Where Is God in Places of Pain? | John Lennox at Cornell
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- John Lennox (Oxford) and moderator Rosemary Avery (Cornell) discuss how we make sense of suffering in light of religious faith. | Cornell University, 2013 | View full forum at • Reason in a Place of P... | Explore more at www.veritas.org.
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I have never understood the question Why does God allow suffering ? Perhaps I am missing something. From the begining Adam and Eve made a choice. They could respect what God told them they could do, and the one thing they could not do.
God even pointed out in advance what the consequences would be for them both .
Still they each chose, Eve decided to trust the Serpent, Eve allowed herself to be deceived. And Adam did what Eve told him to do. Eat.
What is at the core of Man's endless questions around why, God allows suffering.
Is it God's fault there is Mass Poverty .
Oppresion. Hardships. Or is it Man's?
It is uncomfortable to suffer.
However reading Isaiah 52 " The LORD'S suffering servant..." Isaiah 53 " for he was struck down for the rebellion of my people . He had done no wrong..... It was the LORD'S good plan to crush him and cause him grief...".
Being brought to our knees for unknown lenghts of time and purpose is uncomfortable and hard.
But Jesus has walked that road we can have fellowship with him in our sufferings. Knowing experientially Jesus felt even more pain and did so for our sakes....
There is no love without freedom and respect.. That's why there is suffering...
@@oktober06 there can be much love where there is no freedom - think of Apostle Paul in chains, imprisoned, or Jesus Christ carrying his cross, beaten, whipped, for our freedom from the price for sin. The Holocaust, no freedom there no respect, people hoping, praying struggling , suffering . Yet deep kinships formed. Care.
Love is not absent when freedom and respect is .
God allows us to experience hardships, takes us to the brink of our resources, because of His Love. Thank you for your comment though.
All Hindus do is blame their suffering on karma and that it will be resolved in an innumerable number of lifetimes to correct it. That's called kicking the can down the street.
I love CS Lewis but I have to disagree with the statement that mental pain is worse than physical pain. Far too black and white a statement. Continuous extreme physical pain can be harder to bear than some forms of mental pain.
Each kind of suffering has points to be made for their severity. Many physical pains can be cured. [Unfortunately old age, with the problems of the body slowly shutting down, is incurable short of death.] Psychological pain can be cured too, but the person suffering from it, being unwilling to allow the emotional pain to come to the surface, needlessly prolongs their mental anguish. Often a case of 'not to decide is to decide' to do something or not, to seek help or not. Good therapists, with willing subjects, can work wonders. But therapy is not an exact science, and not every practitioner is sufficiently good at it, and those in therapy, especially if made to be there against their will, will probably not get better, good therapist or not.
The possibility of turning to the spirit fragment of God within for help, where God does have answers, makes room for the possibility that inspiration will occur and solutions can be found for either kind of suffering.
John Lennox, the king of bloviation.