Ortur Y Axis Rotary Chuck - We engrave all the odd shaped round things!
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- We're testing the Ortur Y-Axis Rotary Chuck. I'll show you what comes with it, how to set it up, and many ways you can use it to engrave many odd-shaped round objects using your laser.
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Love mine, got it for $67 on Temu. I then made an aviation plug to use with the fiber laser driver. Had to change the power setting on the driver as it got really hot.
Wow, $67 is a steal!
Very nice demonstration of the Ortur Rotary Chuck capabilities. I always enjoy all of your videos and appreciate the work it takes to share them with us.
I was trying to find help for a stanley cup w handle. Thanks for the idea about the flopping the chuck. YES!
Happy to help! That 180 degree rotation of the motor makes that an easy solution for larger items. You just need to make sure it's counter balanced.
Great job on many if the little things that need to be done.
Thank you! I wanted to make sure to cover the variety of options with this rotary.
Thank you for teaching me… I have the ORTUR roller & the chuck roller, for my Ortur LM2 10w
Wonderful! Glad to help.
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This is the best video I've seen on this thanks for all your help now I know how to use it
Glad I could help!
@@Vintauri Engraved my first glass while watching this. There is nothing close to this tutorial on the tube.Does that spray work on glass?? I used tempera paint
Good explanation on setting up the YRC
Thanks 👍
Great video. I recently purchased the Ortur rotary chuck and am waiting for it to arrive. I bought it to mark tumblers and cups with a handle. I never thought about marking eggs, rings or toothpicks!
Hope you enjoy it! The different attachments really open up some options for engraving items. The toothpick was just a challenge I had to try! :D
What was the time to engrave the ring inside &outside?
What’s with the red star?
First in class?
Thanks, that was really handy. I got this tool yesterday (only had my laser a few days, so a total noob) and followed your video step-by-step to do my first cylindrical engraving. It pretty much worked great, thanks to your help here. The things that didn't go to plan were:
1) That backlash command at 10:41 just gave me a "Error:80", so I didn't bother with it. Didn't seem to cause an issue.
2) I had text in my test engraving and it came out mirrored. I've only had my laser a few days and this is the first time I've tried text.
3) The text was oriented sideways, so I will need to turn it 90 degrees before burning.
Hello friend, connect the orthur mandrel to the Sculpfun S30 Pro, I put the command $22=0 and it comes out OK and when I put the command $141=600 it comes out ERROR, and I can't do anything anymore because the mandrel starts to sound ugly.... it has any help for this?
Nice demo I have one coming soon. I will be doing cups with handles. I have a DPSS 4watt laser engraving module that does all metals fantastic.
I recommend getting cardboard tubes (from paper rolls) that are about an inch in diameter and cut them into rings as a practice rings for engraving. The power will clearly be different, but orientation and technique can be perfected. I am ordering an Ortur rotary since XTool won't send me the cable they omitted when I got my XTool rotary.
Those are a good practice material, although they can be a bit warped at times. I always advocate plenty of practice on cheap or free materials however you can find them!
@@Vintauri If it's free, it's for me!
On light weight cups the plastic works great on yeti cups you best use the metal studs inside the cups.
very helpfull info, just orderd 1 similar rotary. thanks for sharing.
Excellent, thank you very much
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you for the video and taking the time to go thru the $22 and $141 codes around the 10 minute mark. I understand the $22 is Homing ON/OFF cmd. You mention the $141 is for backlash, but if I look at the Machine Setting function it shows $141 as the Y driver current amps and shows 5.000. You might mention that the $22 and $141 settings need to be changed to go back to normal use.
With that said, I do think you've got the best video around on setting up and using the Chuck Rotary tool. Thank you.
Edit: I asked about the $141 cmd on the LightBurn forum and got the answer there seems to be a bug in the system. It should be amps (perhaps better expressed as mA). Seems $161 is the Y axis backlash cmd.
Again, THANK YOU for a good video
How do you change the $22 and $141 settings back exactly? I ask because I just changed them to follow along with this video but he doesn’t mention having to change them back!
@@mmarshall1231 Just use the same $141=1000 to set them back to normal, and $22=1 for normal homing operation.
@@kenh8979 Hello friend, I have a problem, I bought the Orthur chuck and I have a sculpfun S30 pro, I put the command $22=0 and it comes out OK and I continue with the command $141=600 and it comes out ERROR, and I want to do an engraving operation and it doesn't work, I can you help ?
@@camilo23ariztizabal I'm not sure why the $141 code gives an error msg. I suspect it's because your sculpfun S30 uses a different cmd for that code. From my understanding the $141 code controls the current limit for the stepper motor. If that's true, I'm not sure what the deal is with changing the value from 600 to 1,000.
These days I don't really change that value and my OLM3 seems to work just fine. Have you tried doing an engraving without changing the $141 value?
Good luck and let us know how it works.
I have it connected to my Sculpfun S30ProMax, via Lightburn. Works great, but aligning takes some time.
This chunk is more versatile dan Xtool's RA2, and a lot cheaper, in my case 1/3 of the Xtool.
If you switch back and forth from the rotary to the regular laser a lot, it might be worth setting up a Jig to align the rotary to the frame and then know a specific distance to get you to the center. That should help with alignment each time.
Thanks for the comment. I have the S30 PM and was trying to verify compatibility before purchasing. Now that I know it works, I will order one. Just watching videos, I am guessing it takes quite a bit of work to align this correctly.
what settings did you use to set this up in Lightburn? I thought I had it setup correctly, clicked the Test button and the rotary just grinds and jumps around.
Great video! These rotary settings worked well for my tumbler project. How do you go about reversing the two gcode commands you made to return the laser setting back to normal for non rotary work?
You can use the console in lightburn to make the changes back and forth. $141=600 to operate the chuck rotary, and $141=1000 to operate in normal fashion also $22=0 to turn the homing off when using the chuck, $22=1 to turn homing back on when using the laser normally. I think that's the only two you need to worry about.
About ready to try my rotary chuck. I bought an adapter that holds the laser at 90 degrees so it points to the back of my LM3. This way there is no need to elevate the LM3. With the changes to the GRBL commands I think I read somewhere that a user saves a version with the rotary commands and without them. Do you do this? If so how do you load these GRBL commands into the LM3 (just paste the script into the command line)?
Also, found this on the Ortur FB (have you needed to modify this? maybe the rotary chuck is OK): There is a.problem using the YRR Rotary unit with the OLM3 10W Laser.
If you haven't discovered this for yourself already, then read on.
The OLM3 uses different stepper motors for the X and Y axi from the OLM2 PRO, SF, LF and the Rotary unit.
The OLM3 steppers work on 100 steps to the millimetre, while the YRR Rotary unit stepper works on 80 steps to the millimetre.
Which means that the Y axis lengths will be increased by about 25% on the Rotary, if you don't adjust the relevant gcode parameter. So shapes that encircle the whole cylinder will overlap by 25%.
$101 needs to be changed from 100 to 80 while using the Rotary with the OLM3. ( $101=80 )
And don't forget to set it back to 100 when you go back to standard engraving, or your Y values will be 25% shorter.
$20=0, $22=0 and $101=80 for the Rotary.
$20=1, $22=1 and $101=100 for Standard engraving.
Best to save 2 seperate profiles and then switch between the two.
How do I get it back to normal now though? It won’t home at all and my origin goes crazy. I have not even tried engraving anything after switching from flat to rotary. But I have an order and cannot figure this out.
Ortur Y-Axis Rotary Chuck For Laser Engraver (YRC1.0) I got this for my Xtool D1 Pro 20W How do I plug it into the Xtool? Thanks
Thanks! Really saved me a lot of trouble!
Did you use some calculation to alter the image (projection) on tapered objects ?
I'm glad it helped you out! I did not make any adjustments on this one for the taper.
I priced a can of the brilliance spray. Wow why so costly? I normally use rustoleum for tile and other materials. Is there something that the brilliance does better ? I only have an Ortur laser master two which is probably only around 5watt output power. I noticed talk about brilliance only fairing well with higher power lasers. Any thoughts? Great information that you provided. My rotary is going to be here this week. Thanks again!
The brilliance spray is expensive, but a little goes a long way and it's easy to apply, wash off and it's markings tend to be consistent. I've not had much luck with it on a 5w laser, but 10w is enough to fuse it with a dark and crisp marking.
Hola amigo, tengo un Sculpfun S30 Pro, crees que si sea compatible el mandril ortur ?
Hey, Great info in your vids Curious about the other lasers I have the comgrow Z1 just curious this model rotary would work with that machine Plug and Play?? Thanks hope you or anyone can help...🙂
Don’t you need to upload the rotary set up in machine settings? I did using the Ortur YRR.
I can't get rotary chuck to hold on to heavy dollar store tapered glasses. It don't matter if I try to grip them from the small end or the wide end, they slip out of the the chuck. And, it also doesn't matter if I grip them outside or inside. Any ideas?
Try adding some masking tape to the area of the glass where you are trying to grip it. That should give it more bite to hold on.
if this rotary chuck is attached to LM 2 pro with extension kit, is it possible to engrave on object attached to the chuck longer than the base of the rotary chuck? if yes, how would you support the other end.
Thanks for the demo but I see that we have YRR 3.0 and this Y Axis chuck is the only difference the ability to do cups with handles?
Cups with handles are one of the big advantages. It's also easier to level this with the adjustable angle. The chuck also has a positive grab on the item rather than relying on gravity to hold the object to the rollers.
Just got my chuck rotary and have a olm3. Went looking for the white Brilliance spray but could only find black. Has white been discontinued?
I don't think there has ever been a white marking spray from Brilliance. You can use it on glass and with lower power it will frost the glass giving it a white appearance, where as with higher power it can fuse the titanium dioxide as well causing the black look.
Note your comments regarding white brilliance paint at 20.00+ minutes into your video. What kind of white were you using?
@@jimhamilton2680 There is only one kind of brilliance marking spray. It's usually used for leaving back markings on metal, however when used on glass and at a low power it just frosts the glass instead of fusing the titanium dioxide to it to turn it black. It will not leave a white marking on anything. Glass just needs a binder to heat up the glass and cause micro abrasions to cause the frosted effect. You can do the same thing with black paint on glass.
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Hi how do you reset the command lines that you put in so I can set my laser to home. Thank you
Use the $141=1000 to set them back to normal, and $22=1 for normal homing operation
Thank you very much
I have a NEJE 3 Max v2 laser. Is the Ortur compatible with my laser??? Do you know?
It should be as the Neje has standard 4 pin connectors on the board and steppers. I have not tested it as I would have to lift the laser up on supports to use the rotary and I do not have it in an enclosure with a dropped bed yet.
Hi! What kinda Spray You used?
THX
I use Brilliance Marking Spray. amzn.to/3Nt5DW2
How much weight have you use on the Rotary Chuck? I want to use it to hold aluminum bars in order to engrave a part number.
I have not specifically weighed anything that I've put on this. The largest item would be 20oz stainless steel tumblers that I've engraved. You might look into an optional support roller that could be 3d printed to take the weight off the chuck.
The commands have been entered. $20=0 and $141=600 Now I want to go back to the previous situation
how did you set the diameter on the tapered cups?
I pick the middle of the design and test that. In lightburn they now have the tapered cup tool that helps adjust for the angle as well. I need to try that out and do a follow up with it.
Hi. Would I be able to use this with my Aufero laser machine?
It's the Aufero laser 2
You should be able to use this assuming it has standard wire plugs on the Y axis stepper motor. The kit comes with a couple typical cables to make it work with many machines. However, I cannot verify on this specific machine as I do not have access to one.
I just purchased the LM3 and rotary chuck. Ha - was wondering if it could hold my turned wood pens. You used marking spray on SS. The marking spray says it's designed for CO2 and fiber lasers. Is it OK for blue lasers? I use TiO2 powder and isopropyl alcohol on white tiles. Do you think the TiO2 will work on SS? - Thanks
I don’t see any issues with it holding most turned pens. I need to turns some new ones myself and throw them in here. While the marking spray says it’s for co2 and fiber lasers, I’ve found it works well with diodes at higher power levels. I do have some TiO2 to mix up and test as well, I just have not got around to testing it yet.
@@Vintauri thank you for the quick response. BTW - for tiles I use a 3:1 ratio of 91% isopropyl alcohol to TiO2 (mix well!) and air brush it on the tiles.
When I place the test, it sounds stuck, it doesn't turn, what's happening in this case?
I would double check that all the wires in the connector are plugged in. Sometimes a single pin can come loose and in this case you will hear a chattering while the stepper will not move.
@@Vintauri Thanks. The chuck does not turn, it stays stuck, it tries to turn to one side then the other and it stays stuck, I don't know if it is a configuration problem in Lightburn. My laser is a sculpfun s30pro diode laser
@@Vintauri I have checked the cables
Will it work other brand lasers"
Yes as long as you can adapt the plug to the Y stepper on the laser. It comes with a couple adaptors but some may be different.
I run my test and it runs perfectly. But every time I put an image on light burn it compress my image? Any ideas what I might adjust?
Can you clarify what you mean by compressing the image? Does it look compressed in the software preview or only when you send it to the laser?
@@Vintauri thanks for the response I figured it out. I accidentally put the wrong diameter…. It’s fixed!
@@theaverageguysfoodreview815 Good to hear! I've done that a few times and it's frustrating.
Will this work on comgrow z1 ?
It does come with a couple different cables that should allow you to connect it to the Z1 along with other lasers. Most diode lasers use a four pin plug and you just need the right pin out thus the extra cables they provide.
New creality rotary pro .makes grinding noise a d doesn't turn
Check the pins on the connectors, it sounds like one of the stepper motor phases is not connecting.
will this work with Epilog lasers?
thanks for sharing.
It might but you'd have to look into the Epilog control board and stepper drivers to make sure it would be compatible. Unfortunately Epilog lasers are not all the same with that so it's also going to depend on the model.
What spray did you use
I used Brilliance Marking Spray for the stainless steel cup. amzn.to/3R2Elba
thank tou
Kinda disappointed that you didn't use a real egg.. Just kidding.. Good job!
Stay tuned for tomorrows video! ;)