Oh my God the ice cream part made me so sad growing up in an abusive household running after an ice cream truck was the only thing that made me happy you can't even do THAT
@@raoulduke7668 not as sad as when my dad had to have multiple surgeries. He’s not a Jehovahs Witness and had to talk to my sister and I alone to make sure he DID get blood, if needed.
It seems like it would be better to give the money to a non-religious disaster relief fund. That way, the money will absolutely go to the people in need, whether they belong to a church or not.
If you make "relief donation" to any organization, they are going to take a portion of it for "operating costs". If you want to make a donation to people in need and want to ensure that it goes to the people in need, make the donation personally.
@@jimmy_kirk The issue is, if it's a religious charity, more than likely they will help out only those of the faith. That is literally what op is saying. If you want to help those of a natural or man made disaster out of the kindness of your heart, it would be better to donate to a non-religious charity as they have a higher probability of helping others non-discriminately. It's funny how bad faith your comment is. "Donate to a charity that is less likely to discriminate against those of other religions/non religious" = "well, if you want to make a different don't to the people themselves."
@@thethoughtsofanobody6769 "It's funny how bad faith your comment is." No, my comment was made in good faith, I didn't twist anyone's words, or attempt to put words in anyone's mouth, I simply stated facts. It's weird that you take offense to my comment, as though donating to non-religious charities instead of religious charities is more important than focusing on getting the donations to those who need them.
@@jimmy_kirk Sometime you can't. In dire situations, where you have no way to contribute. (They might not have internet or a way to access funds). It would be best to donate to non-religious funds than to religious funds, or none at all. I'm calling it bad faith because not all people had go fund mes during or after natural disasters. Op was literally just saying it would be better to donate funds to people who will help regardless, than to pay people who help the few who are a part of their religion. Not all survivors have phones or internet and some organisations are their only means of support.
I remember when I was a kid my parents would give me church offering money every Sunday to give to youth group. I'd always hold on to the money after church ended because there was this ice cream van that pull up next to the church and sold ice cream/candies to the kids. Money well spent 😂.
@@SilkyLew more importantly: What is the lord, and how does anybody know what the lord is? IF they demonstrated any of that, THEN we could discuss whether the lord wants money.
If McDonald's refused to hire someone because they were a Christian, what do you think would happen to them? They'd get slammed with a civil rights lawsuit.
If they were a Christian, probably nothing would happen, assuming it happens in America or the like. If they were another, less common religion like Judaism or Islam, the there'd be trouble. Not saying that it's right to ignore injustice based on faith, it's just that in today's day and age no one cares if there is a lot of you, unfortunately
My mom she use to have a joke about door knocking JWs…..”I sneeze if I get around a JW” and she would even tell door knockers that, and force herself to sneeze when they came to the door. She did it so much the congregation doing it began to leave us alone…because she would literally say “IM DEATHLY ALLERGIC TO WITNESSES!!!!” and sneeze. As I child I didn’t understand why she did that, or why they freaked out so much over a dumb joke. but since discovering your channel I see how problematic JWs are by calling apostates diseased and stuff, and that mom was protecting us. Granted we were raised Catholic, but I gotta do something like that whenever I see door knocking JWs.
Also fun fact about sneezing... sneezing was once seen as being evidence of demonic possession. That's why you had to blessed them after sneezing, so that the demon couldn't re-enter the body. Crazy right? Right up there with believing that taking photos would steal/capture your soul.
Lol. All my mum had to do one Sunday is tell them she's headed off to catholic mass. That was about 5 or more years ago and they haven't come knocking since
"... but I gotta do something like that whenever I see door knocking JWs." try counterknocking: "Good morning, sir. Do you have a few minutes to talk about evolution by natural selection, and the genetic changes in populations over long periods of time?" ask them why nobody does that type of door knocking
I just asked them, if God's ultimate goal is for as many people as possible to love him and spend eternity with him in Heaven, why didn't he create things that way in the first place? Why make people suffer, many of them for eternity, if he could have prevented it?
My mom is Christian and she was telling me about how she needed to tithe to her church. I told her don't do that. That money isn't going to nowhere but the preacher's pockets. Donate it to a food bank or a charity. Jesus doesn't have a need for your money. She was pissed at me for saying it but she knew I was right.
its not just paying the salary of the priest or pastor. for these small churches the head of the congregation gets minimal income. The church needs to pay for utilities, mortgage or rent, property taxes, insurance, maintenance and repairs and other things to run even a small church. Unless you see the paster rolling in a Bentley or obviously doing things with the money then I would not assume its just going to line his pockets. But also only give what you can afford. This 10% of income is BS. some people can afford that but many can't and they should not be shamed into giving more then what is reasonable in the budget to give.
If a child wants to help someone in need, that is laudible and should be encouraged. But children also need to understand that not every "charity" is actually helping the needy. So I don't disagree with the start of the video - the urge to help out of our own abundance - but then directing that urge toward an opaque organization with a dubious history is WRONG.
Also that it's okay to spend your own money on yourself. You don't need to give all your money to a charity, you can buy yourself something that just makes you happy.
I don't have a problem with kids donating money to charity; but I've always told kids don't just give to anybody. Look how they use the gifts they are given. I used to give a dollar a week to my church when I was a kid. And I knew where the money went my Mom explained it to me, 10% went to our church diocese to help pay for Diocesan needs, so that was $0.10, $0.60 went to paying for physical buildings upkeep, that was 60%. 20% went to pay for a priest so that was $0.20. And the remaining 10% or $0.10 went to our churches outreach programs. Like feeding and housing the homeless; and supporting a number of city programs funded the assorted religious and non-religious groups in our area that the city couldn't fund by itself. Our church also gave anything that it had left over at the end of the year in the buildings budget to assorted outreach programs... We put our money where our mouth was and NEVER gave to organizations that required you to be religious to get help. Help shouldn't come with strings It's help, and its for everyone.
20% go to the priest and 10% go to "outreach programs" (unsure how much of this is charity). Damn, that priest sure is greedy. I've recently seen an article about how restraunts (small businesses, not big chains) distribute their income, and while there's a high markup (10-20% raw material) that's 10% to the owner's pocket... Shouldn't churches be non-profit!?
The kids ARE good. They want to help. And lying to them to take their money burns me. My parents would never do this if I was passionate about something. They would help me volunteer for it or help me donate directly. Also my church would never do this either!! They had separate tithing stations for if you didn’t want to give directly to the church but wanted to tithe where the money DID go to things like free school lunches for kids and stuff
@@c.lineofficialI wonder if the funds were actually separated though? Or if they just combined the money from both so that it all went to the same place anyway? (Like the "recycling bins" at my local mall, where everything just ends up in the garbage!)
Owen, I have a question: In Denmark we don't allow parents to refuse their children getting blood transfusions. If they need it, they will get it, and children are removed from parents (unfortunately not permanent) if it's necessary to save their lives. How does this affect the children's future membership of JW?
Speaking from an experience in my Ohio congregation, there was a teenage girl who was very sick with sickle cell anemia and the parents were told she needed a blood transfusion. The mother was a JW and refused to sign for it and because of her mom's stance, the girl said no to it too but the father wasn't a JW and signed the paperwork. The girl was given the transfusion. An announcement was made from the platform at the Kingdom Hall that she had been given the transfusion against her will and that everyone was to treat her as if had never gotten it. People actually went up to her and were consoling her for something that saved her life! That started me thinking that there was something wrong with this organization.
@@deebee153 Essentially they were upset because "my beliefs over reality" basically. It's a little less extreme but you see a similar behavior from the right wing when it came to... literally everything about Covid. Had a relative who got upset that her son got a vaccination because his father allowed it without her and she was apparently yelling about it for *hours*
In the first clip, you seem to have missed one detail. The money was to "help our brothers". They weren't trying to help all of the hurricane victims; only the JW ones.
@@tuvalu636 or they are simply just biblical: Women don't matter, unless you need somebody to blame. I was kidding in my first comment, by the way. As the :- ) shows it.
Working at a bank, the button in a piggy bank doesn’t surprise me. We had buttons, hair pins, even one time a whole bullet was found in the bank coin machine 😂
Oh man. Sophia can get an entire double scoop on a cone for just one silver coin?! Imagine what you could do with 30 of those bad boys! Edit: I have been corrected and my joke makes far more sense.
did you mean 30? Thirty pieces of silver was the price for which Judas Iscariot betrayed Jesus, according to an account in the Gospel of Matthew 26:15 in the New Testament. well, you can be the MOST important dude in the plan of the g0d WHILE earning money. Crisschunz really should celebrate judas :- )
If I was a kid and we had to pick up an old man from the meeting and take him to his house I would probably cry so much that he would feel embarrassed and leave.
@@morganc.m1830 because as a kid I hated people, especially ones in the congregation. I didn’t know any of the elders personally, so picking up an old man from the congregation automatically would mean that he would be a stranger. I hated having to talk to people in the congregation, and I hate having my time wasted if my family had to pick up an old man I didn’t know, and then drive him to his house to help him out, I wouldn’t be able to handle it and I’d cry.
I understand your experience was traumatic, but I still don't think that's a reason to generalize and put all old people into the category of "creep". You'll be old one day, what about then? If this sounds offensive, I'm not trying to be, and I greatly apologize if that's the case, but it seems a bit off to assume someone is a certain way just becuase they're at a certain age. Unless you mean old people who are part of a Jehovah's Witnesses congregation, I wouldn't touch them with a 10 foot pole so I understand you there. Mind you, I 100% understand if the elderly people you're talking about are J.W.'s. Those types of people deserve nothing, no matter their age, becuase they're just a bunch of cultists in a pyramid scheme. I get that. But hating people in general without even giving them a chance is wrong. Giving people a chance doesn't mean being naive. You can give someone a chance and still be ready to punch them and run away if they start acting suspicious. Refusing to give an old person a lift via your car simply because they're old shows you don't have any sense of perspective. If you were old and your legs suddenly gave out (Which happens to old people very often), wouldn't YOU ask for help as well?
As a kid I had to learn that you don't NEED to give your money away to charity, and that I could sometimes be selfish and do and buy stuff for myself in order to be happy, too. I wanted to be like Jesus, but I had to realise that wasn't feasible because it always would be at my expense.
My family had no Jesus - my grandma was raised as a Catholic as was the custom but she was 80 and still a bit embarrassed to say 'there is no God like that!' but I still understood the need to sometimes give to others. My mum was poor but she still gave our old clothes to even poorer folk and fed all my friends, bought me candy when she herself was hungry - no Jesus involved, just caring about others - and I still value the lesson and give whenever possible. However, forcing a child to always give makes an adult who is easily taken advantage of .. there is zero respect for folks who do it like that. It's like molding your child into a doormat, I'm pretty sure J. or no other authority meant it like that...
There will always be people in need, and no one person will ever have enough to help everyone. We have to pick and choose our battles and find ways to help that don't involve decimating ourselves. We have to stay mentally healthy also which means the occasional treat or whatever. We can't give it all away. It's not selfish to treat yourself.
My father, who was a dedicated JW Elder was still thoughtful. Due to the constant request/begging for money I felt I should do my part but I had a big problem. I only had coins and since the contribution box was wooden I was concerned about making a noise when I dropped my coins in and unnecessarily bringing attention to myself. So I spoke to my Dad as he always had the right answers. My father told me that it was a nice thought to contribute but as he was the head of the family, it was his responsibility to ensure that adequate funds were contributed and this he did on behalf of us all. Also, the money was pocket money from him and it was not intended for it to be contributed but was for us to enjoy. I wonder how he would have felt seeing this cartoon.
I did not know it matters to watch beginning to end, good info. At age 12 I determined I did not subscribe to the deity delusion telling my parents I did not want to attend church with my family. They agreed with no drama. I was given chores to do in their absence. I am 66 now and have never been inclined to change my belief on this matter.
@@F0rev3r.B0red That is a crime in Texas, Florida and possibly Arkansas if your child demonstrates and report they do not identify with their gender. It happens rarely but it does happen. So as a parent what are you going to do?
@@Mark-gg6iy I may misinterpret your question entirely but good communication with your child should give them a good understanding when they want to admit secrets to the adults because they trust them. States having to enforce a law about gender has nothing to do with having a good relationship with your child. No law should interfere with your child's happiness and safety since this mainly concerns not choosing to go to church and forcing them will only incentivize their decisions a.k.a going against their parents decisions out of spite. It goes both ways for people who are religious and those of non religious backgrounds and cultures. Eventually your kids aren't supposed to be mini versions of you but their own people as adults. But again if I didn't understand your question my bad in advance.
magic. Never forget magic. Everything is possible with magic. Well, only with the magic of tha lawrd, for the shape shifting of Zeus (for example) is just magic, and magic ain't not no real. (English butchered for illustrative purposes)
@@quandal1633 yes. And magic is magic is magic. It does not matter which fairy tale we pick. Well, it kinda does. There are those ugly, disgustingly racist, rapist, genocidal fairy tales, but from the magical aspect, it really does not matter.
"Does Jehovah want you to have ice cream?" "Uhh no?" "That's right! And do you know why Jehovah doesn't want you to have ice cream?" "Be...cause Jehovah loves us?" "That's right." Pretty much could be exactly the dialogue and it wouldn't shock me.
I feel like the worst thing about the first giving money section is that when disasters happen, it is very human to want to help, especially for children who don't understand the world so well yet. But instead of using the money that kids do want to donate, they use it for dumb stuff like the compounds and building congregation buildings over and over. Like, when the Ukraine-Russia conflict started, I wanted to go and help in any way I could, but I'm an adult. A child could go "oh I'll send them my money for restoration efforts or relocation for the refugees!" but then donate their money to a place that will never use their money for the intended reason.
What year is it, in Caleb and Sophia land? I want t ho know where you can get two scoops of ice cream for a quarter! I love how Dad just invites the guy without even telling, much less asking his wife first. But its not like theyre actually people with lives or anything!
Lowest of the low. Guilting little kids into parting with their change. Why do I have a feeling their father checks weekly to see what change got or did not get put in their piggy banks.
I never got the concept of giving your money to preachers as "charity"... Since we know it mostly goes to making preachers rich. In fact so-called charities that just keep all or most of the money should be illegal. It's dishonest and slimy 😒 They should absolutely have to be up front where the money is going and all the paperwork be public. If they aren't being honest, and/or are keeping too much of the money for themselves they should lose any charity status.
I feel comfortable enough saying as I’m LGBT, but the gayer it looks the more likely I’d call it prancing and Sophia looked as gay as you can get so definitely prancing here.
I feel like Sophia-is-a-lesbian is fanon at this point. I see SO many people say it and that she looks like she'll be disfellowdhipped at some point and go to college
am I the only one that noticed during the old guy episode, the Dad didn't discuss it with Mom to make sure she was OK with helping this random stranger out too? Just have the guy plop in and the Dad pretty much with the attitude of 'we are helping this guy, screw your plans?'
But they did make the face of the mom look like she didn't feel happy about it, for a moment at least, when he plopped in the car she put on a certain face, meaning that the makers of this animation(s series) acknowledge to know that a wife might not feel so happy about such a thing, or about anything for that matter, happening without her consenting to it as well, they just find it important to show that the wife can and does feel unhappy about it, only for a very short moment or at least it's only for a very short moment readable on her face, so they can also show how she does not say a word about how she feels about something that her husband happens to have decided and how she just goes along with it, because anything her husband says flies, and so they can also show the man (husband, father) to not care about that and to not ask her anything, all this is meant to set an example,
@@Notendop90 Yeah the wife is expected to be subservient. She couldn't say "But what about the kids's planned trip to the park? We planned this before you just up and changed it!"
it is a biblical thing. Women don't matter. Unless you need somebody to blame. F.e. we know the name of Adam's wife. We don't know the name of Mrs Noah.
@@headphonesaxolotl exceptions. Now imagine a movie where only a handful of Homo Sapiens survive a zoo adventure on a global ocean and you DON'T get the names of the females. Where our female ancestors are ALL nameless baby making machines. yeah, the g00d b00k 0f the g0d. luckily, magic can still work in it.
This isn't just a Jehovah's Witness experience. I grew up Baptist, and I can remember as a kid feeling incredibly embarrassed whenever I didn't have any money for tithe, because they wired us as children to feel bad and ashamed if we didn't donate money because that means you aren't a TRUE christian, because JESUS would have given everything he had and more
Growing up, my grandfather would give me and my brother the occasional quarter or half dollar, and I noticed that mine always managed to "disappear" no matter where I put it in my bedroom. Only years later did it occur to me what was happening, after a conversation I had with my mother who by that time was dying from cancer. She was sneaking into my room when I wasn't there, taking all the money of mine she found and handing it over that Sunday at the Kingdom Hall. I reckon the only reason she didn't also do this to my brother was she and my father practically worshipped my brother, whereas I was abused by both my brother and my mother. I can't thank you enough for exposing that truly satanic cult. I was raised in that wicked cult and at 67 I still carry the scars from what it did to my family.
I'm always proud of my kids when they donate to charity instead of buying something they want but I also always look into the charity and have the kids look into it as well being fore they decide
I grew up Mormon, and there are a LOT of similarities. They had Don Bluth making animated episodes of Bible and BoM stories back then, dunno if they still make those anymore. Completely monopolizing the time of your congregation is extremely important in keeping them under control, never asking questions about where all that money goes to, or having time or energy to have any unique thoughts. It is absolutely ghoulish to expect children to give up their money and precious time to a cause they never had a choice in being apart of.
I can't believe I did this but when I was in college a hundred or so years ago a JW came to my college apartment door. I was really desperate at that stage of my life so I talked to her. She came back the next day with a hunky young man. They talked to me and then gave me literature and ASKED ME TO PAY FOR IT. Oh geez- I knew that it was weird and told them so and told them not to come back. They never showed up again. What I find humorous now is that when I was young JWs were considered really 'out there'...now they seem to be rather mild when I listen to all the bizarre crap religions are spewing nowadays.
Sophia was definitely not moseying to the ice cream seller. That was . . . . I dunno, fairy dancing? Float-skipping? It was a bit too whimsical and graceful to be just prancing.
OMG---they just get Scumier and Slimier. This cult was always manipulative, as I think back but they've taken it to a whole new level. So great to be out.
I once took lessons from JWs. I had to have somebody tell them I didn't want to join, and to stop comming. I had just left the Mormon church. I was vulnerable.
"And thus, the Icecream seller went out of buissnes due to a lack of costumers. Now out of a job, they were unable to provide for their family. They had to mive out of their house, their kids no longer could go to the best school, and feeling hungry became the norm. In the end the kids had to drop out in order to find job of their own to feed the family, the Icecream seller started drinking out of guilt, and their partner ended up divorcing them. Years later, the poor Icecream seller took their own life, their children estranged and their partner long gone. If only Sophia had shown some generosity and given the poor seller her buissnes..."
I have an honest question. How do these JW families survive on the salary of a window washer? Considering the state of the economy these days and the fact that most states don't even average over 50$ a year? It feels like these families would be heavily reliant on charity from their church to even survive, even if both parents work.
8:35 So, do they have their own grocery stores? Is that just at the HQ or is that something that congregations in towns in other states have access to? I'm interested in this system of food distribution.
I’m glad my parents never forced me into any kind of religion. Unfortunately, I follow the bastards until I decided to become an apostate. Best decision ever.
@@robinrobyn1714 yeah. now you can accept 1 type of magic while rejecting all the other types of equally proven magic. Good for you. by the way, most atheist parents simply don't talk about deities and the supernatural.
@@istvansipos9940 I don't believe in magic. Only ignorant trash compare Theology with magic. By the way, it's intrinsic to what it means to be a Human Being, engaging in religion. Mankind has engaged in the Theological Experience since as far back as Upper Paleolithic times and continues to do so, in the billions around the world. Only ignorant trash are too stupid to understand that.
@@JohnDlugosz fair point. And the fun point: Even in that case, Robin rejects the vast majority of magical beings. Because magic is not real :- ) Only real magic is real.
First I want to thank you Owen, I just love your viewpoints. I grew up in the 60's and learned the truth about the Catholic church and organized religion. When my dad lost his job at 50 and a WW2 vet, they literally called him and asked how come you havent turned in your envelopes for several weeks. I was horrified that they cared more about his money than his well being. How very sickened I was that they used his "faith" for their gain. I have seen Jehovahs use a little girl to knock on doors that had toys outside just to harass the parents who answered. Even at a friends baby baptism they were asked to sign a petition to ban the LGBTQ community. Wow how very insulting, especially when you preach an all loving "god". Everyone has a right to believe in whatever religion they decide to, but forcing it on someone else is wrong. Just look back into history and how it seems that greed, evil, and force, have destroyed so many cultures and innocence just for cruelty, power and profit.I have only seen hipocrasy, none of these organized religions practice what they seem to preach, it truly is a shame. If everyone was the same nobody would learn anything. You are such a breath of fresh air and I apprieciate your hard work. Thanks again and always stay true to who you are.
I'm catholic and my dad's side of the family were JWs, and I used to go to the kingdom hall on Sundays and watch these Caleb and Sophia videos. I once heard my mom say that she couldn't go back to kingdom hall after what they did to my father. She provided no further context to this and knowing that it's a cult scares me to death about what could've possibly happened, thank you for exposing these people !!
You should follow through and file a lawsuit against the employer that refused to hire you because you were dis fellowshiped, that's a civil rights violation, refusing to hire someone based on religions beliefs, I'm sure a attorney will take that case at no cost, until a settlement was paid.
You should know that the organisation hasn’t been self sufficient for decades now. They used to have Watchtower Farms but these were done away with a long time ago because it wasn’t cost effective.
I remember regularly tithing when I was a kid and remember how good it felt to hear that "clank" of coin in the bottom of the metal bucket. It's a sound that haunts me now. Grew up to realize how scummy it was that such a famous big name church was still taking money from people even though I know they're getting great funding and are pastored by a very well off family.
I think another insidious thing about the final one is that the dad just tells the family "okay we're helping this guy now" without giving them ANY notice. In general, that's kind of how people tend to treat kids which always frustrated me growing up, that you can spend all day with a certain expectation for what your day will be like but you have no control if it changes. (And then they frame it as the kid "making a sacrifice" as if he has any say in the matter). But the dad also didn't consult his wife at all and she just has to smile and go along with it. Which I'm sure is how wives are expected to act. But imo even if you are already certain your partner and family will agree with something you should at least show some courtesy and run it by them first.
Yep. I "donated" my allowance to the church during lent. My whole $2 that I only got if I did every chore to total satisfaction. Which is pretty hard as a child.
Question: when you give aid relief through their organization, do you get a tax return for that? I don't know how it works in America, but up in Canada, if you donate to charity, it's deducted off your taxes, so long as you give a receipt to the person who does your taxes so that you can prove it. Does this kind of thing have that benefit, at least?
JW's would be exempt from charitable tax write-offs for their organization, because in America, churches don't pay taxes. In theory this is great, because it's supposed to uphold the principle of separation of church and state. In practice, religions still try to work their way into politics.
this almost reminds me of when I was growing up. my mom was a lot like this. except I grew up in the LDS Mormon religion. there really isn't much of a difference in how you do things and what you do. just the belief is different really. and i mean everything was the same. i also couldn't friend outsiders. there were a lot of Church activities to attend. also, when I became a decan in the LDS church i had to go to members' homes to teach the word of God. that was to prepare us as Mormon missionaries. which I never went on. i left the church before that. my mom was not happy. but she got over it after some years. I'm her place now in fact for a Sunday dinner.
I had church stuff all the time as a kid. Saturday, Sunday, and Wednesday. Sometimes Friday. Also with taekwondo and dance class, biking, homework, chores and even summer camps with church. Very busy as a kid. Not so much anymore, thankfully.
Owen: a button (or slug) in the piggy bank is to replace a coin that was taken out, so it still rattles and doesn't betray that the money had been removed.
The idea that young children are being told that they need to sacrifice the things they enjoy (which are important in order to help fully develop their sense of self) in order to fund an organisation that already has more money than justifiable genuinely devastates me. These kids miss out on so much of their childhoods.
you can only stop it by talking talking to the young kids and tell them that there is a world outside the rules and obligations. Their parents is too far gone and they wont change their mind. Remember to take it easy and if you feel that its getting worse its better to step back and drop it before it goes serious south. Information is power to change their life in such a way so they can live happy, You cant tell them to do as you say but you can plant a seed in their mind that will grow into a decision and a positive change over time.
currently stuck in jw cuz they've managed to get into my mom's head, im around the ages of 10-14 (wont specify) and man its hard pretending i believe in all this shit but what can i do 🤷 some stuff already happened between my parents, but thanks to those stupid letters there's no chance of me ever having a normal childhood :/ shit would be so much easier if i could just forcibly rewire myself to fit their beliefs
@@Mintea_-ou2mj Do the best of the time you have left, when you are 18 you can move out and get a good life. You cant help your mom if she decide to stay with JW but you can talk to the creator and he can help you with a few good tips. He left JW when was young and know what it takes to get your life back.
my church was like this i used to be christian (not anymore btw) but instead the church would go around with a basket you would put money in the basket and they would give you a candy of choice it was always $1.00 exactly
I genuinely tend to leave videos kind of quickly, I have a really bad attention span (probably undiagnosed adhd, as well as other stuff I've been diagnosed with lol), but your little cut ins genuinely help my brain be like "Oh, something's happening, it's not one long thing,". I haven't clicked off a video of yours since you started doing it, so I guess it's working lol.
Im Jewish, and our synagoge was raising money for the victims of the california wildfires back in 2019. They listed the exact organization they were giving the money to, and nobody was forced to donate. I gave them $20, which was not ll of my money.
I lived with my grandmother growing up and she is a Jehovah's Witness. I remember when the brothers and sisters would go around and fix up or build new kingdom halls. Yes it was all volunteer work but I never once heard about anyone going other's houses that were effected by hurricanes or tornados and fixing or building them new houses. It was always "pray to Jehovah and he will help bless them." I always hated hearing that. So glad I never got baptized and got out of there.
I have had family members put buttons in coin jars because the buttons popped off, and they didn't pay attention to what all goes into the jar. Once had an uncle put my aunts needle threader that looks like a coin into a coin jar. It's also funny how the poor are always getting demands of people wanting donations as the richer people i see say no to even tipping.
Question...I know you said to watch from start to finish... Which I do but not in one setting... So, If I start the video and pause it and then go back in like 2 hours to finish it and do finish.... Does that watch behavior effect the channel negatively? Watching is the only way I can support right now so just wondering if the way I watch is alright. Thanks for all the videos and stuff. Your content is awesome!
11:10 notice how quiet the mother becomes when a man enters the car? I think it might be that jehovahs witnesses encourage women not to speak in situations like this and instead the husband speaks. Subtle but definitely intentional.
Plus, the whole 'give it to the BROTHERS' because why give money to women? The manfolk need the money to take care of their women. Women have fathers and husbands, they don't need money.
The kids don't seem to have a voice either. "Dad, I don't feel safe having to sit in the backseat with this old man that I don't know" "How dare you say that,we need to help the people around us and make sacrifices!" I mean, Caleb is clearly not comfortable when the man gets in the car and is visibly disappointed/upset/mad because they won't go to the park. He's entitled to those feelings but his parents totally disregarded their son's very valid feelings in favor of doing something that will make their God happy. That's not okay. Caleb didn't make the choice to help that man, his dad did. But apparently, the rest of the family is supposed to just blindly obey the "head of thd household" like their opinions and feelings don't and shouldn't matter.
I’m so glad I found your channel… now I can be more aware of such people. Unfortunately tho i have a literal Jehovah witness building near my school which infuriates me. I hope they take it down or maybe turn it into something better.
as i Christian i legit cannot believe that a CHURCH would indoctrinate like this. churches are optional, not supposed to be forced upon impressionable adolescents.
My parents taught me to save money so I could save it in a bank account. We were still allowed to spend our allowances, but we were given choices and allowed to learn about taking care of ourselves. We also did volunteer things and helped buy holiday gifts for needy families and other charity. Kids like C&S are so young that it really seems ridiculous to make them shell out their nickels and dimes for someone else... :/
Here's what I've been doing...I download the video and like immediately. Then, I listen with my aftershocks at night. ❤️ I hope it helps....if there's something else I can do let me know, Owen.
Oh my God the ice cream part made me so sad growing up in an abusive household running after an ice cream truck was the only thing that made me happy you can't even do THAT
I was so isolated when I was little that I wasn't allowed to go to the ice cream truck. Let alone run after it..
@danielkeslerjr4407
Hope you are making up for that now Daniel and are having a good life
@@jimmyh6601ty, I'm trying. It's hard tho.
@@Zeeboklown
Hang in there
@@Zeeboklown keep your head up king
JW: Help others:)
Person needing blood transfusion to live:
**crickets**
"noooo those are different"
My mom was in the hospital recently and made sure to point out to not give her blood in case the issue came up
@@cassievining340 Damn that's kinda sad...
@@raoulduke7668 not as sad as when my dad had to have multiple surgeries. He’s not a Jehovahs Witness and had to talk to my sister and I alone to make sure he DID get blood, if needed.
It seems like it would be better to give the money to a non-religious disaster relief fund. That way, the money will absolutely go to the people in need, whether they belong to a church or not.
If you make "relief donation" to any organization, they are going to take a portion of it for "operating costs". If you want to make a donation to people in need and want to ensure that it goes to the people in need, make the donation personally.
@@jimmy_kirk The issue is, if it's a religious charity, more than likely they will help out only those of the faith. That is literally what op is saying. If you want to help those of a natural or man made disaster out of the kindness of your heart, it would be better to donate to a non-religious charity as they have a higher probability of helping others non-discriminately.
It's funny how bad faith your comment is.
"Donate to a charity that is less likely to discriminate against those of other religions/non religious" = "well, if you want to make a different don't to the people themselves."
@@thethoughtsofanobody6769 "It's funny how bad faith your comment is."
No, my comment was made in good faith, I didn't twist anyone's words, or attempt to put words in anyone's mouth, I simply stated facts.
It's weird that you take offense to my comment, as though donating to non-religious charities instead of religious charities is more important than focusing on getting the donations to those who need them.
@@jimmy_kirk Sometime you can't. In dire situations, where you have no way to contribute. (They might not have internet or a way to access funds). It would be best to donate to non-religious funds than to religious funds, or none at all.
I'm calling it bad faith because not all people had go fund mes during or after natural disasters. Op was literally just saying it would be better to donate funds to people who will help regardless, than to pay people who help the few who are a part of their religion. Not all survivors have phones or internet and some organisations are their only means of support.
@@thethoughtsofanobody6769 Why discriminate based on religion?
“How does a button get in a coin jar?” I feel called out. I did that all the time as a kid lol
You’re not the only one lol. Buttons or anything else coin-shaped.
Me too lol
I'm mostly annoyed that I spent $4 on an icecream Sophia got for a quarter.
Silly; buttons belong in the cookie tin that never holds cookies! 😉
I definitely did that as a kid too.
I remember when I was a kid my parents would give me church offering money every Sunday to give to youth group. I'd always hold on to the money after church ended because there was this ice cream van that pull up next to the church and sold ice cream/candies to the kids. Money well spent 😂.
lord only wanted the first 10% not all your money
Well, the money would be used to get more ice cream for that truck.
Good for you, that's awesome lol
@mroie Why would the lord want money in the first place?
@@SilkyLew more importantly: What is the lord, and how does anybody know what the lord is? IF they demonstrated any of that, THEN we could discuss whether the lord wants money.
If McDonald's refused to hire someone because they were a Christian, what do you think would happen to them? They'd get slammed with a civil rights lawsuit.
If they were a Christian, probably nothing would happen, assuming it happens in America or the like. If they were another, less common religion like Judaism or Islam, the there'd be trouble. Not saying that it's right to ignore injustice based on faith, it's just that in today's day and age no one cares if there is a lot of you, unfortunately
My mom she use to have a joke about door knocking JWs…..”I sneeze if I get around a JW” and she would even tell door knockers that, and force herself to sneeze when they came to the door. She did it so much the congregation doing it began to leave us alone…because she would literally say “IM DEATHLY ALLERGIC TO WITNESSES!!!!” and sneeze. As I child I didn’t understand why she did that, or why they freaked out so much over a dumb joke. but since discovering your channel I see how problematic JWs are by calling apostates diseased and stuff, and that mom was protecting us. Granted we were raised Catholic, but I gotta do something like that whenever I see door knocking JWs.
Also fun fact about sneezing... sneezing was once seen as being evidence of demonic possession. That's why you had to blessed them after sneezing, so that the demon couldn't re-enter the body. Crazy right? Right up there with believing that taking photos would steal/capture your soul.
Lol. All my mum had to do one Sunday is tell them she's headed off to catholic mass. That was about 5 or more years ago and they haven't come knocking since
"... but I gotta do something like that whenever I see door knocking JWs."
try counterknocking:
"Good morning, sir. Do you have a few minutes to talk about evolution by natural selection, and the genetic changes in populations over long periods of time?"
ask them why nobody does that type of door knocking
@@istvansipos9940 my friends sibling had a pamphlet about Buddahism in the house, she would start trying to convert them and they'd leave
I just asked them, if God's ultimate goal is for as many people as possible to love him and spend eternity with him in Heaven, why didn't he create things that way in the first place? Why make people suffer, many of them for eternity, if he could have prevented it?
My mom is Christian and she was telling me about how she needed to tithe to her church. I told her don't do that. That money isn't going to nowhere but the preacher's pockets. Donate it to a food bank or a charity. Jesus doesn't have a need for your money. She was pissed at me for saying it but she knew I was right.
Preacher needs a new car. 😄
@@deebee153 a shiny new Rolls Royce.
I used Tithe as my religion in Civ V all the time and I can tell you it went 100% to archers, knights, battleships and nukes.
@Dee Bee or another private jet 😂
its not just paying the salary of the priest or pastor. for these small churches the head of the congregation gets minimal income. The church needs to pay for utilities, mortgage or rent, property taxes, insurance, maintenance and repairs and other things to run even a small church. Unless you see the paster rolling in a Bentley or obviously doing things with the money then I would not assume its just going to line his pockets. But also only give what you can afford. This 10% of income is BS. some people can afford that but many can't and they should not be shamed into giving more then what is reasonable in the budget to give.
If a child wants to help someone in need, that is laudible and should be encouraged. But children also need to understand that not every "charity" is actually helping the needy. So I don't disagree with the start of the video - the urge to help out of our own abundance - but then directing that urge toward an opaque organization with a dubious history is WRONG.
Also that it's okay to spend your own money on yourself. You don't need to give all your money to a charity, you can buy yourself something that just makes you happy.
“How does a button get in a coin jar?” You, sir, underestimate children
I don't have a problem with kids donating money to charity; but I've always told kids don't just give to anybody. Look how they use the gifts they are given.
I used to give a dollar a week to my church when I was a kid. And I knew where the money went my Mom explained it to me, 10% went to our church diocese to help pay for Diocesan needs, so that was $0.10, $0.60 went to paying for physical buildings upkeep, that was 60%. 20% went to pay for a priest so that was $0.20. And the remaining 10% or $0.10 went to our churches outreach programs. Like feeding and housing the homeless; and supporting a number of city programs funded the assorted religious and non-religious groups in our area that the city couldn't fund by itself.
Our church also gave anything that it had left over at the end of the year in the buildings budget to assorted outreach programs... We put our money where our mouth was and NEVER gave to organizations that required you to be religious to get help. Help shouldn't come with strings It's help, and its for everyone.
The transparency is nice. Like yeah churches are tax-free... but they still need to pay for like heating and plumbing and whatnot
20% go to the priest and 10% go to "outreach programs" (unsure how much of this is charity). Damn, that priest sure is greedy.
I've recently seen an article about how restraunts (small businesses, not big chains) distribute their income, and while there's a high markup (10-20% raw material) that's 10% to the owner's pocket...
Shouldn't churches be non-profit!?
@@adrianblake8876 How the hell is the priest supposed to eat? That's the priests salary buddy.
Only $.10 to help? Wow, what a grift.
@@adrianblake8876 yup
The kids ARE good. They want to help. And lying to them to take their money burns me. My parents would never do this if I was passionate about something. They would help me volunteer for it or help me donate directly. Also my church would never do this either!! They had separate tithing stations for if you didn’t want to give directly to the church but wanted to tithe where the money DID go to things like free school lunches for kids and stuff
The separate tithing sounds cool!
@@c.lineofficialI wonder if the funds were actually separated though? Or if they just combined the money from both so that it all went to the same place anyway? (Like the "recycling bins" at my local mall, where everything just ends up in the garbage!)
"And some of it will go to buying a ton of liquor for Ex-Governing member, Tony Moris" That line killed me.
It was so out of pocket 😂
Owen, I have a question:
In Denmark we don't allow parents to refuse their children getting blood transfusions. If they need it, they will get it, and children are removed from parents (unfortunately not permanent) if it's necessary to save their lives. How does this affect the children's future membership of JW?
Speaking from an experience in my Ohio congregation, there was a teenage girl who was very sick with sickle cell anemia and the parents were told she needed a blood transfusion. The mother was a JW and refused to sign for it and because of her mom's stance, the girl said no to it too but the father wasn't a JW and signed the paperwork. The girl was given the transfusion. An announcement was made from the platform at the Kingdom Hall that she had been given the transfusion against her will and that everyone was to treat her as if had never gotten it. People actually went up to her and were consoling her for something that saved her life! That started me thinking that there was something wrong with this organization.
Ive seen hospitals temporarily revoke parental custody, assign a guardian to consent, do the transfusion, then restore custody
@@deebee153 Essentially they were upset because "my beliefs over reality" basically. It's a little less extreme but you see a similar behavior from the right wing when it came to... literally everything about Covid. Had a relative who got upset that her son got a vaccination because his father allowed it without her and she was apparently yelling about it for *hours*
I needed a blood transfusion when I was a baby and I had Jehovah’s Witness foster parents when I was nine. I’m not sure they knew about this though.
@@deebee153 I thought JWs aren't allowed to marry outsiders? (genuine question)
In the first clip, you seem to have missed one detail. The money was to "help our brothers". They weren't trying to help all of the hurricane victims; only the JW ones.
and only the male ones :- )
@@istvansipos9940 no because brothers is used as a general term that includes women, like saying “mankind” it means everybody not just males
@@tuvalu636 or they are simply just biblical: Women don't matter, unless you need somebody to blame.
I was kidding in my first comment, by the way. As the :- ) shows it.
I'd swear Caleb and Sophia's eyes get larger and more expressive in every episode.
Their eye sockets must be the size of manhole covers.
@@kayanneyoung9788 in the first episode Caleb has no soul
Working at a bank, the button in a piggy bank doesn’t surprise me. We had buttons, hair pins, even one time a whole bullet was found in the bank coin machine 😂
LOL!!
Yep. I didn't do it intentionally and I still ended up with bobby pins in my piggy bank. 😂
Oh man. Sophia can get an entire double scoop on a cone for just one silver coin?! Imagine what you could do with 30 of those bad boys!
Edit: I have been corrected and my joke makes far more sense.
8 dollars 25 cents would equal a 66 scoop cone! Delicious!
did you mean 30?
Thirty pieces of silver was the price for which Judas Iscariot betrayed Jesus, according to an account in the Gospel of Matthew 26:15 in the New Testament.
well, you can be the MOST important dude in the plan of the g0d WHILE earning money. Crisschunz really should celebrate judas :- )
@@istvansipos9940 Ah nuts, I did mean 30. I don't know why I had it in my head as 33. Thank you.
Sophia should have went for the ice cream cone, in my humble opinion.
Ice cream is awesome!
@@OmegaRiley maybe they gave Judas a tip?
As someone who has had a bad/traumatic experience with an elderly man, the making sacrifices episode gives me mixed feelings.
Damn what are you getting at
If I was a kid and we had to pick up an old man from the meeting and take him to his house I would probably cry so much that he would feel embarrassed and leave.
@@Bubbafanforeverwhy? Because of the reason the original commenter said, trauma?
This was just said without context, which is why I'm asking.
@@morganc.m1830 because as a kid I hated people, especially ones in the congregation. I didn’t know any of the elders personally, so picking up an old man from the congregation automatically would mean that he would be a stranger. I hated having to talk to people in the congregation, and I hate having my time wasted if my family had to pick up an old man I didn’t know, and then drive him to his house to help him out, I wouldn’t be able to handle it and I’d cry.
I understand your experience was traumatic, but I still don't think that's a reason to generalize and put all old people into the category of "creep". You'll be old one day, what about then?
If this sounds offensive, I'm not trying to be, and I greatly apologize if that's the case, but it seems a bit off to assume someone is a certain way just becuase they're at a certain age.
Unless you mean old people who are part of a Jehovah's Witnesses congregation, I wouldn't touch them with a 10 foot pole so I understand you there.
Mind you, I 100% understand if the elderly people you're talking about are J.W.'s. Those types of people deserve nothing, no matter their age, becuase they're just a bunch of cultists in a pyramid scheme. I get that. But hating people in general without even giving them a chance is wrong. Giving people a chance doesn't mean being naive. You can give someone a chance and still be ready to punch them and run away if they start acting suspicious. Refusing to give an old person a lift via your car simply because they're old shows you don't have any sense of perspective. If you were old and your legs suddenly gave out (Which happens to old people very often), wouldn't YOU ask for help as well?
As a kid I had to learn that you don't NEED to give your money away to charity, and that I could sometimes be selfish and do and buy stuff for myself in order to be happy, too. I wanted to be like Jesus, but I had to realise that wasn't feasible because it always would be at my expense.
My family had no Jesus - my grandma was raised as a Catholic as was the custom but she was 80 and still a bit embarrassed to say 'there is no God like that!' but I still understood the need to sometimes give to others. My mum was poor but she still gave our old clothes to even poorer folk and fed all my friends, bought me candy when she herself was hungry - no Jesus involved, just caring about others - and I still value the lesson and give whenever possible. However, forcing a child to always give makes an adult who is easily taken advantage of .. there is zero respect for folks who do it like that. It's like molding your child into a doormat, I'm pretty sure J. or no other authority meant it like that...
There will always be people in need, and no one person will ever have enough to help everyone. We have to pick and choose our battles and find ways to help that don't involve decimating ourselves. We have to stay mentally healthy also which means the occasional treat or whatever. We can't give it all away. It's not selfish to treat yourself.
My father, who was a dedicated JW Elder was still thoughtful. Due to the constant request/begging for money I felt I should do my part but I had a big problem. I only had coins and since the contribution box was wooden I was concerned about making a noise when I dropped my coins in and unnecessarily bringing attention to myself. So I spoke to my Dad as he always had the right answers.
My father told me that it was a nice thought to contribute but as he was the head of the family, it was his responsibility to ensure that adequate funds were contributed and this he did on behalf of us all. Also, the money was pocket money from him and it was not intended for it to be contributed but was for us to enjoy.
I wonder how he would have felt seeing this cartoon.
I did not know it matters to watch beginning to end, good info.
At age 12 I determined I did not subscribe to the deity delusion telling my parents I did not want to attend church with my family. They agreed with no drama. I was given chores to do in their absence.
I am 66 now and have never been inclined to change my belief on this matter.
Honestly I wish parents were understanding of their children
I also stopped attending at age 12 with no drama. Unfortunately not everyone has reasonable parents like ours.
@@F0rev3r.B0red That is a crime in Texas, Florida and possibly Arkansas if your child demonstrates and report they do not identify with their gender. It happens rarely but it does happen. So as a parent what are you going to do?
@@Mark-gg6iy I may misinterpret your question entirely but good communication with your child should give them a good understanding when they want to admit secrets to the adults because they trust them. States having to enforce a law about gender has nothing to do with having a good relationship with your child. No law should interfere with your child's happiness and safety since this mainly concerns not choosing to go to church and forcing them will only incentivize their decisions a.k.a going against their parents decisions out of spite. It goes both ways for people who are religious and those of non religious backgrounds and cultures. Eventually your kids aren't supposed to be mini versions of you but their own people as adults. But again if I didn't understand your question my bad in advance.
Its super weird that Jesus is whiter than Caleb & Sophia in these videos. I guess JWs dont understand where he was from either.
magic. Never forget magic. Everything is possible with magic. Well, only with the magic of tha lawrd, for the shape shifting of Zeus (for example) is just magic, and magic ain't not no real.
(English butchered for illustrative purposes)
@@istvansipos9940 this is Christian not Greek mythical gods
@@quandal1633 yes. And magic is magic is magic. It does not matter which fairy tale we pick. Well, it kinda does. There are those ugly, disgustingly racist, rapist, genocidal fairy tales, but from the magical aspect, it really does not matter.
Jesus would have had a better tan if went out and got a job in the fields.
@@istvansipos9940 - LOVE the 'butchery'!
Caleb: "My piggybank was empty... I guess I can't help..."
Dad: "There's many ways you can help, son. Being sickeningly adorable always helps."
I don't recall Mr. Crabs being a religious figure in Spongebob?
He probably prayed to his money lol
Wilfred literally a villain, pointing out what a beautiful day it is to children he knows will be forced into chores. Like bro, what a boofhead
"Does Jehovah want you to have ice cream?"
"Uhh no?"
"That's right! And do you know why Jehovah doesn't want you to have ice cream?"
"Be...cause Jehovah loves us?"
"That's right."
Pretty much could be exactly the dialogue and it wouldn't shock me.
I feel like the worst thing about the first giving money section is that when disasters happen, it is very human to want to help, especially for children who don't understand the world so well yet. But instead of using the money that kids do want to donate, they use it for dumb stuff like the compounds and building congregation buildings over and over. Like, when the Ukraine-Russia conflict started, I wanted to go and help in any way I could, but I'm an adult. A child could go "oh I'll send them my money for restoration efforts or relocation for the refugees!" but then donate their money to a place that will never use their money for the intended reason.
What year is it, in Caleb and Sophia land? I want t ho know where you can get two scoops of ice cream for a quarter!
I love how Dad just invites the guy without even telling, much less asking his wife first. But its not like theyre actually people with lives or anything!
Well said, Jeanette!!!
Lowest of the low. Guilting little kids into parting with their change. Why do I have a feeling their father checks weekly to see what change got or did not get put in their piggy banks.
As an exmormon, I especially hate this. These organizations do NOT use the money the way their members think they do.
I never got the concept of giving your money to preachers as "charity"... Since we know it mostly goes to making preachers rich.
In fact so-called charities that just keep all or most of the money should be illegal. It's dishonest and slimy 😒
They should absolutely have to be up front where the money is going and all the paperwork be public. If they aren't being honest, and/or are keeping too much of the money for themselves they should lose any charity status.
It's a noble trait to want help others, but as En Vouge said "I give to the needy, not the greedy". And it should never be forced.
I can't lie, I thought the sound of Caleb's ball deflating was the old man farting at first XD
* mr crabs laugh
Money 💰
Argh argh argh!
Money! Money! Money! Money!
AGAHDHXHXHXDHXH
MONEY MONEY MONEY
agkagkagkagkagkagkagk
I surprised he has a dinosaur as a bank.
but a created one, NOT an evolved one :- )
So she could have used the change and got some food for a homeless...nope let's build a building and get more panphlets 🙄
I feel comfortable enough saying as I’m LGBT, but the gayer it looks the more likely I’d call it prancing and Sophia looked as gay as you can get so definitely prancing here.
I feel like Sophia-is-a-lesbian is fanon at this point. I see SO many people say it and that she looks like she'll be disfellowdhipped at some point and go to college
am I the only one that noticed during the old guy episode, the Dad didn't discuss it with Mom to make sure she was OK with helping this random stranger out too? Just have the guy plop in and the Dad pretty much with the attitude of 'we are helping this guy, screw your plans?'
Most women in JW can’t have plans. They look to the head of the household for everything, and it’s against their beliefs to argue against it.
But they did make the face of the mom look like she didn't feel happy about it, for a moment at least, when he plopped in the car she put on a certain face, meaning that the makers of this animation(s series) acknowledge to know that a wife might not feel so happy about such a thing, or about anything for that matter, happening without her consenting to it as well, they just find it important to show that the wife can and does feel unhappy about it, only for a very short moment or at least it's only for a very short moment readable on her face, so they can also show how she does not say a word about how she feels about something that her husband happens to have decided and how she just goes along with it, because anything her husband says flies, and so they can also show the man (husband, father) to not care about that and to not ask her anything, all this is meant to set an example,
@@Notendop90 Yeah the wife is expected to be subservient. She couldn't say "But what about the kids's planned trip to the park? We planned this before you just up and changed it!"
God be like, "as easy as taking ice cream from a baby!"
Why does Caleb sound like a maraca when he nods? 😂
They replaced his brain with marbles.
Those are the rocks in his head
They only want to give to the brothers? What about the sisters?
They use the term “brothers” as a general term which includes sisters as well. A bit like saying “mankind”, that includes women also.
The women don't have any rights unless their husband gives them rights.
At least that's how this cartoon depicts the relationship.
it is a biblical thing. Women don't matter. Unless you need somebody to blame. F.e. we know the name of Adam's wife. We don't know the name of Mrs Noah.
@@istvansipos9940 "Unless you need somebody to blame"
Both Marys, Martha, Rahab, Sarah, etc: "am I a joke to you?"
@@headphonesaxolotl exceptions. Now imagine a movie where only a handful of Homo Sapiens survive a zoo adventure on a global ocean and you DON'T get the names of the females. Where our female ancestors are ALL nameless baby making machines. yeah, the g00d b00k 0f the g0d.
luckily, magic can still work in it.
Sophia is more prancing than moseying.
This isn't just a Jehovah's Witness experience. I grew up Baptist, and I can remember as a kid feeling incredibly embarrassed whenever I didn't have any money for tithe, because they wired us as children to feel bad and ashamed if we didn't donate money because that means you aren't a TRUE christian, because JESUS would have given everything he had and more
Growing up, my grandfather would give me and my brother the occasional quarter or half dollar, and I noticed that mine always managed to "disappear" no matter where I put it in my bedroom. Only years later did it occur to me what was happening, after a conversation I had with my mother who by that time was dying from cancer. She was sneaking into my room when I wasn't there, taking all the money of mine she found and handing it over that Sunday at the Kingdom Hall. I reckon the only reason she didn't also do this to my brother was she and my father practically worshipped my brother, whereas I was abused by both my brother and my mother. I can't thank you enough for exposing that truly satanic cult. I was raised in that wicked cult and at 67 I still carry the scars from what it did to my family.
I’m so sorry.
I'm always proud of my kids when they donate to charity instead of buying something they want but I also always look into the charity and have the kids look into it as well being fore they decide
I grew up Mormon, and there are a LOT of similarities. They had Don Bluth making animated episodes of Bible and BoM stories back then, dunno if they still make those anymore. Completely monopolizing the time of your congregation is extremely important in keeping them under control, never asking questions about where all that money goes to, or having time or energy to have any unique thoughts. It is absolutely ghoulish to expect children to give up their money and precious time to a cause they never had a choice in being apart of.
I can't believe I did this but when I was in college a hundred or so years ago a JW came to my college apartment door. I was really desperate at that stage of my life so I talked to her. She came back the next day with a hunky young man. They talked to me and then gave me literature and ASKED ME TO PAY FOR IT. Oh geez- I knew that it was weird and told them so and told them not to come back. They never showed up again. What I find humorous now is that when I was young JWs were considered really 'out there'...now they seem to be rather mild when I listen to all the bizarre crap religions are spewing nowadays.
"WHAT IS THE DAD'S ACCENT??" screams in my head with every one of these videos you cover. Lol
It could be Israeli
Macedonian
He’s really Dracula!
Sophia was definitely not moseying to the ice cream seller. That was . . . . I dunno, fairy dancing? Float-skipping? It was a bit too whimsical and graceful to be just prancing.
OMG---they just get Scumier and Slimier. This cult was always manipulative, as I think back but they've taken it to a whole new level. So great to be out.
I once took lessons from JWs. I had to have somebody tell them I didn't want to join, and to stop comming. I had just left the Mormon church. I was vulnerable.
That's what they look for. Sometimes they check the obituarys for grieving people to preach at.
16:10 “is he gonna make a table or something” that’s one of the funniest things I’ve heard today. Great video as always!
"And Jesus steps off the boat."
That's not Jesus. That's some white dude who just came from SuperCuts.
HA!!!!!!!!
"And thus, the Icecream seller went out of buissnes due to a lack of costumers. Now out of a job, they were unable to provide for their family. They had to mive out of their house, their kids no longer could go to the best school, and feeling hungry became the norm. In the end the kids had to drop out in order to find job of their own to feed the family, the Icecream seller started drinking out of guilt, and their partner ended up divorcing them. Years later, the poor Icecream seller took their own life, their children estranged and their partner long gone. If only Sophia had shown some generosity and given the poor seller her buissnes..."
The way Caleb looked scared for barely nudging a photo tho
I have an honest question. How do these JW families survive on the salary of a window washer? Considering the state of the economy these days and the fact that most states don't even average over 50$ a year? It feels like these families would be heavily reliant on charity from their church to even survive, even if both parents work.
8:35 So, do they have their own grocery stores? Is that just at the HQ or is that something that congregations in towns in other states have access to? I'm interested in this system of food distribution.
Someone needs to tell all the Caleb and Sophia's of the organization that they need to hide their money to fund their escape from the witnessing life.
I’m glad my parents never forced me into any kind of religion. Unfortunately, I follow the bastards until I decided to become an apostate. Best decision ever.
I'm glad that my parents never forced me into being atheist.
@@robinrobyn1714 yeah. now you can accept 1 type of magic while rejecting all the other types of equally proven magic. Good for you.
by the way, most atheist parents simply don't talk about deities and the supernatural.
@@istvansipos9940 I don't believe in magic. Only ignorant trash compare Theology with magic. By the way, it's intrinsic to what it means to be a Human Being, engaging in religion. Mankind has engaged in the Theological Experience since as far back as Upper Paleolithic times and continues to do so, in the billions around the world. Only ignorant trash are too stupid to understand that.
@@istvansipos9940 Robin didn't say anything about monotheism. Maybe accepts any number of magical beings.
@@JohnDlugosz fair point. And the fun point: Even in that case, Robin rejects the vast majority of magical beings. Because magic is not real :- ) Only real magic is real.
First I want to thank you Owen, I just love your viewpoints. I grew up in the 60's and learned the truth about the Catholic church and organized religion. When my dad lost his job at 50 and a WW2 vet, they literally called him and asked how come you havent turned in your envelopes for several weeks. I was horrified that they cared more about his money than his well being. How very sickened I was that they used his "faith" for their gain. I have seen Jehovahs use a little girl to knock on doors that had toys outside just to harass the parents who answered. Even at a friends baby baptism they were asked to sign a petition to ban the LGBTQ community. Wow how very insulting, especially when you preach an all loving "god". Everyone has a right to believe in whatever religion they decide to, but forcing it on someone else is wrong. Just look back into history and how it seems that greed, evil, and force, have destroyed so many cultures and innocence just for cruelty, power and profit.I have only seen hipocrasy, none of these organized religions practice what they seem to preach, it truly is a shame. If everyone was the same nobody would learn anything. You are such a breath of fresh air and I apprieciate your hard work. Thanks again and always stay true to who you are.
I'm catholic and my dad's side of the family were JWs, and I used to go to the kingdom hall on Sundays and watch these Caleb and Sophia videos. I once heard my mom say that she couldn't go back to kingdom hall after what they did to my father. She provided no further context to this and knowing that it's a cult scares me to death about what could've possibly happened, thank you for exposing these people !!
You should follow through and file a lawsuit against the employer that refused to hire you because you were dis fellowshiped, that's a civil rights violation, refusing to hire someone based on religions beliefs, I'm sure a attorney will take that case at no cost, until a settlement was paid.
I agree.
nah the employer would just say "We didn't hire them for" (non religious reason here!) or "We didn't hire him because another person was a better fit"
You should know that the organisation hasn’t been self sufficient for decades now. They used to have Watchtower Farms but these were done away with a long time ago because it wasn’t cost effective.
That looked like featureman they were giving a ride 😂
I remember regularly tithing when I was a kid and remember how good it felt to hear that "clank" of coin in the bottom of the metal bucket. It's a sound that haunts me now. Grew up to realize how scummy it was that such a famous big name church was still taking money from people even though I know they're getting great funding and are pastored by a very well off family.
Funnily enough, I HATED tithing. I wanted nothing more than to keep that money. A few times, I did 😂
I think another insidious thing about the final one is that the dad just tells the family "okay we're helping this guy now" without giving them ANY notice. In general, that's kind of how people tend to treat kids which always frustrated me growing up, that you can spend all day with a certain expectation for what your day will be like but you have no control if it changes. (And then they frame it as the kid "making a sacrifice" as if he has any say in the matter). But the dad also didn't consult his wife at all and she just has to smile and go along with it. Which I'm sure is how wives are expected to act. But imo even if you are already certain your partner and family will agree with something you should at least show some courtesy and run it by them first.
Yep. I "donated" my allowance to the church during lent. My whole $2 that I only got if I did every chore to total satisfaction. Which is pretty hard as a child.
Why didn't he send the button, then Jesus could use his magic zombie powers to turn the button into a coin?
He said I hope this doesn't ruin your plans... It looks like it really kind of is. I mean we need to help older people, or sick people but..
If only Caleb and Sophia were allowed to speak their minds!
Question: when you give aid relief through their organization, do you get a tax return for that? I don't know how it works in America, but up in Canada, if you donate to charity, it's deducted off your taxes, so long as you give a receipt to the person who does your taxes so that you can prove it. Does this kind of thing have that benefit, at least?
JW's would be exempt from charitable tax write-offs for their organization, because in America, churches don't pay taxes. In theory this is great, because it's supposed to uphold the principle of separation of church and state. In practice, religions still try to work their way into politics.
God's all powerful, all knowing, all seeing, all present, all wise but *click* just can't handle money.
Prancing for sure. "Moseying" i see more as walking at a relaxed pace in a general direction... She was acting like a literal fairy, so prancing.
this almost reminds me of when I was growing up. my mom was a lot like this. except I grew up in the LDS Mormon religion. there really isn't much of a difference in how you do things and what you do. just the belief is different really. and i mean everything was the same. i also couldn't friend outsiders. there were a lot of Church activities to attend. also, when I became a decan in the LDS church i had to go to members' homes to teach the word of God. that was to prepare us as Mormon missionaries. which I never went on. i left the church before that. my mom was not happy. but she got over it after some years. I'm her place now in fact for a Sunday dinner.
I had church stuff all the time as a kid. Saturday, Sunday, and Wednesday. Sometimes Friday. Also with taekwondo and dance class, biking, homework, chores and even summer camps with church. Very busy as a kid. Not so much anymore, thankfully.
Owen: a button (or slug) in the piggy bank is to replace a coin that was taken out, so it still rattles and doesn't betray that the money had been removed.
Never understood why god needs money.
I notice they said "our brothers" affected by the hurricane...not just "people." They mean only other JWs
Honestly if I was a kid watching this the propaganda part would just completely go over my head and I would just be like “oh wow what a lovely story”
The idea that young children are being told that they need to sacrifice the things they enjoy (which are important in order to help fully develop their sense of self) in order to fund an organisation that already has more money than justifiable genuinely devastates me. These kids miss out on so much of their childhoods.
you can only stop it by talking talking to the young kids and tell them that there is a world outside the rules and obligations. Their parents is too far gone and they wont change their mind.
Remember to take it easy and if you feel that its getting worse its better to step back and drop it before it goes serious south.
Information is power to change their life in such a way so they can live happy, You cant tell them to do as you say but you can plant a seed in their mind that will grow into a decision and a positive change over time.
Did you skip a whole chunk of the sentence? Because this sentence is confusing.
@@morganc.m1830 yeah I made a mistake while writing. Sometimes I do that and not realise I didn't actually write everything I thought I did
currently stuck in jw cuz they've managed to get into my mom's head, im around the ages of 10-14 (wont specify) and man its hard pretending i believe in all this shit but what can i do 🤷 some stuff already happened between my parents, but thanks to those stupid letters there's no chance of me ever having a normal childhood :/
shit would be so much easier if i could just forcibly rewire myself to fit their beliefs
@@Mintea_-ou2mj Do the best of the time you have left, when you are 18 you can move out and get a good life. You cant help your mom if she decide to stay with JW but you can talk to the creator and he can help you with a few good tips.
He left JW when was young and know what it takes to get your life back.
I love how Caleb also wants your regular viewers to watch the whole way through 😂😂😂😂
my church was like this i used to be christian (not anymore btw) but instead the church would go around with a basket you would put money in the basket and they would give you a candy of choice it was always $1.00 exactly
I genuinely tend to leave videos kind of quickly, I have a really bad attention span (probably undiagnosed adhd, as well as other stuff I've been diagnosed with lol), but your little cut ins genuinely help my brain be like "Oh, something's happening, it's not one long thing,". I haven't clicked off a video of yours since you started doing it, so I guess it's working lol.
I do too! I'm Dyspraxic and suspect I have undiagnosed ADHD too.
WT can be likened to the bank scene in Mary Poppins. Every penny is needed to expand their coffers.
The tuppence would be better spent feeding the birds. "tuppence a bag".
@@deebee153 that brings back memories, loved that song, thanks
@@deebee153I agree!
Singing: feed the birds, tuppence a bag!
@@yvonne3903beautiful song!
@@cheneethompson5756 yes 😊
Very similar to the messages I heard as a kid growing up Mormon. Criminal.
Jehova's Witness church is pocketing all of that "donation" money
Watchtower is DANGEROUS
Im Jewish, and our synagoge was raising money for the victims of the california wildfires back in 2019. They listed the exact organization they were giving the money to, and nobody was forced to donate. I gave them $20, which was not ll of my money.
I lived with my grandmother growing up and she is a Jehovah's Witness. I remember when the brothers and sisters would go around and fix up or build new kingdom halls. Yes it was all volunteer work but I never once heard about anyone going other's houses that were effected by hurricanes or tornados and fixing or building them new houses. It was always "pray to Jehovah and he will help bless them." I always hated hearing that. So glad I never got baptized and got out of there.
I went to a JW meeting once and it was so weird, they all had weird smiles and an interesting talking voice
Your excatly correct!!!! As an ex Baptist Christian I gave a lot of my pocket money to the church, Blessed Be.
I have had family members put buttons in coin jars because the buttons popped off, and they didn't pay attention to what all goes into the jar. Once had an uncle put my aunts needle threader that looks like a coin into a coin jar.
It's also funny how the poor are always getting demands of people wanting donations as the richer people i see say no to even tipping.
Question...I know you said to watch from start to finish... Which I do but not in one setting... So,
If I start the video and pause it and then go back in like 2 hours to finish it and do finish.... Does that watch behavior effect the channel negatively? Watching is the only way I can support right now so just wondering if the way I watch is alright.
Thanks for all the videos and stuff. Your content is awesome!
11:10 notice how quiet the mother becomes when a man enters the car? I think it might be that jehovahs witnesses encourage women not to speak in situations like this and instead the husband speaks. Subtle but definitely intentional.
Plus, the whole 'give it to the BROTHERS' because why give money to women? The manfolk need the money to take care of their women. Women have fathers and husbands, they don't need money.
The kids don't seem to have a voice either. "Dad, I don't feel safe having to sit in the backseat with this old man that I don't know"
"How dare you say that,we need to help the people around us and make sacrifices!"
I mean, Caleb is clearly not comfortable when the man gets in the car and is visibly disappointed/upset/mad because they won't go to the park. He's entitled to those feelings but his parents totally disregarded their son's very valid feelings in favor of doing something that will make their God happy. That's not okay.
Caleb didn't make the choice to help that man, his dad did. But apparently, the rest of the family is supposed to just blindly obey the "head of thd household" like their opinions and feelings don't and shouldn't matter.
@@uu-ek2mg exactly
I’m so glad I found your channel… now I can be more aware of such people. Unfortunately tho i have a literal Jehovah witness building near my school which infuriates me. I hope they take it down or maybe turn it into something better.
as i Christian i legit cannot believe that a CHURCH would indoctrinate like this. churches are optional, not supposed to be forced upon impressionable adolescents.
No one becomes a Christian because of logic and reason. All religions indoctrinate children to some extent. Some are more overt than others.
Caleb's gigantic head never ceases to freak me out.
I would love to see a video about the JW Compound that everyone lives in!!
My parents taught me to save money so I could save it in a bank account. We were still allowed to spend our allowances, but we were given choices and allowed to learn about taking care of ourselves. We also did volunteer things and helped buy holiday gifts for needy families and other charity. Kids like C&S are so young that it really seems ridiculous to make them shell out their nickels and dimes for someone else... :/
Here's what I've been doing...I download the video and like immediately. Then, I listen with my aftershocks at night. ❤️
I hope it helps....if there's something else I can do let me know, Owen.