In spite of how early the games were, this has been my favourite match to follow in quite a while. Thanks so much to all of you guys for putting on a great broadcasts and pumping out these recaps. No engines, no bullshit!
Thanks Jesse and everyone at the Dojo for the very entertaining engine-less live commentary. Some chess lovers based in Singapore prefer your channel than watching from the venue's viewing room (where you can't talk or use phones).
From Gukesh's play we learn that playing on will bag you some wins from drawn positions. From Ding's play, we learn that playing for a draw is the easiest way to get a loss.
The sensei did a great job covering the match, and the recaps I've watched have also been great. Overall, the whole affair of the match was great, with one exception, Ding's blunder. That was painful to watch.
For all the games in this match, I've watched the with-engine and the no-engine recaps, but this is only one I can truly say that the no-engine analysis added a lot that I didn't get from the with-engine recaps.
Here’s a crazy butterfly effect. In the 2023 World Cup Quarter-Finals. Fabi was playing Leinier Dominguez-Perez, and in the first game Leinier got a winning position. However Fabi defended and they drew. In the second game Fabi won which secured him qualifying for the candidates. However if Fabi would’ve lost that match he would’ve still qualified to the candidates through the FIDE Circuit which he won. And how did Gukesh qualify for the candidates in the first place? That’s right if Fabi would’ve lost that match Gukesh wouldn’t be world chess champion.
Interesting to see how two people approach the same position completely differently. On one hand hikaru described a4 as the worst move in the past 2-3 championships, sensei thought it was a textbook move. Really fascinating seeing how rich a seemingly normal move can be.
I hope Ding can find the motivation and joy for chess to return to his best again. That said he still made it more competitive than most people thought. For Gukesh the best is yet to come it seems.
Alright, let me adress the elephant in the room : am I the only one who thinks that maybe, just maybe, Ding Liren wanted to lose - or more precisely, wanted to end the pressure that every world champion must face - and was waiting for an opportunity, the least obvious opportunity, to do so?
this left a bad taste in my mouth. the title was not won but lost to a high school level blunder. a forced three move sequency has to be seen. with magnus being active the title is already a little iffy, but ending like this... man... that was not a WC just like Kasparov predicted
I mean, that's fine, but both Kasparov and Magnus have made massive blunders in their world cup matches too. We simply don't remember them because most of the rest of the time, they play far better. But, yes, neither of the players here played their best, I'm afraid. Gukesh, you know, cuz he's quite young and inexperienced in this sort of event, and Ding, well, he just isn't the same.
@@antiksur8883 rook f2 was a high school level move, i dont recall such a simple blunder by magnus. its a 3 move forced sequence, i really would like to see such a blunder by magnus. in game 12, where ding won he missed the most simple knight a7 to win the exchange. he said it afterwards that he didnt see the move, thats nuts for this level. i mean thats something i would be ashamed in my 1700 blitz games. earlier this year ding blundered an obvious mate in two. against magnus. i am sorry but this is not 2800 level chess. not even close. and the fact that gukesh went for 14 games means neither his play was. the games he lost looked like a 2300 playing a 2650. if u put these matches in a guess the elo by a super gm they would often say 2500, this game 14 probably 2100
Well deserved blunder, all his weeny attitude throughout the match, like not even pushing when he had the advantage, eventually came back to bite him. Deservedly, the guy who didn't let up and was playing for results from Game 1 through Game 14 wins it in a special moment handed down by the heavens. Gukesh wasn't extraordinary in this match, but it's great to see a motivated, mature young lad who doesn't shit on classical and has full intention of playing on in tournaments and having a long career win this. He has years to make leaps in his chess skill.
@@gunnarschneider5573 thats easy for you to say when you are playing over the computer eating chips and listening to music. Playing OTB in a WCM is a diffrent story. The amount of pressure you are under allows for even the most experience players to make moves like this. In the end Ding IMO did great considering what his expectations were. Everyone and I litreally mean EVERYONE said that Ding was going to get destroyed and annihalted by Gukesh and that isnt what happened. far from it.
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In spite of how early the games were, this has been my favourite match to follow in quite a while. Thanks so much to all of you guys for putting on a great broadcasts and pumping out these recaps. No engines, no bullshit!
So glad you enjoyed it! 🙏
Thanks Jesse and everyone at the Dojo for the very entertaining engine-less live commentary.
Some chess lovers based in Singapore prefer your channel than watching from the venue's viewing room (where you can't talk or use phones).
Thank you for the recap. :)
Our pleasure!
Such dedication from Jesse to keep slipping in the "asterisk" or doubts about whether this was a WC, all the way to the end. "It was a great match" 😂
From Gukesh's play we learn that playing on will bag you some wins from drawn positions. From Ding's play, we learn that playing for a draw is the easiest way to get a loss.
The sensei did a great job covering the match, and the recaps I've watched have also been great. Overall, the whole affair of the match was great, with one exception, Ding's blunder. That was painful to watch.
Thank you for the recap and ,also loved your broadcast throughout the match, having all three sensei together is always a treat ❤️
Glad you enjoyed it! 🙏
For all the games in this match, I've watched the with-engine and the no-engine recaps, but this is only one I can truly say that the no-engine analysis added a lot that I didn't get from the with-engine recaps.
Thanks for that!
Here’s a crazy butterfly effect. In the 2023 World Cup Quarter-Finals. Fabi was playing Leinier Dominguez-Perez, and in the first game Leinier got a winning position. However Fabi defended and they drew. In the second game Fabi won which secured him qualifying for the candidates. However if Fabi would’ve lost that match he would’ve still qualified to the candidates through the FIDE Circuit which he won. And how did Gukesh qualify for the candidates in the first place? That’s right if Fabi would’ve lost that match Gukesh wouldn’t be world chess champion.
He was destined to win it, it looks like
Thank you for covering the match - enjoyed it ... 👍
Interesting to see how two people approach the same position completely differently. On one hand hikaru described a4 as the worst move in the past 2-3 championships, sensei thought it was a textbook move. Really fascinating seeing how rich a seemingly normal move can be.
In the reverse Blumenfeld game, Nb5 was good because black already played ...a5, so can't kick the knight, but in this game, black has ...a6.
I woke up in California and watched this, very first thing.
Waiting for the whole match recap on Dojo Talks.
Thanks for all your early morning efforts. Made it very interesting. we won 💥💥
Glad you enjoyed it!
So what’s next for Gukesh now, Magnus?
No freaking way ! Rf2 ????????????????????????? Ding just went on full suicide mode
Wasnt that position even in the Dojo endgame sparring?
Sure Ding’s a great defender, but you could also say Gukesh is a great defender.
Perhaps even a better all round player.
He was the favourite to win.
I hope Ding can find the motivation and joy for chess to return to his best again. That said he still made it more competitive than most people thought. For Gukesh the best is yet to come it seems.
Magnus has to challenge Gukesh to classical and reunify the timeline! Or even to classical 960 and change chess forever!
Gukesh would likely play in the freestyle tour. For one, he doesn't have the burden of the FIDE circuit.
Alright, let me adress the elephant in the room : am I the only one who thinks that maybe, just maybe, Ding Liren wanted to lose - or more precisely, wanted to end the pressure that every world champion must face - and was waiting for an opportunity, the least obvious opportunity, to do so?
this left a bad taste in my mouth. the title was not won but lost to a high school level blunder. a forced three move sequency has to be seen. with magnus being active the title is already a little iffy, but ending like this... man... that was not a WC just like Kasparov predicted
I mean, that's fine, but both Kasparov and Magnus have made massive blunders in their world cup matches too. We simply don't remember them because most of the rest of the time, they play far better. But, yes, neither of the players here played their best, I'm afraid. Gukesh, you know, cuz he's quite young and inexperienced in this sort of event, and Ding, well, he just isn't the same.
@@antiksur8883 rook f2 was a high school level move, i dont recall such a simple blunder by magnus. its a 3 move forced sequence, i really would like to see such a blunder by magnus. in game 12, where ding won he missed the most simple knight a7 to win the exchange. he said it afterwards that he didnt see the move, thats nuts for this level. i mean thats something i would be ashamed in my 1700 blitz games. earlier this year ding blundered an obvious mate in two. against magnus. i am sorry but this is not 2800 level chess. not even close. and the fact that gukesh went for 14 games means neither his play was. the games he lost looked like a 2300 playing a 2650. if u put these matches in a guess the elo by a super gm they would often say 2500, this game 14 probably 2100
Well deserved blunder, all his weeny attitude throughout the match, like not even pushing when he had the advantage, eventually came back to bite him. Deservedly, the guy who didn't let up and was playing for results from Game 1 through Game 14 wins it in a special moment handed down by the heavens.
Gukesh wasn't extraordinary in this match, but it's great to see a motivated, mature young lad who doesn't shit on classical and has full intention of playing on in tournaments and having a long career win this. He has years to make leaps in his chess skill.
@@gunnarschneider5573 thats easy for you to say when you are playing over the computer eating chips and listening to music. Playing OTB in a WCM is a diffrent story. The amount of pressure you are under allows for even the most experience players to make moves like this.
In the end Ding IMO did great considering what his expectations were. Everyone and I litreally mean EVERYONE said that Ding was going to get destroyed and annihalted by Gukesh and that isnt what happened. far from it.
@@gunnarschneider5573Gukesh looked like a 2300 rated player? 😂😆
What ridiculous nonsense 🙈