Yooran lol I built a three story building on top of The Slog’s stone building (using ladders to access) so I’m unsure why he said this is so bad. I suggest sending her there
Chris it would be hilarious if he sometimes wandered into the settlement area and could actually be assigned. “Hey LP, could you farm those crops for me?” 🤣🤣🤣🤣
murkwater is the best settlement to have if your doing a shrek build or for sending strong there and pretend hes a ogre/shrek or for saying that famous quote GET OUT OF MY SWAMP
The only reason murkwater is horrible is because to clear it, u need to kill a mirelurk queen, when you need to defend it (in my experience) you have to kill a mirelurk queen
Mirkwater is my prison settlement. I always seem to get a few slackers who won't farm the crops I assigned them to.(I think it's a bug with Abernathy Farm, it seems to happen most often there.) Or worse, don't understand that my bed is MY BED. Off to the swamps with them.
That area isn't sustainable. Apart from the fact that it was a raider stronghold already makes it a bad area, then added to the fact of how close it is to the sea. After a couple decades that area will fall into the ocean due to erosion, and also the fact that synths turn it into a stronghold.
@@CDTyphol sure, but it's more sustainable than coastal cottage, which is a literal hole in the ground with no protection from outside attacks, no cover from the elements or even proper ground to build on.
It's Bethesdas. I WANT TO WATCH THEM BURN AND SUFFER UNTIL THEY FALL DOWN INTO THE 🔥FIRE🔥 PITS OF HELLLLL! ooopppsyyy! sorry every time I her the shunned name I fall into an unstable fit if rage.
The Slog is awesome. It's unique and one of my favorites. The land is mostly flat. There is plenty of room for crops and building and water purifiers in the pool.
Yea very easy to build just knock out the shitty fencing and make the concreted area sealed off with a door to their crops. Easy enough to block off the entrance to their building so it only has the pool entrance which is now your building with easy access to water if you get rid of the cranberries
I hate the Croup Manor Settlement. Before discovering the location, you think "Hey! I could use this Mansion and make an awesome house!" Only to discover its useless because of how damaged it is.
Agreed, It confuses me when the only way to patch holes in houses is through a glitch or a mod.. It should be a basic ability. And don't get me started on those shitty Sanctuary Hills houses that you can't do shit with.
It's small but easy to build vertically and it's positioned really well near diamond city, for survival runs it's great. Also because you can't fast travel in suvival mode, but you can use the institute teleporter, the CIT ruins are right by hangmans alley which allows for very easy access. Not saying it's perfect but i use it quite a lot and wouldn't put in even close to the ones on this list.
You can also glitch the basic water pumps so that you can build them inside the walls of the surrounding building. As for settlement security, create a staircase going up to about the second story area. Build a floating walkway around the entrances, place turrets on the walkways and then scrap the walkways. The turrets (and Generators work for this too) will remain floating in the air and leaving you plenty of space to work around to build housing etc.
Hangman's Alley is the best settlement by my books. With the scaffolding, I have nice floor space, 8 different shacks, and 14 sellers. Extra food, defence, and water. ~90 happiness.
sarge absolutely. and to make things even worse, the build height there is pathetic so you can't even build yourself a nice towering house! well ok you can just not a very big one
I have a mod call new and expanded areas and scrapping which expands out the build wall area and things that can be scrapped is that the one you were speaking of
The “Scrap Everything” mod made some of these my favorite places to build. Outpost Z is what I usually turn in to a faction outpost with crazy defenses, nuclear power, and a vertibird landing pad. If you haven’t tried mods yet just get the most recent of Scrap Everything and it’ll make settlement building way more fun for you. You can even scrap the roads in Sanctuary or the dirty rubble and trash you find on the ground to make things look more clean/tidy. Combine it with the expanded settlement mods that are out there and you can even make Jamaica Plain in to a small town with much more room to build on.
Fair warning though to add onto that statement, the scrap everything mod is not compatible with clean and smooth mods that basically do all the scrapping for you and then some
Another mod to get that makes Jamaica Plain pretty awesome is the Snappy HouseKit mod. That one basically adds in all the tiles for pretty much every type of base building in the game, including the ruined ones in Jamaica plain. Heck, I used it to turn the broken down brick structure the workshop is located at into a 3-storey apartment building with roof access & a bunch of heavy laser turrets & a minuteman artillery piece on the roof. Using the same mod, I also completely restored the house next to it. Have plans to scrap the useless house & replace it with something that looks sorta similar but is actually usable.
@@aelfredhauscarl I don't like to mess with their berry farm operation thing. Water for my settlements comes from the Fort and the Taffington Boathouse
Man i was disappointed in Jamaica Plain settlement had so much potential to be a big city town or a fortress in design, Murkwater to me feels like a Railroad outpost for some ungodly reason.
Damian Lockheart I glitched a new house into the destroyed one at Murkwater, then put up a wall through the pond and lined it with missile turrets so every time I go there I get some free and easy mirelurk queen meat
Before I realized that you could scrap the radioactive barrels in the Drive In, my settlers would walk past it and collapse. I don't know if they died, but it was really annoying having a nice big flat area for a settlement with a very radioactive pool in the middle. If you suck it up and scrap the barrels in the pond then everything is groovy.
LOL, I keep thinking ... uh yeah, that's why I built like 10 automatic cannon thingies there, but OK, sure, I'll just run the 500 miles back to that town, hoping the raiders will wait for me to show up before they attack.
I remember that pool.. It was like bethesda was mocking us with the fact that building around things can be such a pain. Ohh, what is that? An entirely flat open field? Ohh. oops.. I dropped something
I would substitute The Slog, with Hangman's Alley. The Slog is an awesome build site, easily defended. Hangman's Alley has a narrow area to build in, not much good ground for planting, and existing wires that limit the ability to build raised structures.
I love hangmans alley, good location, it’s easy to fill up and build something that looks live able without wide open unfilled spaces, easy to build up, access to rooftops and super easy to defend, you can even make a basketball court
Hangman's Alley is one of the prime settlements for Survival Mode due to it's more central location. Honestly, if I wasn't so in love with my Red Rocket Station set up, I'd consider moving my main base of operations there because it is easier to get back and forth to locations from there.
@@givemeajackson 200 yards further you have diamond city other then the load screen its fine. Also covenant is better for a nothern base provided you do that quest.
Personally, I hate Finch's Farm the most. There's raiders on one side, super mutants on the other, and an assaultron is usually lurking around the road as well. That's in addition to the uneven ground and limited building options.
Finch Farm has one of the highest build limits in the game, right alongside Greygarden. Go up to the freeway and no problem. Although getting your settlers to actually go up there can be difficult at times.
I know this isn't a common complaint, but I hated that the NPC's there weren't essential. They're part of a quest and named, and I like having named settlers.
One thing i hate about the settlements is when you put all the defenses in place a message comes up. Help defend this place. I have 25 people at egret tours marina and they need my help. Why? When i get there everyone is hiding.or they say yes. I didnt bother with hangman's alley or finch farm
I have fast travel mats in front of all my workbenches. When the attack happens when I show up, I just clean out the workbench check the Vault Tech terminal I put next to the workbench while the turrets are doing their stuff, then loot the bodies and repair stuff that got damaged. Now that I have the Tidy Bot mod I can just leave and all the loot from the attack will be in a box when I pop back in.
@@mcj2219 Every settlements can get 10 settlers plus your charisma level. So max is technically 21, 10 in charisma plus the bobble-head. To get 25 you need to wear clothes that boost charisma or take chems.
Yep, every settlement I build is a brutalist nightmare (I'm still on vanilla, and always really poor, so what are ya gonna do?), and building up is the answer to all of these (even though it's a huge pain sometimes (and yeah, I'm late).
@@Synicizm Problem with vanilla is that you can't carry much junk so you need to do a lot of short runs. Just loot every building in your way while discovering the map.
@@damnsonwheredyoufindthis.3830 This is so true. I have agi and str maxed, plus all the action girl and strong back perk points, so it's not too bad at all to hoard now, but the beginning was rough. It'll be time to start a new character soon, so rinse and repeat. After I get through all the endings, though, I'm modding this game to death (hopefully not literally), so I'll have to see what's out there =)
My thought through this entire video was pretty much just "stilts". In one of my playthroughs I built a huge elevated pyramid covering almost the entire area of the murkwater site - way larger than any settlement has an actual use for. Mirelurk queen spawns underneath it and immediately gets blasted by a bunch of turrets.
Use the Mechanist Lair to connect to all settlements with robot convoys, that's all you need it for. Frees up the other settlements and its always funny to follow them and watch the mayhem as they keep the major paths and highways cleared. I love watching several of my robots ganging up on random Behemoths and Deathclaws.
I did the same thing, I also used the Boston Airport as a robot patrol area so I have many robots from the lair and airport both on patrol.. only problem is if a robot accidentally goes too close to the brotherhood base... it will become a full all out war... my robots had brotherhood guts everywhere it was disgusting but hilarious! I was like OH NO!! One or the other will open fire on eachother if a robot goes into the Brotherhood gates.... My robots annihilated them fast made short work of them...and I'm allied with them... but it didn't affect me in any way..
It would be great for Bethesda to release a mod that are the 10 player requested settlements that didn't interfere with the trophy aspect. For me a tactile move would be to inhabit Raider camps so they cant get another foot hold. Just seems like common sense. Plus there are some wide spaces between settlements on the supply line where it felt like there should have been a settlement.
Nelson the drive in theater in Far Harbor... it actually works and I spent a sad amount of time looking for a workbench... but no such luck. I might do something there with mods later on.
I always wanted to make College Square great again, after clearing all the ghouls. I'm thinking there are already built up defenses by the BoS in which would be the entrance to a big Trader's paradise, you know kinda like a better Bunker Hill, but for that the building limit would be really big cause you'd need to build walls all around the area and its huge.
Do you realize on survival how crucial it is having hangman’s alley? Linking all your settlements to that location with diamond city a rock toss away? And not for nothing but I fit a 3 story hotel in there lol.
Oliver F. I did that and I used a few other mods and turned just about all 8 of these settlements into great settlements, except tenplines bluff, that I basically turned into a death camp for settlers to fight deathclaws
I used the concrete base for the barn and built 4 pillars in the pool, so that the tarberries were still accessible, then built a 3 story barn above the pool. It worked out pretty well.
Only bad ones are the ones that stop certain elements from being built like the airport or mechanist lair. Every other base is a blank slate you can build anything on
5:00 Dude that makes the Slog better! Nothin’ like a Brotherhood patrio, a bunch of strong settlers, the Forged, Gunners, and me in an all out brawl haha.
I’m laughing so hard right now cause I knew what you’d pick as No 1 & it’s the one I’ve chosen for my actual player home. Not a settlement but just a place for me, myself & I. Cause I don’t want no Npcs bothering me.
tenpines bluff and outpost zimonja are literally my favourites, i love that tenpines is small and i love the existing structures, i kept it like a small farm, but i had no problem turning outpost zimonja into a 20 person behemoth with massive ramshackle skyscrapers, connected by a bridge, built on and around the existing structures.
Luckily, we have mods for most of that now. XD The premade beds can also bug you out, always scrap or delete them if you can! Without mods, the Mech Lair is mostly just good for a central hub for robot supply lines to each settlement. You left out that at Outpost Z. one of the enemy spawn points moves with the welcome mat spawn point. There is construction equipment by coastal cottage, for cement bags, they respawn, and a room under the bridge that has scrap too sometimes. Not to mention there is a shop right next to it. Once you get mods to scrap the garbage, it's not that bad. For me, the worst is possibly Jamaica Plains, next time I will scrap that useless house... The main reason that one is so small is that the lag for that area is bad, but it was the most disappointing because of that the first time, not to mention the low build height, like Hangman's ally. Hangman's Ally is also very disappointing, the low build height, and the fact that the settlers won't use half of the area that is there... But the one that that upset me the most in vanilla was Croup Manor, all of that water you could not use and dead ghouls and skeletons that would move back after you dragged them out, getting them stuck inside what you built (before we had mods to scrap them), made it torture. It took SO long to drag them out just to have them move back when you left!
>The premade beds can also bug you out, always scrap or delete them if you can! He says he can't. Which is odd because I can. I wonder if it's because he's playing the Xbox version.
Yep, I don't use Hangman's Alley unless asked by The Railroad to set up a base/safehouse there. Too close to town and Supermutants and needs strong defenses.
I find that since Hang mans alley is so small and narrow it's really easy to defend. I just put up a few turrets on the entrances and a vertical building at the center for my settlers.
Francis & Jessica Boucher That was my main base since it was in the middle of the map. Pretty easy to defend too since it naturally chokes enemies with the narrow paths. Only issue I could see someone having is if they have a desire to build something big and extravagant.
Main thing I do not like about settlements is how close the spawn points are for enemies. Most spawn within the border of the build area. The other part is how a settlement gets raided and loses even though I have the defences way up and the settlers VERY well armed and armored.
Sight Beyond Sight yeah, those mechanics are fucked up. especially as the actual attacker spawns are moved in a direct path closer to the workshop in relation to your travel time without accounting for any settlement structures if you aren't in the settlement already when it's attacked... So even though you build an almost impenetrable fortress, if you have a long way to get there, the enemies will spawn into the world cell way inside those defences as if they were institute synths teleporting in...
Yea but patches fixed settlements losing all the time a long while ago. It's up to you to build a settlement properly enough to survive. AKA def over 200 is always a good idea.
Thankfully, we now have mods for that too. Settlement Attacks Beyond www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/12892/? It can't help you with all of them, like the Outpost Zimonja one that moves with your spawn/welcome mat, but it takes care of most problems. Thunder, Thunder, Thundercats ...HOOOOOOOOO!
Hangman's Alley is awesome, you can build WAY up, choke out all sunlight on the ground level and still sustain crops. You gotta be creative. Just NEVER unlock that front gate.
About a third of Hangman's Alley is off limits to settlers. There is some kind of invisible wall they won't pass. Of course this is also the area where I would put most of my crops.
It's small but easy to build vertically and it's positioned really well near diamond city, for survival runs it's great. Also because you can't fast travel in suvival mode, but you can use the institute teleporter, the CIT ruins are right by hangmans alley which allows for very easy access. Not saying it's perfect but i use it quite a lot and wouldn't put in even close to the ones on this list.
@@christopherconard2831 Use Flower pots and planter boxes. Off Limit/no access areas you build your Trophy Rooms for Rare and Unique items. The only way in is the build menu, Move or Store the Walls to get in. Turn it into a trade market, salvage, and manufacture settlement. Build UP!
@@abelsabrowsky4470 i just put a inmoveable fence block the door on both sides of the door sure the door can open but you cant pass through nor can raiders and my bottom floor is turrets traps and people.
Personally the worst for me is vault 88 because it is easy to build rescources, but it has a mire lurk queen rad scorpions, a deathclaw, and lackluster space in the main room for an actual vault
Concrete buildings made building settlements easier and a lot better for defenses to wreck anyone dumb enough to try and attack it. My first slog had 2 story walls with 3 missile, 2 heavy laser, and 2 machine gun turrets aimed at the raider settlement nearby. I used to take potshots at the raiders and watch them make a suicide charge against me. Way to easy.
I like to fix the Castle walls and use the electric sliding door, so during the "defend the Castle" quest against the institute, I can relax, have a nuka cola, and watch my turrets and heavy settlers rip some coursers and chrome-domes a new asshole. Not to mention having between 5 and 10 artillery pieces active at Spectacle all at once. I build the Castle and Spectacle island as to support each other. The Castle guards take potshots at anyone of ill-intent trying to swim towards Spectacle island, who has their own turret system, and Spectacle Island has many artillery pieces to rain hell on any ne'er do-well's who try to invade the castle. Not to mention the Castle's own artillery, and all the turrets, including a vast AA system using the turret workshop pack's minigun turrets, plasma spinner turrets and EMP missile turrets. The main gate also has a single fat man turret perched on a tall scaffold to lay down the law on any insignificant shitter who thinks they can take on a 100% happiness settlement with nearly 300 defense and many, MANY power armor units with big ass guns (gatling lasers and miniguns galore. Also, some missile launchers). The Castle was the pinnacle of minutemen engineering, lost to file corruption due to power outage when I was loading the game. damn electrical storms. oh well, at least I can remember. I wish I had footage of the synth attack, but the only thing I have is a video of a single, insignificant, dumbass ghoul that tried his luck. Sadly, before the big guns were installed. His clock still got cleaned.
Jamaica plain goes straight to my number one spot simply because of how disappointing it was just to get that small slice of real estate after clearing the entire town. But besides that I think you're right on the money. I was role playing a world where the Commonwealth settlements become very militarized and create a coalition. Coastal cottage and Murck water are probably the only settlements were I don't have anyone there or even guards. Nor even a supply line. I literally just made a prefab metal house and tossed a bed and some crafting stuff in there for when I'm near them doing quests. So of anything at least they are locations for my safe houses
@@intimidatingloli2212 for me its because of how narrow hangman is i get that you can add floors but that still only take you so far even with build mods
@13477 54У33 It is *THE* place to dump all Junk & Aid in the workbench form all other settlements. In that way their scavengers are more efective. Everytime you visit a settlement go to workbench, "take all", and dump it in Boston AP.
I play with a mod which enables me to clear most of the rubble in game. I like to have empty space, not only for building but also for defense (enemies will have quite a hard time getting through the clearing surrounding your turret tower ... Your list practically corresponds to the list of those which I just conquer and leave empty (just a trading post, some turrets, maybe a robot inhabitant, which is really a provisoner and that's all. Easy defense is one of my main arguments really. My shitelist: 1. Hangman's Alley - buggy, very limited space (but serves as a great provisoner hub) 2. Jamaica plain - pretty well explained in the video. It makes me extremely nervous all those buildings around, with all the corners enemies could be hiding. 3. Murky Wastewater or whatever - trees all around for enemies to hide, really UGLY surroundings (in comparison with some astounding views in other locations I really don't have any reason to want to come here); also, it is southeast on the map, so in the area which you generally visit pretty late 4. Covenant - I don't have a mind of serial killer to like to eradicate all original population. Very limited building space (also height limit is annoyingly low); on the other side it is really beautiful 5. (without the mod) Tenpines Bluff - the non scrapable shack is in the direction where the enemy spawnpoint is so it is in the way. If I can scrap the shack and build a decent house there it becomes quite nice, with wonderful views and (due to being built on the edge of a slope) quite an easy defendable settlement. 6. Boston airport - just makes no sense. Makes me mad not being able to build a purifier with water all around. And you loose control if you turn your back on BOS (Yes I did it, stone me, OK? In my defense I can tell you I cried) 7. Bunker hill - although nice, there are just too many complications having a settlement here. Being among the houses efficient defense is difficult. Annoys me that the obelisk is a great point of height but cannot be put to good use for defense. 8. Graygarden - just too many robots so it's hard to mantain decent happines rating; otherwise a nice settlement I like Coastal cottage; I scrap pretty much everything, move the bench, fill the cave with concrete and build quite easily defendable settlement. Near the sea, really beutiful. The Slog is essential for me, as it is a source of Tarberries - to make detect life potion. I actually like the building - there is enough space for all the settlement to sleep inside, and I usually build additional structures of the settlement on the roof. Regarding nearby enemy posts: I arm my settlers quite well. It's a treat to see when twenty of them storm Saugus or incoming Gunners in full combat armor and armed with max modded plasmas, miniguns and handnmade rifles. But I really love Finch farm. When you build the stairs (or elevator) up to the highway you take out any enemy vermin with ease from height. Plus, you can play a sniper both on Gunners on the north and mutants on the south. The satelite array mutant suicider is a permanent source of mininukes. The settlem
Most of these settlements aren't really that bad to be fair. Coastal is a bad one in the beginning but using assets like scaffolding and pillars it's a rather unique place just like Jamica Plains and Murkwater. Murkwater is awesome for water production and you can make it really feel like a ramshackled early settlement using the junk fences and wood structures and walkways. Coastal and Jamica are the same just require a bit more creativity. Also Jamica has no problems with planting food even outside of using plots. Just plant in the road behind the house and the small area of dirt between the house and parking lot. I had enough food planted in these areas to feed 20 settlers (using just Corn and Carrots) and never used the parking lot area to do so. Only noobs need giant build spaces to make a good settlement. :p
you need the dlc that lets you build concrete structures. i turned murkwater construction site into a fortress, 4X4 foundation, two purifiers below ground level, fusion reactors on ground level, second floor isn'T very usefull because you have to omit a lot of floor space to fit the reactors into the level below, third floor is where my settlers sleep, fourth floor has windows with guard posts, roof has turrets and an artilery piece.
It has quite a low build ceiling, actually. It's still an easy settlement to max Happiness, though. I did it with 5 Bars, 2 farmers, and 1 guard. Super easy to defend, as well. Most attackers spawn inside the narrow entrance near the riverfront. Place a fence across the alley a few feet inside the entrance, with turrets firing down from above.
it can be tricky to build a working settlement there i give you that, but it is a useful location, with it being in the middle of the city, and if you are clever enough you can build it in a way that allows you to get on the surrounding rooftops, which will greately improove your mobillity, especially if you have a jet pack. also remember to build your artilery pieces on top of concrete towers there so the guys there don't just keep shelling the wall next to them.
One more thing, this is the reason there are supply lines in case you can't plant crops, build a Water purified, or don't have enough scrappable resources.
I build flat topped settler dorms and market areas all pointed towards Saugas then load them up with missles and heavy lasers and of course artillery because its fun to rain hell down on the Forged 😈😈😈😈
I'm glad that some of the problems that you mentioned have been taken care of! I have made settlements in all of the places you've talked about and I enjoy the challenge of small, odd spaces! I'm not especially fond of large areas because they can become unwieldy when building and keeping track of! With Spectacle Island I blocked off half the island with concrete walls and only built on one side! With my third or forth playthrough, I used console commands to scrap everything and the "clean and smooth" mods on some of the places. That was fun to see how different these were to work with! Great vid! Thankyou!
*Preston Garvey has joined the chat* "I forgot General. Another settlement needs our help. Here I've marked it on your map." *Preston Garvey has left the chat*
I never really thought the slog was all that bad and you can actually build stuff on the side of the main building. Most of these settlements though are ones where when I play they end up getting a bunch of turrets, an artillery piece and a robot to operate the artillery and I don't try to build them up to populated places.
Tenpines Bluff is awesome. If you build your structures along the perimeter with your farm as the center piece there's plenty of room for whatever you need and the buildings act as a defensive wall. I love the little stone walls. I wish they were an item you could build. I might make that a mod. Jamaica Plain is cool too, except the build limit sucks. There is plenty of places to plant crops for 30+ settlers. Mirelurk Construction is ok. The two buildings suck, but there's plenty of places for water purifiers. I don't know why you keep talking about limited supplies. Why anyone would bother with settlements and not have provisioners is beyond me. Hangman's Alley, Croupe Manor, and Home Run should be on this list. Also, Kingsport Lighthouse isn't that great due to low build area.
I plan to put two towers there ion Tenpines, and have that be the entrance gate. go down to the basement, and up to the living area. If you are on pc, you can console those walls in. They need a clone tool.
I have this habit of picking up EVERYTHING, so yeah...I can get by fine without supply lines but man does it make it easy. Especially once you link up Vault 88 and the metric assload of salvage in there.
So here's what u did with all of these settlements... having the "scrap anything help a lot with this: I turned tenplines bluff into a death trap for settlers I didn't like to fight deathclaws.. outpost zimonja I turned into my own personal little hideaway for me and my lover companion.. the slog turned out to be a place where I sent most of my ghoul companions that didn't fit in, I also built onto the roof of the building.. Boston airport has a synth clone of my pre-war spouse along with a protectron, I used a mod that gave me large stone structures to build and is still a work in progress.. the mechanists lair is a place I am currently keeping a bunch of mr handys I constructed that I will be using for supply lines.. Jamaica plain ended up having broken build area and I only had half of the inaccessible house and parking area, yet I have a couple living there as it being a fully functional player home.. mirelurk construction site ended up being one of my main settlements, using wooden hallway ends and scaffolding to make mini apartments.. costal cottage ended up being my largest and main settlement, Using the mod "Homemaker" and "scrap anything," I scrapped the destroyed house and built a large building atop the hole with a main front room with vendors, a side room with generators, and a back room bar with a kitchen behind it, and an upstairs being the bedrooms.. the mod called "northland diggers" gave me a lot of things to assign my settlers, and accumulating more resources. I also use a place in red mod to allow me to place anywhere
*Players:* _Wow, University Point would make a great place to settle down, it's already pretty much set up._ *Bethesda:* _Best I can do is this hole in the ground._
To be honest I love these difficult to build settlements as it makes you think outside the box and it ends up being way more unique than some basic designs
I got tired of settlement help requests... so I shut off the castle tower, either shot or moved the last settlements somewhere more convenient, then I moved preston to some random location where I opened a workbench.. I don't even remember which one
Murkwater Construction Site is one of my favorite settlements to build at, I start my building there by framing in the existing destroyed shack with concrete walls, which becomes my quarters, and then I build a 3 storey fortress on top of that with concrete flooring, I turn it into a Minutemen headquarters, and I start my settlement building at: Abernathy Farm,Tempines Bluff, Outpost Zimonja, Egret Tours Marina, Finch Farm, Greentop Nursery, National Park visitor's center, all where and existing piece of flooring is that can be snapped to
Worst ever settlement is got to be home plate it is the most restricted,smallest,and most expensive(2000 caps) place in all of the common wealth and it looks like shit on the inside
Actually coastal cottage is bigger and with a bit of creativity you can make a very cool settlement. With home plate however there is just no room to get that creativity In.
If your talking about mods yeah they do improve home plate but the mods build the place for you and there's no fun in it no fun in building a settlement for your self.
I used Boston airport for a main base, it was perfect as a pit stop, I can just fast travel to pridwin grab ammo and sell stuff Hop down to my main base (if I had power Armor On) drop off anything not sold, stock up on nades and other genaral stuff like switching out weapons, then be on my way and if I wanted a settlement near by I can just walk over to nordhagen beach if needed
With Outpost Zimonja, I do what a call "Trumping" my settlements. I start by building a wall around my settlements. Give it a door and leave one area exposed. The way I have mine set up, I put a wooden structure in the open gap and filled one side in with a concrete floor and kept stacking it. The other side has a large guard outpost with enough walking room for a Brahmin, but has 2 spotlights beaming their light in the eyes of anyone coming from that direction (not sure if it works that way) In order to keep the walls level I use the concrete floors in the wooden section just so I can put wooden walls on top of them and then delete some of the unneeded concrete while keeping the walls in the same place they were. After that I just built onto the preexisting structures and added a roof/floor where I built a large metal structure and stacked a large wooden structure on top of it wit a couple ladders leading to it. Then add some turrets, water pumps, some crops, establish some supply lines to Tenpines, Starlight, Red Rocket, Abernathy and Sanctuary and arm all your settlers with some good armor and guns and no more than 5 settlers with miniguns and you got a typical settlement for me. Funny thing is, Outpost Zimonja's a quick one I did cuz I didn't like it either.
Mechanistic lair is my favorite one, it's the safest base, I use it as a production settlement to manufacture weapons and armor to supply to other settlements, just a few bunch of robots will defend the place without any problem, unlike as other settlement which get attacked frequently wen you set up a manufacturing unit mechanic lair rarely get attacked and even wen it's under attack it's easy to defend with robots
How is Hangman's Alley not even on this list??? It is by far, THE WORST settlement for players that want to actually build a somewhat self-sustaining settlement. It's awful. With Jamaica Plain a close second.
Butter Pecan Rican I actually really like hangmans alley for the reason you automatically get walls (all the surrounding buildings) and you can keep the back scrap walls with the locked door meaning enemies can only come in one way. Also it's very centralized on the map. Always have to download mods to scrap all the shit in it though
Voltaire I usually build walls around all my settlements anyways. I don't know why I bother trying to build it up. I should've gotten creative with my use of the place during my current playthrough, instead of trying to buld it like my other settlements.
I'm with you on Coastal Cottage being 1 on the list worst settlement locations in FO4. The RR wanted me to set up an RR safe house there in my last play of FO4.
yea i sided with them but only to avoid the ownership issues. i then just disabled all the unowned turrets and named settlers. too bad all the other settlers are also overly cheery and annoying
Kill the settlers, scrap the turrets on a shack floor piece, along with everything "Owned". It helps to kite them down to the lake before killing them, to keep the limbs and eyeballs from littering the place. As a bonus, the corpses continually respawn their inventories for easy food and loot.
yea fixed all that but now all i want is to make the settlers use the 'DialogueFarmGeneric' speaking options like normal settlers in other settlements since they talk like I sided with Covenant accordingly. Would be perfect if I could change the default dialogue for them.
My only problem with it is that I hate having to through the bodies of settlers in the lake it's so tedious but I don't want to just leave them there. I usually send my robot son there.
I take the trump approach and build a wall of concrete around all my settlements as close to the green as I can, then I build a sleeping barracks into the side of a good spot in the wall. Build a gate using the warehouse doors.
Murkwater construction site is the worse for me by far. From the first time i saw it after i liberated it my first reaction was " What the hell , this is a dump". Who would possibly want to stay here. And yes , the Mirelurk queen does indeed respawn.
Costal cottage OMG yes i really got hyped when i found it and then i found out those annoying house remains cant be scrap. then i thought hay maybe i might be able to create a sick tunnel or under ground building of sort then i saw the size of the "hole"
I'm really proud of what I built at Tenpines Bluff, Outpost Zimonja, Jamaica Plain, Murkwater Construction Site and Coastal Cottage. Had each walled, fortified and well equipped with food and water sources. And integrated stuff that was there originally into what I added. Jamaica Plain is one of my three go-to surface regrouping points (others being Sanctuary and Hangman's Alley). But after purchasing Season Pass I move more and more of my stuff to Vault 88. In Murkwater, I built half of the settlement's stuff on the water and the Queen won't respawn. In Coastal Cottage, the hole is perfect for establishing a motorized pump or two.
the one that have Preston Garvey and the best is red Rocket station from the start I build my base there my "house" is the structure i walled It put a bed a dog house for my bestfriend dogmeat
Red Rocket is fantastic when you're starting out, has all the workbenches you could ask for, gives you a companion who never judges your actions, and is close to a lot of low-level 'dungeons.'
Gromp Killer i just like the slog for the view, location, and ample water resource. Not to mention my settlers are all geared put to look like road warrior scavs haha
Jade Prout Don't feel bad you can be as cruel, violent and racist as you want it's a lot of fun i try building some concentration camps and i always keep everyone else there weak so they depend on me too much to rebel and even if they dare to defy me the whole village wouldn't stand a chance too bad you lose the control of the settlement workbench if you kill everyone
I agree with this list but 3 other settlements I hated were hangman's alley taffington boathouse and nordhagen beach not because nordhagen beach is a bad settlement but because when you play in survival like I am it is too inconvenient to get to considering one of the first things you have to pass through is libertalia
I totally agree with Hangman's Alley. Its just some random hovel out of the hundreds in Fallout 4 you clear out, and the sole survivor is like, "Hmm... I'ma put some mutfruit here." So stupid. Also I hate Covenant. You kill everyone there, and it's still considered stealing when you loot the place and have your own settlers move in. Plus all those pre-installed turrets don't count towards its security score at all.
I was able to do some neat stuff with Hangman's Alley. It took some time and patience but I ended up making a 3-4 story shanty-town esque settlement. Its a bit tough trying to make room for food but I was able to grow some crops in one of the dirt patches, albeit a bit glitchy. However, it is a really small area with very little freedom to build so I can see why people might not like it.
Hangman's Alley do have a purpose: it's directly next to Diamond City. So, after I connected the settlement to my supply lines grid, I can just drop every scraps and shipments I buy in DC or scavenge in the ruins nearby and it go directly into the whole settlements system. Other than that, you're right, it's not much useful.
5 bars, 2 farmers, 1 guard, 2 dogs, 4 missile turrets, 2 heavy machine gun turrets, 2 spotlights= 100% Happiness. May be possible to use even less, but I sent Tina De Luca there and I think her sour puss is a drag lol.
Hangmans alley works very well as a favela style settlement. Build up and stack with criss crossing boardwalks. Mine came out awesome. Also if you have wasteland workshop use garden plots on roof tops. Otherwise i had no problem making mutfruit and carrots to supply my settlers on the ground. Just had to set up a bunch of lights to make it seem realistic as the buildings shade everything out
For Tenpines Bluff I now build a two story 3 x 4 building between the broken building and the garden stone wall. I can easily house 20 settlers in it, and I put an artillery piece on the roof. For the Slog, build between the building and the fence on the north side of the building. I generally place a 3x4 barracks at all my settlements. The only places I can't do that are Hangman's Ally,, Jamaica Plain, and Croup Manor. At Murkwater, build on stilts.
Jamaica Plain- there is enough space, if you that garden area in the middle. You can plant crops and water around it. Murkwater construction site- yea, it's very little space so you want to build one mega barrack with all stuff inside it. And it will be well defended.
The Slog is one of my favorite places to build because I build on the roof and arm that place to the teeth which makes taking on the Ironworks exterior easy since I lure them to the Slog. And I use the airport as my own personal home since it sucks for settlers.
i personally think that outpost zimonja is one of the better places to build for complex builders or intermediate builders like myself when playing fallout 4. the reason why i think so in my opinion was i tested out a theory at one point where i just make a randomly generated new game with random loot spawn tables (so just a new game) and then 1 by 1, owned as many workshops i could. what i would do once owning the settlement/area, was scrap absolutely everything to the last object so the bar was empty (sometimes taking hours to find the remaining objects) and then only use what i scrapped to make anything i wanted out of what i had gained from the scraps to build my own settlement accustomed to the area. outpost zimonja was one of the better and most convienient places for me as once a settlement beacon was set up at one of the workshops that had the ability to build it, not only would i begin getting people to work at outpost zimonja but giving a settler a fatman with power armour, then placing a spotlight and turret to fact down at the raiders just south of it proved to be cool and realistic in a way. an enemy that could attack at any one given time, a searchlight that helped the turret feel more realistic as well as aiding other settlers to see the enemy better having the small area turned into a mini community just felt so nice just to know i could push the boundries of realism onto a game that doesnt really have that. i would even go as far as if i could loot something or lured something i had killed into the workshop area and killed it, i can then take that loot and use it only at that place. so if i found i gun and could make a gun station (cant remember its name), then i would modify the guns and give it to the settlers or take theres to modify then give it back. give them ammo and all that. only thing i werent to sure weather to do was exploit their inventories everytime it refreshed as it was free items. i think i left it out in the end. the other place i loved building at was red rocket due to the garage door really. having an attack take place and i just open a garage door to a firing line of turrets and a person on a post, closing the red rocket doors and having that square area was just easy to build. finally 1 from fallout 76 was the food processing plant. i spent god amounts of hours just building there using the area where the hooks were left of the conveyor belts, in the corner, as a small bar area, blocking off and locking and also making every door i could inacsessable to players unless they chose to break it or get a bounty on them, the free non radiated food was lovely a clean bed to get the well rested perk helped in handy, more than enough room on the roof and inside the farm silo's and main building to put down workshop equipment and the access to the free junk piles u can use outside was just near perfect. 2 honorable mentions for 76 though is the red rocket top right of the map and finally the race track. both medium to big areas with both inside and outside building accessability which i was a fan of, u could hide wires and stuff just by putting them ontop the surrounding fence which wasnt an eyesore and on the stand wall if it decided not to work properly having all types of decent variations of junk and lighting up the area on the race track and having the middle of it as a way to just farm or have a lil outside building fort of some sort or even main area was nice. even though it was hard in my opinion to build stuff inside the main building, i did prefer the fact i could hide the connectors on the roof and make it so it goes around the cieling and throught the door contiuing to the wall before reaching down behind the far wall of the main building which aided in lighting the area using the pole fences.
I honestly love building at Zimonja, Jamaica Plain, Murkwater and Coastal Cottage because of the challenge to tinker your way around obstacles and ruins. For the same reason I can get lost in building up Hangman's Alley, Croup Manor and Echo Lake😅
Genuinely I think Sanctuary is a really bad settlement, it's a pretty large area with a lot of things to scrap for supplies, but it's found too early on for anyone to make use of it, so unless you go back and specifically want to build it up (good luck as most of the houses are unscrappable and even if you can, you can't build that looks like the unscrappable houses) most peoples's sanctuaries look the same, with the same annoying NPCs that we all avoid for the far more interesting factions and their settlements.
Drumlin's Dinner and Starlight Drive In. Here is the reason why 1. Raiders operate out of Covaga Assembly Plant and Olivia Outpost and they can respawn. 2. Both settlements are next to the National Guard Depot which is Gunners HQ so the first wave will be Raiders from Covaga after you clean it out the second wave will be Gunners. and 3 both settlements are close to places where dangerous Wasteland trash spawn close to the settlement you have to deal with Ghouls, Muties, Robots, and dangerous critters. There is a Guai Den by Jarbert Brothers Disposal and they always head towards Starlight if you do Getting a Clue or On the Trail. Mole Rats and Mirelurks live nearby and since the settlement is close to Concord there is a Deathclaw den nearby so watch out for them.
Even with the Cheat terminal free mod, Some of these places are hard to build a bass of operations onto. Had to use a tone of Barn structure materials to make any uneven settlement worth Deffendable.
Using this video to determine where to send Marcy Long
Yooran 😂
Yooran lol I built a three story building on top of The Slog’s stone building (using ladders to access) so I’m unsure why he said this is so bad. I suggest sending her there
yes good idea thank you
always my first provisioner
Yooran i literally Wallet past her, And i just got A rude ”WHaT MaKES yOU THinK We Are FRiEnDS”
what happens if you sue Preston for harassment? he'll offer you a settlement
Get out.
LegendPlays Stay.
Best comment of the week.
LegendPlays you sir win the internet
LegendPlays try me! >:D
6:16 Liberty Prime just... doing his thing in the background.
Chris it would be hilarious if he sometimes wandered into the settlement area and could actually be assigned. “Hey LP, could you farm those crops for me?” 🤣🤣🤣🤣
carlos Morales I think by lP he means liberty prime
He vibin
U Gey
@@GamingIncMasterTroll uno reverse card
you know who complains about settlement building in fallout 4? a synth...
"That's just what a commie spy would say! smug bastards..."
"Shut up you communist synth."
Vincent D'Andrea xD
*DOES SOMEBODY NEED THEIR ASS KICKED?!?!?!*
"I was tracking your approach.. Impressive. *FOR A LOWLIFE CRIMINAL!!!!*"
murkwater is the best settlement to have if your doing a shrek build or for sending strong there and pretend hes a ogre/shrek
or for saying that famous quote GET OUT OF MY SWAMP
Or just kicking him out, cause he’s hating on you just for using power armor.
The only reason murkwater is horrible is because to clear it, u need to kill a mirelurk queen, when you need to defend it (in my experience) you have to kill a mirelurk queen
Mirkwater is my prison settlement. I always seem to get a few slackers who won't farm the crops I assigned them to.(I think it's a bug with Abernathy Farm, it seems to happen most often there.) Or worse, don't understand that my bed is MY BED.
Off to the swamps with them.
A swamp settlement for strong great idea he should feel at home
*WHAT ARE YOU DOING IN MY SWAMP?*
I love how settlers do live in coastal cottage, when there's makhra fishpacking not that far off which should be like a damn fortress.
Kinda sad makrha can’t be a settlement of some kind. Imagine making it a giant trade hub.
@@googlesearchhistory5249 rain, attackers, and living space wouldn't be an issue. Ok, there's the smell, but otherwise it's fine
Probably smells worse than a landfill, plus synths love the spot.
That area isn't sustainable. Apart from the fact that it was a raider stronghold already makes it a bad area, then added to the fact of how close it is to the sea. After a couple decades that area will fall into the ocean due to erosion, and also the fact that synths turn it into a stronghold.
@@CDTyphol sure, but it's more sustainable than coastal cottage, which is a literal hole in the ground with no protection from outside attacks, no cover from the elements or even proper ground to build on.
When you can build physics breaking tower, but can't fix a bloody car
RoboDoc mods: I’m i a joke to u
It's Bethesdas. I WANT TO WATCH THEM BURN AND SUFFER UNTIL THEY FALL DOWN INTO THE 🔥FIRE🔥 PITS OF HELLLLL! ooopppsyyy! sorry every time I her the shunned name I fall into an unstable fit if rage.
@space cowboy#2 fucking big brain
The Slog is awesome. It's unique and one of my favorites. The land is mostly flat. There is plenty of room for crops and building and water purifiers in the pool.
Yeah, the Slog is one of my main settlements to improve.
One of the very few I don't cleanse.
Yea very easy to build just knock out the shitty fencing and make the concreted area sealed off with a door to their crops. Easy enough to block off the entrance to their building so it only has the pool entrance which is now your building with easy access to water if you get rid of the cranberries
I build on the roof
I hate the Croup Manor Settlement. Before discovering the location, you think "Hey! I could use this Mansion and make an awesome house!" Only to discover its useless because of how damaged it is.
It really sucks that you can't restore any of the damaged buildings. I can make a generator out of scrap, but I can't patch a hole in the roof?
Agreed, It confuses me when the only way to patch holes in houses is through a glitch or a mod.. It should be a basic ability. And don't get me started on those shitty Sanctuary Hills houses that you can't do shit with.
Etor Christie I made that into a very big nice base and it is currently one of my strongest settlements
Its possible, yes but you can't deny its condition.
you can on pc :D just stick a wall in the hole for fuck sake
No Hangman’s Alley? That place is small and half of it cannot be reach by settlers because of pathing.
It's small but easy to build vertically and it's positioned really well near diamond city, for survival runs it's great. Also because you can't fast travel in suvival mode, but you can use the institute teleporter, the CIT ruins are right by hangmans alley which allows for very easy access. Not saying it's perfect but i use it quite a lot and wouldn't put in even close to the ones on this list.
You can also glitch the basic water pumps so that you can build them inside the walls of the surrounding building. As for settlement security, create a staircase going up to about the second story area. Build a floating walkway around the entrances, place turrets on the walkways and then scrap the walkways. The turrets (and Generators work for this too) will remain floating in the air and leaving you plenty of space to work around to build housing etc.
That makes the those areas off-limits to the settlers... good for a player home if you want to keep the settlers from stealing your stuff
I have to pull teeth to get cows for all the farm settlements, but three show up in Hangman's Alley..............
Hangman's Alley is the best settlement by my books. With the scaffolding, I have nice floor space, 8 different shacks, and 14 sellers. Extra food, defence, and water. ~90 happiness.
the Jamaica plain settlement was a let down but with expanded settlement borders you get the whole town with no respawning ghouls
sarge absolutely. and to make things even worse, the build height there is pathetic so you can't even build yourself a nice towering house! well ok you can just not a very big one
Michael Murdoch, settlement hight 9k mod
sarge thanks for the tip
the boarder mod i mentioned i was only able to find for PS4 but im guessing he'll make it for xbox one and pc soon
I have a mod call new and expanded areas and scrapping which expands out the build wall area and things that can be scrapped is that the one you were speaking of
The “Scrap Everything” mod made some of these my favorite places to build. Outpost Z is what I usually turn in to a faction outpost with crazy defenses, nuclear power, and a vertibird landing pad. If you haven’t tried mods yet just get the most recent of Scrap Everything and it’ll make settlement building way more fun for you. You can even scrap the roads in Sanctuary or the dirty rubble and trash you find on the ground to make things look more clean/tidy. Combine it with the expanded settlement mods that are out there and you can even make Jamaica Plain in to a small town with much more room to build on.
Fair warning though to add onto that statement, the scrap everything mod is not compatible with clean and smooth mods that basically do all the scrapping for you and then some
Which mod do you recommend to collect trash?
I use ps4 and I not really into using mods cause you know, mods. -.-
@@atonical_ftw I use ps4 and I have that mod. Not really sure what you were trying to say.
Another mod to get that makes Jamaica Plain pretty awesome is the Snappy HouseKit mod. That one basically adds in all the tiles for pretty much every type of base building in the game, including the ruined ones in Jamaica plain. Heck, I used it to turn the broken down brick structure the workshop is located at into a 3-storey apartment building with roof access & a bunch of heavy laser turrets & a minuteman artillery piece on the roof. Using the same mod, I also completely restored the house next to it. Have plans to scrap the useless house & replace it with something that looks sorta similar but is actually usable.
Slog - build a stairway, get on the roof, there's plenty of room to build.
The slog is an amazing export for food
@@crouchinglibcrab9527 and water purifiers the slog is probably one of the top 3 settlements
@@aelfredhauscarl I don't like to mess with their berry farm operation thing. Water for my settlements comes from the Fort and the Taffington Boathouse
OH MY GOD THANK YOU I NEVER THOUGHT OF THAT
I like the Slog, actually.
Man i was disappointed in Jamaica Plain settlement had so much potential to be a big city town or a fortress in design, Murkwater to me feels like a Railroad outpost for some ungodly reason.
Damian Lockheart same here fam
Damian Lockheart I glitched a new house into the destroyed one at Murkwater, then put up a wall through the pond and lined it with missile turrets so every time I go there I get some free and easy mirelurk queen meat
Damian Lockheart I made Murkwater into the Commonwealth's main water plant
steven saunders how?
Sanityangel _0310 I just built a crap ton of water purifiers. purified water will appear in the workbench and you can sell it for caps
Before I realized that you could scrap the radioactive barrels in the Drive In, my settlers would walk past it and collapse. I don't know if they died, but it was really annoying having a nice big flat area for a settlement with a very radioactive pool in the middle. If you suck it up and scrap the barrels in the pond then everything is groovy.
Vince Lok There are Settlement Needs Your help I'll mark on your map
LOL, I keep thinking ... uh yeah, that's why I built like 10 automatic cannon thingies there, but OK, sure, I'll just run the 500 miles back to that town, hoping the raiders will wait for me to show up before they attack.
I remember that pool.. It was like bethesda was mocking us with the fact that building around things can be such a pain. Ohh, what is that? An entirely flat open field? Ohh. oops.. I dropped something
Same dude. Played through the game like 3 times before I realized that.
I literally just scrapped those yesterday on accident. I hover over them from like 20 feet.
I would substitute The Slog, with Hangman's Alley. The Slog is an awesome build site, easily defended. Hangman's Alley has a narrow area to build in, not much good ground for planting, and existing wires that limit the ability to build raised structures.
Hangman's alley is the survival default though cause of its location
I love hangmans alley, good location, it’s easy to fill up and build something that looks live able without wide open unfilled spaces, easy to build up, access to rooftops and super easy to defend, you can even make a basketball court
Hangman's Alley is one of the prime settlements for Survival Mode due to it's more central location. Honestly, if I wasn't so in love with my Red Rocket Station set up, I'd consider moving my main base of operations there because it is easier to get back and forth to locations from there.
Hangman alley is so dope. If you build vertically you can make it look urban and cool and pack a bunch of people in it. But it does get raided often.
@@givemeajackson 200 yards further you have diamond city other then the load screen its fine. Also covenant is better for a nothern base provided you do that quest.
Personally, I hate Finch's Farm the most. There's raiders on one side, super mutants on the other, and an assaultron is usually lurking around the road as well. That's in addition to the uneven ground and limited building options.
Paul East
Build on top of the broken freeway. Same thing with Graygarden.
Finch Farm has one of the highest build limits in the game, right alongside Greygarden. Go up to the freeway and no problem. Although getting your settlers to actually go up there can be difficult at times.
I know this isn't a common complaint, but I hated that the NPC's there weren't essential. They're part of a quest and named, and I like having named settlers.
Including the stair monstrosity you have to build to get up to the freeway..
@@gakudzu7282 yep. I use a friggin huge long stairway and enclose the base of the stairway in a defended security enclosure.
I sent preston garvey to mechanists lair and delwted automatron.
He disappeared forever
That's a clever way of dealing with that particular annoyance. :)
Smart!
I was the 111th like
@@Gotobar I was the 168 like.
*I guide others to a treasure I cannot posses*
@@zyxluz4645 I was the 169th like
One thing i hate about the settlements is when you put all the defenses in place a message comes up. Help defend this place. I have 25 people at egret tours marina and they need my help. Why? When i get there everyone is hiding.or they say yes. I didnt bother with hangman's alley or finch farm
I have fast travel mats in front of all my workbenches. When the attack happens when I show up, I just clean out the workbench check the Vault Tech terminal I put next to the workbench while the turrets are doing their stuff, then loot the bodies and repair stuff that got damaged. Now that I have the Tidy Bot mod I can just leave and all the loot from the attack will be in a box when I pop back in.
How did you get 25 settlers? I cant get more than 19?
@@mcj2219 Every settlements can get 10 settlers plus your charisma level. So max is technically 21, 10 in charisma plus the bobble-head. To get 25 you need to wear clothes that boost charisma or take chems.
Dylan Narendra that’s all you have to do? Wear clothes and take mental sand all of a sudden every settlement will have 21 people?
@@mcj2219 settlers can be robots or companions
Two words, concrete foundation.
I use scaffolding myself.
Sanctuary hills is great
Yep, every settlement I build is a brutalist nightmare (I'm still on vanilla, and always really poor, so what are ya gonna do?), and building up is the answer to all of these (even though it's a huge pain sometimes (and yeah, I'm late).
@@Synicizm Problem with vanilla is that you can't carry much junk so you need to do a lot of short runs.
Just loot every building in your way while discovering the map.
@@damnsonwheredyoufindthis.3830 This is so true. I have agi and str maxed, plus all the action girl and strong back perk points, so it's not too bad at all to hoard now, but the beginning was rough. It'll be time to start a new character soon, so rinse and repeat. After I get through all the endings, though, I'm modding this game to death (hopefully not literally), so I'll have to see what's out there =)
Preston Garvey: "Hold that thought General! Another settlement needs your help. Here let me mark it on your map."
my reaction to all of these:
IS THAT A CHALLENGE
I challenge this every play through. Costal cottage is my main settlement for all my characters
I mad an elevated floor in Zimonja and built upwards.
My thought through this entire video was pretty much just "stilts". In one of my playthroughs I built a huge elevated pyramid covering almost the entire area of the murkwater site - way larger than any settlement has an actual use for. Mirelurk queen spawns underneath it and immediately gets blasted by a bunch of turrets.
I recently build a huge settlement at tenpinesbluff, it’s fun to Build at “terrible” settlement locations :)
Yes
Use the Mechanist Lair to connect to all settlements with robot convoys, that's all you need it for. Frees up the other settlements and its always funny to follow them and watch the mayhem as they keep the major paths and highways cleared. I love watching several of my robots ganging up on random Behemoths and Deathclaws.
It's a good idea if you want to build robots but don't want to deal with them dragging down the satisfaction in your settlements.
Never thought of it, might as well try
One of the things i love about the Automatron DLC.
Thomas Willoughby
I did the same thing, I also used the Boston Airport as a robot patrol area so I have many robots from the lair and airport both on patrol.. only problem is if a robot accidentally goes too close to the brotherhood base... it will become a full all out war... my robots had brotherhood guts everywhere it was disgusting but hilarious! I was like OH NO!! One or the other will open fire on eachother if a robot goes into the Brotherhood gates.... My robots annihilated them fast made short work of them...and I'm allied with them... but it didn't affect me in any way..
In this video: a list of really good settlements where you can do a lot of the things the video says you can't without mods or console commands.
Do a video on locations that would make the best settlements but aren't available.
It would be great for Bethesda to release a mod that are the 10 player requested settlements that didn't interfere with the trophy aspect. For me a tactile move would be to inhabit Raider camps so they cant get another foot hold. Just seems like common sense. Plus there are some wide spaces between settlements on the supply line where it felt like there should have been a settlement.
There is a mod you can download for that...called the conquest mod and it is on consoles as well
Nelson the drive in theater in Far Harbor... it actually works and I spent a sad amount of time looking for a workbench... but no such luck. I might do something there with mods later on.
University point
I always wanted to make College Square great again, after clearing all the ghouls. I'm thinking there are already built up defenses by the BoS in which would be the entrance to a big Trader's paradise, you know kinda like a better Bunker Hill, but for that the building limit would be really big cause you'd need to build walls all around the area and its huge.
I'm Preston Garvey and I get off to settlements
Gamerpoop much? I can't believe we've got some sucker...I mean loyal Minuteman supporting our cause
Artydomi Home Plate is gawd awful
Joyless Twat It really is. I bought it my first play through and was like, what's the point of buying a house when you can build one?
Did he say president garvey?
+Darth Wefee i thought he said that to lol
How is Hangman’s alley not on this list?
Agreed
Hangman's Alley is pretty elite on Survival difficulty
And the city’s people build are cool since they need to build up not down
Hangman alley is my go to! I've built that place up to be a great intercity getaway
Do you realize on survival how crucial it is having hangman’s alley? Linking all your settlements to that location with diamond city a rock toss away? And not for nothing but I fit a 3 story hotel in there lol.
Here is the Solution to all your settlement problems, Download the mod: Scrap everything.
Oliver F. I did that and I used a few other mods and turned just about all 8 of these settlements into great settlements, except tenplines bluff, that I basically turned into a death camp for settlers to fight deathclaws
Oliver F. YES that’s how I made Red Rocket a amazing 12 story settlement
I just use tenplines bluff as testing settlement
thats cheating
I tried and I kept accidentally scrapping roads in Sanctuary
For The Slog, I built stairs and started building on top of the structure.
Same, I started a new game just to re-do my settlements and have them all elevated, it makes for really interesting good-looking builds.
you can build at the side also
I snipe that deathclaw across the river from up there.
john marks build tourets on the roof
I used the concrete base for the barn and built 4 pillars in the pool, so that the tarberries were still accessible, then built a 3 story barn above the pool. It worked out pretty well.
Several of the settlements mentioned I didn't have a problem with; comes down to a matter of taste and personal vision of your play through
Only bad ones are the ones that stop certain elements from being built like the airport or mechanist lair. Every other base is a blank slate you can build anything on
5:00
Dude that makes the Slog better!
Nothin’ like a Brotherhood patrio, a bunch of strong settlers, the Forged, Gunners, and me in an all out brawl haha.
I’m laughing so hard right now cause I knew what you’d pick as No 1 & it’s the one I’ve chosen for my actual player home. Not a settlement but just a place for me, myself & I. Cause I don’t want no Npcs bothering me.
tenpines bluff and outpost zimonja are literally my favourites, i love that tenpines is small and i love the existing structures, i kept it like a small farm, but i had no problem turning outpost zimonja into a 20 person behemoth with massive ramshackle skyscrapers, connected by a bridge, built on and around the existing structures.
First time I got sent to Coastal Cottage I was hoping for a single home I’d be able to turn into a seaside player home
Luckily, we have mods for most of that now. XD
The premade beds can also bug you out, always scrap or delete them if you can!
Without mods, the Mech Lair is mostly just good for a central hub for robot supply lines to each settlement.
You left out that at Outpost Z. one of the enemy spawn points moves with the welcome mat spawn point.
There is construction equipment by coastal cottage, for cement bags, they respawn, and a room under the bridge that has scrap too sometimes. Not to mention there is a shop right next to it. Once you get mods to scrap the garbage, it's not that bad.
For me, the worst is possibly Jamaica Plains, next time I will scrap that useless house... The main reason that one is so small is that the lag for that area is bad, but it was the most disappointing because of that the first time, not to mention the low build height, like Hangman's ally. Hangman's Ally is also very disappointing, the low build height, and the fact that the settlers won't use half of the area that is there...
But the one that that upset me the most in vanilla was Croup Manor, all of that water you could not use and dead ghouls and skeletons that would move back after you dragged them out, getting them stuck inside what you built (before we had mods to scrap them), made it torture. It took SO long to drag them out just to have them move back when you left!
>The premade beds can also bug you out, always scrap or delete them if you can!
He says he can't. Which is odd because I can. I wonder if it's because he's playing the Xbox version.
Hangman's Alley. Its soo narrow and unless you mod, you can't use the apartments around you.
Yep, I don't use Hangman's Alley unless asked by The Railroad to set up a base/safehouse there. Too close to town and Supermutants and needs strong defenses.
Dude, build a stair way to the apartment roofs, there a lot of space up there.
A stairway....to HEAVEN? lol
I find that since Hang mans alley is so small and narrow it's really easy to defend. I just put up a few turrets on the entrances and a vertical building at the center for my settlers.
Francis & Jessica Boucher That was my main base since it was in the middle of the map. Pretty easy to defend too since it naturally chokes enemies with the narrow paths. Only issue I could see someone having is if they have a desire to build something big and extravagant.
*Why waste your time watching this video* _when you can help other settlement, here I will mark it on your map_
"Okay Preston"
@@Ethan-oe8vn ok eathean
Main thing I do not like about settlements is how close the spawn points are for enemies. Most spawn within the border of the build area. The other part is how a settlement gets raided and loses even though I have the defences way up and the settlers VERY well armed and armored.
Sight Beyond Sight yeah, those mechanics are fucked up. especially as the actual attacker spawns are moved in a direct path closer to the workshop in relation to your travel time without accounting for any settlement structures if you aren't in the settlement already when it's attacked...
So even though you build an almost impenetrable fortress, if you have a long way to get there, the enemies will spawn into the world cell way inside those defences as if they were institute synths teleporting in...
Yea but patches fixed settlements losing all the time a long while ago. It's up to you to build a settlement properly enough to survive. AKA def over 200 is always a good idea.
Thankfully, we now have mods for that too.
Settlement Attacks Beyond
www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/12892/?
It can't help you with all of them, like the Outpost Zimonja one that moves with your spawn/welcome mat, but it takes care of most problems.
Thunder, Thunder, Thundercats ...HOOOOOOOOO!
Missed this mod. Thanks!!
Glad to help. Good luck, just be careful and don't try the scrapall command with it... ;)
I always use the mechanist's lair as a bot building location and use the robots as my caravan/provision people. It works well.
I’m surprised Hangman’s Alley and Covenant aren’t on here. I love those settlements but they’re poorly made.
Hangman's Alley is awesome, you can build WAY up, choke out all sunlight on the ground level and still sustain crops. You gotta be creative. Just NEVER unlock that front gate.
About a third of Hangman's Alley is off limits to settlers. There is some kind of invisible wall they won't pass. Of course this is also the area where I would put most of my crops.
It's small but easy to build vertically and it's positioned really well near diamond city, for survival runs it's great. Also because you can't fast travel in suvival mode, but you can use the institute teleporter, the CIT ruins are right by hangmans alley which allows for very easy access. Not saying it's perfect but i use it quite a lot and wouldn't put in even close to the ones on this list.
@@christopherconard2831 Use Flower pots and planter boxes. Off Limit/no access areas you build your Trophy Rooms for Rare and Unique items. The only way in is the build menu, Move or Store the Walls to get in. Turn it into a trade market, salvage, and manufacture settlement. Build UP!
@@abelsabrowsky4470 i just put a inmoveable fence block the door on both sides of the door sure the door can open but you cant pass through nor can raiders and my bottom floor is turrets traps and people.
who is disappointed when nuka world has one settlement
At least far harbor gave us three good ones to work with.
the luckless lime wtf even is the settlement
The Chosen Moose a red rocket but at least its large and don't have to scrap much but has some cool wall design inside
the Nuka world it self should be able to turn into settlement
:(
Little Sunflower or that small town you find just at the end of the map
Personally the worst for me is vault 88 because it is easy to build rescources, but it has a mire lurk queen rad scorpions, a deathclaw, and lackluster space in the main room for an actual vault
Concrete buildings made building settlements easier and a lot better for defenses to wreck anyone dumb enough to try and attack it. My first slog had 2 story walls with 3 missile, 2 heavy laser, and 2 machine gun turrets aimed at the raider settlement nearby. I used to take potshots at the raiders and watch them make a suicide charge against me. Way to easy.
I like to fix the Castle walls and use the electric sliding door, so during the "defend the Castle" quest against the institute, I can relax, have a nuka cola, and watch my turrets and heavy settlers rip some coursers and chrome-domes a new asshole. Not to mention having between 5 and 10 artillery pieces active at Spectacle all at once. I build the Castle and Spectacle island as to support each other. The Castle guards take potshots at anyone of ill-intent trying to swim towards Spectacle island, who has their own turret system, and Spectacle Island has many artillery pieces to rain hell on any ne'er do-well's who try to invade the castle. Not to mention the Castle's own artillery, and all the turrets, including a vast AA system using the turret workshop pack's minigun turrets, plasma spinner turrets and EMP missile turrets.
The main gate also has a single fat man turret perched on a tall scaffold to lay down the law on any insignificant shitter who thinks they can take on a 100% happiness settlement with nearly 300 defense and many, MANY power armor units with big ass guns (gatling lasers and miniguns galore. Also, some missile launchers). The Castle was the pinnacle of minutemen engineering, lost to file corruption due to power outage when I was loading the game. damn electrical storms. oh well, at least I can remember. I wish I had footage of the synth attack, but the only thing I have is a video of a single, insignificant, dumbass ghoul that tried his luck. Sadly, before the big guns were installed. His clock still got cleaned.
Jamaica plain goes straight to my number one spot simply because of how disappointing it was just to get that small slice of real estate after clearing the entire town. But besides that I think you're right on the money. I was role playing a world where the Commonwealth settlements become very militarized and create a coalition. Coastal cottage and Murck water are probably the only settlements were I don't have anyone there or even guards. Nor even a supply line. I literally just made a prefab metal house and tossed a bed and some crafting stuff in there for when I'm near them doing quests. So of anything at least they are locations for my safe houses
Definitely my top three worst settlements are
Murkwater
Boston ap
Hangmans alley
Hangman has a great location and everything important can be built there. Really not sure why a lot of people seem to hate it.
@@intimidatingloli2212 for me its because of how narrow hangman is i get that you can add floors but that still only take you so far even with build mods
@13477 54У33 It is *THE* place to dump all Junk & Aid in the workbench form all other settlements. In that way their scavengers are more efective. Everytime you visit a settlement go to workbench, "take all", and dump it in Boston AP.
I play with a mod which enables me to clear most of the rubble in game. I like to have empty space, not only for building but also for defense (enemies will have quite a hard time getting through the clearing surrounding your turret tower ... Your list practically corresponds to the list of those which I just conquer and leave empty (just a trading post, some turrets, maybe a robot inhabitant, which is really a provisoner and that's all. Easy defense is one of my main arguments really.
My shitelist:
1. Hangman's Alley - buggy, very limited space (but serves as a great provisoner hub)
2. Jamaica plain - pretty well explained in the video. It makes me extremely nervous all those buildings around, with all the corners enemies could be hiding.
3. Murky Wastewater or whatever - trees all around for enemies to hide, really UGLY surroundings (in comparison with some astounding views in other locations I really don't have any reason to want to come here); also, it is southeast on the map, so in the area which you generally visit pretty late
4. Covenant - I don't have a mind of serial killer to like to eradicate all original population. Very limited building space (also height limit is annoyingly low); on the other side it is really beautiful
5. (without the mod) Tenpines Bluff - the non scrapable shack is in the direction where the enemy spawnpoint is so it is in the way. If I can scrap the shack and build a decent house there it becomes quite nice, with wonderful views and (due to being built on the edge of a slope) quite an easy defendable settlement.
6. Boston airport - just makes no sense. Makes me mad not being able to build a purifier with water all around. And you loose control if you turn your back on BOS (Yes I did it, stone me, OK? In my defense I can tell you I cried)
7. Bunker hill - although nice, there are just too many complications having a settlement here. Being among the houses efficient defense is difficult. Annoys me that the obelisk is a great point of height but cannot be put to good use for defense.
8. Graygarden - just too many robots so it's hard to mantain decent happines rating; otherwise a nice settlement
I like Coastal cottage; I scrap pretty much everything, move the bench, fill the cave with concrete and build quite easily defendable settlement. Near the sea, really beutiful.
The Slog is essential for me, as it is a source of Tarberries - to make detect life potion. I actually like the building - there is enough space for all the settlement to sleep inside, and I usually build additional structures of the settlement on the roof. Regarding nearby enemy posts: I arm my settlers quite well. It's a treat to see when twenty of them storm Saugus or incoming Gunners in full combat armor and armed with max modded plasmas, miniguns and handnmade rifles.
But I really love Finch farm. When you build the stairs (or elevator) up to the highway you take out any enemy vermin with ease from height. Plus, you can play a sniper both on Gunners on the north and mutants on the south. The satelite array mutant suicider is a permanent source of mininukes.
The settlem
Most of these settlements aren't really that bad to be fair. Coastal is a bad one in the beginning but using assets like scaffolding and pillars it's a rather unique place just like Jamica Plains and Murkwater. Murkwater is awesome for water production and you can make it really feel like a ramshackled early settlement using the junk fences and wood structures and walkways. Coastal and Jamica are the same just require a bit more creativity. Also Jamica has no problems with planting food even outside of using plots. Just plant in the road behind the house and the small area of dirt between the house and parking lot. I had enough food planted in these areas to feed 20 settlers (using just Corn and Carrots) and never used the parking lot area to do so. Only noobs need giant build spaces to make a good settlement. :p
you need the dlc that lets you build concrete structures.
i turned murkwater construction site into a fortress, 4X4 foundation, two purifiers below ground level, fusion reactors on ground level, second floor isn'T very usefull because you have to omit a lot of floor space to fit the reactors into the level below, third floor is where my settlers sleep, fourth floor has windows with guard posts, roof has turrets and an artilery piece.
Hangman's Alley isnt #1?
It has quite a low build ceiling, actually. It's still an easy settlement to max Happiness, though. I did it with 5 Bars, 2 farmers, and 1 guard.
Super easy to defend, as well. Most attackers spawn inside the narrow entrance near the riverfront. Place a fence across the alley a few feet inside the entrance, with turrets firing down from above.
I have made Hangmans Alley Strong's home in my game lol
it can be tricky to build a working settlement there i give you that, but it is a useful location, with it being in the middle of the city, and if you are clever enough you can build it in a way that allows you to get on the surrounding rooftops, which will greately improove your mobillity, especially if you have a jet pack.
also remember to build your artilery pieces on top of concrete towers there so the guys there don't just keep shelling the wall next to them.
Warden Leo I HATE Hangman’s Alley and I almost never build there. Even more true as my Fallout 4 doesn’t like to work anymore
Tenpines has always been the bane of my existence. Great video.
One more thing, this is the reason there are supply lines in case you can't plant crops, build a Water purified, or don't have enough scrappable resources.
Me: *places tons of missile turrets in the slog with 500 defense*
Also Me: HAVE AT ME!
I build flat topped settler dorms and market areas all pointed towards Saugas then load them up with missles and heavy lasers and of course artillery because its fun to rain hell down on the Forged 😈😈😈😈
I do the same. Seems whenever I go there, I'll go inside and all of a sudden the missile launchers are raining down holy hell on some poor bastards.
I'm glad that some of the problems that you mentioned have been taken care of! I have made settlements in all of the places you've talked about and I enjoy the challenge of small, odd spaces! I'm not especially fond of large areas because they can become unwieldy when building and keeping track of! With Spectacle Island I blocked off half the island with concrete walls and only built on one side!
With my third or forth playthrough, I used console commands to scrap everything and the "clean and smooth" mods on some of the places. That was fun to see how different these were to work with! Great vid! Thankyou!
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"I forgot General. Another settlement needs our help. Here I've marked it on your map."
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I never really thought the slog was all that bad and you can actually build stuff on the side of the main building.
Most of these settlements though are ones where when I play they end up getting a bunch of turrets, an artillery piece and a robot to operate the artillery and I don't try to build them up to populated places.
I consider Hangman Alley to the worst in my opinion. It's cramped, has one hut you can't scrap and you can't really build really high structures.
BBBHuey its your opinion i really like hangmans alley
Tyler Butschli It's not THAT terrible, I'll admit. But it is still awfully cramped compared to every other settlement.
It sure is crampy, but on the other hand, it's well fortified and it's in the middle of Boston. You can easily turn it into a effective refuge.
I'm surprised that Hangman's Ally was not in this chart.
besides the bed part, I really like the slog.I used it for the raiders for the pack(I have nuka world dlc) and it's pretty good
Tenpines Bluff is awesome. If you build your structures along the perimeter with your farm as the center piece there's plenty of room for whatever you need and the buildings act as a defensive wall. I love the little stone walls. I wish they were an item you could build. I might make that a mod.
Jamaica Plain is cool too, except the build limit sucks. There is plenty of places to plant crops for 30+ settlers. Mirelurk Construction is ok. The two buildings suck, but there's plenty of places for water purifiers.
I don't know why you keep talking about limited supplies. Why anyone would bother with settlements and not have provisioners is beyond me.
Hangman's Alley, Croupe Manor, and Home Run should be on this list. Also, Kingsport Lighthouse isn't that great due to low build area.
I plan to put two towers there ion Tenpines, and have that be the entrance gate. go down to the basement, and up to the living area. If you are on pc, you can console those walls in. They need a clone tool.
I never linked any settlement and always had enough supplies. People are just lazy.
IIRC you can build out over the water at Kingsport. So why not attach some platforms and have a dock village?
I have this habit of picking up EVERYTHING, so yeah...I can get by fine without supply lines but man does it make it easy. Especially once you link up Vault 88 and the metric assload of salvage in there.
So here's what u did with all of these settlements... having the "scrap anything help a lot with this: I turned tenplines bluff into a death trap for settlers I didn't like to fight deathclaws.. outpost zimonja I turned into my own personal little hideaway for me and my lover companion.. the slog turned out to be a place where I sent most of my ghoul companions that didn't fit in, I also built onto the roof of the building.. Boston airport has a synth clone of my pre-war spouse along with a protectron, I used a mod that gave me large stone structures to build and is still a work in progress.. the mechanists lair is a place I am currently keeping a bunch of mr handys I constructed that I will be using for supply lines.. Jamaica plain ended up having broken build area and I only had half of the inaccessible house and parking area, yet I have a couple living there as it being a fully functional player home.. mirelurk construction site ended up being one of my main settlements, using wooden hallway ends and scaffolding to make mini apartments.. costal cottage ended up being my largest and main settlement, Using the mod "Homemaker" and "scrap anything," I scrapped the destroyed house and built a large building atop the hole with a main front room with vendors, a side room with generators, and a back room bar with a kitchen behind it, and an upstairs being the bedrooms.. the mod called "northland diggers" gave me a lot of things to assign my settlers, and accumulating more resources. I also use a place in red mod to allow me to place anywhere
*Players:* _Wow, University Point would make a great place to settle down, it's already pretty much set up._
*Bethesda:* _Best I can do is this hole in the ground._
To be honest I love these difficult to build settlements as it makes you think outside the box and it ends up being way more unique than some basic designs
I now wondering if you like Murkwater why don't you send Strong there to make a Shrek.
I killed the settlers at the first settlement by accident... I realised it was a good thing afterwards
I got tired of settlement help requests... so I shut off the castle tower, either shot or moved the last settlements somewhere more convenient, then I moved preston to some random location where I opened a workbench.. I don't even remember which one
The slog is one of my favorites. It is a water production and vendor haven.
Its funny that these are among my favorite settlements.
Jmakea plane in my cem den
I made the Slog a prison for Marcy Long and Jun Long. MISERABLE
Murkwater Construction Site is one of my favorite settlements to build at, I start my building there by framing in the existing destroyed shack with concrete walls, which becomes my quarters, and then I build a 3 storey fortress on top of that with concrete flooring, I turn it into a Minutemen headquarters, and I start my settlement building at: Abernathy Farm,Tempines Bluff, Outpost Zimonja, Egret Tours Marina, Finch Farm, Greentop Nursery, National Park visitor's center, all where and existing piece of flooring is that can be snapped to
Worst ever settlement is got to be home plate it is the most restricted,smallest,and most expensive(2000 caps) place in all of the common wealth and it looks like shit on the inside
FaZeDragon 173 no it’s not stfu wym? And no you can link it
There’s ways to improve it
smallest? oh yeah? c o s t a l c o t t a g e
Actually coastal cottage is bigger and with a bit of creativity you can make a very cool settlement. With home plate however there is just no room to get that creativity In.
If your talking about mods yeah they do improve home plate but the mods build the place for you and there's no fun in it no fun in building a settlement for your self.
I used Boston airport for a main base, it was perfect as a pit stop, I can just fast travel to pridwin grab ammo and sell stuff Hop down to my main base (if I had power Armor On) drop off anything not sold, stock up on nades and other genaral stuff like switching out weapons, then be on my way and if I wanted a settlement near by I can just walk over to nordhagen beach if needed
I have to say this outpost z is one of my favorite settlements my favorite being my personal home the red rocket
With Outpost Zimonja, I do what a call "Trumping" my settlements. I start by building a wall around my settlements. Give it a door and leave one area exposed. The way I have mine set up, I put a wooden structure in the open gap and filled one side in with a concrete floor and kept stacking it. The other side has a large guard outpost with enough walking room for a Brahmin, but has 2 spotlights beaming their light in the eyes of anyone coming from that direction (not sure if it works that way)
In order to keep the walls level I use the concrete floors in the wooden section just so I can put wooden walls on top of them and then delete some of the unneeded concrete while keeping the walls in the same place they were. After that I just built onto the preexisting structures and added a roof/floor where I built a large metal structure and stacked a large wooden structure on top of it wit a couple ladders leading to it.
Then add some turrets, water pumps, some crops, establish some supply lines to Tenpines, Starlight, Red Rocket, Abernathy and Sanctuary and arm all your settlers with some good armor and guns and no more than 5 settlers with miniguns and you got a typical settlement for me.
Funny thing is, Outpost Zimonja's a quick one I did cuz I didn't like it either.
*Me scrolling through the video to see if Starlight drive is in it*
*it is not*
Me: Phew!
It would make no sense as it's one of the best. Relatively flat and big. A perfect place for a meat factory, nom nom.
Mechanistic lair is my favorite one, it's the safest base, I use it as a production settlement to manufacture weapons and armor to supply to other settlements, just a few bunch of robots will defend the place without any problem, unlike as other settlement which get attacked frequently wen you set up a manufacturing unit mechanic lair rarely get attacked and even wen it's under attack it's easy to defend with robots
How is Hangman's Alley not even on this list??? It is by far, THE WORST settlement for players that want to actually build a somewhat self-sustaining settlement. It's awful. With Jamaica Plain a close second.
Butter Pecan Rican I actually really like hangmans alley for the reason you automatically get walls (all the surrounding buildings) and you can keep the back scrap walls with the locked door meaning enemies can only come in one way. Also it's very centralized on the map. Always have to download mods to scrap all the shit in it though
Voltaire I usually build walls around all my settlements anyways. I don't know why I bother trying to build it up. I should've gotten creative with my use of the place during my current playthrough, instead of trying to buld it like my other settlements.
Butter Pecan Rican With those two you can build up and have a decent amount of flattened land. Coastal Cottage is the worst.
SZECHUAN SAUCE Coastal Cottage is terrible lol. Dare I say useless? Yes, USELESS.
Butter Pecan Rican Yep.
You forgot hangmans alley. You can scrap the junk fence and guard post but the settlers will never go past it even after it is gone.
I'm with you on Coastal Cottage being 1 on the list worst settlement locations in FO4. The RR wanted me to set up an RR safe house there in my last play of FO4.
Covenant is the worst.
Jamie Malawkin I agree. It's glitched as all get out. It could be the best but noooo...
yea i sided with them but only to avoid the ownership issues. i then just disabled all the unowned turrets and named settlers. too bad all the other settlers are also overly cheery and annoying
Kill the settlers, scrap the turrets on a shack floor piece, along with everything "Owned". It helps to kite them down to the lake before killing them, to keep the limbs and eyeballs from littering the place. As a bonus, the corpses continually respawn their inventories for easy food and loot.
yea fixed all that but now all i want is to make the settlers use the 'DialogueFarmGeneric' speaking options like normal settlers in other settlements since they talk like I sided with Covenant accordingly. Would be perfect if I could change the default dialogue for them.
My only problem with it is that I hate having to through the bodies of settlers in the lake it's so tedious but I don't want to just leave them there. I usually send my robot son there.
Also, despite being indoors, the beds at The Slog aren’t counted as being “under cover” if I recall correctly?
I take the trump approach and build a wall of concrete around all my settlements as close to the green as I can, then I build a sleeping barracks into the side of a good spot in the wall. Build a gate using the warehouse doors.
Murkwater construction site is the worse for me by far. From the first time i saw it after i liberated it my first reaction was " What the hell , this is a dump". Who would possibly want to stay here.
And yes , the Mirelurk queen does indeed respawn.
Worst settlement in my opinion... hangman's alley 😖
Yeah. That area is just bad. Not a lot of room to do much. I had to end up building up.
Wiggle D that's the point
Jazie Kay Ray but it's cool lol
Hangman's ally is the best settlement in the game.
In survival its home.Its pretty much the only place you want to go to feel safe.
at the number 2 i just made unrealstic big wooden box in the sky lol
Costal cottage
OMG yes i really got hyped when i found it and then i found out those annoying house remains cant be scrap. then i thought hay maybe i might be able to create a sick tunnel or under ground building of sort then i saw the size of the "hole"
I'm really proud of what I built at Tenpines Bluff, Outpost Zimonja, Jamaica Plain, Murkwater Construction Site and Coastal Cottage. Had each walled, fortified and well equipped with food and water sources. And integrated stuff that was there originally into what I added.
Jamaica Plain is one of my three go-to surface regrouping points (others being Sanctuary and Hangman's Alley). But after purchasing Season Pass I move more and more of my stuff to Vault 88.
In Murkwater, I built half of the settlement's stuff on the water and the Queen won't respawn.
In Coastal Cottage, the hole is perfect for establishing a motorized pump or two.
the one that have Preston Garvey
and the best is red Rocket station from the start I build my base there my "house" is the structure i walled It put a bed a dog house for my bestfriend dogmeat
Me too
Red Rocket is valuable because by default it defends Sanctuary from attacks from the South.
+Fiasco3 Oddly all of my attacks are coming from the east instead.
Anime is life I Use Sanctuary Hills(SO MUCH SPACE)
Red Rocket is fantastic when you're starting out, has all the workbenches you could ask for, gives you a companion who never judges your actions, and is close to a lot of low-level 'dungeons.'
For me,The Slog's location is PERFECT!!......Just imagine the agony and fear of the settlers there... Mwahahahahhhahahahh!
Gromp Killer i just like the slog for the view, location, and ample water resource. Not to mention my settlers are all geared put to look like road warrior scavs haha
perfect spot to send ghouls. they all get killed, together.
To be honest... I send all of my ghoul settlers here from my other settlements. I feel bad about it, but I still do it.
Jade Prout Don't feel bad you can be as cruel, violent and racist as you want it's a lot of fun i try building some concentration camps and i always keep everyone else there weak so they depend on me too much to rebel and even if they dare to defy me the whole village wouldn't stand a chance too bad you lose the control of the settlement workbench if you kill everyone
Wow I didn't know so many neo nazis played fallout.
I always make Outpost Zimonja my little jail like place, where I sent all annoying but ‘immortal’ npc(s) 🤔 I feel it... somewhat fitting.
Same
I agree with this list but 3 other settlements I hated were hangman's alley taffington boathouse and nordhagen beach not because nordhagen beach is a bad settlement but because when you play in survival like I am it is too inconvenient to get to considering one of the first things you have to pass through is libertalia
I totally agree with Hangman's Alley. Its just some random hovel out of the hundreds in Fallout 4 you clear out, and the sole survivor is like, "Hmm... I'ma put some mutfruit here." So stupid. Also I hate Covenant. You kill everyone there, and it's still considered stealing when you loot the place and have your own settlers move in. Plus all those pre-installed turrets don't count towards its security score at all.
Donny Card you do know there is a quest that lets you take covenant peacefully and you can keep all the settlers already there
Oh I know, and I do it, and then I execute them all to save one synth. Sucks having Covenant when you play Pro-Synth.
I was able to do some neat stuff with Hangman's Alley. It took some time and patience but I ended up making a 3-4 story shanty-town esque settlement. Its a bit tough trying to make room for food but I was able to grow some crops in one of the dirt patches, albeit a bit glitchy. However, it is a really small area with very little freedom to build so I can see why people might not like it.
Hangman's Alley do have a purpose: it's directly next to Diamond City. So, after I connected the settlement to my supply lines grid, I can just drop every scraps and shipments I buy in DC or scavenge in the ruins nearby and it go directly into the whole settlements system. Other than that, you're right, it's not much useful.
i hate hangman alley
its so small you can't build anything or hardly plant anything.
I use Hangman's alley for the Railroad
5 bars, 2 farmers, 1 guard, 2 dogs, 4 missile turrets, 2 heavy machine gun turrets, 2 spotlights= 100% Happiness. May be possible to use even less, but I sent Tina De Luca there and I think her sour puss is a drag lol.
Hangmans alley works very well as a favela style settlement. Build up and stack with criss crossing boardwalks. Mine came out awesome. Also if you have wasteland workshop use garden plots on roof tops. Otherwise i had no problem making mutfruit and carrots to supply my settlers on the ground. Just had to set up a bunch of lights to make it seem realistic as the buildings shade everything out
It has a great location, natural choke points for enemies, and you can build all the necessities for survival mode. I'd say that's pretty good.
It's perfect strategic location. One of the most useful. But it depends from how good you are at F4.
For Tenpines Bluff I now build a two story 3 x 4 building between the broken building and the garden stone wall. I can easily house 20 settlers in it, and I put an artillery piece on the roof. For the Slog, build between the building and the fence on the north side of the building. I generally place a 3x4 barracks at all my settlements. The only places I can't do that are Hangman's Ally,, Jamaica Plain, and Croup Manor. At Murkwater, build on stilts.
Jamaica Plain- there is enough space, if you that garden area in the middle. You can plant crops and water around it.
Murkwater construction site- yea, it's very little space so you want to build one mega barrack with all stuff inside it. And it will be well defended.
You forgot oberland station
Pre war era takes a few months to build a structure
Wastland era 10 seconds
The Slog is one of my favorite places to build because I build on the roof and arm that place to the teeth which makes taking on the Ironworks exterior easy since I lure them to the Slog. And I use the airport as my own personal home since it sucks for settlers.
i personally think that outpost zimonja is one of the better places to build for complex builders or intermediate builders like myself when playing fallout 4. the reason why i think so in my opinion was i tested out a theory at one point where i just make a randomly generated new game with random loot spawn tables (so just a new game) and then 1 by 1, owned as many workshops i could. what i would do once owning the settlement/area, was scrap absolutely everything to the last object so the bar was empty (sometimes taking hours to find the remaining objects) and then only use what i scrapped to make anything i wanted out of what i had gained from the scraps to build my own settlement accustomed to the area.
outpost zimonja was one of the better and most convienient places for me as once a settlement beacon was set up at one of the workshops that had the ability to build it, not only would i begin getting people to work at outpost zimonja but giving a settler a fatman with power armour, then placing a spotlight and turret to fact down at the raiders just south of it proved to be cool and realistic in a way. an enemy that could attack at any one given time, a searchlight that helped the turret feel more realistic as well as aiding other settlers to see the enemy better having the small area turned into a mini community just felt so nice just to know i could push the boundries of realism onto a game that doesnt really have that. i would even go as far as if i could loot something or lured something i had killed into the workshop area and killed it, i can then take that loot and use it only at that place. so if i found i gun and could make a gun station (cant remember its name), then i would modify the guns and give it to the settlers or take theres to modify then give it back. give them ammo and all that. only thing i werent to sure weather to do was exploit their inventories everytime it refreshed as it was free items. i think i left it out in the end.
the other place i loved building at was red rocket due to the garage door really. having an attack take place and i just open a garage door to a firing line of turrets and a person on a post, closing the red rocket doors and having that square area was just easy to build.
finally 1 from fallout 76 was the food processing plant. i spent god amounts of hours just building there using the area where the hooks were left of the conveyor belts, in the corner, as a small bar area, blocking off and locking and also making every door i could inacsessable to players unless they chose to break it or get a bounty on them, the free non radiated food was lovely a clean bed to get the well rested perk helped in handy, more than enough room on the roof and inside the farm silo's and main building to put down workshop equipment and the access to the free junk piles u can use outside was just near perfect.
2 honorable mentions for 76 though is the red rocket top right of the map and finally the race track. both medium to big areas with both inside and outside building accessability which i was a fan of, u could hide wires and stuff just by putting them ontop the surrounding fence which wasnt an eyesore and on the stand wall if it decided not to work properly having all types of decent variations of junk and lighting up the area on the race track and having the middle of it as a way to just farm or have a lil outside building fort of some sort or even main area was nice. even though it was hard in my opinion to build stuff inside the main building, i did prefer the fact i could hide the connectors on the roof and make it so it goes around the cieling and throught the door contiuing to the wall before reaching down behind the far wall of the main building which aided in lighting the area using the pole fences.
I honestly love building at Zimonja, Jamaica Plain, Murkwater and Coastal Cottage because of the challenge to tinker your way around obstacles and ruins. For the same reason I can get lost in building up Hangman's Alley, Croup Manor and Echo Lake😅
Oberland station!!
Right? Overland is super uneven so it's hard to make anything that looks good
Hey, how about 'Top Ten most unrealistic features in Fallout 4'
P.s. can you credit me if you use this?
AlbatrosMafia
1: Fucking Mr. Handies (still amazing to build, though)
Not clearing away any debris or trash in the settlement without mods! Or not repairing/ scraping buildings.
Genuinely I think Sanctuary is a really bad settlement, it's a pretty large area with a lot of things to scrap for supplies, but it's found too early on for anyone to make use of it, so unless you go back and specifically want to build it up (good luck as most of the houses are unscrappable and even if you can, you can't build that looks like the unscrappable houses) most peoples's sanctuaries look the same, with the same annoying NPCs that we all avoid for the far more interesting factions and their settlements.
Drumlin's Dinner and Starlight Drive In. Here is the reason why 1. Raiders operate out of Covaga Assembly Plant and Olivia Outpost and they can respawn. 2. Both settlements are next to the National Guard Depot which is Gunners HQ so the first wave will be Raiders from Covaga after you clean it out the second wave will be Gunners. and 3 both settlements are close to places where dangerous Wasteland trash spawn close to the settlement you have to deal with Ghouls, Muties, Robots, and dangerous critters. There is a Guai Den by Jarbert Brothers Disposal and they always head towards Starlight if you do Getting a Clue or On the Trail. Mole Rats and Mirelurks live nearby and since the settlement is close to Concord there is a Deathclaw den nearby so watch out for them.
Found marcy long slaking again put her on a resource route from sanctuary to abandoned cabin in the glowing sea
Preston Garvey: *triggered*
Even with the Cheat terminal free mod, Some of these places are hard to build a bass of operations onto. Had to use a tone of Barn structure materials to make any uneven settlement worth Deffendable.