Clearly a "permitted load" with the escorts. That route should have been well understood. At a minimum the railway should have been alerted and given the engineer and conductor a chance.
@@lauraalbert they was on the correct route...the tracks was clear... maybe they should have contacted RR company prior to crossing but if it's not required that can't really use that against them.. and maybe they did.. possible that someone at RR company failed to communicate with conductor
@Onlydatruthmatters Speculative nonsense does not increase its internal nonsense during written or oral presentation. Leave such to the professional newscaster. They are steeped in waxing eloquent without regard to veracity.
I thought the report said that the load involved in the train collision was the base of a wind turbine pedestal? That was not a component of a wind turbine! It looks more like something that belongs in an oil refinery.
So what made this so bad, the truck was stuck at that crossing for like 30min + , you would though shrerfif/pd would been notified to call RR dispatch and provided crossing # and description. This accident should have never happen.
It was reported that this trailer was a "lowboy" type that got stuck on the train track, but from the looks of it from this video shows that it is not, so why or how was this load happened to get stuck on the tracks for 45mins prior meeting the union pacific train?
@sct4501 in escorting large or heavy loads, isn't there a vehicle that travels ahead of the rest to see if there's any obstacles along the route to see if they have to change
The 20 second rule governs the time between of the crossing protection operation and completion thereof prior to the train arriving and blocking the roadway. The flashing crossing lights and operation/lowering the gates (not called 'barriers') must be finished before the train arrives.
Going to be curious to watch the outcome of this for the transport company. Hard to see how they can survive financially, and even if so, this is a major mark on their reputation. They had a post on FB early Nov showing a large load crossing a set of tracks, and all about the coordination involved in moving large loads over tracks to prevent accidents. The post has since been taken down. Tragic accidents happen every day, but this one was so preventable, it's just sickening. Condolences to the families that lost loved ones, and I even hurt for the guys we see here. At this point they were on top of the world, making big things happen! Then a few hours later...
As for the left lane driving, I would say it was intentional. Sometimes the inside lane has greater overhead clearances. During the video the load passes under an overhead highway bridge, under some overhead wires, and then there are some interstate exit sign cantilevers that could be lower clearance and more problematic from the right lane.
A BUNCH OF FOOLS WHO HAD NO CLUE ABOUT THE LOW GROUND CLEARANCE AT THE RAIL WAY CROSSING: THERE IS A WARNING INDICATING LOW CLEARANCE AND THEY COMPLETELY IGNORED IT.. AND DID NOTHING FOR 45 MINUTES! BUT ON THE ROAD, THEY ACT LIKE THEY ARE THE KING ON THE ROAD.
This looks more like the vessel in the derailment videos. I've worked in a lot of petro-chem plants. Also, a windmill tower section is a lot lighter. So, yeah, this seems quite likely. Thx for the video.
This is not the kind of load or trailer that Im dragging across any railroad track unless train dispatch has been notified and all trains are stopped and there's a couple of spotters outside the trailer watching the clearance. An escort way in front and another behind does absolutely nothing at this critical moment, they should have been watching the trailer. Poor planning and execution.
Worked on a remote site with rr track crossings at various points - every time equipment , supply’s or Anything else crossed those tracks it had to be phoned in before hand - no exceptions - this accident has me wondering
This is and extendable hyd platform trailer with axles in the center configured with goose neck instead of tow bar. The trailer length when going over hump caused weight on drive axles to be relieved causing tractor to spin out.
Had escorts front and rear, plus a cycle cop and still frigged up!!! Same kind of crap happened on the Norfolk Southern in Collegedale TN. In both cases, no coordination of the truck movements over the crossing with the rail companies! At least in TN the train crew survived.
Looks like a Humidifier for some kind of Refinery. I personally find the Escort service along with the trucking for having supposedly an illegal immigrant with no CDL. That's my opinion is the details are correct. It's an ABSOLUTE SHAME 2 railroad employees parrished in this. God bless all those involved.
Need to have an app. That show you any moving trains from 15-20-30- 40, miles out. Getting there safely is the goal, not how fast to get there. With an app. the road crew could contact the conductor. When need before crossing over the tracks. 40-years driving flatbed. A light can go on, if a train is 40-30-20-10-miles out. So, both sides can have an idea, to what is going on, ahead of time.
That thing to me is huge ! Looks like a bloody rocket or something. Just saying that's all. It might not be the size of a train but still......quite a decent over sized load for sure......
In the end, the railroad always has the right of way. It’s your responsibility to safely cross. If it’s questionable whether your load will clear, don’t risk it. Getting there a few minutes later is better than causing a collision. I’m sure they could have rerouted and found a better place to cross or even bypassed the tracks via overpass.
I seen another video where that train just went through that vessel like it's nothing I spent over 4 years building those vessels kind of just like it they can be up to 3 and 1/2 in thick of Steel
How you know the RR company isn't at fault?? Maybe they were contacted and was giving the all clear mistakenly.... RR companies are known for miscommunicating and causing accidents...
How we know for sure that the RR company isn't at fault?? Maybe dispatch failed to communicate with the conductor/ train? And other trains in the area..??... they are known for miscommunication... putting two trains on the same tracks going in opposite directions... not throwing the switches etc etc...
I have pulled these things myself. They are definitely used at oil and gas plants. The collision in Pecos, Tx. involved a section of the tower for a wind turbine. That crash was definitely avoidable. It was a shame that the two railroad employees had to die because of stupidity. My Grandfather died in a locomotive crash in Louisiana when my Dad was only two yrs. old. Crashes are avoidable 99% of the time.
I’m guessing so they never need to encounter traffic merging. Yes, they shouldn’t be hogging the passing lane but changing lanes often might make the load shift. Probably safer to just maintain speed and stay In the same lane.
You know nothing about trucking period! Oversized loads have authority to block traffic take up lanes for the reason of avoiding damage and danger.. this is why they have escorts and special permits....
Is this the same company thats alread had two other incedents within the last about 6 months with oil refinary equipment? Think they both hit bridges bc they ignored their pre approved routes.
Because it was coming up on an overpass and it was higher in the middle. Therefore it was in the left lane for clearance. It was over height, over length. That does not excuse them for getting stuck on the tracks causing the accident. This simply a reason for them to be in the left lane, but also to get through the local traffic. That load couldn’t be stopped on a dime and it looked like there was traffic entering and exiting in that area.
First of all , they shouldn't have been driving on the fast lane (left lane) .. on that part of I-10 , speed limits are usually 80 moh . Signs clealy state " Left lane for passing only"
Depends on what side of the trailer hangs over more, the load may determine which lane they will use, because of bridges and obstacles to the right of the load
More proof how deadly wind generators actually are! Unless driver/company can prove mechanical or physical problems they are out of business and driver will never drive anything ever again.
I'm no fan of whirly-gigs myself, but this is nothing to do with them. This is a "tower" used in processing liquids; oil, gas, bio-fuels, etc. NTSB was wrong in calling it a "Turbine base", and has since corrected that.
How many white/red tri-axle Pete's does boss transport operate? do they always use the same the same escorts? how many blue heavy haul trailers do they have? do they always have the motorcycle cop escort? Yeah exactly what I thought
Clearly a "permitted load" with the escorts. That route should have been well understood. At a minimum the railway should have been alerted and given the engineer and conductor a chance.
Well said!
Total escort company liability
And, stupidity
@@lauraalbert they was on the correct route...the tracks was clear... maybe they should have contacted RR company prior to crossing but if it's not required that can't really use that against them.. and maybe they did.. possible that someone at RR company failed to communicate with conductor
😂😂😂
@Onlydatruthmatters Speculative nonsense does not increase its internal nonsense during written or oral presentation. Leave such to the professional newscaster. They are steeped in waxing eloquent without regard to veracity.
Looks like a clear case of piss poor planning
Piss poor planning and failure to communicate with the rail company apparently!
@@pixamite1 Exactly
They didn't practice the 7 P's. Prior Proper Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance 😐
I thought the report said that the load involved in the train collision was the base of a wind turbine pedestal? That was not a component of a wind turbine! It looks more like something that belongs in an oil refinery.
The news rarely ever gets anything right. The video showing the impact clearly shows it's not a base.
It's a distillation tower
News are as corrupt as they are stupid!
You could tell from the video of when it is stuck on the tracks that is part of a distillation tower, and indeed NOT a part of a windmill tower.
You believe the news?
There are accidents and then there are events which could be easily avoided.
So what made this so bad, the truck was stuck at that crossing for like 30min + , you would though shrerfif/pd would been notified to call RR dispatch and provided crossing # and description.
This accident should have never happen.
Stuck for two minutes, not thirty as was previously made-up and reported.
It was reported that this trailer was a "lowboy" type that got stuck on the train track, but from the looks of it from this video shows that it is not, so why or how was this load happened to get stuck on the tracks for 45mins prior meeting the union pacific train?
It is still a low trailer or a lower trailer
In small towns, rail crossings are usually a 1-2 ft elevation change in a lot of locations. Planning should have been much better.
Probably broke down from emmisions
as a former truck driver, I agree that that trailer as a Lot more clearance than a "lowboy". puzzling how it could get stuck
@sct4501 in escorting large or heavy loads, isn't there a vehicle that travels ahead of the rest to see if there's any obstacles along the route to see if they have to change
When the train trips the signal, you only have 20 seconds to clear the tracks, thats hard to do on a good day
The 20 second rule governs the time between of the crossing protection operation and completion thereof prior to the train arriving and blocking the roadway. The flashing crossing lights and operation/lowering the gates (not called 'barriers') must be finished before the train arrives.
THEY WERE STUCK FOR 45 MINUTES!
Going to be curious to watch the outcome of this for the transport company. Hard to see how they can survive financially, and even if so, this is a major mark on their reputation. They had a post on FB early Nov showing a large load crossing a set of tracks, and all about the coordination involved in moving large loads over tracks to prevent accidents. The post has since been taken down.
Tragic accidents happen every day, but this one was so preventable, it's just sickening. Condolences to the families that lost loved ones, and I even hurt for the guys we see here. At this point they were on top of the world, making big things happen! Then a few hours later...
Well said.. I find it eerie even seeing this thing, even worse is a video of the train departing Birmingham AL
As for the left lane driving, I would say it was intentional. Sometimes the inside lane has greater overhead clearances. During the video the load passes under an overhead highway bridge, under some overhead wires, and then there are some interstate exit sign cantilevers that could be lower clearance and more problematic from the right lane.
Anybody in Texas realize they have a problem to fix?
A BUNCH OF FOOLS WHO HAD NO CLUE ABOUT THE LOW GROUND CLEARANCE AT THE RAIL WAY CROSSING: THERE IS A WARNING INDICATING LOW CLEARANCE AND THEY COMPLETELY IGNORED IT.. AND DID NOTHING FOR 45 MINUTES! BUT ON THE ROAD, THEY ACT LIKE THEY ARE THE KING ON THE ROAD.
This looks more like the vessel in the derailment videos. I've worked in a lot of petro-chem plants. Also, a windmill tower section is a lot lighter. So, yeah, this seems quite likely. Thx for the video.
That was probably a $10m dollar load.
It got a shit ton more expensive in Pecos!
That is not a wind tower stack
Any other painfully obvious bits of wisdom to share?
This is not the kind of load or trailer that Im dragging across any railroad track unless train dispatch has been notified and all trains are stopped and there's a couple of spotters outside the trailer watching the clearance. An escort way in front and another behind does absolutely nothing at this critical moment, they should have been watching the trailer. Poor planning and execution.
I would have thought there would have been someone there from the railroad company for that sort of movement. Saved $2000 fee and spend $20m.
@johnclements6614
Maybe but only if they called the railroad in advance and we don't know if they did or not but I'm guessing no they didn't.
Worked on a remote site with rr track crossings at various points - every time equipment , supply’s or Anything else crossed those tracks it had to be phoned in before hand - no exceptions - this accident has me wondering
Yup..........someone sang the BANKRUPT blues for xmas while two families planned to bury loved ones
This is and extendable hyd platform trailer with axles in the center configured with goose neck instead of tow bar. The trailer length when going over hump caused weight on drive axles to be relieved causing tractor to spin out.
looks like flat crossing
So maybe this load should have had a pusher?
That makes sense, the jeep hit the high section of the crossing and took the weight off of the drives on the tractor leaving it spinning the tires
@@alanpope179 Yessir
@@catman13131313 please look at Google Maps. it is not flat. maps.app.goo.gl/p5pRTrYECxs5VoVx5
Large loads are required to contact signallers before crossing tracks in UK. That ensures trains shall be stopped if load fails to clear the crossing.
Had escorts front and rear, plus a cycle cop and still frigged up!!! Same kind of crap happened on the Norfolk Southern in Collegedale TN. In both cases, no coordination of the truck movements over the crossing with the rail companies! At least in TN the train crew survived.
Cycle cop cost! need to save that penny!
Not a motor officer. No police department emblem anywhere. Also not in uniform.
@@SereiRosewood 100% agree! mistake after mistake!
Looks like a Humidifier for some kind of Refinery. I personally find the Escort service along with the trucking for having supposedly an illegal immigrant with no CDL. That's my opinion is the details are correct. It's an ABSOLUTE SHAME 2 railroad employees parrished in this. God bless all those involved.
Need to have an app. That show you any moving trains from 15-20-30- 40, miles out.
Getting there safely is the goal, not how fast to get there. With an app. the road crew could contact the conductor. When need before crossing over the tracks. 40-years driving flatbed.
A light can go on, if a train is 40-30-20-10-miles out. So, both sides can have an idea, to what is going on,
ahead of time.
That thing to me is huge ! Looks like a bloody rocket or something. Just saying that's all. It might not be the size of a train but still......quite a decent over sized load for sure......
In the end, the railroad always has the right of way. It’s your responsibility to safely cross. If it’s questionable whether your load will clear, don’t risk it. Getting there a few minutes later is better than causing a collision. I’m sure they could have rerouted and found a better place to cross or even bypassed the tracks via overpass.
I seen another video where that train just went through that vessel like it's nothing I spent over 4 years building those vessels kind of just like it they can be up to 3 and 1/2 in thick of Steel
Looks like a fracking tower...and it's not low so what happened at the railroad crossing?
Could have lost air to the parking brake. Those lines bust and brakes will set.
I call it "HELL ON WHEEL'S!!!"
Took out a Locomotive, and also destroyed the Fair City of Pecos, Tx Commerce Building.
There is a phone box at the rail crossing direct line to railroad
If your talking about the metal shed at the crossing that houses the electronics for the crossing. Not a phone booth.
There will be litigation for years. The pilot team screwed up for sure and the driver. They should have called the railroad 😢😢😢.
How you know the RR company isn't at fault?? Maybe they were contacted and was giving the all clear mistakenly.... RR companies are known for miscommunicating and causing accidents...
The load on its own was approx 80,000lb, the low trailer ultimately caused the loco to jump track.
How we know for sure that the RR company isn't at fault?? Maybe dispatch failed to communicate with the conductor/ train? And other trains in the area..??... they are known for miscommunication... putting two trains on the same tracks going in opposite directions... not throwing the switches etc etc...
Just imagine what Scott Byrd would've thought if he was told what would happen later on pertaining to his video or the cargo on the trailer.
I have pulled these things myself. They are definitely used at oil and gas plants. The collision in Pecos, Tx. involved a section of the tower for a wind turbine. That crash was definitely avoidable. It was a shame that the two railroad employees had to die because of stupidity. My Grandfather died in a locomotive crash in Louisiana when my Dad was only two yrs. old. Crashes are avoidable 99% of the time.
That shouldn't have got stuck
First problem…..why are they in the fast lane…..I can see now why they caused this accident….dudes are Klewless
I’m guessing so they never need to encounter traffic merging. Yes, they shouldn’t be hogging the passing lane but changing lanes often might make the load shift. Probably safer to just maintain speed and stay In the same lane.
Height clearance would be a tad higher in the fast lane, but did they even have a route survey ?
Holy sh%t! No wonder why that crashed a train..
It doesn't take much to get a pilot car certificate. These guys here in Oregon fly with those towers.
From the beginning, something fisssshiiee.. all them escorts.. and not know about the train.. and that's not a wind mill .. components.. mmmm
Where'd you get this?
Guy filming himself driving
Read the blue sign!
With any business…. Stupidity can cost you millions.
yep no pusher truck = fail.
Reminds me of who i work for
“I know someone who can do it cheaper”
Holding up traffic in the passing lane, while hauling oversized/heavy load. What an idiot!
You know nothing about trucking period! Oversized loads have authority to block traffic take up lanes for the reason of avoiding damage and danger.. this is why they have escorts and special permits....
The Escort (pilot car service) is gonna feel a lot of the pinch on this one........
unless he was part of the team that planned the route he has no fault on this accident .
Where was that truck headed and where did It came from
Is this the same company thats alread had two other incedents within the last about 6 months with oil refinary equipment? Think they both hit bridges bc they ignored their pre approved routes.
Well it looks like it weight as much as the locomotive does My be More.
I'd say less than a locomotive, at 68mph it doesn't really matter, it was the low trailer that ultimately caused it to derail.
How much does it weigh?
This tells you everything right here. He should be in the slow lane with that oversize load. NOT in the passing lane!
Because it was coming up on an overpass and it was higher in the middle. Therefore it was in the left lane for clearance. It was over height, over length. That does not excuse them for getting stuck on the tracks causing the accident. This simply a reason for them to be in the left lane, but also to get through the local traffic. That load couldn’t be stopped on a dime and it looked like there was traffic entering and exiting in that area.
Your wrong.
Does the permit require right and only? I’ve seen many permitted loads in the middle and left lanes.
Routing oversized loads through specific lanes can significantly reduce the potential for bridge collisions and enhance overall roadway safety.
Bridge clearance ahead.
What was that truck hauling?
Exactly what is clearly stated in the video description. Try and keep up.
First of all , they shouldn't have been driving on the fast lane (left lane) .. on that part of I-10 , speed limits are usually 80 moh . Signs clealy state " Left lane for passing only"
Depends on what side of the trailer hangs over more, the load may determine which lane they will use, because of bridges and obstacles to the right of the load
@@NightCrawler810 hadn't thought about that . Makes total sense . Thnx
yea u. p . trying to cover them lawsuits
More proof how deadly wind generators actually are! Unless driver/company can prove mechanical or physical problems they are out of business and driver will never drive anything ever again.
This isn’t even a part of a wind generator?
I'm no fan of whirly-gigs myself, but this is nothing to do with them. This is a "tower" used in processing liquids; oil, gas, bio-fuels, etc. NTSB was wrong in calling it a "Turbine base", and has since corrected that.
That's not part of a wind turbine at all.
That is a part for a refinery, A wind turbine section does not look like that at all.
Also why is this and "proof" being compared? This isn't related.
No proof that is the exact same load . Or truck..
Look at the remnants post crash and you’ll see the same tank, it’s just bent and wedged into the end of a building
How many white/red tri-axle Pete's does boss transport operate? do they always use the same the same escorts? how many blue heavy haul trailers do they have? do they always have the motorcycle cop escort? Yeah exactly what I thought
@@MrNorth69 what's your point?
They had 45 minutes to call the railroad.
@@MH-wo4be outright lie... NTSB even debunked that theory 2 days later..
Mistake s. R call it accidents
Last i heard, this tower was headed to my employers jobsite.
The Cowboy?
@samueldoss2464 OPD but I don't know the first thing of what or where they're working out in Pecos
Why is he in the left lane? Bullshit.
Bridges are higher in the left lane , ppl merging from on Ramps , ppl exiting from the right lane
@@jakemccann2790 you do have a point there. i was just quickly reacting out of anger.
@@CAV3MAN227 you didn't sound angry
@@CAV3MAN227 if you know absolutely nothing about the transportation industry then please 🤫
That is not the load.
That is definitely it.
Totally is
Wow