As someone who wants to be a monster designer, I find it somewhat difficult to capture "Good Horror" in a design, Ive only ever made one monster design that scared me personally, and it was a creature that simply lived in your home without you knowing and watched you. That was it. It fascinates me how uncomfortable this simple design made me, compared to other, more directly gruesome things. Although, I have struggled to replicate these feelings, but your videos always help me think.
I think it worked so well due to how much it leaves stuff to your mind and the fact it can be real. If there indeed was a thing that just lived inside your home and watched you without you knowing you, obviously, wouldnt know. It can be inside your home watching you read this and you wouldnt have a idea
@@KaptanTsubasa-ic3wd I agree, he freaks me out even today. That last part of your comment made me uncomfortable actually, which is always great. I just want to find more fears that evoke the same sense of discomfort.
@@dr.happyfuntimes1214 I wish I could but I dont have him posted anywhere sadly. Hes very humanoid, with a bulbous, massive eyeball swelling from his gaping, stretched mouth . It has this gross gullet covered in fingers, and growths of eyes along his body, his spine arches and breaks through portions of his skin. He has dark, uneven messy hair that drapes down one side of his face, hes the size of a normal guy but he crawls everywhere, and will fit into any space, with no concern for any harm coming to himself, as his want to watch is so strong he dosent care. The longer he watches you, the closer he tries to get, over the span of weeks maybe months, until he is less than an inch away from you. Once you see him he simply leaves and runs away, never returning, if you corner him though and he has no escape, he gets violent.
I like being unsettled and creeped out rather than outright scared. Jumpscares are nice but all they do is make me...well, jump. Give me something that makes me feel like I might actually be in danger, and I'm there for it.
exactly, a well made and immersive atmosphere is so much more valuable to me than just gory stuff or a simple build up to a jumpscare, those just don't do anything to me anymore
I’m reminded of the distinction some people have made between _Horror_ and _Terror: Terror_ is what happens when we feel as though we could be confronted within something awful at any moment; _Horror_ is what we feel after the awful thing is revealed. I also like Alfred Hitchcock’s illustration of the distinction between ‘surprise’ and ‘suspense’: _Surprise_ is what happens if you show a scene of an ordinary dinner party and then suddenly a bomb goes off under the table; _Suspense_ is what happens if you _show_ the audience the bomb ticking away under the table while you watch the same ordinary dinner scene.
To the two guys commenting: no they dont. They ARE supposed to be separate genres. But Hollywood is so lazy that they always put anything remotely "scary" or "bloody" as Horror/Thriller. Look at the tags in any of those slasher movies or any horror movie. Its ALL the same two tags regardless of how shitty or good the movie is. The Horror/Thriller tags is rotten now
@@themeemqueen thats part of the problem, the other problem is streaming services also dont do this type of genre separation. They are all complicit in slapping 100 tags on every movie to get audiences to watch as much of their stuff as possible. Literally every single service does this. Hell anime is more selective with its tags. So you have a compounding multistage problem: the movies produced market themselves as multiple genres to attract as much attention as possible, streaming services also market all these movies as multiple genres with a million tags, society itself has been so braindead with tags (just look at the tags for any twitter, instagram, or youtube video. There's always a million tags). Its a huge societal issue that most likely will never be addressed and it muddies the water of what the differences between entertainment are. Horror, thriller, psychological, slasher. These should all be fairly distinct but nowadays its all slapped onto damn near every movie its just sad
Psychological horror is my favorite. It may not be as scary on the surface, but the more you unravel the layers, the more appalled you become. Because it may seem typical, but it’s actually so deeply twisted that it messes with you Edit: hi everyone! Thanks for contributing to the lovely discussion down below. If you have any specific recommendations for books/movies/stories with psychological horror or horror you just enjoy, please comment it! :)
A mix of psychological horror and any other kind of horror is always scary, like the boiled ones phenomenon, it's scary because it has religion in it and the thought that many of its victims may have been kids since it appeared on a channel made for kids in the lore
I watched the Mandela catalog and wasn’t scared, then I thought about it for a bit, then I was terrified, psychological horror is 100% the scariest form of horror
Same here, most visual horror doesn't really do it for me. Psychological horror I like because it's the things you can't see that I find most horrifying. A scary concept or idea is way worse than any crazy dude with a knife.
Slavic mythology has Lady Midday, and she encapsulates the creepiness of open, dusty fields in full, scorching sun perfectly. To think she might kill you with a heatstroke, make you mad, or force you to dance for hours. Everyone expects something bad to happen at night, but not when it's bright and seeminly peaceful.
summer in texas, the last few years especially, gives me this feeling constantly. I feel like I have seasonal affective disorder but for summer instead of winter here
it wasn't great per se but this is what made midsommar somewhat interesting. to be fair it did have pretty unsettling points. but the persistent brightness of it helped a lot
One thing that I've realized as someone who was raised consuming horror media; cultural horror is scarier to me than most of the things I see in television. I'm not scared of gore, jump scares, even non-cliche movies don't really hit me hard. But hearing my grandpa tell me horror stories as a kid and treating them like they were real terrified me. I'm scared of ghost stories till this day, specially when people add realism. My grandparents used to tell me to never whistle in the woods, to leave an area I'm in if it's dead quiet, to never run in the woods, and to never stare for too long into the foliage because you don't know what's staring back. Those kinds of things practically handed nightmares to me on a silver platter. Specially as a kid who lived in a ranch next to dense forests for my entire childhood.
I'd never heard the phrase "cultural horror" used this way before. Thanks for adding to my vocabulary. I agree wholeheartedly that fear penetrates much deeper when it's personal. Narratives keep me distanced from horror movies because all the horror happens to the characters, not to me. The 4th wall remains comfortably intact. I like the way you describe your family's ghost stories. You reminded me of a book I read years ago when I was a kid, North South East West, a collection of cultural tales from around the world. The scary story section chilled me to my bones like little else had or has since, especially one story within a story of someone telling a class full of kids about to get out of school for summer how a worker in a factory fell into one of the giant vats and got chopped up by the blades before anyone could help him. THAT is fear-inducing to me. If you have any more stories to share, I'd love to hear them! Thanks for making me think.
@@geisterbilder Hey man I'm really glad you took an interest to it! I'm from Brazil and my grandfather is native Brazilian, and the thing with Brazilian horror is that it can be very unpredictable, contrary to American horror which follows a very particular narrative pattern. I won't be speaking for all of Brazil, but at least from how I see it, it is a culture where there is no clear threshold between what is alive and what is dead (spiritually speaking). The people in the area I lived don't go to haunted houses, because we know what it's like to get involved where we're not invited. Unfortunately I don't have any stories, specially because my family never told them as stories, they told them as if they were warnings, casual warnings non the less. They told them as if they were obvious, well known rules. I remember once they put my fear of the dark into a whole other level; The ranch we lived in when I was a child was practically inside the 'Serra Do Mar' mountains (a mountain range that spans across 4 states). As most children do, I had chores. One of my main chores was feeding our dogs, who stayed in a cannel during the night. After I was done feeding them I realized I left the door to our house wide open, I guess I forgot to close it. In many households and cultures in South America, leaving the door to your house wide open at night attracts bad omens, but I grew up as a skeptic, I didn't (and still don't tbh) believe that anything bad would happen. After I walked back inside, I talked to my mom after she got out of the shower, I told her that I left the door front open on accident while feeding our dogs. that night, and every night for a week after that, she made sure neither of us or our cat left our rooms once the lights in the house turned off. And keep in mind I was about 10 years old at the time, so for a week I was terrified of my own shadow. I hear of people who run up the stairs in their house after turning off the lights, but can you imagine the feeling of being a little kid and not being allowed to turn off any lights in the house if I was alone for a week straight? I wasn't allowed to feed my dogs at night anymore lol, my mom gave me the morning shift. What terrified me the most is the fact that there was no description of what my mom thought went into the house. I didn't know if it was a 'monster' or if it was simply some 'Premunition' ammount of bad luck, and I don't know that till this day. I could always ask her, or my grandparents, but I think I'd rather not know. Not because I think it's real, but because even if that situation scared me to my core, it is still a treasured memory from my childhood, and I'd rather not ruin it by being told the chupacabra ran into my house or something lmao. I'd rather stay oblivious and think it was some mystical horror beyond human comprehension or something, because it sounds more fun.
@@geisterbilder4th wall… hmm yeah i have seen some that broke the fourth wall and its awesome! There was one called “the last horror movie” ( i think it was around 2005)
@@Banished-rx4ol RIGHT!! jumpscares everywhere makes the movie predictable and it's like the writers can't go past the "ooooh scary ghost boo" and actually dive into real horror.
My fave concept is like you make a minor mistake and then the consequences are astronomical. Scares me to death. Gruesome accidents that happen in a split second unsettle me more than anything in movie form. I'm more afraid of the idea that anything could happen in the chaos of existence than I am of like a person or being that is identifiable.
so true, its why i hated 1000 ways to die as a kid lol, ive always been very anxious about such things. i remember as a kid i would always calculate where my head would fall if i where to trip while walking or standing somewhere, always making sure i stood near enough to other objects for most of my body to fall on top of them or far away enough to hit the ground. i had a huge fear that if i tripped i would hit my neck on the side of a chair or table and be paralized for life lol
To me it’s making a small decision that goes out of your everyday life, like taking a different route than you usually do, how one small decision could end you in seconds
@@lapizcata6930 and there are categories and norms. We are all humans living in the same day and age experiencing the same horror movies and games. AndJust like anything there is a majority and a minority. You may be part of the minority. Some people are mentally handicapped and others grew up on the Gaza Strip so Obviously we all have different fears and perceptions. But this is a niche video for a specific group of people who have probably already thought about horror being desensitized.
Weirdly enough I experience this in a very backwards manner. Jumpscares and thriller content fills me with dread and anticipation, while more psychological horror intrigues, interests and doesn’t leave me too scared. Yes it does make the darkness in my room a little less approachable, but it does not hinder my sleep lol.
I think that's why analog horror has exploded so recently. It's not just cheap jumpscares but rather the use of unnerving imagery and storytelling that just jumps back and forth because it can
@@starmoral5456 and you are always a real perspective rather than just audience watching. You are included to experience the horror as the "watcher" this creates A parasocial kind of connection Like you really found a lost footage Slowly it is becoming more a narrative Approach To present collective information instead of a perspective, Which helps make a more intriguing place for horror like that. why is that a tape, that's Not the main priority
Lmao I dislike a lot of analog horror. Just a ton of cringey "scary" faces. The only one I like the meat one. It does a good job at setting up its world and how the creatures came to be.
I actually like disturbing things, because "getting disturbed" is literally just expanding your perception of reality. It's ironically a very good way to grow.
@@archs1ay3r3 Considering mistakes are the best way to learn lessons, seems legit. Idk the extent of research specifically on being disturbed, but it I know forces you out of your comfort zone, thus opening your mind / broadening your horizons. I don't think a citation is necessary for a significant part of human nature that we all experience and grow from. Hope that's helpful :)
That's the stupidest fucking thing I've ever heard in my life. A shift in perspective is a shift in perspective. If you find something disturbing, your brain is warning you of danger.
when I was 11 I had a (very vivid) dream of being dead. Not dying, already dead. I remember being in a vast grey place, seemed like there was no end to it, and feeling alone and scared. I knew I couldn't go back and what was done was done. I woke up crying. That's one of the few times that I've ever felt actual horror in my life, and it wasn't even real
I had one where I drowned, where the world was going fast but was slow at the same time, my vision was getting more and more blurry, and a washed out feeling of numbness, and then nothing. Not nothing as in closing your eyes, or a void, _nothing_ I couldn’t think or do anything, time didn’t exist, nothing existed, and then I woke up. I still don’t know how to describe it properly
@@tycathedrawer Today, I had a dream.It was a dream about me and some other people catching baby ducks.But then one of the baby ducks(!?!?!) dragged me with it's wing into the river bit that's near my school.I fell into the water and I tried to flail and scream for help but nothing worked.Eventually, I gave up.And then I woke up. A few years ago, I dreamt of someone or me in a school.(Not in my perspective, more like in a perspective where you're like watching someone)The school was reddish-orange inside and there was someone taller then the rest(teacher?) with blue clothes(?).They/I were/was walking towards the teacher(?) when two of the smaller people(children, a little bit bigger than me/them in the dream) grabbed hold of their/my arms and dragged them/me through the door they/I was next to.They/I were/was screaming something in the dream as we/they approached something big(a big blue pool?).They pushed me/them into the pool(?) and a loud noise suddenly hurt my ears.For some reason, it went into my perspective, and showed me flailing, kicking and trying to get out while they were laughing.The teacher(blue clothes, blondish brown hair) approached the pool and stared at me.Her eyes were emotionless.And then I woke up traumatized lol.
@@i_gave_up_on_everything yea that sounds kinda freaky I’ve had multiple dreams in 3rd person, probably because I watched too much RUclips There was a time where I didn’t really have dreams, or at least didn’t remember them, until I had this one vivid dream where I was walking alone to home at night, and there was a truck. Something something and then it swerved onto the sidewalk which really freaked me out. The truck was really big and I was running as fast as I can to my dad [which wasn’t in the dream before but dreams are random like that] and the truck was blaring “wake up” over and over and over again. I turn around to look and it turned into a tank?? Idk but after that I’ve been having much more vivid nightmares and dreams. I’m not suggesting anything, I’m the polar opposite of a conspiracy theorist, but that was weird
In my opinion, good horror is horror that has no explanation to it. There's no backstory to that horror, no explanation to why it exists, it just hates and feeds. Its twisted and corrupt and it doesnt attack. It watches. It waits. Thats why psychological horror is simply amazing, it doesnt attack you, but it makes you attack yourself. It leaves you so alone and forces you into never trusting anyone and becoming so paranoid that you fear yourself.
this is a great point. to add to it, i think this kind of unexplained horror, at least for me, links to a sense of existential dread akin to nihilism. it's raw, and close to real life horror. we dont know why evil, suffering, hate exist, or if there even is a reason. but they do, and we are forced to deal with them. it's that deep sense of real paranoia that kind of horror taps into. no complicated explanations or lore, just instinct.
Stephen King agrees with you, at least in part! His relevant quote, which was used in the opening of the first Alan Wake game, is: "...nightmares exist outside of logic, and there’s little fun to be had in explanations; they’re antithetical to the poetry of fear." I would not consider myself a huge horror fan exactly, but I love the Alan Wake series for its weird, twisting surreal mind-bending kind of storyline. Something about it hits me just right. I wonder what the more hard-core "horror fandom" at large thinks of it. I imagine that the first one at least is probably considered relatively "light" horror, probably, but I feel like the second one leaned harder into it. At least it gives me the creeps a little more than the first one did. Btw I'm also an illustrator-artist myself, though have tended to do stuff that is more fantasy, and not necessarily horror, unlike "Pitch". But I am moving into doing more personal (non-client-based) work again, and am very interested in the surreal and weird, so there is going to be some overlap...
That sort of primordial evil kind of falls flat for me, to be honest. I think part of it is that, without any explanation, all those unexplained beings that just hate and feed get kind of samey. But a larger part is that something has to be at least semi-plausible for me to be scared. My first experience with truly terrifying media was the Doctor Who episode The Empty Child, when I was about nine. I knew just enough about genes and molecules for the technobabble explanation to pass my suspension of disbelief and make me think it could really happen. I'm not saying everything needs to be fully explained, but a little detail used effectively can go a long way.
@@hughcaldwell1034 Fair enough. It can be a fine balance sometimes, certainly. We need enough to buy in, but over-explanation can often remove too much of something that is one of the biggest "sources of fear": The unknown. (And each of us have different thresholds for these things, of course.) No, Alan Wake is not going to chill me to my core, or make it hard for me to sleep while pondering existential horror, but I just like the vibe. For me, Alan Wake is fun because of the reality-twisting "mind-f" that comes with art work (writing, in Alan's case) being the catalyst for altering reality. As an artist, I guess that appeals to me in an extra- particular way. ;-) There are certainly times when I want a more grounded story, and other times when I feel like buying into a completely off-the-wall concept and going for the roller coaster ride. I will say that I have felt at times that King often relies too heavily on "not explaining" much of anything; it can be seen as a bit of a cop-out, I suppose.
what's really interesting to me about this comment is that i actually feel the complete opposite, it might just be what i happen to be watching recently, but horror or thriller movies tend to leave me feeling kind of weird, because people will search for answers but never really find the entire truth, you know? i prefer a kind of horror, or villain that kills for a reason, especially if it is somewhat relatable, almost as if you could understand its/his/her actions, but then is still more evil than you expect. but also i do agree that some horrors that don't explain themselves are profound and make sense where they are.
Silence isn't usually so bad until you're expecting noise to be the norm. Being awake in the day where there's more people noise, if you go out in the middle of night alone is different, so even in a very safe area, you'll likely feel unsafe and possibly watched.
Meanwhile people with social anxiety thrive in silence. Those empty frozen streets in the middle of the night are so peaceful assuming you don't risk getting mugged.
When I was 18 years old, I watched the Twilight Zone episode "The Hitchhiker" for the first time and that bit of black and white 1950s television frightened me infinitely more than a mainstream horror film ever could. I was a slim young woman who'd just gotten her driver's liscense and it was my absolute worst nightmare: alone, in a car, on a cross country roadtrip being pursued by an unknown figure with unknown intentions. The quiet dread and paranoia the main character experienced had me hiding under my blanket for more of the runtime than anything The Shining did. There was no gore, no monsters, no high budget special effects. All that was needed was a talented actress, a car, and the terror of the unknown. In horror, as with many other things, less is often more.
The Twilight Zone was such gold. So many episodes I’ll never forget-but the one that sticks with me the most was one about a man who finds himself completely alone in his whole town and everyone was a mannequin. Idk what it is about that that freaks me out so much, but it still gives me the creeps.
That's because the Twilighf Zone & Rod Serling particularly did have a really good way of taking the every day shit we experience as humans and putting a twist on it that we have all thought "wow that would be so scary..but that couldn't happen..I mean really. .it couldn't happen, could it, please say it couldn't.." in Long Distance Call..I'm not sure what season it's from the little boy character is close with his grandmother and right before she passes she gives him a play telephone and once she dies his parents hear him talking to who he's saying is grandma on that little phone and he's saying she's telling him to do crazy things to hurt himself essentially which they dont initially believe and then as the episode wraps up the last thing she calls and says to him is basically jump from your roof come be with your grandmother..and he was going to..ahh im scared right now from retelling that lol regular family regular experience..that turns almost innocently to start..into not very regular.. and kinda out of the blue and almost where his parents don't catch it..
>"Alone, in a car, on a cross country roadtrip being pursued by an unknown figure with unknown intentions." Duel 1971 comes to mind. Albeit it takes a pretty different approach to the concept, but still, cool movie.
For me, the scariest horror is the quiet horror. The one that you _know_ is there, watching you from the shadows, hunting you and creeping on you, but it doesn't comes violently nor fast. It comes slowly, as if merely taking a stroll, because it doesn't needs to come to get you quickly, nor does it needs to use force to do so. Because it reaching you, capturing you, is _inevitable_ and you being helpless in front of it is _a fact._ The quiet horror doesn't even needs to be bloody to be scary, it can even be clean- It just needs to make you feel powerless and with no way out, hopeless. Even worse, it can even give you the illusion of hope, then rip it out from you. The quiet horror kills softly, sometimes even to the point of making you surrender yourself willingly just to _make it all end_ and that's what it makes it so horrible.
yeah, to add to this, imo the scariest horror is the quiet horror that never gets revealed, where youre always imagining the worst possible version your head comes up with. The moment it gets revealed, it gets a „body“ and becomes somewhat fightable, you know what youre up against. A genre that does this for me is audio drama(=fiction podcasts), because the element of sight just…gone, its crazy how much that can change(side note, if youre interested, check out „Malevolent“). Also, as you said, there is some good horror in the unavoidable (im thinking of something like a reaper vs a werewolf). One that isnt „gone“ after the night but stays. Like an apocalypse scenario that isnt going to go away just because you pulled a lever. In my opinion a lot of good dystopias are scary because of exactly this- the inevitability; like god, a good dystopian novel is more nightmare fuel to me that a horror movie.
ik people hate the backrooms but geniunely the backrooms is one example of this. i like the original version that has no monsters but you're just in a room, alone.
Agree. I don't really like horror movies or games, because they are mainly based on jumscares (which are super annoying and cheap) and things that are unnatural, uncanny, gory and/or disgusting, but not necessarily scary. That's not where the danger comes from. There were three times when I was super scared, and that was while playing 'Until Dawn', watching 'Hellblade' gameplay and during the first episode of 'Dahmer' series. They had that feeling of nearly unavoidable danger, a kind of uncertainty or suspense, when you don't know what to do nor what is going to happen, but you are sure you're not safe. It's like walking through the woods listening to birds singing and in one moment everything goes completely silent without any explaination.
as that shen comics guy put it bad horror is loud and scary and wants to kill you. good horror is quiet and frail. YOU kill IT because it disgusts you. *But it never dies.*
It Follows was absurdly blatant in simplicity, but since it didn't explain itself because it shouldn't, this became another forgotten monster movie that was dismissed....bruh, it literally attached the inevitable to entity, and we're all still okay with that? I still randomly think I see, or worse, feel it closing distance just barely out of sight. I have failed to accept this as my own issues surfacing, bc even if I had a stroke from doing crack, it means nothing, bc nothing about this continuing to approach, has made it less real, literally. There is no version of this that ends well.
For me, ive always loved horror, but I hate a lot of horror media because I just don't like jumpscares. They're so obvious, and they're not all that fun. The opposite is honesty scarier. The slow, creeping dread, with no big scare to release the tension, just the realization that it isn't going to get easier
Theres only one thing that i feel scares me in horror. When things move in a way like an animatronic. Not animatronics themselves but humanoid figures that dont move right. Like a jaw that slowly moves open and closed in an unnatural way
Ah, you like that type of horror? I suggest you listen to fleshgait stories, they're basically a mix of the Wendigo, Skinwalker, and Goatman, it was entirely made by the internet. T6 Has a lot of stories about it.
For me, horror is at its peak when you finally go to sleep or feel comfortable, then you suddenly remember the true terror you felt desensitized to. Realization is one of the true scariest horror that can be used, feeling as if nothing scares you only for it to hit not when you’re consuming it, but when you’re at your most comfortable. Another thing that’s quite terrifying is when it’s not a big scary monster, often times it falls quite flat. Unless it’s something similar to a disturbing backstory or non at all. Also your artwork is very ethereal, it’s quite enchanting and unique
What horrifies me the most is when a safe space doesn’t feel safe. For example: Twister scared me as a kid and the scene that did it was when the tornado hit that house at night. It’s dark out, you should be getting ready to rest, and then this unstoppable, unfeeling force takes that away from you in an instance. On a more human sized note: a figure standing in a pitch-black room whose details I can’t make out.
One of my subjective, non-scientific measures for Horror that gets through to me is this: Something genuinely horrifying will make me question if I should not have seen/watched/listened to it. It will bother me after I am done with it, at least for a little while.
You'd probably like The Sadness. It left me with a "what the fuck did I just watch" feeling. I'm not usually into movies that rely on shockingly horrific acts but The Sadness strikes a good balance.
skinamarink did this to me. it bothered me for weeks, i was obsessed with it. meanwhile i showed it to my friend and he was completely unbothered. i'm white and he's mexican, and the fear from skinamarink i think comes a lot from the setting of the suburbia house and the old cartoons. his childhood was a lot different from mine. i didn't grow up in suburbia but i had friends and family growing up who did, so i was more familiar with the setting so it unnerved me more i think.
Or that in watching or hearing it, the media has taken something from you, reached inside and plucked something from yourself. Or like you said makes you feel wrong, like you've been touched anywhere without consent.
exactly, the best horror is the one that when it's over you regret it, not feeling relieved that's finally over but pure and simple regret, like you know you won't be able to get it out of your head for weeks
as a fan of horror and an (accidental) horror artist, i’m afraid of a lot of things in real life. i don’t like being in cars, walking into crowded places, etc. it’s hard for me to be afraid of fictional things bc i know they can’t do anything to me, but i WILL get super paranoid if i’m not in the right headspace. i remember one time i was so unsettled by something i saw that i looked at a piece of my own art and freaked out (it was very minor body horror that i’d drawn years ago). i don’t think i’m desensitized… i’m just aware of my limits. then again, eye contact (scopophobia) terrifies me both in real life & in fiction, haha
I’ve always and will always love horror in all its forms, but I had to distance myself from true crime bc of how paranoid I was getting. There are so many stories about people who just go about their normal day and then disappear, only to be found in trash bags days later. Or those security videos of people getting followed around grocery stores or apartment hallways, but it’s so subtle that you don’t think about it until you find out what happened afterward. Those are just the recorded cases. God knows how many got away with it. I’m recovering from agoraphobia 😅
@@dezs.5202 i understand this all too well. i used to have severe agoraphobia as a kid, i couldn’t go outside and just the thought of going outside made me freak out (I grew up watching stuff like 48 Hours on ID lol). i took therapy to get over most of it, but i still have a few quirks (i need curtains or blinds on my windows at all times). agoraphobia is quite debilitating… i wouldn’t wish it upon anyone. i wish you well with your recovery!
You sound so much like me it hurts! I was just wondering if I should talk to a therapist about the fear of eye contact. (which you just taught me the word for, thanks!) Why's that shit gotta be so hard? And about only being scared when you're psyching yourself out? Damn.
I love the kind of horror that can be beautiful, it's like sometimes the artist can be showing the very grotesque part of reality and also if you stare enough time, you can see all the beauty that lies in there. In the unknown, or in the things we try to avoid. I like the horror that makes me unable to look away in equal fasination and repulsion.
I been saying this too!!! Cozy horror exists. I just could not put it into words!!! Like there is horror in cozy stuff, and you can get the creeps with too much coziness, but there is also coziness in horror !!!!too much horror can make you feel calm and safe, it's weird but at least for me is a thing😅
All of the best horror I’ve seen has been from smaller indie creators. The Oldest View by Kane Pixels, or the games It Steals and Lethal Company, for example. And Lethal Company is comedy horror, but it can genuinely be frightening and tense.
Comedy horror is my favorite genre, especially in co-op games, because the upbeat moments make the horrifying moments even more terrifying, and the line between comedy, tragedy, and horror is thin enough that it can be easily passed through.
i love eldritch horror, cosmic horror, existential horror etc. It sounds wild but one of the best dreams I've ever had was me being in a simulation where a giant eldritch eyeball monster ripping the sky apart so I could see space and killing me over in different ways, I could feel the pain or being ripped in half or impaled in the head and it was incredible, every time I'd respawn I was looking the monster in the eye and I like to draw a lot of drawings that encapsulates how that felt.
For me, what really really worked, was The Backrooms. Specifically, the OG lore (with levels 0 to 2) without all the extra extra stuff added there by the Fandom. The concept at its barest and rawest. I was unironically worried that I'd end up in the backrooms myself! All alone Trapped for eternity Worried that something will get me but nothing actually coming up. As the world moves to the future, I'm forever stuck in the present
There's certain things that scare me, like horror art doesn't scare me (your art is still amazing, it just doesn't scare me), the main thing that scares me is videos. The pair of sound with a terrifying scene and sound to go with it is terrifying
Yeah! For me personally what really gets me is the Internet video format. The context of there just being one person talking to a camera really makes it seem more personal to me.
I love “horror” in certain ways, but I’ll never be able to digest the Saw movies without looking through my fingers with my hands over my eyes like a child. That torture porn kind of stuff makes me nearly feel sick. Too visceral for me. The art work however is magnificent. Nothing drawn will ever truly scare me. Perhaps be a bit disturbing, but I’d consider that a good thing.
Kane Pixel’s The Oldest View really got to me in a way that I hadn’t found for a while before setting it, and the reason why I wasn’t quite able to put into words til watching this; it’s unpredictable. There’s such a clear sense of unknownability, you’re certain that there’s a meaning behind everything you’re seeing but it’s just too alien to comprehend in its entirety. And it breaks a lot of the tropes: there seems to be clear established rules about how it all works but that’s revealed to be a facade at the end. Very well done
I think horror just needs to slow down. Like, having so many moments where things are moving quickly or flashing in front of your face, instead of moments where people are faced with something they can't possibly figure out safely.
Exactly, i cant get into a Horror movie fast enough in a 1 1/2hour long movie, horror is something like a disease almost, it needs time to grow and fester into pure terror
@@guccisnek2454 Ye pretty much exactly that. Needs to have time for people to go missing or suffer the effects of the monster for a time before just getting all panicked and scream-y.
@@gigas115 bro i would love to watch a 2-3 hour horror movie that really gets into the characters to make us appreciate them, and to really build the atmosphere, but noone wants a long horror movie, they only want fast pace and blood
@@guccisnek2454 Well yeah because technically, the movie wouldn't be horror for the first hour or so. I think the first act of the Paranormal Activity movies do such a good job because you know you're watching a horror movie, but next to nothing ghostly happens for so long. It builds up that suspense before shit hits the fan.
I would love a genre like 'terror'. Personally, I experienced genuine terror while watching 'Hereditary', particularly in the moments after Charly's beheading, witnessing all that Peter had to live through right after.
I won't lie there were a couple parts I laughed because I was so shocked. The only movie I can think about that actually gave me a deep unsettling feeling was Talk to Me. Mainly when the whole incident happens( I don't want to spoil it), and the interactions with the characters after made le feel uncomfortable. Great movie of yall haven't seen it, acting is very very good
I'm a bit late, but mentioning a fear of spiders was my favorite part of this video, it is something that I have personally experienced and helped me to understand what I believe your point was. I have personally always had SUCH a deep fear of spiders but recently, in my journey to explore things that truly fear me, I have been trying to see the beauty in spiders (I absolutely love them now) and it has opened my mind to horror as a means of personal growth of sorts.
i havent been scared of horror media since i was a teenager but i still love horror and the aesthetics of it. i think sometimes people think the only way to enjoy horror is to be scared of it but id argue thats not true, you can enjoy the other aspects of it like the visuals, the special effects, the atmospheres, the creature designs, etc. theres just so much to love in the genre
This! I totally want and crave scary horror movies but some of my favorites literally aren't scary at all. Especially older movies, I love the vibes, I love the creativity, they're not scary but they're fun to watch.
I think horror movies are trash because they try too hard to scare you. Sounds stupid but i dont really know how to describe it. They try to do ridiculous dumb stuff because they arent hood enough writers to scare you so they just try too hard.
I think you and everyone else who says that is delusional. Would you be ok with exploring a forest at night by yourself? If you found a graveyard would you avoid it? I think people are made paranoid by horror content regardless of how well made it is.
@@MrCmon113 i have wandered in both locatiions both on my own and with friends at night since i was a teenager. i find things in real life like actual murderers, cartels, corrupt governments, shit like that far scarier then fake stuff in a movie. not everyones scared or paranoid after watching a movie.
@@VVguy1 The Texas Chainsaw Massacre 1974 is the best made horror movie, it just is on another level. Not even that scary but my mom, an avid horror movie fan; has seen everything, the original TCM is the only movie that deeply unsettled her.
I grew up from finding typical monsters or demonic stuff scary to now just finding those concepts cool. What really creeps me out now is more existential horror, like years ago I heard a story about how time randomly stopped for a group of characters and that they each started dying off because they couldn’t breath in the non-circulated air anymore. Stories like Borrasca and Pen Pal also give me that realistic horror fix, like how you could just be living your life and not realize how fucked up everything is around you.
Horror is what makes you feel... That feeling... Fear, disgust... Something that hits you within, thoughts or words can be enough to instill the most fear in someone's mind. The thought of death, hunger, disease... Imagine being one of the few healthy during the black plague
One of the most horrifying games I’ve ever played, is one that tracks you into thinking that it’s nice and pleasant, and that Subnautica you start off in the nice bright, pretty shallows, and before you know it, you’re dropping a mile down a cliff into complete darkness with nothing but a void around you and ominous noises from creatures you’ll never see
the funny thing about subnautica is it was never intended to have horror. a bit spooky in those sections, sure, but never horror. which is very funny to me considering the reputation it's gained
@@sours-orchardThat's because we're human beings; living, breathing things made from flesh and blood. No matter how much we want to separate ourselves from nature, we cannot ignore the fact that our ancestors shared the Earth with monsters and we've inherited their survival instincts. Subnautica only politely reminds us that we're not immune to the rules of the food chain and that terrifiies the monkey in our brains
Subnautica was an amazing battle against my thalassophobia I will never forget. 10/10 one of those games you think about your time with for years. Those leviathans were something else HAHAHA
I dabble in horror writing a bit, but the only thing that ever really “scared” me wasn’t really meant to be a horror story at all, but one about grief and dealing with the loss of a child. And I think, to me, that’s what horror is; like yeah, being jump scared is great, but nothing is more terrifying than real-world, physicological terrors, such as loss, pain, and tragedy. Ugh, gives me the *shivers*
At this point the only thing that still gets me is seeing the way characters react to horrific scenarios, not the scenarios themselves. Seeing someone's decent in madness, seing them desperate and distressed, seing them question their entire world gets to me a lot more than the horror itself because I can empathize with them. Either that or getting to learn what allowed the horror to exist in the first place. The more detailed and based in reality the explanation is, the more likely to be terrified I am because that's when I start to question the potential horrors of my own world. Horror that is plausible and believable immediately becomes a lot more scary to me.
This does not only go for horror. For example, there is very little that makes me sad, when a puppy dies in a movie I don't care but when i see characters reacting to it i feel with them.
@@Narko_Marko That's interesting to hear because I'm the opposite: person dies = I'm fine; person reacts to death of another person = I'm mostly fine; animal dies = I'm emocially destroyd; person reacts to death of animal = I'm mostly fine again
Would you be ok with walking through a forest alone at night? And if you came across a graveyard in that forest would you avoid it? If so then horror media has gotten to and made you paranoid to some degree.
@@MrCmon113i wouldn't avoid the graveyard, I live right next to one and trust me it's one of the safest places to be. Alone in a forest at night my biggest fear would be getting lost and never finding my way back, or accidentally getting really hurt by tripping/falling down a cliff and dying from it because I can't get help. But that's because I grew up in the woods and those are things that do happen
I realized I wasn't truly desensitized to horror when I began writing my own horror stories. I learned that the horror media I had been consuming was, as you said, "too fun". By studying what it is that actually terrifies me, I've been able to delve into deeper levels narratively for my future books.
This the first video I saw of you. And, I’ve been scared to expose myself. I believe it’s the adrenaline the spiked and shyer me away. Recently, I’m wanting to try to make horror art. I think it’s because I’ve got past the feeling of the adrenaline (and/or maybe fear of the unknow). And my first thought dive into horror is through art because I’m an artist and that’s what I do to try to feel comfortable with something.
i really like horror that is psychological, rather than bodily horror, the idea of a monster or even itself twisting your own mind to use against you is horrifying, yet fascinating.
the piece at 7:38 is intensely comforting and somewhat romantic for me personally. i think your perception of horror depends heavily on who you are as a person and the feelings you associate with the subject matter at hand. i've always been afraid of body horror and large bodies of water, etc. for the fear of medical paranoia, being alone, being a test subject, etc. fear of mimics or non-human entities that want to replace me because i feel as if it would be easy to do, and yet i find the more analog horror i consume the less afraid i am of these things simply because of the poor edgy overt execution. it's as if horror nowadays like you said is made to be the idea of fear or what is scary and not actually what makes someone feel afraid. the concept of being alone. the concept of someone observing you in your most intimate moments. its like people think demons are not present within human society.
No because I was going to comment the same thing!!! The minute I saw it I felt super relaxed and comforted. There's something so gentle and tender about it for me in a way I can't quite put words to
I always love hearing people's thoughts on desensitization. I only recently have felt this effect, but even personally, I feel like I've pigeon holed myself into a comfort zone. Searching for different/exciting new fears is more difficult than finding a new TV show. They are definitely out there, but people willing to search for them is so limited that we rarely hear of anything not mainstream
@@MrCmon113 "I think a rollercoaster should be thrilling and fast!" 🤓-"So you think rollercoasters should go so fast that you die from g-forces or get flung into pavement."
Something I've found interesting in my own experience with horror is coming back to pieces of media I used to enjoy a decade ago and reassessing how I feel about it now. Like with what you said about The Blair Witch Project, I recently re-watched Marble Hornets for the first time in a handful of years. I feel like when I first watched it, I only really appreciated the paranoia of 'spooky big bad right around the corner' but as the years have worn on, I've found that it's the deeper themes that really get to me. While paranoia is definitely a core theme of the series, there is also this whole idea of retreading old relationships and discovering that the people you knew weren't really who they were. That the way you remember or experienced an event might not be true, and that people around you might have good reason to lie. There's also this sense of chasing this nostalgia that isn't really there, holding onto the past vs trying to move forward, and how not learning to grow as a person can cost you everything.
I often find myself seeing certain horror art beautiful, rather than getting scared or getting a sense of paranoia. I think your art is a wonderful example. It's creepy and scary, but i find it very pretty and intricate rather than something to be afraid of.
YES! I didn't find his illustrations scary, I thought they looked cool, so aesthetic, I found myself looking at some of them and trying to think of an appropriate kit as if they were League of Legends champions :D
I find this type of art oddly comforting as it feels like it’s pulling back the curtain and showing the deeper reality that seems more honest than this reality
Lake Mungo was so underrated. I remember checking to verify it was a horror mockumentary instead of a straight documentary because of how realistic and understated the actors were. Like yeah, I didn't believe what they were claiming but I believed THEY believed it. The phone scene made me gasp precisely because it was so quiet up until then. I cried through unsettled tears.
I genuinely can't believe people find that movie good. Me and my partner searched the entire thing and I was pissed off at the end. Felt like I wasted my entire movie night really. There's so many better options for under rated horror movies but God damn I hate this stupid movie. I'm not a dumb movie goer by any means. It follows was refreshing I fucking hate Mungo.
@@thelemon5069 Ouch, I feel like you missed out if you failed to recognise the greatness in that movie. And apparently not a dumb movie-goer? Well, well.
This was amazing and insightful. As a horror fan for most of my life, I very very very rarely come across something that does anything than put me at a slight dis-ease, and I honestly forgot that it's not supposed to be that way. I recently started seeing someone who's incredibly easily spooked and hides behind me whenever we watch scary movies, even at the scenes I feel to be incredibly cheap/not scary/easy to see coming, etc. It was interesting
There are certain types of people in that industry that not only causes that daily trauma to hundreds of thousands of kids but I found out that they can program said children into having complex trauma disorders that causes them to have alternate personalities of their abusers and this shit is very real and very terrifying. I looked it up it's called RAMCOA DID systems and holy shit it made me hate humanity even more
This video actually got me on a personal level. I have lately found myself in conversations with friends talking about all this horror stuff because I too, am a big fan of the genre, and often mentioning “but I’m desensitized to it” in the end or something (Most of these conversations took place online, though). But this video had me consider certain things about what is and isn’t the result of desensitization. For example, I once saw a video on RUclips that had rather unnerving elements and displayed horror well- yes, it was an analog horror episode. I did in fact have trouble sleeping that night. But after a while, I can go back to it without being scared at all, even watch it multiple times and still sleep fine. I already knew what was going to happen in the video, and so when I watch similar videos, I’m not as scared because I’ve already seen it. Then along comes a completely different kind of video; I’ll say this one specifically, i think it was a restored vhs tape posted online of a visual retelling of one of Edgar Allen Poe’s stories paired with voiceover. I knew the story, I was already well familiar with old-vhs style, how different could this be? Yet somehow this video managed to combine eerie music with long pauses of silence in the background (and good voice acting might I add) and suddenly I was just as uneasy as the first video I mentioned made me feel. Meanwhile I see people playing these recently popular games, and they are scared, but I look at the gameplay and go, “maybe it’s a little spooky, but I wouldn’t be screaming my head off like that.” Then again i guess if they weren’t screaming loudly they wouldn’t be as entertaining to watch and wouldn’t be making the commentary.. But I’m aware some people actually react that way My personal conclusion being thus, you’re desensitized if you expect it or have already seen it before, but you’re not desensitized if the horror doesn’t scare you simply because it’s not for you. What defines what “for you” is, is your personal experiences. I know this reply is a bit long.. I mean it’s an entire essay, in fact.. But I just wanted to say all of this because I haven’t actually felt this engaged by ideas presented in a video before. Also I find your art very inspiring to me because I love drawing spooky stuff from time to time. I sadly don’t do it as often anymore because I sometimes feel like I’ve lost interest but your stuff is a real motivator for me to remind me that horror art doesn’t have to be the same old thing, it can be anything as long as it strikes the right place. :)
@@BillCipherRealityEh, I've read longer, you're fine. Definitely gotta say, I agree with your points, here. I've personally come to view psychological horror as the most effective, especially ones that hit upon my most engrained fears. Gore can still make me squeamish, at times...but it's the more subtle dread-the things that latch onto the mind, over time, and can haunt and chip away at one's sanity-that I find is the most effective part of horror.
oml Noroi The Curse mention!!!!!!! that one is one of my all time favorites because for most of it the feeling isnt scared or super sad (for the most part) its about the confusion and the connection that you form with the characters, and finally the heartbreak of one of the most horrific endings ive ever seen!
Based on how I see it, some of the things that are truly horrifying are things that are in some way incomprehensible or intangible. Like the fear of forgetting or the fear of the unknown.
Fear of forgetting is a big one for me. For example dementia scares the hell out of me. I just imagine forgetting things one by one till I end up like my grandmother shuffling peas round her plate because she forgot they were for eating, and every time someone showed her it was like a revelation form the heavens, because it never stuck. She would forget again each time. I imagine being aware that I'm forgetting but being powerless to do it. Like forgetting my sons exist and then they jog a memory and I'm relived - but also knowing one day the memory will not be jogged. They will be lost to the fog and become permanent strangers pretending to be my sons trying to trick and torment me with their lies and impersonations.
what really gets me in the fear of the unknown and uncertainty, that’s why the first season of stranger things is so good to me compared to the other seasons because where Will was and the demogorgon and the upside down was a mystery that we didn’t know much of. it seemed hard to survive but then in like season 4 some of the main characters walk through the upside down with no mystery and danger. we know what the upside down is now and it’s no longer a sense of the unknown
and then it becomes a place to face melt with a kick ass metallica shredding session. lol i kid i still like the show and eddie went out like a boss but it did really kill the horror aspect
@@guitarman0365inherent nature of a series. Things have to be unknown or not traditionally defeatable in order to be scary. A series cant progress if enemies cant be defeated and no info has to come out to hook in audiences
Exactly that’s the best way to explain what is truly horrifying. For example subnautica, all you hear is screams from giant creatures while you are exploring the wide depths of the oceans on an alien planet. Subnautica isn’t even a horror game yet I’ve seen more ppl be scared of it than in any other horror game or movie. The fear of the unknown is the best and most scary horror theme imo. It also perfectly plays along with psychological horror which is kind of the same imo so I’ll put them in the same tier. Also a reason why the og backrooms were terrifying. Goofy humpscares and half hearted chase scenes where the camera swings around the entire time to the point where you can’t even see anything is not good and def not scary. For horror content to be good it also needs to be creative and unique. Extremely creative and unique to be exactly. You can’t just copy and paste it changing out some parts and calling it a day
My introduction to scp was a real good example for me. The stories and creatures stuck with me. Theres one aquatic scp that if u know its description and the way it looks it drags u underwater. Wether thats a lake or a drop of water. Stuff like that really had me creeped out late at night, especially when i was home alone.
My favorite kind of horror is the horror that usually pops up when you search . on RUclips. Most of isnt jumpscares but is just unsettling. It could be some creepy guy in a room that just says something random like "why did you leave me here" or something. It isn't outright terrifying it's just unsettling.
as someone young who wants to do art but with the slight twinge of horror, your content has to be some of the best to come to for advice and inspiration and thats just one of the many reasons i appreciate your content
I've been a hard horror fan for decades, and I've learned that there are a few things that genuinely scare me (impossible situations, loss of self/sanity), a lot of things that don't scare me at all (slashers, jumpscares, ghosts, normal stuff), and a handful of things that disturb me so hard I absolutely cannot touch them without triggering a panic attack (nonconsentual body modification, sexual sadism, prolonged animal cruelty). Given this, I personally don't feel desensitized at all. Just last week I finished reading PTSD Radio and it scared the crap out of the the entire time. It reaches that 'sweet spot' for me between 'This isn't scary for me" and "This is leaving actual emotional scars" for something challenging in the best way. Everyone has a different 'sweet spot' in terms of horror content. Something great about horror as a genre is that it encourages the consumer to discover these parts of their own psyche. Why does nonconsenting body modification give me a panic attack? Is it because I've had medical issues in childhood? That's something I can explore and therefore learn more about myself and how my mind works.
real horror when you mix in depression and sadness Psychedelics are just an exceptional mental health breakthrough. It's quite fascinating how effective they are against depression and anxiety. Saved my life.
Can you help with the reliable source I would really appreciate it. Many people talk about mushrooms and psychedelics but nobody talks about where to get them. Very hard to get a reliable source here in Australia. Really need!
Well done video I think much like anything in media it all comes down to dollars and cents, the wider public audience has shown they do not want to be scarred for life, they want quick and cheap thrills and then to move on to whatever it was they were doing before, Hollywood understands this and that's why most western horror is the same formula of cheap scares and surface level "horror" that rarely ever breaks the mold. I'm glad at least that it's been slowly getting a bit better and I hope it continues to improve because horror still has so much potential to be better.
btw, i think that second piece, the one with the realistic mouth with a thin streak of blood dripping from it, immediately gave me like primal fear, your art is soo cool man. as a young kid, i never watched too many horror movies or media, so a lot of horror stuff is still fresh for me. like everyone says that jumpscares don't scare them anymore, but they do for me, i hate loud noises and the surprise keeps me on my toes for 10 minutes minimum. i also hate spiders, like the animal crossing tarantula funnily enough strikes primal fear in me. existential horror is one that does it for me, something about how it's slightly relatable makes it terrifying to think about. oh also that hellmari thing from omori scared the crap out of me. basically if you want to scare me, make extremely realistic up close hairy spiders and realistic human features that are slightly messed up (you're great at this)
Wasn't sure what to expect when I saw this pop up in my feed but I'm very glad I found it, this is a great little discussion and I'd definitely be interested to see more. Plus I just have to say your art is gorgeous! Every piece you've shown here is utterly mezmerizing and it's fascinating seeing how you create them, that's a subscribe from me just to see more of these. For me, I wouldn't say I'm so much desensitized as for a long time I've struggled to find horror media that really gets me on a deep level. Slashers, goreflicks and big spooky supernatural stories can still be great but a fair amount of the the mainstream stuff can feel more entertaining that truly terrifying. I can jump and have my heart racing during the film or game or book, but the moment it's over that's it. It's a thrill not a lingering dread, and as a horror writer myself it's something I've often struggled to tap into for my own work. But I've found the indie scene much more effective at this as things like youtube shorts/series and especially indie horror games are far more willing to focus on atmosphere and psychological horror over big scares. In fact there have been a couple of games that have finally been able to create that deeply upsetting dread that goes on way after finishing them, so I think a lot of it comes down to what works for different people.
I was watching Ju On Origins on Netflix and what horrified and stayed with me was the parts where they had used real life events in the show, more than the ghost and the jump scares had scared me. Same with Incantation. The fact that the little girl was suffering bothered me more than the deity at the end.
I think some of the issue is how horrifying real life has gotten... Its kinda hard to take popular horror movies seriously when I have to go home to the existential dread. The boogey man was fun before I met him.
The things that always made me feel weird was drawing mutilated self portraits, me in pain, me screaming, me turning personal failures into diseases that afflicting me in the photo. I don’t show many people them. But imagine drawing yourself after 60 years of smoking. You looking in the mirror 25 years from now if you didn’t find love. What would the stare at myself look like. So I draw it. One of my favorites I did is of myself at 18 with bubbling boils forming up from neck to my eyes. It represented not being able to express myself through art felt like a disease pushing out. It makes me sad and worried about things that actually affect me. Adding modern horror affects to these ideas to afflictions of self portraits. I always like games that can say your name by accident. I setup a blind playthrough of fallout 4 and set the name to my girlfriend’s name. When she played through she would feel creeped out that somehow the game knew who she was. The robots and side characters in the beginning are somewhat nice, but it felt weird. I would love to see a game or horror movie with AI that puts you on the screen or in the game without you realizing, or you walk in a room and it’s your room. The fear of something that shouldn’t be anything but consumed media knowing you is unsettling. Imagine seeing a painting that characters shift to your family members. It directly pulls you and demands you to address your feelings in that situation. I highly recommend Pickmans model by HP lovecraft to be the aura you should try to pull from your art whether it be audio, graphic, or video.
Tbh what scares me varies very wildly depending on my anxiety. I had a phase where I watched all of the final destination movies and was terrified of leaving the house for months, and another where I could watch very violent cartel ex*cution videos and not think twice over them. Personally I prefer being afraid of violence and horror because being desensitized to that kind of stuff leaves you very empty. I like being scared bc it reminds me of my humanity somewhat.
Im not experienced with horror but things that i have found out about myself it that when there is a game, drawing or film that has something gruesome than most of the time im not effected by it. When looking at the drawings you made im just fascinated by the characters. But if i see something mildly gruesome IRL than i couldn't handle it
One of the best pieces of horror media I know and love to death is The Magnus Archives- a long-running horror anthology series done entirely through video. Many of its episodes left a deep pit of true dread in my chest after listening, or made my skin crawl, others fascinated me, but it takes from all walks of fear. It takes from disgust and revulsion, from psychological terror, from liminal spaces, body horror, madness, uncanniness, anything you can think of. And it’s wonderful. It has a tendency to take classic horror tropes and monsters (such as werewolves, vampires, zombies,monsters under the bed, and even the grim reaper) and put a unique, individual spin on it unlike most else you’ve seen while still maintaining the original concept at its core. Truly fantastic series. I would HIGHLY recommend it for horror buffs who have yet to experience it and feel like the current state of most horror media leaves something to be desired.
I got into horror because I used to be terrified of everything! Horror honestly helped me see most things aren't as scary as they seem. I still enjoy some mainstream horror movies if they are entertaining, but I also find psychological horror to be the genre to still scare me. I think the Faith horror series is a good mix of both visual and psychological horror for example. Love your art by the way! I my not find most pieces scary, but I find them morbidly beautiful and I like reflecting on them.
you know, the behind the scenes of the Blair Witch Project is crazy to me because they had the cast know almost nothing about the plot so every reaction in the movie really is full of genuine emotion and confusion and paranoia, adding to that, the atmosphere of being lost in the woods with randomized cues that some of the production members knew and others didn’t. had it been done any other way i think the impact wouldn’t have been the same
What's interesting about horror for me is that everything scares me. I don't even have to watch horror movies to be paranoid at night. But I've always loved the stories that come with the horror genre and how characters can be portrayed in that setting. It's creepy, and it brings out a different side of the human psyche. Now, not a lot of things used to scare me when it comes to actual horror media, but what started to get me spooked again was actually weirdcore esque reality bending, along with psychological horror. To know that something's happening that *shouldn't* be able to happen, in any stretch of the imagination with seemingly no rhyme or reason leaving you to question your own sanity and sense of reality? It always leaves me feeling weird and creeped.
Usual horror things like creatures, ghosts and monsters give me some hope that there's something out there and the world isn't just... This. To me, actual horror is really grounded stuff and how "bland" and cold this world can be. Something like the fear of not accomplishing anything in life, misery and such. There are things that bother me, sure, but fearing things... I feel like the reality we live in is enough.
Recently started listening to the Magnus Archives, and Episode 1 immediately hooked me. The idea of a hunter that poses as human, but doesn’t actually chase its prey is a fantastic idea.
This helps me a lot actually. For years now I have been searching for a piece of media or real-life phenomenon that may scare me or unsettle me, but I just never could. Thanks for making this video, and great work!
I used to think that I wasn’t into horror, but then I read American Psycho. Holy shit. It’s the only book that’s actively made me put it down and just stare. You just need to find what horror means to you.
I remember watching the Sixth Sense when I was 10 years old and it scared me absolutely silly. Come to find out it's not even a horror movie, it's some "paranormal thriller drama" or something. Also I find the social evolution of zombies pretty interesting. Back in the 1950s, I recall a lot of old black and white movies said that the fear of the zombie was "assimilation". Now, it's about social dyscohesion. It's about the ripping apart of niceities and convention nowadays.
I completely agree with this, I thought for the longest time that I was desensitized to horror (which i have been consuming since a young age), but it turns out that I'm just continuing further into the feeling of fear, and the media im consuming is failing to keep up. Its quite difficult finding certain media up to my level of impressions when it comes to horror and scary things, because of how widespread the promotion is of classic slasher and 'gore' media (mainly horror), which isnt even portrayed that well.
I think that horror stems from how honest it is. The more honest the less scary. As humans we fear the unknown more than most things, and therefore seeing a giant bloody monster tickles the part of our brain that recognizes "oh it's a big scary monster." While seeing a shadow on the dark with a bright white smile, it's there, it's gone, was it even there? That makes us much more afraid because we can't asses the threat and don't know how scared we should be
The one’s that really get me is when it holds on the f’d up monster or whatever and it has an alien form of sentience. It doesn’t simply demands your attention with cryptic messages with just enough for your brain to draw connections but the message is eerie and terrifying. When it plays with fear and some other emotion it makes me feel like it’s real in someway, some analog horror definitely gets this out of me for sure.
I think the important thing to remember is that horror to most people is fictional. If someone asks me if I'm afraid of horror, no, because I know it isn't real. Would I be afraid of something actually trying to kill me? Sure. It isn't fearlessness that makes you immune to horror, it's learning that fiction can't hurt you.
but most fiction is supposed to move you in some way by investing you - you're not supposed to be thinking about the fact that it's fiction the whole time and completely dismiss things like character motivations or sadness or etc. so why would fear specifically be different ?
@@Envy_May I can watch a horror movie and understand that a scene is scary without feeling fear, just like I can look at the deplorable actions of a villain without feeling real hatred, and I can look at a beautiful heroine without actually feeling love. Sure, a movie can make me sad, or make me shed a tear at how beautiful a scene is, but I still know it's fiction. I know no one died, no day was saved, these people don't exist, and nothing can really hurt me.
@@Envy_May you don't have to think about it being fiction the whole time, it's more like, when you put the movie or the book away, you can disengage with it. Maybe in the moment it scares you, captivates you, etc - but you can choose to step away from those emotions in a way that's harder with reality.
@@amoureux6502 ah, well i thought op was implying not even feeling fear _in the moment_ - whether it lingers afterwards or not is kind of its own whole thing, i feel
That's not how it works. Would you be fine with going alone to a graveyard in a forest at night and digging up some old corpses? That's 100% safe. But I bet you would be spooked. Bcs you're influenced by horror media and cultural narratives even when you KNOW there's no threat.
I enjoy horror, sometimes mainstream, but mostly analog or indie. Stuff like No Trough Road, Local 58, Hiimmarymary, RADAR, GREYLOCK, Winter of ‘83, Skinamarink, the first Alien movie, The Blair Witch Project, and games like Presentable Liberty, Lorns Lure, Fran Bow, etc, etc. Most of these things didn’t really leave a mark on me, except for Fran Bow, GREYLOCK, and Presentable Liberty, so I’ve always felt “left out” in the horror genre. I’m a horror writer/Artist, even if my works don’t scare me, I still put in the time/effort to make them good, and I really do enjoy making horror. Perhaps I haven’t found my niche that will frighten me yet, but even if I don’t ever find it, I’ll still love crafting these terrifying creatures and worlds.
i JUST got to know more about you, and honestly your art and commentary are genuinely so amazing, i want to see more of this for sure, cause it felt more like a one to one conversation to me, unlike how most commentaries can be like, as for my experience with horror, i still get spooked and jump scared a lot, thankfully too, cause i just haven't been as up-to-date as i would be say 4 years ago, and feeling this type of dread in horror games, movies, and more is literally the best ever. please keep up the amazing work, i truly know that deep inside i'll be enjoying watching more in the future!
true horror is being scared to go to sleep and lying motionless in your bed because your brain thinks something you saw in a video/movie/whatever is somewhere in your room and can't stop imagining that, even with a nightlight to keep the room from being completely pitch-black probably my most recent fright came from... an unlikely place. zeurel's animation of vinesauce joel playing nun massacre "the night of the nun", more specifically this one scene where joel walks into a room, turns on a lighter and, in an easily-missed detail, there's this tall, ghastly figure back in the corner of the room behind joel... i wasn't able to sleep in my room that night because that image of that pale, inhuman form in the far corner of my room burned itself into my mind and _that_ is what it means for something to be scary. you might not freak out from it at first but when you're alone, at your most vulnerable, your mind brings these terrors back up to you and then you understand what it truly means to be kept up at night.
Yeah that's why I think horror sucks in general. It's never scary in the moment, but it makes you paranoid for a long time afterwards. Even if it doesn't keep you from doing what you usually do, it still gives darkness a bad taste.
I find analogue horror content on youtube is scarier than many movies are these days. They usually portray their stories as if they could happen to us, the audience, bringing a sense of realism to their story. That makes it scarier, in my opinion.
The Boiled Man from DrNoWhere has legitimately stuck with me since the video released (I happened to stumble upon it at 3 am in my room with the lights off, which helped). It freaked me out so much that I can't look it up to late into the evening because I know the thumbnail and me getting stuck in my own head will keep me up when I'm trying to get to sleep.
@@warweasel2832 don't do stuff like that late at night. trust me, BAD idea. i've lost a lot of sleep because i was an idiot and watched a spooky video on youtube lol.
@@manboy4720 Well, yeah. But sometimes you're just like "fuck it". Also doesn't help that I suffer from mild auditory hallucinations (Hearing my name/talking in white noise, walking sounds that aren't there) and paranoid delusions that get worse under stress.
I really wish I could enjoy analogue horror more, but a lot of it seems to be rooted in a specific sort of Christian trauma that I just don't have any context for? I think indie horror in general is seeing a boom in concepts exploring the church, and it looks so cool but leaves me feeling like a confused outsider when it ultimately doesn't hit.
I can't tell you how well the mimics managed to target my deepest fears, particularly with how they were described like any other wild creature you have keep an eye out for, making them feel ridiculously real.
@@DeathnoteBBthat’s honestly a big part of it for me, is that its all confusing. makes it feel like something outside of human comprehension is happening to a person or people. it’s a similar appeal as cosmic horror and body horror
@@jadesmediacorner Yeah but narratively, it’s confusing. Like it’s all images and snippets of text, sometimes a PSA video for something. It never makes enough sense to be scary. When I first got into it I went with it, like “Maybe it’ll be explained later” but most I watch just never give you anything, though I admit lots are ongoing so it’s hard to tell if it’s never going to be explained or it will one day
how am i desensitized when I don't even like horror, I don't get it... However... When I have nightmares... once in a great while I have the most horrific nightmares ever. Like realistic and actual real people dying in real ways... brutally. And it's so shocking and scary. I hate it so much. It's like my stupid brain goes "ok very little will scare me so I have to try extra hard to make this nightmare affect me" and then it does it too well.
I had a really strange and unpredictable experience recently with an artwork a friend of mine made. TW: Literal mentions of not safe for life stuff, and MLP... They showed it during a Discord voice call and I was unintentionally disturbed more than I might've been in a decade. Context: I do make some scary stuff sometimes, and some gore stuff sometimes, nothing crazy, I always want my bloody or visceral pieces to have a meaning, to be political, etc. never just aimless creepyness or anything... now.. I literally get references from real videos of people getting killed. If anyone is unaware, its LAUGHABLE how easy it is to just seek those out on the internet, it's literally 1 google search away.. and I'm not bothered by them, I see the opportunity in them to make my works better. I'm also vegetarian, (only not fully vegan because I currently share food budget with family). The reason is simply because of the cruelty of the animal product industry. One of my friends is a My Little Pony fan artist who makes cute stuff. 0 gore or anything, just cute cuddly animals, ponies, furries, sometimes nice people. They showed a piece in a group voice call that was an MLP OC, who was based on bacon. Literally the pony had a tail that was a piece of bacon, and had the vertical lined burn marks on their back like a piece of grilled meat. If I remember correctly the mane of the pony was also made out of bacon. This picture was meant to be cute, the character was a happy OC character piece that was based on a food item, like characters based on fruits or something. I had to get up and go to the bathroom, and I was about 3 seconds away from actually throwing up. That cute MLP fan art evoked a visceral reaction to me that was worse than when I saw things I shouldn't mention on youtube, like real videos where people start with a person who has a head.. and no longer has one by the end of the video. I'm literally not bothered by seeing actual people dying on camera. I almost threw up all over my desk upon seeing a fun MLP fan art. I never told my friend, I just pretended I left for a minute to get something, I don't want them to be self conscious about it. Unironically it was the most unintentionally messed up piece I've seen, possibly ever.. If it was just MLP horror art of any kind it wouldn't have bothered me at all. The way the animal cruelty was combined with cuteness, made by a person who literally seen no issue with it made it much worse than anything I can ever recall seeing. *RUclips auto moderator, please don't hurt this poor little comment! Thanks!
Such an interesting comment. In my case, drumroll, I found out that I'm disgusted by sponges. Literal kitchen sponges. Shivers run down my body when I imagine squeezing it, eugh
perspective is extremely interesting. i think maybe people dont really get "desensitized" they just have their sensitivities shifted, like, the sensitivity doesnt go away completely its just your sensitivity for humans getting relocated into sensitivity for animals. reminds me of how i sometimes have nightmares that are completely bonechilling while i am experiencing them but seem very silly once i actually wake up. idk if the idea of people having a finite specific amount of sensitivity that cannot be increased or reduced has any merit to it or if im just making shit up.
Im afraid of really specific things - the ocean is terrifying because its an incredibly powerful force of nature i have no control of myself in. Disjointedness or broken bodies - I dont know how to describe it all that well aside ; A torn off limb is just an object to my brain. It still clearly tells me something is wrong , its not attached to the body anymore and my brain can see it as something on its own now. But when its still attached, broken, mangled, its still part of the host and isnt its own thing. Its beyond something wrong to me. Another thing - cant do thinks that writhe. Maggots will make me cry . Its mire a strong disgust than fear but i will straight run tf away if i see them
I think the problems with horror are the problems with entertainment in general. No one wants to do something different anymore. Alien was new at the time, but now everyone is familiar with "monster in tight space hunting us down" so no one cares anymore.
Realistically the scariest thing that gets everybody is the fear of the unknown. Not knowing how you should feel when shown something surreal. Partly why I’ve clung to cosmic horror so much even though lovecraftian stuff is way too overdone. Basically give me cosmic horror that isn’t lovecraftian in an interesting setting with interesting themes and it’s eye candy for my lust of being scared.
psychological horror is usually one of the only things that can scare me . well-placed fourth wall breaks can also be good but are often overused . its not too hard to scare me or evoke any other extreme emotion of of me if i am "in the zone" and invested the media im consuming at that moment
Problem is psychological horror is the most difficult to do. Subtlety and skill are key. Stray even a little off the mark, and it ends up stupid. The good stuff is unsettling and stays under the skin for years, even decades.
i love horror and definitely have been scared of a lot of it but the only piece of media that has really kept me up at night was Everywhere At The End of Time, the 6-hour dementia simulation. i was genuinely terrified for days after listening to it, and it kinda changed my view on horror. because what can be scarier than having your entire mind work against you? if you’re forgetting everything then do you still really exist? it’s so much worse than a quick death, so it’s way more anxiety-inducing to me
Imo depends on the speed forgetting and what's left. If you're just instantly replaced, you died imo. But if after 10 million years none of your original memories are left, it's hard to say you died.
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As someone who wants to be a monster designer, I find it somewhat difficult to capture "Good Horror" in a design, Ive only ever made one monster design that scared me personally, and it was a creature that simply lived in your home without you knowing and watched you. That was it. It fascinates me how uncomfortable this simple design made me, compared to other, more directly gruesome things. Although, I have struggled to replicate these feelings, but your videos always help me think.
I think it worked so well due to how much it leaves stuff to your mind and the fact it can be real. If there indeed was a thing that just lived inside your home and watched you without you knowing you, obviously, wouldnt know. It can be inside your home watching you read this and you wouldnt have a idea
Can you link a picture if you can?
@@KaptanTsubasa-ic3wd I agree, he freaks me out even today. That last part of your comment made me uncomfortable actually, which is always great. I just want to find more fears that evoke the same sense of discomfort.
@@dr.happyfuntimes1214 I wish I could but I dont have him posted anywhere sadly. Hes very humanoid, with a bulbous, massive eyeball swelling from his gaping, stretched mouth . It has this gross gullet covered in fingers, and growths of eyes along his body, his spine arches and breaks through portions of his skin. He has dark, uneven messy hair that drapes down one side of his face, hes the size of a normal guy but he crawls everywhere, and will fit into any space, with no concern for any harm coming to himself, as his want to watch is so strong he dosent care. The longer he watches you, the closer he tries to get, over the span of weeks maybe months, until he is less than an inch away from you. Once you see him he simply leaves and runs away, never returning, if you corner him though and he has no escape, he gets violent.
@@dixiefugazi6323 If you feel like posting it anywhere @ me a link to it! your channel art is neat :)
I like being unsettled and creeped out rather than outright scared. Jumpscares are nice but all they do is make me...well, jump. Give me something that makes me feel like I might actually be in danger, and I'm there for it.
me casually getting absolutely jumspared by random ass not even harmful things it minecraft
just a quick scare and thats it, kinda silly do ngl
exactly, a well made and immersive atmosphere is so much more valuable to me than just gory stuff or a simple build up to a jumpscare, those just don't do anything to me anymore
@@jaydenstrudel exactly. And gore does have it's place, but it has to be part of the horror, instead of just being the only horror itself
I’m reminded of the distinction some people have made between _Horror_ and _Terror: Terror_ is what happens when we feel as though we could be confronted within something awful at any moment; _Horror_ is what we feel after the awful thing is revealed.
I also like Alfred Hitchcock’s illustration of the distinction between ‘surprise’ and ‘suspense’: _Surprise_ is what happens if you show a scene of an ordinary dinner party and then suddenly a bomb goes off under the table; _Suspense_ is what happens if you _show_ the audience the bomb ticking away under the table while you watch the same ordinary dinner scene.
he made a video saying thats what he does and he does it on perpoise and in that vid he explains how to do it
What scares me:
Actual horror stories/movies❌
Shitty 4chan stories✅
What scares me:
4chan
@@pitchcanker can we know if any of them are even real?
@@pitchcankertrue, that's on the top 10 scariest well known websites lol
@@zackdrake8735 lmao, no, they're all fake
The one about the Thunderbird freaked me out a bit, same with the Norwegian gnomes
They REALLY need to start categorizing horror and thriller separately
they don't? those are two separate genres
I feel like they usually do.
I want to the video store lots way back .
To the two guys commenting: no they dont. They ARE supposed to be separate genres. But Hollywood is so lazy that they always put anything remotely "scary" or "bloody" as Horror/Thriller. Look at the tags in any of those slasher movies or any horror movie. Its ALL the same two tags regardless of how shitty or good the movie is. The Horror/Thriller tags is rotten now
@@markevans1618 well time to stop watching hollywood movies I guess?
@@themeemqueen thats part of the problem, the other problem is streaming services also dont do this type of genre separation. They are all complicit in slapping 100 tags on every movie to get audiences to watch as much of their stuff as possible. Literally every single service does this. Hell anime is more selective with its tags. So you have a compounding multistage problem: the movies produced market themselves as multiple genres to attract as much attention as possible, streaming services also market all these movies as multiple genres with a million tags, society itself has been so braindead with tags (just look at the tags for any twitter, instagram, or youtube video. There's always a million tags). Its a huge societal issue that most likely will never be addressed and it muddies the water of what the differences between entertainment are. Horror, thriller, psychological, slasher. These should all be fairly distinct but nowadays its all slapped onto damn near every movie its just sad
Psychological horror is my favorite. It may not be as scary on the surface, but the more you unravel the layers, the more appalled you become. Because it may seem typical, but it’s actually so deeply twisted that it messes with you
Edit: hi everyone! Thanks for contributing to the lovely discussion down below. If you have any specific recommendations for books/movies/stories with psychological horror or horror you just enjoy, please comment it! :)
A mix of psychological horror and any other kind of horror is always scary, like the boiled ones phenomenon, it's scary because it has religion in it and the thought that many of its victims may have been kids since it appeared on a channel made for kids in the lore
Yea, the more real it is, the more sad it makes me tho.
Yesss, I absolutely love psychological horror as well!
I watched the Mandela catalog and wasn’t scared, then I thought about it for a bit, then I was terrified, psychological horror is 100% the scariest form of horror
Same here, most visual horror doesn't really do it for me. Psychological horror I like because it's the things you can't see that I find most horrifying. A scary concept or idea is way worse than any crazy dude with a knife.
Quiet periods during midday freak me out. You know, the horror of noon. I feel like daytime horror is kind of underrated.
Slavic mythology has Lady Midday, and she encapsulates the creepiness of open, dusty fields in full, scorching sun perfectly. To think she might kill you with a heatstroke, make you mad, or force you to dance for hours. Everyone expects something bad to happen at night, but not when it's bright and seeminly peaceful.
summer in texas, the last few years especially, gives me this feeling constantly. I feel like I have seasonal affective disorder but for summer instead of winter here
it wasn't great per se but this is what made midsommar somewhat interesting. to be fair it did have pretty unsettling points. but the persistent brightness of it helped a lot
Absolutely, horror in everyday settings and during daylight can be so good when done right
Reminds me of being home alone as a kid at mid day, windows open, sun shining yet I was so uncomfortable and anxious listening to every little thing.
One thing that I've realized as someone who was raised consuming horror media; cultural horror is scarier to me than most of the things I see in television.
I'm not scared of gore, jump scares, even non-cliche movies don't really hit me hard. But hearing my grandpa tell me horror stories as a kid and treating them like they were real terrified me. I'm scared of ghost stories till this day, specially when people add realism. My grandparents used to tell me to never whistle in the woods, to leave an area I'm in if it's dead quiet, to never run in the woods, and to never stare for too long into the foliage because you don't know what's staring back. Those kinds of things practically handed nightmares to me on a silver platter. Specially as a kid who lived in a ranch next to dense forests for my entire childhood.
I'd never heard the phrase "cultural horror" used this way before. Thanks for adding to my vocabulary. I agree wholeheartedly that fear penetrates much deeper when it's personal. Narratives keep me distanced from horror movies because all the horror happens to the characters, not to me. The 4th wall remains comfortably intact.
I like the way you describe your family's ghost stories. You reminded me of a book I read years ago when I was a kid, North South East West, a collection of cultural tales from around the world. The scary story section chilled me to my bones like little else had or has since, especially one story within a story of someone telling a class full of kids about to get out of school for summer how a worker in a factory fell into one of the giant vats and got chopped up by the blades before anyone could help him. THAT is fear-inducing to me.
If you have any more stories to share, I'd love to hear them! Thanks for making me think.
@@geisterbilder Hey man I'm really glad you took an interest to it!
I'm from Brazil and my grandfather is native Brazilian, and the thing with Brazilian horror is that it can be very unpredictable, contrary to American horror which follows a very particular narrative pattern.
I won't be speaking for all of Brazil, but at least from how I see it, it is a culture where there is no clear threshold between what is alive and what is dead (spiritually speaking).
The people in the area I lived don't go to haunted houses, because we know what it's like to get involved where we're not invited.
Unfortunately I don't have any stories, specially because my family never told them as stories, they told them as if they were warnings, casual warnings non the less. They told them as if they were obvious, well known rules. I remember once they put my fear of the dark into a whole other level;
The ranch we lived in when I was a child was practically inside the 'Serra Do Mar' mountains (a mountain range that spans across 4 states).
As most children do, I had chores. One of my main chores was feeding our dogs, who stayed in a cannel during the night. After I was done feeding them I realized I left the door to our house wide open, I guess I forgot to close it. In many households and cultures in South America, leaving the door to your house wide open at night attracts bad omens, but I grew up as a skeptic, I didn't (and still don't tbh) believe that anything bad would happen.
After I walked back inside, I talked to my mom after she got out of the shower, I told her that I left the door front open on accident while feeding our dogs. that night, and every night for a week after that, she made sure neither of us or our cat left our rooms once the lights in the house turned off. And keep in mind I was about 10 years old at the time, so for a week I was terrified of my own shadow. I hear of people who run up the stairs in their house after turning off the lights, but can you imagine the feeling of being a little kid and not being allowed to turn off any lights in the house if I was alone for a week straight? I wasn't allowed to feed my dogs at night anymore lol, my mom gave me the morning shift.
What terrified me the most is the fact that there was no description of what my mom thought went into the house. I didn't know if it was a 'monster' or if it was simply some 'Premunition' ammount of bad luck, and I don't know that till this day.
I could always ask her, or my grandparents, but I think I'd rather not know. Not because I think it's real, but because even if that situation scared me to my core, it is still a treasured memory from my childhood, and I'd rather not ruin it by being told the chupacabra ran into my house or something lmao. I'd rather stay oblivious and think it was some mystical horror beyond human comprehension or something, because it sounds more fun.
Thats awesome!!!
@@geisterbilder4th wall… hmm yeah i have seen some that broke the fourth wall and its awesome! There was one called “the last horror movie” ( i think it was around 2005)
He successfully made you not run into the woods while no one's watching
I’m desensitized to bad horror, jumpscares don’t get me anymore
jumpscares are just fun to me, i love it
BOO! 👻
@@orion8764 I still love a good jumpscare for the lols but when its the only thing there is in a horror movie or horror game it gets eyerolling
@@Banished-rx4ol RIGHT!! jumpscares everywhere makes the movie predictable and it's like the writers can't go past the "ooooh scary ghost boo" and actually dive into real horror.
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My fave concept is like you make a minor mistake and then the consequences are astronomical. Scares me to death. Gruesome accidents that happen in a split second unsettle me more than anything in movie form. I'm more afraid of the idea that anything could happen in the chaos of existence than I am of like a person or being that is identifiable.
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so true, its why i hated 1000 ways to die as a kid lol, ive always been very anxious about such things. i remember as a kid i would always calculate where my head would fall if i where to trip while walking or standing somewhere, always making sure i stood near enough to other objects for most of my body to fall on top of them or far away enough to hit the ground. i had a huge fear that if i tripped i would hit my neck on the side of a chair or table and be paralized for life lol
me too. Like, it's so scary how something so small can change everything drastically.
Like losing a finger in the sausage mixer.
To me it’s making a small decision that goes out of your everyday life, like taking a different route than you usually do, how one small decision could end you in seconds
We are desensitised to the visual horror but the psychological horror is what we all are genuinely scared of
Nope all of us have different experiences and different fears
@@lapizcata6930 and there are categories and norms. We are all humans living in the same day and age experiencing the same horror movies and games. AndJust like anything there is a majority and a minority. You may be part of the minority. Some people are mentally handicapped and others grew up on the Gaza Strip so Obviously we all have different fears and perceptions. But this is a niche video for a specific group of people who have probably already thought about horror being desensitized.
So I will say we are because only people who clicked on the video will see this
You're a loser. @@owenmiller4316
Weirdly enough I experience this in a very backwards manner. Jumpscares and thriller content fills me with dread and anticipation, while more psychological horror intrigues, interests and doesn’t leave me too scared. Yes it does make the darkness in my room a little less approachable, but it does not hinder my sleep lol.
I think that's why analog horror has exploded so recently. It's not just cheap jumpscares but rather the use of unnerving imagery and storytelling that just jumps back and forth because it can
So it's cheap jumpscares without the loud noises.
@@olserknam not really a lot of it is atmosphere
@@starmoral5456 and you are always a real perspective rather than just audience watching. You are included to experience the horror as the "watcher" this creates
A parasocial kind of connection
Like you really found a lost footage
Slowly it is becoming more a narrative
Approach To present collective information instead of a perspective,
Which helps make a more intriguing place for horror like that. why is that a tape, that's Not the main priority
I find analog horror so not scary, I guess doesn't work when you actually grown up with actual analog signals... It feels more nostalgic to me.
Lmao I dislike a lot of analog horror. Just a ton of cringey "scary" faces.
The only one I like the meat one. It does a good job at setting up its world and how the creatures came to be.
I actually like disturbing things, because "getting disturbed" is literally just expanding your perception of reality.
It's ironically a very good way to grow.
Wow. Didn’t know that! If I may ask, is there any research behind that?
@@archs1ay3r3 Considering mistakes are the best way to learn lessons, seems legit. Idk the extent of research specifically on being disturbed, but it I know forces you out of your comfort zone, thus opening your mind / broadening your horizons. I don't think a citation is necessary for a significant part of human nature that we all experience and grow from.
Hope that's helpful :)
@@alyssarichardson2544 That is very helpful! Thank you so much!
No getting disturbed by something that cannot hurt you makes a null effect on you
There is no real emotion in it
That's the stupidest fucking thing I've ever heard in my life. A shift in perspective is a shift in perspective. If you find something disturbing, your brain is warning you of danger.
when I was 11 I had a (very vivid) dream of being dead. Not dying, already dead. I remember being in a vast grey place, seemed like there was no end to it, and feeling alone and scared. I knew I couldn't go back and what was done was done. I woke up crying. That's one of the few times that I've ever felt actual horror in my life, and it wasn't even real
All my dreams have been like that my whole life. I never thought about it before but maybe that's my problem
I had one where I drowned, where the world was going fast but was slow at the same time, my vision was getting more and more blurry, and a washed out feeling of numbness, and then nothing. Not nothing as in closing your eyes, or a void, _nothing_
I couldn’t think or do anything, time didn’t exist, nothing existed, and then I woke up.
I still don’t know how to describe it properly
@@tycathedrawerIt's a strange feeling, one that's better to hope to understand at the latest time possible of our lives...
@@tycathedrawer Today, I had a dream.It was a dream about me and some other people catching baby ducks.But then one of the baby ducks(!?!?!) dragged me with it's wing into the river bit that's near my school.I fell into the water and I tried to flail and scream for help but nothing worked.Eventually, I gave up.And then I woke up.
A few years ago, I dreamt of someone or me in a school.(Not in my perspective, more like in a perspective where you're like watching someone)The school was reddish-orange inside and there was someone taller then the rest(teacher?) with blue clothes(?).They/I were/was walking towards the teacher(?) when two of the smaller people(children, a little bit bigger than me/them in the dream) grabbed hold of their/my arms and dragged them/me through the door they/I was next to.They/I were/was screaming something in the dream as we/they approached something big(a big blue pool?).They pushed me/them into the pool(?) and a loud noise suddenly hurt my ears.For some reason, it went into my perspective, and showed me flailing, kicking and trying to get out while they were laughing.The teacher(blue clothes, blondish brown hair) approached the pool and stared at me.Her eyes were emotionless.And then I woke up traumatized lol.
@@i_gave_up_on_everything yea that sounds kinda freaky
I’ve had multiple dreams in 3rd person, probably because I watched too much RUclips
There was a time where I didn’t really have dreams, or at least didn’t remember them, until I had this one vivid dream where I was walking alone to home at night, and there was a truck. Something something and then it swerved onto the sidewalk which really freaked me out. The truck was really big and I was running as fast as I can to my dad [which wasn’t in the dream before but dreams are random like that] and the truck was blaring “wake up” over and over and over again. I turn around to look and it turned into a tank??
Idk but after that I’ve been having much more vivid nightmares and dreams.
I’m not suggesting anything, I’m the polar opposite of a conspiracy theorist, but that was weird
In my opinion, good horror is horror that has no explanation to it. There's no backstory to that horror, no explanation to why it exists, it just hates and feeds. Its twisted and corrupt and it doesnt attack. It watches. It waits. Thats why psychological horror is simply amazing, it doesnt attack you, but it makes you attack yourself. It leaves you so alone and forces you into never trusting anyone and becoming so paranoid that you fear yourself.
this is a great point. to add to it, i think this kind of unexplained horror, at least for me, links to a sense of existential dread akin to nihilism. it's raw, and close to real life horror. we dont know why evil, suffering, hate exist, or if there even is a reason. but they do, and we are forced to deal with them. it's that deep sense of real paranoia that kind of horror taps into. no complicated explanations or lore, just instinct.
Stephen King agrees with you, at least in part! His relevant quote, which was used in the opening of the first Alan Wake game, is: "...nightmares exist outside of logic, and there’s little fun to be had in explanations; they’re antithetical to the poetry of fear."
I would not consider myself a huge horror fan exactly, but I love the Alan Wake series for its weird, twisting surreal mind-bending kind of storyline. Something about it hits me just right. I wonder what the more hard-core "horror fandom" at large thinks of it. I imagine that the first one at least is probably considered relatively "light" horror, probably, but I feel like the second one leaned harder into it. At least it gives me the creeps a little more than the first one did.
Btw I'm also an illustrator-artist myself, though have tended to do stuff that is more fantasy, and not necessarily horror, unlike "Pitch". But I am moving into doing more personal (non-client-based) work again, and am very interested in the surreal and weird, so there is going to be some overlap...
That sort of primordial evil kind of falls flat for me, to be honest. I think part of it is that, without any explanation, all those unexplained beings that just hate and feed get kind of samey. But a larger part is that something has to be at least semi-plausible for me to be scared. My first experience with truly terrifying media was the Doctor Who episode The Empty Child, when I was about nine. I knew just enough about genes and molecules for the technobabble explanation to pass my suspension of disbelief and make me think it could really happen. I'm not saying everything needs to be fully explained, but a little detail used effectively can go a long way.
@@hughcaldwell1034 Fair enough. It can be a fine balance sometimes, certainly. We need enough to buy in, but over-explanation can often remove too much of something that is one of the biggest "sources of fear": The unknown. (And each of us have different thresholds for these things, of course.)
No, Alan Wake is not going to chill me to my core, or make it hard for me to sleep while pondering existential horror, but I just like the vibe. For me, Alan Wake is fun because of the reality-twisting "mind-f" that comes with art work (writing, in Alan's case) being the catalyst for altering reality. As an artist, I guess that appeals to me in an extra- particular way. ;-)
There are certainly times when I want a more grounded story, and other times when I feel like buying into a completely off-the-wall concept and going for the roller coaster ride.
I will say that I have felt at times that King often relies too heavily on "not explaining" much of anything; it can be seen as a bit of a cop-out, I suppose.
what's really interesting to me about this comment is that i actually feel the complete opposite, it might just be what i happen to be watching recently, but horror or thriller movies tend to leave me feeling kind of weird, because people will search for answers but never really find the entire truth, you know? i prefer a kind of horror, or villain that kills for a reason, especially if it is somewhat relatable, almost as if you could understand its/his/her actions, but then is still more evil than you expect. but also i do agree that some horrors that don't explain themselves are profound and make sense where they are.
Silence isn't usually so bad until you're expecting noise to be the norm. Being awake in the day where there's more people noise, if you go out in the middle of night alone is different, so even in a very safe area, you'll likely feel unsafe and possibly watched.
I hate being alone in a silent, empty, large space for a long time. It feels like something's about to happen.
Meanwhile people with social anxiety thrive in silence. Those empty frozen streets in the middle of the night are so peaceful assuming you don't risk getting mugged.
nah i enjoy the silence
@@xeres6232 I am your opposite
When I was 18 years old, I watched the Twilight Zone episode "The Hitchhiker" for the first time and that bit of black and white 1950s television frightened me infinitely more than a mainstream horror film ever could. I was a slim young woman who'd just gotten her driver's liscense and it was my absolute worst nightmare: alone, in a car, on a cross country roadtrip being pursued by an unknown figure with unknown intentions. The quiet dread and paranoia the main character experienced had me hiding under my blanket for more of the runtime than anything The Shining did. There was no gore, no monsters, no high budget special effects. All that was needed was a talented actress, a car, and the terror of the unknown. In horror, as with many other things, less is often more.
The train part of the episode scared me the most - I thought for sure that was where it was going to end.
The Twilight Zone was such gold. So many episodes I’ll never forget-but the one that sticks with me the most was one about a man who finds himself completely alone in his whole town and everyone was a mannequin. Idk what it is about that that freaks me out so much, but it still gives me the creeps.
That's because the Twilighf Zone & Rod Serling particularly did have a really good way of taking the every day shit we experience as humans and putting a twist on it that we have all thought "wow that would be so scary..but that couldn't happen..I mean really. .it couldn't happen, could it, please say it couldn't.." in Long Distance Call..I'm not sure what season it's from the little boy character is close with his grandmother and right before she passes she gives him a play telephone and once she dies his parents hear him talking to who he's saying is grandma on that little phone and he's saying she's telling him to do crazy things to hurt himself essentially which they dont initially believe and then as the episode wraps up the last thing she calls and says to him is basically jump from your roof come be with your grandmother..and he was going to..ahh im scared right now from retelling that lol regular family regular experience..that turns almost innocently to start..into not very regular.. and kinda out of the blue and almost where his parents don't catch it..
>"Alone, in a car, on a cross country roadtrip being pursued by an unknown figure with unknown intentions."
Duel 1971 comes to mind. Albeit it takes a pretty different approach to the concept, but still, cool movie.
YESS!! WE WATCHED THAT EPISODE IN ENGLISH CLASS ABOUT A YEAR AGO IT WAS SO GOOD
For me, the scariest horror is the quiet horror. The one that you _know_ is there, watching you from the shadows, hunting you and creeping on you, but it doesn't comes violently nor fast. It comes slowly, as if merely taking a stroll, because it doesn't needs to come to get you quickly, nor does it needs to use force to do so. Because it reaching you, capturing you, is _inevitable_ and you being helpless in front of it is _a fact._
The quiet horror doesn't even needs to be bloody to be scary, it can even be clean- It just needs to make you feel powerless and with no way out, hopeless. Even worse, it can even give you the illusion of hope, then rip it out from you.
The quiet horror kills softly, sometimes even to the point of making you surrender yourself willingly just to _make it all end_ and that's what it makes it so horrible.
yeah, to add to this, imo the scariest horror is the quiet horror that never gets revealed, where youre always imagining the worst possible version your head comes up with. The moment it gets revealed, it gets a „body“ and becomes somewhat fightable, you know what youre up against. A genre that does this for me is audio drama(=fiction podcasts), because the element of sight just…gone, its crazy how much that can change(side note, if youre interested, check out „Malevolent“).
Also, as you said, there is some good horror in the unavoidable (im thinking of something like a reaper vs a werewolf). One that isnt „gone“ after the night but stays. Like an apocalypse scenario that isnt going to go away just because you pulled a lever. In my opinion a lot of good dystopias are scary because of exactly this- the inevitability; like god, a good dystopian novel is more nightmare fuel to me that a horror movie.
ik people hate the backrooms but geniunely the backrooms is one example of this.
i like the original version that has no monsters but you're just in a room, alone.
Agree. I don't really like horror movies or games, because they are mainly based on jumscares (which are super annoying and cheap) and things that are unnatural, uncanny, gory and/or disgusting, but not necessarily scary. That's not where the danger comes from. There were three times when I was super scared, and that was while playing 'Until Dawn', watching 'Hellblade' gameplay and during the first episode of 'Dahmer' series. They had that feeling of nearly unavoidable danger, a kind of uncertainty or suspense, when you don't know what to do nor what is going to happen, but you are sure you're not safe. It's like walking through the woods listening to birds singing and in one moment everything goes completely silent without any explaination.
as that shen comics guy put it
bad horror is loud and scary and wants to kill you.
good horror is quiet and frail. YOU kill IT because it disgusts you.
*But it never dies.*
It Follows was absurdly blatant in simplicity, but since it didn't explain itself because it shouldn't, this became another forgotten monster movie that was dismissed....bruh, it literally attached the inevitable to entity, and we're all still okay with that? I still randomly think I see, or worse, feel it closing distance just barely out of sight. I have failed to accept this as my own issues surfacing, bc even if I had a stroke from doing crack, it means nothing, bc nothing about this continuing to approach, has made it less real, literally.
There is no version of this that ends well.
For me, ive always loved horror, but I hate a lot of horror media because I just don't like jumpscares. They're so obvious, and they're not all that fun.
The opposite is honesty scarier. The slow, creeping dread, with no big scare to release the tension, just the realization that it isn't going to get easier
Theres only one thing that i feel scares me in horror. When things move in a way like an animatronic. Not animatronics themselves but humanoid figures that dont move right. Like a jaw that slowly moves open and closed in an unnatural way
uncanny valley go brrrrr
Unnatural movement adds a lot of horror
DUUUDE I LOVE THAT
I’m still trying to figure out how to animate it as I also find it super creepy lol
I can do that 😈
Ah, you like that type of horror?
I suggest you listen to fleshgait stories, they're basically a mix of the Wendigo, Skinwalker, and Goatman, it was entirely made by the internet.
T6 Has a lot of stories about it.
For me, horror is at its peak when you finally go to sleep or feel comfortable, then you suddenly remember the true terror you felt desensitized to. Realization is one of the true scariest horror that can be used, feeling as if nothing scares you only for it to hit not when you’re consuming it, but when you’re at your most comfortable.
Another thing that’s quite terrifying is when it’s not a big scary monster, often times it falls quite flat. Unless it’s something similar to a disturbing backstory or non at all.
Also your artwork is very ethereal, it’s quite enchanting and unique
Exactly... Like when anaesthesia wears off
The thing about big scary monsters is that, we've beem dealing with those things ever since the dawn of our existence.
I mean I feel like that without horror movies xd
Ah yes, fridge horror, such an underrated way to get you when you least expect it.
That's actually the reason why I don't like horror and almost never consume it. It's interesting to me how people enjoy that feeling.
What horrifies me the most is when a safe space doesn’t feel safe. For example: Twister scared me as a kid and the scene that did it was when the tornado hit that house at night. It’s dark out, you should be getting ready to rest, and then this unstoppable, unfeeling force takes that away from you in an instance. On a more human sized note: a figure standing in a pitch-black room whose details I can’t make out.
One of my subjective, non-scientific measures for Horror that gets through to me is this:
Something genuinely horrifying will make me question if I should not have seen/watched/listened to it. It will bother me after I am done with it, at least for a little while.
You'd probably like The Sadness. It left me with a "what the fuck did I just watch" feeling. I'm not usually into movies that rely on shockingly horrific acts but The Sadness strikes a good balance.
skinamarink did this to me. it bothered me for weeks, i was obsessed with it. meanwhile i showed it to my friend and he was completely unbothered. i'm white and he's mexican, and the fear from skinamarink i think comes a lot from the setting of the suburbia house and the old cartoons. his childhood was a lot different from mine. i didn't grow up in suburbia but i had friends and family growing up who did, so i was more familiar with the setting so it unnerved me more i think.
Or that in watching or hearing it, the media has taken something from you, reached inside and plucked something from yourself. Or like you said makes you feel wrong, like you've been touched anywhere without consent.
exactly, the best horror is the one that when it's over you regret it, not feeling relieved that's finally over but pure and simple regret, like you know you won't be able to get it out of your head for weeks
@@soupstoreclothing Skinamarink is exactly what I had in mind for this comment.
as a fan of horror and an (accidental) horror artist, i’m afraid of a lot of things in real life. i don’t like being in cars, walking into crowded places, etc. it’s hard for me to be afraid of fictional things bc i know they can’t do anything to me, but i WILL get super paranoid if i’m not in the right headspace. i remember one time i was so unsettled by something i saw that i looked at a piece of my own art and freaked out (it was very minor body horror that i’d drawn years ago). i don’t think i’m desensitized… i’m just aware of my limits.
then again, eye contact (scopophobia) terrifies me both in real life & in fiction, haha
Big mood
This is me
I’ve always and will always love horror in all its forms, but I had to distance myself from true crime bc of how paranoid I was getting. There are so many stories about people who just go about their normal day and then disappear, only to be found in trash bags days later. Or those security videos of people getting followed around grocery stores or apartment hallways, but it’s so subtle that you don’t think about it until you find out what happened afterward. Those are just the recorded cases. God knows how many got away with it.
I’m recovering from agoraphobia 😅
@@dezs.5202 i understand this all too well. i used to have severe agoraphobia as a kid, i couldn’t go outside and just the thought of going outside made me freak out (I grew up watching stuff like 48 Hours on ID lol). i took therapy to get over most of it, but i still have a few quirks (i need curtains or blinds on my windows at all times). agoraphobia is quite debilitating… i wouldn’t wish it upon anyone. i wish you well with your recovery!
You sound so much like me it hurts! I was just wondering if I should talk to a therapist about the fear of eye contact. (which you just taught me the word for, thanks!) Why's that shit gotta be so hard? And about only being scared when you're psyching yourself out? Damn.
I love the kind of horror that can be beautiful, it's like sometimes the artist can be showing the very grotesque part of reality and also if you stare enough time, you can see all the beauty that lies in there. In the unknown, or in the things we try to avoid.
I like the horror that makes me unable to look away in equal fasination and repulsion.
*Scorn enters the chat*
I been saying this too!!! Cozy horror exists. I just could not put it into words!!! Like there is horror in cozy stuff, and you can get the creeps with too much coziness, but there is also coziness in horror !!!!too much horror can make you feel calm and safe, it's weird but at least for me is a thing😅
All of the best horror I’ve seen has been from smaller indie creators. The Oldest View by Kane Pixels, or the games It Steals and Lethal Company, for example. And Lethal Company is comedy horror, but it can genuinely be frightening and tense.
Comedy horror is my favorite genre, especially in co-op games, because the upbeat moments make the horrifying moments even more terrifying, and the line between comedy, tragedy, and horror is thin enough that it can be easily passed through.
@@grayanddevpdxunderrated!!!! My boyfriends favorite movie is Shawn of the dead 🫶🏻❤️
Ooh I remember It steals, that game was fun!
The Oldest View was soooo good. It's been a long time since anything has gripped me like that.
Analog horror has been producing some of the greatest and worst concepts simultaneously in horror.
*I started listening to creepypastas in the past 6 months before bed and it has become my favorite genre of horror*
Same! Ever since I listened to Penpal my life changed
i love eldritch horror, cosmic horror, existential horror etc. It sounds wild but one of the best dreams I've ever had was me being in a simulation where a giant eldritch eyeball monster ripping the sky apart so I could see space and killing me over in different ways, I could feel the pain or being ripped in half or impaled in the head and it was incredible, every time I'd respawn I was looking the monster in the eye and I like to draw a lot of drawings that encapsulates how that felt.
For me, what really really worked, was The Backrooms.
Specifically, the OG lore (with levels 0 to 2) without all the extra extra stuff added there by the Fandom. The concept at its barest and rawest.
I was unironically worried that I'd end up in the backrooms myself!
All alone
Trapped for eternity
Worried that something will get me but nothing actually coming up.
As the world moves to the future, I'm forever stuck in the present
Imagine if you were locked in a room.
a rubber room ? @@Wyi-the-rogue
@@cyanyde4950 a rubber room with rats?
@@cyanyde4950 a rubber room with rats?
@@cyanyde4950 A rubber room with rats?
There's certain things that scare me, like horror art doesn't scare me (your art is still amazing, it just doesn't scare me), the main thing that scares me is videos. The pair of sound with a terrifying scene and sound to go with it is terrifying
Yeah! For me personally what really gets me is the Internet video format. The context of there just being one person talking to a camera really makes it seem more personal to me.
I love “horror” in certain ways, but I’ll never be able to digest the Saw movies without looking through my fingers with my hands over my eyes like a child. That torture porn kind of stuff makes me nearly feel sick. Too visceral for me. The art work however is magnificent. Nothing drawn will ever truly scare me. Perhaps be a bit disturbing, but I’d consider that a good thing.
Kane Pixel’s The Oldest View really got to me in a way that I hadn’t found for a while before setting it, and the reason why I wasn’t quite able to put into words til watching this; it’s unpredictable. There’s such a clear sense of unknownability, you’re certain that there’s a meaning behind everything you’re seeing but it’s just too alien to comprehend in its entirety. And it breaks a lot of the tropes: there seems to be clear established rules about how it all works but that’s revealed to be a facade at the end. Very well done
I think horror just needs to slow down. Like, having so many moments where things are moving quickly or flashing in front of your face, instead of moments where people are faced with something they can't possibly figure out safely.
Exactly, i cant get into a Horror movie fast enough in a 1 1/2hour long movie, horror is something like a disease almost, it needs time to grow and fester into pure terror
@@guccisnek2454 Ye pretty much exactly that. Needs to have time for people to go missing or suffer the effects of the monster for a time before just getting all panicked and scream-y.
@@gigas115 bro i would love to watch a 2-3 hour horror movie that really gets into the characters to make us appreciate them, and to really build the atmosphere, but noone wants a long horror movie, they only want fast pace and blood
@@guccisnek2454 Well yeah because technically, the movie wouldn't be horror for the first hour or so.
I think the first act of the Paranormal Activity movies do such a good job because you know you're watching a horror movie, but next to nothing ghostly happens for so long. It builds up that suspense before shit hits the fan.
@@gigas115 exactly, thats why i love hereditary, because the actual horror comes after the daughter dies
I would love a genre like 'terror'. Personally, I experienced genuine terror while watching 'Hereditary', particularly in the moments after Charly's beheading, witnessing all that Peter had to live through right after.
that scene was one of the most impactful I ever saw in cinema and stuck with me until today! terror I felt in my bones
The movie was quite funny actually
@@deadchannel2537as a matter of factoids, you’re all wrong! It doesn’t exist🤓
@@deadchannel2537 I’m gonna touch you lil bro
I won't lie there were a couple parts I laughed because I was so shocked. The only movie I can think about that actually gave me a deep unsettling feeling was Talk to Me. Mainly when the whole incident happens( I don't want to spoil it), and the interactions with the characters after made le feel uncomfortable. Great movie of yall haven't seen it, acting is very very good
I'm a bit late, but mentioning a fear of spiders was my favorite part of this video, it is something that I have personally experienced and helped me to understand what I believe your point was. I have personally always had SUCH a deep fear of spiders but recently, in my journey to explore things that truly fear me, I have been trying to see the beauty in spiders (I absolutely love them now) and it has opened my mind to horror as a means of personal growth of sorts.
i havent been scared of horror media since i was a teenager but i still love horror and the aesthetics of it. i think sometimes people think the only way to enjoy horror is to be scared of it but id argue thats not true, you can enjoy the other aspects of it like the visuals, the special effects, the atmospheres, the creature designs, etc. theres just so much to love in the genre
BOO!
This! I totally want and crave scary horror movies but some of my favorites literally aren't scary at all. Especially older movies, I love the vibes, I love the creativity, they're not scary but they're fun to watch.
I think horror movies are trash because they try too hard to scare you. Sounds stupid but i dont really know how to describe it. They try to do ridiculous dumb stuff because they arent hood enough writers to scare you so they just try too hard.
I think you and everyone else who says that is delusional.
Would you be ok with exploring a forest at night by yourself? If you found a graveyard would you avoid it?
I think people are made paranoid by horror content regardless of how well made it is.
@@MrCmon113 i have wandered in both locatiions both on my own and with friends at night since i was a teenager. i find things in real life like actual murderers, cartels, corrupt governments, shit like that far scarier then fake stuff in a movie. not everyones scared or paranoid after watching a movie.
For me, psychological horror is probably the scariest type of horror.
the figure right behind you agrees with that.
wait... you can see him... right?
Not really scary, just well written. For horror it needs to be distressing, vile and maybe hopeless imo.
@@VVguy1 The Texas Chainsaw Massacre 1974 is the best made horror movie, it just is on another level. Not even that scary but my mom, an avid horror movie fan; has seen everything, the original TCM is the only movie that deeply unsettled her.
I grew up from finding typical monsters or demonic stuff scary to now just finding those concepts cool. What really creeps me out now is more existential horror, like years ago I heard a story about how time randomly stopped for a group of characters and that they each started dying off because they couldn’t breath in the non-circulated air anymore. Stories like Borrasca and Pen Pal also give me that realistic horror fix, like how you could just be living your life and not realize how fucked up everything is around you.
Horror is what makes you feel... That feeling... Fear, disgust... Something that hits you within, thoughts or words can be enough to instill the most fear in someone's mind. The thought of death, hunger, disease... Imagine being one of the few healthy during the black plague
Shall I introduce you to, The Magnus Archives?
One of the most horrifying games I’ve ever played, is one that tracks you into thinking that it’s nice and pleasant, and that Subnautica you start off in the nice bright, pretty shallows, and before you know it, you’re dropping a mile down a cliff into complete darkness with nothing but a void around you and ominous noises from creatures you’ll never see
The exact reason I can't play that either. I tried so often. But it is just too horrifying for me.
the funny thing about subnautica is it was never intended to have horror. a bit spooky in those sections, sure, but never horror. which is very funny to me considering the reputation it's gained
@@sours-orchardThat's because we're human beings; living, breathing things made from flesh and blood. No matter how much we want to separate ourselves from nature, we cannot ignore the fact that our ancestors shared the Earth with monsters and we've inherited their survival instincts. Subnautica only politely reminds us that we're not immune to the rules of the food chain and that terrifiies the monkey in our brains
Subnautica was an amazing battle against my thalassophobia I will never forget.
10/10 one of those games you think about your time with for years. Those leviathans were something else HAHAHA
"Detecting several leviathan class entities in this one. Are you sure what you're doing is worth it?"
I dabble in horror writing a bit, but the only thing that ever really “scared” me wasn’t really meant to be a horror story at all, but one about grief and dealing with the loss of a child. And I think, to me, that’s what horror is; like yeah, being jump scared is great, but nothing is more terrifying than real-world, physicological terrors, such as loss, pain, and tragedy. Ugh, gives me the *shivers*
At this point the only thing that still gets me is seeing the way characters react to horrific scenarios, not the scenarios themselves. Seeing someone's decent in madness, seing them desperate and distressed, seing them question their entire world gets to me a lot more than the horror itself because I can empathize with them. Either that or getting to learn what allowed the horror to exist in the first place. The more detailed and based in reality the explanation is, the more likely to be terrified I am because that's when I start to question the potential horrors of my own world. Horror that is plausible and believable immediately becomes a lot more scary to me.
This does not only go for horror. For example, there is very little that makes me sad, when a puppy dies in a movie I don't care but when i see characters reacting to it i feel with them.
@@Narko_Marko That's interesting to hear because I'm the opposite:
person dies = I'm fine; person reacts to death of another person = I'm mostly fine; animal dies = I'm emocially destroyd; person reacts to death of animal = I'm mostly fine again
Would you be ok with walking through a forest alone at night? And if you came across a graveyard in that forest would you avoid it? If so then horror media has gotten to and made you paranoid to some degree.
@@MrCmon113i wouldn't avoid the graveyard, I live right next to one and trust me it's one of the safest places to be. Alone in a forest at night my biggest fear would be getting lost and never finding my way back, or accidentally getting really hurt by tripping/falling down a cliff and dying from it because I can't get help. But that's because I grew up in the woods and those are things that do happen
I realized I wasn't truly desensitized to horror when I began writing my own horror stories. I learned that the horror media I had been consuming was, as you said, "too fun".
By studying what it is that actually terrifies me, I've been able to delve into deeper levels narratively for my future books.
got a way i could read some? that sounds hella cool
This the first video I saw of you. And, I’ve been scared to expose myself. I believe it’s the adrenaline the spiked and shyer me away. Recently, I’m wanting to try to make horror art. I think it’s because I’ve got past the feeling of the adrenaline (and/or maybe fear of the unknow). And my first thought dive into horror is through art because I’m an artist and that’s what I do to try to feel comfortable with something.
i really like horror that is psychological, rather than bodily horror, the idea of a monster or even itself twisting your own mind to use against you is horrifying, yet fascinating.
You mean a monster that gives you compliments and expensive gifts?
the piece at 7:38 is intensely comforting and somewhat romantic for me personally. i think your perception of horror depends heavily on who you are as a person and the feelings you associate with the subject matter at hand. i've always been afraid of body horror and large bodies of water, etc. for the fear of medical paranoia, being alone, being a test subject, etc. fear of mimics or non-human entities that want to replace me because i feel as if it would be easy to do, and yet i find the more analog horror i consume the less afraid i am of these things simply because of the poor edgy overt execution. it's as if horror nowadays like you said is made to be the idea of fear or what is scary and not actually what makes someone feel afraid. the concept of being alone. the concept of someone observing you in your most intimate moments. its like people think demons are not present within human society.
Well isn't that interesting! It's the only one that I truly found scary!
No because I was going to comment the same thing!!! The minute I saw it I felt super relaxed and comforted. There's something so gentle and tender about it for me in a way I can't quite put words to
I always love hearing people's thoughts on desensitization. I only recently have felt this effect, but even personally, I feel like I've pigeon holed myself into a comfort zone. Searching for different/exciting new fears is more difficult than finding a new TV show. They are definitely out there, but people willing to search for them is so limited that we rarely hear of anything not mainstream
Good horror should make you feel personally threatened, should stoke your imagination to betray you.
well said, I completely agree
So you want to give yourself a mental disorder with psychosis and paranoia.
@@MrCmon113 "I think a rollercoaster should be thrilling and fast!"
🤓-"So you think rollercoasters should go so fast that you die from g-forces or get flung into pavement."
Something I've found interesting in my own experience with horror is coming back to pieces of media I used to enjoy a decade ago and reassessing how I feel about it now. Like with what you said about The Blair Witch Project, I recently re-watched Marble Hornets for the first time in a handful of years. I feel like when I first watched it, I only really appreciated the paranoia of 'spooky big bad right around the corner' but as the years have worn on, I've found that it's the deeper themes that really get to me.
While paranoia is definitely a core theme of the series, there is also this whole idea of retreading old relationships and discovering that the people you knew weren't really who they were. That the way you remember or experienced an event might not be true, and that people around you might have good reason to lie. There's also this sense of chasing this nostalgia that isn't really there, holding onto the past vs trying to move forward, and how not learning to grow as a person can cost you everything.
Well said! Much better than what I could have thought up 👍
Psychological horror is my personal favorite. Theres nothing scarier than uncertainty around what is real.
I often find myself seeing certain horror art beautiful, rather than getting scared or getting a sense of paranoia. I think your art is a wonderful example. It's creepy and scary, but i find it very pretty and intricate rather than something to be afraid of.
I completely agree, its really pleasant to look at to me
YES! I didn't find his illustrations scary, I thought they looked cool, so aesthetic, I found myself looking at some of them and trying to think of an appropriate kit as if they were League of Legends champions :D
I find this type of art oddly comforting as it feels like it’s pulling back the curtain and showing the deeper reality that seems more honest than this reality
Lake Mungo was so underrated. I remember checking to verify it was a horror mockumentary instead of a straight documentary because of how realistic and understated the actors were. Like yeah, I didn't believe what they were claiming but I believed THEY believed it. The phone scene made me gasp precisely because it was so quiet up until then. I cried through unsettled tears.
I genuinely can't believe people find that movie good. Me and my partner searched the entire thing and I was pissed off at the end. Felt like I wasted my entire movie night really. There's so many better options for under rated horror movies but God damn I hate this stupid movie. I'm not a dumb movie goer by any means. It follows was refreshing I fucking hate Mungo.
@@thelemon5069 that's ok, different people can find different things scary. It's why genres exist.
@@thelemon5069 Ouch, I feel like you missed out if you failed to recognise the greatness in that movie. And apparently not a dumb movie-goer? Well, well.
This was amazing and insightful. As a horror fan for most of my life, I very very very rarely come across something that does anything than put me at a slight dis-ease, and I honestly forgot that it's not supposed to be that way. I recently started seeing someone who's incredibly easily spooked and hides behind me whenever we watch scary movies, even at the scenes I feel to be incredibly cheap/not scary/easy to see coming, etc. It was interesting
In the last few years what has shook me is the idea of “human trafficking” - it has really gotten under my skin.
There are certain types of people in that industry that not only causes that daily trauma to hundreds of thousands of kids but I found out that they can program said children into having complex trauma disorders that causes them to have alternate personalities of their abusers and this shit is very real and very terrifying. I looked it up it's called RAMCOA DID systems and holy shit it made me hate humanity even more
Wym?
@@Helperbot-2000 some movies/ ideas i find very scary , and try to avoid.
@@eclat4641 so human trafficking as horror stories or do you mean something else?
@@Helperbot-2000 yes. That purely as a story- i find extremely disturbing.
This video actually got me on a personal level. I have lately found myself in conversations with friends talking about all this horror stuff because I too, am a big fan of the genre, and often mentioning “but I’m desensitized to it” in the end or something (Most of these conversations took place online, though).
But this video had me consider certain things about what is and isn’t the result of desensitization. For example, I once saw a video on RUclips that had rather unnerving elements and displayed horror well- yes, it was an analog horror episode. I did in fact have trouble sleeping that night. But after a while, I can go back to it without being scared at all, even watch it multiple times and still sleep fine. I already knew what was going to happen in the video, and so when I watch similar videos, I’m not as scared because I’ve already seen it.
Then along comes a completely different kind of video; I’ll say this one specifically, i think it was a restored vhs tape posted online of a visual retelling of one of Edgar Allen Poe’s stories paired with voiceover. I knew the story, I was already well familiar with old-vhs style, how different could this be? Yet somehow this video managed to combine eerie music with long pauses of silence in the background (and good voice acting might I add) and suddenly I was just as uneasy as the first video I mentioned made me feel.
Meanwhile I see people playing these recently popular games, and they are scared, but I look at the gameplay and go, “maybe it’s a little spooky, but I wouldn’t be screaming my head off like that.” Then again i guess if they weren’t screaming loudly they wouldn’t be as entertaining to watch and wouldn’t be making the commentary.. But I’m aware some people actually react that way
My personal conclusion being thus, you’re desensitized if you expect it or have already seen it before, but you’re not desensitized if the horror doesn’t scare you simply because it’s not for you. What defines what “for you” is, is your personal experiences. I know this reply is a bit long.. I mean it’s an entire essay, in fact.. But I just wanted to say all of this because I haven’t actually felt this engaged by ideas presented in a video before.
Also I find your art very inspiring to me because I love drawing spooky stuff from time to time. I sadly don’t do it as often anymore because I sometimes feel like I’ve lost interest but your stuff is a real motivator for me to remind me that horror art doesn’t have to be the same old thing, it can be anything as long as it strikes the right place. :)
Actually wait this might be a little TOO long now that I look back at it
@@BillCipherRealityEh, I've read longer, you're fine.
Definitely gotta say, I agree with your points, here.
I've personally come to view psychological horror as the most effective, especially ones that hit upon my most engrained fears. Gore can still make me squeamish, at times...but it's the more subtle dread-the things that latch onto the mind, over time, and can haunt and chip away at one's sanity-that I find is the most effective part of horror.
oml Noroi The Curse mention!!!!!!! that one is one of my all time favorites because for most of it the feeling isnt scared or super sad (for the most part) its about the confusion and the connection that you form with the characters, and finally the heartbreak of one of the most horrific endings ive ever seen!
Based on how I see it, some of the things that are truly horrifying are things that are in some way incomprehensible or intangible. Like the fear of forgetting or the fear of the unknown.
Fear of forgetting is a big one for me. For example dementia scares the hell out of me. I just imagine forgetting things one by one till I end up like my grandmother shuffling peas round her plate because she forgot they were for eating, and every time someone showed her it was like a revelation form the heavens, because it never stuck. She would forget again each time. I imagine being aware that I'm forgetting but being powerless to do it. Like forgetting my sons exist and then they jog a memory and I'm relived - but also knowing one day the memory will not be jogged. They will be lost to the fog and become permanent strangers pretending to be my sons trying to trick and torment me with their lies and impersonations.
Have you listened to EATEOT?
what really gets me in the fear of the unknown and uncertainty, that’s why the first season of stranger things is so good to me compared to the other seasons because where Will was and the demogorgon and the upside down was a mystery that we didn’t know much of. it seemed hard to survive but then in like season 4 some of the main characters walk through the upside down with no mystery and danger. we know what the upside down is now and it’s no longer a sense of the unknown
and then it becomes a place to face melt with a kick ass metallica shredding session. lol i kid i still like the show and eddie went out like a boss but it did really kill the horror aspect
@@guitarman0365inherent nature of a series. Things have to be unknown or not traditionally defeatable in order to be scary. A series cant progress if enemies cant be defeated and no info has to come out to hook in audiences
Same feeling with the Dunes in Subnautica.
Exactly that’s the best way to explain what is truly horrifying. For example subnautica, all you hear is screams from giant creatures while you are exploring the wide depths of the oceans on an alien planet. Subnautica isn’t even a horror game yet I’ve seen more ppl be scared of it than in any other horror game or movie. The fear of the unknown is the best and most scary horror theme imo. It also perfectly plays along with psychological horror which is kind of the same imo so I’ll put them in the same tier. Also a reason why the og backrooms were terrifying. Goofy humpscares and half hearted chase scenes where the camera swings around the entire time to the point where you can’t even see anything is not good and def not scary. For horror content to be good it also needs to be creative and unique. Extremely creative and unique to be exactly. You can’t just copy and paste it changing out some parts and calling it a day
My introduction to scp was a real good example for me.
The stories and creatures stuck with me. Theres one aquatic scp that if u know its description and the way it looks it drags u underwater. Wether thats a lake or a drop of water.
Stuff like that really had me creeped out late at night, especially when i was home alone.
My favorite kind of horror is the horror that usually pops up when you search . on RUclips. Most of isnt jumpscares but is just unsettling. It could be some creepy guy in a room that just says something random like "why did you leave me here" or something. It isn't outright terrifying it's just unsettling.
The Boy and the Bath comes to mind, it's worth checking it out
That one called starving fucked me up pretty good for awhile
as someone young who wants to do art but with the slight twinge of horror, your content has to be some of the best to come to for advice and inspiration and thats just one of the many reasons i appreciate your content
I like some horror, but I don't need psychological damage.
I've been a hard horror fan for decades, and I've learned that there are a few things that genuinely scare me (impossible situations, loss of self/sanity), a lot of things that don't scare me at all (slashers, jumpscares, ghosts, normal stuff), and a handful of things that disturb me so hard I absolutely cannot touch them without triggering a panic attack (nonconsentual body modification, sexual sadism, prolonged animal cruelty).
Given this, I personally don't feel desensitized at all. Just last week I finished reading PTSD Radio and it scared the crap out of the the entire time. It reaches that 'sweet spot' for me between 'This isn't scary for me" and "This is leaving actual emotional scars" for something challenging in the best way.
Everyone has a different 'sweet spot' in terms of horror content. Something great about horror as a genre is that it encourages the consumer to discover these parts of their own psyche. Why does nonconsenting body modification give me a panic attack? Is it because I've had medical issues in childhood? That's something I can explore and therefore learn more about myself and how my mind works.
real horror when you mix in depression and sadness Psychedelics are just an exceptional mental health breakthrough. It's quite fascinating how effective they are against depression and anxiety. Saved my life.
Can you help with the reliable source I would really appreciate it. Many people talk about mushrooms and psychedelics but nobody talks about where to get them. Very hard to get a reliable source here in Australia. Really need!
Is he on instaagram?
Microdosing helped me get out of the pit of my worst depressive episode, a three year long episode, enough to start working on my mental health.
Can dr.porass send to me in UK?
@HAMZAPINE you cant fool us doctor porass we know its you
Well done video
I think much like anything in media it all comes down to dollars and cents, the wider public audience has shown they do not want to be scarred for life, they want quick and cheap thrills and then to move on to whatever it was they were doing before, Hollywood understands this and that's why most western horror is the same formula of cheap scares and surface level "horror" that rarely ever breaks the mold. I'm glad at least that it's been slowly getting a bit better and I hope it continues to improve because horror still has so much potential to be better.
btw, i think that second piece, the one with the realistic mouth with a thin streak of blood dripping from it, immediately gave me like primal fear, your art is soo cool man. as a young kid, i never watched too many horror movies or media, so a lot of horror stuff is still fresh for me. like everyone says that jumpscares don't scare them anymore, but they do for me, i hate loud noises and the surprise keeps me on my toes for 10 minutes minimum. i also hate spiders, like the animal crossing tarantula funnily enough strikes primal fear in me. existential horror is one that does it for me, something about how it's slightly relatable makes it terrifying to think about. oh also that hellmari thing from omori scared the crap out of me. basically if you want to scare me, make extremely realistic up close hairy spiders and realistic human features that are slightly messed up (you're great at this)
Wasn't sure what to expect when I saw this pop up in my feed but I'm very glad I found it, this is a great little discussion and I'd definitely be interested to see more. Plus I just have to say your art is gorgeous! Every piece you've shown here is utterly mezmerizing and it's fascinating seeing how you create them, that's a subscribe from me just to see more of these.
For me, I wouldn't say I'm so much desensitized as for a long time I've struggled to find horror media that really gets me on a deep level. Slashers, goreflicks and big spooky supernatural stories can still be great but a fair amount of the the mainstream stuff can feel more entertaining that truly terrifying. I can jump and have my heart racing during the film or game or book, but the moment it's over that's it. It's a thrill not a lingering dread, and as a horror writer myself it's something I've often struggled to tap into for my own work. But I've found the indie scene much more effective at this as things like youtube shorts/series and especially indie horror games are far more willing to focus on atmosphere and psychological horror over big scares. In fact there have been a couple of games that have finally been able to create that deeply upsetting dread that goes on way after finishing them, so I think a lot of it comes down to what works for different people.
I was watching Ju On Origins on Netflix and what horrified and stayed with me was the parts where they had used real life events in the show, more than the ghost and the jump scares had scared me. Same with Incantation. The fact that the little girl was suffering bothered me more than the deity at the end.
Its always the horror artists that are so damn chill.
Love your channel man, you inspire me
I think some of the issue is how horrifying real life has gotten... Its kinda hard to take popular horror movies seriously when I have to go home to the existential dread. The boogey man was fun before I met him.
The things that always made me feel weird was drawing mutilated self portraits, me in pain, me screaming, me turning personal failures into diseases that afflicting me in the photo. I don’t show many people them. But imagine drawing yourself after 60 years of smoking. You looking in the mirror 25 years from now if you didn’t find love. What would the stare at myself look like. So I draw it. One of my favorites I did is of myself at 18 with bubbling boils forming up from neck to my eyes. It represented not being able to express myself through art felt like a disease pushing out. It makes me sad and worried about things that actually affect me. Adding modern horror affects to these ideas to afflictions of self portraits. I always like games that can say your name by accident. I setup a blind playthrough of fallout 4 and set the name to my girlfriend’s name. When she played through she would feel creeped out that somehow the game knew who she was. The robots and side characters in the beginning are somewhat nice, but it felt weird. I would love to see a game or horror movie with AI that puts you on the screen or in the game without you realizing, or you walk in a room and it’s your room. The fear of something that shouldn’t be anything but consumed media knowing you is unsettling. Imagine seeing a painting that characters shift to your family members. It directly pulls you and demands you to address your feelings in that situation. I highly recommend Pickmans model by HP lovecraft to be the aura you should try to pull from your art whether it be audio, graphic, or video.
Tbh what scares me varies very wildly depending on my anxiety. I had a phase where I watched all of the final destination movies and was terrified of leaving the house for months, and another where I could watch very violent cartel ex*cution videos and not think twice over them. Personally I prefer being afraid of violence and horror because being desensitized to that kind of stuff leaves you very empty. I like being scared bc it reminds me of my humanity somewhat.
Im not experienced with horror but things that i have found out about myself it that when there is a game, drawing or film that has something gruesome than most of the time im not effected by it. When looking at the drawings you made im just fascinated by the characters. But if i see something mildly gruesome IRL than i couldn't handle it
One of the best pieces of horror media I know and love to death is The Magnus Archives- a long-running horror anthology series done entirely through video. Many of its episodes left a deep pit of true dread in my chest after listening, or made my skin crawl, others fascinated me, but it takes from all walks of fear. It takes from disgust and revulsion, from psychological terror, from liminal spaces, body horror, madness, uncanniness, anything you can think of. And it’s wonderful.
It has a tendency to take classic horror tropes and monsters (such as werewolves, vampires, zombies,monsters under the bed, and even the grim reaper) and put a unique, individual spin on it unlike most else you’ve seen while still maintaining the original concept at its core. Truly fantastic series.
I would HIGHLY recommend it for horror buffs who have yet to experience it and feel like the current state of most horror media leaves something to be desired.
I got into horror because I used to be terrified of everything! Horror honestly helped me see most things aren't as scary as they seem.
I still enjoy some mainstream horror movies if they are entertaining, but I also find psychological horror to be the genre to still scare me. I think the Faith horror series is a good mix of both visual and psychological horror for example.
Love your art by the way! I my not find most pieces scary, but I find them morbidly beautiful and I like reflecting on them.
you know, the behind the scenes of the Blair Witch Project is crazy to me because they had the cast know almost nothing about the plot so every reaction in the movie really is full of genuine emotion and confusion and paranoia, adding to that, the atmosphere of being lost in the woods with randomized cues that some of the production members knew and others didn’t. had it been done any other way i think the impact wouldn’t have been the same
Lake Mungo is truly a classic. Amazing. Unforgettable.
What's interesting about horror for me is that everything scares me. I don't even have to watch horror movies to be paranoid at night. But I've always loved the stories that come with the horror genre and how characters can be portrayed in that setting. It's creepy, and it brings out a different side of the human psyche.
Now, not a lot of things used to scare me when it comes to actual horror media, but what started to get me spooked again was actually weirdcore esque reality bending, along with psychological horror. To know that something's happening that *shouldn't* be able to happen, in any stretch of the imagination with seemingly no rhyme or reason leaving you to question your own sanity and sense of reality? It always leaves me feeling weird and creeped.
Same
Usual horror things like creatures, ghosts and monsters give me some hope that there's something out there and the world isn't just... This. To me, actual horror is really grounded stuff and how "bland" and cold this world can be. Something like the fear of not accomplishing anything in life, misery and such. There are things that bother me, sure, but fearing things... I feel like the reality we live in is enough.
Recently started listening to the Magnus Archives, and Episode 1 immediately hooked me. The idea of a hunter that poses as human, but doesn’t actually chase its prey is a fantastic idea.
"Hey mate, got a light?"
I'm excited for you! I hope you enjoy it, and haven't been spoiled too much yet.
have fun with the magnus archives!
The Magnus Archives is amazing. The further you go the deeper it gets in terms of lore and world building.
alright that's enough yapping give me a cigarrette
This helps me a lot actually. For years now I have been searching for a piece of media or real-life phenomenon that may scare me or unsettle me, but I just never could. Thanks for making this video, and great work!
I used to think that I wasn’t into horror, but then I read American Psycho. Holy shit. It’s the only book that’s actively made me put it down and just stare. You just need to find what horror means to you.
I have heard the book is crazy…
I remember watching the Sixth Sense when I was 10 years old and it scared me absolutely silly. Come to find out it's not even a horror movie, it's some "paranormal thriller drama" or something. Also I find the social evolution of zombies pretty interesting. Back in the 1950s, I recall a lot of old black and white movies said that the fear of the zombie was "assimilation". Now, it's about social dyscohesion. It's about the ripping apart of niceities and convention nowadays.
I completely agree with this, I thought for the longest time that I was desensitized to horror (which i have been consuming since a young age), but it turns out that I'm just continuing further into the feeling of fear, and the media im consuming is failing to keep up. Its quite difficult finding certain media up to my level of impressions when it comes to horror and scary things, because of how widespread the promotion is of classic slasher and 'gore' media (mainly horror), which isnt even portrayed that well.
I think that horror stems from how honest it is. The more honest the less scary. As humans we fear the unknown more than most things, and therefore seeing a giant bloody monster tickles the part of our brain that recognizes "oh it's a big scary monster." While seeing a shadow on the dark with a bright white smile, it's there, it's gone, was it even there? That makes us much more afraid because we can't asses the threat and don't know how scared we should be
The one’s that really get me is when it holds on the f’d up monster or whatever and it has an alien form of sentience. It doesn’t simply demands your attention with cryptic messages with just enough for your brain to draw connections but the message is eerie and terrifying. When it plays with fear and some other emotion it makes me feel like it’s real in someway, some analog horror definitely gets this out of me for sure.
I think the important thing to remember is that horror to most people is fictional. If someone asks me if I'm afraid of horror, no, because I know it isn't real. Would I be afraid of something actually trying to kill me? Sure. It isn't fearlessness that makes you immune to horror, it's learning that fiction can't hurt you.
but most fiction is supposed to move you in some way by investing you - you're not supposed to be thinking about the fact that it's fiction the whole time and completely dismiss things like character motivations or sadness or etc. so why would fear specifically be different ?
@@Envy_May I can watch a horror movie and understand that a scene is scary without feeling fear, just like I can look at the deplorable actions of a villain without feeling real hatred, and I can look at a beautiful heroine without actually feeling love. Sure, a movie can make me sad, or make me shed a tear at how beautiful a scene is, but I still know it's fiction. I know no one died, no day was saved, these people don't exist, and nothing can really hurt me.
@@Envy_May you don't have to think about it being fiction the whole time, it's more like, when you put the movie or the book away, you can disengage with it. Maybe in the moment it scares you, captivates you, etc - but you can choose to step away from those emotions in a way that's harder with reality.
@@amoureux6502 ah, well i thought op was implying not even feeling fear _in the moment_ - whether it lingers afterwards or not is kind of its own whole thing, i feel
That's not how it works.
Would you be fine with going alone to a graveyard in a forest at night and digging up some old corpses?
That's 100% safe. But I bet you would be spooked. Bcs you're influenced by horror media and cultural narratives even when you KNOW there's no threat.
many pieces of horror content can still scare me, but specific types of horror ive become desensitized to, mostly because of trauma
For me, it's when there is people, but they can't see something is wrong. They won't help you, they won't realize you're actually dying.
I enjoy horror, sometimes mainstream, but mostly analog or indie. Stuff like No Trough Road, Local 58, Hiimmarymary, RADAR, GREYLOCK, Winter of ‘83, Skinamarink, the first Alien movie, The Blair Witch Project, and games like Presentable Liberty, Lorns Lure, Fran Bow, etc, etc. Most of these things didn’t really leave a mark on me, except for Fran Bow, GREYLOCK, and Presentable Liberty, so I’ve always felt “left out” in the horror genre. I’m a horror writer/Artist, even if my works don’t scare me, I still put in the time/effort to make them good, and I really do enjoy making horror. Perhaps I haven’t found my niche that will frighten me yet, but even if I don’t ever find it, I’ll still love crafting these terrifying creatures and worlds.
i JUST got to know more about you, and honestly your art and commentary are genuinely so amazing, i want to see more of this for sure, cause it felt more like a one to one conversation to me, unlike how most commentaries can be like, as for my experience with horror, i still get spooked and jump scared a lot, thankfully too, cause i just haven't been as up-to-date as i would be say 4 years ago, and feeling this type of dread in horror games, movies, and more is literally the best ever. please keep up the amazing work, i truly know that deep inside i'll be enjoying watching more in the future!
true horror is being scared to go to sleep and lying motionless in your bed because your brain thinks something you saw in a video/movie/whatever is somewhere in your room and can't stop imagining that, even with a nightlight to keep the room from being completely pitch-black
probably my most recent fright came from... an unlikely place. zeurel's animation of vinesauce joel playing nun massacre "the night of the nun", more specifically this one scene where joel walks into a room, turns on a lighter and, in an easily-missed detail, there's this tall, ghastly figure back in the corner of the room behind joel... i wasn't able to sleep in my room that night because that image of that pale, inhuman form in the far corner of my room burned itself into my mind and _that_ is what it means for something to be scary.
you might not freak out from it at first but when you're alone, at your most vulnerable, your mind brings these terrors back up to you and then you understand what it truly means to be kept up at night.
I agree
Yeah that's why I think horror sucks in general.
It's never scary in the moment, but it makes you paranoid for a long time afterwards. Even if it doesn't keep you from doing what you usually do, it still gives darkness a bad taste.
I find analogue horror content on youtube is scarier than many movies are these days. They usually portray their stories as if they could happen to us, the audience, bringing a sense of realism to their story. That makes it scarier, in my opinion.
The Boiled Man from DrNoWhere has legitimately stuck with me since the video released (I happened to stumble upon it at 3 am in my room with the lights off, which helped). It freaked me out so much that I can't look it up to late into the evening because I know the thumbnail and me getting stuck in my own head will keep me up when I'm trying to get to sleep.
@@warweasel2832 don't do stuff like that late at night. trust me, BAD idea. i've lost a lot of sleep because i was an idiot and watched a spooky video on youtube lol.
@@manboy4720 Well, yeah. But sometimes you're just like "fuck it".
Also doesn't help that I suffer from mild auditory hallucinations (Hearing my name/talking in white noise, walking sounds that aren't there) and paranoid delusions that get worse under stress.
@@warweasel2832 fair enough.
also BOO!
I really wish I could enjoy analogue horror more, but a lot of it seems to be rooted in a specific sort of Christian trauma that I just don't have any context for? I think indie horror in general is seeing a boom in concepts exploring the church, and it looks so cool but leaves me feeling like a confused outsider when it ultimately doesn't hit.
The horror that speaks to me is analogue horror. Nothing makes me sick and sleepless like things like vita carnis...
I can't tell you how well the mimics managed to target my deepest fears, particularly with how they were described like any other wild creature you have keep an eye out for, making them feel ridiculously real.
Try the Boiled One. That shit had me afraid to look away, like it was going to come out of the screen.
I never understood how analogue horror is scary! It’s more confusing than anything. I never have any idea what’s going on 😭
@@DeathnoteBBthat’s honestly a big part of it for me, is that its all confusing. makes it feel like something outside of human comprehension is happening to a person or people. it’s a similar appeal as cosmic horror and body horror
@@jadesmediacorner Yeah but narratively, it’s confusing. Like it’s all images and snippets of text, sometimes a PSA video for something. It never makes enough sense to be scary. When I first got into it I went with it, like “Maybe it’ll be explained later” but most I watch just never give you anything, though I admit lots are ongoing so it’s hard to tell if it’s never going to be explained or it will one day
how am i desensitized when I don't even like horror, I don't get it...
However... When I have nightmares... once in a great while I have the most horrific nightmares ever. Like realistic and actual real people dying in real ways... brutally. And it's so shocking and scary. I hate it so much. It's like my stupid brain goes "ok very little will scare me so I have to try extra hard to make this nightmare affect me" and then it does it too well.
I had a really strange and unpredictable experience recently with an artwork a friend of mine made. TW: Literal mentions of not safe for life stuff, and MLP...
They showed it during a Discord voice call and I was unintentionally disturbed more than I might've been in a decade. Context: I do make some scary stuff sometimes, and some gore stuff sometimes, nothing crazy, I always want my bloody or visceral pieces to have a meaning, to be political, etc. never just aimless creepyness or anything... now.. I literally get references from real videos of people getting killed. If anyone is unaware, its LAUGHABLE how easy it is to just seek those out on the internet, it's literally 1 google search away.. and I'm not bothered by them, I see the opportunity in them to make my works better. I'm also vegetarian, (only not fully vegan because I currently share food budget with family). The reason is simply because of the cruelty of the animal product industry.
One of my friends is a My Little Pony fan artist who makes cute stuff. 0 gore or anything, just cute cuddly animals, ponies, furries, sometimes nice people. They showed a piece in a group voice call that was an MLP OC, who was based on bacon. Literally the pony had a tail that was a piece of bacon, and had the vertical lined burn marks on their back like a piece of grilled meat. If I remember correctly the mane of the pony was also made out of bacon. This picture was meant to be cute, the character was a happy OC character piece that was based on a food item, like characters based on fruits or something. I had to get up and go to the bathroom, and I was about 3 seconds away from actually throwing up.
That cute MLP fan art evoked a visceral reaction to me that was worse than when I saw things I shouldn't mention on youtube, like real videos where people start with a person who has a head.. and no longer has one by the end of the video. I'm literally not bothered by seeing actual people dying on camera. I almost threw up all over my desk upon seeing a fun MLP fan art. I never told my friend, I just pretended I left for a minute to get something, I don't want them to be self conscious about it. Unironically it was the most unintentionally messed up piece I've seen, possibly ever.. If it was just MLP horror art of any kind it wouldn't have bothered me at all. The way the animal cruelty was combined with cuteness, made by a person who literally seen no issue with it made it much worse than anything I can ever recall seeing.
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Such an interesting comment. In my case, drumroll, I found out that I'm disgusted by sponges. Literal kitchen sponges. Shivers run down my body when I imagine squeezing it, eugh
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perspective is extremely interesting. i think maybe people dont really get "desensitized" they just have their sensitivities shifted, like, the sensitivity doesnt go away completely its just your sensitivity for humans getting relocated into sensitivity for animals. reminds me of how i sometimes have nightmares that are completely bonechilling while i am experiencing them but seem very silly once i actually wake up. idk if the idea of people having a finite specific amount of sensitivity that cannot be increased or reduced has any merit to it or if im just making shit up.
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@@justalex_ai3075_You hear a voice coming from your closet..._
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Im afraid of really specific things - the ocean is terrifying because its an incredibly powerful force of nature i have no control of myself in. Disjointedness or broken bodies - I dont know how to describe it all that well aside ; A torn off limb is just an object to my brain. It still clearly tells me something is wrong , its not attached to the body anymore and my brain can see it as something on its own now. But when its still attached, broken, mangled, its still part of the host and isnt its own thing. Its beyond something wrong to me.
Another thing - cant do thinks that writhe. Maggots will make me cry . Its mire a strong disgust than fear but i will straight run tf away if i see them
I think the problems with horror are the problems with entertainment in general. No one wants to do something different anymore. Alien was new at the time, but now everyone is familiar with "monster in tight space hunting us down" so no one cares anymore.
Realistically the scariest thing that gets everybody is the fear of the unknown. Not knowing how you should feel when shown something surreal. Partly why I’ve clung to cosmic horror so much even though lovecraftian stuff is way too overdone. Basically give me cosmic horror that isn’t lovecraftian in an interesting setting with interesting themes and it’s eye candy for my lust of being scared.
psychological horror is usually one of the only things that can scare me . well-placed fourth wall breaks can also be good but are often overused . its not too hard to scare me or evoke any other extreme emotion of of me if i am "in the zone" and invested the media im consuming at that moment
Problem is psychological horror is the most difficult to do. Subtlety and skill are key. Stray even a little off the mark, and it ends up stupid. The good stuff is unsettling and stays under the skin for years, even decades.
The kind of horror that intrigues me the most is where something is scary, but you wanna approach them. Or a creepy cute kind of character.
i love horror and definitely have been scared of a lot of it but the only piece of media that has really kept me up at night was Everywhere At The End of Time, the 6-hour dementia simulation. i was genuinely terrified for days after listening to it, and it kinda changed my view on horror. because what can be scarier than having your entire mind work against you? if you’re forgetting everything then do you still really exist? it’s so much worse than a quick death, so it’s way more anxiety-inducing to me
Imo depends on the speed forgetting and what's left.
If you're just instantly replaced, you died imo. But if after 10 million years none of your original memories are left, it's hard to say you died.