Dentistry, Posture, and Mandibular Splints: An Interview with Dr. Peter Lecca, DDS.
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
- This is just the interview with Dr. Peter Lecca on the intersection of dentistry and Postural Restoration. No introductory explanation. For the introductory explanation of how the vestibular system, the neck, and the hip flexors are all connected, watch the longer version.
Dr. Peter Lecca. Coppel, Texas.
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My website.
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Neal, I apologize for the novel, no need to respond. I know you said this isn't an easy process, and I suppose it hasn't been, but I am completely blown away by the transformation I have experienced with my body over a period of weeks, most of it in days and instants. I'm lucky enough to work from home and have hours to devote daily to meditating. I had been seeing some good progress in my daily life from just paying more attention to my pelvis, using my hips, and noticing all the areas I was tight and loose in my body. But the sensory cues you've discussed in your videos have completely changed me. In my case my left peripheral vision, tongue on roof of mouth, left heel, right arch were the big drivers. A few days ago I suddenly got in left stance for the first time without even trying and reflexively moaned out of relief. After, I got onto an exercise mat that I've been using to help with the sensory cues in my feet and suddenly felt another wave of tension in my body release. I decided to just relax into it while I experimented with putting an eye patch on my dominant eye and doing some dishes, where I suddenly became aware of all the remaining tension on the right side of my face and jaw. I removed the patch, closed my eyes, and started experimenting with focusing on my visual midline while attending to different aspects of my left peripheral vision. This ultimately led me to a very emotional experience around a traumatic event in my life of which I'll spare you the details. I felt calm enough to process the event in a way I never had before, I burst into tears and collapsed on the floor in a way that I just melted into the floor. I opened myself up to re-experience the worst feelings and it let me have the reaction that I was never able to have before. All of this happened in hours and over the last 3 days I have experienced the sensation of being truly balanced and it's like there was an instant switch where a wave of vertigo disappeared that I didn't realize was there. I can now balance on either leg with my eyes closed. I've been neutral without effort, breathing normally through my nose and into so many new parts of my body, sleeping through the night on my back. I could go on and on. It's honestly been similar to a psychedelic experience and I'm still having trouble processing it. The feeling I have in my neck and cranium is something I've only experienced on LSD when I was younger. I really think the big reason I was able to do that is because of your videos and I truly can't thank you enough. I know my journey isn't over and I've since started having some really interesting experiments with my vision - I clearly still need to see a specialist on that front. This is so important and I can't believe it isn't mainstream knowledge. My whole life I was diagnosed with issues clearly related to this and basically told there was nothing to be done. When it was noticed that I often breathed through my mouth as a kid, they just told me to stop instead of digging deeper. When an eye patch didn't fix my lazy eye, they shrugged and said you can still see fine so don't worry about it. I was told I had kyphosis as a teen and they basically just said it shouldn't cause me problems. Thank you from the bottom of my ground for doing what you do.
Don’t think of it as a novel you’ve written. Think of it as a testament you’ve left for other people to stumble upon and maybe some of them will have had similar experiences but are always told they are crazy. They will feel less alone on their journey. I’d be happy if you could copy your comment and put it in the comment section of the previous video…same interview but with the introductory context included. More people are watching that one. Glad you’ve had your revelations!
@@NealHallinan Absolutely, I will! Thank you Neal.
Thanks for sharing your experience, as it is proof that the body always wants to heal if provided the right inputs. Would you mind being contacted in private to share our process?
I don't know how to start. I started to wear my splint..
I am trying to restore a difficult asymmetry caused by my dentist fitting me with badly fitted bridges … this has basically changed the planes in my jaw, my facial and neck symmetry and caused years of chronic pain. In the end, as soon as the bridges came off, the pain almost disappeared and I could relax my face and eyes again. It would be good if dentists would listen to patients when they say that something feels too tight or painful or not right. These posts are very interesting thank you
I too experienced this with two caps that were my only teeth that made contact anywhere in my mouth. The dentist said it would work out, it didn't and I had moved. No dentist understood or wanted to mess with it. I got a Dremel. Now I will be looking for a PRI knowledgeable dentist.
I'm a dentist, and a PRI patient.
Not currently practicing due to this situation.
It's been quite the experience, to say the very least.
Appreciate you guys.
Neal, thank you especially.
Just looking for clarification to compare to my symptoms, how do yours prevent you from working? In my case, my ANS symptoms are so strange combined with constant brain fog that it's hard for me to focus. Honestly, I don't feel like a normal person. Words cannot describe what this condition does to you. The constant contraction on my right side makes me not feel like a normal person. I feel trapped.
Thank you Neal for this amazing content. A lot of PTs and doctors miss this stuff.
Bader
Myo Speech Therapy is an excellent resource for tongue issues as well as the other muscles used for speech and swallowing. Part of the tongue's job is to rest on the roof of the mouth and it acts like a pump with every swallow, helping the cerebrospinal fluid to circulate. The tongue can be strengthened like any muscle. It's calming to have my tongue on the right spot on my palate, as I've only recently discovered.
4 months later, have your cheekbones improved even more than they already were?
They say tongue on palate improves cheekbone area for us who previously had weak tongues
Crying, i need help, you're explaining what has happened to me, fighting for my life literally, i need help!
Tongue Posture (position) was mentioned several times. An appliance is only a temporary fix for unhealthy tongue postures . A LOW TONGUE POSTURE from undiagnosed or untreated tongue ties, and/or TONGUE THRUSTING (which is a compensation to promote BREATHING) are two examples of conditions that have much better long-term results when Orofacial Myofunctional Therapy (OMT) is also part of a complete program.
OMT is a neuromuscular retraining method (think physical therapy for the mouth) to develop normal oral rest postures. This can make any other treatments more effective long term.
I have seen many adults on their THIRD round of Ortho treatment, who's open bites re-open when the Ortho provider inserts a "Tongue Crib" rather than using an OMT program in conjunction with the Ortho.
So excited, I have an appointment with Dr. Lecca in a few weeks 🎉❤
How did it go
@@Waleed-ij6ki I went there once. They don't test you or diagnose you or check if you need a splint, they hurry to make you a splint, they guess and hope it works, and it costs a lot of money for nothing really. Please don't waste your money waleed. These people have no clue what they're doing, and just use some weird terminology to sound smart. Check taro iwamoto on youtube instead. Your nervous system is more flexible than you think. Don't get obsessed with your sensory-inputs as your nervous system will adapt to this badly and things will just get worse.
@@Waleed-ij6ki I went there once. They don't test you or diagnose you or check if you need a splint, they hurry to make you a splint, they guess and hope it works, and it costs a lot of money for nothing really. Please don't waste your money. These people have no clue what they're doing, and just use some weird terminology to sound smart. Check taro iwamoto on youtube instead. Your nervous system is more flexible than you think and can be trained without splints or glasses. Don't get obsessed with your sensory-inputs as your nervous system will adapt to this badly and things will just get worse.
Really enjoying the focus of information being around the neck/cranium in posture in these more recent videos Neal! Thank you
Hey Neal, just a quick feedback. I finally learned to feel my left glute medius while doing the exercises and things just rapidly improved, its insane. I can sleep on my back finally and generally my pain just got so much better. Thanks again for your guidance and ofc my local therapist Kazu
Excellent! That left glute medius is huge.
Hey Neal, since consulting you earlier in the year I have finally seen a PRI trained physio and dentist here in Australia. (I made the mistake of seeing a Mckenzie trained physio in the meantime who got me in more extension and worsened my situation - should have gone with my gut and done PRI straight away). You definitely were on the money with thinking my teeth were involved. With tongue depressors in I did 90% better on the tests. I have my dental appliance fitted tomorrow. Thank you for pointing me in the right direction. I truly appreciate how you try to help with all these videos and content. Hopefully what I’m doing helps, but if If all else fails, I think I will try to do PRIME in Nebraska. PRI just makes so much sense to me
Keep us updated and good luck 🤞🏼
Hi Louise, I too live in Australia and am having serious problems with my occlusion and neck etc. I can't find anyone to help or who understands. Much appreciated if you could point me in the right direction since you found help in Australia. Thanks Megan.
I'm wondering the same, who did you see in Australia please?
@@moongazer321 The Body Fixer and The Dental Station
@@beljane The Body Fixer and The Dental Station. Both in Sydney. I had replied to Megan weeks ago but my replied seemed to go missing.
Cranium is absolutely impacted
Hello Neal, lot´s of particular details in the last 2 Videos from You & the Doc´s! really appreciated about the Content - Europe/Germany needs also this Specialist´s like You & Peter :)
Thank you. I agree with you on that point.
thank you so much for these videos it’s life changing!!
Hi Neal, how many weeks/months were you wearing the splint before getting changes in muscles around the jaw and neck?
And what are the musts for the splint? Are these 3 the ones:?
1. As thin as possible
2. Position on the lower jaw
3. Correct when lower and upper front teeth are perfectly above each other
Would like to hear!
Hi Neal, can you please share the link for the longer version? Thank you!!
The one important question Neal: The splint can help turn the neck off and make the rest of the body relax. But is that also the case if we're talking about an ascending jaw issue, for example if you have a overactive jaw & neck due to a trauma that you had in your leg and you started lifting your body weight to the other site? Or does it only work if you have a jaw/teeth issue that is the origin of your problems?
In my thinking process, it should not make a difference where the origins was, because everything in the body is connected, and once the brain has a new pattern that is saved down, it will stay in the new position even if you remove the origin of your problems.
Neal, I'm not sure where you are on your dental/airway journey, but there a few more factors at play than what you have discussed on your channel. I am somewhat familiar with PRI as well as the work of Racobado and have undergone a lot of the therapy you describe myself. Out of over twenty years experience treating myofacial, TMJ, and now airway related oral functional issues, I believe some of the cause and effects you describe can be understood through a different lens. I don't know who you saw in NY, but there are people up your way who can help you in a comprehensive and predictable manner. Please reach out to me if your would like to discuss further.
Hey Jim, would love to chat with you about this. What’s the. Best way to get in contact?
is this the full interview? it seems like its cuts off early at the end?
whats the correct sleeping postion for better breathing
Hi Neal ,
Does it mean that the best way to get neutral is to train our nervous system(sensoriel…) to sense the position where our body is stuck so that we can move it where we want
In other words it is like we awaken it,we train it to sense better?
That's really what PRI does, retrains the nervous system for proper movement through "re-sensing" what has been lost.
Can hollow chest affect the pelvic floor to make it tight and have pressure imbalances?@@NealHallinan
@@deepshadow1same question. Poland syndrome/ pectus excavatum
@@ste6734 can explain more?
Dear Neal, at 1:46 when you mentioned how the front teeth come really far down, ive just been referred to an airway specialist and had photos and xrays taken, and this is exactly what i have. Maxilla that's too narrow, high bolted roof, retruded jaw and upper teeth almost fully covering lower in a bite. Can i ask, did Dr Peter mention what's recommended for a patient like this?
He did not mention it. I don't think there is a "one size fits all" solution. He might do some online consulting. You could contact his office and inquire about it.
Expansion Orthodontics worked wonders on me. I was a victim of RETRACTIVE ORTHO as a child. My breathing and TMJ were severely compromised for most of my adult life. AIRWAY is everything.
Unfortunately, many Ortho providers have minimal training in this area, and ignore the tongue space, oropharynx and airway. The CBCT imaging can actually measure and evaluate airway space both before and after Ortho Tx, and should be an essential part of any Ortho program.
Some people will need Maxillary/Mandibular advancement surgery to obtain optimum results. This is why kids need evaluation at a very young age- NOT when they are 10-12 years old. Working with the natural growth of the face and jaws (of which most occurs before age nine) is essential to avoid breathing and sleep issues.
I have been a Dental Hygienist since 1985, and now focus on providing Orofacial Myofunctional Therapy for children, teens and adults with similar issues.
Where are you located Linda? I have had so much damage to my mouth by bad dentists, and last had a mouthpiece made for my issues. Turns out I am allergic to the silicone. (I had implants after cancer in 2009 which were killing me, out in 2018, my mouth crashed in early 2018. I need a great dentist that understands the connection. The left side of my jaw and right hip/ psoaz are in bad shape. I need to fix my mouth but so far all I get is more damage and much, much less funds… I am terrified of dentists.
@@NealHallinan sorry Neal, one more question. I've always wondered what "molar sense"/ "canine sense" means. Since our teeth aren't supposed to be touching in neutral, what does it mean when "we cant sense our molars"?
@@HappyStar441very interested if you find someone to help. I had 4 implants that caused a decade of severe disabling body pain
You mention the l9nger version. Where is the " longer versio"? Thank you.
Are these splints safe for the TMJs/condyles?
Also Neal, did you get your crossbite fixed with dental interventions?
@@googleadmin1515hello! May I ask what is Eva material? I was wondering about these being toxic. Please and thank you!
A lot of the symptoms you describe make it seem like I am in need of a mandibular splint. Do I just see a normal dentist for this or a specialist?
would cycling to music intentionally achieve the same rhythmic alignment or does it require the force of the foot against the ground to activate fully? 🤔🤔
Is it ok to remove 3 wisdom teeth that are making more contact than any other teeth when I bite and inbalancing my bite
You have help me so much; but the molar technique is incredible.
Why don't orthopedic doctors know what you know. You need to educate them because I've wasted 20 years of my life in pain for no reason.
I had a great workout today with no pain using a cut up night guard just placing them over my back molars and finally they touched. Is there someone you can recommend in California to make one of the splints? I live near Newport Beach ,California is there a PRI therapist here?
One thing I don't understand. If some people need a splint to have the correct bite and right sensations in the mouth, doesn't it mean they have to wear the splint all the time and if they stop the bite will fall apart? I haven't noticed you Neal wearing the splint anymore (or do you do it only at night). Basically, my confusion is whether the splint can have lasting results or you will get even more dependant on external jaw support?
From what I understand, it depends on how patterned you are and if you have any other things keeping you stuck. I wear my splint during the day, and my neck relaxes somewhat. If i stop wearing it for a few days I feel myself falling onto my right side again and head moving back. Still trying to work out what else is at play.
Yes, there should be lasting results. All props are used to help the body "connect" certain areas, and bring them online, so to speak.
There are many built-in redundancies, so you can start from various places, but eventually all systems need to be in sync. Also, every change in the body needs to be accompanied by adjustments above the neck, and especially in the eyes. Eyes are somehow connected to the teeth, and even without using any mouth devices, you can witness a radical reshaping of the gums and dental arches that happens via different pathways.
One last thing, the body will let you know exactly what needs to shift and in which direction, if you pay attention. It's almost like a Rubik's cube with infinitely many colors, and which is self-solving. There seems to be a blueprint of sorts, stored deep inside the cells, that, when 'activated' triggers a process where movement happens at micro and macro levels, in a fractal like fashion, and the tissue shifts to a place where it 'belongs' . The end result of this self directed metamorphosis is tensional integrity and deep symmetry, at micro and macro scale.
@@vv7299 Excellent explanation 👍
@@Hero_Of_Old Correct. It all comes back to….”it depends”. Depends on the individual’s brain, their health history, postural stability, past athletic endeavors, trauma, etc…
I do not wear mine too often anymore. Sometimes at night, or while doing computer work. The longer you wear it, and the more you reconnect with your body, the more your variability increases and the less your brain relies on “perfect” oral cavity function.
I have an Invisalign retainer and when I wear it my body isn’t as tight but I feel it retracted my teeth which is not good for appearance but I have a worse cross bite when I don’t wear it does anyone know if there is a natural way to correct cross bites🤔
Neal do you have in practice when lateralized left upper back and right hip? i can't find video about it. i had a lot of injuries
What do you think about DTR imaging and therapy?
be curious to know Neal's opinion on DTR dentistry as well.
Hey how are you? I wonder how long does the sensory input to update, I mean, once you fixed the issue through a splint for example, how long does it take to the brain to process and remove pain. Thanks
I went there once. They don't test you or diagnose you or check if you need a splint, they hurry to make you a splint, they guess and hope it works, and it costs a lot of money for nothing really. Please don't waste your money. These people have no clue what they're doing, and just use some weird terminology to sound smart. Check taro iwamoto on youtube instead. Your nervous system is more flexible than you think and can be trained without splints or glasses. Don't get obsessed with your sensory-inputs as your nervous system will adapt to this badly and things will just get worse.
Always sound like im talking through my nose people always ask me if i have a cold. Help!! Never could figure out why.😢
If you haven’t already, practice humming every day
Do you wear glasses?
I’ve got very poor feel on my right heel and outside of right foot. Right foot also much flatter than left and I’ve got anterior tilt on my right hip. Right foot seems shorter. My right teeth don’t touch and are out of alignment. also have sinus issues. Are the foot issues due to the teeth or are the teeth issues due to the feet ? Would a mandibular splint help someone like me ?
When there is a compressed joint a special orthotic is needed. It helps with both asending and desending issues and takes care of the Trifecta of occlusal schemes explained in the podcast series Open Up - a TMJ Discussion. Please take the time to view the 9 minute video. ruclips.net/video/RkTKv-QcYIE/видео.html
Hai @neal hallinan sir
Im 25 years old
Going through whatever u have experienced , but everything on the left side
My left jaw pains , my left shoulder pains , my left hip and left back pains and left knee nowadays
My right shoulder is 2-2.5cm above the left shoulder
Am i in any sort of pattern?
I do have specs , i had orthodontics treatment done when i was young , he imbalanced my jaw by removing only one pre molar on left side and one incisor on left side only
Is that the reason for what iam going through
Im indian , and in india there is no pri but we do have dentist who believe in neuromuscular dentistry
Please reply sir
As of now i have met the dentist and gotten the orthotics
Hey prajwal… i am from india as well… been looking for a dentist for my TMD and deep bite issues… did u have any luck with finding a pri minded dentist… would you be will to share ur experience …
@@rahimasahala3701 I went there once. They don't test you or diagnose you or check if you need a splint, they hurry to make you a splint, they guess and hope it works, and it costs a lot of money for nothing really. Please don't waste your money. These people have no clue what they're doing, and just use some weird terminology to sound smart. Check taro iwamoto on youtube instead. Your nervous system is more flexible than you think and can be trained without splints or glasses. Don't get obsessed with your sensory-inputs as your nervous system will adapt to this badly and things will just get worse.
Where can you buy the splint?
I went there once. They don't test you or diagnose you or check if you need a splint, they hurry to make you a splint, they guess and hope it works, and it costs a lot of money for nothing really. Please don't waste your money. These people have no clue what they're doing, and just use some weird terminology to sound smart. Check taro iwamoto on youtube instead. Your nervous system is more flexible than you think and can be trained without splints or glasses. Don't get obsessed with your sensory-inputs as your nervous system will adapt to this badly and things will just get worse.
Sucks spending over $5k in glasses and dentistry with no guidance after years of chasing cures. And they are wrong
You didn't see pri doctor while
You have?
@@LayLay-ih7jm I’m rural and people like Neal are busy doing bigger things. Australia
Glasses are super cheap these days
@@vv7299 what? Don’t think so for anything quality or your eyes aren’t like mine
$500 usd just for lenses for my sensitivity and balance. Apparently
@friendlyghostkinda you in Australia?
Is there anyone in New Zealand who treats these issues?
Yes patient standing, most of our day is spent erect not supine
neil went from incel to chad no cap
@@googleadmin1515I thought you were calling Neil ugly for a second, you need a comma after "like". Neils a handsome man!
@@googleadmin1515way to over react..
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