BILLY DEE WILLIAMS: Lando’s Significance to Star Wars, Chemistry with Diana Ross & Innate Smoothness
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Billy Dee Williams (Star Wars, Brian’s Song) joins us this week to reflect on his incredible legacy in this industry - from the importance of his casting as Lando Calrissian in Star Wars, to his chemistry with Diana Ross, and why he’s steadfast with his unique creative approach rather than playing the victim.
Truly appreciate Billy Dee coming on the podcast as a self admitted ‘private person,’ his honestly about dark times in life and the idea of not dwelling on the negatives was refreshing.
Tons of stories about the golden age of Hollywood in this episode, hope you enjoy and make sure to check out his book What Have We Here?
Timecodes:
0:00 - Intro
3:26 - Billy Dee Williams
7:01 - Product of an eclectic upbringing
11:09 - Crying his was into show business
13:30 - Trying not to dwell + Life is hard
17:32 - Meeting Laurence Olivier + Old Hollywood
20:39 - Breaking the rules in acting
23:10 - Shopify
24:59 - Rocket Money
26:41 - Scaring himself in roles
32:10 - Darkest time in his life
35:15 - Lady Sings the Blues + Diana Ross giddiness
37:24 - Brian's Song experience + Academy snub
39:50 - Funny Nighthawks story with Stallone
41:20 - Star Wars experience and flak
43:34 - Discover
44:30 - Embodying Lando Calrissian
46:01 - Time with Carrie Fisher
47:50 - NEW BOOK What Have We Here?
50:02 - Reflecting on his legacy + crazy life altering trip
55:42 - I did it my way...
58:30 - Outro
1:00:22 - Couldn’t do it without you
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BILLY DEE WILLIAMS: Lando’s Significance to Star Wars Critique, Chemistry with Diana Ross, & Being Innately Smooth #insideofyou #billydeewilliams #starwars 
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The king of coolness is the best way to describe Billy Dee Williams. He is so calm, relaxed and always patient with everything.
So chill!
Absolutely!
Damn Rosenbaum getting interviews like he's Diane Sawyer or Barbra Walters 😅
And doing a better job! 😄
Billy Dee Williams, another living legend! Michael Rosenbaum is knocking these interviews out of the park...!
John Rhys-Davies and Billy Dee Williams back to back??? Are you kidding me? Two incredible, legendary performers. This is a testament to you and what you have built Mr. Rosenbaum.
NOT. MISSING. THIS!!!!!! The one true Harvey Dent! Lando! Always classy!
if only we had got to see his Two-Face
I can't believe that I forgot he was Harvey, haven't watched the Burton Batman movies in years
I'm a Black male, bicentennial baby (1976) and Harlem, NYC native. I'm so proud of you, Mr. Rosenbaum....for giving Mr. Williams one of the BEST interviews I've seen. You said Billy was reticent, initially. I didn't sense that, AT ALL. He's too old to play games. He was vibing with you, from the start of the interview.
Us older folks can suss people/situations out----almost immediately. AND HE ACTUALLY RECITED HIS ICONIC, COLT 45 & "STAR WARS" TAGLINES---WITHOUT PROMPTING!!!
Mike, YOU are the difference between some late-1980's--90's baby just knowing ONE film/character.....and asking a bunch of nerdy, hack questions. You were able to travel throughout his life experiences....theater and film work....and give each moment an equal amount of reflection. You were able to inject your own experiences.....and circle back to Mr. Williams. Your pacing and humor was organic. You really are a great interviewer. I always say, many of these late 1980's---2000 babies (particularly Black Americans) are severely lacking the benefit of pre-1940....or pre-1950 elders.
[Until their deaths in the mid-1980's and mid-1990's] I grew up surrounded by my elders born from the turn of the century.....to 1912, 1916, 1933, 1935....and 1947. Like my aforementioned elders, Billy's not giving politically-correct nonsense, trendy "progressive" vocab salad....or pontificating. He just IS. This was the atmosphere I---and many pre-1980 Black folks----remember. Good job, for facilitating this. BTW: I don't know about Caucasian women and others....but most Black women in the late 1970's and 1980's treated Billy like THE BLACK POPE. I'm glad he recounted this.
That's well put for sure!🤟🏻🤟🏻He really is informed and actually knows the characters. And I love that it's just a talk basically between 2 people
Michael Rosenbaum was born in 1972. Do you consider yourself an "older folk" by being born in 1976?
@@j2174 🙄 We're BOTH Gen-X. Michael is the same age as my older brother and we all share much of the same experiences. I'm in an even better year, since I'm a BICENTENNIAL baby. From the end of 1979 onward, I remember.
Big Billy. It's incredible how he reinvents himself. Sensational. It's great to see you well. Thank you Michael for always providing spectacles outside of the shows
This podcast is the best. I love how cozy the studio and presentation is. No distractions and very quiet. No loud idiots. Super chill. Go Lex !
Damn man, Billy Dee IS Lando Calrissian. Just the smoothest operator, even at 86. Great interview Rosey! Keep em coming, you're on a roll!
We need a Lando show. ❤❤❤
"I love Brian Piccolo, and I'd like all of you to love him, too. And tonight, when you hit your knees, please ask God to love him." This line and this movie still bring me to tears. This was a phenomenal interview, Michael. Billy Dee Williams is a phenomenal actor.❤
Billy Dee Williams: "I just want people to know that sometimes there's something a little bit more than just feeling like a victim". AWESOME!
Holy shit Rosenbaum is such a phenomenal interviewer and conversationalist. I think it's hard to lock down someone like Billy Dee's attention but he just rolls through it with such ease, such poise and keeps it moving. Great conversation. Love your show!
To watch Billy Dee go from so soft spoken and quiet to having a full on hang out session is one of the most wholesome moments in any episode of this podcast.
It's very nice to see Billy Dee alive and well.
Preach
I love how geeked out you look in the thumbnail as you sit across from Billy Dee Williams 😂
My biggest regret was not buying a painting at Dragon*Con that had Lando holding Leia in his arms and a Colt 45 beneath them with the tag line "Does it every time" written at the very bottom of the painting. It was the same year BOTH Billy Dee Williams and Carrie Fisher attended for autographs, and I thought about buying the painting and asking them to sign it but never did. I still regret not doing so to this day.
Michael, you landed an interview with another legendary actor! Billy Dee Williams IS a legend! "Brian's Song" is one of my all-time favorite Billy Dee Williams movie.
Two legendary episodes back to back. First John and now Billy. Billy gives off such a cool vibe. I agree with him that life is therapy. His book sounds delightful. Best podcast ever!!
Of all the episodes, this was the fastest LIKE ever!!! Thank you, Michael!! Thank you, Billy....you suave...suave man!!
I love watching people from his generation talk. My grandparents were from that generation and I wish I had talked to them more
This is a class act! Billy Dee Williams is a legend and so happy you had the opportunity to interview him Rosenbaum! ❤
So crazy! I just finished reading his autobiography "What Have We Here" and its such a good read. Billy is a legend.
What an amazing man. Mr. Billy Dee Williams is so talented and humble and insightful and relaxed and seemed to have great conversation with you Michael! What a dynamic and interesting interview! Thanks Michael and Mr. Williams! Bravo guys!
Lando is my favourite character in all of Star Wars. I see this thumbnail my brain sees LANDO with I'm who's the interviewer? Rosenbaum sweet! This will be good.
Oh man, Billy Dee Williams. Here we go. I love seeing reactors freak out when he pops up in Batman 89.
It blows my mind that he is just really that cool, smooth, and present.
It is such a treat listening to this. What a very cool, calm, and collected guy. Keep up the great work Michael ❤️🙏.
Phenomenal Guest!!! Michael 💙🎉 I meet him last year at Galexycon NC he took time to talk with everyone Amazing soul💯🙏
Billy Dee!!!... Lando/Harvey Dent/Berry Gordy is in the building!!!... I know this will be a great one!!!
Freaking amazing Michael!!! ❤ So happy for you ❤ Loved every bit of this interview ❤
Thank you Michael ❤ Happy Tuesday 💙
Many thanks to Rosey, Ryan and Billy Dee! 🤩 I have loved him since MAHOGANY (1975). 🌟
I was skeptical where the interview was going to go. But as it continued I found he started to open up and it became easier. Great interview with one of the greatest actors of all time!
When Billy Dee Williams walks into a room the temperature drops by 20°. I mean, December is his middle name.
What a freaking lovely chat. Honestly this just warmed my heart watching this.
Another awesome episode. I was lucky one year to catch a panel of his at Calgary Expo. It was so cool to hear all the stories he has. Definitely going to pick up his book.
What a great guest, and interview. It seems that we've all been enamored with Mr. Billy D. Williams for a long time now, and rightly so. What a delight! ❤🎉
I Love how you’re a Star but you’re also just like us, a Fan and you ask for an Autograph 😄🙌🏻
Thanks for this awesome interview. It was a great day to wake up and listen to this.
Fantastic interview, thank you!
This is such a wonderful interview with a very interesting gentleman🤩Thank you for this brilliant episode❤️
That was an amazing interview. He's an icon amongts icons, I really enjoyed his smoothness. Great work Michael!
Thank u for this interview ❤🙏🏾🙌🏾👍🏾
Amazing interview!! Absolutely great!!
You're right, Michael, you could totally tell Billy Dee was loosening up as the episode continued. He is such an amazing guy. I discovered him as Lando, but really admire him as a person too. This episode made me learn a LOT more about him and I was glad to. What a treat he actually came in person too! Such a treat. He seems like he would be awesome to meet. I intend to read his book too at some point. Just amazing. I was surprised and happy when I saw this episode appear on your channel. Nice job, Michael.
That interview, with this astonishing legend was amazing. Love the vibe, and energy, plus his stories
Thanks for another awesome episode
Solide conversation again.
What a guest!
What a legend!
Another outstanding guest and interview. I can't say better and better because, in my opinion, you have knocked so many of these out of the park. Keep them coming. I really need to see Brian's Song again.
This is the best interview yet. 👍
That was great. He really relaxed into the podcast and his warmth and humour really shone through.
Billy looks and sounds great. I'm happy the Lando series might finally be happening because it could be incredible if done right. I trust Glover but had a vision for the show as soon as it was announced.
Here's what I saw:
An elderly Lando Calrissian, portrayed by Billy Dee Williams, flashes back to his younger swashbuckling years sharing how the legend Lando came to be.
The extended flashback being the bulk of the series, only intermittently cutting back to the present day as Elder Lando continues sharing his story.
Part 1:
A young wide-eyed boy, wise and quick-witted beyond his years lives his life straight and by the rules. Until one day, when put into a bind beyond his control, is forced to play things underhandedly.
He then quickly learns that crime and deception pay more. To provide for himself and his impoverished friends and family, he excels in hustling at every opportunity that arises.
Finally breaking away from his home planet and loved ones after setting them up financially, we follow the adventures of a self-centered, degenerate gambler hustler sinking deeper and deeper into the criminal underworld. A man who's only driven by greed, sexual conquests, vanity, and personal gain.
During this, Lando's first introduction to the Millennium Falcon occurs through gambling, theft, purchase, or construction.
There's a ton of violence, action, intrigue, and de*th-defying journeys he handles with his skill, charisma, and cleverness building up to the finale where he risks all of his accumulated wealth and his life in an ultra-high-stakes game against a ruthless crime syndicate (like the Black Sun or others) to acquire Cloud City.
After an intense back-and-forth game, in the end, Calrissian wins it all to become Baron of the City to end season/part 1.
Part 2:
Explores someone who's overwhelmed by his new responsibilities finding that his old hustling ways no longer hold any value.
We then see Lando's slow evolution from a self-centered 2-bit criminal into an effective, politically savvy, selfless leader of Cloud City who's able to address the needs of his people.
Then often personally leading strike teams that fight off alien invasions, heading investigations, finding missing persons, solving crimes, politically outmaneuvering rivals, achieving great accomplishments that benefit his constituents, etc. with a team he's assembled consisting of Lobot, droids, a grey or albino Wookie (not Chewbacca), along with different alien and human confidants.
The once reckless selfish playboy has become a responsible selfless man.
And under his leadership, Cloud City thrives.
Part 3 and the last act of the final season:
Everything begins to fall apart. The political intrigue becomes deeper, more consequential, and more unfavorable for Lando.
Gangs have taken over large parts of the city. Crime is rampant. Invasions more frequent. Trade wars become ungovernable. Close allies dropping off one by one from de*th or betrayal. Ass*ssination and coup attempts become almost constant.
All of his achievements become undone culminating in a final turning point where his wife and child d*e in childbirth.
Lando becomes completely lost and broken.
But at his lowest, he suddenly receives a message from someone high up who claims they can change his fortune if they meet. He's desperate and out of options so he reluctantly accepts.
The series finale reveals that person to be Vader and the meeting that leads to the events in ESB.
We'd finally get to see what led to Calrissian's fateful decision to betray Solo and suddenly might have empathy for him and his actions. And look at Lando in ESB differently because we know we likely would've made the same choice under his circumstances.
Watching his life journey leading up to that event would show us what played into his belief that this action was best for him and his people. And the only way out of his predicament.
That's how I see what the show could or should be. I think Glover is going to crush it either way. Especially if this backstory is covered at all.
Wow. What a revealing interview. I'm sure he's never shared a lot of what he revealed in this conversation. Rosenbaum is always genius in letting these guys talk. Great interview!
Loved this episode! Smooth AF
This was an excellent and humorous interview. 😊😂
Great interview. Michael, as entertaining and inspiring as it was for the rest of us, I believe that there was hidden treasures there for you. So many gems in there for you to ponder on and apply. Love that your success is growing. You deserve it.
Thank you for this outstanding interview with a true gentleman and such a fine actor!
another awesome interview 👏 mr.williams such a great actor thank you michael 👍 your podcast one of my favs
Wow what a beautiful legend so humble and so sweet really enjoy listening. This episode is what this podcast is about. Billy interview was amazing loved the interview, glad Billy found love when he was going through a hard time in his life. I was in that state when I found this podcast going through a dark time in my life it save me. Some people don’t really understand what going through peoples head when they are depressed and feeling down. Feeling loss or going through grieving or feeling alone, we are not really alone and ending life isn’t the answer. Love this podcast and there are people that do listen counseling and therapy is the best thing you can do for yourself when you’re feeling in that state. There is a lot of love and caring in this world it’s not always a dark place.
What an enjoyable episode. Smoothness all around !
Brian’s Song 💙🧡
Michael, thanks for letting Mr. Williams talk. Great job!
Billy Dee! Great interviewee for the show. Some of my fondest childhood memories seeing ESB at the theaters (again and again, and yes the best). He was quickly accepted, no on cared about skin color, and when he made amends he was part of the team. Legend. I wish I could be as smooth as him, he just has crazy charisma.
Amazing interview! And he's so right about his 1st line to Leia in Empire
'Cool' may defy any truly cogent definition, but whatever you think it means, Billy Dee Williams has always embodied it in spades. He radiates cool, he carries himself with cool, he conveys an aura of cool. He 'is' cool personified.
Amazing actor, i love this channel and amazing interviews 😀
Awesome Inside with the very embodiment of wisdom and tranquility, Billy Dee Williams, regarding one’s career and one’s life ♥️ A treat this discussion between you two, life itself is an art, as he said so well !👌♥️ A " smooth " Inside, thank you so much Michael 💙 Ryan Jason and Bryce ❤❤
So glad you got him on, such a cool guy, the coolest! Great episode 👏🏻 😎
Living Legend! Congrats Michael!
He is very wise, i learned alot from his attitude.
How cool the legendary Billy Dee Williams aka Lando Calrissian on the new Inside of You episode. What a fun one.😀😀🙏🙏
Men wanted to be like him, women wanted to be with him. He was one of the coolest and nicest dudes on the planet. As a white kid growing up watching his movies/career, I wanted to be Billy D. The world lost a gem, thank you for this interview Michael and your team.
Cheers
🙏🏼
Awesome! Billy Dee is a true gentleman!
Awesome stream man 😎
Ah man! Billy Dee!! Bingo Long, Brian's Song, Lady Sings the Blues, Star Wars. Always too cool for school. Great interview!🔥🔥👍🏿
I had a fantastic time watching the interview. Billy Dee Williams is still really cool & looking sharp, no surprise there. I learned a lot, & it was fascinating, making me feel good, also..
This was a great episode! Was everything I thought he would be which is rare
This was amazing. Would have loved to hear about some of his guest stints on some shows over the years like NCIS, etc. but I’m sure your time with him was limited.
Before Empire Billy Dee was already know as a Cool Motherfu----. So when Empire came out everyone thought well of course Han Solo's buddy would be Billy Dee. Who's as cool as Harrison Ford. Billy Dee! I love his appearance on Modern Family. Jay generation sees Lady Sings the Blues, Brian's Song. Then Phil walks in and just says "Lando!" Classic. Outside of Rocky/Rambo my favorite Stallone film is "NightHawks". Sly and Billy Dee were great buddy-cops.
Billy Dee is such an awesome guy and I absolutely love his little giggle/laugh
That was fantastic
The only guy that’s not a super hero that can wear a cape and get away with it
how nice another podcast insideofyou billy dee williams is a historic character I love your expressions in interviews I go crazy and laugh lol 😂♥️
What a refreshing outlook at life….
Billy looked and sounded like an old guy with dementia when I last saw him at Star Wars celebration, but here he seems to be so alert and alive.
✌️ 🍻
I've never seen Mr. Williams interviewed before. What a lovely person he is. I especially enjoyed how he said he never felt like a victim.
Rocking the Indiana shirt! Newburg is a great little town!
Fantastic interview. Hearing BDW say _"Calrizzzian"_ gives me life.
You really do score some massive guests.
I was sad that he didn't get to reprise the role of Harvey Dent but made up for it by voicing him in the Lego Batman Movie. Nighthawks is an underrated action thriller. The backdrop of Queens, NY with the Roosevelt shuttle is just beautiful.
After watching this episode and being a huge fan of the Star Wars and Indiana Jones franchises; I could totally see a Billy Dee Williams playing a version of Indiana Jones.
Currently adding Brian's Song to my watchlist
Woah, interviewing an icon?! Loved the interview. My dads a huge Billie Dee fan ❤❤
Michael did this interview with his eyes shining!
Brian's Song is one movie I will always recommend such powerful performances by two of the greatest artists and yeah it made me cry more than once
Ahhhhh.... the cool side of the pillow.... I'll sleep well after listening to this
57:35 hahaha Rosey's face!
Lando and lex luthor in the same room what a time to be alive
87 and still smooth as silk. This was an awesome interview
Colt 45, "Works Every Time."
Smoothest interview bar none.
So cool