FINALLY a "concealed carrying for runners" video that actually shows someone running while using the product! I've been looking into a lot of different options and this was the most helpful video I've come across - thank you. It doesn't seem like the crossover between distance runners and concealed carriers is very big (yet!) so it doesn't seem like there are many good resources out there. Glad you were able to find something that worked - my primary concerns are also the bouncing and printing, since I run at a fairly quick pace and also live in a very warm climate.
I experienced the same frustration when I was trying to figure it out. Sometimes product reviews would have people running with them, but they’d run away from the camera so you couldn’t actually see what was going on 🤦🏼♀️ I’m glad this one was helpful!
@@kyriewoodring1951 it’s been a few years since this video went up, and I don’t really run distance anymore, so I can’t really say. However, there are some distance runners in the PHLster Concealment Workshop on Facebook that have shared their experience training for marathons with their enigmas. I’d suggest joining that group and looking into some of their experiences for a more informed opinion 🙂
This is a great advantage of the Enigma over other holster set ups. My life is like a work out because I have two young children. I’m always lifting one or both of them. Wrestling can happen anytime too. The security of the Enigma is very appreciated in these situations.
Dave, I've thought about the Ruger LCR, but I am wondering if the steel part of the weapon (eg cylinder, trigger) rust from sweat. What's your experience, please? Thanks
Thank you so much for this. I’m a personal trainer, a mom of 3, and super active. I also wear fitted clothes and just have had the hardest time finding something that works. I received my enigma the other day and will be trying it out shortly!
@danahowerton9638 when i run, I now carry a small pouch with an index card identifying who I am and my drivers license # in lieu of carrying my actual license.
I really enjoy how in-depth this was. I was hoping to come across a video that addressed being active and having a reliable holster that is concealable, comfortable and effective at retaining the firearm. love the channel!
Good video. I agree the Enigma is a welcome solution to the issues you encounter when exercising and carrying. I have struggled with the leg leash. I have large quads and when I squat the clip has a tendency to release and then you find yourself with the leg leash hanging down from under your shorts. I have tried the mule tape which was an improvement but just ordered an Enigmod leash from Rego Concepts. If I can solve the leg leash issue I will be ready to make the Enigma my every day holster.
I went to a water bottle holding and kydex setup belt pack/fanny pack. Which works well enough, and a belt pack with a water bottle attached to it isn't out of place when running. Had to do a good amount of draw practice with it though.
Is the DIY leg leash something you could do a video on? I’ve been doing a lot of research into the enigma and the leg leash and belt comfortability are the two main issues I hear about. But it sounds like you found an easy solution to the leg leash. Maybe a two minute Tuesday video idea? If it’s something you could cover that quickly lol
Hi, do you still recommend the Enigma for runs? Weather is finally beginning to turn in Texas, so I'm looking for something as I transition from indoor to outdoor running. Thanks.
I have a Olight attached to my 9mm. Would this be a problem for this holster? Do they have an Enigma holster that will fit my gun with the Olight? The holster that I have now is perfect, and it even has a pouch to carry a magazine. The problem is that I don't like the material. It allows too much perspiration inside the holster. Plus, even though I haven't tried using it while I run (since I run inside on my treadmill), but I am pretty sure that if I did, that thing would be flopping around while getting sweat on my gun. So, I am looking for the best of both worlds. I want something like what you have but will hold it will my Olight AND carry an extra magazine. Of course, the extra magazine pouch on the holster is not a must. I use an old tactical, police light carrying case to carry another magazine. It's A LOT more comfortable than the regular magazine holders that they sell. They have those things are way up too high when you put them on your belt, and the magazine digs into 'my' side, because it's too high. This police light carrying case fixes this for me, because the top of the magazine drop to belt level. Anyway,.... That was my adventure...What do you think about the VNSH holster, 'today'? I have heard that they fixed many of the issues that people were complaining about. At least, that's what THEY are saying.
Not trying to be contentious, just curious. Isn't this a bit unnecessary? If you're working out, lifting weights, within a gym---is a firearm really needed? I can understand if somebody is running outside, solitary. The last thing I need to worry about is a firearm while I'm exercising. Maybe it's personal preference because I don't like having my gym locker key in my pocket when I'm working out.
It's less about while one is working out, and more about the transition from being inside a gym into a parking lot. Personally I wouldn't feel conformable leaving my gun in a gym locker, so having it on my person is the way to go. Although I can absolutely imagine the potential necessity for a firearm even within a gym setting.
I think it is great advice.Alot of us women can be in danger running,power walking on our own.It's good advice to feel safe when doing these activities.👍
@@MoombaMakai So sorry to hear that.If your in a state to carry a gun than do so.Make sure you research into the right gun to carry and learn about belt holders for women while you're running or even walking.I always say it's a little like sky diving.Your not going to jump without research and training.If your running with the gun remember it's loaded and you don't want anything to go wrong with the belt. (Your safely is important learning to keep the gun secure on while running) I'm glad you're really thinking about this.To many of us women get hurt and the families suffer.Self defence by carrying a gun while you're jogging is allowed.
Quick question about the Engima: what’s the difference between that and just wearing your gun belt under your shorts and over your underwear? That’s been my go-to when I lift for years and the Enigma just seems like a lot of extra steps
The enigma has 12 adjustment holes that allow you to control how much grip tuck or slide tuck you want. The leg leash aids in keeping the holster from coming up as you draw, and has been tested and passed at ECQC classes. If the belt set up is working well for you while you lift, and the enigma isn't interesting to you, then I'd say stick with what you have!
It's unfortunate that they cost so much money. For the type of material and the amount of material used for this chassis system with no holster included, the price is absurd. Then when you add the essential holster, it gets even more absurd.
Last I checked the enigma was only being made for 2 gun models? They haven’t made one for my conceal carry yet. Are there other options you have found that work well?
The enigma is not a holster, it's a chassis system. If you can find a compatible holster, then it can work with just about any concealed carry gun. It's compatible with many different guns. It is also designed for concealed carry, so I'm not sure what system you're thinking of, but it's not the enigma :) You may be thinking of the Skeleton? Which is a holster, and they are currently only making it for the 43/43X and the P365, but more models are currently in the making.
What’s the diy for the leg leash? Do I have to contact Phlster? Or is there a lonk you can share or a video in which you can demonstrate how to create it?
The Enigma Express is only designed to be used with the holster it comes with. If you want to swap holsters for aftermarket options then you will want to go with an Open Source Enigma 👍🏻
I love your channel! I like to run on trails, which unfortunately prohibit firearms. Any advice on staying safe in that situation other than avoid trail running or knowingly break the law?
I always carry pepper spray in addition to my gun whether I'm exercising or just on the day to day, so I would definitely suggest you carry a good pepper spray (POM is a good option). If you're running in a remote area, and animals are a more major concern, I would consider figuring out a way to carry bear spray also.
@@RachelDee It's not recommended to use the enigma outside of the 10-2 positions :) It's optimized for appendix carry, so anything outside of that won't conceal the same and can cause stress to the holster.
I've been looking at the enigma for a while now, was wondering where the diy leg leash is available for purchase. Btw I'd probably wait til the new belt is available before purchasing. As always ty for the video
I haven't had any major issues with that, however, this is probably the best video on the internet for solving chaffing issues while carrying: ruclips.net/video/4_OXyli4ecU/видео.html
I’m 6’1, 210 pounds and found that gun to print a lot in general. It’s a very long gun. Turned it into a nightstand gun and bought a Shield and Glock 19 as an edc
I've never needed to. Don't get me wrong, the product is a good idea, but the Enigma is just so much more low profile and practical for me than a dedicated pant with a belt and clips.
@@aubrey5569 Oh yes! It certainly solved the issues I was having at the time! Which was mainly the "feel" of the belt, and my lack of desire to wear a tank between it and my skin all of the time haha.
My initial review of the enigma disclosed more on that. I asked to purchase one before launch, and they ended up sending it to me free of charge. I wouldn’t really say that introduces bias seeing as how I sought the product out on my own and was fully prepared to pay MSRP. That said, since my initial review and since I created this video, I have started working for PHLster, so I no longer create “review” videos with any of their products seeing as how I do have a clear bias now that didn’t exist before 👍🏻
Does the belt strap or screws from the connection chaff your skin? I’ve tried the enigma as my EDC, and I it irritates my skin. Also, do you hand wash the straps? I’m guessing it gets sweaty when you’re working out.
I do hand wash them! :) Before I had the sport belt I didn't love the feeling of the belt and the connection pieces on my skin so I purchased a cover for it, and that solved the issue :)
It's definitely not suffocating haha. I prefer it for everyday wear and exercise over the original nylon belt, but for example, my husband prefers the nylon belt both for exercise and everyday. It's very much a personal preference :)
@@Blakostructr The sport belt has a slight stretch to it, but not very much. The reason you don't want very much stretch is because it will cause the gun to bounce when walking or running. The sport belt has juuuust enough stretch to allow for more comfort and mobility, but is still sturdy enough to prevent any kind of bounce :)
Oh jeez, it's been years since I've tracked that stuff. I use to be an avid runner, now I'm more of an occasional jogger. My faster 5k was 22min though :) I only did one 10k race and one half marathon, and I'm sure those times were exceptionally slow as well haha.
At the time of filming this video, no I did not. I just genuinely found that the Enigma solved problems nothing else I had tried could, as this video demonstrates. Now I actually work for them as their Director of Customer Development, which is publicly disclosed on my channel and mentioned in the individual videos for which it's relevant.
I'd say the longest was about 8 hours. I'll be making the drive from New Mexico to Georgia in December, so I'll be stacking up the driving hours some more then :)
Since I switched to a gutted paracord material I haven't felt much with chaffing or anything. Although if that's an issue with longer distances you can just wear short spandex under running shorts/leggings and wear the enigma over the spandex, but under the shorts/leggings.
The sport belt looks alot like the pad that a lot of cops put on their duty belt (molle web gear) nowadays. I would imagine of that design is able to support the 20-30lbs duty belt it will more than suffice for a workout ccw!
There are three different Enigmas, two of them come with just the chassis, and one of them (Enigma Express) comes fully assembled with the holster. PHLster does make a p365 Enigma Express 😊
Well, you certainly look fit & trim, so well done there. As for the products, nicely done representing who you are going to be working for and incorporating the knowledge you have with the former holsters and items you’ve used in the past. Excellent video and concise. You found a great niche. Hope your husband is safe on deployment.
Cool. I get buy with a larger clip for most exercises, and I use a G42 as well. I've been thinking about an an old-school LCP2 ($250 on base, tax free) but I've heard bad things about sweat and rust with those super little guys.
They actually are designing a new clip for the leash :) I still use the original clip, and have never had any issues with it. Is there a reason you didn't like it? Just to be clear, PHLster strongly recommends against removing the leg leash. It was purposefully added into the design of the enigma, and its not advised to use the enigma without.
@@tessahbooth I am a very large guy. And my legs are very large. When I do squats, run, sprints, bend over a certain way the clip pops open. My wife is a therapist and does taping for a living. We have taped the leash in place... with the flexion of my thigh I pop the clasp. If I leave it loose so it doesnt pop I will have to tape it in place every single day. I am not using sports tape every day in order to leave it loose enough to not pop the clip. The clip is way to weak. It needs a stronger clip.
@@CannonCountry PHLster has an educational resource for this very issue on their website :) The clip breaking away is a safety feature, although it is possible your was defective. Did you try emailing their customer service? www.phlsterholsters.com/whats-up-with-the-enigma-leg-leash/
@@tessahbooth Why would I want the clip to break away from my leg as I squat or run? That defeats the purpose and then becomes a major problem. I want it to work when I run and squat and do any physical movements.
@@CannonCountry It should not break away when doing those activities. The link I left above would likely be very helpful. Theres a video of someone doing movements that you just described with the leash adjusted properly. Like I said, it is possible also that your leash could be defective. I would encourage you to contact their customer service after looking at the educational resource above :)
I can understand carrying while on a run. Carrying while your weight lifting, exercising, or whatever other activity designed for physical fitness makes absolutely no sense at all. Where, when, and why?
Hi. Thanks for the content. Before I start, please understand that there is no judgement from my side whatsoever. I am assuming you live in America somewhere and if I compare your generalized live conditions and quality of life in your country VS my side of the world which is South Africa we are statistically and in real life situations a crime hotspot, something the World doesn't get told or mentioned in the media because of the whole history of the Country and and and. But even with that I and my family don't need or feel the need to own or carry guns, we live a fairly comfortable life eventho our next generation is pretty much going to need to look for greener pastures somewhere else. I'm all for guns and fully understand guns don't kill, people kill people. So in this long winded comment / question. Why do you feel the need to carry a gun in such a "safe" country? Again this is just a honest question that I don't intend to have any negative meaning in it.
Hey! Thanks for your comment. I actually just addressed this question in todays upload. You can skip to the last time card in this video: ruclips.net/video/AqVt_1aJ6lw/видео.html It’s not about whether I live in a safe area or not, it’s more about the fact that there are bad actors everywhere, and people are victimized everyday. If, in the off chance I am selected for attack, I want to be as prepared as I can be in order to prevent someone from taking my life from me.
@@tessahbooth thanks for the reply. I just watched your video 5min after I posted. As I mentioned, no judgement at all from my side, just wanted your take on why you carry. Sad fact is that in my country, if I shoot a criminal that is in my house attacking me or my family I will be in more trouble then the perpetrators. I will be arrested and will need to without a shadow of adoubt state my case that our lives where is really and imminent threat.
@@angelln25 I don't know where you are, or what the laws are in your country, but it is not uncommon for self defenders to be arrested in the US after a self defense encounter and will also have to prove that they had reason to believe that they were in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm.
The enigma is very much a gender neutral carry system. My husband also uses an enigma. He's currently carrying a comped Glock 19, with a Holoson 509t, in a PHLster Pro Series holster mounted to the standard enigma.
An assembled version is available. They can’t have an assembled version for every gun though, so there are open source versions of the enigma available with the option to purchase compatible holsters elsewhere.
I have other videos dedicated to the actual product walk through, and a pretty detailed section of my website describing it further: www.armedandstyled.net/resources/phlster-enigma For this video I felt it was more useful to focus on showing how it worked in this specific context. As of right now I'm not aware of any other videos that show someone actually running with their Enigma.
@@tessahbooth I hear ya, just odd is all. There was nothing included to actually demonstrate the functionality of the enigma is all I mean. Obv the holster holds things, but could you draw effectively still? Did your garment interfere with master grip? Was the holster itself remaining consistent in placement/position. Etc.
FINALLY a "concealed carrying for runners" video that actually shows someone running while using the product! I've been looking into a lot of different options and this was the most helpful video I've come across - thank you. It doesn't seem like the crossover between distance runners and concealed carriers is very big (yet!) so it doesn't seem like there are many good resources out there. Glad you were able to find something that worked - my primary concerns are also the bouncing and printing, since I run at a fairly quick pace and also live in a very warm climate.
I experienced the same frustration when I was trying to figure it out. Sometimes product reviews would have people running with them, but they’d run away from the camera so you couldn’t actually see what was going on 🤦🏼♀️ I’m glad this one was helpful!
@@tessahboothwhen running long distances do you ever find any chafing with the leg leash even with the softer fabric?
@@kyriewoodring1951 it’s been a few years since this video went up, and I don’t really run distance anymore, so I can’t really say. However, there are some distance runners in the PHLster Concealment Workshop on Facebook that have shared their experience training for marathons with their enigmas. I’d suggest joining that group and looking into some of their experiences for a more informed opinion 🙂
@@tessahbooth joining right now!! That sounds like exactly what I’m looking for. Thank you so much for the recommendation and quick response :)
This is a great advantage of the Enigma over other holster set ups. My life is like a work out because I have two young children. I’m always lifting one or both of them. Wrestling can happen anytime too. The security of the Enigma is very appreciated in these situations.
I just ordered one for my M&P Shield. I run 5-10 miles at a time, sometimes at night, and wanted to start carrying my gun.
The best gun I have used while running is the Ruger Lcr. It weighs like 11-12 ounces. It’s only 5 rounds, but the weight makes a huge difference.
Dave, I've thought about the Ruger LCR, but I am wondering if the steel part of the weapon (eg cylinder, trigger) rust from sweat. What's your experience, please? Thanks
@@Burps___ no rust for you! if oiled periodically.
Appreciate the hint about the new enigma belt - that’ll be a great addition. Congrats on linking up with them!
Thank you so much for this. I’m a personal trainer, a mom of 3, and super active. I also wear fitted clothes and just have had the hardest time finding something that works. I received my enigma the other day and will be trying it out shortly!
When carrying a firearm as I run, I finally realized I ought to be carrying my driver's license.
When I realized this morning I didn't have mine it was quite the fright lol hurried back home
@danahowerton9638 when i run, I now carry a small pouch with an index card identifying who I am and my drivers license # in lieu of carrying my actual license.
I really enjoy how in-depth this was. I was hoping to come across a video that addressed being active and having a reliable holster that is concealable, comfortable and effective at retaining the firearm. love the channel!
Good video. I agree the Enigma is a welcome solution to the issues you encounter when exercising and carrying. I have struggled with the leg leash. I have large quads and when I squat the clip has a tendency to release and then you find yourself with the leg leash hanging down from under your shorts. I have tried the mule tape which was an improvement but just ordered an Enigmod leash from Rego Concepts. If I can solve the leg leash issue I will be ready to make the Enigma my every day holster.
This might help also: www.phlsterholsters.com/whats-up-with-the-enigma-leg-leash/
Hill people running pack it’s probably one of the best EDC pack for running
May I just say that I adore you and the accomplishments you have maintained. I'm just and old guy who appreciates how wonderful you truly are.
A little more detail on what exactly made the Enigma work when other holsters do not would have been helpful.
Thank you so much for this! This answered every single question/concern that i had!
I went to a water bottle holding and kydex setup belt pack/fanny pack. Which works well enough, and a belt pack with a water bottle attached to it isn't out of place when running. Had to do a good amount of draw practice with it though.
What fanny pack do you have?
Is the DIY leg leash something you could do a video on? I’ve been doing a lot of research into the enigma and the leg leash and belt comfortability are the two main issues I hear about. But it sounds like you found an easy solution to the leg leash. Maybe a two minute Tuesday video idea? If it’s something you could cover that quickly lol
I don’t plan to do a video on it, but this should help! www.phlsterholsters.com/how-to-make-a-paracord-leg-leash/
Thanks to your reviews, I have decided to buy the enigma, thanks a lot.
Perhaps record a vid showing how you adjusted the leg leash? Seems the pivotal point.
PHLster has a detailed video on how to adjust the leg leash properly :) ruclips.net/video/svpfvHtJTyM/видео.html
Hi, do you still recommend the Enigma for runs?
Weather is finally beginning to turn in Texas, so I'm looking for something as I transition from indoor to outdoor running. Thanks.
Dang it, not another awesome video that's making me reeeally want the Enigma. I'm on the waiting list now, I can't wait to try it! 🤞🏻
I have a Olight attached to my 9mm. Would this be a problem for this holster? Do they have an Enigma holster that will fit my gun with the Olight? The holster that I have now is perfect, and it even has a pouch to carry a magazine. The problem is that I don't like the material. It allows too much perspiration inside the holster. Plus, even though I haven't tried using it while I run (since I run inside on my treadmill), but I am pretty sure that if I did, that thing would be flopping around while getting sweat on my gun. So, I am looking for the best of both worlds. I want something like what you have but will hold it will my Olight AND carry an extra magazine. Of course, the extra magazine pouch on the holster is not a must. I use an old tactical, police light carrying case to carry another magazine. It's A LOT more comfortable than the regular magazine holders that they sell. They have those things are way up too high when you put them on your belt, and the magazine digs into 'my' side, because it's too high. This police light carrying case fixes this for me, because the top of the magazine drop to belt level. Anyway,.... That was my adventure...What do you think about the VNSH holster, 'today'? I have heard that they fixed many of the issues that people were complaining about. At least, that's what THEY are saying.
I have a Pistol Wear PT 2 for running. It's ok, comfortable but very slow draw. Looks like I should eventually upgrade to the Enigma!
Your videos helped me a lot. Made my hikes much more comfortable.
Same opinion with the workout or beach etc., I prefer the smaller size of my p365
I miss running. I have been using a kydex IWB holster for my pistol.
Not trying to be contentious, just curious. Isn't this a bit unnecessary? If you're working out, lifting weights, within a gym---is a firearm really needed? I can understand if somebody is running outside, solitary. The last thing I need to worry about is a firearm while I'm exercising. Maybe it's personal preference because I don't like having my gym locker key in my pocket when I'm working out.
It's less about while one is working out, and more about the transition from being inside a gym into a parking lot. Personally I wouldn't feel conformable leaving my gun in a gym locker, so having it on my person is the way to go.
Although I can absolutely imagine the potential necessity for a firearm even within a gym setting.
Where can I find the Enigma holster? Wish you had a link for that. I didn't find it in your Amazon store
I think it is great advice.Alot of us women can be in danger running,power walking on our own.It's good advice to feel safe when doing these activities.👍
Agreed. UGA student was killed running a few weeks ago down the street from me and now I want to carry while running 24/7😰
@@MoombaMakai So sorry to hear that.If your in a state to carry a gun than do so.Make sure you research into the right gun to carry and learn about belt holders for women while you're running or even walking.I always say it's a little like sky diving.Your not going to jump without research and training.If your running with the gun remember it's loaded and you don't want anything to go wrong with the belt. (Your safely is important learning to keep the gun secure on while running) I'm glad you're really thinking about this.To many of us women get hurt and the families suffer.Self defence by carrying a gun while you're jogging is allowed.
This is well done and informative. Would have liked to seen how the pistol is holstered and trigger guard coverage
Thanks! It's just in a normal kydex holster on an Enigma chassis :)
Was def waiting to see that DIY solution.
Me too
Awesome, stuff got my enigma bout a month ago and have been using it as my daily driver
Quick question about the Engima: what’s the difference between that and just wearing your gun belt under your shorts and over your underwear? That’s been my go-to when I lift for years and the Enigma just seems like a lot of extra steps
The enigma has 12 adjustment holes that allow you to control how much grip tuck or slide tuck you want. The leg leash aids in keeping the holster from coming up as you draw, and has been tested and passed at ECQC classes.
If the belt set up is working well for you while you lift, and the enigma isn't interesting to you, then I'd say stick with what you have!
@@tessahbooth well said, thank you. Keep up the solid videos
Nice! I may have to give the enigma a look👊👍
Enigma with what holster. I carry a g48 with shape shift . And alien gear belly band. It's a lot of material to conceal
It's unfortunate that they cost so much money. For the type of material and the amount of material used for this chassis system with no holster included, the price is absurd. Then when you add the essential holster, it gets even more absurd.
I like your USPSA wall decor!!
Last I checked the enigma was only being made for 2 gun models? They haven’t made one for my conceal carry yet. Are there other options you have found that work well?
The enigma is not a holster, it's a chassis system. If you can find a compatible holster, then it can work with just about any concealed carry gun. It's compatible with many different guns. It is also designed for concealed carry, so I'm not sure what system you're thinking of, but it's not the enigma :)
You may be thinking of the Skeleton? Which is a holster, and they are currently only making it for the 43/43X and the P365, but more models are currently in the making.
Ah! Those are the models that I had heard about! So I’m confusing it with the skeleton.
Thanks for your recommendation!
What’s the diy for the leg leash? Do I have to contact Phlster? Or is there a lonk you can share or a video in which you can demonstrate how to create it?
Yep, here's the resource for that: www.phlsterholsters.com/how-to-make-a-paracord-leg-leash/
With the enigma express, can you buy different holsters for different guns?
The Enigma Express is only designed to be used with the holster it comes with. If you want to swap holsters for aftermarket options then you will want to go with an Open Source Enigma 👍🏻
I love your channel! I like to run on trails, which unfortunately prohibit firearms. Any advice on staying safe in that situation other than avoid trail running or knowingly break the law?
I always carry pepper spray in addition to my gun whether I'm exercising or just on the day to day, so I would definitely suggest you carry a good pepper spray (POM is a good option). If you're running in a remote area, and animals are a more major concern, I would consider figuring out a way to carry bear spray also.
Are there any trails that do not have firearm prohibitions? Also, you might want to consider running with others on those anti-gun trails, if you can.
If it's concealed, they will never know. I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
I wish PHLster would make an Enigma for strongside 4 o'clock-ish carry.
I thought the Enigma could be set up for that? No?
@@RachelDee It's not recommended to use the enigma outside of the 10-2 positions :) It's optimized for appendix carry, so anything outside of that won't conceal the same and can cause stress to the holster.
I've been looking at the enigma for a while now, was wondering where the diy leg leash is available for purchase. Btw I'd probably wait til the new belt is available before purchasing. As always ty for the video
This is an aftermarket leg leash option that I've seen a lot of people rave about :) www.levodesigns.com/product/mule-tape-leg-leash/
@@tessahbooth Ty for the reply and info
Great review! I think this could be perfect for my lady. She’s an avid jogger and tiny. Did you suffer any chafing issues? Thanks
I haven't had any major issues with that, however, this is probably the best video on the internet for solving chaffing issues while carrying: ruclips.net/video/4_OXyli4ecU/видео.html
Think it can handle a 92fs? I prefer cc full sized when doing my work outs and day to day.
I’m 6’1, 210 pounds and found that gun to print a lot in general. It’s a very long gun. Turned it into a nightstand gun and bought a Shield and Glock 19 as an edc
@@jasonk446 yeah, its really huge.Lately I go out with the sig 365 or model 36's
I was wondering if you've tried the arrowhead sweat pants with the kore essential belt for work out?
I've never needed to. Don't get me wrong, the product is a good idea, but the Enigma is just so much more low profile and practical for me than a dedicated pant with a belt and clips.
You should try out LEVO DESIGNS. It might make the enigma even more comfortable.
I use to use their papoose before I got the sport belt :)
@@tessahbooth well is it worth it... The papoose that is??
@@aubrey5569 Oh yes! It certainly solved the issues I was having at the time! Which was mainly the "feel" of the belt, and my lack of desire to wear a tank between it and my skin all of the time haha.
How do you deal with the sweat on the gun?
Good review. Just curious is this an unbiased review? Meaning did Enigma send you a holster to try? Thank you.
My initial review of the enigma disclosed more on that. I asked to purchase one before launch, and they ended up sending it to me free of charge.
I wouldn’t really say that introduces bias seeing as how I sought the product out on my own and was fully prepared to pay MSRP.
That said, since my initial review and since I created this video, I have started working for PHLster, so I no longer create “review” videos with any of their products seeing as how I do have a clear bias now that didn’t exist before 👍🏻
@@tessahbooth PS I got the Sig p365x because of your review.
I feel like the Enigma is just the best all around holster for all styles of wear.
Couldn’t agree more!
I just strip the clips of my kydex holster a duct tape it around my waist. Very very comfortable way to carry my g40
Where can I get that leash that u have I really don’t like the one it came with. Thanks
It is a DIY solution made from gutted paracord :) www.phlsterholsters.com/how-to-make-a-paracord-leg-leash/
Does the belt strap or screws from the connection chaff your skin? I’ve tried the enigma as my EDC, and I it irritates my skin.
Also, do you hand wash the straps? I’m guessing it gets sweaty when you’re working out.
I do hand wash them! :) Before I had the sport belt I didn't love the feeling of the belt and the connection pieces on my skin so I purchased a cover for it, and that solved the issue :)
@@tessahbooth thank you for the response. Can you post a link for the cover you use?
@@celenacourage3606 This is the one I was using before the sport belt :) www.levodesigns.com/product/papoose-tweave/
Can you put in a plug to PHLster to get an Enigma for a Staccato C2?? 🤞🏻 great video!
The enigma is not a holster, so if you can find a holster that is compatible with the enigma, then you'd be all set :)
Excellent thanks for the vdeo and time 👍
Great vid! Any issues with sweat and cleaning of the kit and leg leash?
Nope! I do have a short video up about cleaning it though :)
The link doesn’t work.
Thank you!
Is that the leg leash that came with your enigma? Mine looks different
Nope, this is the paracord alternative :) They have a DIY guide on their website in the blog section in the "educational resources" drop down menu.
I completely understand someone wanting to carry whilst running. However, lifting?
Just depends on each persons risk assessment, and probably the kind of lifting they're doing :)
Hey! Do you find the sport belt to be more suffocating or induces more sweat when wearing it normally versus the original enigma?
It's definitely not suffocating haha. I prefer it for everyday wear and exercise over the original nylon belt, but for example, my husband prefers the nylon belt both for exercise and everyday. It's very much a personal preference :)
@@tessahbooth Is the sport belt elastic or is it stiff like the original belt? I'm wondering if an elastic belt would be more comfortable.
@@Blakostructr The sport belt has a slight stretch to it, but not very much. The reason you don't want very much stretch is because it will cause the gun to bounce when walking or running. The sport belt has juuuust enough stretch to allow for more comfort and mobility, but is still sturdy enough to prevent any kind of bounce :)
hello great video ...whats your pr in the 5k,10k,half mary, and marathon....thanks for your reply....
Oh jeez, it's been years since I've tracked that stuff. I use to be an avid runner, now I'm more of an occasional jogger. My faster 5k was 22min though :) I only did one 10k race and one half marathon, and I'm sure those times were exceptionally slow as well haha.
@@tessahbooth those are great times....
You mentioned a DIY elf leash. Where Can I find in instructions for that?
Elf… funny me. I meant to type leg
Here's the resource for that! www.phlsterholsters.com/how-to-make-a-paracord-leg-leash/
@@tessahbooth thanks
Do you have stake in the Phlster/Enigma company at all?
At the time of filming this video, no I did not. I just genuinely found that the Enigma solved problems nothing else I had tried could, as this video demonstrates.
Now I actually work for them as their Director of Customer Development, which is publicly disclosed on my channel and mentioned in the individual videos for which it's relevant.
@@tessahbooth Okay, great! That’s what I figured. Thanks for the quick response.
How do you carry an extra mag with the enigma?
I personally don’t, but I know lots of people who do. You can attach it to the faceplate or to the belt though 😊
What's the longest road trip (driving) you have made with the enigma?
I'd say the longest was about 8 hours. I'll be making the drive from New Mexico to Georgia in December, so I'll be stacking up the driving hours some more then :)
I just couldn't, that strap however adjusted is annoying. I run and work out with strapt tac much better
Isn’t a sport belt like a belly ban and to hot?
I don’t find it hot, but it’a definitely a necessity either 🙂 the enigma comes with a thinner nylon like belt.
How does the leg leash work against your skin under the yoga pants? It doesn't hurt?
Since I switched to a gutted paracord material I haven't felt much with chaffing or anything. Although if that's an issue with longer distances you can just wear short spandex under running shorts/leggings and wear the enigma over the spandex, but under the shorts/leggings.
like wise for men too
Cool.
The sport belt looks alot like the pad that a lot of cops put on their duty belt (molle web gear) nowadays. I would imagine of that design is able to support the 20-30lbs duty belt it will more than suffice for a workout ccw!
can it fit a p365?
There are three different Enigmas, two of them come with just the chassis, and one of them (Enigma Express) comes fully assembled with the holster. PHLster does make a p365 Enigma Express 😊
I run with a light backpack for more comfort
Well, you certainly look fit & trim, so well done there. As for the products, nicely done representing who you are going to be working for and incorporating the knowledge you have with the former holsters and items you’ve used in the past. Excellent video and concise. You found a great niche. Hope your husband is safe on deployment.
More good info - not for me, but content I can pass on to my daughter.
me too brother
Please tell me you leave the hostage target up even when you’re not making videos
Cool. I get buy with a larger clip for most exercises, and I use a G42 as well. I've been thinking about an an old-school LCP2 ($250 on base, tax free) but I've heard bad things about sweat and rust with those super little guys.
hm... gotta be... AZ?
Some of this video was filmed in Oregon, while other parts were filmed in El Paso, TX. Living in Georgia these days though!
@@tessahbooth really? it looks so desert-y
@@thatguy5358 El Paso is prettttty deserty haha
@@tessahbooth and not super far from arizona! aha!
The leg leash clasp on the original SUCKS!!!!! I hope they come up with a new clasp. I don’t even use the leg leash anymore because of the clasp.
They actually are designing a new clip for the leash :) I still use the original clip, and have never had any issues with it. Is there a reason you didn't like it? Just to be clear, PHLster strongly recommends against removing the leg leash. It was purposefully added into the design of the enigma, and its not advised to use the enigma without.
@@tessahbooth
I am a very large guy. And my legs are very large. When I do squats, run, sprints, bend over a certain way the clip pops open.
My wife is a therapist and does taping for a living. We have taped the leash in place... with the flexion of my thigh I pop the clasp. If I leave it loose so it doesnt pop I will have to tape it in place every single day. I am not using sports tape every day in order to leave it loose enough to not pop the clip.
The clip is way to weak. It needs a stronger clip.
@@CannonCountry PHLster has an educational resource for this very issue on their website :) The clip breaking away is a safety feature, although it is possible your was defective. Did you try emailing their customer service?
www.phlsterholsters.com/whats-up-with-the-enigma-leg-leash/
@@tessahbooth
Why would I want the clip to break away from my leg as I squat or run? That defeats the purpose and then becomes a major problem.
I want it to work when I run and squat and do any physical movements.
@@CannonCountry It should not break away when doing those activities. The link I left above would likely be very helpful. Theres a video of someone doing movements that you just described with the leash adjusted properly.
Like I said, it is possible also that your leash could be defective. I would encourage you to contact their customer service after looking at the educational resource above :)
I just carry a mouse gun for certain situations, this is one of them.
I can understand carrying while on a run. Carrying while your weight lifting, exercising, or whatever other activity designed for physical fitness makes absolutely no sense at all. Where, when, and why?
Do you know any plus size woman that review the enigma here on RUclips.
Hi. Thanks for the content.
Before I start, please understand that there is no judgement from my side whatsoever.
I am assuming you live in America somewhere and if I compare your generalized live conditions and quality of life in your country VS my side of the world which is South Africa we are statistically and in real life situations a crime hotspot, something the World doesn't get told or mentioned in the media because of the whole history of the Country and and and. But even with that I and my family don't need or feel the need to own or carry guns, we live a fairly comfortable life eventho our next generation is pretty much going to need to look for greener pastures somewhere else. I'm all for guns and fully understand guns don't kill, people kill people.
So in this long winded comment / question. Why do you feel the need to carry a gun in such a "safe" country? Again this is just a honest question that I don't intend to have any negative meaning in it.
Hey! Thanks for your comment. I actually just addressed this question in todays upload. You can skip to the last time card in this video: ruclips.net/video/AqVt_1aJ6lw/видео.html
It’s not about whether I live in a safe area or not, it’s more about the fact that there are bad actors everywhere, and people are victimized everyday. If, in the off chance I am selected for attack, I want to be as prepared as I can be in order to prevent someone from taking my life from me.
@@tessahbooth thanks for the reply. I just watched your video 5min after I posted. As I mentioned, no judgement at all from my side, just wanted your take on why you carry.
Sad fact is that in my country, if I shoot a criminal that is in my house attacking me or my family I will be in more trouble then the perpetrators. I will be arrested and will need to without a shadow of adoubt state my case that our lives where is really and imminent threat.
@@angelln25 I don't know where you are, or what the laws are in your country, but it is not uncommon for self defenders to be arrested in the US after a self defense encounter and will also have to prove that they had reason to believe that they were in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm.
Is the enigma geared towards women? Or do men use it too? What does your husband use? (Assuming he’s into working out like you are).
Enigma is for men and women. Mine gives me the best concealment of any holster set up. It also will allow me to conceal in a suit.
The enigma is very much a gender neutral carry system. My husband also uses an enigma. He's currently carrying a comped Glock 19, with a Holoson 509t, in a PHLster Pro Series holster mounted to the standard enigma.
Love the product but I refuse to assemble it. The company should do this and for this reason, I will not buy it
An assembled version is available. They can’t have an assembled version for every gun though, so there are open source versions of the enigma available with the option to purchase compatible holsters elsewhere.
Now that's what I call a western girl.
Who lifts weights while carrying a gun? Running I get.
Literally showed 3 minutes of running b-roll and precisely 0 minutes of the actual product being discussed...
I have other videos dedicated to the actual product walk through, and a pretty detailed section of my website describing it further: www.armedandstyled.net/resources/phlster-enigma
For this video I felt it was more useful to focus on showing how it worked in this specific context. As of right now I'm not aware of any other videos that show someone actually running with their Enigma.
@@tessahbooth I hear ya, just odd is all. There was nothing included to actually demonstrate the functionality of the enigma is all I mean. Obv the holster holds things, but could you draw effectively still? Did your garment interfere with master grip? Was the holster itself remaining consistent in placement/position. Etc.
@@minman2546 Yep, totally get how those things are super important! They just weren't the focus of this video :)
Maybe just don’t workout with your gun
Do you watch the news? Do you still feel that way?
Where can I find the Enigma holster? Wish you had a link for that. I didn't find it in your Amazon store
You’ll find it on PHLsters website: www.phlsterholsters.com