Thanks for the shoutout, Will! Perhaps most astounding, when I played RE(PLANT)ATION, I was a lowly sub-1100 rated player. More than 10 years later, I’m still sub-1500 and haven’t replicated or surpassed that 12-lettter find in a tourney game.
Avery Mojica (RIP) once bingoed on me in an online game with PRENOMINATES as a 12 through I believe 3 (!) sets of disconnected tiles. I can probably still find it on ISC
In 1991, in a competitive home game between me and my friend who were both tournament-level players, he triple-tripled with "CONGRESS" starting on 1A, and on the very next play, I extended with "CONGRESSPER(S)O(N)S" starting on 1I. That was over 30 years ago, and I still have never played any word more than 9 letters since then.
I turned my friend's STAnDING into UNDERSTAnDINGLy for a 203-point 15-letter bingo. It was on Scrabble Go - competitive, but not tournament play - and whenever the preserved screenshot crops up on FB memories I like to remind him of it. This is a great video - fun to try to find them as you narrate. I think VAINGLORYING is probably the toughest to spot!
Something I found interesting is that because I knew I was looking for super long extension plays, a lot of these weren't that difficult to find. Finding these in a real game is a whole different beast though, you never consider that you could in a one-in-a-million situation in the moment!
i think theres also a bias with which plays are made. Even (most) top pros cant memorize every 11-letter word and focus on the more common 7- and 8-letter bingos, so the 11-letter ones that actually happen, are because those words are pretty common. Impressive nonetheless, i cant say i could figure out most of them
There's some brilliant plays on that 11 letter bingo list but there's only one word that I've never heard of, and of course it's Nigel's "pernoctated". Proud to say I found astrobiology pretty quickly, though of course it's much easier if you know you're looking for a 12-letter word. Also I'm a big space nerd.
"Vainglorying" is absolutely incredible. My spellchecker doesn't believe it's a word. Very few dictionaries include the verb sense of "vainglory," pretty much just the OED form my research. It must have come from the Collins Corpus, so I guess "vainglorying" is in the CSW, and he must have remembered the 9-letter word "vainglory" as a noun _and a verb_ and saw the extension on board.
It is indeed Collins-only. I once attempted UNTEAR(FULL)Y through my opponent's FULL, not knowing for sure if it was good - it was challenged and it wasn't, sadly. Maybe Wellington just went for it not knowing for sure...
@@wanderer15 It's not only Collins-only, it isn't even present in the Collins dictionary, just their gajillion-world English corpus. Back before official word lists were made for longer words, this probably wouldn't be legal, since consulting the actual dictionary would show "vainglory" only as a noun.
I dropped IRONATE on my mom once. Not a deliberate phony on my part; we both forgot about the word "ferrous". She vacillated then didn't challenge. Boom
Earlier this evening, a bunch of us played duplicate Scrabble online, with Chris Hawkins of the UK handling all the admin work. On move 20, the rack was AINORTT, and two players found (PENE)TRATION! Chris mentioned that you had just released a video about long words! What a coincidence!
The same day that this video was uploaded, during an online Duplicate Scrabble game that I was hosting for eleven players, two of the players (Ellie Mackin and Nicolas Moyart) spotted an eleven letter bonus from the rack AINORTT, extending PENE to make PENETRATION for 65!!
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The incredible thing about (P)ERNOCTA(TED) is that it doesn't just extend a 4 letter word, it weaves together two separate pieces. I'd be interested to see more examples of high-scoring plays like this - bingos or not - that spanned 2+ existing segments. I see SISTER(H)O(ODS) and (EL)ECTROCU(TE) on the list at 2:43 for instance.
Totally agree re: the disconnected nature of the play. Sometimes it’s tough to dig up those old board positions - hopefully now when someone makes a play like this, they’ll send me the position immediately so I can make a video about it :)
So many beautiful finds, but my MVP (Nigel aside), goes to Ken Clark for UNIM(MUNI)ZED. These are all amazing feats, but this play really seals the deal for me. Well played, Mr. Clark.
Even among the longest plays, Nigel's PERNOCTATED still stands out. Every other 11 and 12 letter play from tournament games, and all but two of those from club games, were extending a 4 or 5 letter word already on the board, which made them a lot easier to spot. Even as an amateur player I'm pretty sure that, with CITY on the board and an inviting space in front of it, I could have found ELECTRICITY, and I might have stood a chance of getting one or two of the others too. But spotting a 3 letter word in one position and a single letter elsewhere, and figuring that there's an 11 letter word which connects them, is something else completely. (EL)ECTROCU(TE) and SISTER(H)O(ODS) are the only other players linking two previously unconnected spots. Also, almost all the others are fairly common words which the player almost certainly knew anyway, rather than learning them specifically for Scrabble purposes (except possibly VAINGLORYING and ASTROGEOLOGISTS). PERNOCTATED is really the only one which makes you think "If he knows that, he must have learned all the 11 letter words just for the tiny chance that he might one day be able to play one."
I've set myself up for some long bingos in online games, but they were mostly played against much weaker opponents. Some of the easier setup words are RATIONS and CATIONS, which can make 14LWs like DEMONSTRATIONS, and 100s of words endings in -IFICATIONS. I've also tried -LOGICAL, but the things that go in front of it are too limited and hard to fish. The longest non-setup word I remember playing was ESCHATOLOGY through my opponent's CHAT. I didn't even expect it to be a real word, since it's part of the name of a video game in Japanese (Atelier Escha & Logy; "and" is "to" in Japanese), and they are well-known for making up fake English words - e.g., things like "revengeance" and "heartful" are not real words! Also, online games are quite different from over-the-board games, since you can try words on the board without revealing your tiles to your opponent. And if you play with the void challenge rule, you can literally throw everything at it to see what sticks.
Hey, Will! I remember going for a tournament last month in Ibadan, Nigeria and I met (who I believe to be) the head of Scrabble in Ibadan(that was my first outside-of-university tournament, so I don't know many people), and the man asked us all for our best ever plays, before revealing an opponent once played him a triple-triple RAT(I)ONAL, before he hit back with the stunning (RATIONAL)IZATION. I'd love to know if you could verify and if possibly make a video about this, as you know far more top Nigerian Scrabblers than me, judging from your recent video about Nigeria. Thanks
4:25 yes you knew I'd be curious, but did you think I'd be so curious to ask to see some of those AI-vs-AI games where there was a 13+ letter bingo? Those numbers suggest that they happened multiple times (five 15-letter bingos? We have to see those, right?)
An average of 5 per game per player - in the full data set, there were exactly 10 fifteen-letter plays. I should definitely get my hands on those board positions!
Coming back to this after an idea I had, and remembering a couple people joking about how they'd be the first to have a 16 letter bingo. While obviously this wouldn't be possible... in english! I noticed that spanish scrabble has ch, ll, and rr tiles. Theoretically, a 16 letter bingo could be possible in spanish scrabble (or even more if there's a 17 letter word with like ll AND rr in it?), although it would still be only 15 tiles. Only 16 letter spanish word I could find with ll in it is "maravillosamente". I'm sure there's at least a couple more. Thanks for the videos Will.
While there haven't been any 13+ letter bingos in a tournament, I wonder if that's still true when you consider non-bingo plays. Similarly, I'm curious how many 11 and 12 letter non-bingo plays have been made in tournaments. To this end, it would actually be really interesting to see a breakdown of the relative frequency plays of all word lengths have, perhaps with each length also separated out depending on if the word was made with extensions, hooks, and crosses, etc.
There's definitely more examples of 13+ letter plays that were not bingos, especially ones that players built up over a couple turns. Maybe another video topic sometime...
Fantastic video. Thanks Will. Another memorable move by Sherwin Rodrigues in a game in 2019 was an incredible 10- letter play. His rack was ADEELST. Not sure if there was a place for the obvious bingos coz he didn't go for either. He spotted I-DEAL-I-T-I-ES through 3 disconnected 'I's. Genius stuff👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Two things: 1) I can't help but notice that Nigel Richards' (P)ERNOCTA(TED) is the only disconnected 11 or 12-letter bingo played in a tournament game. The rest were mere extensions. Another testament to Nigel Richards' inhuman Scrabble skill. 2) Have there ever been any 13-15 letter non-bingos plays in tournament or club games?
1) Absolutely true. I'd also say that PERNOCTATED is perhaps the most obscure word on the list as well. 2) Definitely! I didn't touch on them here, but there's many of these out there that I could see discussing in a future video.
I'm so proud of myself that I managed to spot both ELECTRICITY and TRANQUILISED. I can't say for sure I'd have found either of those since I have the advantage of knowing an 11/12 is about to be played, but still. I've actually played an 11 in a WWF game, I extended the word SHED to REPLENISHED. I'm pretty sure I'll never do something like that again.
Nigel still did something pretty extraodinary as all of the other 11 letter words are ones that people have heard of/use in their daily lives, while a word like pernoctated is something so archaic that few would know the meaning of.
I got down the 13 letter non-bingo of (HOSPITAL)ITIES in a tournament on woogles one time. Probably wasn't my best play but I had played HOSPITAL as a bingo a turn or two earlier and the opportunity to play a 13 letter word doesn't happen all that often
Great video Will! I love your new style of videos, but I also miss your longer form content, specifically the bonus round series. Maybe you could create a second channel where you upload those more raw types of videos? Just a thought, keep it up!
I have a friend who claims to have played (CHIC)KENSHIT, which is amazing. I think it’s a no-brained to disallow slurs, but non-slur profanity was wrongly excluded
To bingo with a 7-letter word, you need to extend an existing word (like with an S). To bingo with an 8-letter word, you can play through any letter already on the board, which can be anywhere within your word. And playing 6 tiles at a time is not that common compared to getting a bingo.
Division 1 play tends to see more 8s than 7s due to wide open boards. Lower level play generally has fewer long plays and more stacking, which means more more 7s and fewer 8s
Nice!!!!! These are "great finds" and I will never forget the AUBERGINES play through 3 disconnected tiles (A, B, G ... book Word Freak) letters by infamous Expert Ron Tiekert. My longest was the 11 gratineeing ... but I "extended" gratinee so it was "NOT" all at once ... but "fun" to play. Why can't I do this? :)
The other day I spotted an opportunity for the word, disenfranchised, to span the board I was playing on. The word to play off of was Ranch, and there were the perfect spaces on either side. It was quickly squashed, though.
Heh. I was at that tournament where Chris Cree played ANNUALIZING. I don’t remember much from my past tournaments, but I remember that. I believe it was at a Texas State championship.
My longest play was sadly not a bingo, turning my mom's opening play of HOLE into FINGERHOLE on a triple word... but I can claim a 9-letter bingo of QUIESC(EN)T which, as someone who only plays online and against family, I think was pretty good!
I can see thinking you have to hit the double letter score with the Y, as it's 6 points more than playing the same word from the other DLS, and 12 letter bingos are so rare that I suspect defending against it never occurred to her
Yes, it's hard to tell without knowing the other two letters for sure, but even with such a great prefix for long words, the odds of your opponent having a 7-letter extension are microscopic, let alone a human player actually spotting one!
Google has announced that it's Willow quantum computer found a way to place 16-letter words in scrabble. Apparently it involves one of the tiles being two letters at the same time.
I'm pretty sure the algorithm those bots were using would prioritize longer words, if there was an additional bonus for using 9 letter words or longer. Some of these bingos felt low in score, given the rarity and length of the word. Bots will rather use various hooks into their play, and capitalize multiple words over the bonus tiles. If each letter starting at the 9th, gave another 50 points. Things would get interesting quick.
Agreed. There's plenty of situations where 9 letter words are available, but a 7 or 8 letter word still scores more or is strategically superior. I could easily see an argument to increase the bonuses for those extra-long plays.
I once played un(question)ably in an OTB game against a friend. Unfortunately, this 14-letter play was not a bingo and didn't even score all that well.
If i had a quarter for every time someone scored a 12+ bingo by prefixing "astro-" to a common field of study, I'd have two quarters, which isn't a lot but it's weird that it's happened twice
Just had to report that I just got a Giant Bingo and Double "Triple-Word" score of 194 pts with Queering starting on the bottom-left "Triple Word" square and ending on the Center "Triple Word" square (the second E in Queering was provided for me off off "Rupee". Janet in Los Angeles. 6/26/24
They play 0.975 seven-letter bingos per game, but don't forget they also play 1.235 eight-letter bingos per game. My own average for bingos per game is 2.21, and I don't miss too much under 9 letters, so this checks out!
I wonder if these very long bingos would be more common if one of the two AIs was restricted to knowing words up to 7/8/9 letters long. My reason for asking is because I imagine that human players rarely play to avoid giving their opponents such long bingo setups.
Amazing! Now the question is, how often in tournament play do these positions occur and players don't see them? Surely rare, but once in 6000 games must happen often enough.
I once extended METEOR to METEOROLOGIC, and later in the game extended it again to METEOROLOGICAL. When I did the second extension I had the LY to form METEOROLOGICALLY, but that's 16 letters and it didn't fit on the board.
I found it amazing that a computer with perfect word knowledge would play just one bingo per game on average (4:12 time stamp on video) is this correct?
Yes, as VogonPoet says, the count is 0.975 seven-letter bingos per game and 1.235 8s per game, summing to 2.21 bingos of 7 or 8 letters per game. (For reference, this is exactly my own average of bingos per game - I rarely play 9 letter words or longer and I also rarely miss bingos of 7 or 8 letters.)
I made the play of HOSPITAL(ITIES), a 13 letter non bingo, in Mondaily a few months ago, which is a tournament held on Woogles, a website for competitive scrabble. I didn't win tho
Longest bingo opportunity I've had (that I know of) was I had a woogles game that I plugged into quackle to see what the correct engdame was. When I saw I had a win according to the computer, and that I had made the correct move, I found that while I had seen the correct idea of fishing off a B to set up a spot for HAIRY hitting a double word with the Y on a triple letter, the winning play after this was blocked I missed was the 10 letter bingo extending JAM for JAMAHIRIYA, bingoing out to win. Wish I had saved the game this was so ridiculous.
This is absolutely insane. Highest scoring bingos next?
Then highest scoring non-bingos after that!
Seconding this! I'd love to see highest scoring bingos
This is a great idea.
I would like to second this idea
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Thanks for the shoutout, Will! Perhaps most astounding, when I played RE(PLANT)ATION, I was a lowly sub-1100 rated player. More than 10 years later, I’m still sub-1500 and haven’t replicated or surpassed that 12-lettter find in a tourney game.
worth noting that only one disconnected 11+ letter bingo has ever happened in tournament play and it was Nigel Richards' pernoctated
I was eyeing up the sister(h)o(ods) play and imagining how satisfying that must have been to put down.
@@glenm99(EL)ECTROCU(TE) too, crossing the bridge between 2 sides of the board, that's satisfying
Avery Mojica (RIP) once bingoed on me in an online game with PRENOMINATES as a 12 through I believe 3 (!) sets of disconnected tiles. I can probably still find it on ISC
@firefly256 @@glenm99 edited comment to say in tournament play, both those club moves are amazing too
In 1991, in a competitive home game between me and my friend who were both tournament-level players, he triple-tripled with "CONGRESS" starting on 1A, and on the very next play, I extended with "CONGRESSPER(S)O(N)S" starting on 1I. That was over 30 years ago, and I still have never played any word more than 9 letters since then.
Incredible play!
Once I played LIMAC(O)N and (U)N(SALARIED) in a scrabble go game
@@KeyholeGod I once played A(Z)I(M)U(T)H OTB against my brothers
What do the parentheses mean?
@@bowlofwhiskey They typically denote letters already on the board.
I turned my friend's STAnDING into UNDERSTAnDINGLy for a 203-point 15-letter bingo. It was on Scrabble Go - competitive, but not tournament play - and whenever the preserved screenshot crops up on FB memories I like to remind him of it.
This is a great video - fun to try to find them as you narrate. I think VAINGLORYING is probably the toughest to spot!
That is an incredibly impressive move that any Scrabble player should be hugely proud of. Nice one!
8:24 Rest assured the person who pulls this off will be IM(MORTAL)IZING themselves in Scrabble history!
Imagine it is that word
@@SafwanHayaat wouldn't be worth it, not even a bingo
@@junemck.5531 it would be in this case
what about S(LAUGH)TERHO(USE)S
Something I found interesting is that because I knew I was looking for super long extension plays, a lot of these weren't that difficult to find. Finding these in a real game is a whole different beast though, you never consider that you could in a one-in-a-million situation in the moment!
i think theres also a bias with which plays are made. Even (most) top pros cant memorize every 11-letter word and focus on the more common 7- and 8-letter bingos, so the 11-letter ones that actually happen, are because those words are pretty common. Impressive nonetheless, i cant say i could figure out most of them
in the screenshot of all of the 11+ ones, electrocute and sisterhoods are disconnected 11s
Exactly. Having the vision/creativity to even look for a play like this given how absurdly rare they are is half the battle.
I extended QUEST to QUESTIONABLE in a club game. I have a picture of the board.
that's questionable (joking)!
There's some brilliant plays on that 11 letter bingo list but there's only one word that I've never heard of, and of course it's Nigel's "pernoctated".
Proud to say I found astrobiology pretty quickly, though of course it's much easier if you know you're looking for a 12-letter word. Also I'm a big space nerd.
"Vainglorying" is absolutely incredible. My spellchecker doesn't believe it's a word. Very few dictionaries include the verb sense of "vainglory," pretty much just the OED form my research. It must have come from the Collins Corpus, so I guess "vainglorying" is in the CSW, and he must have remembered the 9-letter word "vainglory" as a noun _and a verb_ and saw the extension on board.
It is indeed Collins-only. I once attempted UNTEAR(FULL)Y through my opponent's FULL, not knowing for sure if it was good - it was challenged and it wasn't, sadly. Maybe Wellington just went for it not knowing for sure...
@@wanderer15 It's not only Collins-only, it isn't even present in the Collins dictionary, just their gajillion-world English corpus. Back before official word lists were made for longer words, this probably wouldn't be legal, since consulting the actual dictionary would show "vainglory" only as a noun.
Very nice. Now do the list of all shortest bingos
7 letter words are the shortest possible bingos and they happen all the time
@@XTLmaker what about players playing BINGO
this could be an april fools video
i know this is a joke but i am wondering whats the longest word someones made while only placing down 1 or 2 tiles
@@smoceany9478I would bet extending a bingo by -S or -ED or one of the two-letter prefixes (RE-, IM-, ...) so easily it's 10 or 11?
Whoosh@@XTLmaker
Loved this! Regarding ENQUIREE - I think a video about the best or most memorable phoneys would also be really cool.
Mack Meller has lots of amazing videos about the craziest phony word plays:
ruclips.net/video/os8DAsfXJ7s/видео.html
I dropped IRONATE on my mom once. Not a deliberate phony on my part; we both forgot about the word "ferrous". She vacillated then didn't challenge. Boom
Earlier this evening, a bunch of us played duplicate Scrabble online, with Chris Hawkins of the UK handling all the admin work. On move 20, the rack was AINORTT, and two players found (PENE)TRATION! Chris mentioned that you had just released a video about long words! What a coincidence!
Got jumpscared by myself at 0:08 lol
Thank you for this video!
Sorry about that, and glad you enjoyed!
The same day that this video was uploaded, during an online Duplicate Scrabble game that I was hosting for eleven players, two of the players (Ellie Mackin and Nicolas Moyart) spotted an eleven letter bonus from the rack AINORTT, extending PENE to make PENETRATION for 65!!
My inexplicable powers continue to increase
Will I recently discovered your channel and ohh boy I’m learning scrabble at very fast rate
I came 4th in my university tournament I am proud of myself all thanks to you 🎉
Love hearing this - great job!
This shows once again that the North American list just isn't vocabularied enough
Haha!
Thank you for making Scrabble history way more accessible and digestible for everyone, Will :D
Great video. Another idea I would be interested in seeing would be the best phony word plays in scrabble history.
Mack Meller has a lot of videos on this topic, playlist here:
ruclips.net/video/os8DAsfXJ7s/видео.html
The incredible thing about (P)ERNOCTA(TED) is that it doesn't just extend a 4 letter word, it weaves together two separate pieces. I'd be interested to see more examples of high-scoring plays like this - bingos or not - that spanned 2+ existing segments. I see SISTER(H)O(ODS) and (EL)ECTROCU(TE) on the list at 2:43 for instance.
Totally agree re: the disconnected nature of the play. Sometimes it’s tough to dig up those old board positions - hopefully now when someone makes a play like this, they’ll send me the position immediately so I can make a video about it :)
Your content and editing skills keep getting better and better! Amazing video!
So many beautiful finds, but my MVP (Nigel aside), goes to Ken Clark for UNIM(MUNI)ZED. These are all amazing feats, but this play really seals the deal for me. Well played, Mr. Clark.
Yeah, that one is pretty awesome
I dont play scrabble, but i love these videos. Good job making entertaining videos, Will.
This Will Anderson guy makes good videos… I’m glad I’m subscribed
Even among the longest plays, Nigel's PERNOCTATED still stands out. Every other 11 and 12 letter play from tournament games, and all but two of those from club games, were extending a 4 or 5 letter word already on the board, which made them a lot easier to spot. Even as an amateur player I'm pretty sure that, with CITY on the board and an inviting space in front of it, I could have found ELECTRICITY, and I might have stood a chance of getting one or two of the others too. But spotting a 3 letter word in one position and a single letter elsewhere, and figuring that there's an 11 letter word which connects them, is something else completely. (EL)ECTROCU(TE) and SISTER(H)O(ODS) are the only other players linking two previously unconnected spots.
Also, almost all the others are fairly common words which the player almost certainly knew anyway, rather than learning them specifically for Scrabble purposes (except possibly VAINGLORYING and ASTROGEOLOGISTS). PERNOCTATED is really the only one which makes you think "If he knows that, he must have learned all the 11 letter words just for the tiny chance that he might one day be able to play one."
I've set myself up for some long bingos in online games, but they were mostly played against much weaker opponents. Some of the easier setup words are RATIONS and CATIONS, which can make 14LWs like DEMONSTRATIONS, and 100s of words endings in -IFICATIONS. I've also tried -LOGICAL, but the things that go in front of it are too limited and hard to fish.
The longest non-setup word I remember playing was ESCHATOLOGY through my opponent's CHAT. I didn't even expect it to be a real word, since it's part of the name of a video game in Japanese (Atelier Escha & Logy; "and" is "to" in Japanese), and they are well-known for making up fake English words - e.g., things like "revengeance" and "heartful" are not real words!
Also, online games are quite different from over-the-board games, since you can try words on the board without revealing your tiles to your opponent. And if you play with the void challenge rule, you can literally throw everything at it to see what sticks.
ESCHATOLOGY is gorgeous. Good points re: online play as well.
I feel smart because I did manage to spot the plays of Electricity and Astrobiology before they were revealed.
Hey, Will! I remember going for a tournament last month in Ibadan, Nigeria and I met (who I believe to be) the head of Scrabble in Ibadan(that was my first outside-of-university tournament, so I don't know many people), and the man asked us all for our best ever plays, before revealing an opponent once played him a triple-triple RAT(I)ONAL, before he hit back with the stunning (RATIONAL)IZATION. I'd love to know if you could verify and if possibly make a video about this, as you know far more top Nigerian Scrabblers than me, judging from your recent video about Nigeria. Thanks
I'd have to do some research into that one but if I revisit this topic in the future I'll definitely keep this in mind. Thank you!
4:25 yes you knew I'd be curious, but did you think I'd be so curious to ask to see some of those AI-vs-AI games where there was a 13+ letter bingo? Those numbers suggest that they happened multiple times (five 15-letter bingos? We have to see those, right?)
An average of 5 per game per player - in the full data set, there were exactly 10 fifteen-letter plays. I should definitely get my hands on those board positions!
Vocabularied is a great word for scrabble too!
Your videos on Scrabble are absolutely brilliant and concise.
Keep going sir.
Coming back to this after an idea I had, and remembering a couple people joking about how they'd be the first to have a 16 letter bingo. While obviously this wouldn't be possible... in english! I noticed that spanish scrabble has ch, ll, and rr tiles. Theoretically, a 16 letter bingo could be possible in spanish scrabble (or even more if there's a 17 letter word with like ll AND rr in it?), although it would still be only 15 tiles. Only 16 letter spanish word I could find with ll in it is "maravillosamente". I'm sure there's at least a couple more. Thanks for the videos Will.
While there haven't been any 13+ letter bingos in a tournament, I wonder if that's still true when you consider non-bingo plays. Similarly, I'm curious how many 11 and 12 letter non-bingo plays have been made in tournaments.
To this end, it would actually be really interesting to see a breakdown of the relative frequency plays of all word lengths have, perhaps with each length also separated out depending on if the word was made with extensions, hooks, and crosses, etc.
I've heard of 14L non-bingo word in tourneys before
There's definitely more examples of 13+ letter plays that were not bingos, especially ones that players built up over a couple turns. Maybe another video topic sometime...
Would love to see this @@wanderer15
I was waiting for a video like this ! Thank you Will Anderson for this amazing video
Yay, thank you Will
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Fantastic video. Thanks Will. Another memorable move by Sherwin Rodrigues in a game in 2019 was an incredible 10- letter play. His rack was ADEELST. Not sure if there was a place for the obvious bingos coz he didn't go for either. He spotted I-DEAL-I-T-I-ES through 3 disconnected 'I's. Genius stuff👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
He is an amazing player for sure!
Two things:
1) I can't help but notice that Nigel Richards' (P)ERNOCTA(TED) is the only disconnected 11 or 12-letter bingo played in a tournament game. The rest were mere extensions. Another testament to Nigel Richards' inhuman Scrabble skill.
2) Have there ever been any 13-15 letter non-bingos plays in tournament or club games?
1) Absolutely true. I'd also say that PERNOCTATED is perhaps the most obscure word on the list as well.
2) Definitely! I didn't touch on them here, but there's many of these out there that I could see discussing in a future video.
This makes me feel really good about my (VAR)IATIONS in the bottom division many years ago.
I'm so proud of myself that I managed to spot both ELECTRICITY and TRANQUILISED. I can't say for sure I'd have found either of those since I have the advantage of knowing an 11/12 is about to be played, but still.
I've actually played an 11 in a WWF game, I extended the word SHED to REPLENISHED. I'm pretty sure I'll never do something like that again.
That's a tremendous play - nice one!
memorizing all 16 letter words to get an edge against the pros
my lone goal for the remainder of my scrabble career is to make a play of at least 13 letters regardless of how many turns i waste doing it
I eagerly look forward to editing the resulting video
I read about (QUINTES)SENTIAL in a scrabble strategy book I had growing up, glad I remembered it!
thanks for vainglorying these plays
as someone who knows nothing about scrabble these vids are so entertaining and easy to follow i love them
Love the alien bit. Great content as always. Thank you
I was just wondering earlier today what the longest played bingos were, and then you upload this! Thank you 😊
Yes I've been waiting for a video to cover this!
If my opponent ever plays 'Ology' as first move towards the right I'll also spend all my time trying to think of how to complete it.
I found a few of these, however, knowing that there is a long bingo there helps massively.
Yes, having the vision/creativity to even consider plays like this is part of what makes them all so special!
Nigel still did something pretty extraodinary as all of the other 11 letter words are ones that people have heard of/use in their daily lives, while a word like pernoctated is something so archaic that few would know the meaning of.
I got down the 13 letter non-bingo of (HOSPITAL)ITIES in a tournament on woogles one time. Probably wasn't my best play but I had played HOSPITAL as a bingo a turn or two earlier and the opportunity to play a 13 letter word doesn't happen all that often
Great play!
What's your longest bingo, Will?
(u)nbridle(d)
Vocabularied being the biggest bingo ever played in tournament scrabble is incredible. Why do puns like that always seem to occur in these videos
I could scarcely believe that myself!
POV me when I'm using scrabble word finder under the table to cheat
Great video Will! I love your new style of videos, but I also miss your longer form content, specifically the bonus round series. Maybe you could create a second channel where you upload those more raw types of videos? Just a thought, keep it up!
Thank you! Those videos certainly take a little less time to do... so maybe I should mix more of them in for my own sanity! :)
I have a friend who claims to have played (CHIC)KENSHIT, which is amazing. I think it’s a no-brained to disallow slurs, but non-slur profanity was wrongly excluded
Love the channel. These videos really help me fall asleep for bed.
Thanks, I think? :)
3:58 it's interesting how the AI simulations have more 8 letter words per game than 7 letter words
To bingo with a 7-letter word, you need to extend an existing word (like with an S). To bingo with an 8-letter word, you can play through any letter already on the board, which can be anywhere within your word.
And playing 6 tiles at a time is not that common compared to getting a bingo.
Division 1 play tends to see more 8s than 7s due to wide open boards. Lower level play generally has fewer long plays and more stacking, which means more more 7s and fewer 8s
Nice!!!!! These are "great finds" and I will never forget the AUBERGINES play through 3 disconnected tiles (A, B, G ... book Word Freak) letters by infamous Expert Ron Tiekert. My longest was the 11 gratineeing ... but I "extended" gratinee so it was "NOT" all at once ... but "fun" to play. Why can't I do this? :)
The other day I spotted an opportunity for the word, disenfranchised, to span the board I was playing on. The word to play off of was Ranch, and there were the perfect spaces on either side.
It was quickly squashed, though.
Would love to see a player enter a tournament for the sole purpose of playing a 13 letter bingo
Heh. I was at that tournament where Chris Cree played ANNUALIZING. I don’t remember much from my past tournaments, but I remember that. I believe it was at a Texas State championship.
Thanks for your reply to my comment. These videos are great. Maybe there will be even more bingos once the new NASPA lexicon takes effect Feb,, 29
My longest play was sadly not a bingo, turning my mom's opening play of HOLE into FINGERHOLE on a triple word... but I can claim a 9-letter bingo of QUIESC(EN)T which, as someone who only plays online and against family, I think was pretty good!
That's a play even champion Scrabble players would be extremely proud of. Nice one!
Would love to see someone go to a tournament for the sole purpose of playing a 13 letter bingo
Might be cool to cover one of those AI v AI games with a 15 letter bingo. Was surprised to see a frequency >0.
Oof poor Cynthia getting styled on
How do you open the game with OLOGY in the 8th column, creating an opportunity to TW a 12-letter bingo. That's gotta be a blunder, right?
I can see thinking you have to hit the double letter score with the Y, as it's 6 points more than playing the same word from the other DLS, and 12 letter bingos are so rare that I suspect defending against it never occurred to her
Yes, it's hard to tell without knowing the other two letters for sure, but even with such a great prefix for long words, the odds of your opponent having a 7-letter extension are microscopic, let alone a human player actually spotting one!
Google has announced that it's Willow quantum computer found a way to place 16-letter words in scrabble. Apparently it involves one of the tiles being two letters at the same time.
I have contemptuousness for 15. I'm waiting for the expansions to this board game so we can see even longer words!
Scrabble needs to allow letter wrapping so that 16+ words can be played. That way someone can play something like "anthrohopobiological".
I love love love love these videos
Hey Will, could you do the highest tournament scoring moves next? Big fan of your channel!
Definitely will get to this one at some point (and thanks!)
I'm pretty sure the algorithm those bots were using would prioritize longer words, if there was an additional bonus for using 9 letter words or longer. Some of these bingos felt low in score, given the rarity and length of the word. Bots will rather use various hooks into their play, and capitalize multiple words over the bonus tiles. If each letter starting at the 9th, gave another 50 points. Things would get interesting quick.
Agreed. There's plenty of situations where 9 letter words are available, but a 7 or 8 letter word still scores more or is strategically superior. I could easily see an argument to increase the bonuses for those extra-long plays.
No bingos involved but once I played a game where UNREFINISHED was on the board after the original FINISH was extended several times.
I once played un(question)ably in an OTB game against a friend. Unfortunately, this 14-letter play was not a bingo and didn't even score all that well.
If i had a quarter for every time someone scored a 12+ bingo by prefixing "astro-" to a common field of study, I'd have two quarters, which isn't a lot but it's weird that it's happened twice
Another day another banger
Just had to report that I just got a Giant Bingo and Double "Triple-Word" score of 194 pts with Queering starting on the bottom-left "Triple Word" square and ending on the Center "Triple Word" square (the second E in Queering was provided for me off off "Rupee". Janet in Los Angeles. 6/26/24
I once extended lava to galavanting for an 11 letter bingo. Thank you Game of Thrones
3:59 surprised to see that AI play less than one bingo per game on average, they must be very defensive!
They play 0.975 seven-letter bingos per game, but don't forget they also play 1.235 eight-letter bingos per game. My own average for bingos per game is 2.21, and I don't miss too much under 9 letters, so this checks out!
I wonder if these very long bingos would be more common if one of the two AIs was restricted to knowing words up to 7/8/9 letters long. My reason for asking is because I imagine that human players rarely play to avoid giving their opponents such long bingo setups.
Amazing! Now the question is, how often in tournament play do these positions occur and players don't see them? Surely rare, but once in 6000 games must happen often enough.
Probably about the same as in the AI vs AI games (which is what the rates shown were)
I once extended METEOR to METEOROLOGIC, and later in the game extended it again to METEOROLOGICAL. When I did the second extension I had the LY to form METEOROLOGICALLY, but that's 16 letters and it didn't fit on the board.
I think we're all waiting for Nigel to hit that first 13L tournament word.
2:32 UNIM(MUNI)IZED (Was this a typo or an unintended phony thanks to an extra tile on the board?)
Definitely a typo that should have read UNIM(MUNI)ZED! Good catch.
Josh the interviewer, mistreating César. Good stuff.
6:17 That's no rarity, I can find these kinds of plays all the time! Now to have it not challenged, on the other hand...
I found it amazing that a computer with perfect word knowledge would play just one bingo per game on average (4:12 time stamp on video) is this correct?
About 2.2 per game, you have to add the 7 letter bingo and 8 letter bingo numbers.
Yes, as VogonPoet says, the count is 0.975 seven-letter bingos per game and 1.235 8s per game, summing to 2.21 bingos of 7 or 8 letters per game. (For reference, this is exactly my own average of bingos per game - I rarely play 9 letter words or longer and I also rarely miss bingos of 7 or 8 letters.)
Always Nigel doing these things hahah
I believe russell honeybun has played Uncomputerized in a game in Australia.
the Z being 10 points will always look so cursed to me
Wow wasn't expecting Emory and Oglethorpe in a Scrabble vid!
Amazingly you’re the first to comment on them. Two of my favorite characters.
Are 13+ letter non-bingoes more common?
I made the play of HOSPITAL(ITIES), a 13 letter non bingo, in Mondaily a few months ago, which is a tournament held on Woogles, a website for competitive scrabble. I didn't win tho
Yes, though still extremely uncommon. Definitely warrants a follow-up video at some point.
Longest bingo opportunity I've had (that I know of) was I had a woogles game that I plugged into quackle to see what the correct engdame was. When I saw I had a win according to the computer, and that I had made the correct move, I found that while I had seen the correct idea of fishing off a B to set up a spot for HAIRY hitting a double word with the Y on a triple letter, the winning play after this was blocked I missed was the 10 letter bingo extending JAM for JAMAHIRIYA, bingoing out to win. Wish I had saved the game this was so ridiculous.
Hahaha, god, what a play
I had a 15 letter bingo once in a super scrabble game against a computer once.
another great video will!
now we need to see longest non bingos
Are there any non-bingo words longer than 12 letters that have been played in tournament games?
I'm sure there have. I once saw WHELMING get extended to OVER(WHELMING) then (OVERWHELMING)LY in a tournament
Definitely - perhaps a topic for another video!