Richter perfectly captures the dark bleak minimalist character of the 1st mvt. The second mvt comes as a lyrical haven after the stern drama of the first. One of the great Schubert performances of the 20th Century.
Richter's choice of tempo in the final movement alongside his flawless execution of those dreadful octaves in the coda really is just a testament to his insane virtuosity. I am in awe..
I would also like to point out that Rachmaninoff made many alterations to his own scores and to those of other people when he performed. Is he bumming you out too? Which Rachmaninoff is the "true" one, the one on the page or the one on the recording? Who knows, maybe Schubert, like Rachmaninoff, wasn't so pedantic about his own scores. After all they were both Romantics, and as such, I doubt that they would want their music to be performed the same all the time.
sorabji1 Schubert puts those rest and other markings in there for two reason: 1- Real musician, So talent like Richter will play this Sonata with all they soul. 2- All those who think they are musician, so talented, like you, will lose the opportunity to listening and appreciated a perfect interpretation paying attention to every one rest, slur, staccato and other music mark. Come on man, stop speaking and play! as soon as you start to play I will change my sentence, it is better if you keep speaking man!
No it's not all in the score. It is such needlessly literalist attitude that is slowly killing interest in classical music. By your logic all great performances would be the same. Contrary to popular belief, slavishly obeying every blob of ink on the page is not an artistic virtue. I agree that the score should be respected and studied carefully. However, music is not just the score, it's what you do with it.
Come on, Richter, read the score... You're bumming me out, man. Schubert puts those rests and other markings in there for a reason, but you just go and smooth them out with the pedal. Play Schubert like Schubert, play Rachmaninoff like Rachmaninoff. It's all right there in the score... The beauty is in the details, dude!
sorabji1 Sorry, bumming you out? What does that even mean? If you need an interpretation to always follow the score you should avoid Richter like the plague. Of course, in doing so, you will miss out on some wonderful music making.
Play Schubert like Schubert? Composers like Schubert during the classical / early Romantic period improvise like crazy. Mozart and Chopin would play their piece a different way every single time. So if you want to hear how Schubert or a pianist of his time might have played the piece, start by not following the score.
I held Schubert manuscripts (wearing white gloves) at the National Biblioteque during a time when I was studying music in Vienna. Impossible to tell between accents and diminuendos, as well as many other markings! None of these composers as hard up about every little detail as know it all critics of today think, in fact many of those "details" are from editors/publishers and not at all written by the composers - fact! Schubert, who was used to playing on very poor instruments, even shitty uprights, would have fallen off his chair upon hearing the way Richter, Gilels and others play/express the music in this sonata. There are no absolutes in music interpretation. Listen to Rachmaninoff interpret his own music!!!! Cheers.
@@skisunfb Thank you, Frederic, for your enlightening words. It must have been a thrill to hold a Schubert manuscript in your hands! I have come to Schubert (in a serious way) late in life, at age 74. I have been listening to one of his compositions every morning (when the world is still) and every evening in the dark before bedtime. He speaks to me (even though he died at age 31) and I speak to him: "Thank you."
Thank you for providing this wonderful music from Schubert.
Richter perfectly captures the dark bleak minimalist character of the 1st mvt. The second mvt comes as a lyrical haven after the stern drama of the first. One of the great Schubert performances of the 20th Century.
Richter's choice of tempo in the final movement alongside his flawless execution of those dreadful octaves in the coda really is just a testament to his insane virtuosity. I am in awe..
The beginning is astonishing.. the remaining proceeds as the beginning!
That contrapuntal third movement always gets to me!
Thanks for uploading!
If only I could play this second movement the way Richter does!
He is my preferred pianist--deferring to Gould; as close to idol worship as I'll get, I give the palm to Segovia in my lifetime.
I 00:00
II 14:10
III 19:40
Richter nos hace experimentar una vía sacramental. Él mismo siente surgir ante sí el prodigio a la par que sus dedos lo alcanzan: ¿Qué reclamas?
Sonata No 12 in A minor (1823,D 784).
I would also like to point out that Rachmaninoff made many alterations to his own scores and to those of other people when he performed. Is he bumming you out too? Which Rachmaninoff is the "true" one, the one on the page or the one on the recording? Who knows, maybe Schubert, like Rachmaninoff, wasn't so pedantic about his own scores. After all they were both Romantics, and as such, I doubt that they would want their music to be performed the same all the time.
were it not for these/this recording this great Sonate may be lost
Richter recorded it a few times.
sorabji1 Schubert puts those rest and other markings in there for two reason: 1- Real musician, So talent like Richter will play this Sonata with all they soul. 2- All those who think they are musician, so talented, like you, will lose the opportunity to listening and appreciated a perfect interpretation paying attention to every one rest, slur, staccato and other music mark.
Come on man, stop speaking and play! as soon as you start to play I will change my sentence, it is better if you keep speaking man!
No it's not all in the score. It is such needlessly literalist attitude that is slowly killing interest in classical music. By your logic all great performances would be the same. Contrary to popular belief, slavishly obeying every blob of ink on the page is not an artistic virtue. I agree that the score should be respected and studied carefully. However, music is not just the score, it's what you do with it.
Come on, Richter, read the score... You're bumming me out, man. Schubert puts those rests and other markings in there for a reason, but you just go and smooth them out with the pedal. Play Schubert like Schubert, play Rachmaninoff like Rachmaninoff. It's all right there in the score... The beauty is in the details, dude!
sorabji1 Sorry, bumming you out? What does that even mean? If you need an interpretation to always follow the score you should avoid Richter like the plague. Of course, in doing so, you will miss out on some wonderful music making.
Play Schubert like Schubert? Composers like Schubert during the classical / early Romantic period improvise like crazy. Mozart and Chopin would play their piece a different way every single time. So if you want to hear how Schubert or a pianist of his time might have played the piece, start by not following the score.
I held Schubert manuscripts (wearing white gloves) at the National Biblioteque during a time when I was studying music in Vienna. Impossible to tell between accents and diminuendos, as well as many other markings! None of these composers as hard up about every little detail as know it all critics of today think, in fact many of those "details" are from editors/publishers and not at all written by the composers - fact! Schubert, who was used to playing on very poor instruments, even shitty uprights, would have fallen off his chair upon hearing the way Richter, Gilels and others play/express the music in this sonata. There are no absolutes in music interpretation. Listen to Rachmaninoff interpret his own music!!!! Cheers.
@@skisunfb
Thank you, Frederic, for your enlightening words. It must have been a thrill to hold a Schubert manuscript in your hands! I have come to Schubert (in a serious way) late in life, at age 74. I have been listening to one of his compositions every morning (when the world is still) and every evening in the dark before bedtime. He speaks to me (even though he died at age 31) and I speak to him: "Thank you."
@@jamesnickoloff6692 Thank you for your kind words! It's nice to hear that you're also passionate about Schubert's music!
Cheers, F