The second you hear the beginning of vanilla SF4s indestructible, you know you're going to be having a good time. Having that ost start up every time I loaded up vanilla sf4 coming home from school will forever be one of my favourite memories in life.
I just began playing Ultra Street Fighter IV tonight and could t figure out why I did just fine against opponents offline, but all my moves were delayed. I had no idea I was dealing with Delay Netcode. Now, it makes sense.
@@condescending28 SF4 is ugly and looked ugly since the beginning. The proper way to look at it is comparing SF4 to the fighting games and other games released around the same time. What happened is that the revival of SF was such a powerful event that people naturally were willing to forgive the average to ugly graphics.
If KOF XIII had KOF XI's roster I would give it to XIII. KOF XV to me is my favorite Fighting Game of All-Time. I own like 93% of every 2D Fighting Game ever made so I pretty much have played all of them.
KoF XIII is my favourite SNK fighter, alongside the technically perfect & utterly charming ‘GAROU: Mark of the Wolves’. Both of those games would make my Top 5 2D fighters of all time list.
3s is better for casuals, mostly because SF4's PC port is busted. 3s you can pick up and play and have a good experience, SF4 has massive input delay issues, screen tearing and other performance issues surface the first time you boot it up, whether it's online or offline. 3s is fully playable with no tweaks or alterations.
@@jonathangrey9365 if 3S is better for casuals why I get my ass handed to me while I play online in fightcade people just parry and KO in three moves while in SF4 I was able to get a win streak
3, and it'd subsequent updates were not on par with anything at the time. 3d fighting took over and the entirety of 2d fighters took a backseat. Nobody cared when 3 hit, second impact and third strike.
@@jonathangrey9365On the X Box 360 Ultra Street Fighter 4 plays absolutely fine online & the online play has been great since vanilla SFIV was released on the 360.
Street Fighter Alpha 3 will always be my favorite Street Fighter game but III none of those games are better than the alpha series in my humble opinion but anyway I definitely prefer Street Fighter IV over III especially it was a long awaited return to the fighting game scene if IV didn't come we probably wouldn't have had MK9 I think Tekken 6 came out later to.
The vanilla SF4 era, despite bringing fighting games back to mainstream, is a giant mess of an era. The majority of the FGC at the time shouted that "2d graphics or no deal" backlash, which is so meaningless and obnoxious to be honest, that was the time with creative freedom was in danger, and i'm all for creative freedom, it should never be sacrificed to appease people like them.
@@MrMonsterKen SF4 and MvC3 eventually shut down those reactions, that to totally fair were natural for an audience stuck playing extremely well made 2d graphics. In the 90s Capcom was at the top of 2d graphics standards. But in the change to 3d they were notably below TK, SC and MK, reflecting Capcom's different approach, not being so serious about fgs anymore.
I slightly like the feeling of gameplay more in 3rd Strike than in VI but there isn't a lot of Characters I like to play as in 3rd Strike. Alpha 3 is still the best SF game. But I have 7 other KOF Games over any SF. Love both franchise though.
SFA3 kept gaining updates until the 2000s, but it was mostly non arcade releases. SF3 needed the same. But Capcom acted like they wanted to forget SF3, as if it was ashamed of it. Just like they ended cps3 development so early, starting in 96 and ending in 99 already. Now around the late 2000s the general perception of SF3 (or just Third Strike) had changed a lot, but it was too late for Capcom to care about going back to SF3 as SF4 was being made.
I love both, but I always found it more fun to try out different characters in 3S than in SF4, though I'm not sure exactly why... I'll happily mess about with Necro in 3S - a character way outside my lizard-brain wheelhouse of Makotos and Hondas - but can't get on with 80% of the SF4 cast even where I'd enjoyed them in previous games.
hello final authority here. I gotta say it is really the netcode experience that made my decision for me. so 3rd strike it was. so much easier to play hands down.
The games are different. A couple thoughts- I think it could possibly be argued that 3rd Strike isn't a Street Fighter game. In terms of top level play, I'm told 3S is actually restricting since the meta is rather well established. It mid-level play where the excitement comes. I personally think SFIV allows for more freedom at top level play. Ultimate, I enjoy both games, and find it difficult to see them as in competition with each other.
You two missed a major point in all of this: Success doesn't = better. What competition did SF4 have? Because SFIII had to contend with the Alpha games, Marvel games, CVS2, Darkstalkers, etc. - & that's just in-house! Remember, this was when Tekken, Soul Calibur, & Mortal Kombat were at their best. Even SNK was doing work with KoF, SamSho, Last Blade, Garou:MotW, Fatal etc. Dead or Alive & Virtua Fighter were even in the mix - & the list goes on. Then nothing good for half a decade. Of course SF4 found success after the fighting game drought of the mid 00s! Any Street Fighter would've succeeded in that barren wasteland. ...well, maybe not SF1.
SFIV will always be great to me by virtue of how many playstyles can thrive in that game. And that's not just an SF comparison but for fighting games as a whole. There are characters that all they want to do is chuck plasma and their just as viable as the guy that wants to be in your face all the time. Most fighting games really prefer one playstyle over another, 4 doesn't.
Sf3 is superior but is too much a relic now to appeal to the younger generation. SF4 was mediocre by comparison but came at a time when people were starving for a fighting game. Usf4 also has the drawback of being the ugliest in the series by far.
eh I think sf 3 is the best sf game even minus the evo 37, and I really do like sf 4, but sf 3 has everything. Amazing timeless sprite work, and great music. It has some bad balancing and weird characters, but the gameplay makes up for that.
It's insane how heated Catalyst is getting when you guys are talking about Online play and the expectation. He cannot let it go. The point Veloc is making is that people DIDNT CARE as much if the online was great or not. That's not what hes saying dude. He's just saying that people ENJOYED playing it so much and that the experience was well received. Stop with this crap of "i talked to idom Capcom Cup champion who said Fiber connection" blah blah blah That's not his point at all. His point is is that we all LOVED it and didnt care how good or bad it was. People were just THRILLED to play a NEW SF game online in 2008 and it played good enough for us at that time.
SF3 was made relevant solely by the community, and only in the 2000s thanks to high level competition events in the U.S and Japan. But it was a huge and traumatising failure for Capcom. So that was a specific "fgc phenomenon". Outside the fgc bubble it was a very problematic title. That is incomparable to SF4's status and general public impact, that did much more than pleasing the hardcore fgc veterans.
I remember I had pre ordered 3rd strike online edition and I loved it I had st4 super, loved it played the shit out of it although I found my self absolutely loving 3rd strike and akuma other than sf5 he's closest to that akuma and he was just bad ass in sf3 he was so well balanced in third strike
The critque of SF4's online is insanely overblown, the netcode is better than many games that have roll back.. not to mention the lobby and replay functionality it had lol. I'm sorry but to call it "Horrible, destructively bad" is craaaaazy, sounds like this guy took those 1 bar red connections as a challenge and lost 😂 I still play USF4 on PC, I know exactly how it plays. I wouldn't play a game this long online if it didn't have good netcode. Also when it comes to Evo moments I'd say SF4 collectively overtakes moment 37, there were too many hype matches to count and no one will forget Tokido's Akuma pose.
Outside of urien, yun, ibuki, Dudley and Alex everyone else was a dud in sf3….juri, hakan, gouken, El Fuerte , Seth, Rufus and Abel were picked constantly in sf4.
After all SF3 ruined the franchise in the 90s because of the roster. SF was the only famous veteran franchise killed and buried for almost 10 years. KOF and MK never stopped (even if MK stopped being 2d), Samsho returned for a while in the 2000s, and all 3d fgs from the 90s were doing well in that time. The fact that happened to the biggest fg franchise was a big deal. The devs really messed up some ideas to cause that disaster.
Def. Street Fighter IV imo. The way 3rd Strike plays is just strays too far from the fun of Street Fighter and becomes something else that isn't too great. A lot of the characters just end up feeling redundant and the way jumping instantly presents you with a two way mix up is just bad game design. IV on the other hand mostly stays within that lane of every character having their own strong and consistent way of controlling the ground and jumping in being very risky but rewarding. All the additional mechanics are interesting but don't mess up with that formula a whole lot. Great game.
Both games truly suck. And sfvce is better. Sorry I have to be that guy. But let me keep it a buck (final version of sfvce): Sfvce = * best and most interesting new characters (G., Menat, Zeku, Falke, FANG, Abigail, Rashid, etc.) * literally, imo, has the best roster sf has ever seen. Yes, better than usf4 overall! Sfvce has THE MOST number of new character ever added to a SF game. They took risk adding a ton of new characters as dlc, which is respectable feat. The old characters that came back in the game felt NEW AND REFRESHING (poison, ibuki, dhalsim, vega, cody, etc.) * game literally is great for casuals because there's modes on launch that try to teach you how to play the game. And at a very basic level sfvce is very sf and feels like a sf game. * has the 2nd best netcode in the series. 3rd strike does have the best overall netcode * sfvce's system mechanics are fun. Simple to learn and use. Rewarding at high level. Fun to watch at high level (vtrigger animations look cool). Vtrigger and vskills add utility to complement players playstyles and character kits (drives me nuts when people say two players play the same character the same where that is ABSOLUTELY FURTHEST FROM THE TRUTH by game design alone). And all of this, is done better...imo, than 3rd strike. * finally sfvce's game balance is better than ANY CAPCOM FIGHTING GAME OUT RIGHT NOW. Free. Sfvce is the best sf game hands down. Its better than sf6 too. But thats a conversation for another day lol
I disagree with 3rd strike, its one of my favorite street fighters if not my biggest favorite. However, the roster, soundtrack, newcomers and gameplay ideas in 5 were WAY better than in 4, the anti-sfv protesting is just ridiculous to be honest, its not perfect, but its one of the best SF games ever made, hands down, even after 6 comes out, my support for an underdog of a fighting game will never wane for years to come. SF4 as well as the goofy likes of El Fuerte, Rufus, and Hakan has not aged very well, whereas the likes of Menat, Laura, Zeku, FANG, will still be memorable because of the uniqueness they bring to SF. You have my respect with your pro-sfv support, it deserves a lot more respect.
@@crimsonswagger6945 That's good, then. Enjoy. I love all of street fighter even though some installments don't deserve too much credit because it don't feel right or anything.
from a generaL audiance and commercial stand point its 4. from a fan fgc or sf perspective its obiously 3. Theirs a reason i yell THUUURRDD STRIKKEEEE and not FADC when i hear a DING. SF3 is to tight.
Street fighter 3 is not one of the most better Street Fighter games ever been made but it is First Street Fighter to have its new storyline and not bring back sf2 roaster. Only for the exceptions of Ryu and Ken
I love Street Fighter III all 3 versions so much, especially third strike, I could play that game over and over and over again and never get bored. The only negative gripe that I have with Street Fighter III is that my two favorite characters that I use were not in it, both Guile & Guy 😔. Now Street Fighter IV is very fun to play and has so many great characters in it, including my two favorite characters that I use, both Guile and Guy 😄✊🏼. The arcade mode alone in Street Fighter IV is so damn good because they literally have animated cutscenes for every character, and to make Street Fighter IV even more better in my opinion is being able to jump into many versus fights online. I have so many memories playing Street Fighter IV online and having great battles with so many good Street Fighter players. The only negatives I have with Street Fighter IV is it’s soundtrack, and animation style of the fighters and whole cartoonish vibe of the entire gameplay. I totally prefer the whole aesthetic of Street Fighter III from it’s beautiful looking animation, it’s amazing soundtrack, great gameplay and the main villain of course.
If it was up to me, I would play 3rd strike over 4 anyday, 4 hasn't aged very well and it never will, hence why i'm more of a stronger supporter of 5, despite all that it has been through. Production values and personality matters to me. But seriously, 3S over 4.
@@cazualgamer2499 At the time I was falling off fighting games. If I remember correctly I played tekken 6(meh)and Kof 13. 13 was great but the online sucked. That was around 2012 I think. The game that really reignited my passion for fighting games was tekken 7.
@@jiggs677 Here are my thoughts. Attacks lack impact, downgrade in art style and Awful online make street fighter 4 a ok game for me. Street fighter 4 was not a bad game but there is nothing about it that makes me go back to it.
The amount of misinformation is laughable. SF3 has just as many option selects and 1 frame links as SF4. Parry and the tight cancel windows make SF3 far more technical. That doesn't even take into account other tech like charge partioning. Even SFA and SF2 have 1 frame links, option selects, and tiny cancel windows. A3 crouch cancels lead to infinites and are required for high level play. Elf takes higher execution, is less robbery than any SF5 character, and FADC shuts down his vortex. Crying about Elf just shows their lack of knowledge.
People will seriously bitch about el fuerte winning after 15 interactions then in the next breath have no issue with evil ryu or SFV day 1 balrog winning in two interactions. There is no logic behind it, they just see character on the ground = fair character in the air = unfair
@dingus dangus FADC forward pretty much shuts down 2 of 3 of Elf's mixup options. Meanwhile SF5 Balrog, you have no choice but hold every dash punch despite it being -4.
The second you hear the beginning of vanilla SF4s indestructible, you know you're going to be having a good time.
Having that ost start up every time I loaded up vanilla sf4 coming home from school will forever be one of my favourite memories in life.
I just began playing Ultra Street Fighter IV tonight and could t figure out why I did just fine against opponents offline, but all my moves were delayed. I had no idea I was dealing with Delay Netcode. Now, it makes sense.
Delay based netcode ruins lives
i suck at both fadc and parry but at least i can savor the banquet that is 3rd strike's animations and art style. i can't say the same for sf4
VI didn't really age well visually.
@@condescending28 SF4 is ugly and looked ugly since the beginning. The proper way to look at it is comparing SF4 to the fighting games and other games released around the same time. What happened is that the revival of SF was such a powerful event that people naturally were willing to forgive the average to ugly graphics.
I agree SF3 aged great, SF4, not so much
Maybe a KoF XIII vs KoF XV would be nice.
If KOF XIII had KOF XI's roster I would give it to XIII. KOF XV to me is my favorite Fighting Game of All-Time. I own like 93% of every 2D Fighting Game ever made so I pretty much have played all of them.
KoF XIII is my favourite SNK fighter, alongside the technically perfect & utterly charming ‘GAROU: Mark of the Wolves’. Both of those games would make my Top 5 2D fighters of all time list.
This man sat here with a straight face and said SF3 had more casual appeal 😐😊
3s is better for casuals, mostly because SF4's PC port is busted. 3s you can pick up and play and have a good experience, SF4 has massive input delay issues, screen tearing and other performance issues surface the first time you boot it up, whether it's online or offline. 3s is fully playable with no tweaks or alterations.
@@jonathangrey9365 if 3S is better for casuals why I get my ass handed to me while I play online in fightcade people just parry and KO in three moves while in SF4 I was able to get a win streak
3, and it'd subsequent updates were not on par with anything at the time. 3d fighting took over and the entirety of 2d fighters took a backseat. Nobody cared when 3 hit, second impact and third strike.
Yes he is a well known idiot
@@jonathangrey9365On the X Box 360 Ultra Street Fighter 4 plays absolutely fine online & the online play has been great since vanilla SFIV was released on the 360.
Street Fighter Alpha 3 will always be my favorite Street Fighter game but III none of those games are better than the alpha series in my humble opinion but anyway I definitely prefer Street Fighter IV over III especially it was a long awaited return to the fighting game scene if IV didn't come we probably wouldn't have had MK9 I think Tekken 6 came out later to.
As a nerd who grew up at the arcades with sf2, alpha, ex, vs series and sf3... I'd do anything to re-live the SF4 era 2008-2013! (fk ultra)
The vanilla SF4 era, despite bringing fighting games back to mainstream, is a giant mess of an era. The majority of the FGC at the time shouted that "2d graphics or no deal" backlash, which is so meaningless and obnoxious to be honest, that was the time with creative freedom was in danger, and i'm all for creative freedom, it should never be sacrificed to appease people like them.
@@MrMonsterKen SF4 and MvC3 eventually shut down those reactions, that to totally fair were natural for an audience stuck playing extremely well made 2d graphics. In the 90s Capcom was at the top of 2d graphics standards. But in the change to 3d they were notably below TK, SC and MK, reflecting Capcom's different approach, not being so serious about fgs anymore.
I slightly like the feeling of gameplay more in 3rd Strike than in VI but there isn't a lot of Characters I like to play as in 3rd Strike. Alpha 3 is still the best SF game. But I have 7 other KOF Games over any SF. Love both franchise though.
I like the content you guys put up. Great job guys
I still say we need an "Ultra Street fighter 3" with balance changes and the same things that 3rd strike online had.
SFA3 kept gaining updates until the 2000s, but it was mostly non arcade releases. SF3 needed the same. But Capcom acted like they wanted to forget SF3, as if it was ashamed of it. Just like they ended cps3 development so early, starting in 96 and ending in 99 already.
Now around the late 2000s the general perception of SF3 (or just Third Strike) had changed a lot, but it was too late for Capcom to care about going back to SF3 as SF4 was being made.
@@carlosaugusto9821 thats actually all correct... and sad
I love both, but I always found it more fun to try out different characters in 3S than in SF4, though I'm not sure exactly why...
I'll happily mess about with Necro in 3S - a character way outside my lizard-brain wheelhouse of Makotos and Hondas - but can't get on with 80% of the SF4 cast even where I'd enjoyed them in previous games.
hello final authority here. I gotta say it is really the netcode experience that made my decision for me. so 3rd strike it was. so much easier to play hands down.
If your answer isn't 3rd Strike, then it's the wrong answer.
SF4 is the best FG ever made IMO. 3S is still legendary but nothing tops SF4.
Parrying was a huge appeal to casuals. Everyone wants to learn parrying, but everyone doesn't know that it's not always good to parry
I was one of those casuals.
And yet Capcom made easy mode SF5 to appeal to casuals.
@@Demon_Curse Shhh, don't say that at loud...
Street fighter 4 has Cammy. Its better. Next
Hello demon curse
IV is just boring and clunky, im sorry, it is.
I see your Cammy, and raise you with Sean.
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The games are different.
A couple thoughts-
I think it could possibly be argued that 3rd Strike isn't a Street Fighter game.
In terms of top level play, I'm told 3S is actually restricting since the meta is rather well established. It mid-level play where the excitement comes.
I personally think SFIV allows for more freedom at top level play.
Ultimate, I enjoy both games, and find it difficult to see them as in competition with each other.
Great analysis! I prefer Third Strike for the same reasons you mentioned. Keep up the great work!
Awesome, thank you!
What's the best version of 3rd Strike between Dreamcast, PS2, & PS3 that's closest to Arcade Perfect?
You two missed a major point in all of this: Success doesn't = better. What competition did SF4 have?
Because SFIII had to contend with the Alpha games, Marvel games, CVS2, Darkstalkers, etc. - & that's just in-house! Remember, this was when Tekken, Soul Calibur, & Mortal Kombat were at their best. Even SNK was doing work with KoF, SamSho, Last Blade, Garou:MotW, Fatal etc. Dead or Alive & Virtua Fighter were even in the mix - & the list goes on. Then nothing good for half a decade. Of course SF4 found success after the fighting game drought of the mid 00s! Any Street Fighter would've succeeded in that barren wasteland. ...well, maybe not SF1.
SFIV will always be great to me by virtue of how many playstyles can thrive in that game. And that's not just an SF comparison but for fighting games as a whole. There are characters that all they want to do is chuck plasma and their just as viable as the guy that wants to be in your face all the time. Most fighting games really prefer one playstyle over another, 4 doesn't.
Which is better? Whichever one you like the best, that's an easy question
Sf3 is superior but is too much a relic now to appeal to the younger generation. SF4 was mediocre by comparison but came at a time when people were starving for a fighting game. Usf4 also has the drawback of being the ugliest in the series by far.
I find both SF4 and SFV to be ugly and aesthetically unappealing.
eh I think sf 3 is the best sf game even minus the evo 37, and I really do like sf 4, but sf 3 has everything. Amazing timeless sprite work, and great music. It has some bad balancing and weird characters, but the gameplay makes up for that.
It's insane how heated Catalyst is getting when you guys are talking about Online play and the expectation. He cannot let it go.
The point Veloc is making is that people DIDNT CARE as much if the online was great or not. That's not what hes saying dude. He's just saying that people ENJOYED playing it so much and that the experience was well received.
Stop with this crap of "i talked to idom Capcom Cup champion who said Fiber connection" blah blah blah
That's not his point at all.
His point is is that we all LOVED it and didnt care how good or bad it was. People were just THRILLED to play a NEW SF game online in 2008 and it played good enough for us at that time.
4 is the Bret Hart of the series
Elaborate! I love the wrestling comparison, haha
@@EventHubs the best there is the best there was and the best there ever will be 😄🍻
So difficult to choose between those two version that are for me the best street fighters games.
SF4; still hoping for a Switch port at some point.
Street Fighter 4 is the finest videogame ever made.
Literally is.
I would say Killer instinct is everything a fighting game should be and more amd doesn't get it's recognition for it
Seriously out of touch
@@SPACECOWBOY705 Well, the graphics are awful
Kof13.
3rd Strike hands down.
SF3 is a really fun game... but SF4 is moreso :P
I would 100% be playing sfiv rightnow if there was a rollback option. Instead its ST and 3S for me.
SF3 was made relevant solely by the community, and only in the 2000s thanks to high level competition events in the U.S and Japan. But it was a huge and traumatising failure for Capcom. So that was a specific "fgc phenomenon". Outside the fgc bubble it was a very problematic title. That is incomparable to SF4's status and general public impact, that did much more than pleasing the hardcore fgc veterans.
SF4
Sf4 is the best street fighter
I remember I had pre ordered 3rd strike online edition and I loved it I had st4 super, loved it played the shit out of it although I found my self absolutely loving 3rd strike and akuma other than sf5 he's closest to that akuma and he was just bad ass in sf3 he was so well balanced in third strike
The critque of SF4's online is insanely overblown, the netcode is better than many games that have roll back.. not to mention the lobby and replay functionality it had lol.
I'm sorry but to call it "Horrible, destructively bad" is craaaaazy, sounds like this guy took those 1 bar red connections as a challenge and lost 😂
I still play USF4 on PC, I know exactly how it plays. I wouldn't play a game this long online if it didn't have good netcode.
Also when it comes to Evo moments I'd say SF4 collectively overtakes moment 37, there were too many hype matches to count and no one will forget Tokido's Akuma pose.
Dang, I love El Fuerte, Rufus and Hakan
SF3 is the better looking game. SF4 is more fun to play and watch high level matches.
Outside of urien, yun, ibuki, Dudley and Alex everyone else was a dud in sf3….juri, hakan, gouken, El Fuerte , Seth, Rufus and Abel were picked constantly in sf4.
After all SF3 ruined the franchise in the 90s because of the roster. SF was the only famous veteran franchise killed and buried for almost 10 years. KOF and MK never stopped (even if MK stopped being 2d), Samsho returned for a while in the 2000s, and all 3d fgs from the 90s were doing well in that time. The fact that happened to the biggest fg franchise was a big deal. The devs really messed up some ideas to cause that disaster.
Def. Street Fighter IV imo. The way 3rd Strike plays is just strays too far from the fun of Street Fighter and becomes something else that isn't too great. A lot of the characters just end up feeling redundant and the way jumping instantly presents you with a two way mix up is just bad game design. IV on the other hand mostly stays within that lane of every character having their own strong and consistent way of controlling the ground and jumping in being very risky but rewarding. All the additional mechanics are interesting but don't mess up with that formula a whole lot. Great game.
Now can we get SF5 vs Third strike vs SF4
Please, 5 is not anywhere near the best sf game. I'd say it's near the top for worst.
@@sleazyfellow The worst, huh? LMAO, It's NOT EVEN CLOSE.
Both games truly suck. And sfvce is better.
Sorry I have to be that guy. But let me keep it a buck (final version of sfvce):
Sfvce =
* best and most interesting new characters (G., Menat, Zeku, Falke, FANG, Abigail, Rashid, etc.)
* literally, imo, has the best roster sf has ever seen. Yes, better than usf4 overall! Sfvce has THE MOST number of new character ever added to a SF game. They took risk adding a ton of new characters as dlc, which is respectable feat. The old characters that came back in the game felt NEW AND REFRESHING (poison, ibuki, dhalsim, vega, cody, etc.)
* game literally is great for casuals because there's modes on launch that try to teach you how to play the game. And at a very basic level sfvce is very sf and feels like a sf game.
* has the 2nd best netcode in the series. 3rd strike does have the best overall netcode
* sfvce's system mechanics are fun. Simple to learn and use. Rewarding at high level. Fun to watch at high level (vtrigger animations look cool). Vtrigger and vskills add utility to complement players playstyles and character kits (drives me nuts when people say two players play the same character the same where that is ABSOLUTELY FURTHEST FROM THE TRUTH by game design alone). And all of this, is done better...imo, than 3rd strike.
* finally sfvce's game balance is better than ANY CAPCOM FIGHTING GAME OUT RIGHT NOW. Free.
Sfvce is the best sf game hands down. Its better than sf6 too. But thats a conversation for another day lol
I disagree with 3rd strike, its one of my favorite street fighters if not my biggest favorite. However, the roster, soundtrack, newcomers and gameplay ideas in 5 were WAY better than in 4, the anti-sfv protesting is just ridiculous to be honest, its not perfect, but its one of the best SF games ever made, hands down, even after 6 comes out, my support for an underdog of a fighting game will never wane for years to come. SF4 as well as the goofy likes of El Fuerte, Rufus, and Hakan has not aged very well, whereas the likes of Menat, Laura, Zeku, FANG, will still be memorable because of the uniqueness they bring to SF. You have my respect with your pro-sfv support, it deserves a lot more respect.
@master ken well said and i respect it.
@@crimsonswagger6945 That's good, then. Enjoy. I love all of street fighter even though some installments don't deserve too much credit because it don't feel right or anything.
from a generaL audiance and commercial stand point its 4. from a fan fgc or sf perspective its obiously 3. Theirs a reason i yell THUUURRDD STRIKKEEEE and not FADC when i hear a DING. SF3 is to tight.
Theres plenty of people who appreciate 3s but enjoy playing 4 more. 2 phenomal games from capcom idk which I prefer.
SF3rdS is an extremely hard game....No matter how good the game is I believe it should be at least playable, that game is just not for everyone
Street Fighter 3 is the better game. Street Fighter 4 is the more important game because it revived the scene.
Oro was sleeped on
Street fighter 3 is not one of the most better Street Fighter games ever been made but it is First Street Fighter to have its new storyline and not bring back sf2 roaster. Only for the exceptions of Ryu and Ken
Sf will never make a better games than SF4ultra. It reached peak
I love Street Fighter III all 3 versions so much, especially third strike, I could play that game over and over and over again and never get bored.
The only negative gripe that I have with Street Fighter III is that my two favorite characters that I use were not in it, both Guile & Guy 😔.
Now Street Fighter IV is very fun to play and has so many great characters in it, including my two favorite characters that I use, both Guile and Guy 😄✊🏼.
The arcade mode alone in Street Fighter IV is so damn good because they literally have animated cutscenes for every character, and to make Street Fighter IV even more better in my opinion is being able to jump into many versus fights online.
I have so many memories playing Street Fighter IV online and having great battles with so many good Street Fighter players.
The only negatives I have with Street Fighter IV is it’s soundtrack, and animation style of the fighters and whole cartoonish vibe of the entire gameplay.
I totally prefer the whole aesthetic of Street Fighter III from it’s beautiful looking animation, it’s amazing soundtrack, great gameplay and the main villain of course.
3rd strike for me...I'm old school
If it was up to me, I would play 3rd strike over 4 anyday, 4 hasn't aged very well and it never will, hence why i'm more of a stronger supporter of 5, despite all that it has been through. Production values and personality matters to me. But seriously, 3S over 4.
3rd Strike for me, I don't care for SF modern games. Plus SF3 is prettier
I prefer USF4. The roster is much better.
Sf4
I love both games but Street Fighter 4 is Better.
Who else team sf3
Me
For me SF4 takes the win.
SFIV. SFIII isn't even the best SF game. Daigo made it popular so now very small vocal minority thinks it's the best fighting game ever.
Street fighter 3rd strike. Street fighter 4 sucks…sorry I never got on the hype train.
What fighting game did you play over SF4?
Explain why
@@cazualgamer2499 At the time I was falling off fighting games. If I remember correctly I played tekken 6(meh)and Kof 13. 13 was great but the online sucked. That was around 2012 I think. The game that really reignited my passion for fighting games was tekken 7.
@@pedroroma933 wasn't just a hype train tho. 4 was an extremely solid video game.
@@jiggs677 Here are my thoughts. Attacks lack impact, downgrade in art style and Awful online make street fighter 4 a ok game for me. Street fighter 4 was not a bad game but there is nothing about it that makes me go back to it.
The amount of misinformation is laughable. SF3 has just as many option selects and 1 frame links as SF4. Parry and the tight cancel windows make SF3 far more technical. That doesn't even take into account other tech like charge partioning.
Even SFA and SF2 have 1 frame links, option selects, and tiny cancel windows. A3 crouch cancels lead to infinites and are required for high level play.
Elf takes higher execution, is less robbery than any SF5 character, and FADC shuts down his vortex. Crying about Elf just shows their lack of knowledge.
People will seriously bitch about el fuerte winning after 15 interactions then in the next breath have no issue with evil ryu or SFV day 1 balrog winning in two interactions. There is no logic behind it, they just see character on the ground = fair character in the air = unfair
@dingus dangus FADC forward pretty much shuts down 2 of 3 of Elf's mixup options. Meanwhile SF5 Balrog, you have no choice but hold every dash punch despite it being -4.
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SF4