8 DUAL CAB UTES DYNO TESTED - Surprising results! Biggest gains & how we got them!
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- If you've got a modern dual cab ute and reckon it could do with a bit more power, watch this! Shauno's gone down to visit Rob at Ultimate Diesel Tuning to put 8 new dual cabs through their paces! See what gains we got, and the surprising results!
hilux vs ranger vs d-max vs triton vs 79 series vs amarok vs colorado vs bt-50
ultimatediesel...
I added over 800 horsepower to my Suzuki Jimny with just 4 simple mods. A tune, intake, 6.2 liter Hellcat Redeye engine swap, and exhaust.
Snorkel?
Simples.
Simple mods anyone can do in their backyard
Please say this is real!
Budget build?
This is exactly what needed to be posted fellas. Well DONE!!! Love it.
Best budget power mod - Is an EVC Throttle Controller in my opinion, then obviously a dyno Tune.
Throttle controllers do nothing for power they only control the throttle making the throttle more or less sensitive depending on the setting you put it on. Making it feel more sensitive because its taking some of the lag out of the throttle
@@Callum0717 Haha!! Ok, might not be a power mod. But still an awesome MOD. Best bang for buck. Or you can spend a few thousand for an exhaust and dyno tune upgrade like I did.
I wish I installed the throttle controller first, before I spent all that money.
@@jaredtansley3236 a throttle controller & a custom dyno tune are like chalk & cheese. One gives you much more power & torque, the other one doesn't. Throttle controllers can be useful for slow 4x4 work though.
@@UltimateDieselTuning Yes I totally agree with you, and you have the money, definitely a dyno tune. For a cheap quick 2min mod, Throttle Controller. Or do both, like me and thousands of others, Dyno Tune and a throttle controller, complement eachother very well.
@@jaredtansley3236 if you have had a great tune you should have got at least a 40% gain in downlow torque, depending on which vehicle you have. So you won't need a throttle controller for "more" take off.
I always wonder about the long term reliability of these modern small diesels, with all the boost they jam into them I get the feeling you probably won’t see these on the road in 20+ years time like you do with the older less stressed diesels.
They tune them in the limits of the vehicle as they do a pre tune inspection and do a lot of research before they Dino them
@@kaylumcollins1066 Im talking more about just from the factory let alone aftermarket tuning.
in isuzu i trust..
Well why don't we all just sit around in scepticism for 20 years and find out 🤷
I doubt you’ll need to wait 20 years, more like 10 at best..
More interested in the power/weight ratio between the 79 and the Triton.
P2W of Triton is excellent, so good it blows the paint off
Yep that’s why im gonna buy the new dmax! Gains and reliability
Take any old 4x4 and. Put new spark plugs , wires and so on, new air filter , inflate you tires properly , take out all the trash . Then retest the same vehicle and show how big a difference that makes both in 1/8th mile races and HP/tq gains
Why us there never navs with these tests love the pages but would love to see some navs
Why are there no nissan results? Regardless if they may have stitched you guys where here to see what our cars can make ? Not angry just disappointed.
Id suggest nissan cracked the shits with them after the dual cab shoot out videos. And has said no more to allowing the vehicles to be reviewed or tested. Could be wrong but thats generally how car manufactuers work lol.
@@krump743 if they wanted a navara they could get one no worries. They just don't want to promote a navara cos they have had a falling out. A true 4x4 company would represent and just show and state facts.
@@T1000.Android hahahahahahahahahahaha If Nissan were ok with it then they would let them. I'd imagine they have been threatened with a law suit if they use Nissan.
@@T1000.Android factz
Yea but if they did crack the shi$s with them and threaten them with a lawsuits it would be nice for them to notify us saying that they can't show Nissan's or just say something just a shame we can see all the cars and how they perform except Nissan and in the last episode they had a nav on there. It's just a shame that's all wish we could see the stats on all cars maybe even do the sneaky and use the x class 250D haha
The nav don’t need tuning that why they don’t show lol 😂 😂😂
maybe but it would be nice to see if people talk about them as well as the are a 4wd .seemd like people do forget about the nissans
The Navara is sound. Nissan and 24/7 action have had some falling outs so I wouldn't expect much at the moment.
@@T1000.Android nothing to do with politics, we just couldn't feature every single ute, hence why we just chose a few.
@@UltimateDieselTuning Yo have Tuned many Navara's and could of shown the Nissan boys typical results
@@T1000.Android all on ourr website & our RUclips channel mate so check it out
What is the cost for a tune and can they tune my 4L v6 hilux.
You guys show amaroks and collys but no navaras?
Should chuck the 40 on the dyno
Amarok smashes them all
What about all the dusted 200s that Toyota definitely didn’t deal with
This title should have been called how to break your diesel before 100k
Man I love your channel
Ok, taking my 3.2 Everest to get tuned :)
I wanna put my 2h 60 on a Dyno for shits and giggles 🤣
I’ll come with you and bring my stock 1hz along to see what mine gets 😂
@@d2kwazza57 together me might make 50kw 😂
Hell yea sounds good to me 😂💪💪
@@billhunter1388 50hp if you're lucky :) Make sure to do a CEM engine flush first, then you'll get 52hp hehe.
Just wondering if you void the warranty on a Ford ranger if you get it dyno tuned
Ask the dealer, you already know the answer 😝
No you don't Mahmoud.
Just wish warranty would cover tunes on new vehicles. That’s the only thing holding alot of people back. (Myself included)
Warranty is fine - they cannot void it due to a custom dyno tune having been carried out. Most of the vehicles that we tune here are all under warranty with no issues.
who is a reputable tuner i can trust my diesel jeep grand cherokee 4wd with in Sydney ??
I’m keen to know what clutch upgrade is recommended for the RG Colorado before we go down the tuning path. Clutch is nearing the end of its life, so we be good to know what we should replace it with. Nice Ep 👍🏼
NPC one mate.
My issue is not 'can you trust the dyno' ...but 'can you trust the driveline in 50k km's?'
Yes you sure can.
Can you do a tune review of a Pajero NW?
There is a video of an NW on our RUclips channel that you can watch.
Yous didn’t do the gwm cannon😔
I wish you guys would put conversions for horsepower and pound feet of torque for the civilized world.
If you are talking about Merica, does not look too civilised from here. I can't remember when anyone in Straya attempted a coup.
What about tuning older diesel utes like early 2000s ?
Pump the boost in and wind the fuel pump up and send it
I have an my auto triton. Can I expect the same gain and what does it cost. I tow a 2t hybrid
20% gains mate. $2000
Yes you can - we see around a 30-35% increase in power & torque with the MQ or MR Tritons. Prices do vary, but budget around the $1500 mark for a full custom dyno tune that has been done properly - taking into consideration the age of your engine, the k's on your engine, what you use your vehicle for & what your goals are with the tune.
@@T1000.Android bit too less & bit too much there Tyson.
Shaun looked a little upset when Rob said that the triton is a good reliable ute 🤣🤣
Still a seriously underrated Ute.
legit '' oh yeah right'' little voice lvl change hahahaha
Alot of people are upset about it lol. Especially when they cost half the price of the other utes Hahahahhaha
It’s the Ute everyone wants to hate
@@MrFlop10 triton is a little unit. Performs excellent for the price
That is the very main reason why Toyota's and Isuzu's are highly reliable, the manufacturers set the tuning at conservative parameters.
which means once you start tuning it things will fail prematurely. probably won't pass emissions too
@@wyc4934 emissions 😆
@@wyc4934 complete opposite. They tune for efficiency. Burn less fule or better ignition timing to bun all the fule.
All the little parameters they can change now makes for lower fuel consumption and more power.
@@dragonaus8945 you know air doesnt give it more power, yes it makes it efficient but why would you get more power at a 20/1 fuel ratio as aposed to 22/1?
And we improve on their tunes by still "tuning" within the safety parameters that their engineers set for each engine.
Hahaha shauno trying to shit on the Amarok, and getting nil support from tuner. Love it.
Haha exactly 100 bucks says it Toyota were to literally rebadge an amarok as a Toyota he's gush over it 24-7
@@nuggetBrahhwhen did you try to diss it? It’s a Volkswagen, anyone would question its reliability
Would really recommend getting an intercooler upgrade for safer temps when getting your rig tuned. Went down that route myself on the old Amarok and currently run 191kws at the wheels with 33s. After all, it's all about getting down to the mall as fast as possible right?
Gotta get those bargains at anaconda and bcf haha
EGT monitoring and a good catch can too
Correct. And that is why we mention exactly that in this video. Also - don't look at 191kws as that doesn't mean much at all without the before tune figure. Cheers!
@@UltimateDieselTuning totally agree, no Dyno is the same! About a 30% gain for me (146kws into 191kws). Lots of torque down low in the rev range and work carried out from a very reputable master tuner here in SEQ 🙌
Easily one of the best mods I've had the pleasure of spending money on!
191kw at the wheels? With what Motor in the Amarok And what mods?
Shaun also looked a little surprised when he was told the Amarok V6 is a very good reliable platform. 🤣.
He didn’t sound too impressed!
even when they do side by side out bush they often didn't show how good the Amarok's are at climbing hills and how advanced the anti slip works even with wheels up in the air..
you really only need the rear diff locked if you're in soft mud and can't afford any wheel slip digging into the ground..
Yes they dont have LOW range or a locking centre diff with the auto but will go 99% of the distance but in some cases excel because the drive-train while turning isnt binding and digging itself into the mud or sand.
Thinking of a John Cadogan video where he talks about dyno tunes and the overland and off road scene.
Seek therapy immediately.
Feeling pretty happy with the MR Triton purchase, much cheaper. Love the 79 series; just can't afford one.
For the price of a 79 you can buy an MR, and another MR to keep in storage.
@@adamsimpson2041 yep. I drive an old 75 series for work; I love the old girl. But I can't justify the price of a 79.
79 are terrible value 4 money and need a lot of money spent on them
Give it a lift twin lock it and you can pretty much do most 4wding on par or if not better than a 79 series and still save money. The 79 series is a good 4WD but overrated and overpriced IMO.
@@eliteremovalistsbrisbane1066 That was my thought too. As great as the 79 is I just can't justify the price. You can get just as much if not more out of the others for far cheaper and that is just a 79 without the trimmings like the tray!!!
Go the DMAX! :D Would have been great to see the new 4JJ3 up there
There is a bit at the end for the 4JJ3 D-Maxes mate. We can now custom dyno tune those & have been able to for a while now with really good gains - again around the 30% plus mark. They are such a good engine!
@@UltimateDieselTuning yep saw that, you guys sounded like you were pretty keen on them :) Anything else you find with them of note? Helps smooth out that torque curve a bit down low?
@@VideoShowMeHow just generally great gains in power & torque again over factory, across all rev-ranges. They are already pretty good out of the box, but we step up that driving experience even more. They run quieter than the 4JJ1s too.
@@UltimateDieselTuning cheers for the response. Yeah loving mine so far and enjoying the build up series on my little channel. Cheers guys 👍
@@UltimateDieselTuning what about clutch on the new BT50 and Isuzu....will the standard clutch hold up to higher torque?
This answer will decide my next rig...I want manual but will go auto if I have to upgrade
Jocko ! Where’s my Power! 🤣
I know when my husband bought a few Powerstrokes several years ago for company trucks for the guys and he put tunes on them. When he had some issues and took them to the Ford dealer he took the tunes off concerned about them giving some grief about warranty. The issue was… he could take the tune off but the dealer saw the other upgrades ( A pillar gauge cluster and hole drilled in the exhaust manifold to measure EGT’s) that led them to believe the motor had been performance tuned. He had to fight Ford pretty hard to get them to cover the issues under warranty. This was back in 2005 when the Super Duty Powerstrokes where having tons of issues with their injectors. He got them to cover the issue but it took some work and even had to involve a specific warranty attorney.
That's typical Ford. Even when they build total sh!t things, like their DCT, they just deny it because it's impossible to fix.
And now time has told that the powerstroke engines had consistent injector issues completely unrelated to tunes and entirely consistent with poor engineering. Unfortunately just OEMs trying to cover their arse with what they perceive as the law to save their bank balances.
Hey fella's what about the navara. Or didn't nissan want to play the game again this time 😆
They probably didn't want to😆
Amarok won that one hands down
Love how Shaun and his fellow Toyota lovers where so bent , they had to IMMEDIATELY compare the v8 shitbox to the little 2.4 Triton, tuned to comfort their little ego 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. That could not have been a better confirmation of how tiny cruiser owners really are.....
Haha! Can’t afford a Cruiser mate??😂😂
@@craigdavid6668 they are such a over price farm ute that still need so many more things fixed with dallars , cruiser owners obviously like getting bent over with no lube !
@@craigdavid6668 can afford one, but they're not worth the asking price.
@@craigdavid6668 how is your garden shed without a matching wheel track, dusted motor and no power windows or aircon? "cant afford one" hahahaha
@@nicholassiddans6080 Keep saving mate, you’ll get there👍
When are we going to see a Triton again on a 4wd247 trip? Those MRs (and MQs) are beasts off-road!
Exactly! I don't know if they have something against tritons. I've only ever see one Mitsubishi on their channel ever
They're nissan and toyota fanboys so what do you expect.
@@anthonyramdin1037 I think its more Mitsubishi's doing that 4WD 24-7. If I recall correctly they got upset the ute was returned with a few scratches in the paint after one of the showdowns, I think this was more of Mitsubishi's way of expressing they weren't happy that the ute didn't perform better on the tests (Or appear to perform better).
@@Regular_Thomas I think that was Nissan that had a cry about the Navara getting a shit review and some scratches
@@Regular_Thomas that was the Nissan Navar. The triton came first in that test.
The best and cheapest power mod I have done is turn the air con off going up hill. Instant gains....
🤣🤣
Now that's what you call a budget power gain!! 🤣
I wish more brands would do 6cyl diesels. They're just so much nicer especially when loaded up.
I'm not a fan of any of the sub 2.5L engines.
V6 GR hilux a few years away.
Totally agree, I had the first gen ranger then Hilux, both were warranty pigs and drove like shit, I currently own a dark label tuned V6 Amarok and it’s hands down the best dual cab Ute I’ve ever driven, shame it’s now tuning into ford junk😔
Sounds great with instant benefits, but my concern is the long time effects on the engine. They never mention that
Next owners problem
@@Huda88754 lol
No effects on the engine with our tuning - we always tune within the engine's safety parameters, which are set by the manufacturer. And we will never tune any engine for max power/torque - all of our customer's vehicles are tuned to suit their engine, the age of it, what the vehicle is being used for & what their goals are with the tune.
@@UltimateDieselTuning thanks, but that didn't answer my question. What effect does tuning have on a car's engine over a long period?
@@UltimateDieselTuning how much boost does the dmax 4jj3 run from factory and what's it run after a tune?
Now do a video on the official response from each manufacturer regarding the warranty coverage (or lack thereof) on any engine or drive-train issues after a tune...
I'd watch that 😆
The drive train is always overlooked. I had a conversation with a car guy from a leading seller of dual cab Ute's in Australia, and he claims the lag down low is to protect the drive train from the quick snap of torque, especially while at lost speeds.
In my opinion if you tune your 4x4 dual cab deisel to be a race car it will break something, somewhere. If you drive in moderation you will be fine.
@@T1000.Android even if driven in moderation the manufacturer will rightly say "Not my problem" since the vehicle has been modified from factory specifications.
@@evanmurphy2165 if something fails, which is likely on a new vehicle anyway I suppose.
@@T1000.Android lets be honest tho, No-one is getting a tune for more power just to idle around and look cool
Love this channel so much, these types of videos scattered in-between the normal adventures are super helpful!
Next up, how to replace a cracked piston
“Toyota, when they know they have a problem, they get onto it”.
DPF class action wants a word with you
Lol my first thought when it come out of his mouth hahah!! That should have been left on the editing room floor 😅
That’s fixed, like 2 years ago
@@orangejuicepony6881 suspect you'll find it hasn't... putting a button on the dash, does not fix the problem
Instead of the DPF why don't they just go to the adblu option, unless there's an issue in doing that I'm not aware of??
Took em 7 yrs to fix the handbrake on the n70 models
The problem is the warranty on the cars, if you put a tune on it and the drivetrain goes bang who will cough up for the repairs?
The manufacturer will go nope you have messed with the power output and the dyno tuner will go nope not our problem.
You are then stuck with a very expensive repair cost that no one is willing to help you with
Buyer beware!!
That so ture. New cars can't do much till it at warranty. Less people don't care about money. A turnner don't take no responsibility and dealer say u loss warranty as u got it turned. . Then u out money try to fix it .
@@shaunwallis1501 the same applies to GVM upgrades. Not even Australian consumer guarantee laws will protect you after the warranty period is over.
We have tuned over 15,000 cars with zero issues with drivetrains that we know of.
Interesting about the PX III being laggy down low. Straight engines are renowned for being peaky down low, but good to see that it can be 'tuned out'.
Budget power mod, fit smaller tyres!
A great informative vid! But it would have been greater if you included the details of where on the rev range those vehicles made their max power and torque.
You can see this in all the dyno graphs that are featured in this video. The bottom axis's of each graph are RPM.
Amarok crushed the competition, even Shaun's 'BIG V8 CRUZA' 😂😂
Too bad they are shit everywhere else but the road.
@@PencilProper they'll go anywhere 99% of the people who watch this channel will go and just as well as any of the other Ute's here.
And the people who are going past where the amarok limits sit aren't buying new Ute's for 4wding 🤡
Yep the age old rule never changes: Cylinders are your friend. I know this doesn't hold true to the 79 cause Toyota just doesn't do that motor justice
Why in Australia they are under power?? In south america the amarok v6 have 224 hp standar the Hilux 200 hp the Ranger 200
No nav, Im outa here..
Almost sounds like 4wd24toyota. Disappointing
Pritty petty that the major 4wd show of aus won’t show any new Nissans because of childish reasons
It's not the show that won't do it Nissan wont give them a car to use
Nissan is being childish refusing to let them use their cars because they didn't give the Nav a glowing review. It's great that they don't have the Nav now. Shows which companies are happy to back their products against a review that wasn't pre-determined. Very much sick of all these car magazine mobs "reviewing" cars and giving them all gold stars to keep the manufacturers happy. It completely destroys the point of a review. If a manufacturer doesn't want to give a product to a reviewer who wont agree to only be positive, then the manufacturer knows they have made a sub par product.
Hate to be "That Guy" but leaves me wondering:
On the surface this looks excellent.
But if it's so good, why don't the manufacturers do it from the factory?
Having a huge power gain over their competition would be a massive marketing advantage.
It leads me to think that there has to be a tradeoff. You don't get something for nothing.
The car makers spend billions developing these vehicles and if they could get another 30% power and torque with no downside they'd jump at it.
Putting more power thru the drivetrain one would expect things to break more often.
Reliability might take a hit.
Maybe the power sits where it does because the makers have bad;anced out the power vs reliability/longevity equation.
And if you tune a new car and something breaks, the dealer can see it's been modded and that gives him carte blanche to say sayonara to your warrantee.
These tunes might be good for a vehicle that's out of warrantee though.
My thought would be they are de-tuned for emissions reasons
Yeah purely for emissions
Climate change crap and politics
@@adammaitland8345
Interesting.
Any more details or where I could look that up?
Would it not be shonky if a private person bypassed the regs then by getting it tuned?
Sorta like taking a DPF off which I know they get pretty upset about.
@@garysheppard4028 I'd say this goes with many things, not just cars. but basically I guess the deal is the manufacturer has to meet certain requirements and standards in order to be able to sell a product to certain markets (eg Australia or Europe might be a lot more strict unlike the USA. Hence why they get loads of different vehicles. ) What the purchaser of that product or vehicle then does is completely up to them since its now their own private property. If I remember correctly, I read a few months ago that Audi and Mercedes (possibly VW too) have stated they will no longer be continuing to develop any new petrol or diesel powered cars by the end of the decade. All to do with emissions standards becoming more and more of a challenge to meet. So electric is becoming their main focus.
Loved the little Jocko pop up,
Where’s my power 😂😂
Once a vehicle is tuned does it remain tuned forever or does it eventually change?
Not sure you’d call a ranger 3.2 reliable
A wreckers i know can’t keep up with demand from blown engines
Ford has no quality control.
Not to mention the gearboxes to.
Facts
Ford seems to make transmissions that are either amazing, or utter crap. Nothing in between with these guys.
@@adamsimpson2041 the zf ones are great. Maybe they have kept using them
Would have been nice if UDP slipped in a little % discount for October tunes for 4WD24/7 viewers. But yea - best budget power mod is always going to be a tune.
I like Toyota’s. However 79 seems a vehicle you can make perfect with only making it steer straight, putting a new clutch in it and tuning. Not ideal
79's - buy for $80,000, spend another $80,000+ to turn it into something half decent.
@@einfelder8262 very decent but you would expect that from $160k
Did a tune on my old Triton 2.5 LP anf it changed the vehicle completely as the torque/turbo came in at 1200rpm, actually drove better then my current 2.5 HP motor. Will be doing software next year and its going to be amazing.
Good info that this video should have supplied. What useable power they have without revving too much.
After A Dyno Tune I Would Think Your Engine Would Last Longer & Get Better MPG, & LESS WARE ON THE WHOLE Drive Train ,is That True,
So What Should A Person Ask About When Finding The Best Place To Have A Dyno Done , & Should You Do it To A Older Vehicle ,& Thanks That Was Great info, , I Knew Nothing About That Before Watching 4 WD 24 / 7
Yes pretty much mate. We improve on the manufactuer's tune. There are quite a few things that you should ask tuners - 1. Do they tune every vehicle separately? 2. Do they have a dyno? 3. They should also ask you what you use your car for & ask you what your goals are with the tune. There are lots of places out there that will just simply load a tune file into your ECU & call that a "tune", which is not the case, so be careful. Depending on which area you are from - we have several agents around Australia so we could help you out there.
My question is why u guys keep avoiding Navaras when u gonna test one of the new ones !? Or at least D23 on tune lot of people would love to se more about Navs 💪
I don't think they are avoiding testing Navaras I reckon it's Nissan Australia not providing them with a vehicle to test like when they did the 2021 ute of the year Nissan declined to send out a vehicle.
I don't know you see a lot of modern 4 cylinder diesel engines with cracked pistons
Not sure how you can call a 3.2l Ranger reliable and a 2.0l unreliable? I've seen more dead 3.2s than zd30s. Never seen any issues with the 2.0s
100%
They didnt say its not unreliable they just said the 2 litre motor is to highly strung to be on a vehicle for 4wding and that will last.
@@krump743 Watch again from the 13 minute mark.
I agree. Just standing in line I heard old mate complaining his 3.2 ranger just blew up at 70,000km lol
Have a good look on the road today.
What are the 3 main older dual cabs Ute's? It's not rangers! It's Hilux, triton and Navara with an honourable mention of rodeo/Isuzu combo.
Ford have very good marketing.
I love aussies but man, they only speak hillbilly. Still more understandable than scottish accent tho.
The Dmax is just impressive. That motor is not highly strung and just feels so powerful.
Go the DMAX! :D
Poor man’s Hilux
@@bentoka3453 ha 😁 how you figure? Better equipped, better engine, more safety? 🍿
Exactly...to me the hilux doesn't even compare
What about Mahindra pick up in Australia, can it pull in Cape York?
The 6spd manual v6 amarok does have low range. Strange that Volkswagen would design their pickups like that. Great video but hoped to see the newer 1GD, 4JJ3 and 2.0 biturbo instead of the weaker predecessors.
They dont have the skill to crack the 2L biturbo ecu so cant tune it.
Can you guys at 4wd-24/7 do a test on the manual amarok v6?
I am a little tired of of hearing the Amarok has no low range, yet mine does...
That's because Amaroks are shit
@@hardlydavidson1937 in what way?
@@JamesG89 pfft Hardly Davidson is a toss pot.
Hi Andre, I'm looking at a manual amarok myself. Are they good off road?
@@JamesG89 main thing I’ve seen is the lack of airbags for the rear seats. Also from memory their alternator is in the bottom of the engine bay meaning mud/water will do more damage to it over time if that’s your thint
Would love the results on the 2021 Auto Hi Lux 150kw 500 nm
You can now get an Amarok in Australia with a stick shift and low range. Would be sweet to see you test one of those.
I think it would also need a clutch uprade.
The auto Amarok V6 with the ZF8HP stock is 550/580Nm.
The manual Amarok with 6sp manual is detuned to 500Nm.
If a tuned motor goes bang! who is there to pick up the pieces? Certainly not the manufacturer. They will run for the hills. And I doubt the tuner will be there either. He'll refer you to the fine print. If you want more power get a car with more power standard. Utes were never meant to be Ferraris. BTW: Now you have more power but same brakes and suspension which on just about every ute ever sold are garbage (Especially that dreadful 79 series bucket). Nice safe combo that. These cars are tuned the way they are for five reasons the manufacturer has to balance carefully that a tuner does not. 1. Reliability. 2. Economy. 3. Emissions. 4. Noise. 5. Power. Push one of those envelopes and you're playing fire with the others. Not a fan
Then stick with your boring standard vehicle
@@jimmyoakeslift4374 My 'boring' standard vehicle has 650nm of torque and 225kw of power and will crunch your twat-booster into the ground.
Check out the pinned comment with regards to warranty.
Good to see you finally dropped that piss weak 2.0L Ranger and replaced it with the 3.2L
No Navara’s. Heart broken :(
Not wrong mate 🙄
Nissan probably won’t lend them a Navara after they botched the first dual cab review. I’m glad they don’t show Navara.
@@t_squirrel4x478 most of those cars seem to be customers or workers cars judging by the modifications so they could have made it happen but ah well 🤷🏼♂️
@@smoothasbrothers yeah I’m sure they could have had a np300, but they didn’t for a reason and it’s not just because they couldn’t find one or they not as popular, np300 sales are definitely in the top 8 for dual cabs, only they know the reason why.
@@t_squirrel4x478 yep must be a reason
The elephant 🐘 in the room you are ignoring is that reliability will suffer! You have to admit it and be willing to live with it
Acting like there are no CONS are BS
It won't effect reliability manufacturers tune them like that to meet emission laws
@@Bigsoot7393 that's what the tuners tell you - but when your engine melts or cracks a piston you can ganrantee you won't have a leg to stand on when it comes to manufacterer's warranty.
@@firthy999 then your tuner should find the cause of the failure. Generally speaking, it is not the tune - usually an injector failing.
I'd love to see a before and after EGT figures, of any of their "tuned" engines. Manufacturers spend millions of dollars and thousands of man hours on R&D to ensure the vehicle can not only perform as advertised but for it to be reliable whilst doing it. EGTS, emisdions, noise, atmospheric temps, altitude, humidity etc all play into a tune and manufacturers leave a inbuilt safety margin so to speak in order to ensure reliable operation no matter what the circumstances.
I like these videos, I think they're cool, but I would suggest people do their homework prior to tuning a new vehicle. No matter what they say, your warranty dies the moment your standard engine tune is modified, food for thought. If they say otherwise get them to put in writing that they'll replace your manufacturers engine warranty with their own and replace it no matter what if it dies within that warranty period, I think you'll quickly find excuses flying at you left and right
I know someone who works for a law firm that specialises in new vehicle warranties, and having asked them about this previously, I think you'll find what you just said is complete bullshit.
Manufacturers tune there engines to emissions and sound laws not reliability
@@tcmx712 does that mean once you tuned, you break the emission and sound laws?
@@9up9up9up yes
Get an egt gauge then, you'll find they dont go that high
Why no NP300? Nissan not coming to the party ?
They said they were the worst Ute in one test so haven't given them one since I assume
Thanks Shaun just what I'm looking at for my rc colarado. Very topical for me at the moment. Great around rap
Blardy oathhhhhh, beer, a feed, and 4wd 24/7😎
This video is just click bait! 4wd24/7 you let us all down with this vid.
Wow.. well here I was thinking a lot of these manufacturers' quoted power figures were at the wheels..
So.. seeing as I can safely tune my td42 GU to around 140kw and 600nm and that's at the wheels and tuned very conservatively.. I don't think I'm going to sell as I had planned then..
Same mate, I'm at 155kW and 564Nm at the wheels on 33s with my TD42 at 295k kms KEEP HER!
@@danielwhite3898 very nice man, what set up are you running?
My boss bought 2 new V6 amaroks from the same dealer 6 months apart. Came with the same rims and bells and whistles, but different tyres. The weight difference in the tyres could theoretically affect power/torque at the wheels. Figures at the flywheel are just more consistent
@@jakesdejager902 thats true, but very minimal difference, the object of the exercise is before and after numbers.
Mate's Triton he bought second hand only had 40 thou kms on it some fully sick tune and exhaust and only a few months after he bought it boom turbo exploded and stranded on the side of a highway in the middle of NSW. $6500 later which should of been 10k but the Mitsu dealer discounted labour and another two turbos blown and intercooler destroyed I would say hard pass on these so called safe tunes.
No Navara again. So who decided what's the most popular? From my understanding navs are super popular. Not bitching just asking mates.
I think Nissan stitched them up in the last modern vehicles comparison from memory. So maybe they aren’t showcasing them as much
Thought the same Randell was interested myself as I have a 2019 nav
Popular with Bunnings offroaders
nav is popular because it sounds fully sick. thats all
Sales figures would be the general guide
The Amarok has smashed. Even when everything else was dyno’d in RWD 🤣
Awd and is a 3.0L engine too 😂
But the others have low range.The Amarok is a German suv with a tray. Good for towing caravans and that's about it
And so why is the d max only now getting rear diff lock something that's no problem?? Is amaroks do have low range. (Sorry it's more a criticism of these guys just giving amarok r&d a chance. Vw and now ford is genuinely making remodelling the whole thing to be better off road and they coulda really helped that along)
@@ensen001 the low ratios of 1 and 2 gear in the ararok vitually make low range obsolete.
@@ensen001 they’ve got low range mate
Wouldn’t this void your warranty?
You forgot to say the 79 will do a clutch before it leaves the carpark
Colin, you talking rubbish. My 79 2018 has done already 60000km towing 3t trailer with factory clutch, it's how you drive. I do admit the clutch slipped in the beginning but it's not too bad now. That means your statement is baseless. I have already new heavy duty clutch ready to swap but I will wait till this one goes.
He did say in the video that the 79 would need a clutch...
@@radod6147 if I buy a $90,000 dollar Ute that’s meant to be super tough I expect to be able to flog it
@@atoms4sail yeah commented to soon haha
@@Bigsoot7393 I understand your point, when I was buying it, I was prepared for it.
As long as there is enough people like me buying it, Toyota will be selling it. Look inside the cabin or look at the rear axle. Shocking. You must love it before you buy it, otherwise you will be very disappointed.
Mitsubishi Triton king of highway
Good luck with a warranty claim after you do a tune
Warranty is not affected.
@@UltimateDieselTuning have just checked this by ringing three Toyota dealers and all three said they would not warranty any problems caused by a retune of the engine so someone somewhere is not telling the truth
@@Sthilboy56 they have to prove that the remap caused the issue. If they can, then the tuner steps up with his own warranty.
Navara gains please, both the previous 2.5 turbo and the current 2.3 biturbo
All the new dual cabs are sweet! Value for money is still, The MIGHTY, MITSUBISHI TRITON.
Depends on where you find value. Cause it sure as shit ain’t in the resale.
@@wizzylizzy69 This is true, although paying a higher premium out of the box for example $58k - $60k for a sr5 hilux selling the car 10 years later for $25k - $30k compared to a good spec triton at $45k to $50k selling after 10 years for around $15k.
The value is marginal really.
@@T1000.Android dude 10 year old Hilux still go for 40 plus lol
@@wizzylizzy69the average is closer to what I stated. Don't let Covaids ruin the perception.
the face when he had to say that a triton is relaible xD
My barra patrol would eat all these rigs
which dealer can you buy a new barra patrol from? No crack dealers don't count.
@@148Reaper triggered.
@@Rexy888 Haha na, i love the barras but trying to compare it when you cant just walk in and buy a new one somewhere is just silly. Or if you think its not you could just get a brand new jeep gladiator and have AMW do their 1000hp Hemi Hellephant conversion on it, not really apples for apples now is it?
What would happen with the custom tune if your battery died or had to be disconnected for a long period of time would the tune still be there or would the ecm rest it self
Nothing - your tune will still be there.
ISUZU 4JJ series is king
Still no Navara is Nissan still having a cry from the first comparison video 😂
The 79 series had larger 33” tyres. I note other vehicles had factory small diameter road tyres.
If the 79 also had the factory small diameter road tyres to match the other ones, how would this affect the dyno power?
Yes, The Dyno would read higher results but unsure on how much. The worm will climb higher faster too the peak curve too.
@@T1000.Android I understood the larger tyres reduce the power not make it read higher. Larger diameter tyres reduce the torque as it changes the gearing.
@@motorsportfreak1 refer back to your question. If the 79 had smaller diameter tyres how would this affect the Dyno power?
Well standard 79series tyres are 32", standard amarok tyrea are 30". Put 33s on a Amarok and you still getting more than a 79 gives on 32s.
@@148Reaper But then you have an amarok.
I got my d40 Navara tuned to 152.1kw with no engine mods. Probs gonna explode if I surpass 3000rpm but yer :)