I Turned Hydro Traveler Into a Washing Machine
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It really speaks to how tragic the situation with Hydro Traveler is that back in your Candace video you were like "Ideally I don't want to resort to using *them* (Xiangling and Kazuha)" meanwhile in this video it wasn't even in question to include both 😭
Yeah, due to the playstyle, Kazuha is basically required. Xiangling can be swapped out for Klee, but is significantly harder to use
Also the fact theres theres practically no off field pyro as effective as xiangling
her burst is just so sad it would be so nice if it would be just stuck on a wall
Imagine, it's like another mc's burst works in the exact manner you are describing
Her burst literally said "adios"
Or if it just didn't move at all. It'd be amazing.
Even better, make it a *hydro* nado
@@TarZBlammo 1:57 The funniest thing is that Dehya is literally more useful without burst)))
People say HydroMc is bad because they don't understand their kit. HydroMc is clearly meant to be played as a support.
If you don't believe me, just look at the video and how efficiently Lumine cheered Kazuha, Bennett and Xiangling on, she provided so much moral support to them that they managed to beat the floors with what was basically a 3 person team and mostly just pyro! She's a pure support character, I tell you!
😂😂 I know this is not reddit, but only one response comes to mind.
:Angryupvote: 😤👍
ok im gonna just need you to explain why would anyone use him as support even if the character was build to be a support nobody is gonna use it if it is a bad support in every way possible
@@Fetska1 I genuinely can't tell if you're continuing the joke and I'm just not getting it, or if you didn't read past the first 2 sentences. xD
@@user89389doesn't look like a joke, poor thing
Incorrect, instead of emotional support, she mentally harassed me
The fact that Hydro MC looked more useless in this teamcomp than Aloy and Candace in their videos tells a lot about the kit. Like, if the bubble at least got stuck on enemies, she could at least be used as a decent hydro applicator, although it still wouldn't be an S tier character due to the icd problem.
Given the total damage dealt, hmc is a bit better than Aloy (though that's not saying much), but worse than Candace. I have no idea why this kit even exists at this point, devs will probably buff it with some artifact set for the channeling ability, but even then it doesn't make much sense
@@TarZBlammo I've honestly given up on any character other than archons ever getting buffed by the devs...
Or the Geo element as a whole.
@@lol-gameplay7290 I can think of plenty characters than have been buffed: Koko, Childe, Xiao, Xingqiu etc etc. Whether or not you think they deserved it, isn't the point, you're just wrong
Aloy isn’t thaaat bad
She’s just a little hard to play
My aloy team is
Kazuha
Aloy
Bennett
Yun Jin
And she is basically a free and less powerful cryo Yoimiya
Shes able to get 20-30 k NA in that team
Constellations would be highly appreciated tho
With minor fixes to her kit she would be amazing and a true 5 star
For
Example
making ice rush activate at the skill or burst hit, or at least make it easier maybe just 2 hits or make her enter the state if she hits a bomb with a CA
Ice rush 2-5 sec longer
Make ice bombs lure enemies
@@VictorIbelles it's a long time I think that all aloy need to be a decent character are two change: 1) the skill launch all the bomb forward 2) her brust have a bigger AOE. This because of 1) Her skill could be good with her passive, but she need to hit with all the bombs, that's hard when the bombs are all in different directions unless you are surrounded. Even then it's not a simple thing. 2) her brust is a single target, single hit but with a large AOE type of damage, so if her AOE was larger it could be used at very least on groups of mobs as CC
It would have been so much better if they just gave us a healer mc instead
One thing that I hate about MC is they don't do last hit with the elements anymore. Only Anemo and Geo MC can last hit with the element, I miss this in electro, dendro and now hydro T_T
omg same i was so upset when i found out
what do you mean?
@@blanche__The combo of a normal attacks. In the end of it anemo and geo MC deals additional elemental damage.
ohh i used to be an mc main and i never knew that :0 it is a constellation thing?@@Mc_Utka
@@blanche__ It's just a passive talent.
The hydro mc is a really letdown. All the effort for anemo reskin
It's really a feelsbad moment
And really, anemo mc was better than this because it sucked up the enemies.This is the same thing as amc but somehow worse
i´m more surprised that Mihoyo managed to actually make a bad Hydro character
Reskin? More like recolor
100% reskin would be better, they're even make it worse😂
With those S tier sup dps, traveller actually don't matter at all. Awesome game design
I still have 0 ideas why mihoyo thought that it's a good idea to make you level up traveler's talents every time new element is released. this alone killed any intentions to use traveler that i had before.
That moment when it's significantly harder to make HMCs burst work compared to other "problem" characters like Aloy and Dehya.
Your showcase makes Aloy look as easy to play as Ei haha
Alloy damage is bad but she is completely usable as quick swap character while Dehya is now decent with Furina but yea she is still meh compared to other 5 star char
@@zeromailssI saw a team consisting of Aloy, Furina, Baizhu and Xiangling creating a sorta Freeze Burgeon team but there's a variety of teams you could create with Aloy and Furina.
Hydro MC's burst = Ayaka's burst that always misses
Worse
Worse cuz less multipliers, being Hydro cannot swirl well, and cannot be recharged easily like Ayaka’s.
The hydro MC’s burst is like the beta version of Ayaka lol
They both go through enemies
The idea of wanting to use 100% of the character resonates a lot with me. I've been building several characters this way, making them coop viable in every single session without fail. Also makes for more fun on field times with just about everyone. Well, everyone who's not Gorou...
I don't know how you make Anemo kit worse, but they somehow did. At least Geo traveler has *some* uses. (Offers crit rate and stagger resist, geo resonance, geo battery/funneler, funny microwave build w/Zhongli). I can't wait to see what you figure out in the video with Hydro MC!
Anemo MC isnt even bad, it`s just an issue of finding a good damage that can hit enemies in tornado
Hydro Traveler sure is a let down. That doesn't stop me from using him though and I've made his kit work but not on Abyss. I straight up skipped Neuvillette because of how OP he is but now that I got Furina, I think is time to revert back to Dendro Traveler so I can run him with her. Now, people might call me out since Furina seems to be OP too but 1. Nowhere near as much as Neuvillette and 2. After playing the Archon Quest AND Character Quest, I just HAD to get her.
i like to watch your videos to wind down before bed, your tone of voice is very relaxing. good job on dealing with this mayhem lol
I agree with that
Before Fontaine- I still had hope that the dendro mc wasn't a mistake, but a story related improvement; a hint that the mc's kits would get better as they journeyed through Teyvat. Not that you'd expect them to ever truly compete with limited five stars, but at least their kits wouldn't be so difficult to use, or at least worth building, but it's clear how wrong I was.
I've built most of the traveler variations, but I got so disheartened trying to build hydro mc; I had no idea, beyond leveling the talents, what I was meant to be aiming for. Then I came to youtube in hopes of trying to find inspiration... It's rare that the genshin community agrees wholeheartedly on something, but the HMC being bad is pretty much a consensus that everyone's reached.
The most frustrating thing for me, and any other traveler mains out there, is that their problems will never be addressed. They aren't going to get a dedicated support, they aren't going to get their own artifact set, and their buggy kit isn't going to get fixed.
Don't get me wrong, there are other characters that don't get that kind of attention, but I can't think of any other character that has to chase after their burst to make get the most out of their damage... except for anemo mc.
You know, I was excited when unlocking HMC as Fontaine not only gripped me in, but hydro is such a versatile and good element. Sad to say my excitement didn't last very long.
Mihoyo knows hydro is really strong so they had to make the worst possible attempt for HMC not to not make them as good as some limited 5 star.
Hydro MC really shows how good Dendro MC was!
If u take a closer look at the percentage of damage traveler did in that team, it’s kind of sad😂
To be fair we have a lot of characters that are good while ignoring helf their kit. Xiangling and hu tao come to mind, you only care about the burst for the former and the skill for the latter. Theres also a bunch of er hungry characters like yae who dont burst every rotation and they are still fine
Surprised basically no one makes any mention of Diluc's burst. Sure, it might move a bit too fast, but you can effectively achieve the same result as using Kazuha's skill to pull enemies into HMC's burst even if that's the case.
I still don't have diluc on my main account, so I couldn't test that interaction :/
@@TarZBlammo Ah I see. I'd prayge that you get him, but usually that'd mean losing the 50/50, so maybe that's not the best idea. Maybe you can get lucky on standard banner 🙏
Its very different, Diluc burst drags all the small enemies with it, so they still get damaged. Granted it is only for small enemies, it still works and the damage is Okay.
While this, even if it slow, it just keep moving away and do bad damage and nothing else.
@@drextrey I'm not comparing the 2, I'm just saying you can use Diluc's burst to get more mileage out of HMC's burst
That would probably work well for smaller enemies, But Dilucs burst usually just nukes those guys
The fact that HMC's burst can go through the geo serpent knight's shield is actually good but that's about the only good thing on it being unstoppable. Yes you can make it work but at what price.
I leveled up my HMC's talents right after Lynette's because that's what I always do. I did not go as far as to crown them, 8/8/8 is good enough for me. But then I switched it back to Dendro because I use DMC in Nilou team. No reason to waste the best MC we got so far, especially if I really like playing that team too.
Personally I think it's completely fair that we have to level up all MC's talents separately, they're different talents after all. And for anyone beyond AR45 it's just a couple of days' worth of resoures so I don't even see it as a problem.
I have also made a decent team with hydro MC which ngl focused on C6 Diona (200 em bonus) and C6 Fichel and a 1000 em Nahida(which gives 250 em with burst) which I then use hydro MC skill and average of 1500k per dewdrop I am expecting 2500k at the end of the build (her skill talent level is currently 6) id never use in abyss but it works for all bosses in non abyss content and anything else I come across
I personally love it
miss lil dolphin 🐬
I don't get why the hydro burst is so small, change the base speed to what it is with the constellation and instead make that easily double it (possibly the initial size is larger too) and that would be so much better, or hell maybe even a unique feature where it grows larger the longer its out/more damage it does/other factors would be super unique and cool! I didn't realize just how similar the skill was to the anemo mcs but can maybe let that slide due to differences in range and stuff.
lets pretend barbara wouldnt have done the same but better
the exception to this skill and ult rule are Yoimiya and Dehya because their ult is useless, both of their kits are focused entirely on the skill
Hydro mc is like king. He does not need to fight, he commands and cheers for his soldiers. :)
It is so cool to see how you use the burst tbh I kinda gave up on hydro mc and the mc in general cause there was so much to build and time to spend I could use on characters like xiangling
You know what I’d like to see. Dilucs burst drag enemies into mcs burst. Idk it just works in my mind.
I don't get why her c6 doesn't let you make it stand still. That or charge it up using the skill. Either making the radius bigger due to the bubble growing or make it pop,doing a damage equal to multiple of the hits. Something cool like that
They could also do sort of a combo where the bubble gets heavier as you charge it. Slowing it to a stand still. Then once it's fully charged you can use the travelers blast at the end of the skill to pop it.
Making it more useful based on the situation.
The slow for hydro application and the pop for raw damage vaporize.
@@chillin3831 that would be SO sick
I wish I didn't see your comment so I could remain in blissful ignorance of what could have been@@chillin3831
That three houses theme caught me off guard
I hoped they'd buff the MC to be able to walk while using the skill. Damage is fine for overworld just let me walk like a bow user would be while in aim mode.
I mean mc burst is good IF its not moving. Hope they can change this like following mobs or just explode in last duration. As if he would be better in c4 and c6 when c4 only applies shield for hydro dmg just like layla for cryo so on so fort etc and as ffor c6 it only heals your TEAM not fix the entire kit of his burst???! Like whats good about that? They really should change the burst into not moving or follow mobs and explode in last stan
triple favge is crazy
Oh definitely update once we can get c6 so far we got c4 now and I’m loving c4 with shield can’t wait to see the heals on c6 hydro travler
The mario song did get me
I was WAITING for this HELL YEAH
So sad that they stopped adding the extra elemental effect at the end of the attack chain.. Would give MC a bit of uniqueness and usefulness. Even though I know that elements that would react would be broken so we have to wait for cryo to have effect at the end of the chain.. Damn it
I really like this video. You show the best way how to play Hydro traveler. You do say he/she is not usless wich is already good for my mind. But you did say Hydro traveler is not a meta character wich i can respect. I also believe Hydro traveler is not a meta character. I also happy that you tell the way how to use the burst most effectivly. Most people will not play they because of the uniek burst. But people also offershadows the C2 effect. Good that you say something about that in this video. Love the work your doing for your travelers.
I love your videos - I’d love to see more videos about some underused characters, like heizou or Lynette
The fact that it feels like the people responsible for designing the traveler elements are stuck in the game's beta is a real disappointment. With what we know of the story quest and how the traveler's powers likely take after the elemental dragons instead of the archons, there is so much potential for their kits. Hydro traveler redesign could have been something along the lines of making a thin beam of highly pressurized water instead of the super soaker we got, and following Neuvilette's attack alignment the traveler's burst could have been a pneuma-aligned hydro sword that falls in a giant aoe (and could have foreshadowed the sword that fell in the story quest). To further incorporate the sourcewater droplet mechanic, the amount of hp restored by the droplets could factor into how strong the burst becomes - maybe absorbing the droplets and making smaller swords alongside the burst for every 2k hp restored up to a max of 5 at 10k hp restored. There is just so much potential for the traveler kits that it is genuinely disappointing how useless the main character is. Looking to the Honkai franchise, Kiana and Caelus/Stelle actually have usable and good kits despite the other much more powerful units we have. Including them on your team is not a meme strategy, they're actually good units (especially with Kiana just getting more powerful alts as the series goes on, which looks to be the same for star rail's mc).
It bothers me that they put so much effort into traveler, they're basically 5 characters in one, but they make them so weak that it doesn't matter.
It would be harmless if they were as strong as a C6 4* unit, it would still take a lot of effort to build each one, but instead they're like the games only 3* unit
Lmao I haven't activated any cons for hydro MC. I only switched to hydro for checking the cool jump dive mechanic with the traveler and did some pew pew and went back to Dendro MC.
this was a major let down in all forms, i was REALLY hoping we would finally get a healing traveler.
you have opened my eyes to test out new hydro teams with kazuha
Its so sad that you had to put so much effort to make Hydro Mc's burst do damage
Yeaaaahh... I think Kazuha carried on that team. You could pretty much replace traveler with any hydro applicator, say Barbara, and probably still do just as well.
Agreed, the kit is really bad overall. I can't really see the kit getting better with the future constellations unless they change it or they add an artifact set later that significantly buffs hmc in some manner
They gave the intern the work to do hydro mc's kid. They reskinned anemo mc, did ir clunkily and went home
This is a good video
i never even tried to play with this hydro mc. i just tried her skills, thought they sucked and never went back to hydro again.
but seeing this, i thought jean might be better than kazuha to pair with her. cuz you can hold and move monsters around with jean's E. i mean, just the really small mobs, but at least when it works, it works.
this is insane bro omg
sac sword kazuha is a delight
For the hyperbloom team he used, are there any good substitutes for ayato (they dont have to be hydro )
There are a few: alhaitham, yelan, kokomi, sucrose, etc. You mainly just want to look for characters who can either add their own personal damage, increase bloom core spawn rate, or increase the damage of the existing bloom cores
Traveler 'e' or at least the ult should've been nuvys charged attack
HEIZOU TIME ITS MY BOY
do you have Candace? She can apply hydro to polearm/claymore/sword users with her burst i think.
Imagine if the burst bubbled enemy’s like hydro abyss mage
Please make a physical Rosaria build!
could have used candace for hydro infusion or icecram boy for cryo infusion for max coping
Yo quick question. You think replacing xiangling with candace would work? So that MC can do hydro NAs?
That would remove half of the team's damage
@@neuplop idk i just thought it would be an interesting test
I saw the title and was like YAS QUEEN FLAVORBLAST POWER FUCKING WASH THEM YAS
HMC could have a much cooler kit. The stuff they've done with recent characters shows that they are still pumping out unique things and HMC feels like an afterthought. Change the burst to gravitate towards the nearest enemy and replace the 4th ascension passive with one that increases the size and damage of the burst up to a cap based on maximum HP. Aquacrest saber should function as a diet version of Neuvillette's charged attack, allowing traveler limited movement during the hold version and letting them pick up droplets while casting. This kit wouldn't be overpowered and would be a lot more fun while also synergizing well with Furina, who they gave the most versatile kit in the game. It feels like they wanted to make HMC intentionally bad and clunky for some reason.
Ahem... Lumine + Ayaka duo burst works amazing for me
As someone who's uses traveler with Geo as my main, this sucks I no longer have any expectations for the upcoming pyro traveler
Tbh, i feel hmc's burst wouldve been so much better if it acted similarly to ayaka's where it would slow to nearly a stop when hitting enemies. Then i could see it being used as a banger f2p burst support for permafreeze ayaka. Id argue that it wouldnt even need to be changed where it would get stuck on constructs then.
Although mc's icd is such a pain sometimes in general.
For freeze, icd wouldn't have been much of a problem since you don't have to reapply the element often. I just don't get why anyone thought that a burst designed like this would have been a good idea, it's extremely frustrating that hydro traveler couldn't get at least a usable kit (though it is possible that an artifact set down the line makes the character "better")
@@TarZBlammo true. I dont tend to run freeze teams so i wasn't 100% on that. So thats good to know though.
I do stand by my statement of it being so much better if it had a similar mechanic as ayakas with slowing to a near stop while on enemies
I like my lumine a lot and like her hydro better then her dendro (not jocking). still I must admit anemo is better then her hydro on every single aspect.
for starter the light attack. practicaly the same. where anemo traveler is better here, is thanks to the anemo slash at the last hit. hydro's slash are purely physical, while anemo deal at least a tiny bit more in the form of anemo damage (just like geo. too bad electro, dendro and hydro don't do this).
the skill forces the traveler in place. sure anemo can be boosted in a way that help preventing interupt, so does hydro thanks to the c4 shield. where anemo is better here, is the following. anemo can regenerate traveler by killing with the skill. hydro can sure regenerate more health with the droplet then the skill can self damage, but what use is it if traveler get killed because a massive hit was receive at half health. traveler can't regenerate from death with those droplet. only from damage.
as for the ultimate, pretty much everything was said in the video. still, there are 2 exceptions I'd like to mention. azdaha and scaramouche (only phase 1 in scaramouche's case) they are so big that they actualy can take the totality of the ultimate on it's travel.
on a side note, the hydro traveler is the only traveler with enough range with his skill to attack dvalin while he's flying. still, a bow would be preferable.
Imagine if hydro mc burst was like ayaka burst
Tbh... I somehow did not even bother to level Hydro traveler's talents... or to play him...which is kinda sad... at least I tried the previous ones a little... dendro is decent...
Honestly, id try using hydro mc if the burst auto aim the enemies
Yasss Hydro MC promised nothing and gave us what she promised. 😍😍😍
Wish they just made her burst pull enemies while moving or something.
Put Furina signature weapon MC became beast
Add slight homing to her kit and it would be much better
If they could at least let it get pulled by anemo, it would make hydro mc so much better
Meanwhile fire mc in hsr is one of the best characters
I like how every character that you don't invest 500$ or half a year farming is abject GARBAGE, *unless* teamed with specifically; Bennett, Xingqiu, Kazuha, or Xiangling.
Best build for hydro MC? Physical damage...
ok but like, Deyah, Xainking, Kazuha/Surcose, MC EM
Hydro might actually be balanced if all the Hydro characters were at the same power level as Hydro MC
Don’t worry once we get light element traveler will be broken (not copium I swear)
Awesome but why ?!?!?!?!
there is 729k record on hydro traeler on russian youtube
how is pyro mc going?
I simp Mc but mihoyo did her dirty
watching at 3am🤭
I see lumine I click.
Bro where is video it's 2 months 😮😮
HoYoverse should change Hydro Mc.
At least let him move while using skill and add some CCs to his burst.
That would make him so much better.
#JusticeforHydroMc
Considering the fact that the MC Is supposed to get stronger everytime they get an element and for us to get dendro MC and it be amazing to go to this??? Im confused. Are they regressing??
In lore maybe but in actual gameplay, not likely
i love how hydro is the most useful element in the game, yet hydro mc is bad =_=
Xiangling is free, Lynette is free, Bennet was an event reward recently. Hydro MC can make for a decent driver for internat in a no wish account, idk why people just ignore this
Just replace hydro MC with Xingqiu and that team will be 3 times better and Xingqiu is also free by doing lantern rite event every year
@@domi8499 there are people who either hate xingqiu or decides to have others characters or even constellations(xiangling)
I hate hoyoverse for this. I mean clearly the feeling is mutual.
you fool, you have only been using 66% of their kit! I, using candace, can achieve true hydro mc usability
PS-My freeze team sucks
A lot of the comments are about how bad Hydro Traveler is, and while I do think that they aren't good as well and wish they were better, I want to say first off that I'm so glad to see that I'm not the only one who had the idea to CC enemies into Hydro Traveler's Burst! The Burst is like 60% of Hydro Traveler's potential damage, and that's before taking into account that it's AoE while the Skill is mostly single-target, so I do think it would be a mistake to write it off instead of trying to maximize the hits it can get. tbh I haven't gotten the chance to test out how well Kazuha's Skill can pull enemies into Hydro Traveler Burst since I actually haven't explored Fontaine yet, and it looks like it could be a bit clunky.
There are still a few issues with teambuilding with Hydro Traveler if you want to use his Burst as primarily a damage-dealing tool the way you'd use Ayaka's. Most characters that aim to do a lot of Elemental Burst DMG but have 80 Energy Bursts (Xiangling, Beidou, Ayaka, Eula) really want to be used with a battery, so I'd expect Hydro Traveler to be the same way. This means you'd probably want to run double Hydro, otherwise the amount of ER you have to run on Hydro Traveler hurts their damage quite a bit. Xingqiu and Yelan are the obvious choices, but may make the Kazuha setup a bit more challenging because you have to weave in Normal Attacks. On the other hand, Yelan could make the setup easier by using her Skill to quickly move through the enemies and get in front of Hydro Traveler's Burst. This only leaves us with one spot left for a flex, probably Bennett although I'm open to other options on this.
Worth noting that both C6 Hydro Traveler and Xingqiu have minor healing abilities and defensive utility which might allow you to forgo a dedicated healer if you can play well.
On the gameplay side of things, I think R3/4+ Sacrificial Sword Kazuha is the way to go. You really want the Sacrificial Sword reset to occur when you're doing the combo with Hydro Traveler's Burst which means that at the start of the fight, you'd want to avoid using his Skill until you've cast Hydro Traveler's Burst. The other thing to consider is tap vs hold Skill on Hydro Traveler. Hold Skill can only be used once per rotation, which means it only gives 3.3 Hydro particles per rotation which is pretty bad. (𝘉𝘶𝘵 you can get extra Energy from their Sourcewater Droplets, 𝘣𝘶𝘵 this Energy doesn't get boosted by Energy Recharge.) Tap Skill can be used twice per rotation, but you lose out on the Sourcewater Droplets for Energy and healing at C6. There is a third option which is to use a 𝘴𝘩𝘰𝘳𝘵 hold Skill twice per rotation, which will extend the rotation by a few seconds but also generate Sourcewater Droplets.
Last think I want to mention is that Hydro Traveler is not bad against all bosses. Ruin Serpent, Setekh Wenut, and Golden Wolflord can be hit by all 14 hits from Hydro Traveler's Burst when stunned. The others won't take all the hits, but the Burst is still effective against bosses like the Aeonblight Drake, Jadeplume Terrorshroom, and surprisingly, ASIMON.
This is all armchair theorycrafting, since as I mentioned I haven't actually explored Fontaine enough to get the Constellations necessary to make this work, but once I get the chance this is all stuff I'm interested in trying out. Again, I don't think Hydro Traveler is very good, but I think there's some potential here that other people have missed. Such is the fate when you're not a popular subject of theorycrafting.
It's not hydro mc it's neuvilette mc 😂 she does the same beam thing🤣
Do i really have to get c6 of a character to play her!1!1! Waste of primos!
/s
HOYOverse employees are prob shocked that someone actually plays HMC. (How did they manage to make a Hydro character bad???)
Bro! Are you dead? 🧐😐
I get that MC's kits are supposed to be miniature-Archon kits, but good god damn does it suck.
Neuvillette gets a laser beam, we get a water gun. Ok. Makes sense. But does it root you down? Why is the cooldown so damn long? It's a time hog and doesn't even pay off.
The burst going through stuff is understandable, but couldn't it also at least entrap and pull along enemies?
Lmao mc sucks in this game. Id still play genshin if not for crappy main character
Tripple crown heavy investment just to finish abyss at 7:00 with hudro traveler? Pathetic
When the battle comes down to the final second it is way more fun anyway.