Winner of a video, I have been researching "card counting" for a while now, and I think this has helped. Have you heard people talk about - Tonvelyn Xiylijah Trick - (search on google )? It is a great one off guide for learning how to make fast money using this lotto system without the headache. Ive heard some amazing things about it and my mate after a lifetime of fighting got cool success with it.
Great video. I would like a clarification in regards to the starting count. When I play 2 decks, I noticed that the dealer card penetration is roughly 50% of the shoe before they reshuffle the cards. Hence, it feels like as if I’m playing a 1 deck shoe. My question is do I treat it as if I’m playing 1 deck shoe and start the running count at 0 or do I keep it at 2 deck shoe with a starting running count of -4?? Pls advice. Thx
It ends up relatively the same. Supposedly the differential is this doesn't have as much effectiveness towards single to double deck games. If you already mastered hi-lo don't even bother learning another
Those comparative simulations have been run by Blackjack Apprenticeship and Wizard of Odds. Hi Lo beats KO handily every time of you play enough hands. The only reason do learn KO is if converting to true count in HL is too complicated. KO much easier but not as effective
@@drdrew3 You should link the studies instead of just mentioning them. Note,they don't appear if you just "google" them. The study I found was the one where in the beginning, KO does better than Hi lo, but as penetration increases, Hi lo did better. Overall it wasn't a very significant difference
love blackjack and i know hilo, ko, kiss, and even 2 level card counting systems by heart. i have made money using these systems , and lost even more by not having discipline in knowing if not winning , just need to stop or bet low till start winning. and then bet according to count system or betting system. really like these videos.
When using KO on a 6 deck shoe the count starts at -20 right? do I have to wait till the count gets positive to bet more or is it different i can't get above -9 sometimes.
Patience. If the count is negative, you do not have an advantage and should either not bet if possible (wong out) or to avoid suspicion, table minimum bet. If you can’t get above -9, then you do not get to deviate from minimum bets (NOR SHOULD YOU WANT TO)x
You took the time and broke down KO pretty well and your first video was a deviation video but only for hi lo. You didn’t include the deviation chart for KO in either video. Might wanna include that. You can look the chart up online.
I don't think this makes much sense mathematically. With Hi/Lo, the true count represents how many actual excess 10/A per deck there are. Here, starting at -28, if you get an amazing 18 low cards in a row, you'll still be at a running count of -10, even though there's a ton more face cards in the deck right now.
for me its not the division, its the constantly crossing backand forth over zero that throws my brain off. thank you brain damage..grr. can remember the strategy but the moving over zero for the running count is gonna take some brain rehab to deal with.
There is no way that online casino is a good game to count cards. The deck penetration on the 8 deck shoe was like 4 decks. So, there is no way to make that game profitable.
99.99999999 percent of the people who watch this video will never even try it, much less make it work. I doubt current card counters are shaking in their shoes.
Colin Jones guys over at BJA are all doing hundreds of thousands and he has over 200k subscribers. Card counting isn’t going anywhere. For ever 1 person that tries it 1,000 will fail and hand the casino money because they can’t manage their BR or calculate their ROR appropriately
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Winner of a video, I have been researching "card counting" for a while now, and I think this has helped. Have you heard people talk about - Tonvelyn Xiylijah Trick - (search on google )? It is a great one off guide for learning how to make fast money using this lotto system without the headache. Ive heard some amazing things about it and my mate after a lifetime of fighting got cool success with it.
KO running count is very strong, and proven by simulation.
Best video thank you so much
Love your videos!
Great video. I would like a clarification in regards to the starting count. When I play 2 decks, I noticed that the dealer card penetration is roughly 50% of the shoe before they reshuffle the cards. Hence, it feels like as if I’m playing a 1 deck shoe. My question is do I treat it as if I’m playing 1 deck shoe and start the running count at 0 or do I keep it at 2 deck shoe with a starting running count of -4?? Pls advice. Thx
No, that is still a 2 deck game. Best advice is try to avoid any games that have only 50 percent deck penetration!
Also have you tried counting cards online and did you make a profit?
Definitely gonna need to see the math on this vs high low
The math is pretty similar, I would recommend using the card counting strategy that fits the best for you
It ends up relatively the same. Supposedly the differential is this doesn't have as much effectiveness towards single to double deck games. If you already mastered hi-lo don't even bother learning another
Those comparative simulations have been run by Blackjack Apprenticeship and Wizard of Odds. Hi Lo beats KO handily every time of you play enough hands. The only reason do learn KO is if converting to true count in HL is too complicated. KO much easier but not as effective
@@drdrew3 You should link the studies instead of just mentioning them. Note,they don't appear if you just "google" them. The study I found was the one where in the beginning, KO does better than Hi lo, but as penetration increases, Hi lo did better. Overall it wasn't a very significant difference
@@drdrew3 wrong, it’s about the same
What about 4 deck shoe?
What is the difference between REKO and KO? REKO is easier how?
can you have softwarre that also does ko
What's the impact on the deviation chart?
It gives you more edge & it increase your overall EV by 10%
@@bibbomedia2036 I mean the deviation chart is based on the hi-lo system so we need another deviation chart for the KO system right? What is it?
BlackjackHacker yeah what is it, do you know?
My bro, do you have de deviation chart for this counting system?
love blackjack and i know hilo, ko, kiss, and even 2 level card counting systems by heart. i have made money using these systems , and lost even more by not having discipline in knowing if not winning , just need to stop or bet low till start winning. and then bet according to count system or betting system. really like these videos.
Great channel. I like you.
When using KO on a 6 deck shoe the count starts at -20 right? do I have to wait till the count gets positive to bet more or is it different i can't get above -9 sometimes.
Patience. If the count is negative, you do not have an advantage and should either not bet if possible (wong out) or to avoid suspicion, table minimum bet. If you can’t get above -9, then you do not get to deviate from minimum bets (NOR SHOULD YOU WANT TO)x
You took the time and broke down KO pretty well and your first video was a deviation video but only for hi lo. You didn’t include the deviation chart for KO in either video. Might wanna include that. You can look the chart up online.
I can’t find the deviation chart any links?
@@sethxfaithful6878 probably will be able to find it in the book.
I don't think this makes much sense mathematically. With Hi/Lo, the true count represents how many actual excess 10/A per deck there are. Here, starting at -28, if you get an amazing 18 low cards in a row, you'll still be at a running count of -10, even though there's a ton more face cards in the deck right now.
At +18 starting at 0 (or -10 if you start at -28), it calls for 5x bet assuming 8 decks and 1-10x spreading.
Is counting cards working/effective for online casinos?
It can be effective but not as much as counting cards in real life casinos because it only has 50% deck penetration in online casinos
@@bibbomedia2036 50 percent pen....there is NO advantage online!
no
Why you include 7 to +1 it supposed to be 0
For KO 7 is a +1 card
for me its not the division, its the constantly crossing backand forth over zero that throws my brain off. thank you brain damage..grr. can remember the strategy but the moving over zero for the running count is gonna take some brain rehab to deal with.
I switched to this much better
There is no way that online casino is a good game to count cards. The deck penetration on the 8 deck shoe was like 4 decks. So, there is no way to make that game profitable.
Ko system is the best choice for 1 to 2 decks but Hi-lo is way better Imo for more decks
You shouldnt tell people this system bud, ur making it harder for counters to have careers just because you want a couple RUclips views
99.99999999 percent of the people who watch this video will never even try it, much less make it work. I doubt current card counters are shaking in their shoes.
Colin Jones guys over at BJA are all doing hundreds of thousands and he has over 200k subscribers. Card counting isn’t going anywhere. For ever 1 person that tries it 1,000 will fail and hand the casino money because they can’t manage their BR or calculate their ROR appropriately
Lol the KO system is just as good as hi-lo