Newly Re-Designed EcoFlow Delta2: the BEST 1000Wh Power Station I've Seen. Period.
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- Опубликовано: 15 дек 2022
- This power station really surprised me! It out-performs any other 1000Wh capacity power station on the market...AND has a FIVE year warranty....AND is expandable up to 3KWh....AND is not premium-priced!!
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Hi, new to your channel Thank you for sharing your video. I just recently purchased Delta 2 Max.
A very informative review. Thank you.
I agree that the Delta 2 is definitely the best power station since it only needs 80 minutes to fully charge.
Dont forget if you want extra baterry you have to aways use it with the delta 2 separate not possible
This comment is meant to give others food for thought. About 3 yrs ago l equipped my WeeRoll cargo trailer rv with solar using deep cycle lead acid and roof mtd panels. I used Victron charge controllers. I started off with 2 batteries charged by ~400 watt panels. I learned the tricks of DC self contained. Li ion was way too expensive and these portable power units either didn't exist or were prohibitively expensive. After experience camping..boondocking, l added 2 more lead acid batteries, a 350 watt panel and another charge controller. All toll l spent maybe $1,500 and spent a lot of time buikding. I found that fun but gosh if this was available then l'd have like this way and avoided my rub glodberg spaghetti montage. The cost difference is remarkable. Just musing. I'd recommend going with one of these and avoid the complexity. Just my 2 cents.
I agree. With capacity of these Solar power stations increasing, they are very practical. No doubt the next year should see better devices (like this one has shown in one year) with more capabilities AND better pricing.
(Just like the 42" flat screen marketplace over the last few years :))
I chalk it up to the cost of education..l spent my entire career both public and industrial in technical training and education. I majored in physics. So l have seen the cost of ignorance. But acquiring the knowledge and experience isn't cheap either! 👍
Education is expensive and invaluable. You learned more than the plug and play guy.
Thanks for the video. I just ordered the Delta 2 with the Delta max battery and this is very helpful. If Ecoflow could make it just a little more expandable that would be really great. Delta Max, I think is not LFePo4 but it does bring capacity to over 3000 watts. Adding another 2000-4000 watts would no doubt shock the industry. Really looking forward to using it on my next camping trip.
I agree Dave. I bought a Delta 2 and now I wish I bought a larger base unit versus adding a clumsy battery to it right away. Not excited about anything not LFP, for safety reasons. Looking at the Bluetti AC200Max which starts with 2048 Wh and can expand to two big batteries. Not tickled with their support though.
Picked one up 4th of July special 499 half off perfect investment
I got one too on amazon for the same price
Just bought one with the 220 watt solar panels for just over $900. on sale. Probably going to expand with an additional battery. I have a honda EU2200 and 20 stabilized gallons of premiun gas for recharging sort of a hybrid system.
We really get done over in UK for prices on many items. Especially these power banks.
$1355 in UK £1105
I can get the allpower monster max Pro for £1100 which I think is twice the power
It's SO nice to see more and more variety coming to market in this space! I really wanted something: easily portable but expandable to at least 3000KWH, to power high-draw AC components (window air conditioner, hair dryer), and w/ the option to not auto-shutdown so there's some UPS capability. I planned to DIY a hand cart solution this coming spring if I couldn't find anything like that for under $3K. This Delta 2 checks all the boxes for me at around $2K on sale. I'll probably order it this week after some more research, of course! 😉
Thanks for your great reviews! A few questions:
1. How does this compare to the Anker 757? Anker's new line seems to be the best competitor to EcoFlow based on reviews I have seen. Maybe a head to head video?
2. How does fan noise compare to the competition and previous version?
3. Why is DC efficiency so low? I would have thought much better than AC with no inverter loss. Was the inverter off during that test? Or does stepping down to 12V have that much loss alone?
4. Might be worth a mention with EcoFlow products their ability to pair with their Smart Generator which is a big selling point for me. I am currently debating going Anker with generic generator as backup or the EcoFlow system that works together to keep the battery topped off.
That is one really fast charging power station as most 1kWh power stations needs more than a few hours to fully charge and that beast only needs 80 minutes.
I'm pretty sure that the Delta beats out all the other power station in terms of charging. Eighty minutes is really quick.
Have watched many of your portable power reviews. Thank You, Thank You! You do them quite well. After looking at many brands and joining their Facebook groups, I am seeing a few of these companies in which customer service seems rather questionable. I tried to buy a Delta 2 about two months ago and could not get anyone on the phone, nor chat, couldn't leave phone messages as the mailbox was full, etc. Several emails went unanswered. This has happened with several other portable power companies as well. These offshore companies are not using any US -based people to contact. I think it would be great if you added this component to your review mix. That being said, I have found that those companies with Facebook efforts tend to have slightly better opportunities to reach someone, although China hours, not US!! I did get the Delta2 (and it is fine) and now I want to return it and get a bigger capacity base unit in lieu if adding a battery right now. Maybe add one later... But I am sooo irritated in the general lack of decent customer service from many of these offshore tech companies...Thx again..Dave
Thanks for sharing your experiences, my friend!
Ecoflow has been appalling in Australia. They recently ran a big promo campaign on their website for their "Black Friday sale", with a countdown timer, etc. I was planning to buy a Delta 2 + extra battery, but held off until the sale started, as who doesn't want to save some money? Anyway, yesterday was the big sale day - I went to their website... and.... NO DISCOUNT AT ALL on Delta 2 OR an extra battery. SO disappointing! To top it all off, their US Black Friday sale has a special offer for Delta 2 + extra battery + solar panel at US$1249 - approximately A$1960. On the Australian site, the Delta 2 ALONE is listed for $1999. Make it make sense!! And when I complained about it in the Ecoflow Australia FB group, I was banned. I guess they REALLY don't want to sell me anything!!!
Ecoflow is best of breed.
I have a question hopefully someone can help me with an answer. Let's assume I have a thousand watt unit that has discharged to 600 Watts can I assume charging with 200 watts from a solar panel that it will take approximately 2 hours to recharge?
Great review! Best bang for your buck! After months of reviewing power stations, my first choice was the Ecoflow Delta Pro, however, at almost 4 times the cost and 4 times the weight the (expandible) Delta 2 fit my needs and budget perfectly! I plan to use ours in our home office as backup power for two computers, two low-watt LED lamps, and Starlink Internet Service. Although it does not switch fast enough to be used as a true UPS system I will have the power to restart and continue anything I'm working on. I did use the app to limit the A/C charge rate down to 1000 watts to reduce inverter fan noise, and the discharge limit to 15% to keep some power in reserve.
Nice! And I will say (since I forgot to mention it in the video!) that the EPS mode actually did basically perform as a UPS with my computer.
@@ReeWrayOutdoors ~ My Delta 2 is not in its primary location yet, although we had a slight mishap with a space heater last week that tripped a beaker that would not reset. I used the Delta 2 (and battery) for 2 days to power up the office until Amazon delivered a new set of breakers.
I've also seen various UPS vs EPS results in other reviews, I just haven't tested my unit out yet. I am currently assembling a separate solar array circuit with four 12V x 120W panels (480-watts) and the matching Delta 2 expandible (LifePo4) Battery primarily for the home office and a completely separate system from the house Solar/Generator/Switchgear/Battery circuit.
Did you find any explanation why the dc efficiency is lower the the ac ? In my mind, the inverter should lose more energy and have less efficiency on the ac side pf things.
Can anyone please clarify if i can daisy chain two Delta 2 unit together rather than pay so much for an extra battery that is so plain no connections etc.
I thought why not buy another Delta 2 and daisy chain them by using the AC cable to one unit then plug second unit into the mains if im correct.
I cant get a definite answer even from an ecoflow advisor.
Sorry i did not watch whole video im a bit confused with all these different names a numbers Lol!But what are your thoughts on the ecoflow delta max 1600 and have you done a video on it if so can you provide me with a link to it?Thankyou!
Every time I look at a Delta 2 review I can't help but compare it to the Oupes 1800 which has 1450KWH and 1800 watts capacity as a solar power station. It weighs 6 pounds more than the new Delta 2 and costs only $200 more. That price is comparable to what is offered by the Delta 2 when you consider that you get extra KwH storage and have it all in one unit (no add on needed to get to 1350 kwh tested).
Have you thought about reviewing the Oupes 1800?
When are you going to compare it to the Anker Solix C1000?
Is there enough power to start diesel heater
Could you use a combiner adapter off 2 of the AC outlets into a 30 amp generator transfer switch to power select house circuits ?
You can do that but just be aware that you'd still be limited to 15A total output from the Delta 2 AC inverter.
FYI it does not support dual charging with A/C and solar at the same time it also will not accept any inputs if it is fully charged
Sir; I’m an avid viewer of your channel and need help with this question. My 2019’ Ford F150 has the OEM 400w built in inverter, but, it is not pure sine wave. During my research I’m seeing folks’ videos that recommend plugging in an aftermarket 300w inverter into the trucks 110 outlet which they are claiming that since the aftermarket inverter IS a pure sine wave, that will solve any potential problems that the oem non-sine wave inverter would/could have caused. The question is, since supposedly the trucks’ 110 outlet is limited to 10 amps, what benefit would this recommendation actually deliver? Thank you for your time and trouble.
One additional question: I see a lot of portable power supplies being advertised that come with the “cigarette lighter” charging adapter included. If the idea is that the owner can plug in the cigarette adapter into their vehicle while driving in order to charge the portable power supply, why would that be a good idea if the Ford inverter is not a pure sine wave? Thanks again?
how to connect a Portable power station to a receptacle of a fireplace fan motor
Why can’t you access the delta 2 remotely on the app any longer?
Please recommend similar product but not noisy! Thank you
Whats the lowest setting that you can set in the app for AC charging? You showed 300watts whats the lowest? Another question, can it be charged by solar and AC at the Same time? Like setting the AC charge rate at 200watts and connecting a 220watts solar panel for combine charging
Hey thanks for your questions. 200W is the lowest setting you can select on thie Delta 2. No dual-charging, apparently. I just tested it and once it detects AC input, it shuts-off DC input. Kind of makes sense that they designed it that way since it can pull 1200W of AC which is super fast charging for this capacity.
@@ReeWrayOutdoors The idea is to be able to set the max charge at 200 watts. Have an inverter charge it from my Van,s battery and also connect solar at the same time. This would permit my small alternator to charge the Delta and have some surplus from the solar (the bluetti eb3a does this but not my delta mini. Was hopping that the Delta 2 would.
My total DC output from full to empty was only 750Wh. :( I may try to recalibrate the charge cycle, but that is pretty crappy for a 1024Wh rating...
Thank you for your videos they have been helpful for years now. We are also considering MONTEX-X 1000...would you consider a good product for review ?
Took me a couple of tries to find the product due to the typo haha (Montek vs Montex)! But this is a very interesting product. A bit on the pricey side (in terms of cost per Wh). I definitely wouldn't get the bundle with the 80W panel - you'd want a 200W+ panel for this. I do also wish it were LiFePO4 chem instead of L-NMC, but it's cycle rating seems respectable. And I do like the form factor. Very unique design. I might reach out to them and see if they'd let me review one. Thanks for the tip!
@@ReeWrayOutdoors Grateful for your reply as your advice / reviews are very important . I agree with you in every respect . We find the" Montek X 1000 very interesting mostly because of durability absolutely but missing LifePO4 does reduce lifespan
@@beachykeen95 I sent them a note to see if they'd let me review one. We shall see! :)
Ok so....guess what just showed up today?! Montek X1000...AND their 400W Portable solar panel! I haven't even opened the box yet! I'll try and get to this sometime in the next 4 weeks for you! :)
@@ReeWrayOutdoors very excited & thankful
What is your take on the fan noises when the Delta 2 is charging?
Hi! I've heard there is a new Firmware Update that adjusts the range of fan speeds and corrects the delay in the UPS switchover time. I just can't seen to find a link on either of the Echoflow Web Sites ( USA or Canadian ). I am going to lower the charging rate in the app from 1200 watts to 600 watts. Take care. Thanks! Richard C.
I have enjoyed by ECO Flow Delta 2, but the AC output will not read power draw on the display or within the app. the App's customer support function goes over a month with no response to questions. Maybe they are busy?
Have you tried going through their support? You can email or call them: us.ecoflow.com/pages/contact-us
Dig the Max 2
Do LFP batteries have high temperature limits?
I was thinking about leaving a solar unit on and operating my refrigerator (which is DC Rec-Pro 2 door upright, 12watts) 24/7 in my Trailer RV toy hauler conversion. It is insulated. But worried if I’m away the trailer may get too warm inside and shut the solar unit down and the refrigerator. I just want to be sure not to get a unit if this will be an issue, at least until I design a way to keep temperatures in the trailer within specs so I don’t damage my unit or the refrigerator. Thanks.
The max temp spec (for charge/discharge) on the Delta 2 is 113F - so its BMS will stop charging/discharging if it detects the internal temp exceeding 113F. So yeah, that's definitely a concern in an enclosed environment with little/no airflow, like what you're describing.
@@ReeWrayOutdoors sorry I meant 72 watts, 12volt, but either way, thank you for responding. I will run some tests to make sure the trailer temps do not get too high. I have an alternate plan if they do. Thanks again. Really loving your posts and advice.
Is there a way to add fan venting from underneath the trailer while it's stationary, since it's shaded from the sun/heat and is usually cooler?
There was a man living in his van with 2 dogs and he would tie them outside where they always laid under the van. Animal control was called and they said the temp was much lower under the van and it was ok, the dogs weren't suffering from the heat.
@@sherryh7485 Even in 100 heat my trailer was about 85 inside. I seldom am in 100 heat as I live nomad and travel north or south and higher or lower in elevation to regulate my climate. Parking in the shade does help. But I have a small fan and windows so I will need to do some better testing this summer. If I still have some issues, I have another idea involving an ambient temperature cooler, maybe retrofitting it so it blows a cooler breeze across the back of the unit. (. 40 degrees cooler than surrounding air) That will definitely work but may be unnecessary. No one else seems to be having this issue. But thank you for the suggestion. I never installed a roof vent or fan as I am never in the trailer during the day. It’s always comfy at night. It’s for sleep, cooking, and rain and thief protection. Not for sitting in during beautiful sunny days. I will test and redesign as needed.
For an average homeowner who has no experience with power generators, how long will it run a kitchen refrigerator or 75” tv? As practical examples.
Hard to be super precise since this will vary from TV to TV and from Fridge to fridge...BUT for me, my 65" TV uses about 145W per hour...so round that up to, say, 175W and then divide that into about 850Wh and you get just under 5 hours. For my 12 year full-size fridge, it uses 94W per hour...so round that up to 100W and you'd get about 8.5 hours of runtime from the Delta 2.
I have ordered one, I want to run a 2.5hp motor just for 1 min if power goes out it a lift to come up out of the basement
Thanks for the review. I don’t think I heard you mention UPS functionally. Does this unit have that?
Yes, but they call it EPS (totally forgot to mention it!). It's not technically the same as UPS but for most purposes it's functionality equivalent.
Yep, EPS = ~30ms switchover where typical UPS switchover is
@@Justin-C so just put the UPS right before your sensitive devices )
@@wonigu No argument there. Use em if you've got em! I've got my whole desk setup on a UPS, along with my server + network equipment.
What is your take on purchasing an expansion battery for an EcoFlow, knowing that it’s non functional without the base unit, such as an EcoFlow pro?
Since a 1000Wh additional battery costs about the same or more than the Delta 2, should we just buy another Delta 2 Unit instead?
Personally I actually like that idea since it gives you more options. And if you need extra capacity to have double the uninterrupted runtime, you could simply charge one with the other in a pinch....not quite as efficient since it's not DC to DC, but (I think) worth the benefit of all the other things a 2nd Delta 2 gets you.
EcoFlow says that if you intend to store the unit for long periods (disconnected from the mains) you need to discharge it to 0% then recharge it to 100% every 3 months. I only intend to use the unit in the case of a power outage, so it could easily be unused for a year or more. Their recommendation for discharging it is to connect it to a high-wattage appliance such as a microwave (must be less than 1800W). That seems pretty inconvenient since you'd have to run the appliance continuously for a long time. I don't want to use a heat gun or portable heater in the summer time since the unit will be in my house. I've looked online for some sort of dedicated discharger but can't seem to find anything. What would be the best way to do this on a regular basis? Also, you mentioned leaving your unit plugged into the mains all the time. EcoFlow support says this will ruin the battery. "If there is no device connected to the unit through an AC outlet while the unit is plugged into the mains, the unit will keep charging after it is fully charged. This can keep the unit always fully charged but certainly will do harm to the battery. So we do not recommend you do this."
Thanks for any help -
John
Well, generating heat and running a compressor are probably the 2 most common intestive loads. So in the summer, if you don't want to generate heat, maybe a small window AC would be most appropriate - since they typically draw continous ~600W. But really, with LiFePO4 chemistry, I'm not sure what the big benefit is to fast discharging vs slow discharging (other than time convenience, obviously). Most Mfg recommendations for power stations are to store at about 60-80% SOC and recheck every 6 months or so. EcoFlow's recommendation seems a bit overkill to me (unless their BMS more actively drains power over time than most mfgs as part of a battery conditioning routine) since I doubt the net benefit of all that extra work/attention will be all that noticeable.
You're overthinking it. Lithium phosphate batteries don't have the limitations nor durability problems of lithium ion batteries. Just use it and re-charge it at your convenience. You don't have to baby it like lithium ion.
Which Lithium iron Phosphate battery would you recommend for dashcam use of motion detection during parking mode?
Interesting use-case! You wouldn't need a lot of capacity for that.... I think the River 2 might be a good option. Not terribly expensive, and small enough to easily hide. You could also run a 12v fridge with that while you're parked too.
@@ReeWrayOutdoors Thanks, would it be enough power to handle the dash-cam running while driving during daytime? Is the review in your content?
@@seekfactsnotfiction9056 yeah. I think I linked a card in this Delta 2 video right in the first few seconds to that River 2 video. You could easily keep the River 2 charging off the car's 12v while it powers the dash cam. And now that I think about it, I've actually got a review planned in the next 3 or 4 weeks on a nice dash cam, so I'll definitely put this use-case to the test in that video. :)
Great job. You're a pro at doing these reviews...better than Mr. Oxiclean!!👍👍👍
@@seekfactsnotfiction9056 Do the math based on the amount of power your device consumes (we don't know, but being a dashcam it's almost definitely under 10W, but probably more like 2-5W).
R2M has ~512Wh battery so even at 10 watts, the R2m would last ~50 hours running it continuously.
That said, I don't think I'd recommend keeping one of these units in the car - 1. They're expensive and a nice prize for thieves. 2. Temperature fluctuations/extremes inside a car aren't kind to devices/batteries. Would probably be more suitable to get a small 12V battery than an AIO unit.
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It has my vote as the best powet station because it only needs eighty minutes to charge.
I wish these coupon codes worked on the Canadian Amazon site.
Let me reach out to my EcoFlow contact and see if they can provide one. If so, I'll pin it on the comments for you.
I just updated the description with this, but EcoFlow actually responded to my request and gave me a discount code for Canadian viewers. :) I haven't tried it to confirm, but it is supposed to be valid until 1/7/23: REEWRAY5
Awe, did the little door bother you? Otherwise, great review.
I nearly broke a nail trying to open it! LOL (not really...my nails are way too short)
The usable percent of the Delta 2 raises higher when you have the external battery connected, I believe that they thoroughly intended for that unit be used with the extra battery.
$650 on Amazon now!
Fans are WAY too loud. Upgrade them to what's used in the D2M and I'm buying it right away.
The vigorpool captain 1200 has a higher efficiency on dc and ac... not all not bashing ecoflow because i have a few of them.
Thanks for the tip. I'll have to see if I can check one of those out!
sadly ecoflo support is a joke. this guy must get this junk free,typical