Here's Why I've Fallen In Love With The New Porsche 718 Boxster!
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- Опубликовано: 15 дек 2024
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#Porsche #718 #Boxster
It bugs some of the traditional Porsche owners to hear it, but the mid engine cars are more fun to drive. It’s just physics…
Tell me about it. Even with Porsche’s eng, you’ll feel the difference in how the two take a curve. Boxster just hugs the road.
If I work a little harder my employer might be able to afford these cars
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Thank you Brian....nose back to the grindstone dear boy.....🤥
Then try starting a company yourself :) tell me how risk free and easy that is
@@yooseemotoringchannel3357 Absolutely.......
Workers of the world unite!
I wasn't a big fan of the boxster, and later the cayman... but they grew on me to the point I think I like them more then the 911. If I were in the market for a roadster the 718 would be the one I would get.
T stands for Touring, not Turbo. The 718 and 718S are also turbos. The 718T is a Touring version of the the base 718 (same 2.0 liter turbo engine) that includes performance options and 20” wheels as a standard package.
718T - the T stands for Touring, not Turbo. It’s sort of the purist model of the range, just like the 991.2T was in the 911 range.
@5.55 you nearly lost it Roman 😂
Cool seeing you driving PCH. I had a neighbor that had 40 vehicles in his collection and, The Boxster was his daily driver. Your video shows why!
I too have 40 cars. Mine are powered by batteries and are controlled by radios. 😀
No front or rear locking differential, no low range transfer case, not even a decent set of All Terrain tires. How does Porsche even expect this to make it up Hell's Revenge?
LMAO
Forget that, how much can it tow?
@@rzu7120 Good question since a hitch may now work since the center exhaust is gone. 😁😁
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GTS 4.0 has a limited slip diff and torque vectoring
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Are the people bemoaning the changes in powertrains of Porsche's actually customers?
People get so upset that every Journalist loves Porsche so much and how its boring to like Porsche but damn, after owning one I find it hard to live without one again.
I totally agree with you. My wife and I ordered a 981 GT4 and it now has 32k miles on it. My wife gets jealous because any time I get within 4 feet of the car, I get goosebumps
Purchased a 718 a few months ago. Wanted to save a bit longer for the GTS but my daily driver started giving out and I didn't want to put 5k more into it. It might not be the top end but its the car I wanted since I was 10 years old. I took my gf down highway one for her birthday and worked down from santa cruz to santa barbara. MAN WAS IT A BLAST TAKING THOSE CURVES! Perfect weather despite being january. Had the top off with Fleetwood Mac blaring out the cabin.
I have nothing to gain from hating a Porsche, and EVERYTHING to gain from loving a Porsche.
Absolutely true!
I get the reason for the manual, it's a small roadster and having a manual really fits this car and what it's aiming to do. However, I'd have to say that I'm getting really used to good automatics, and of course the PDK is the best you can get. The snappiness of going through the gears with the PDK feels really good for me. I've had several sticks before but a good DCT also feels quite involved as well. When your focus shifts away from having to clutch and shift, you start to focus on other things as well, so I don't really feel LESS driver involvement. Again, I just really like the snappiness of the shifts; it's something a manual just can't give you. Also the sound of downshifting rapidly is fun as well.
Nice review. I bought a 1st gen 1999 986 Arctic Silver/Boxster Red Leather Boxster, 5 speed in November of 1998. Still have it with 102,000 miles and counting. It was and is a blast to drive. Only 200 hp but you can stretch out a bit on the streets and fully enjoy all its attributes. I have since added a 2017 718 Cayman S PDK. It certainly is on a different performance level and fun to drive but a bit more of a challenge to use it all on the streets. Well, you can't actually. But someday, if I can bring myself to part with that 986, the new Boxsters are fine with me. Best looking convertible out there IMHO.
Mind that ICS bearing.
@@buzzpedrotti5401 No doubt the IMS issue was real and serious. But that became a real issue for the 2000 model year and beyond when they changed from the original to a less robust design. At 98,000 miles, when I finally had to have my original clutch replaced, I did an IMS upgrade because all it cost was the additional part, no additional labor since everything was apart.
@@willb3018 Sounds like a plan.
@@willb3018 we must be in a parallel universe. I bought a new 98 Camaro SS ran it to 120,000 miles. Then moved into a 17 C7 GS. Still have my SS.
@@williamconrad1087 Interesting. FYI, I have 2 Vettes also. A 60 and a 67....but not since new.😂😂
Roman, the 986 Boxster was launched in 1996, 1 year BEFORE the 996 911. Porsche built the Boxster to plug the gap left by the 968/944. It was designed from the outset to share as many parts as possible with the 993 replacement, the 996, thus cutting production costs.
The 718 is not the least expensive - that would be the base. Also "T" stands for TOURING and not turbo....
Hoping that I get my GTS 4.0 soon…Number 2 on the list. Nice review.
This is a perfect car for an experienced car enthusiast like Roman.
Roman, I'm with you in this one, at least in bemoaning the potential loss of the two-seater, convertible goes. (Yes, I think Porsche in absolutely on the right tract here with these models.)
I do hope these cars with this style, will be around for years to come.
I tried a Cayman and a Boxster. However, I'm 6'3 220 lbs and I couldn't get comfortable in either one. SO, I bought another 911 Carrera.. Very comfortable now and loving my newer 911..
I am 6’2” 236 lbs happy owner of 981 Boxster S 😅
I have a GTS 4.0l (Manual) here in Australia. It's epic. It's Heaven on a stick - From small things big things one day come!
The Boxster came out before the 996. The 996 was criticized because it shared the front end of the boxster. You are correct though that porsche was in trouble and both cars saved Porsche.
I am on a waiting list for a Boxster GTS 4.0. Most likely will take a year before my allocation comes up, then 60-90 days for its production. In the mean time, I’m watching videos about the car.
How you liking the GTS?
T actually stood for Touring. It's the base engine config of the 2.0L turbo, but with all the suspension upgrades from the higher end car.
Good luck getting the Boxster 25 for list price.
Not only does the T not stand for turbo as many have pointed out, the T is not the least expensive model. That would be the base model either Boxster or Cayman, the base Cayman being the least expensive 718.
Miata IS the answer for roadster buyers if money is an issue. If money is not a problem than these versions are fine.
That's such an awesome car. The price of these are crazy now. And I want one.
Porsche needs to redo the 356 for under 50k
Even though $22k less I think there would be a much greater gap in the cost of those same cars 5 yes down the road as the anniversary editions tend to hold or gain value
Base boxster is fast, especially with pdk
Getting the GTS 4.0 next year.
Looking forward to the greatness!
Good for you! Congrats!
Any luck in America for the ldv t60 or gwm cannon.
Only 1% of cars sold today are convertible. I prefer the 2016 Boxster S with the 6 cylinder with low mileage. I love this car; my friend Paul Deutschman of Deutschman Design designed the original Boxster and it was called the Spexter and he's been recently commissioned by Porsche to update the original Spexter for it's anniversary. Many people believe the Boxster and Cayman are the best handling of the Porsche. The T actually doesn't stand for Turbo, but for Touring edition. They are beautiful cars and you can find many used ones in great condition and low mileage in Florida. For a new one, you'd have a hard time choosing vs a Corvette Stingray or the new Z06 with the new V8!
What brand are your sunglasses. Thx
Some serious butt hurt and desperate confirmation bias going on in these comments. I have been doing track driving and autocross for years. Sorry, but your Miata/Mini/Civic doesn't hold a candle to a Cayman or a Boxter.
I have a 718 Boxster and when you tell people you have a Boxster they're unimpressed, but when they see it they think it's an exotic car. It turns heads like crazy everywhere I go in it...there is no better 2 seat roadster.
littrally i found my dream car and with this buitiful red interior and i am having tears of joy 1 day i will buy it
The Spyder is selling used for $20-40K more than the MSRP. Kick my ass back in 2020 when I was offered a allocation for one at MSRP
Got myself a 981 Boxster S this year, it’s the last sports car I’ll ever own. It’s got enough power to be quite entertaining and actually more than you can safely use on the road most of the time. It’s a fantastic car! They won’t be getting rid of gasoline for quite some time and I’m going to enjoy every day of it!
I have the same car, bought it new in 2013 and cannot park with it. Best car I've ever had
This T version is NOT the cheapest version. The lowest price is the base car at $62,000 before any options added. Of course a Miata is about half that price.
Roman: the American Jeremy Clarkson
They don't have anything that compares to our Tommy, Nathan, and Andre however.
Roman, when you have a mop top like yours, you definitely want the Boxster 😃 Also, if you have $80k to spend on a car, $100k isn't that much of a stretch, "aspirational" notwithstanding. Still, you should probably get one because, yeah, this is it. I bought a Mustang GT with a manual last year for the same reason.
I got a 981 Spyder a year ago and it’s appreciated to original sticker list price, imho.
Not really, sometimes $80K is a big stretch, and 100K is out of the question. I don't think someone in that situation is going to be disappointed with the T.
Another point of view: Boxster 25 years is half the price of the cheapest, similarly equipped, naturally aspirated 911
My best friend and i each have 2013 Boxsters. His is the base, mine is an S. I can leave him on the straights but we’re glued to each other in the corners. Both cars are a blast to drive. Just think of what you want to do and you’re doing it. Manual is the only way to go. We are two golfers over six feet tall. We take one, sometimes both cars on long golf road trips in the NW. Just one can take our luggage and golf clubs easily. What other two seater can do that, especially in so much comfort?
Paid $58k (the MSRP) in 1987 for my factory ordered Grand Prix white 930. Picked it up from Traynor Porsche in Connecticut. Limited Slip, Sunroof, Sport Seats, all burgundy red leather. 4 speed. Not gonna lie, was bit sketchy with the super light front end and a huge whale tail that would like to pass you while in a corner ;-)
It'd be great if you could actually buy one. I've had a deposit down on a GTS for three months and one of the largest dealers in the country is saying they don't have an allocation until at least January. Not that _I_ don't have an allocation, it is that _THEY_ don't have an allocation.
I too would go with the 300hp 718 with manual, pure sports car
your wrong Roman a lot of us would love to have one of those but the cost is ridiculous - 104k Boxster
The base model is ok too, this is probably the most expensive version.
My boss bought an early model with 50k km, for $22k Canadian, it’s manual, and he loves it. peppy as heck and sounds great with the upgraded S sport exhaust.
@@sergiosutti4675 … IMO used is the best way to buy…but only after the current supply chain problems. So you can get a car from CarMax or other vendor with the a comprehensive warranty …for a “fair” price! Or … just buy a Miata ND new starting at less than $30k for as much fun and better reliability.
@@rembo183Porsche is second in reliability to Lexus. Mazda is further down the list.
The sedan is dying? Shoot, I didn’t know.
The T is not for turbo its the lightweight model. Less carpets glass and that sort of stuff.
Boxter 25 or GTS or GTS 4.0… why? Appreciate it.
i recently bought a 06 987 and have fallen in love with it, I am trying to get a 981 now
This car is not attainable as most dealers don’t have allocations for the GTS , Spyder, or even the GTS. In addition, they are all well over $100k. The fun factor of a roadster is clear but it is not found only in a Porsche Boxster! As a previous Boxster owner I can testify that a Miata is more fun and less stress. Less stress because it’s so damn affordable to live with. More fun due to its much lighter and more nimble feel. Power lacking? Not really unless you want tomboy speeding tickets. The lightness and feel of the Miata is all you need. Porsche Boxster are truly great but they cost too much money for 99% of the drivers out there.
I am getting a 2022 GTS 4.0 Boxster. What Roman didn't say this is hands down the best manual transmission on this side of a GT3 touring. The "regular" 911 manual 7-speed is not as engaging.
Interesting perspective about going with the auto, Carroll Shelby agreed with you, his Cobra was an auto for the same reason you gave.
Porsche need to do something about that hideous headlights! I prefer Miata or Mini EV over Boxster when it comes to fun factor
Some 50% of Americans can’t come up with $400 in an emergency BUT damn they have opinions about a +$100,000 car!
Think about that in every RUclips comment section.
Can't wait till we get the GT4RS
Why not? It's really a fun open-top sports car
If money is no object, sure, get the flat six. If it is as between the turbo flat 4 and no Boxster, or, some other sports car, I'd rather have the flat 4.
The new boxters are kick ass cars. The Boxter Spyder is amazing. I love my 2009 987.2 Cayman but damn that 4.0 sounds good l
The T stands for Touring. It has more goodies than the base model.
Love the 25, but agree with your choice m thanks for sharing
Wait, so you aren't changing the name of this channel to "The fast Lane luxury Golfcart" after all? I'm kidding, the EV era is being forced upon us wether we like it or not. I just hope enough of these 718's (in Cayman form) are sold in the next couple years (before all of VAG goes electric..including Porsche and Lambo) I will have some good used options at decent prices in 5-6 years. The miata is fantastic, but at 6'2" I simply dont fit, the new GR Toyota 86 and BRZ are great...but the Cayman is the perfect sports car imo. Smooth flat 6 growling from where the backseat normally is, perfect shifter clutch, precise steering, excellent ergonomics (for a small sports car, cupholders are chintzy though) and reliability. It doesnt get any better than this. Even though these things quickly approach base 911 money with a few options added, the 911 is going to be crazy expensive equally equipped...and I'm not sure the driving enjoyment between the two would be worth the extra cost. Cayman GTS for me all day every day..
Does anyone know what sunglasses those are? LOL
When the spec of the boxster gets up at 911 prices choose the base 911!
I'm glad that PCA found you a copy with a slushbox!
Slushbox is a reference to an automatic transmission. This has the manual and I wouldn’t consider a PDK to be a slushbox.
Dealers are now adding $5k or more market adjustments to the manufacturer listed MSRP! So it’s NOT the time to buy a Porsche Boxster or Cayman even if it’s a great car! Time to wait. (Or be ripped off due to market crisis.)
My 911 3.2 Carrera stompin gounds..Decker, Latigo, Corral Cyns, Mulholland Dr.
I'm with ya with driving that beautiful Porsche Boxter! The reliability of Porsche is unequaled. I wouldn't have a piece of crap Nissan Z or any other sports car convertible if they gave it to me. Well, with the exception of the stellar Lexus LC 500.
Miatas are the modern reincarnation of the Lotus Elan, my boyhood favorite. 981 Spyder in my garage
Geez, it would be nice if you could actually get a Boxster GTS. Rumor has it, they will not be producing them again until very late 2022, maybe 2023. With my allocation deposit paid, my dealer is saying a 718T allocation will be coming through the door any day now, but he's no idea when a GTS allocation will be available. It's kinda killing me that I'm finally in a position to afford one of these magic machines, but can't find an allocation! ... so, now considering the T. Hum...
T is for touring I think. Not turbo
Speaking of EV, Porsche has stated the 718 will be transitioned to electric for 2025. For better or worse.
Definitely for worse. Weight. The reason I like the 718 so much is that it’s one of the only sports cars that still weighs under 3000lbs.
Sad news, indeed.
@@jonathanl2748
sales people are saying the Boxster's last flat 4 turbo will be the '23 model and that electric in some form will start with the '24 model. What I heard as of December '21.
@@lukepopovich6396 There was so much complaining about the engine sound as a result of going from 6 cylinders to 4 cylinders. That will be nothing compared to Porsche having to create fake sound on an electric engine.
I need an upgrade.
$104K for a Boxster WTF
Why on earth you didn’t open the convertible roof and show us how ?!!!
You just hold button down. It does it automatically in about 10 seconds.
Isn't the 718 the one die-hard Porsche fans hated on for having "just" a turbocharged 4 cylinder?
Indeed. That said, I picked up a 2018 Cayman GTS this year, which has the much “hated” 2.5 turbo 4. It’s a blast. Fantastic car.
Definitely underrated... over 400hp.. believe you me.. pdk all the way..aub 4sec.
Top Gear says: you cannot, absolute not, drive with your top off if you're over 28.
So they say driving with the top down is only for rich people's kids because in this universe veeeeeery few will afford a convertible before they hit 28, most probably it's like 30-35. Maybe even 40.
That's unless they buy an old UAZ 3151 phaeton.
@@ldmtag Its a joke. They don't mean it literally. Btw, there are a loooooooot of cheap convertibles, like Peugeot, Mazda, Mini, Fiat 500, Opel, etc... All less than 30k brand new that many young yuppies can afford. And I'm not even talking about old used convertibles.
@@bluceree7312 to me "to afford" means more than being able to save enough money to buy it. You need to buy a house/flat, maybe travel to some country, pay for kid's school, buy a normal crossover car first, etc. To meet my criteria of affording a sportscar you have to be like 25 years in your profession, have grown-up, employed kids (or no kids) and have hundreds of thousands of retirement savings. Or just go for something incredibly old and cheap. But damn sportscars never get cheap, even if they're old!
@@bluceree7312 yep, I forgot to mention I wasn't counting non-sportscar convertibles. I mentioned UAZ 3151, I thought that'd be obvious I was speaking about the likes of Boxster, Z4, MX-5, etc.
I'd take a Taycan.
CALL ME CRAZY but still loving much more the rude sound of a 986 roaring at 7000 rpm
No, the one I want is the PDK. That manual is basically only useful in daily driving for 2 gears. First to second and that's it. Second gear will take you to 80 mph.
Audio is terrible especially near the end. I want to clearly hear what you are saying. Can you rerelease this with tweaked audio?
3:30: today a Tesla blew past me. And it sounded awesome. It sounded….. LIGHT. So yes, the current generation of convertibles powered by gasoline is the last. But let’s hope that the automakers, in their rush to put us all on oversized electric bubbles, don’t forget to make some electric convertible sports cars.
Funny, cause while the Tesla's are certainly fast, "light" is not what they are.
@@62Sketch Truth.
My next car. Vroom vroom baby!
Spent a seven-year stretch living at Cabrillo Beach in L.A., between emerging from my native Pacific Northwest and settling down on the wife's ancestral family farm in Europe post- SoCal. My consistent strategy, in either of our upgraded convertibles (MX-5, Cabriolet), was to avoid the freeways. Became a student of the surface streets and country highways, and never tired chasing routes from the canyons up to Big Sur, frequent adventures upstate and through the Sierra and southern Cascades up north. I will always appreciate having the western half of North America (Canada too!) as my playground for the first forty years. Thankfully, today's equivalent is an R-Line Touareg and the field & forest tracks of western Europe... =)
Companies dont even bother to make ads anymore on themselves... they just pay youtuber to do it for them.
IMO, the maintenance costs of vehicles like this are what keeps them out of the hands of more people. EV sportsters may not sound as good, but they will be far more affordable to own.
Save the buttons!
. You got to improve your audio quality in your video ‘cause it was almost impossible to hear you in that red Cayman.
Nice car here
$125k for a loaded 718? WHAT ...The new Z06 convertible probably gonna be 20k less than that.
It's not always about performance or price. Some people like Porches, some like Chevys. And for some yet unexplained reason some even prefer Stellantis.
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I like Porsches as well, don't get me wrong but their pricing is scam imho...You gotta pay extra for 2 zone climate control on a 100K base Boxster
@@jaymario2 Do you really need this with such a smaller interior car?
But you won’t get the same level of driving dynamics as this lightweight small nimble Porsche. The Vette is too big and heavy imo.
Lmao everybody saying they would take a 2022 Boxster over a 2022 911 base is lying to themselves
T stands for turbo??? Wow!
Porsche will have an electric sports car convertible 718 booster in 2025….unless the shortages ruin their plans!
I heard from sales people the change will begin with the '24 model year for the 718s
MG just came out with electric sports car
For the same money, I think I'd rather have the much quicker, NA C8 Corvette convertible, although it no longer comes in a manual, you'd have to settle for the DCT.
C8 looks ugly, handles bad. May as well have a tesla model 3 performance.
I would take the boxster gts
@@Jay-xr3sb To each his own. Looks are subjective. But as far as handling & performance, the C8 is beats any boxster in every category. Different performance options (base, Z06, ZR1, etc) of the C8 will compare more closely to the 911.
@@barrydraper it'll will I'm a straight line, something you yanks love.
But no, the gts/gt4 and most boxsters handle better and are balanced.
Subjective? Sure....but there are things that most people agree ok when they aren't biased. Like the lfa sounds better than the C8.
The C8 is a mishmash of design, hunches are too big. It looks like a 5 year old drawing of a supercar.
@@barrydraper and the boxster isn't even the best looking car.
That looks like fun!
The boxter is a 4 cylinder
Your mom bought a Hyundai for $22k
But she could have bought a 987.1 low mileage Porsche Boxster and then showed her son how savvy she is. :)
It's true, the segment is dying. But you can jump in and keep it alive in your little world for a lot less than $80k.