Good video. You missed anything about that spring-loaded thingamajig inside that goes over the end of the cutterhead and whose purpose remains a mystery (to me). You could also stand to lose that repetitious music.
Seems like a lot of work and money for a planer that does a fantastic job right out of the box. Perhaps when I need to change the blades I might upgrade to this.
Just now finished. The hardest part for me was getting the snap rings off and back on. I have a snap ring tool, but maybe it wasn't intended for rings that big. All the videos show the gearbox dangling, but jeez, it's just one more screw to get it completely out of the way. I'm happy with the quality of the cuts and the reduction in noise.
So I just did this helical upgrade on my DW735.. turned it on.. and it spins fine, even planes wood fine, but I have a slight almost like a loose or plastic tapping sound.. very slight. Not sure if that is just the new cutter head breaking in, or I screwed something up somewhere. I got all the washers in, the belt is on that I can see, all the snap rings are in. I will say when I put them in I didnt see them "snap in" to grooves.. but they weren't coming out without using the snap pliers so hoping those are ok. Not sure what else might be. Maybe the tension arm on either side?
Hi, Thanks for your comment, could you try to remove the snap ring next to the cutter head and see if the sound is gone? if the problem still exists, don't hesitate to contact our service team at service@findbuytool.com.Thanks!
The original blade shaft has a large contact area with the wood surface when used, so it is very noisy. And the harder the wood, the greater the load. Only the first use of the blade is the sharpest, and the effect is linearly decreasing later. The spiral cutter head is point-cutting, so the noise can be reduced by 30%. Carbide blade hardness can reach more than HRA90 and has four edges, the comprehensive service life is much longer than the original cutter shaft.
Thanks for watching. Actually, in terms of material, Findbuytool's cutterhead is the same as these branded cutterheads. The difference is that Findbuytool has more inserts, so the wood surface is smoother, but at the same time, the weight of the cutterhead is much higher, and when using it, you have to avoid cutting a lot for a long time to avoid overheating the motor. In addition, the spiral angle of Findbuytool is designed to be smaller and have a better price.
Just finished the install. All went pretty good except the shaft nut on the non-pully side is smaller than the original nut which means the shaft lock mechanism will not engage and lock and allow for manually locking the shaft. I'll have to block it from moving with a piece of wood. Also, the provided 19mm shaft nut socket was useless since the unit I received had a 24mm nut. Again no big deal. Hope the upgrade works.
I just spent three trips to Ace to eventually get the correct socket. This video could easily have simply mentioned the size. Short of carrying the entire planer into Ace to get it, it's just annoying. Neither the videos I've watched, nor the instructions mention the size socket needed. Just wasted at least half a day. One video even said it was a 22mm socket which is also incorrect.
I was provided with a 19 mm deep socket. That's the one thing that I never used. Anybody know what it was for. I am suspecting it was supposed to be used to insert the bearings? Like hammering on it to insert the bearings?
Oh brother, why did ya use a cloth glove at 6:15? That poor glove is gonna get grease pushed right into every crevasse and therefore your fingers. A disposable latex glove would be so much easier.
@@sergueinemitchev6014 We provide global shipping services and you can visit our website to buy it.www.findbuytool.com/collections/helical-spiral-cutterheads
Thanks for your comment, you can check this out for a affordable helical Planer www.findbuytool.com/collections/thickness-planer/products/findbuytool-fb131h-13-in-benchtop-wood-thickness-planer-with-helical-cutter-head
That is a crap demonstration of how to up grade your cutter head no explanation of what you are doing or what could happen if you do it wrong you are not showing everything that has to happen
There are indeed subtle differences between the two. The helical cutterheads have the carbide inserts mounted at a slight angle to the path of the workpiece. The spiral cutterheads have the carbide inserts mounted perpendicular to the workpiece travel. Appearing in the video is helical cutterhead.
OK, something nobody is talking about here, the full cuts per rotation based on the machines feed rate. You went from a solid three flute three effective cutting head, to a inserted four flute two flute effective cutting head.(two flutes are required to make one full effective cut) Not saying this is a huge issue for hobbyists, but what it does, is alter the math of the feedrate speeds which were based on 3 full cutting edges. By altering the feed rate speed calculation it affects surface finish. The inserted cutterhead makes more of a scallop shape per insert in the surface finish. It would be more noticeable when using the higher feed rate setting. In a nutshell, You cut 2 full cuts per rotation with the 4 row inserted head compared to the original 3 full bladed head that cuts 3 full cuts per rotation in a given distance. This inserted cutter head would work best at the lower speed setting. The only caution with carbide insert cutters that they will last a long time as long as you’re cutting in clean wood. If you have any sand, grit or possible nails, staples, etc. you can chip the cutting edge. High speed steel is cheaper and easily sharpened in these cases, an example case being live edge materials.
Just installed mine, alone, in about 45 minutes. PROBLEM: The old drive shaft key from my 3-blade shaft, doesn't fit the key slot in the FindBuyTool shaft, so I'm stuck, having to grind a few thousandths off of the old key. Wouldn't it just make more sense for FindBuyTool to furnish a new key with their cutterhead? Come on! It's worth about 5 cents! I'll update my review when finished. So excited to be DONE with the old 3-blade setup!
Any updates? Mine was also difficult to install, but in the end it fit with a little perseverance and no modifications. Everything went pretty smooth with my install except the included paper instructions stopped halfway through.
UPDATE: After grinding down the key, about .003”, it fit in, and I finished up. Total time about 45 minutes. I LOVE IT!!! If you don’t have snap-ring pliers, get some with the interchangeable round posts before installation. I’ll guess it reduced the db’s by 50%, and it just cuts like butter, leaving a great finish, for very little sanding. Reduced snipe to nearly zero. I have run it pretty hard, and it has never overheated. I wish I had made the switch years ago! Do it!
Just received my three row head for my 735 yesterday, @FindBuyTool . I want to install today but looks like I need to buy some grease/lubricant. What kind of grease or other lubricant should I use?
Hi Ryan, thanks for your comment, usually we don't need grease/lubricant to install it but if you do, any grease/lubricant would work, for your reference, one of our customers used this www.lucasoil.com/product/red-n-tacky-grease/, feel free to contact us by email service@findbuytool.com if you have further questions, Thank you for your support!
@@findbuytool So I installed the helical head on my 735. I ran some cuts and it seems to be working pretty well. The issue I’m running into is that it seems to be much louder than I anticipated, and as it slows down, it definitely makes clinking sounds. When I took the cover off, the motor is also giving off a lot of heat. Note that I used some high temp lithium grease around the bearing specifically to make sure there was no added friction with the replacement of the bearings. I followed every step in this video exactly. I am concerned that the addition of your product is doing damage to a planer I truly love.
@@RyanWattersRyanWatters Hi Ryan, don't worry, you can try removing the bracket which might be the cause of the noise, let us know if you fix this or you can email us directly if you need any help. Thanks for your feedback!
@@findbuytool The bracket that is used to lock the roller in place isn’t the issue since it makes the same noise upon slowing down even when I have that bracket removed. Can I maybe send a video to your support and you can help diagnose?
Just installed 2 row head on my DeWalt 735. Works perfect and the price is unbitable.
Good video. You missed anything about that spring-loaded thingamajig inside that goes over the end of the cutterhead and whose purpose remains a mystery (to me). You could also stand to lose that repetitious music.
Works beautifully, great purchase!
Thanks for your support, Dun!
Seems like a lot of work and money for a planer that does a fantastic job right out of the box. Perhaps when I need to change the blades I might upgrade to this.
장장 3시간 30분 걸려서 분해 조립했는데 가공소음이 1/3로 줄고 컬리티도 좋습니다
Just now finished. The hardest part for me was getting the snap rings off and back on. I have a snap ring tool, but maybe it wasn't intended for rings that big. All the videos show the gearbox dangling, but jeez, it's just one more screw to get it completely out of the way.
I'm happy with the quality of the cuts and the reduction in noise.
Thank you for your feedback, Jerry! We will continue to work hard to improve the woodworkers' experience!
So I just did this helical upgrade on my DW735.. turned it on.. and it spins fine, even planes wood fine, but I have a slight almost like a loose or plastic tapping sound.. very slight. Not sure if that is just the new cutter head breaking in, or I screwed something up somewhere. I got all the washers in, the belt is on that I can see, all the snap rings are in. I will say when I put them in I didnt see them "snap in" to grooves.. but they weren't coming out without using the snap pliers so hoping those are ok. Not sure what else might be. Maybe the tension arm on either side?
Hi, Thanks for your comment, could you try to remove the snap ring next to the cutter head and see if the sound is gone? if the problem still exists, don't hesitate to contact our service team at service@findbuytool.com.Thanks!
What type of grease is that or that is recommended?
Semi-fluid grease.
@@findbuytool please provide an example and link to a product
Just finished installing mine about 30 minutes ago. Boy what a difference over the stock blades and there is virtually no snipe.
The original blade shaft has a large contact area with the wood surface when used, so it is very noisy. And the harder the wood, the greater the load. Only the first use of the blade is the sharpest, and the effect is linearly decreasing later. The spiral cutter head is point-cutting, so the noise can be reduced by 30%. Carbide blade hardness can reach more than HRA90 and has four edges, the comprehensive service life is much longer than the original cutter shaft.
It looks good. What's the difference between this cutterhead and the more expensive cutterheads such as Byrd SHELIX Head and the Lux Cut III Head?
Thanks for watching. Actually, in terms of material, Findbuytool's cutterhead is the same as these branded cutterheads. The difference is that Findbuytool has more inserts, so the wood surface is smoother, but at the same time, the weight of the cutterhead is much higher, and when using it, you have to avoid cutting a lot for a long time to avoid overheating the motor. In addition, the spiral angle of Findbuytool is designed to be smaller and have a better price.
Just finished the install. All went pretty good except the shaft nut on the non-pully side is smaller than the original nut which means the shaft lock mechanism will not engage and lock and allow for manually locking the shaft. I'll have to block it from moving with a piece of wood. Also, the provided 19mm shaft nut socket was useless since the unit I received had a 24mm nut. Again no big deal. Hope the upgrade works.
I just spent three trips to Ace to eventually get the correct socket. This video could easily have simply mentioned the size. Short of carrying the entire planer into Ace to get it, it's just annoying. Neither the videos I've watched, nor the instructions mention the size socket needed. Just wasted at least half a day. One video even said it was a 22mm socket which is also incorrect.
I was provided with a 19 mm deep socket. That's the one thing that I never used. Anybody know what it was for. I am suspecting it was supposed to be used to insert the bearings? Like hammering on it to insert the bearings?
Same experience I had today. Have no idea what the socket is for.
I wish you narrated the steps instead of playing the music.
Oh brother, why did ya use a cloth glove at 6:15? That poor glove is gonna get grease pushed right into every crevasse and therefore your fingers. A disposable latex glove would be so much easier.
Thanks for your suggestion, David, we'll improve on that, have a nice day!
what diametr and lenght mm?
The cutterhead with inserts is about 48.5mm, length about 400mm.
@@findbuytool do you have this in moscou and sainpetetsbourg. ? To come to see and buy?
@@sergueinemitchev6014 We provide global shipping services and you can visit our website to buy it.www.findbuytool.com/collections/helical-spiral-cutterheads
I think I'm going to just buy a planer with a helical head installed. crazy
Thanks for your comment, you can check this out for a affordable helical Planer www.findbuytool.com/collections/thickness-planer/products/findbuytool-fb131h-13-in-benchtop-wood-thickness-planer-with-helical-cutter-head
At 5:30 - introduction of a hammer ... ya, I'm out.
music is absurd.
That is a crap demonstration of how to up grade your cutter head no explanation of what you are doing or what could happen if you do it wrong you are not showing everything that has to happen
That looks a lot like a spiral cutterhead, not a helical cutterhead . There is a difference.
There are indeed subtle differences between the two. The helical cutterheads have the carbide inserts mounted at a slight angle to the path of the workpiece. The spiral cutterheads have the carbide inserts mounted perpendicular to the workpiece travel. Appearing in the video is helical cutterhead.
No - it’s definitely helical.
OK, something nobody is talking about here, the full cuts per rotation based on the machines feed rate.
You went from a solid three flute three effective cutting head, to a inserted four flute two flute effective cutting head.(two flutes are required to make one full effective cut)
Not saying this is a huge issue for hobbyists, but what it does, is alter the math of the feedrate speeds which were based on 3 full cutting edges. By altering the feed rate speed calculation it affects surface finish. The inserted cutterhead makes more of a scallop shape per insert in the surface finish. It would be more noticeable when using the higher feed rate setting.
In a nutshell, You cut 2 full cuts per rotation with the 4 row inserted head compared to the original 3 full bladed head that cuts 3 full cuts per rotation in a given distance.
This inserted cutter head would work best at the lower speed setting.
The only caution with carbide insert cutters that they will last a long time as long as you’re cutting in clean wood. If you have any sand, grit or possible nails, staples, etc. you can chip the cutting edge. High speed steel is cheaper and easily sharpened in these cases, an example case being live edge materials.
Just installed mine, alone, in about 45 minutes. PROBLEM: The old drive shaft key from my 3-blade shaft, doesn't fit the key slot in the FindBuyTool shaft, so I'm stuck, having to grind a few thousandths off of the old key. Wouldn't it just make more sense for FindBuyTool to furnish a new key with their cutterhead? Come on! It's worth about 5 cents!
I'll update my review when finished. So excited to be DONE with the old 3-blade setup!
Any updates? Mine was also difficult to install, but in the end it fit with a little perseverance and no modifications. Everything went pretty smooth with my install except the included paper instructions stopped halfway through.
UPDATE: After grinding down the key, about .003”, it fit in, and I finished up. Total time about 45 minutes. I LOVE IT!!! If you don’t have snap-ring pliers, get some with the interchangeable round posts before installation. I’ll guess it reduced the db’s by 50%, and it just cuts like butter, leaving a great finish, for very little sanding. Reduced snipe to nearly zero. I have run it pretty hard, and it has never overheated. I wish I had made the switch years ago! Do it!
Just received my three row head for my 735 yesterday, @FindBuyTool . I want to install today but looks like I need to buy some grease/lubricant. What kind of grease or other lubricant should I use?
Hi Ryan, thanks for your comment, usually we don't need grease/lubricant to install it but if you do, any grease/lubricant would work, for your reference, one of our customers used this www.lucasoil.com/product/red-n-tacky-grease/, feel free to contact us by email service@findbuytool.com if you have further questions, Thank you for your support!
@@findbuytool So I installed the helical head on my 735. I ran some cuts and it seems to be working pretty well. The issue I’m running into is that it seems to be much louder than I anticipated, and as it slows down, it definitely makes clinking sounds. When I took the cover off, the motor is also giving off a lot of heat. Note that I used some high temp lithium grease around the bearing specifically to make sure there was no added friction with the replacement of the bearings. I followed every step in this video exactly. I am concerned that the addition of your product is doing damage to a planer I truly love.
@@RyanWattersRyanWatters Hi Ryan, don't worry, you can try removing the bracket which might be the cause of the noise, let us know if you fix this or you can email us directly if you need any help. Thanks for your feedback!
@@findbuytool The bracket that is used to lock the roller in place isn’t the issue since it makes the same noise upon slowing down even when I have that bracket removed. Can I maybe send a video to your support and you can help diagnose?
@@RyanWattersRyanWatters Yes, of course, glad to help, you can send it to service@findbuytool.com please.