Delegate here. My thoughts on each point: 1. Gen 5 timers have a delay to timer resets now. I've not seen a timer reset since updating to them. Although there are still plenty of other malfunctions, its not clear that this would be solved by making a new timer. Manufacturing is hard. 2. Unfortunately, inexperienced judges are often a necessity. We can't plan for how many newcomers will sign up, and if we disallowed newcomers to judge, we would not be able to create reliable groups or schedule because we won't have enough judges. Think how often the organizers or delegayes have had to call for judges at competitions. It's frustrating. Often newcomers are judges because they are enthusiastic about volunteering, and many experienced competitors don't volunteer. 3. A second layer of scramble checkers is something that I am interested in trying. Robots can't handle every type of puzzle yet, so that isn't an option.
Agreed, i think that newcomers and experienced cubers who haven't been a judge yet, should before competition get a small quick guide (specially for those who are a bit sceptic about judging but want to try it anyway). Since newcomers meet up with a delegate before the competition, those who wants to, they could get a quick guide from the delegates. And with scrambling, 2 people scrambling and checking if its correctly scrambled is gonna reduce the output of scrambled cubes significally and can cause a mix-up with the cubes. From my competitions, i would wanna try to have a bigger printed picture from the scramble, so i can better see if its correctly scrambled, alltho, still a chance (but smaller) to get a misscramble.
@@adrian10man23 Competitors ans judges' tutorials exist before (almost) every competition. It's just obvious that an 10 y.o. kid won't be able to catch up with everything during the tutorials, before having a real competition experience. And such young age quite often becomes an average competitors' age. Speedcubing is getting younger and younger, and unless each competition has specially trained non-competing staff (judges, scramblers), problems will still exist.
Couple thoughts: For judges, in my personal experience less experienced people can still judge as long as they’re mature enough. I’ve seen several first time parents be competent judges as long as someone tells them how to do it. It isn’t rocket science after all. Also, there’s just not a lot of people that volunteer for judging especially towards the ends of comps when everyone left except for the finalists. In addition, about misscrambles, having extra people check scrambles isn’t practical. As someone who’s scrambled at comps a fair amount, there’s a ton of cubes that have to be scrambled in a short time in order for the comp to run smoothly. One thing that could be done is specifically check cubes for certain competitors to avoid misscrambles leading to false records. Obviously we want everyone to get the correct scrambles but usually it only matters when someone fast gets a mis. If we had people double check cubes for some of the fastest competitors it could solve a decent amount of potential misscrambles on records.
In my area, for "bad" judges, some comps have made solutions by having a laminated sheet of paper that goes through all judging processes for all events. So far, it sometimes made the judging a little slower, but overall there have been better judges.
I think one way we could fix the judging problem would be to mandate newcomers to come early to the competitions, for a more in-depth judging tutorial. How this could work is the newcomers practice judging non-official solves for more experienced cubers (like delegates). So the more experienced cubers can give them feedback on things that they may be doing wrong.
This is a very well made video, great job! All of these issues are critical to the future of the organization and I think they were presented in a good way :) Regarding the Timers issue: since rolling out Gen 5 timers, we have seen a huge decrease in overall malfunctions, resets, etc. Of course they’re not going to completely disappear, but a drastic reduction has occurred. One thing I always try to make sure of, and I encourage other competitors to do, is have as clean of a timer start/stop as possible. When stopping, I like to stay as far from the center of the timer as possible while maintaining a legal timer stop with my palms to avoid dislodging internal equipment. I entirely agree with you regarding judging, I think the best way to improve the quality of judges is to avoid first timers judging and have as thorough of a tutorial as possible. Groupifier (a software used to make groups for competitions) has a feature that disables newcomers from getting assignments, which is a huge help. We also have an in-depth interactive judging tutorial at competitions to get people involved and help them understand the importance of doing their job correctly. Calling out errors when we see them reinforces this and leads to higher quality judges, in our case :) Misscrambles. This falls entirely on human error, dishonesty, and ignorance. Running and scrambling is considered a vital staff job in my region because of the importance of scramble integrity. Only allowing trusted staff to run and scramble so we trust that the cubes are properly handled has been a major part in reducing the number of scrambling incidents in recent months. Mistakes will happen, that’s guaranteed, so it’s a goal to continually reinforce the importance of integrity and validity when dealing with scrambles. Sorry for the long read but I’m passionate about growing my region and the WCA as a whole. I don’t think there’s 1 foolproof solution to every problem, as most of it stems from human error, but I think there are plenty of measures individual competitors can take to make competitions better for everyone :)
Fully agree with all of this. Especially the part about judges. If we didn’t have new competitors judge then every competition would either be so behind schedule, or would have to be planned with the lack of judges in mind forcing for fewer rounds and fewer events. The purpose of the new competitor tutorial done at every competition is to teach newcomers how to do things properly. So the WCA has already done everything they can in that regard to fix the issue in my opinion.
In theory the judge system works, but the issue is is that the more competitions people go to, the less interested they are in volunteering, if you have ever organized a competition or help organize, you would know that a lot of the time it’s the first timers that make the competition run, so while there is a pretty easy fix to judging problems, the same people that complain about judges don’t really help out with their experience Also the g5 has a cubing mode where you have to hold down the reset button, and it takes a couple seconds after the solve where the buttons don’t do anything, the timers made by cubing companies are just worse, otherwise they would probably be more used
These are all valid problems, but the problem with placing restrictions is that competitions will get behind schedule, and we only have the venue available for so much time.
I really think that this channel is going to blow up. Like I have never seen yt channels grow this fast! I'm so glad I was one of the first that got to watch your videos
well there is gen5 timer that i do not have but i heard that it fixes the accidental reset problem, i think that making a new timer for cubing specifically is going to be literally nearly impossible because well you need to literally make a factory so the timer is mass produced, and that doesn't sound realistic and doable to me
Usually my bad judges are first time competitors so I say just make fewer of them have to do it. I really dont want that 'your inspection time starts now' announcement before they lift the cover 💀
what i was thinking for judges, is that judges under the age of 10 or so, must be watched by a delegate or guardian. not sure if this causes crowds, but i think this is a good idea.
Hey, just wanted to give perspective on each of these problems. They certainly are issues, but unfortunately don't all have clear solutions. Nick Silvestri already said a lot of what I wanted to but I'll try to add :) As for timer malfunctions, logistically making a new one just for and by the WCA is impossible at the moment. Besides the presumably large cost of manufacturing such a product, at least in the US, the patent that Speed Stacks has on these types of timers ties our hands. It's why the Cubicle and Speed Cube Shop don't carry QiYi/Yuxin timers--they've gotten sued in the past for doing so. I think GAN timers utilize an exception in the patent to be able to be sold here, but they're not suitable for competition as far as I know. And the main patent is expired now, or close to expiring, but I don't think that'll stop a company like Speed Stacks. Anyways, delegates have been working incredibly hard trying to limit issues with timers. And Gen 5 timers do tend to be better, yeah. Sometimes we have issues with Gen 5 displays but definitely less so than Gen 4, which is fantastic. As for judges, in many places we do just that-- restrict staff roles to only returning competitors. At all competitions I've organized that's been a priority, and it's actually really easy to do on the backend of competition organization. But you can't make it a universal policy. There was a recent competition in Angola, a country in Africa, where only one person, the delegate, was not a first timer. The competition still ran very well and now they have a trainee delegate in Angola, which is awesome. For misscrambles, there is a lot that is being done re: experimentation. However, I think if you initially had two scramblers, and now you want to also have scramble checkers, just converting one of the scramblers to checking scrambles is really going to slow things down, so we would probably need to add one or two scramble checkers, which is almost certainly doable at most competitions. Either way, thank you for making this video! These problems need to be talked about so that more cubers are more aware and there is pressure to make progress within the WCA.
2 things 1: im guilty of talking while judging (but this was because a friend was sitting across from me im not doing that again) 2: for a squan round it was a young girl who wrote down the time as a 24 instead of 29, thankfully my rank wouldn't have been different but still still agree with everything i see so far
I think the only good solution to the judging issue is proper tutorials. Here in Germany competitions can have up to something like 40% newcomers, wich means them judging is absolutely vital for the competition. and since they usually compete in less events they have a lot of time to judge. I dont want to imagine how much worse comps would be if they werent allowed to judge idk how other countries handle this, but at most comps here there is a lengthy tutorial for newcomers. and most of the first timers are pretty good judges in my experience. cant rember the last time a judge made some major mistakes.
sometimes it is hard to define how "experienced" a cuber is in competition. person A may have only gone to 5 compeititions but in all those competitions he competed in 10 Ao5 based events and 3 Mo3 or Bo3 events. he completed all of his solves in all those 13 events which means 59 solves per comp resulting in total of 295 official attempts. person B on the other hand may have gone to 10 competitions but B only competed in 2 events, one is Ao5 and one is Mo3. he completed Ao5 and Mo3 in both events which means 8 solves per comp resulting in total of 80 official attempts. which is more experienced in your opinion? A or B? and this only counts the factor of how many official attempts they have made. on some competitions, some competitors are "kinda lazy" and "dodging" when being asked to judge. some have logical reasoning like "practicing for next round" but some just dont want to. can we say competitors like this are experienced in terms of judging? because believe it or not there are people who are the exact opposite. they only compete in one event and stay all dat at the venue to judge every possible moment. wouldnt the later is the more "experienced" in judging? it will be fun to add "judging" stats to competitors so we know how often they judge and can be used as a more reliable metric to decide if this person is good enough or not to be a judge. but adding that will add more time in practice and competition organizing. so seriously i think we really havent found the middle ground solution for this
Another problem that Tymon said is only have an ao5 since in the finals we decide the winner by the best ao5, but as he mentioned ao5 are somewhat luck based so a solution could be have 2 - 3 ao5s and getting the best one. Another option could be have an ao12 or even ao25 and etc.
Recently I taught my brother how to solve a cube and he is 7 and he did not get chosen to judge any solves so maybe they added an age limit in Australia idk tho
Personally I believe that 'bad judges' aren't a real problem; the problem is greatly overstated imo, at least where i live judges are almost always perfect, even young ones,,, and secondly you can always get an extra if a judge fucks up
1:45 This happened to me once at home. I was just doing a 3x3 session when I stopped the timer a little too hard (I think) so it turned off while showing 8:88.888. It wouldn’t turn on for the next 2 or so minutes, so I started freaking out a bit. For some reason, when it did turn on, it was on 4-pad mode with 0.000 on the timer, and then it turned off again! Eventually it went back to normal and I could use it like normal. However it was still on 4-pad mode so I had to turn it back to 2-pad afterwards
had a judge today at ucsd who didn't write very well (he looked like he was about five) and he took like 2 minutes to write down my time. time was a 9.216 and he wrote 9.2. i had to make him write the 1 and he took like 30 seconds lol
With judges, I think you have to accept lots of young and experienced people helping out. Some inexperienced judges are quite good straight away. I wouldn't bother trying to regulate it. What's more important is to make sure that the scramblers and judges for finals and top-level events have more experience. If it's your first event, you shouldn't be judging Max Park - the stakes are too high. Also, give competitors the right to complain about a judge. Hopefully this will be rare, but can be used when necessary. You can also just give direct feedback to a judge, like asking them to be quiet, or to not do a countdown, etc. For scrambling, I definitely think some form of automation would make a lot of sense, for efficiency, accuracy, etc. Also, if people are signing things, there should be accountability. If you keep doing misscrambles, it should be possible to trace if back to you and blame you in some way.
Don't sell yourself short Tsukasa Sano, these are great suggestions to incredible tragedies happening in the sport of cubing. I think it is adorable when organizers allow children to be judges "i.e., under the age of 18", and also incredibly irresponsible and reckless. I understand that it may be difficult to find help, especially help that isn't being paid, but not impossible. Ide rather have a responsible adult that has gone through a certification process, then a star struck child that doesn't appreciate or can cope/comprehend the gravity of the situation, it's unfair to the competitors to say the least. To solve this, there should be a minimum age requirement "i.e., 16 y/o minimum" to be a judge along with a certification process that has a detailed history of experience, which can be developed through training during community practice sessions. It would be inappropriate to allow a child to coach and or officiate any other organized event unless proper experience and or certification has been met, by a group of peers. So why is it acceptable to do this with cubing competitions? To put it bluntly, very few people/organizers take the sport seriously, and until organizers start to take these competitions more serious and start investing more financially, then this will never change.
I can't tell if this is a compliment or a criticism but just in case I'll just say: organizers planning competitions are doing it seriously in my opinion, it would be bold to assume that organizers don't try and make the competition a good experience for the competitors. This is all confusing stuff, and even I don't know if any of what I said would work in real competitions, or at least anytime soon. lets not forget that.
Also in my opinion judges should be required to be at least B- in their handwriting grades. At my last comp on my last one handed solve I got a 19.2 but the judge had such bad handwriting that the delegate understood it as 24.2. Which caused a mess as I had to go to the delegate to try to convince him it was 19.2 and thankfully I filmed all my solves so I had proof but what If I was not filming my solves?
I think it would be unrealistic if it wasn't purposely made easy. instead of having some moves wrong in the scramble, 3 moves were added at the end of scrambling. it would be unrealistic that 3 moves would be made on accident. those 3 moves also happen to solve an edge for an x-cross which makes this misscramble almost certain to be a misscramble caused by making it easy on purpose.
Not letting newcomers judge is kind of nonsense, considering that in my experience the "veterans" do not even judge at all as they simply do not want to. Having a few newcomers who enjoy judging basically the wohle day is what keeps the competitions running. The solution is to simple do a judging tutorial in the beginning, and if someone makes a mistake once, just tell them and help them learning.
I see a lot of criticisms in the comments that are similar talking about how g5 timers exist and restricting people from staffing isn't a good idea, I just want to say that all of these systems I've mentioned in this video isn't perfect and there is still a long way to go. Maybe we *shouldn't* change anything to avoid complications... I hope you understand!
Maybe at one point in time rubik's will allow the wca to use it especially since now we are seeing more redbull and rubik's colabs so its only a matter of time
Delegate here. My thoughts on each point:
1. Gen 5 timers have a delay to timer resets now. I've not seen a timer reset since updating to them. Although there are still plenty of other malfunctions, its not clear that this would be solved by making a new timer. Manufacturing is hard.
2. Unfortunately, inexperienced judges are often a necessity. We can't plan for how many newcomers will sign up, and if we disallowed newcomers to judge, we would not be able to create reliable groups or schedule because we won't have enough judges. Think how often the organizers or delegayes have had to call for judges at competitions. It's frustrating. Often newcomers are judges because they are enthusiastic about volunteering, and many experienced competitors don't volunteer.
3. A second layer of scramble checkers is something that I am interested in trying. Robots can't handle every type of puzzle yet, so that isn't an option.
i dont know how competitor tutorials work, but maybe you could include how to judge properly
Agreed, i think that newcomers and experienced cubers who haven't been a judge yet, should before competition get a small quick guide (specially for those who are a bit sceptic about judging but want to try it anyway). Since newcomers meet up with a delegate before the competition, those who wants to, they could get a quick guide from the delegates. And with scrambling, 2 people scrambling and checking if its correctly scrambled is gonna reduce the output of scrambled cubes significally and can cause a mix-up with the cubes. From my competitions, i would wanna try to have a bigger printed picture from the scramble, so i can better see if its correctly scrambled, alltho, still a chance (but smaller) to get a misscramble.
@@adrian10man23 Competitors ans judges' tutorials exist before (almost) every competition. It's just obvious that an 10 y.o. kid won't be able to catch up with everything during the tutorials, before having a real competition experience. And such young age quite often becomes an average competitors' age. Speedcubing is getting younger and younger, and unless each competition has specially trained non-competing staff (judges, scramblers), problems will still exist.
Hi, what delegate are you?
@@simonpraschl5339 it's already in the tutorial but remember they are likely kids under 10 so of course it's not that easy for they to understand
Couple thoughts:
For judges, in my personal experience less experienced people can still judge as long as they’re mature enough. I’ve seen several first time parents be competent judges as long as someone tells them how to do it. It isn’t rocket science after all. Also, there’s just not a lot of people that volunteer for judging especially towards the ends of comps when everyone left except for the finalists. In addition, about misscrambles, having extra people check scrambles isn’t practical. As someone who’s scrambled at comps a fair amount, there’s a ton of cubes that have to be scrambled in a short time in order for the comp to run smoothly. One thing that could be done is specifically check cubes for certain competitors to avoid misscrambles leading to false records. Obviously we want everyone to get the correct scrambles but usually it only matters when someone fast gets a mis. If we had people double check cubes for some of the fastest competitors it could solve a decent amount of potential misscrambles on records.
In my area, for "bad" judges, some comps have made solutions by having a laminated sheet of paper that goes through all judging processes for all events. So far, it sometimes made the judging a little slower, but overall there have been better judges.
I think one way we could fix the judging problem would be to mandate newcomers to come early to the competitions, for a more in-depth judging tutorial. How this could work is the newcomers practice judging non-official solves for more experienced cubers (like delegates). So the more experienced cubers can give them feedback on things that they may be doing wrong.
This video was great! It brought attention to probably the 3 biggest issues that the WCA has, and was really interesting.
This is a very well made video, great job! All of these issues are critical to the future of the organization and I think they were presented in a good way :)
Regarding the Timers issue: since rolling out Gen 5 timers, we have seen a huge decrease in overall malfunctions, resets, etc. Of course they’re not going to completely disappear, but a drastic reduction has occurred. One thing I always try to make sure of, and I encourage other competitors to do, is have as clean of a timer start/stop as possible. When stopping, I like to stay as far from the center of the timer as possible while maintaining a legal timer stop with my palms to avoid dislodging internal equipment.
I entirely agree with you regarding judging, I think the best way to improve the quality of judges is to avoid first timers judging and have as thorough of a tutorial as possible. Groupifier (a software used to make groups for competitions) has a feature that disables newcomers from getting assignments, which is a huge help. We also have an in-depth interactive judging tutorial at competitions to get people involved and help them understand the importance of doing their job correctly. Calling out errors when we see them reinforces this and leads to higher quality judges, in our case :)
Misscrambles. This falls entirely on human error, dishonesty, and ignorance. Running and scrambling is considered a vital staff job in my region because of the importance of scramble integrity. Only allowing trusted staff to run and scramble so we trust that the cubes are properly handled has been a major part in reducing the number of scrambling incidents in recent months. Mistakes will happen, that’s guaranteed, so it’s a goal to continually reinforce the importance of integrity and validity when dealing with scrambles.
Sorry for the long read but I’m passionate about growing my region and the WCA as a whole. I don’t think there’s 1 foolproof solution to every problem, as most of it stems from human error, but I think there are plenty of measures individual competitors can take to make competitions better for everyone :)
Fully agree with all of this. Especially the part about judges. If we didn’t have new competitors judge then every competition would either be so behind schedule, or would have to be planned with the lack of judges in mind forcing for fewer rounds and fewer events.
The purpose of the new competitor tutorial done at every competition is to teach newcomers how to do things properly. So the WCA has already done everything they can in that regard to fix the issue in my opinion.
In theory the judge system works, but the issue is is that the more competitions people go to, the less interested they are in volunteering, if you have ever organized a competition or help organize, you would know that a lot of the time it’s the first timers that make the competition run, so while there is a pretty easy fix to judging problems, the same people that complain about judges don’t really help out with their experience
Also the g5 has a cubing mode where you have to hold down the reset button, and it takes a couple seconds after the solve where the buttons don’t do anything, the timers made by cubing companies are just worse, otherwise they would probably be more used
These are all valid problems, but the problem with placing restrictions is that competitions will get behind schedule, and we only have the venue available for so much time.
3:26
Ouch, I accidentally did that last weekend... Thought I heard a 'yes' but apparently not
To reduce the likelihood of this problem, I ask the competitor to say "ready" when he wants me to remove the cover.
4:55 Groupifier actually has a feature so that first-timers aren’t assigned to do any staff work.
Damn, good vid 👍
Very great video, continue like this!
*Funny you'd mention these, as an owner of an invention company, we are already working on a solution for some of these issues.*
I really think that this channel is going to blow up. Like I have never seen yt channels grow this fast! I'm so glad I was one of the first that got to watch your videos
Thank you so much!
this is an amazingly well put together video. earned a sub from me! keep it up!
Thank you!
well there is gen5 timer that i do not have but i heard that it fixes the accidental reset problem, i think that making a new timer for cubing specifically is going to be literally nearly impossible because well you need to literally make a factory so the timer is mass produced, and that doesn't sound realistic and doable to me
in the uk, judges are chosen randomly from non first time competitors, but thats only for first rounds and volunteers are used for other rounds
This is a very good video with some very good ideas!
Usually my bad judges are first time competitors so I say just make fewer of them have to do it. I really dont want that 'your inspection time starts now' announcement before they lift the cover 💀
what i was thinking for judges, is that judges under the age of 10 or so, must be watched by a delegate or guardian. not sure if this causes crowds, but i think this is a good idea.
Nice video
Hey, just wanted to give perspective on each of these problems. They certainly are issues, but unfortunately don't all have clear solutions. Nick Silvestri already said a lot of what I wanted to but I'll try to add :)
As for timer malfunctions, logistically making a new one just for and by the WCA is impossible at the moment. Besides the presumably large cost of manufacturing such a product, at least in the US, the patent that Speed Stacks has on these types of timers ties our hands. It's why the Cubicle and Speed Cube Shop don't carry QiYi/Yuxin timers--they've gotten sued in the past for doing so. I think GAN timers utilize an exception in the patent to be able to be sold here, but they're not suitable for competition as far as I know. And the main patent is expired now, or close to expiring, but I don't think that'll stop a company like Speed Stacks. Anyways, delegates have been working incredibly hard trying to limit issues with timers. And Gen 5 timers do tend to be better, yeah. Sometimes we have issues with Gen 5 displays but definitely less so than Gen 4, which is fantastic.
As for judges, in many places we do just that-- restrict staff roles to only returning competitors. At all competitions I've organized that's been a priority, and it's actually really easy to do on the backend of competition organization. But you can't make it a universal policy. There was a recent competition in Angola, a country in Africa, where only one person, the delegate, was not a first timer. The competition still ran very well and now they have a trainee delegate in Angola, which is awesome.
For misscrambles, there is a lot that is being done re: experimentation. However, I think if you initially had two scramblers, and now you want to also have scramble checkers, just converting one of the scramblers to checking scrambles is really going to slow things down, so we would probably need to add one or two scramble checkers, which is almost certainly doable at most competitions.
Either way, thank you for making this video! These problems need to be talked about so that more cubers are more aware and there is pressure to make progress within the WCA.
oh I never knew that you could get sued for making a new timer, the more I know I guess!
2 things
1: im guilty of talking while judging (but this was because a friend was sitting across from me im not doing that again)
2: for a squan round it was a young girl who wrote down the time as a 24 instead of 29, thankfully my rank wouldn't have been different but still
still agree with everything i see so far
I think the only good solution to the judging issue is proper tutorials. Here in Germany competitions can have up to something like 40% newcomers, wich means them judging is absolutely vital for the competition. and since they usually compete in less events they have a lot of time to judge. I dont want to imagine how much worse comps would be if they werent allowed to judge
idk how other countries handle this, but at most comps here there is a lengthy tutorial for newcomers. and most of the first timers are pretty good judges in my experience. cant rember the last time a judge made some major mistakes.
sometimes it is hard to define how "experienced" a cuber is in competition.
person A may have only gone to 5 compeititions but in all those competitions he competed in 10 Ao5 based events and 3 Mo3 or Bo3 events. he completed all of his solves in all those 13 events which means 59 solves per comp resulting in total of 295 official attempts.
person B on the other hand may have gone to 10 competitions but B only competed in 2 events, one is Ao5 and one is Mo3. he completed Ao5 and Mo3 in both events which means 8 solves per comp resulting in total of 80 official attempts.
which is more experienced in your opinion? A or B?
and this only counts the factor of how many official attempts they have made. on some competitions, some competitors are "kinda lazy" and "dodging" when being asked to judge. some have logical reasoning like "practicing for next round" but some just dont want to. can we say competitors like this are experienced in terms of judging? because believe it or not there are people who are the exact opposite. they only compete in one event and stay all dat at the venue to judge every possible moment. wouldnt the later is the more "experienced" in judging?
it will be fun to add "judging" stats to competitors so we know how often they judge and can be used as a more reliable metric to decide if this person is good enough or not to be a judge. but adding that will add more time in practice and competition organizing.
so seriously i think we really havent found the middle ground solution for this
I totally agree with you. it really puts perspective on how new the WCA actually is!
For timer malfunctions and resets, they should allow to use other timer that is harder to reset, a better design and long last batteries
no,no,no.. the problem with the WCA is that cube in their logo 😡
I heard it's to avoid copyright infringement by Rubik's
Another problem that Tymon said is only have an ao5 since in the finals we decide the winner by the best ao5, but as he mentioned ao5 are somewhat luck based so a solution could be have 2 - 3 ao5s and getting the best one. Another option could be have an ao12 or even ao25 and etc.
Great vid .. great channel
Thank you!
Recently I taught my brother how to solve a cube and he is 7 and he did not get chosen to judge any solves so maybe they added an age limit in Australia idk tho
usually they don’t assign staffing to first time competitors
it was the same for me as well
Personally I believe that 'bad judges' aren't a real problem; the problem is greatly overstated imo, at least where i live judges are almost always perfect, even young ones,,, and secondly you can always get an extra if a judge fucks up
Nice video and very good edited!
Thank you so much!
There is also the 4th unspoken problem.
The color schemeing of the cube on the logo is wrong.
apparently it's to avoid copyright infringement by Rubik's!
1:45 This happened to me once at home.
I was just doing a 3x3 session when I stopped the timer a little too hard (I think) so it turned off while showing 8:88.888. It wouldn’t turn on for the next 2 or so minutes, so I started freaking out a bit. For some reason, when it did turn on, it was on 4-pad mode with 0.000 on the timer, and then it turned off again!
Eventually it went back to normal and I could use it like normal. However it was still on 4-pad mode so I had to turn it back to 2-pad afterwards
had a judge today at ucsd who didn't write very well (he looked like he was about five) and he took like 2 minutes to write down my time. time was a 9.216 and he wrote 9.2. i had to make him write the 1 and he took like 30 seconds lol
YiHeng Wang judges as well
With judges, I think you have to accept lots of young and experienced people helping out. Some inexperienced judges are quite good straight away. I wouldn't bother trying to regulate it. What's more important is to make sure that the scramblers and judges for finals and top-level events have more experience. If it's your first event, you shouldn't be judging Max Park - the stakes are too high.
Also, give competitors the right to complain about a judge. Hopefully this will be rare, but can be used when necessary. You can also just give direct feedback to a judge, like asking them to be quiet, or to not do a countdown, etc.
For scrambling, I definitely think some form of automation would make a lot of sense, for efficiency, accuracy, etc. Also, if people are signing things, there should be accountability. If you keep doing misscrambles, it should be possible to trace if back to you and blame you in some way.
How do you add clips from other video I'm a brand new channel and am still trying to figure this stuff out.
Don't sell yourself short Tsukasa Sano, these are great suggestions to incredible tragedies happening in the sport of cubing. I think it is adorable when organizers allow children to be judges "i.e., under the age of 18", and also incredibly irresponsible and reckless. I understand that it may be difficult to find help, especially help that isn't being paid, but not impossible. Ide rather have a responsible adult that has gone through a certification process, then a star struck child that doesn't appreciate or can cope/comprehend the gravity of the situation, it's unfair to the competitors to say the least. To solve this, there should be a minimum age requirement "i.e., 16 y/o minimum" to be a judge along with a certification process that has a detailed history of experience, which can be developed through training during community practice sessions. It would be inappropriate to allow a child to coach and or officiate any other organized event unless proper experience and or certification has been met, by a group of peers. So why is it acceptable to do this with cubing competitions? To put it bluntly, very few people/organizers take the sport seriously, and until organizers start to take these competitions more serious and start investing more financially, then this will never change.
I can't tell if this is a compliment or a criticism but just in case I'll just say:
organizers planning competitions are doing it seriously in my opinion, it would be bold to assume that organizers don't try and make the competition a good experience for the competitors. This is all confusing stuff, and even I don't know if any of what I said would work in real competitions, or at least anytime soon. lets not forget that.
Also in my opinion judges should be required to be at least B- in their handwriting grades. At my last comp on my last one handed solve I got a 19.2 but the judge had such bad handwriting that the delegate understood it as 24.2. Which caused a mess as I had to go to the delegate to try to convince him it was 19.2 and thankfully I filmed all my solves so I had proof but what If I was not filming my solves?
Love the Matthew Mayermik like video! Honestly it’s really interesting and entertaining so keep doing these videos
Just gotta add some music
better than matthew's ngl. matthew' s choice of bg music sometime overpower his own voice
@@nikitakusuma8440 mhm this feels more subtle, calm and relaxing
1. timers: they already need to leave stackmat timers, it's 2023...
2. judges: hire normal people
3. misscrambles: hire normal people
not hard
yes normal people
norcal cuber making good videos yayayay
thanks :)
Ruihang's scramble was not purposely easy, it was just wrong.
(also it was fullstep so)
I think it would be unrealistic if it wasn't purposely made easy. instead of having some moves wrong in the scramble, 3 moves were added at the end of scrambling. it would be unrealistic that 3 moves would be made on accident. those 3 moves also happen to solve an edge for an x-cross which makes this misscramble almost certain to be a misscramble caused by making it easy on purpose.
@@TriCubing The more i know!
1. Newest version of stackmat timer requires you to hold down the reset button for longer, so the resetting issue shouldn't be a problem.
it still happens though, it happened to me once (1:43) the system isn't perfect yet and I completely understand that maybe it cannot be perfect
Not letting newcomers judge is kind of nonsense, considering that in my experience the "veterans" do not even judge at all as they simply do not want to. Having a few newcomers who enjoy judging basically the wohle day is what keeps the competitions running.
The solution is to simple do a judging tutorial in the beginning, and if someone makes a mistake once, just tell them and help them learning.
O rings
I see a lot of criticisms in the comments that are similar talking about how g5 timers exist and restricting people from staffing isn't a good idea, I just want to say that all of these systems I've mentioned in this video isn't perfect and there is still a long way to go. Maybe we *shouldn't* change anything to avoid complications... I hope you understand!
The biggest problem with the WCA is that their logo has a wrong color scheme.
apparently that is intentional to avoid copyright infringement by Rubik's!
@@TriCubing oh I didn’t know that
they should fix the color scheme for the logo
that minor difference is actually to avoid copyright infringement by Rubik’s!
Maybe at one point in time rubik's will allow the wca to use it especially since now we are seeing more redbull and rubik's colabs so its only a matter of time
G5 doesn't has that problem