ass and chew bubblegum and I'm fresh out of bubble gum".
Yeah, I peep that, too. I'm like, okay, so must have inspired. "They Live." Which is a classic movie line
You neva cease to amaze me. How hiphop/RAP morphed from this is beyond my imagination. Thanx bro.
jay, you always do a great job, keep it up brother. bye far the best youtube channel going.
Being a part of the essence of Hip Hop as well, everything you said is spot on my good Brother! 💯👑💎💪🏿
Completely thorough as usual.
Thank you!
Another excellent breakdown with historical content that can be heard in later music. That''s one of the things I like most about your history lessons. I'm often finding myself say "I heard that before".
Thanks for looking!
@@TheFoundationhiphop My pleasure. 😊
Man Jayquan this is dope !.. i've heard of all these artists from the 40's and beyond but i really enjoyed the way you laced it all together . Just like a pair of Adidas with fat laces. BOOM! Peace.
Thanks for watching. Respect
Hell yea my father had the Last Poets Album still remember their song about the dollar
Biz Markie has a track named Groovin where he amusingly pays homage to the rap cadence where your rapping or speaking with an open mouth &
grin on your face.. UK Radio presenters of yesteryear also used to adopt an Atlantic accent where they would copy the Us cadence. This was parodied by a comedian duo named Smashey & Nicey . The radio dj is also copying the Us cadence in a scene in the 1972 Jamaican movie.. The harder they come.
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Some additions.
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There's a folk band named.. Love .. They have a song on there 1967 album named.. bummer in the summer.
The Last Poets - It's a trip ...is a classic Jazz dance song in the Uk.
Nikki Giovanni & The New York Community Choir - Ego Trippin. (1971) is a poem with funky beats & hand claps
Yes yes JayQuan..
YO! THIS WAS DOPE, BROTHER!! AND VERY NECESSARY!!! SALUTE!
Salute bro. Thanks for watching!
Excellent lesson. I would submit Eugene McDaniels "Unspoken Dreams Of Light
" as another fine example of the vocal technique before "modern day rap" was established. Cadence, wordplay, production, its a whopper. Personally, I feel King Pleasure and Jon Hendricks were influential as well; popular in their day but now they're rarely mentioned. Perhaps even Merle Travis' "Lost John" might fit the definition of "early rap" on a record. The more I look into the topic, the farther back I discover amazing examples.
Thank you
Soo much 4 doing this video
Hip hop history much love ❤️❤️💯
🔥 Appreciate the insight my brother! 💯
I had picked up a book about 22 years ago on the Black tradition of Toasting. My cousin from Michigan came to town (Baltimore) and saw the book and flipped. He reminded me of how our grandfather used to "toast" in the tradition of Dolemite and the cat from the scene in Five on the Black Hand Side. I can't recall the title of the book, but I implore you to try to find it.
One of my friends Dads gave me one called “The Life” that collected Black toasts back in the late ‘90s that was actually from the ‘70s. I think Ice T said he was memorizing and speaking those before he began rapping.
Great video -
Superb presentation JayQuan.
@8:00 minutes,the man said,' "The women fight for my delight" It quite obvious now where Sugar Hill Gang got some of there lyrics from.This is why history is so important.
Yes, they did. Hip Hop is more than music. A lot of people don’t understand that.
Cab calloway was the real originator of rock n rool
This is perfect... Thank You !!
Great episode Brother!!!
Louis Jordan- Jump Blues Singing Cowboy
...Look Out Sister movie (1947)
I always liked this couplet Louis Jordan made on “Saturday Night Fish Fry”, “And there’s free admission/if you’re a cook/or a waiter/or a good musician.”
Very well done piece! ✊🏽✊🏽💯
🔥 great video
Amazing footage of the brothers and sisters dancing! I stumbled upon your channel but I'll say that I'm going to definitely subscribe!
That means everything. Thank you
You'll learn a LOT from Jay. I definitely consider him an authoritative scholar.
@@suave_d Definitely seems like it.
I knew would do this one but I'm shocked and did not see one coming thanks alot well appreciate rip lighting rod of last poets great job my brother from another mother jayquan
Great breakdown
Thank you!
African been Rapping from the beginning bro
Shoot me the footage
Another splendid episode.
Really good video brother thank you
Last Poets - Garden of Delights LP is a must!
If you look at the history rapping comes from toasting which was common among Black people for most of the 20th century before the birth of Hip hop.
Many of the popular toasts were is circulating the prison systems in and barbershops in and Pool halls. Check out the book “The Life: Folklore of the black hustler” by Dennis Wepman. it’s a collection of toasts circulating in the black community decades before hip-hop.
And let’s not forget the hustler convention album by lightning rod.
All mentioned in my piece
@@TheFoundationhiphop
Coke La Rock Said that the main influence for hip-hop was James Brown and the hustler convention album. But hustlers and particularly pimps Have been known for saying colorful toast for decades way before hip hop.
“Bubblegum and hard times and I’m fresh outta bubblegum” Roddy Roddy Piper bit that line lol.
I agree, bro! keep up the dopeness!
Thank you for your video
Thanks for that,
Here Comes The Judge. Wow.
Fantastic JayQuan the origin
Here comes the judge was definitely Rap, by modern-day rap standards.
It wasn't "Proto" rap, at all.
I've seen interviews of guys from the South Bronx discussing how that song influence them. When it came to rapping.
I'm talking about Michael Wayne RUclips page.
He talks a lot and interviews a lot about hip hop history.
I'm familiar with Michael Wayne TV. In fact he has posted on this thread. I'll agree to disagree that what Pigmeat did was what the late 70s rap records were. I ended my piece (and stated throughout) that there was a clear influence.
@@TheFoundationhiphop
There's hip-hop, and then there's rap. What they were doing was rap, what New York did, in the streets, for free, was Hip Hop culture.
The moment Kurtis Blow, furious 5, sugar hill, signed their record contracts back '79, it wasn't hip hop, it was a musical genre for the corporations.
That's rap.
Last thing, I know that you kept regarding generations of Hip Hop and the contributions as "we" and "our".
Unfortunately, brother, those New Yorkers will never accept you as part of their hip-hop culture, seeing that you are from the south, just like I am.
Yo you bought me back with the dip dip da so socialize 😂
Great information
Answering the title. Hell yeah!
We're gotta get the channel to 100K subscribers this year bro!
Way before hip-hop the origins of that pigmeat marham here comes the judge i got that 45 single till this day from my parents 45 record collection on chess records legendary blues label and a lot more Jay Quan amazing work brother keep the knowledge from growing in hip-hop peace out the foundation oh i forgot the beginning of that here comes the judge drum beat kool moe dee use that same drum beat on the song called bad bad bad on the funkee funkee wisdom album back in 1991 im out
People get confused thinking Rap is Hip Hop when really Rap is a part of Hip Hop ... not the other way around .
Hip Hop is a combo of things that Already Existed ...
The Barber at 8:05 was the driver in Dog Day Afternoon - 1975.
Also, was Gary Byrd the host / presenter, in the British, 'Arena' Hip Hop documentary, from 1984 called, 'Beat This - A Hip Hop History' ?
Cheers.
Yes @Beat This
Great podcast brother. I'm not in the hip hop generation and don't really know the difference between hip hop culture and rap music. What I do know is when I was growing up (I'm 73) rapping was how you talked to a girl you liked. That is why guys like Issac Hayes, Lou Rawls , Jerry Butler, and Barry White were so popular. The first time I heard the song "Rapper's Delight", I thiught it was a nice song but more of a novelty song than the begginings of a different genre of music and why I never coukld really get into it because I thought of it more as "coming of age music" and by that time I was well into my 20s.
Thank you Jayquan for this history lesson & look back in time that I never knew about & I'm a 60 yr. old male from NYC who started listening to hip hop in the 80's although I was familiar with King Tim the Third & The Last Poets...blessings!
Good insight
This is dope
SPECIAL THANKS 🙏🏿 THIS IS A GEM 💎. GREATLY APPRECIATE IT.
Peace 7 Yo that shirt is mad 😡 🔥 flames, I need ONE ☝️ ☀️! Dope upload..
I'll send you the link to cop one. Salaam. Thank you.
@@TheFoundationhiphop Wa Alaikum Salaam! Please Lord, it’s 🔥
Yes Pimp Talk like Iceberg Slim :-) Pimp Talk was cool at the Time more Urban and Slanglish
Curtis Mayfield had a strong influence on the hip hop culture Also,people forget about him
That superfly soundtrack is straight up"Rapping"...Yea he's a singer but Curtis was rapping on that soundtrack
Ain't I clean,
Bad machine
Super cool and super mean
Feeling good for the man
Superfly here I stand
Shhhhhh!!!!!!
Great Content
Thank you. Means everything
@@TheFoundationhiphop No Problem. I ran across your channel a few months ago while looking for some old school Grandmaster Flash mixtapes to check out. Glad I did!!
pieces of a man by gil scott heron, was done by krs-one in a nike basketball ad.
Hip hop don’t stop!
Great lesson brother JayQuan! You need to compile all of this in a book, and it should be presented in every music appreciation curriculum. Keep doing what you're doing brother. I appreciate all of this great content.#Salute
Of course they did. Rhythm and rhyme has always been in our blood and remember the way Africans were brought to America from all over West Africa. It truly was a melting pot of flavor here in America
Good stuff, Also remember Lightening Rod Hustler's Convention.
Definitely, I didn't call him by name, and I definitely could have placed him under the pimp/jive talk category with Hustlers Convention. He is there performing with the Last Poets
Very well put. Dope video. Everything is a modification of what existed before. Doesn't make it the same thing, though. As far as direct influence, the radio DJs DEFINITELY impacted MCing. Hence those voices rappers had early on and people taking on names like "Chief Rocka" (Frankie Crocker's original title). Also, DJ Hollywood initially would recite, word for word, Isaac Hayes' rhymes on "Good Love 69969"
Indeed!!!
But of coarse by the way black folks been rhyming and spittin spirits, news and knowledge over drums for centuries way before colonization even happened it was hidden in the DNA nothing new and no shock // the youth gotta get this knowledge tho !!! respect & 1
Distant drums vibratin
I hear that
Hey Jay look up Louis Jordan back in the 1940s amazing brother.
Lot of folks go into that stream of Black musical talk. Oscar Brown Jr, Eddie Jefferson, etc. Ice T identified early rap with hustlers toasts when he heard Hip Hop.
Frankie Crocker too
George Clinton used to use a lot of those DJ rhymes and toasts too, he used Jocko’s cadence on “Mr. Wiggles.”
Don't forget the early mobile sound systems of Kingston,Jamaica and cats like Count Machuki,King Stitt and Sir Lord Comic.The early pioneers of toasting(talking/rhyming over a breakbeat/dub plate).
I would definitely agree though that if a key distinction has to be made between hip hop rapping and proto-rap that it's primarily a question of the content of the rapping.
Great job as always,Jayquan.
Toasting was going on in America wait before Jamaica. Most black Americans would never expose to Jamaican reggae and had that experience through toast that passed through the prison systems and pool halls and playground of black America.
@@Number1DriversSeat
Uh?
Kool Herc is from Kingston,Jamaica.
Never been exposed?lol
But I agree that black American radio djs had influenced Jamaican toasters as well.(In fact this is one of the reasons toasters are called djs instead of emcees.)
The point is not to say that Jamaicans were making hip hop per se.But it behooves any serious historian of the culture to acknowledge the template of people rhyming/boasting over instrumental beats regardless of where it first happened on this planet.(Especially within the context of sound system culture.)
These people should be recognized as forefathers but not the de facto fathers.
Furthermore I see it as the tie that binds the African diaspora culturally.
@@kevinscott59 I can agree with most of this, barring a few statements.
One thing fasho, the Jamaican version of toasting is sooo dope and we're a lot alike. Our ancestors came from the west coast and central Africa and we made beautiful culture out here in the "Americas".
6:37 THIS PARTICULAR RHYME PATTERN WAS AROUND FOR A WHILE BEFORE THIS MOVIE AND ONE OF THE PRECURSORS OF SMOOVE DA HUSTLER BROKEN ENGLISH
This video is interesting and informative.
Thank you!!
@@TheFoundationhiphop You're welcome.
Excellent video and commentary, Jay, as usual. This is why it's important to understand context because it puts everything in perspective.
There are similarities, but I never fully accepted that these artists were actually "Hip Hop" -- even though, there was influence there.
For those of you who say that these people are Hip Hop, then how come you don't place them in your top rap groups or soloists of all time? I've yet to hear anyone say that Gil Scott Heron, Muhammad Ali, or Rudy Ray Moore is the "Greatest Emcee of all time," nor have I heard anyone say that The Last Poets are "the greatest rap group." And even when you read major publications, and they have their top 50 list, none of the aforementioned are included, which tells me they're not considered "Hip Hop."
Let's keep everything in context.
Certainly. Thank You. And if what these artists were doing was so similar to what rap became, then Don Cornelius, Black Radio, and our parents generation would likely have embraced it more than they did.
@@TheFoundationhiphop EXACTLY what I was thinking. Very good point.
Pigmeat here come the judge was a classic
I heard Big Daddy Kane use “I’m in the top two and my fathers getting old.”
Gratitude
sick intro)
World up! Jayquan the 1940s black radio djs " jive talking " on the airwaves , Dr. Nepcat Jack The Rapper Gibson Jocko Henderson Dizzy Lizzy and Daddy O give the voice of radio personality.
What was that Peter Jeter the womb beater movie? that was too awesome
5 On The Blackhand Side
@@TheFoundationhiphop the almost identical lyrics can be found in a 1969 book by H. Rap Brown as an example for playing the dozens.
i used to joke that bob dylan made some of the first rap songs since you couldn't really call what he did singing
I think Gary Byrd is the same guy on "Soul Brother VS Sold Brother"
The label says Al Grannum but if you listen you'd declare it's the same guy as in "Every Brother Ain't A Brother".
ruclips.net/video/nh_3jk3vCME/видео.html
Don't Forget Rudy Ray Moore.
I mentioned RRM at 4:28
This judge is HIP. 🎉🎉🎉🎉 and that aint ALL.
I always say rapp before hiphop for a while i was saying the hip hop is the culture of rap but then again hip hop is its own thing which rap is a huge part of . Which we can talk about rap in talking blues and even griots tales and kene poetry in parts of africa and many of the history that you ran down. The thing is - its more of a culture and specific music dedicated to this sprechstime( speech song) vs that just appearing over somethjng established like blues jazz and so on....
What’s the movie in the barbershop? Thx.
5 On The Blackhand Side
@@TheFoundationhiphop Thanks Jayquan.
I would say that the full context goes back to the 1800s and prior before records and recorded music when people had to entertain themselves with whatever they had. And one aspect of this was the vocal harmonizing with or without musical accompaniment. This led to the early Barbershop Quartets (black people); early male gospel quartets and the early harmonizer quartets or what we now call Doo Wop quartets. And within that even as far back as the 30s and 40s we know there was a rhyming element and a vocal instrument element. We see this in the Mills Brothers and the Jubilaires. We also see this in the cartoon "Snow Black and de Sebben Dwarfs". That tradition got carried forward by various black Disc Jockeys on the radio in the 50s and 60s and also various Comedians and spoken word artists in the same era. They even made fun of it in Blazing Saddles with them singing on the railroad, because back in the day, "gandy dancers" were groups of black men who worked on the railroad and they did rhythmic chants to a beat in order to synchronize moving heavy rails. That is also how it became associated with chain gangs and prison labor for similar types of hard manual labor. And of course the same tradition also is associated with "jody calls" or military cadence which some legends say comes from black people.