No there are not, in Muay Boran you do not lock, you break. Joint locks are used in training for obvious reasons, you do not want to harm your partner, but the actual mentality of a Muay Boran practitioner is to not stop just before breaking the joint to submit your opponent with intense pain, but to break it as fast and explosively as possible. Some techniques while training with a partner look like a joint lock, but if you see them in shadow boxing they are joint-breaking techniques. The difference is that a joint lock is a controlled movement; even in high-level MMA competitions the fighter always controls the maneuver to ensure the safety of the opponent, this also means that the opponent has some time to think and try to counter the lock and reverse the situation. A joint break is a fast and explosive uncontrolled movement, like throwing a ball, which aims to break and not to cause pain. Training joint breaks is tricky because unlike strikes or wrestling you cannot perform them against a partner as you would perform them in a real fight, but most of the times this is not a problem, because in a real fight, even if you try to perform a joint break and you fail to break the limb, it does not matter, you can always continue the action with striking and grappling.
Striking techniques mimics sword strokes. Innovative!!! There's a lot more thai styles with clandestine methods of combat that I never heard of. Glad this art became noticeable to the world.
Many Muay Boran techniques are based on weapons kinesiology (as in Pankration) to easily transfer the training from weapons fighting to boxing and vice-versa. Originally Muay and Krabi Krabong were a single disciple, bare-handed techniques were studied to sustain weapons fighting. This trait is not unique to Muay Lert Rit, other styles retained this particular you noticed, one that comes to my mind is Muay Chaiya, with its signature forearm strikes which are basically the same motion of swords slashes but without a sword, or Muay Korat with its punching style which uses the vertical fist to punch even with a sword in hand.
I was taught a few of these techniques by my instructor back in the day [90's].... right hand open, fingers slightly spread.... step in extend arm with power, drive the opponents chin up, and or fingers to the nostrils and eyes[ it can be messy and unpredictable ], expose the throat for a hard horizontal left elbow [ for example ]
@SupremeEgyptianGodsMan Not really, only some Modern-Traditional styles, like Muay Lertrit, have been influenced by Japanese martial arts. No Savate and Wrestling influences.
Master Nara kenparsning.known as the trainer to champs.who trained, Bumiang lertrit. Who in turn trained me. A master of over 500 fights and reigned over the lumpini stadium for 10yrs
Awersome video! I have a question,I saw a video of a muay chaiya master fighting as a werestling, judo ne waza or brazilian jiu jitsu fighter, does this really exist in muay boran?
Not really. Muay Chaiya is one, if not the only Muay Boran style which transitions from stand-up fighting to ground fighting, but only to set up a finisher; for example, after grabbing a kicking leg, a Chaiya Practitioner might bring the opponent to the ground while falling with him to deliver an elbow to the throat, or by sitting on him and breaking the leg. I personally really dislike this approach, because basically in every other Muay Boran style falling to the ground is considered forbidden, because of the ancient military nature, and because ground fighting is not part of the Muay Boran repertoire and so it is never trained (Maybe it was lost, or perhaps never developed). In Muay Boran you finalize by standing up, there is no real need to go on the ground. In recent times few Muay Boran masters have developed a ground fighting basic defense system, to defend and get back up as soon as possible if you fall on the ground, which was really needed (I've personally implemented one in my style, the Modern Muay Boran). MMA is spreading a lot in Thailand and in recent times Chaiya practitioners competed in MMA fights, that's why you probably saw ground fighting, but it is not native to any Muay Boran style!
One more question do you know when your course will come out? and how much money would it be? will other courses come out or will you just keep adding to the first course ?
I'm planning to record it in June. In that time I'll release some videos on the strikes and offensive techniques, and some drills. Once I'll end editing it, it will be released, I don't know exactly when. I'll keep adding to it but I'll release new courses in the future. For the price, it will probably be around 99,99€, but it will probably be almost half the price for some time, so I recommend buying it as soon as possible. There is all my knowledge into it, and I'm trying to give the best content possible to help everyone reach their goals, it is very time-consuming producing it. I would like to release everything for free but it is not sustainable sadly.
@@abrahamlincoln6201 In American dollars it is higher, like 120$, but the initial price will be more affordable, so stay tuned and don't miss the launch!
@@Sira628 Wisit Lertrit came first, IMBA Lertrit was inspired by it. Personally, I think the IMBA is much more complete and practical compared to the Wisit one, but both have interesting concepts and techniques, so it's worth exploring both.
They are traditional Thai masks used in the Khon theater during the recitation of Ramakien, the most famous Thai epic poem. Ramakien is closely related to many aspects of Thai culture, including Muay Boran. I have videos about it on the channel if you're interested!
I like when muay boran developed into muay thai, for sports purpose & avoid killing each other in the ring.. A very traditional martial arts is very dangerous, because their intend is to kill the opponents as fast as they can.. Just like karate, that through of years developed into more safety than their original style, so does with kungfu & other very old martial arts, have evolved for sports & health, not to kill people anymore..
Just to point a few things out, before evolving into Muay Thai, Muay Boran already became more sport-oriented, reaching its peak around 1900-1928. Even the royal family actively promoted Muay Boran competitions and exhibitions. In Muay Boran you can find techniques that are suitable in a sports fight, but not for a real battle for survival; these techniques were developed in the periods of the peace by boxers who fought in the ring. Eventually, around 1929 due to a tragic death during a fight, gloves and new rules were introduced which ultimately evolved into Muay Thai, but which also watered down the great Muay Boran repertoire. Incidents can occur even today in every sport, the fact that a fighter died doesn't necessarily mean that the art was too lethal. So, Muay Thai and Muay Boran can coexist as two different sports, and sport-oriented Muay Boran can coexist with both self-defense Muay Boran and Military Muay Boran 🙏
@@GaawutProductions i know that muay boran exist as sports before muay thai.. Muay thai is derived from muay boran with less & prohibited dangerous attack.. Back in the days where muay boran was the only fighting sports, to many fighter dies because the dangerous style of muay boran.. The king then ask for implemented new fighting sport that reduce risk, which is muay thai that we’ve known nowadays.. Back then, muay boran fighter fights until one is dead, that was so brutal & dangerous.. And same as lethwei, is the art of 9 limbs using head also.. While muay thai (8 limbs) become more acceptable combat sport with gloves & prohibited some dangerous move from muay boran..
@@GaawutProductions I like your honesty. No hyperbolic or exagerrated stories, no rude phrases or saying that your art is better than others. This I saw is a true martial artist. First lesson for self defense is respect and honesty.
And another question is there joint locks in muay boran
No there are not, in Muay Boran you do not lock, you break. Joint locks are used in training for obvious reasons, you do not want to harm your partner, but the actual mentality of a Muay Boran practitioner is to not stop just before breaking the joint to submit your opponent with intense pain, but to break it as fast and explosively as possible.
Some techniques while training with a partner look like a joint lock, but if you see them in shadow boxing they are joint-breaking techniques.
The difference is that a joint lock is a controlled movement; even in high-level MMA competitions the fighter always controls the maneuver to ensure the safety of the opponent, this also means that the opponent has some time to think and try to counter the lock and reverse the situation.
A joint break is a fast and explosive uncontrolled movement, like throwing a ball, which aims to break and not to cause pain.
Training joint breaks is tricky because unlike strikes or wrestling you cannot perform them against a partner as you would perform them in a real fight, but most of the times this is not a problem, because in a real fight, even if you try to perform a joint break and you fail to break the limb, it does not matter, you can always continue the action with striking and grappling.
@@GaawutProductions thanks for answering my question
@@abrahamlincoln6201 It was a pleasure!
Block (grab and strike) smash break
Striking techniques mimics sword strokes. Innovative!!! There's a lot more thai styles with clandestine methods of combat that I never heard of. Glad this art became noticeable to the world.
Many Muay Boran techniques are based on weapons kinesiology (as in Pankration) to easily transfer the training from weapons fighting to boxing and vice-versa.
Originally Muay and Krabi Krabong were a single disciple, bare-handed techniques were studied to sustain weapons fighting.
This trait is not unique to Muay Lert Rit, other styles retained this particular you noticed, one that comes to my mind is Muay Chaiya, with its signature forearm strikes which are basically the same motion of swords slashes but without a sword, or Muay Korat with its punching style which uses the vertical fist to punch even with a sword in hand.
I was taught a few of these techniques by my instructor back in the day [90's].... right hand open, fingers slightly spread.... step in extend arm with power, drive the opponents chin up, and or fingers to the nostrils and eyes[ it can be messy and unpredictable ], expose the throat for a hard horizontal left elbow [ for example ]
Wow! I tend to actually understand with time that muay boran has quite a history
My favorite Muay Boran channel!
Thank you very much!
@SupremeEgyptianGodsMan Not really, only some Modern-Traditional styles, like Muay Lertrit, have been influenced by Japanese martial arts. No Savate and Wrestling influences.
Your channel is great ❤️❤️❤️🇹🇭🇹🇭🇹🇭
Thank you!
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Master Nara kenparsning.known as the trainer to champs.who trained, Bumiang lertrit. Who in turn trained me. A master of over 500 fights and reigned over the lumpini stadium for 10yrs
Great production! 🙏
Nice video thanks for the new knowledge
Awersome video! I have a question,I saw a video of a muay chaiya master fighting as a werestling, judo ne waza or brazilian jiu jitsu fighter, does this really exist in muay boran?
Not really. Muay Chaiya is one, if not the only Muay Boran style which transitions from stand-up fighting to ground fighting, but only to set up a finisher; for example, after grabbing a kicking leg, a Chaiya Practitioner might bring the opponent to the ground while falling with him to deliver an elbow to the throat, or by sitting on him and breaking the leg. I personally really dislike this approach, because basically in every other Muay Boran style falling to the ground is considered forbidden, because of the ancient military nature, and because ground fighting is not part of the Muay Boran repertoire and so it is never trained (Maybe it was lost, or perhaps never developed). In Muay Boran you finalize by standing up, there is no real need to go on the ground. In recent times few Muay Boran masters have developed a ground fighting basic defense system, to defend and get back up as soon as possible if you fall on the ground, which was really needed (I've personally implemented one in my style, the Modern Muay Boran). MMA is spreading a lot in Thailand and in recent times Chaiya practitioners competed in MMA fights, that's why you probably saw ground fighting, but it is not native to any Muay Boran style!
Thank you very much
The pleasure it's mine Master 🙏
Hello gaawut i'd like to know if they still have a youtube channel cause i cant find it in the description.
Here it is: youtube.com/@worldmuaythaiallianceassoc1605
@@GaawutProductions thank you a lot friend
I want to learn that art.
Please fix your links, great info and videos 😀
If I had a nickel for every martial art purported to be ' too dangerous to be taught to the public' I'd be a very rich man.
where to learn it?
@@tmusic591 You can learn from the General in Thailand, he offers private lessons.
@@GaawutProductions Thank you. Which city he is living in? How can I contact him?
One more question do you know when your course will come out? and how much money would it be? will other courses come out or will you just keep adding to the first course ?
I'm planning to record it in June.
In that time I'll release some videos on the strikes and offensive techniques, and some drills.
Once I'll end editing it, it will be released, I don't know exactly when.
I'll keep adding to it but I'll release new courses in the future.
For the price, it will probably be around 99,99€, but it will probably be almost half the price for some time, so I recommend buying it as soon as possible.
There is all my knowledge into it, and I'm trying to give the best content possible to help everyone reach their goals, it is very time-consuming producing it.
I would like to release everything for free but it is not sustainable sadly.
@@GaawutProductions wait so how much money is 99,99 in American dollors
@@GaawutProductions so is 99,99 99.99 witch 99 dollars and 99 cents so it will be 100 or is it higher?
@@abrahamlincoln6201 In American dollars it is higher, like 120$, but the initial price will be more affordable, so stay tuned and don't miss the launch!
so which is style is the original?..
What do you mean?
@@GaawutProductions i mean is the imba or the wis lertrit better?
@@Sira628 Wisit Lertrit came first, IMBA Lertrit was inspired by it. Personally, I think the IMBA is much more complete and practical compared to the Wisit one, but both have interesting concepts and techniques, so it's worth exploring both.
@@GaawutProductions οκ thnx!
Also one question do those masks you were mean
They are traditional Thai masks used in the Khon theater during the recitation of Ramakien, the most famous Thai epic poem. Ramakien is closely related to many aspects of Thai culture, including Muay Boran. I have videos about it on the channel if you're interested!
@@GaawutProductions I remember that video it was good I didn't see it when it came out but I saw and liked
@@abrahamlincoln6201 Thank you!
This style resembles karate to some extent
Yes, it was heavily influenced by Karate, Aikido and Judo.
O muay thai militar , e baseado no Wong Chun + Shorynryu
I like when muay boran developed into muay thai, for sports purpose & avoid killing each other in the ring..
A very traditional martial arts is very dangerous, because their intend is to kill the opponents as fast as they can..
Just like karate, that through of years developed into more safety than their original style, so does with kungfu & other very old martial arts, have evolved for sports & health, not to kill people anymore..
Just to point a few things out, before evolving into Muay Thai, Muay Boran already became more sport-oriented, reaching its peak around 1900-1928.
Even the royal family actively promoted Muay Boran competitions and exhibitions.
In Muay Boran you can find techniques that are suitable in a sports fight, but not for a real battle for survival; these techniques were developed in the periods of the peace by boxers who fought in the ring.
Eventually, around 1929 due to a tragic death during a fight, gloves and new rules were introduced which ultimately evolved into Muay Thai, but which also watered down the great Muay Boran repertoire.
Incidents can occur even today in every sport, the fact that a fighter died doesn't necessarily mean that the art was too lethal.
So, Muay Thai and Muay Boran can coexist as two different sports,
and sport-oriented Muay Boran can coexist with both self-defense Muay Boran and Military Muay Boran 🙏
@@GaawutProductions i know that muay boran exist as sports before muay thai..
Muay thai is derived from muay boran with less & prohibited dangerous attack..
Back in the days where muay boran was the only fighting sports, to many fighter dies because the dangerous style of muay boran..
The king then ask for implemented new fighting sport that reduce risk, which is muay thai that we’ve known nowadays..
Back then, muay boran fighter fights until one is dead, that was so brutal & dangerous..
And same as lethwei, is the art of 9 limbs using head also..
While muay thai (8 limbs) become more acceptable combat sport with gloves & prohibited some dangerous move from muay boran..
@@GaawutProductions I like your honesty. No hyperbolic or exagerrated stories, no rude phrases or saying that your art is better than others. This I saw is a true martial artist.
First lesson for self defense is respect and honesty.
@@raymundbalce4550 Thank you 🙏