The Prequels were objectively fantastic movies. It was just popular to hate them because, to quote George Lucas himself "It's a film for 12 year olds". Ironically the "adults" tended to be FAR more childish than the literal children who watched those films. Because of this, most people don't bother to actually watch them in good faith.
The Star Wars fanbase actually WAS toxic. But not since Disney bought the franchise. It was actually toxic whilst George Lucas was still running the show. Just look at what happened to Jake Lloyd and Ahmed Best. Even whilst The Clone Wars series was in its prime, the Prequel haters wouldn't shut the hell up because "politics bad, Jar Jar annoying, Hayden Christiansen whiney, wah wah wah!" George Lucas himself confirmed that it was partially the childish and excessive hatred for the Prequels that caused him to sell Star Wars. Disney WISHES they had the toxic fanbase that George Lucas had. If they did, they'd actually have a reason to lash out instead of needing to resort to pathetic accusations of racism and sexism. George never lashed out because he's a professional but he had every reason to do so. Thanks a lot, Prequel haters. You idiots are just as responsible for Star Wars' death as Disney is. The only guy who had the courage, integrity and self-awareness to go on camera and admit this for all the world to see was Jeremy Jahns. To quote the man himself; "We paved the way for them. We validated them. We gave them the green light!"
Couldn’t say it better myself. I am deeply saddened by what Star Wars has become. Oh well, at least I still have Warhammer 40k. I hear it will finally come to the big screen with Henry Caville directing it, so I have high hopes that the God Emperors great works won’t be sullied like Star Wars was by the Disney’s virtue signaling and nonexistent plot. Also, the new dune stuff was cool and I have high hopes for the second one
@@tomnorton4277 At least it wasn't as bad when Lucas was in charge. Nowadays the fascists have taken over the place. And the movies are so bad that they make the prequels look good.
To me, The Mandalorian was enjoyable for ONLY the first 2 seasons. After the 3rd season...nope. it was perfect at the end of the second season. Andor was ok, but it needed a bit more SW main ingredients.
My wife is from China, she had never seen Star Wars before. We watched episodes 1-6 together in that order, she ate it up, loved it. Then we watched 7-9 and she hated it, completely lost all interest. That summed Disney Star Wars up for me perfectly.
I've lost my passion after the last 3 movies. No more cosplay for me anymore. I don't know if it's because I'm getting older or just not the same passion for a dying franchise.
The first movie I remember seeing with my mother in a theater was Return Of The Jedi almost 40 years ago. I was 8 years old and neither of us had seen the previous two movies. As a kid, I didn’t remember much about the plot. Instead, I remembered the visuals: The opening scene, Jabba The Hutt, the speeder bike chase, the lightsaber duel, the massive battle that led to the destruction of Death Star II, and the final scene. However, what I remember most was the crowd reaction from a packed theater to Palpatine’s death. When Anakin threw the Emperor down that well, it sounded like 75,000 people cheering on a sporting event. I haven’t experienced a reaction in a theater like that since then. When the first trailer for Rise of Skywalker was released, I watched it on my phone. As I heard Palpatine cackle at the end of the trailer, I almost threw my phone across the room. Star Wars was over for me at that moment. I wasn’t going to destroy that explosion of joy from Palpatine’s death in a theater in 1983 by seeing the new movie. …So May The 4th Be With You and don’t get me started on Star Trek! 😬.
I saw it 40 years ago too. And then in the theater last week. My dad and I watched it with an eye on how it is dated. All we could really see is some obvious rotoscoping especially the speeder bike scenes. And some stop motion neither of which is very noticeable and I like it actually. The special edition changes I hated but even with those it was 10000000 times better than Disney Star Wars. You rightly call out Palpatine but even back in The Force Awakens they tried to ruin ROTJ. The Leia/Han romance is the only healthy, beautiful romantic relationship in the saga. And the first thing Disney did was destroy it. They made the greatest romance a tragedy and the greatest hero a bitter failure. Rather than allow for the new generation to have their own accomplishments, they tear down the heroes of the previous generation.
From the very moment they announced an “Episode VII” with the original cast, I had a pretty good feeling I was going to hate it, because it must necessarily undo the happy ending to Episode VI. Implied in that final shot of Han, Leia, Luke, Lando, and the droids dancing with the Ewoks are the words, “and they all lived happily ever after.” For gods’ sakes I still don’t know what the First Order actually IS, even after seeing all three movies. They simply resurrected the Empire because they wanted that same dynamic of the original trilogy.
I'm glad you had that experience with rotj! Funny how I really can't mention an iconic, memorable, larger than life moment in the sequels or much of any Disney star wars but there's too much to count in the originals or even the prequels!!
@@claykeough7898 I was even trying to pick apart the two big criticisms of the film: Ewoks and Luke’s plan to save Han. Sure, it makes no sense to deliberately imprison Chewy, 3PO and R2 on the hope that R2 will be within lightsaber throwing range and Leia will have a handy chain. If Leia was successful, would they have had to go back for Chewy? Still, maybe he had a plan and this was all an improvisation, we just didn’t need a scene of Luke planning it. As for the Ewoks, I think they do stretch credulity but mainly because of the limitations of the costumes and movement. They sometimes look like they can barely walk but if they had been depicted as silent, fast, agile forest dwelling natives, it would have worked, like Amazonian tribes.
@@henrygambles3652 bad batch has the the same problem as clone war its good but you can tell it made mainly for a younger viewers. But this Coming from someone who has only whatched session 1. Also did anyone else think the padawan voice didn't fit like at all
When me and my friends left the theater after watching TFA, on the car ride home it was literally all we could talk about. How cool the new characters were, the fight scenes, how excited we were for the next film… When TLJ came out we’d ran out of things to say about it before we got to the car. Some of them said they liked it, but I was left with this hollow feeling, like something was wrong. Then Mauler uploaded his Unbridled Rage video and everything began to make sense lol
@@navylaks2 Even when the critique videos for TFA came out and they mentioned that it was literally a copy of A New Hope, I didn’t care, I still loved it. After TLJ, I slowly realized that TFA completely destroys the original trilogy by undoing everything Luke, Han and Leia achieved. It’s pretty sad to think about
@@kingkwon8002 Yeah I started to take the YT critics side of things pretty early on after TFA came out but I was still interested in TLJ even if I thought the critics were right. I wanted to be proven wrong essentially. I wasn't. The sequels got worse as they went on.
Same. TFA was good in that it wasn't a bad film, and it set up enough pieces to build something really good. But only if that happened would TFA remain good. Maybe even become great.... unfortunately we got TLJ and just like you I walked out disturbed from the theater... I have never been so quiet after a movie..... the movie started me on the road of just not caring about any of the "new" star wars...
Star Wars was a great franchise that existed between 1977 and 2012. The last lesson Star Wars teaches us is that everything comes to an end at some point and stories don't always continue. Appreciate Star Wars as it was and disregard everything released after 2012.
This is why I’ve gone back to collecting as much legends material I can. Replaying kotor or reading darth plagueis and the trawn trilogy rekindled my love for Star Wars. More than I can say for any soulless crap Disney pumps out.
It is not his fault that there are people who did not like the films! It is not because there are people who do not like the films that the films are bad! I find them really excellent! I'm tired of toxic people being mean for no reason! Oh yes because they have a shitty life and have nothing better to do with their lives than to ruin the lives of other people!
I would love animated adaptations of stuff like the Darth Bane trilogy, Plageuis, Thrawn trilogy and New Jedi Order among others, but Disney seems content on keeping Legends in the grave, rather than letting it exist and continue as its own separate timeline.
@@ManiacMayhem7256 You wanted Disney to do fanservice basically! I don't understand why the claim that The Force Awakens is just a copy and paste of A New Hope! You're not happy because you can't accept other people's vision. That's completely mature of you! It's not Disney's fault that you can't respect other people's vision! It's just your fault! But you just want to make excuses for not admitting that you're the one at fault! That's also why you say it's other people's fault! Because of an ego problem! That's the facts! That's why you and others say it's Rian Johnson, J.J. Abrams and Kennendy's fault when they didn't do anything wrong! You gotta love it, The Mandolorian and The Book of Bobba Fett, it's full of fanservice! Oh yeah... You're going to tell me no because it's not the fanservice YOU wanted!
The people who fell for the "Grogu effect" are the exact people Disney wants as fans - people who are easy to manipulate, and who will buy unnecessary merchandise because "he's so cute". Dragging out the Grogu/Mando story for 3 seasons is an exercise in actual insanity... "How long can we lead these donkeys around the farm before they lose interest and give up?" It's funny, but sad too. People don't watch Star Wars for characters or stories - they watch it for imagery, and imagery alone. They were fooled, over and over, by shallow re-imaginings based on things that already existed, and some of them will never clue in and see that they've been had.
Gotta admit, I'm obsessed with Grogu. However, growing up with the Clone Wars I can distinguish between good and bad Star Wars. Disney lost me almost completely at this point. I still watch Grogu compilations on yt tho 😂
Well, I went into Mando expecting to hate Grogu for being an obvious marketing icon, but I ended up liking him. He's a great counterpart to Din's hardened warrior persona, and fits Star Wars' themes well. My biggest issue with Mando is that it will still inevitably lead to the trilogy, so I have to reject it regardless of whether I think it's good or not.
It's embarrassing, but I admit I was charmed for Grogu charm during season 1 but I stayed because of Din charm. But after Mandalorian proves itself as worst as sequel Im dropping Mandalorian
I recently rewatched Return of the Jedi, and I fell in love with Star Wars again. The magic of this story culminating in the final episode was a great experience. And it always will be.
"I recently rewatched Return of the Jedi, and I fell in love with Star Wars again. The magic of this story culminating in the final episode was a great experience. And it always will be." Based, Return Of The Jedi is my most favourite Star Wars movie of all time and the TRUE ending of the Skywalker Saga movies. Only the first 6 Skywalker Saga movies are canon, in my eyes.
I recently had my girlfriend watch the two made-for-TV Ewok (with Warwick Davis as Wicket) movies (from the 80s) written and produced by George Lucas himself and she enjoyed them a heck of a lot more than anything Disney Star Wars that she has seen already. ✌️
You are so spot on. That’s coming from someone who was too young for the first two but saw Return of the Jedi three times back in ‘83. The thing I find the worst, is the spitefulness of the Disney trilogy. I left FA thinking it was ok but why did they make Han a failure and kill him? I left LJ thinking, was that even a Star Wars movie? I left Rise thinking it was a joke and finally realising the truth. Disney actually hates those like me. That realisation actually helped me give up on them. Like getting rid of a toxic drug dealer.
The Last Jedi is Spaceballs 2. Think about it. All you need is a studio audience laugh track. Luke tossing the lightsaber over his shoulder. (Laugh!) Green tit milk. Finn squirting all over the deck. (Laugh!) Carry Poppins (Big laugh for that one). "Let's free all these animals from the casino, but leave the children in slavery." (Haheeaahehha!) Cut Snoke in half. Benny Hill music during the throne room fight scene. Press Big Red Button To Destroy Entire Imperial Fleet. Gorilla walkers. Kiss during the big fight (ROTFL!) Kylo fights a ghost and doesn't know it. Rey is more awesome than any man ever was (The Force is Female!). Everyone died; let's have a party! Weeee! Ludicrous speed! Roll credits.
I’m right there with you. The way I find myself getting through this dismal period in the history of this beloved franchise is that I really only look at the media that Lucas was heavily involved in as “true Star Wars” (prequels, OT, Clone Wars). Those are the stories he, Lucas, wanted to tell. Everything else is merely poorly done fan fiction.
I sure hope you find it in your heart to read and watch some of the expanded universe. He was involved in several of thoughs and every single one went through his approval. TCW is good but man it pales in comparison to the CWMMP, which includes the 2003 cartoon microseries. Thrawn trilogy, New Jedi Order, Plageuis, Labyrinth of Evil and Darth Bane trilogy are masterpieces
TCW is great and all, but what I hate about Dave Filoni is his complete disregard for non-film and TV Star Wars content. He completely retconned two of my favorite Star Wars books with Tales of the Jedi. And if you go back further, expanded universe fans hate TCW because it retconned a lot of extended universe books and comics. And Disney had promised to be considerate to different parts of the canon. It's a shame because Dooku: Jedi Lost and the Ahsoka novel would have made great TV adaptations and may have actually increased book sales
I think you pretty much nailed it here. I think one of the big problems is that Disney is more interested in making money. George was more interested in quality stories.
If we're being honest, George was interested in both. And that's okay. You can have both. The thing is, the better the movie, the more money it makes. So the oft-repeated "Disney is just interested in making money" doesn't hold up. If Disney had properly respected Han, Luke & Leia & the canon & tradition, they'd have made $Billions more on those movies. So, I'm going to respectfully disagree with your take.
No, Disney was more interested in promoting woke ideology. They thought they could add toxic woke ideas into Star Wars and still make a lot of money. But they were wrong and ended up killing the goose that laid the golden eggs. Go woke and go broke.
Actually, the problem is Disney seems surprisingly disinterested in making money, and focuses much more on pushing a very cringey ideology with no apparent regard for audience reaction. If they wanted to make money, they'd give the audience what they want. Instead, they give audiences what their commissars think the audience should see.
@@colonelquack He changed that story from Wookiees to Ewoks specifically to move more toys. Sadly, by the time Return of the Jedi came around, Lucas was driven by toy marketing rather than story crafting, and just wanted to wrap the whole thing up rather than continue with the second trilogy. The original plan was for the sister referred to by Yoda to be introduced in a second trilogy. Leia wouldn't be related to Luke at all, and would be a queen, while Luke would set off to find his sister. He'd train her as a Jedi, and the two would kill the Emperor in the third movie. The Emperor wasn't even supposed to make an appearance in the third film, and remain a shadowy, scary threat in the background-- a set up for the second trilogy. Pretty epic.
I use to love watching the original 3 at the cabin on rain days. I just re-watched them but started with Rogue 1. The only newer star wars movie I actually liked. It was a good order to re-watch the original 3.
@@mishynaofficial Nah. Prequels are awesome. I’m sure Lucas’s finale would have also actually been a Star Wars film. Unlike what we’ve had since his departure.
As a writer and business owner, I know a company does not purposely try to fail but these companies seem like they are trying very hard. In my company, if an employee is performing badly and loses my company thousands of dollars then I’ll definitely fire them. But these companies seems to be failing upwards and not trying to turn around for the better
Kathleen Kennedy didn’t lose thousands she lost millions possibly more yet she is still there any sane boss would have thrown her out damn anything else but nope
See but here’s a key problem. I feel like yes it’s the employees like the writers, directors, and etc. but the real problem is the Executive/CEOs at Disney there the one who controls everything thing and they won’t see themselves as the problem so they won’t quit especially with how much money they be making.
@@BusinessMan_ForthePeopleWhen you are a radical left winger ideologue, it would be your duty to evangelize your politics subtly to the masses. Kennedy (plus her acolytes/Hollywood Reporter) and Iger are the rot from inside Disney that will continue to fester.
I think what's happening is that people who want to intentionally destroy these franchises and demoralize their fans buy up all the stock in these companies so that they can do just that.
Beyond a big deal, tbh. If you add up all the ticket sales & profits of the top 10 movies in 1977, Star Wars is responsible for over 50% of the take. 50%! 9 of the other top 10 movies all added together couldn't match it. No other movie has EVER done that.
I just saw Return of the Jedi on re-release and there was a joy from the audience,(it was nearly full) that I have not felt since The Force Awakens. Disney really fumbled this franchise.
Same here. Went to the 40th anniversary showing last week. And even though I've seen ROTJ 50 times, there was still an excitement and energy that was completely non-existent for all the Disney sequel & spin-off movies.
@@DaMaster012 Toxic people destroy Star Wars, not Disney! It is not his fault that there are people who did not like the films! It is not because there are people who do not like the films that the films are bad! I find them really excellent! I'm tired of toxic people being mean for no reason! Oh yes because they have a shitty life and have nothing better to do with their lives than to ruin the lives of other people!
I'm from an older generation, before yours. I watched the original Star Wars in the cinema in the late 70's. I was very young and it meant the world to me between the ages of 6-13. Then I grew up and found other interests, but Star Wars was still there. I always had very fond memories of it, I still get goosebumps from scenes like the binary sunset. I've come to realize, even my morals were informed by it. *It was important.* I just didn't realize how important until I watched what Disney has done to it. Star Wars used to be something to be inspired by. To be catapulted into this fantastic realm of adventure and wonder, with an uplifting message of hope and benevolence at its core. Imagine a son growing up to become a shining knight, saving his father from darkness. Primal stuff. Especially important for youngsters. Disney has managed to utterly ruin it, at almost every conceivable level. They probably couldn't have done a better job even if that was their intention.
@@mishynaofficial The prequels missed the mark by quite a bit. Hugely disappointing, yes. I remember growing numb when they started talking midichlorians in TPM. However, they weren't insulting. They didn't shit on everything the original trilogy stood for. As for the EU, I don't know much about it.
@@HunterZolomon that's true. They didn't shit on everything, just the Force and the magic of it, and the viewers imagination, and the core ideas of it, oh, and the Jedi, also ruined a few iconic characters, and shrunk the galaxy, but nothing of an importance, nuh. Well, the main problem with EU was taking away the discourse. But now that SW has been filled with garbage so badly, it doesn't matter anymore. The discourse isn't about the original deep ideas, and not even about all the lightsaber fap and other sci-fi worldbuilding bs, it's mostly about who hates who. The meaning among fans is lost forever.
@@mishynaofficial you fr bro clone wars was the best thing that happened to SW, if disney was smart they'd have just made ep 7 8 9 about another war like that, but between the fledgling republic and the first order. Not another borefest about light side vs dark
Star Wars is always part of my life. I have been a massive fan since I was 7, and to this day, I'm so glad I grew up with a franchise like this that changed my life and will never leave me.
When the topic of the "magic" of Star Wars came up I felt moved. For I love the original six films, and they will have a place in my heart that no other stories might be able to fill, but the Last Jedi washed the taste of Star Wars out of my mouth. I watched Star Trek the Original Series to see what else I could enjoy, and I was sucked into Star Trek much in the same way that I had been for Star Wars. But alas, not even Star Trek was safe from it's "magic" being stolen away. I may use quotation marks when discussing magic, but mark my words, the magic of human nature is very real. George Lucas managed to harness it, so did JRR Tolkien, Gene Roddenberry, Sydney Newman, JK Rowling and so many more. They harnessed a unique magic and allowed us all to express it fully. Watching the Mandalorian season 3 and Picard season 3 I found myself in an odd position, the Mandalorian didn't even fight to reclaim the magic of Star Wars and so I didn't care all that much for it. But Star Trek Picard brought back the Next Generation Cast and fought tooth and nail to reclaim the magic from the past, and it somehow managed to do so, for however, brief that time, I felt that magic once more and was moved to tears on several occasions while watching it. At the end of the day, the original six movies made by Goerge Lucas will always be magical, and I hope that future generations can take from our generation (the one that enjoyed that magic for the first time) that magic with them and be able to enjoy the story that happened a long time ago, in a galaxy far far away...
There is one original film not six, one original trilogy. The prequels were maligned in their day just like the recent trilogy, people even hated on return of the Jedi when it came out. Some Star Wars Fans are just unhappy people who are unhappy with anything it appears. If you need fictional charge and stories to make you feel complete then idk what to tell you.
@@achaudhari101 so you do agree that being Better than whatever disney is producing under the guise of Star Wars, is not a high bar? Well glad you agree with us on something
You have expressed all of my feelings towards star wars so accurately. I don't care about the new stuff but my love and appreciation for George Lucas's Star Wars has grown. I watch the original 6 movies probably every month
Star Wars feels like going back to the small town you grew up in, with so many happy memories with friends and family, the corner store that sold bottle cap sodas, the fishing hole, the bike trail, the record store... And seeing it all bulldozed and replaced with a shopping mall and freeway. The happy highways where I went And cannot come again
I've turned my Star Wars love towards Denis Villeneuve's Dune films. If the second is anywhere near as good as the first, they will be two of the greatest Sci Fi/Fantasy films ever made. (With the same cinematographer as Rogue One). I can only imagine how good a sequel Trilogy of Star Wars, or any Star Wars trilogy or film could be if it was treated with the same level of respect and gravitas and seriousness as Denis is doing with Dune. The epic worlds and shots that could be put on the big screen in the SW world are almost infinite. The things you could do with ancient desert, snow, jungle planets and old Jedi temples. The sword fights and sky battles.....with someone like Denis in charge to fill those ideas with good stories...with the backing of Disney funds....a franchise like SW should be raking in money right now. With new blockbuster film every year that is consistently hitting out of the park. It's almost unbelievable how badly Disney and Kathleen Kennedy have screwed it up.
Same here with Dune, although I also rediscovered Warhammer 40 000 and actually dove into the intricate lore. I'd say that has become my surrogate Star Wars, even more so than Dune. Dune is still awesome though!
@@worldeater2046 Yes, bro Warhammer 40k. Where did you start? I'd like to start reading the books but have no idea where to begin. I can add to my audible list right now!
This was in my recommended. I must say I agree with every single point you made. I saw Return of The Jedi in theaters for it's 40th Anniversary recently. Man, I miss that escapism movies gave me as a kid. Subbed!!
I feel like Obi-wan in the beginning of A New Hope wistfully remembering what the Jedi were before lamenting, "before the dark time. Before the empire." Great video.
Great video. I agree with pretty much everything you’ve said. I was a kid of the perfect age when the first movie was released in 1977. It was a revelation. It defined my life in some ways. I was one of the first die-hards (among millions of others). I was excited for the Prequels but felt a bit let down. Still, my love of Star Wars and interest in new stories was strong. With the Force Awakens, I almost felt like the original, adventurous spirit of the original films had returned. I was very excited to see the answers to the questions presented in TFA come to fruition. Then Disney let Ryan Johnson helm the next movie, without a pre-planned over-arching story, and he burned Star Wars to the ground. The third sequel tried to correct things but too much damage had been done. I watched Mandalorian and enjoyed it, mostly. Book of Boba Fett was garbage. I thought there was no way that Disney could not give the Kenobi/Vader story the gravitas it deserved but was sadly mistaken. After Kenobi, I was out. Haven’t watched Andor. Haven’t watched the new season of Mandalorian. I’ve decided that continuing to watch new Star Wars, under the cluelessly-astray Disney, will only taint my love for the first movies. I never thought I’d see the day when I wouldn’t be interested in new Star Wars films and stories but that day has come. I will no longer be an active participant in Disney’s assault on my, and many others, love for Star Wars.
I'll never forget the first time I saw Star Wars. I was in a babysitter's house while waiting for my parents to come home, she put on a tape of the Return of the Jedi. Even though I think it's a flawed film, moreso than any of the other of the OT, it's still my favourite, there's just a fantastic warmth that's impossible for me to describe.
I think you're spot on with all of this. Its a shame Disney had to waste such a good franchise. Btw it sounds like you would fit in well with the EFAP crew
great video. The 2005 DVDs of the Original Trilogy that have the Original versions on the bonus discs, I hunted them down a few years ago and it's how I'm gonna stay. Worth every cent.
I have so many thoughts on your wonderful video , but the first thing I have to say is THAT feeling you described after seeing TLJ ……. I remember being excited for that day . I had marathoned all the Star Wars movies and clone wars over the previous 6 months . I was a HUGE Star Wars fan . I understood people’s criticisms of TFA but really enjoyed the film . I saw the trailers and they looked interesting and epic (I had huge expectations for Crete and Luke’s return )and the reviews where amazing . 2 hours and 20 some minutes later I felt like a neighbors dog that I loved had been put to sleep and I’d been forced to watch it happen . I stumbled out of the theater in a daze . Not even mad or angry , just numb . I honestly thought maybe I’d been pranked . Like Disney sent out the wrong version of the film cause there was no way that could be the film . After walking out of the theater my enthusiasm for Star Wars was killed and I only get semi interested if it’s a video game or show that works in some prequel era content or characters . I’ll never get how KK still has a job and how anyone could praise or enjoy the Disney era
Exactly. Crestfallen… is how I describe my state as I sat there in disbelief watching the credits after TLJ. I had my criticisms and complaints about TFA, but I enjoyed it more than not and still loved Star Wars and anxiously looked forward to more. From one absurd insulting slit in the eye if the legacy scene to the next of TLJ I could not believe what I saw. I was stunned. In a hundred different ways, simply stunned. While trying to process it, my final thoughts / words as I walked out of the theatre were “that’s it (!?)” and “it’s over. Star Wars is over”. There was no need if reason to make anymore. Literally. Period. I was so confused and unwilling to believe it I actually bought the dvd when it came out hoping to prove myself wrong. Nope. My fears were confirmed. My fear turned to anger and that anger turned to hate. I unbelievably now basically hate Star Wars. That was the last SW item I’ve ever bought and regret it.
Yeah you nailed it. Its one of the only films Ive come out of the cinema not knowing if I liked it or not. Subsequent rewatches confirmed that I think its fine as an action adventure but its just not in the same league as the OT. And then whatever potential they built up with it they completely waster with TLJ....
This video hit the nail on the head, well done. George’s films and wider vision cannot and will not be tarnished. However, whereas you sound hopeful things might change, I am done with all things cinematic (movies, tv shows etc.), but some of the games and books still hold up.
Spot on. I grew up in the late 70's and 80's and back then,Star wars was everything. It was fun and impactful. And even with the prequels,despite how flawed they are,they still have that magic. But I felt exactly as you do. Everything now has to be woke and Star wars has been stuffed down our throats. I did go see the Force awakens,but after that I lost interest as well. It seems to me that Disney ruins everything it touches these days.
I have too, I was a "Nerd" Back when it wasn't cool at all, in fact if you was you got relentlessly bullied, and being in a situation like that Star Wars was a nice "friend" to have. Saying goodbye to it because I can't stand Disney and their behaviour(Because it reminds me a lot of the bullies in fact) Is hard. But It's what It's
Some Star Wars fans are incredible bullies. Just ask the actors and actresses of the prequels. We’re pretending now the prequels were beloved but they were not, that’s just a fact. You can even read reviews of the prequels from back then, many of which say GL killed his own movie franchise
I agree 100% with everything you say here Jesterbell! So glad there are those of a younger generation who still appreciate the original trilogy. Imagine someone of my generation (I'm 62) who saw it when it first came out - KABOOM! None of us had seen anything like it before! It blew everyone away! I'm so glad that the original trilogy still has similar reaction in younger generations like yourself😊. P.S. I actually really enjoyed Andor, but maybe that's just because all the other TV series were so bad. Pity though (and ironic) that it was the least 'Star Warsy' of all the TV series.
I saw Episode IV in the theater in 1977 as a 7 year old- it’s the only element of mainstream pop-culture that is truly part of my identity, and I am having a really hard time with needing to not care even as I know I have no choice 😭
I was 14 when the first Star Wars came out in 1977. If you weren't around then you can hardly imagine the impact that it had then. It totally blew me away when I saw it for the first time. This was the affect it had on everyone. There were long lines to get into the theater. Everyone was talking about it. Everyone loved it: Democrats, Republicans, Black, white, old, young, whatever. Even my mom and dad liked it, and they lived during WWII. My dad hooted with laughter at certain scenes like the Tatooine bar and the wookie growling at the tiny droid on the death star. Even people who were not into science fiction liked it. One has to realize that at that time, good special effects were rare because they were expensive. Lucas spared no expense in the making of it. We appreciated good special effects more then due to the rarity unlike people today who are blaze' about them because they are so used to them. I think it was so much better then because the movies were the creation of one man. That made it more coherent. Now it is made by committees and has the feel of a cumbersome bill voted on by congress. Today, also, so much is agenda driven; and our country is divided. That wasn't the case back then. We were one country then so it was easier to tell a story we would all like.
I know a lot of people accept the prequels because they came out when they were 12, but those movies are also to blame for the fall of Star Wars. They're terribly written and do more to remove the mystery and wonder from the original trilogy than anything Disney has done.
I hear ya @@RickyNuggets!Sometimes it’s hard not to cringe at some of the writing in the prequels (the lovers rolling in the Hills are Alive scene in Ep2 😖). But StarWars survived.. .
Thanks for making this. I feel similarly and it makes me very sad. Star Wars was something that our dad shared with us from a young age because he had loved it whilst he was a kid and we loved it because it was really the only kid-thing that he liked and we could share with him. As we grew up we kept that love as our own, but with Disney's constant barage of disrespect for the property--the low-budget appearing Boba Fett show (which should have been cool as shit), or the worst crime of all, the squandering of the Obi Wan show--how could I continue to watch while they showed no respect for the characters who we loved? I watched season 3 of mandalorian, but was so disappointed, even though I was expecting to be. I wish Star Wars hadn't been sold to Disney to become a shell of its self; to be lifeless and basic. It is really sad. But we will always have the good movies and the joy that they brought us growing up.
Thank you for this video essay. You captured the heart and soul of our youth and the grieving of watching our myths die and be turned into nothing. Thank you.
I saw A New Hope in 1977 on opening night at a drive-in. I was hooked from that moment (I was 9 years old). Star Wars always meant something special to me because I was at the beginning of the phenomenon and stuck with it through to the end of Return of the Jedi. I kind of mourned the end of Star Wars figures and Star Wars in general but found other Sci-Fi and fantasy that captivated me too. When Star Wars returned I was not as invested after The Phantom Menace but it drew me back in with AOTC and ROTS. The Clone Wars was something I watched with my son and we watched the original movies many times over. But when Disney Star Wars came it changed. Star Wars wasn't Star Wars anymore. Leia was cold and bitter. Luke was an angry and bitter failed man. Han was a deadbeat dad who lost his prize ship. R2-D2 embodied my feelings about Disney Star Wars in that he just shut down. Disney never really recaptured the magic of Star Wars and was trying too hard to make it their own. My own opinion is that they never really have come close to A New Hope and never will. I liked the first season of The Mandalorian but it's back to being Disney junk now. The Last Jedi and Rise of Skywalker are such bad movies that they can't be taken seriously. I picked up a Star Wars figure the other day and put it back on the shelf - not just because it is ridiculously overpriced but because Star Wars is a brand and not a beloved movie anymore. It's just another thing that Disney wrecked to make money or push Kennedy's agenda. I have also stopped caring about something I used to love.
Agreed. Totally. I saw A New Hope in the cinema as a 16 year old when it first came out....blew me away so much I can't describe. Changed my life. Unfortunately the Disney version is a cynical, post-modern destruction of my (and many others') memories and dreams. Andor maybe is an exception - in quality at least - yet it doesn't really capture the flavour of the originals. So sad.
Same here, bro. It's depressing and demoralizing to see something so universally loved become a weapon of destruction in the hands of evil depraved people (Disney). I do love Filoni's work on Clone Wars though.
To kind of support this, I have the DVDs for Episodes 1-7. I didnt bother getting the last 2. Thats how you know a franchise is dead, when hardcore fans don't even buy the movies to finish a trilogy.
Thanks for sharing. I feel the same way. I miss so much the old days that I went on blogs to find out which books to read to get the famous Master Luke years before Disney in their evil hunger burns them all. What I've come to realize is I love the old stuff because it was Hopeful and centre on family, love, friends and most of all RESPECT. I also cannot shake the feeling that what's being done to the franchise even though seems accidental....is way to precise not to be intentional. And that intention to kill the past, to me, is the breaking point. We went from people working on the project who LOVED the story to people who ENVY the previous owner and wants him erased. If you watch carefully you will see that they never thank George anymore anywhere on their panels and stuff and it is not accidental. It's the envious little brother or little sister complex....I to can be great. Take care and thanks for video.
I agree 100 percent. As some one who was there in 1977 to 1983 when Star Wars came out I can't tell you how right you are these movies really brought people together we fell in love with story and the characters and the world that was given to us. So when I left the theater in 1983 I felt happy and sad happy to see how the story ended and sad because i felt a chapter in my life had come to an end. Now when the prequels came out and yes they have there flaws and I would be the last one to say they are great movies but it still felt like Star Wars. There was a good story and characters there and they added so much to the world of Star Wars so I can still watch them and feel I watched a Star Wars movie. Now after seeing the first two Disney so called Star Wars movies I walked away and never saw the third one. After seeing Disney trash the story and characters I feel in loved with as a kid I did not have the heart to see another Disney Star Wars.
I'm watching this video for the third time now. You just summed it all up perfectly - I was a huge lifelong fan and... now I just don't care anymore. Your video just perfectly drew a line of how I went from a devoted fan to someone who couldn't care less. Thankyou.
I’ve reached the same point. Been disappointed to many times by Disney, hoping they would do the story I love justice. All I can do is enjoy what once was.
You perfectly summed up what we all are feeling. This is a well put together video - It's too bad I can only subscribe just once. EDIT: The blender was a nice touch btw 🤣
thats like saying you like your favourite bed but then someone had a shit on your bed and then people say just sleep on the part that doesn't have shit on it, it ruined the bed even if you can sleep on half of it it doesn't change the fact your bed was ruined and whenever you want to have nostalgia of the bed you will always be reminded of the shit.
🤔 I guess for the prequels it brought the hate together. And let’s be real, those movies have major problems. They look more dated than the OT. But no one deserved the wrath of the Fandom Menace.
I have talked about moving to a new town as a shy kid and star wars was the way that I made friends - it was after New Hope so earlier but same situation. The biggest fight me and my friends ever got in was who was cooler - Luke or Han. after seeing Last Jedi with a group of friends that i had gone to the theater to watch empire, jedi, the re-releases, the prequels and force awakens, i told them i was done
Millions of videos on this subject but yours is probably the best, imo. I'm from 1977 Star Wars. It was there for all my life. It was more important to me than it would make sense to tell people today. I forced myself to sit through years of Disney, I fought my own feelings as much as I could. But one day I turned on yet another show from Disney and realized I couldn't care less about it anymore. That is truly one of the saddest feelings I've ever had about Star Wars. Those 6 Lucas movies will always be among the best things ever put to film, imo.
I loved this, thank you. I remember making a RUclips (or Reddit...one of these) comment a few years ago when I fully realized it, that Disney had done something I never, ever thought could be done. Between my memorizing the words of all three movies when I was a kid in the 80s/90s, to thinking the prequels were decent...to having board games and reading Star Wars books, I still loved the Star Wars universe. But I still remember sitting at my desk and have the realization and writing a comment about how Disney had done something I never thought possible, which was to not hate Star Wars but just....genuinely not care about it anymore. It was a weird/sobering realization. Similar to what you said here. You captured what I feel as well. I don't hate Star Wars but, I just don't care about it anymore. Like it or not, the Disney moves ARE canon. I haven't seen the Rise of Skywalker, as The Force Awakens was the nail in the coffin. I haven't seen any of the offshoot shows, even if I know a couple of them have been decent. But I don't watch it, because I just don't care. Which is sad. Thanks, Disney.
I do agree with most of it, most Star Wars stuff that Disney has made feels hollow... however once in a blue moon something authentic and true to the philosophy of rebellion like Andor comes along.
Andor is actually a good show on it's own it mainly just takes place in the star wars universe, but has little fan service certain elements that are key to star wars jedi sith etc are absent
Great video essay. It was well articulated and I think it represents many fans’ opinions on Star Wars. I haven’t mustered the courage to watch any Star Wars movies since The Rise of Skywalker. It makes me sad knowing how everyone ends up. Obi-Wan also killed any enthusiam/confidence I had left for TV. However, The Mandalorian S1 & 2 are good if you like old fashioned, pulpy, serialized western style of television. The weekly adventure is the story. Any ways, I enjoyed your video!
I saw "Star Wars" in a standing room only the theater where people were literally standing in the isles. The fire marshal had shut the theater the night before, but I guess let it go this time. It wasn't even Episode IV then, just "Star Wars". I was an instant fan and ate up the next two movies. I actually read all the Han Solo books! The toys, everything. I wasn't a huge fan of the Prequals, but my sons sure were. Now... we are bereft of an experience we shared together. Disney Star Wars wasn't just bad, it killed the joy and wonder for us.
People should listen to the radio drama specials for star wars, empire strikes back and jedi.. It's got lots of little bits of information. Like r2d2 sabotaging the other Droid before meeting Luke and Owen so it's motivator failed. R2 was very unethical in pursuit of his mission to obi Wan.
The only media I’ve genuinely liked from the Disney Star Wars era has been the Fallen Order and Survivor video games. I’m not even a gamer but I adore the stories and characters in them and I do think they’re the closest thing this era has gotten to actual Star Wars which is ironic considering the games aren’t even made by Lucasfilm.
There were certain scenes in the last jedi where I legitametely thought I'm watching a parody. I remember this weird feeling of alienation setting in the further the movie got. It was the first time that I watched something that was called "Star Wars" that didn't *feel* like Star Wars.
Andor is literally the only thing of quality that Disney has put out, in my most humble opinion. While a lot of people say it "doesn't feel like Star Wars", I'd argue it's the closest thing to the original trilogy we've ever got, because it actually cares about THE POLITICS. The politics of Star Wars were so important in the beginning, and Andor fleshes out the Empire and makes them feel like a threat again. It got me interested again. I started reading the Thrawn trilogy and a lot more of the EU books. I started playing all the old video games again like KOTOR and Jedi Outcast. I'm so hyped for season two.
Uhhhh…. CW S7, Mando S1&2, Rebels past S2. Plus plenty of comics and games. Just cuz the movies have been bad doesn’t mean there isn’t still good star wars
@Ty Eklund Like I said, in my most humble opinion. Sure the last couple of episodes of CWS7 were great but everything else? The sister arc was awful. That's the problem with all of these is they waste a lot of time on nothing. Andor uses all of its time efficiently and appropriately. That's why I believe it to be quality.
It doesn't matter. Nobody asked for an Andor show to begin with. It's basically like giving Jar Jar his own movie after the Phantom Menace. Nobody will watch it because nobody wanted it.
Yes I agree, Andor was excellent - the other series were trash. But while I agree that yes it covered the politics of Star Wars like the originals, I too felt it a bit...different. Maybe because to me it felt more grown-up. I can't see kids appreciating Andor the way they did the original trilogy. But that's me.
I still like Star Wars, but not the way Disney had done. They don’t care about anything. Everything turned to deaf ears. I’ll just cherish the old and Legends books.
I listen to Thrawn trilogy, tales Of The Jedi books with Ulic Qel-Droma and Nomi Sunrider Luke Skywalker and Mara Jade Adventure “Star War: Survivor's Quest Book” I also listen to Star Wars: Crimson Empire.
Star Wars was one of the biggest things in my life. I loved it so much. I saw Empire in the theater with my parents, one of the last things we did as a family before the divorce. When Zahn's _Thrawn Trilogy_ came out, we hoped it would be the new set of films, and I was excited for it. By 2015 I'd been neck-deep in the EU for over 30 years, sharing the books with my step-sons, playing RPGs, building models... When Disney declared the EU no longer canon I was excited. What could possibly so *amazing* that they could replace the entire EU? What would replace Thrawn, Rogue Squadron, The New Jedi Order, The Vong? What would replace Stackpole, Zahn, Salvatore, Alliston, Tyres, Keyes, Cunningham, etc...? It *must* be epic! TFA happened. I heckled it in the theatre. It was stupid. OK. Well... maybe... No. They're all stupid. When _The Mandalorian_ started I had some hope. Maybe we'll forget the Sequels happened. Maybe we'll move on, tell good stories, salvage something. At least Thrawn made it into Rebels! But this year hurt the most. I realized that _The Mandalorian_ and _The Bad Batch_ were now being hijacked by storylines to make the Sequels happen. They doubled down on the New Republic being stupid, as if 4 years w/o a senate made everyone forget how to run a government. They doubled down on cloning Sheev and Midichlorians. Nothing would ever be free from the abomination of the Sequels. Since _The Convert_ I've been in mourning. It's like a relative who you knew was sick, but you'd hope they would pull through... and then they die, or go mad, and the person you loved is forever lost. I hate it.
I am 100% with you. I feel like Disney has treated SW scripts like Mad-Libs (do you remember those?). I am actually in pain, my soul hurts from what has happened. I had no idea I would feel so empty.
Fantastic review on the subject. Funny how you mentioned the original trilogy as the young man looking for adventure, etc without mentioning princess Leia(who even as a man actually was my favorite character in a new hope and not because of attraction) but my point being these studios just have to tell a good story and create good characters, not shoehorning in bad, unlikable, undeveloped characters for modern identity politics. People don't need to see themselves on the screen to enjoy it! In fact if that's the reason for purchasing a ticket then I feel sorry for you. Thanks for the awesome post!
I felt the same way until last night... At one point in time, I made a tradition to watch the original trilogy once every year. Disney ruined it completely. They infused one of my most beloved franchises with identity politics, dumbed down the universe to a laughable point, filled it with painful story decisions, and most of all: Girl-bosses and Mary Sues on the level on Tumblr fan-fiction. Or as Critical Drinker puts it: *tHe MeSsAgE!* BUT: Last night, I played through Jedi Fallen Order for the first time. I avoided it like the plague until now, even though friends kept telling me it was amazing. The finale had me in tears because it made me remember why I used to love Star Wars in the first place. It showed me that the original spirit is still alive in some people... That a comeback is possible if good writers make it happen. Just not with Disney and their "activist writers." For the first time in a decade, I have hope for Star Wars, just because of one game.
@@achaudhari101 I am totally going to! That's why I played the first one, actually. The only thing is I only got a PC, so I'm waiting for a performance patch because I heard that version is hot garbage right now. Can't have it all, I guess 🤣
I think the reason way both Obi-Wan and Boba Fett were written to be intentionally bad is because like in the sequel they want to denigrate previous character to uplift a new ones Disney made. Also they are using these shows to try to explain things that happened in the sequels. It hurts to know that everything that Luke, Han and Leia did mant nothing in the end and we will never see stories featuring them on adventures again.
I don’t know how you all think the obi wan show was so bad. It definitely had alot of flaws, but it did what was most important, obi wand arc from depression to the hopefully confident man in a new hope
You're wrong about everything Luke, Han & Leia doing meaning nothing. The Disney sequel movies & TV shows aren't canon. They're mega-overpriced "fan-made" movies. They're not true Star Wars logos. They're make-believe. Expensive mimics. They don't take away from the originals. I ignore them.
Excellent video. I've watched many on this topic but for some reason when you talked about how teaching Star Wars was as common as learning how to swim it made me emotional. I was 8 when the originals came out and remember the bond that it formed, often between people with nothing else in common. Why is it always so hard to recognize the good times when we're in them? Without contrast we seem oblivious to our quality of life.
Very well said. An accurate analysis that nails how most of us feel. “The way it’s supposed to be.” Disney just doesn’t get that. I don’t think they care to and that’s what is so unfortunate. Thank you for sharing.
You clearly and succinctly vocalized all my own feelings. I've never seen your channel before but your humor is on point too and your voice is lovely 👀 I might have to check out more!
The annoying thing about the new lego games is that they had to add a real dub as the new films aren't so iconic that you know what's happening without dialogue
As we all age, we’ll never recapture that first feeling of seeing a movie like Star Wars. Nothing, no matter what some fans claim, can replicate it. And there is the problem: older fans want a proper sequel that no matter who directs it or owns the rights to SW, could ever be created.
Very heartfelt video. Thank you. I think you summed it up nicely. I saw a New Hope in 1977 and it was breathtaking. It was magic. When I walked out of the Force Awakens in 2015 I was laughing how awful it was. There was no magic, no mythological power - it was just a Fan Film rehash of a New Hope. Skipped The Last Jedi and the third film. Rogue One was depressing. Solo just a heist film... Only the first season of Mando was good at catching the spirit. Too much wokery, Rey is a Mary Sue and the stories are poorly put together. What they did to Luke and Han was unforgiveable. The first 6 films are enough. Modern Star Wars is now dead, a former shell of itself.
Excellent video and spot on analysis. I feel your pain except I was 12 when I saw Episode IV in the theaters. They have killed nearly half a century of devotion to the franchise. I never saw the last movie and it's still hard for me to believe that a star wars movie would come out and I wouldn't attend. It's insane.
HEY, I made it into your video! (at 8:49) Funny thing I never got to see that footage no matter how much I looked for it. A few years ago on my birthday after attending an aunt's funeral it popped up in my feed. Wish I had known the May 4th previous as I was on the same news station. Keep the faith you had for it inspired you to better things in life.
I feel you, young lady. I was eight when my aunt convinced my mom to let her take her Star Trek obsessed nephew to this new science fiction movie he just _had_ to see. It was the most awesome thing I'd ever seen from the first moment when it take thirty seconds for that massive star destroyer to fly past the camera. That kid has a hovering car with three jet engines! He's got a LASER SWORD! Aliens that didn't look like people in obviously rubber masks. For me, it was when Luke climbs down into the gun turret on the Falcon and the chair starts tracking with the gun that I decided I wanted to be Luke Skywalker when I grew up. On the playground the monkey bars that used to be our Enterprise became the falcon and everyone started fighting over who got to be Luke or Han instead of Kirk, Spock, or Scotty. A problem that only intensified after Christmas when the Star Wars toys finally came out. Then The Last Jedi came out . . . It was a movie designed, carefully crafted, lovingly, intentionally scripted to insult, alienate, and infuriate EVERYONE who ever thought of Luke Skywalker as a hero. You can't make those movies unless you LOATH the characters of Luke and Han. And that is what I see in Obi-Wan and the Sequel Trilogy - the people making these things HATE Star Wars and everything they seem to think Star Wars meant to people. And yet - the whole time they're supposedly motivated by the desire to make back the four billion dollars they spent buying the franchise from George Lucas . . . These movies could have been, should have been, the easiest money Disney ever made. Instead every movie made less money - every show has earned fewer viewers (and streaming shows don't make ANY money since, without advertising, they can't monetize their audience) and sold less and less merchandise. They've killed the goose that laid the golden eggs - and the funniest thing about it is that they seem genuinely confused that the goose isn't still dropping gold in their laps.
Well said. There does seem to be a true disdain for the ideals and themes of the original movies and a disdain for anyone that wants Star Wars to just stay Star Wars.
I've loved Star Wars since seeing RotJ in its theatrical rerelease in '85. That love only intensified year-over-year leading up to the release of Episode I. Those represent my personal bookends for the era of Star Wars that I continue to maintain my passion for. To me, Star Wars as an idea and pop-culture phenomenon begins on May 25th, 1977 and ends on May 18th, 1999. As a fan of many other greatly maligned franchises, I find it personally very easy to accept the good bits and ignore the bad. Aliens, Star Trek, Highlander, Middle Earth...the list of franchise genocide goes on forever. But the good stuff is still good and I'm happy to accept those parts of it. The greatest tragedy, as you stated, is not really on behalf of the existing fans but of the unfortunate fate of the potential "new" fan, who might look upon these classic sagas, once so rightfully well-regarded, now flush with and surrounded by terrible, confusing, anti-productive schlock. Can you convince someone that Star Wars is indeed deserving of fandom and admiration when only a small minority of it's modern content is actually of good quality? At what point does one come off as merely and old man yelling at clouds? I hate that Star Wars has been driven into the ground in recent years. I'm only thankful that I was there from very near the beginning so that I have the fortune to have seen (and can still see) what a magical thing it was. Cheers!
I enjoyed hearing your take, well done. The impact of SW was indescribable in 77. I can recite every line in 4-6. Those younger than me have no idea the shock to the imagination we all experienced. They lost me earlier than you though, at Midi-chlorians...the mystery of the Force died for me then. The Force is available to everyone. Only, that seems minor in comparison to what destruction Disney has caused. I actually despise SW now. Currently, it stands for everything wrong in our society today.
I've never felt like I did watching the last jedi. I actually felt like I saw someone I loved murdered in front of me. The only reason I didn't walk out was because I couldn't believe the entire movie was going to be terrible, but I did want to walk out and jump online to find out what the hell is going on with star wars. It was that day I knew star wars was over. And I can't stand baby yoda.
As someone who grew up watching the prequel trilogy and just wanted to see bigger and better parts of the Star Wars universe on the big screen, nothing crushed those dreams harder than the sequel trilogy. I stopped caring the moment I walked out of TLJ, and you perfectly summed up how I felt and how I currently feel. I love the original Saga, but Disney Star Wars just isn't Star Wars.
Exactly. I only barely cared after TFA, which was atrocious in and of itself. But even so, there were 2 movies to salvage it, so I was still invested and interested. TLJ CRUSHED the interest I had left. Saw Rise of Skywalker once because a friend had a ticket and wanted me to go with him. I sat in disbelief as it progressively got worse than TLJ. It's the only time I've seen it. And I now just don't even care any more. But I do enjoy these youtube videos from time to time. It's like that old ex-girlfriend who dumped me that I don't care about anymore, but I get a kick out of seeing her ruin her life. 🤣
This PERFECTLY captures and explains my overall feelings towards Star Wars today. Everything is spot on, from the incredible impact the original films brought to the world to the controversial yet misunderstood prequel films. These films and especially the prequels are what sparked my passion and my love for Star Wars, especially during the toughest moments of my childhood. And the sequels to me felt like it crushed that spark. The Force Awakens felt too much like A New Hope but I wanted to give these movies a chance. The Last Jedi was the first film that I left the theatre feeling nothing but anger and confusion. And Rise of Skywalker felt like a joke as it was scrambling what little was left that people cared about, and it ruined even that. Since those movies I never cared to watch The Mandalorian, I hated the Obi-Wan show that I've heard so much about during its development, and I stopped caring about this franchise really after the finale of the Clone Wars. To me that show gave me closure on (in my opinion) one of the last good stories Star Wars had to tell. Now the Ahsoka show is coming out, and I feel so burnt out and I care so little of what these movies have become that all I can do is watch, as everything starts falling apart. Thank you for this analysis, I think you perfectly highlighted what me and many of my friends are thinking about what Star Wars has become. As much as I love more Star Wars content, as much as I love exploring these new worlds and seeing all of these wonderful characters, this franchise should have died a long time ago.
I think the main issue with new Star Wars is that it lacks a soul and a purpose. The Sequel Trilogy feels lost and without a theme. It's disjointed and the characters feel fake. It's a huge missed opportunity to continue the grand themes that Lucas established: History, philosophy and character.
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The Prequels were objectively fantastic movies. It was just popular to hate them because, to quote George Lucas himself "It's a film for 12 year olds". Ironically the "adults" tended to be FAR more childish than the literal children who watched those films. Because of this, most people don't bother to actually watch them in good faith.
The Star Wars fanbase actually WAS toxic. But not since Disney bought the franchise. It was actually toxic whilst George Lucas was still running the show. Just look at what happened to Jake Lloyd and Ahmed Best. Even whilst The Clone Wars series was in its prime, the Prequel haters wouldn't shut the hell up because "politics bad, Jar Jar annoying, Hayden Christiansen whiney, wah wah wah!" George Lucas himself confirmed that it was partially the childish and excessive hatred for the Prequels that caused him to sell Star Wars.
Disney WISHES they had the toxic fanbase that George Lucas had. If they did, they'd actually have a reason to lash out instead of needing to resort to pathetic accusations of racism and sexism. George never lashed out because he's a professional but he had every reason to do so.
Thanks a lot, Prequel haters. You idiots are just as responsible for Star Wars' death as Disney is. The only guy who had the courage, integrity and self-awareness to go on camera and admit this for all the world to see was Jeremy Jahns. To quote the man himself; "We paved the way for them. We validated them. We gave them the green light!"
Couldn’t say it better myself. I am deeply saddened by what Star Wars has become. Oh well, at least I still have Warhammer 40k. I hear it will finally come to the big screen with Henry Caville directing it, so I have high hopes that the God Emperors great works won’t be sullied like Star Wars was by the Disney’s virtue signaling and nonexistent plot. Also, the new dune stuff was cool and I have high hopes for the second one
@@tomnorton4277 At least it wasn't as bad when Lucas was in charge. Nowadays the fascists have taken over the place. And the movies are so bad that they make the prequels look good.
To me, The Mandalorian was enjoyable for ONLY the first 2 seasons. After the 3rd season...nope. it was perfect at the end of the second season. Andor was ok, but it needed a bit more SW main ingredients.
My wife is from China, she had never seen Star Wars before. We watched episodes 1-6 together in that order, she ate it up, loved it. Then we watched 7-9 and she hated it, completely lost all interest. That summed Disney Star Wars up for me perfectly.
Disney is racist so they'd assume that your wife HAS to love their dogshit just because she's Chinese.
Must be because she’s a racist, sexist, incel, manbaby with nostalgia goggles who gate keeps the franchise- Oh, wait…
You needed your wife to watch the movies to get to this conclusion? Can't you think on your own?
I've lost my passion after the last 3 movies. No more cosplay for me anymore. I don't know if it's because I'm getting older or just not the same passion for a dying franchise.
@@jazolisauce5374 Disney made people walk away from something they feel so passionate about.
The first movie I remember seeing with my mother in a theater was Return Of The Jedi almost 40 years ago. I was 8 years old and neither of us had seen the previous two movies. As a kid, I didn’t remember much about the plot. Instead, I remembered the visuals: The opening scene, Jabba The Hutt, the speeder bike chase, the lightsaber duel, the massive battle that led to the destruction of Death Star II, and the final scene.
However, what I remember most was the crowd reaction from a packed theater to Palpatine’s death. When Anakin threw the Emperor down that well, it sounded like 75,000 people cheering on a sporting event. I haven’t experienced a reaction in a theater like that since then.
When the first trailer for Rise of Skywalker was released, I watched it on my phone. As I heard Palpatine cackle at the end of the trailer, I almost threw my phone across the room. Star Wars was over for me at that moment. I wasn’t going to destroy that explosion of joy from Palpatine’s death in a theater in 1983 by seeing the new movie.
…So May The 4th Be With You and don’t get me started on Star Trek! 😬.
Your description of the crowd reaction watching Return of the Jedi sent chills down my spine!
Those were the days....
I saw it 40 years ago too. And then in the theater last week. My dad and I watched it with an eye on how it is dated. All we could really see is some obvious rotoscoping especially the speeder bike scenes. And some stop motion neither of which is very noticeable and I like it actually.
The special edition changes I hated but even with those it was 10000000 times better than Disney Star Wars. You rightly call out Palpatine but even back in The Force Awakens they tried to ruin ROTJ. The Leia/Han romance is the only healthy, beautiful romantic relationship in the saga. And the first thing Disney did was destroy it. They made the greatest romance a tragedy and the greatest hero a bitter failure. Rather than allow for the new generation to have their own accomplishments, they tear down the heroes of the previous generation.
From the very moment they announced an “Episode VII” with the original cast, I had a pretty good feeling I was going to hate it, because it must necessarily undo the happy ending to Episode VI.
Implied in that final shot of Han, Leia, Luke, Lando, and the droids dancing with the Ewoks are the words, “and they all lived happily ever after.” For gods’ sakes I still don’t know what the First Order actually IS, even after seeing all three movies. They simply resurrected the Empire because they wanted that same dynamic of the original trilogy.
I'm glad you had that experience with rotj! Funny how I really can't mention an iconic, memorable, larger than life moment in the sequels or much of any Disney star wars but there's too much to count in the originals or even the prequels!!
@@claykeough7898 I was even trying to pick apart the two big criticisms of the film: Ewoks and Luke’s plan to save Han. Sure, it makes no sense to deliberately imprison Chewy, 3PO and R2 on the hope that R2 will be within lightsaber throwing range and Leia will have a handy chain. If Leia was successful, would they have had to go back for Chewy?
Still, maybe he had a plan and this was all an improvisation, we just didn’t need a scene of Luke planning it.
As for the Ewoks, I think they do stretch credulity but mainly because of the limitations of the costumes and movement. They sometimes look like they can barely walk but if they had been depicted as silent, fast, agile forest dwelling natives, it would have worked, like Amazonian tribes.
At this point, I'd say the Holiday Special and Ewok spin off movies could be considered better than anything Disney puts out!
that has to be the most depressingly true statement iv ever read
Clone wars season 7 was quite good ( since it was under Disney ) , otherwise you are TOTALLY right
what about mando season 1 and 2. what about bad batch. what about fricking andor.
@@indianaalbers5890 Mando was Decent but never outstandingly good apart that moment with Luke! Never saw Bad Batch so I can’t comment
@@henrygambles3652 bad batch has the the same problem as clone war its good but you can tell it made mainly for a younger viewers. But this Coming from someone who has only whatched session 1.
Also did anyone else think the padawan voice didn't fit like at all
I always liked the "detective" plotline in Episode 2 with Obi-Wan trying to figure out who was trying to kill Padme.
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Imagining liking the prequels
When me and my friends left the theater after watching TFA, on the car ride home it was literally all we could talk about. How cool the new characters were, the fight scenes, how excited we were for the next film…
When TLJ came out we’d ran out of things to say about it before we got to the car.
Some of them said they liked it, but I was left with this hollow feeling, like something was wrong. Then Mauler uploaded his Unbridled Rage video and everything began to make sense lol
I honestly was not even that big of a fan of the force awakens to me it just felt like a bad imitation of A new hope
@@navylaks2 Even when the critique videos for TFA came out and they mentioned that it was literally a copy of A New Hope, I didn’t care, I still loved it. After TLJ, I slowly realized that TFA completely destroys the original trilogy by undoing everything Luke, Han and Leia achieved.
It’s pretty sad to think about
@@kingkwon8002 Yeah I started to take the YT critics side of things pretty early on after TFA came out but I was still interested in TLJ even if I thought the critics were right.
I wanted to be proven wrong essentially. I wasn't. The sequels got worse as they went on.
Same. TFA was good in that it wasn't a bad film, and it set up enough pieces to build something really good. But only if that happened would TFA remain good. Maybe even become great.... unfortunately we got TLJ and just like you I walked out disturbed from the theater... I have never been so quiet after a movie..... the movie started me on the road of just not caring about any of the "new" star wars...
@@nathanieldiaz2845
Really, so you won't be standing in line for the Rey movie?🙃🙃
Star Wars was a great franchise that existed between 1977 and 2012. The last lesson Star Wars teaches us is that everything comes to an end at some point and stories don't always continue. Appreciate Star Wars as it was and disregard everything released after 2012.
Correct- crucible and kenobi were the last star wars stories
@Gregg Victorious No on that last sentence.
@@achaudhari101 Cope. Professional Disney shill
Arguably, the Legacy and Dawn of the Jedi comics ran until 2014, but yeah, agreed.
@@yrooxrksvi7142 Not coping if it’s the truth.
You definitely aren't alone.
This is why I’ve gone back to collecting as much legends material I can. Replaying kotor or reading darth plagueis and the trawn trilogy rekindled my love for Star Wars. More than I can say for any soulless crap Disney pumps out.
It is not his fault that there are people who did not like the films! It is not because there are people who do not like the films that the films are bad! I find them really excellent! I'm tired of toxic people being mean for no reason! Oh yes because they have a shitty life and have nothing better to do with their lives than to ruin the lives of other people!
@@SuperPlacido1 uhh ok? You ok bro?
@@FoxHoundUnit90 Yes! Why you asked me that?
I would love animated adaptations of stuff like the Darth Bane trilogy, Plageuis, Thrawn trilogy and New Jedi Order among others, but Disney seems content on keeping Legends in the grave, rather than letting it exist and continue as its own separate timeline.
@@ManiacMayhem7256 You wanted Disney to do fanservice basically! I don't understand why the claim that The Force Awakens is just a copy and paste of A New Hope! You're not happy because you can't accept other people's vision. That's completely mature of you! It's not Disney's fault that you can't respect other people's vision! It's just your fault! But you just want to make excuses for not admitting that you're the one at fault! That's also why you say it's other people's fault! Because of an ego problem! That's the facts! That's why you and others say it's Rian Johnson, J.J. Abrams and Kennendy's fault when they didn't do anything wrong! You gotta love it, The Mandolorian and The Book of Bobba Fett, it's full of fanservice! Oh yeah... You're going to tell me no because it's not the fanservice YOU wanted!
The people who fell for the "Grogu effect" are the exact people Disney wants as fans - people who are easy to manipulate, and who will buy unnecessary merchandise because "he's so cute". Dragging out the Grogu/Mando story for 3 seasons is an exercise in actual insanity... "How long can we lead these donkeys around the farm before they lose interest and give up?" It's funny, but sad too. People don't watch Star Wars for characters or stories - they watch it for imagery, and imagery alone. They were fooled, over and over, by shallow re-imaginings based on things that already existed, and some of them will never clue in and see that they've been had.
Gotta admit, I'm obsessed with Grogu. However, growing up with the Clone Wars I can distinguish between good and bad Star Wars. Disney lost me almost completely at this point. I still watch Grogu compilations on yt tho 😂
Well, I went into Mando expecting to hate Grogu for being an obvious marketing icon, but I ended up liking him. He's a great counterpart to Din's hardened warrior persona, and fits Star Wars' themes well. My biggest issue with Mando is that it will still inevitably lead to the trilogy, so I have to reject it regardless of whether I think it's good or not.
It's embarrassing, but I admit I was charmed for Grogu charm during season 1 but I stayed because of Din charm. But after Mandalorian proves itself as worst as sequel Im dropping Mandalorian
I never liked The Mandalorian and i never will.
Grogu ate and killed egg that alien woman's children. And it was treated as a joke. It we aren't suppose to care about them then why care about him?
I recently rewatched Return of the Jedi, and I fell in love with Star Wars again. The magic of this story culminating in the final episode was a great experience. And it always will be.
Phantom Menace is looking good after the woke Star Wars.
"I recently rewatched Return of the Jedi, and I fell in love with Star Wars again. The magic of this story culminating in the final episode was a great experience. And it always will be."
Based, Return Of The Jedi is my most favourite Star Wars movie of all time and the TRUE ending of the Skywalker Saga movies. Only the first 6 Skywalker Saga movies are canon, in my eyes.
I recently had my girlfriend watch the two made-for-TV Ewok (with Warwick Davis as Wicket) movies (from the 80s) written and produced by George Lucas himself and she enjoyed them a heck of a lot more than anything Disney Star Wars that she has seen already. ✌️
Don’t do it. Don’t give me hope
You are so spot on. That’s coming from someone who was too young for the first two but saw Return of the Jedi three times back in ‘83.
The thing I find the worst, is the spitefulness of the Disney trilogy.
I left FA thinking it was ok but why did they make Han a failure and kill him? I left LJ thinking, was that even a Star Wars movie? I left Rise thinking it was a joke and finally realising the truth. Disney actually hates those like me. That realisation actually helped me give up on them. Like getting rid of a toxic drug dealer.
I remember walking out of Last Jedi thinking, "what the crap did I just watch? I want that 2.5 hours of my life back."
The Last Jedi is Spaceballs 2.
Think about it. All you need is a studio audience laugh track. Luke tossing the lightsaber over his shoulder. (Laugh!) Green tit milk. Finn squirting all over the deck. (Laugh!) Carry Poppins (Big laugh for that one). "Let's free all these animals from the casino, but leave the children in slavery." (Haheeaahehha!) Cut Snoke in half. Benny Hill music during the throne room fight scene. Press Big Red Button To Destroy Entire Imperial Fleet. Gorilla walkers. Kiss during the big fight (ROTFL!) Kylo fights a ghost and doesn't know it. Rey is more awesome than any man ever was (The Force is Female!). Everyone died; let's have a party! Weeee! Ludicrous speed!
Roll credits.
blame kathleen kennedy
@@t.s.adrian8785 Plus they got arrested for parking violation.
"Spiteful" like Lucas infecting the OT with crap from the terrible prequels to try to punish the fans who hate them?
I’m right there with you. The way I find myself getting through this dismal period in the history of this beloved franchise is that I really only look at the media that Lucas was heavily involved in as “true Star Wars” (prequels, OT, Clone Wars). Those are the stories he, Lucas, wanted to tell. Everything else is merely poorly done fan fiction.
Correction... "poorly done HATE-fiction".
Long live the expanded universe
I sure hope you find it in your heart to read and watch some of the expanded universe. He was involved in several of thoughs and every single one went through his approval. TCW is good but man it pales in comparison to the CWMMP, which includes the 2003 cartoon microseries. Thrawn trilogy, New Jedi Order, Plageuis, Labyrinth of Evil and Darth Bane trilogy are masterpieces
TCW is great and all, but what I hate about Dave Filoni is his complete disregard for non-film and TV Star Wars content. He completely retconned two of my favorite Star Wars books with Tales of the Jedi. And if you go back further, expanded universe fans hate TCW because it retconned a lot of extended universe books and comics. And Disney had promised to be considerate to different parts of the canon.
It's a shame because Dooku: Jedi Lost and the Ahsoka novel would have made great TV adaptations and may have actually increased book sales
I think you pretty much nailed it here. I think one of the big problems is that Disney is more interested in making money. George was more interested in quality stories.
If we're being honest, George was interested in both. And that's okay. You can have both. The thing is, the better the movie, the more money it makes. So the oft-repeated "Disney is just interested in making money" doesn't hold up. If Disney had properly respected Han, Luke & Leia & the canon & tradition, they'd have made $Billions more on those movies. So, I'm going to respectfully disagree with your take.
I think George was more interested in telling HIS story, and didn't care whether it was loved or not. See: Ewoks.
No, Disney was more interested in promoting woke ideology. They thought they could add toxic woke ideas into Star Wars and still make a lot of money. But they were wrong and ended up killing the goose that laid the golden eggs.
Go woke and go broke.
Actually, the problem is Disney seems surprisingly disinterested in making money, and focuses much more on pushing a very cringey ideology with no apparent regard for audience reaction. If they wanted to make money, they'd give the audience what they want. Instead, they give audiences what their commissars think the audience should see.
@@colonelquack He changed that story from Wookiees to Ewoks specifically to move more toys. Sadly, by the time Return of the Jedi came around, Lucas was driven by toy marketing rather than story crafting, and just wanted to wrap the whole thing up rather than continue with the second trilogy.
The original plan was for the sister referred to by Yoda to be introduced in a second trilogy. Leia wouldn't be related to Luke at all, and would be a queen, while Luke would set off to find his sister. He'd train her as a Jedi, and the two would kill the Emperor in the third movie. The Emperor wasn't even supposed to make an appearance in the third film, and remain a shadowy, scary threat in the background-- a set up for the second trilogy. Pretty epic.
I just watch the old trilogy and keep that at my happy place.
I use to love watching the original 3 at the cabin on rain days. I just re-watched them but started with Rogue 1. The only newer star wars movie I actually liked. It was a good order to re-watch the original 3.
Well said. I don’t think I’ll ever get over not knowing what Lucas’s sequel trilogy would have been like.
There's a plotline on the Internet. And it's bad. And knowing Lucas's prequels filmmaking, it would have been bad.
@@mishynaofficial Nah. Prequels are awesome. I’m sure Lucas’s finale would have also actually been a Star Wars film. Unlike what we’ve had since his departure.
As a writer and business owner, I know a company does not purposely try to fail but these companies seem like they are trying very hard. In my company, if an employee is performing badly and loses my company thousands of dollars then I’ll definitely fire them. But these companies seems to be failing upwards and not trying to turn around for the better
Kathleen Kennedy didn’t lose thousands she lost millions possibly more yet she is still there any sane boss would have thrown her out damn anything else but nope
See but here’s a key problem. I feel like yes it’s the employees like the writers, directors, and etc. but the real problem is the Executive/CEOs at Disney there the one who controls everything thing and they won’t see themselves as the problem so they won’t quit especially with how much money they be making.
ESG
Nuff said.
@@BusinessMan_ForthePeopleWhen you are a radical left winger ideologue, it would be your duty to evangelize your politics subtly to the masses. Kennedy (plus her acolytes/Hollywood Reporter) and Iger are the rot from inside Disney that will continue to fester.
I think what's happening is that people who want to intentionally destroy these franchises and demoralize their fans buy up all the stock in these companies so that they can do just that.
I was 16 when *STAR WARS* hit cinemas in 1977. It was DEFINITELY a BIG DEAL then!
Beyond a big deal, tbh. If you add up all the ticket sales & profits of the top 10 movies in 1977, Star Wars is responsible for over 50% of the take. 50%! 9 of the other top 10 movies all added together couldn't match it. No other movie has EVER done that.
@@Wonderboywonderings >>> Rodger all that...👍
I just saw Return of the Jedi on re-release and there was a joy from the audience,(it was nearly full) that I have not felt since The Force Awakens. Disney really fumbled this franchise.
Same here. Went to the 40th anniversary showing last week. And even though I've seen ROTJ 50 times, there was still an excitement and energy that was completely non-existent for all the Disney sequel & spin-off movies.
Disney©®™ didn't screw up Star Wars, they deliberately destroyed it.
@@DaMaster012 Toxic people destroy Star Wars, not Disney! It is not his fault that there are people who did not like the films! It is not because there are people who do not like the films that the films are bad! I find them really excellent! I'm tired of toxic people being mean for no reason! Oh yes because they have a shitty life and have nothing better to do with their lives than to ruin the lives of other people!
@@SuperPlacido1 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@francoarca2122 ??? What does that even mean?
I'm from an older generation, before yours. I watched the original Star Wars in the cinema in the late 70's. I was very young and it meant the world to me between the ages of 6-13. Then I grew up and found other interests, but Star Wars was still there. I always had very fond memories of it, I still get goosebumps from scenes like the binary sunset. I've come to realize, even my morals were informed by it. *It was important.* I just didn't realize how important until I watched what Disney has done to it.
Star Wars used to be something to be inspired by. To be catapulted into this fantastic realm of adventure and wonder, with an uplifting message of hope and benevolence at its core. Imagine a son growing up to become a shining knight, saving his father from darkness. Primal stuff. Especially important for youngsters. Disney has managed to utterly ruin it, at almost every conceivable level. They probably couldn't have done a better job even if that was their intention.
It was done in purpose by Kathleen Kennedy. She's the core of the problem. She have been involve in every Disney SW Crap...
The prequels and the EU ruined Star Wars before The Mouse.
@@mishynaofficial The prequels missed the mark by quite a bit. Hugely disappointing, yes. I remember growing numb when they started talking midichlorians in TPM.
However, they weren't insulting. They didn't shit on everything the original trilogy stood for. As for the EU, I don't know much about it.
@@HunterZolomon that's true. They didn't shit on everything, just the Force and the magic of it, and the viewers imagination, and the core ideas of it, oh, and the Jedi, also ruined a few iconic characters, and shrunk the galaxy, but nothing of an importance, nuh.
Well, the main problem with EU was taking away the discourse. But now that SW has been filled with garbage so badly, it doesn't matter anymore. The discourse isn't about the original deep ideas, and not even about all the lightsaber fap and other sci-fi worldbuilding bs, it's mostly about who hates who. The meaning among fans is lost forever.
@@mishynaofficial you fr bro clone wars was the best thing that happened to SW, if disney was smart they'd have just made ep 7 8 9 about another war like that, but between the fledgling republic and the first order. Not another borefest about light side vs dark
Star Wars is always part of my life. I have been a massive fan since I was 7, and to this day, I'm so glad I grew up with a franchise like this that changed my life and will never leave me.
When the topic of the "magic" of Star Wars came up I felt moved. For I love the original six films, and they will have a place in my heart that no other stories might be able to fill, but the Last Jedi washed the taste of Star Wars out of my mouth. I watched Star Trek the Original Series to see what else I could enjoy, and I was sucked into Star Trek much in the same way that I had been for Star Wars. But alas, not even Star Trek was safe from it's "magic" being stolen away. I may use quotation marks when discussing magic, but mark my words, the magic of human nature is very real. George Lucas managed to harness it, so did JRR Tolkien, Gene Roddenberry, Sydney Newman, JK Rowling and so many more. They harnessed a unique magic and allowed us all to express it fully. Watching the Mandalorian season 3 and Picard season 3 I found myself in an odd position, the Mandalorian didn't even fight to reclaim the magic of Star Wars and so I didn't care all that much for it. But Star Trek Picard brought back the Next Generation Cast and fought tooth and nail to reclaim the magic from the past, and it somehow managed to do so, for however, brief that time, I felt that magic once more and was moved to tears on several occasions while watching it. At the end of the day, the original six movies made by Goerge Lucas will always be magical, and I hope that future generations can take from our generation (the one that enjoyed that magic for the first time) that magic with them and be able to enjoy the story that happened a long time ago, in a galaxy far far away...
There is one original film not six, one original trilogy. The prequels were maligned in their day just like the recent trilogy, people even hated on return of the Jedi when it came out. Some Star Wars Fans are just unhappy people who are unhappy with anything it appears. If you need fictional charge and stories to make you feel complete then idk what to tell you.
You've summed it up perfectly. But people don't need the mouse, there's always the Expanded Universe.
You mean fanfiction that Lucas never considered Canon?
Exactly.
@@achaudhari101 It's better than the garbage Disney is trying to pass off as canon
@@robertjones5765 That doesn’t make it any better.
@@achaudhari101 so you do agree that being Better than whatever disney is producing under the guise of Star Wars, is not a high bar? Well glad you agree with us on something
You have expressed all of my feelings towards star wars so accurately. I don't care about the new stuff but my love and appreciation for George Lucas's Star Wars has grown. I watch the original 6 movies probably every month
And your favorite is??
Star Wars feels like going back to the small town you grew up in, with so many happy memories with friends and family, the corner store that sold bottle cap sodas, the fishing hole, the bike trail, the record store...
And seeing it all bulldozed and replaced with a shopping mall and freeway.
The happy highways where I went And cannot come again
I've turned my Star Wars love towards Denis Villeneuve's Dune films. If the second is anywhere near as good as the first, they will be two of the greatest Sci Fi/Fantasy films ever made. (With the same cinematographer as Rogue One). I can only imagine how good a sequel Trilogy of Star Wars, or any Star Wars trilogy or film could be if it was treated with the same level of respect and gravitas and seriousness as Denis is doing with Dune. The epic worlds and shots that could be put on the big screen in the SW world are almost infinite. The things you could do with ancient desert, snow, jungle planets and old Jedi temples. The sword fights and sky battles.....with someone like Denis in charge to fill those ideas with good stories...with the backing of Disney funds....a franchise like SW should be raking in money right now. With new blockbuster film every year that is consistently hitting out of the park. It's almost unbelievable how badly Disney and Kathleen Kennedy have screwed it up.
I've recently rediscovered Dune as well and damn is it good. The books are fantastic Sci-Fi.
Same here with Dune, although I also rediscovered Warhammer 40 000 and actually dove into the intricate lore. I'd say that has become my surrogate Star Wars, even more so than Dune. Dune is still awesome though!
@@worldeater2046 Yes, bro Warhammer 40k. Where did you start? I'd like to start reading the books but have no idea where to begin. I can add to my audible list right now!
Fitting since SW was a Dune ripoff. And Dune doesn’t even get weird before books 4-6
There's still some good star wars content in the gaming world but even that's rare these days.
This was in my recommended. I must say I agree with every single point you made. I saw Return of The Jedi in theaters for it's 40th Anniversary recently. Man, I miss that escapism movies gave me as a kid. Subbed!!
Ditto. This showed up in my stream and your analysis is spot on.
And I too miss that escapism. And It is really needed now.
You have my sub.
There was more magic in the 40th anniversary showing of ROTJ than ALL of the Disney Star Wars movies combined.
I feel like Obi-wan in the beginning of A New Hope wistfully remembering what the Jedi were before lamenting, "before the dark time. Before the empire."
Great video.
Great video. I agree with pretty much everything you’ve said. I was a kid of the perfect age when the first movie was released in 1977. It was a revelation. It defined my life in some ways. I was one of the first die-hards (among millions of others). I was excited for the Prequels but felt a bit let down. Still, my love of Star Wars and interest in new stories was strong. With the Force Awakens, I almost felt like the original, adventurous spirit of the original films had returned. I was very excited to see the answers to the questions presented in TFA come to fruition. Then Disney let Ryan Johnson helm the next movie, without a pre-planned over-arching story, and he burned Star Wars to the ground. The third sequel tried to correct things but too much damage had been done. I watched Mandalorian and enjoyed it, mostly. Book of Boba Fett was garbage. I thought there was no way that Disney could not give the Kenobi/Vader story the gravitas it deserved but was sadly mistaken. After Kenobi, I was out. Haven’t watched Andor. Haven’t watched the new season of Mandalorian. I’ve decided that continuing to watch new Star Wars, under the cluelessly-astray Disney, will only taint my love for the first movies. I never thought I’d see the day when I wouldn’t be interested in new Star Wars films and stories but that day has come. I will no longer be an active participant in Disney’s assault on my, and many others, love for Star Wars.
I'll never forget the first time I saw Star Wars. I was in a babysitter's house while waiting for my parents to come home, she put on a tape of the Return of the Jedi. Even though I think it's a flawed film, moreso than any of the other of the OT, it's still my favourite, there's just a fantastic warmth that's impossible for me to describe.
I think you're spot on with all of this. Its a shame Disney had to waste such a good franchise. Btw it sounds like you would fit in well with the EFAP crew
I agree!
great video. The 2005 DVDs of the Original Trilogy that have the Original versions on the bonus discs, I hunted them down a few years ago and it's how I'm gonna stay. Worth every cent.
Im so glad this randomly appeared in my recommended, because i couldn't agree more, great video 🙏
I have so many thoughts on your wonderful video , but the first thing I have to say is THAT feeling you described after seeing TLJ ……. I remember being excited for that day . I had marathoned all the Star Wars movies and clone wars over the previous 6 months . I was a HUGE Star Wars fan . I understood people’s criticisms of TFA but really enjoyed the film . I saw the trailers and they looked interesting and epic (I had huge expectations for Crete and Luke’s return )and the reviews where amazing . 2 hours and 20 some minutes later I felt like a neighbors dog that I loved had been put to sleep and I’d been forced to watch it happen . I stumbled out of the theater in a daze . Not even mad or angry , just numb . I honestly thought maybe I’d been pranked . Like Disney sent out the wrong version of the film cause there was no way that could be the film . After walking out of the theater my enthusiasm for Star Wars was killed and I only get semi interested if it’s a video game or show that works in some prequel era content or characters . I’ll never get how KK still has a job and how anyone could praise or enjoy the Disney era
Exactly. Crestfallen… is how I describe my state as I sat there in disbelief watching the credits after TLJ. I had my criticisms and complaints about TFA, but I enjoyed it more than not and still loved Star Wars and anxiously looked forward to more. From one absurd insulting slit in the eye if the legacy scene to the next of TLJ I could not believe what I saw. I was stunned. In a hundred different ways, simply stunned. While trying to process it, my final thoughts / words as I walked out of the theatre were “that’s it (!?)” and “it’s over. Star Wars is over”. There was no need if reason to make anymore. Literally. Period. I was so confused and unwilling to believe it I actually bought the dvd when it came out hoping to prove myself wrong. Nope. My fears were confirmed. My fear turned to anger and that anger turned to hate. I unbelievably now basically hate Star Wars. That was the last SW item I’ve ever bought and regret it.
Yeah you nailed it. Its one of the only films Ive come out of the cinema not knowing if I liked it or not. Subsequent rewatches confirmed that I think its fine as an action adventure but its just not in the same league as the OT. And then whatever potential they built up with it they completely waster with TLJ....
The story of so many loved franchises, sad times
This video makes me feel ancient. By the way, kids in the 70s and 80s loved star wars, too. The Kenner toys were awesome.
This video hit the nail on the head, well done. George’s films and wider vision cannot and will not be tarnished. However, whereas you sound hopeful things might change, I am done with all things cinematic (movies, tv shows etc.), but some of the games and books still hold up.
This is so relatable. My exact experience. Thank you for this.
Spot on. I grew up in the late 70's and 80's and back then,Star wars was everything. It was fun and impactful. And even with the prequels,despite how flawed they are,they still have that magic. But I felt exactly as you do. Everything now has to be woke and Star wars has been stuffed down our throats. I did go see the Force awakens,but after that I lost interest as well. It seems to me that Disney ruins everything it touches these days.
I have too, I was a "Nerd" Back when it wasn't cool at all, in fact if you was you got relentlessly bullied, and being in a situation like that Star Wars was a nice "friend" to have. Saying goodbye to it because I can't stand Disney and their behaviour(Because it reminds me a lot of the bullies in fact) Is hard. But It's what It's
Some Star Wars fans are incredible bullies. Just ask the actors and actresses of the prequels. We’re pretending now the prequels were beloved but they were not, that’s just a fact. You can even read reviews of the prequels from back then, many of which say GL killed his own movie franchise
It’s true. I watched Last Jedi in denial I was watching the murder of StarWars
I agree 100% with everything you say here Jesterbell! So glad there are those of a younger generation who still appreciate the original trilogy.
Imagine someone of my generation (I'm 62) who saw it when it first came out - KABOOM! None of us had seen anything like it before! It blew everyone away!
I'm so glad that the original trilogy still has similar reaction in younger generations like yourself😊.
P.S. I actually really enjoyed Andor, but maybe that's just because all the other TV series were so bad. Pity though (and ironic) that it was the least 'Star Warsy' of all the TV series.
I saw Episode IV in the theater in 1977 as a 7 year old- it’s the only element of mainstream pop-culture that is truly part of my identity, and I am having a really hard time with needing to not care even as I know I have no choice 😭
I was 14 when the first Star Wars came out in 1977. If you weren't around then you can hardly imagine the impact that it had then. It totally blew me away when I saw it for the first time. This was the affect it had on everyone. There were long lines to get into the theater. Everyone was talking about it. Everyone loved it: Democrats, Republicans, Black, white, old, young, whatever. Even my mom and dad liked it, and they lived during WWII. My dad hooted with laughter at certain scenes like the Tatooine bar and the wookie growling at the tiny droid on the death star. Even people who were not into science fiction liked it. One has to realize that at that time, good special effects were rare because they were expensive. Lucas spared no expense in the making of it. We appreciated good special effects more then due to the rarity unlike people today who are blaze' about them because they are so used to them.
I think it was so much better then because the movies were the creation of one man. That made it more coherent. Now it is made by committees and has the feel of a cumbersome bill voted on by congress. Today, also, so much is agenda driven; and our country is divided. That wasn't the case back then. We were one country then so it was easier to tell a story we would all like.
Disney is not Star Wars. Episode 1-6 will have to carry all the weight... ❤ Disney blew a beautiful opportunity.
Exactly. Disney is high-priced fakes.
I know a lot of people accept the prequels because they came out when they were 12, but those movies are also to blame for the fall of Star Wars. They're terribly written and do more to remove the mystery and wonder from the original trilogy than anything Disney has done.
I hear ya @@RickyNuggets!Sometimes it’s hard not to cringe at some of the writing in the prequels (the lovers rolling in the Hills are Alive scene in Ep2 😖). But StarWars survived.. .
Thanks for making this. I feel similarly and it makes me very sad. Star Wars was something that our dad shared with us from a young age because he had loved it whilst he was a kid and we loved it because it was really the only kid-thing that he liked and we could share with him. As we grew up we kept that love as our own, but with Disney's constant barage of disrespect for the property--the low-budget appearing Boba Fett show (which should have been cool as shit), or the worst crime of all, the squandering of the Obi Wan show--how could I continue to watch while they showed no respect for the characters who we loved? I watched season 3 of mandalorian, but was so disappointed, even though I was expecting to be. I wish Star Wars hadn't been sold to Disney to become a shell of its self; to be lifeless and basic. It is really sad. But we will always have the good movies and the joy that they brought us growing up.
I was 7 when EP 4 came out. It was burned into my very bones. Seeing what its slowly turned into makes me sad.
I deeply relate to every word of this.
And thank you for saying the Mandalorian was never good
Thank you for this video essay. You captured the heart and soul of our youth and the grieving of watching our myths die and be turned into nothing.
Thank you.
I saw A New Hope in 1977 on opening night at a drive-in. I was hooked from that moment (I was 9 years old). Star Wars always meant something special to me because I was at the beginning of the phenomenon and stuck with it through to the end of Return of the Jedi. I kind of mourned the end of Star Wars figures and Star Wars in general but found other Sci-Fi and fantasy that captivated me too. When Star Wars returned I was not as invested after The Phantom Menace but it drew me back in with AOTC and ROTS. The Clone Wars was something I watched with my son and we watched the original movies many times over. But when Disney Star Wars came it changed. Star Wars wasn't Star Wars anymore. Leia was cold and bitter. Luke was an angry and bitter failed man. Han was a deadbeat dad who lost his prize ship. R2-D2 embodied my feelings about Disney Star Wars in that he just shut down. Disney never really recaptured the magic of Star Wars and was trying too hard to make it their own. My own opinion is that they never really have come close to A New Hope and never will. I liked the first season of The Mandalorian but it's back to being Disney junk now. The Last Jedi and Rise of Skywalker are such bad movies that they can't be taken seriously. I picked up a Star Wars figure the other day and put it back on the shelf - not just because it is ridiculously overpriced but because Star Wars is a brand and not a beloved movie anymore. It's just another thing that Disney wrecked to make money or push Kennedy's agenda. I have also stopped caring about something I used to love.
Agreed. Totally.
I saw A New Hope in the cinema as a 16 year old when it first came out....blew me away so much I can't describe. Changed my life.
Unfortunately the Disney version is a cynical, post-modern destruction of my (and many others') memories and dreams.
Andor maybe is an exception - in quality at least - yet it doesn't really capture the flavour of the originals.
So sad.
The Clone Wars cartoon series really captured the spirit and essence of Star Wars. It's completely worthy to be included in the pantheon and canon.
Same here, bro. It's depressing and demoralizing to see something so universally loved become a weapon of destruction in the hands of evil depraved people (Disney). I do love Filoni's work on Clone Wars though.
To kind of support this, I have the DVDs for Episodes 1-7. I didnt bother getting the last 2. Thats how you know a franchise is dead, when hardcore fans don't even buy the movies to finish a trilogy.
Thanks for sharing. I feel the same way. I miss so much the old days that I went on blogs to find out which books to read to get the famous Master Luke years before Disney in their evil hunger burns them all. What I've come to realize is I love the old stuff because it was Hopeful and centre on family, love, friends and most of all RESPECT. I also cannot shake the feeling that what's being done to the franchise even though seems accidental....is way to precise not to be intentional. And that intention to kill the past, to me, is the breaking point. We went from people working on the project who LOVED the story to people who ENVY the previous owner and wants him erased. If you watch carefully you will see that they never thank George anymore anywhere on their panels and stuff and it is not accidental. It's the envious little brother or little sister complex....I to can be great. Take care and thanks for video.
I agree 100 percent. As some one who was there in 1977 to 1983 when Star Wars came out I can't tell you how right you are these movies really brought people together we fell in love with story and the characters and the world that was given to us. So when I left the theater in 1983 I felt happy and sad happy to see how the story ended and sad because i felt a chapter in my life had come to an end. Now when the prequels came out and yes they have there flaws and I would be the last one to say they are great movies but it still felt like Star Wars. There was a good story and characters there and they added so much to the world of Star Wars so I can still watch them and feel I watched a Star Wars movie. Now after seeing the first two Disney so called Star Wars movies I walked away and never saw the third one. After seeing Disney trash the story and characters I feel in loved with as a kid I did not have the heart to see another Disney Star Wars.
I'm watching this video for the third time now. You just summed it all up perfectly - I was a huge lifelong fan and... now I just don't care anymore. Your video just perfectly drew a line of how I went from a devoted fan to someone who couldn't care less. Thankyou.
I’ve reached the same point. Been disappointed to many times by Disney, hoping they would do the story I love justice. All I can do is enjoy what once was.
You perfectly summed up what we all are feeling.
This is a well put together video - It's too bad I can only subscribe just once.
EDIT: The blender was a nice touch btw 🤣
The escape isn’t gone. The people who made it possible are. Enjoy the originals; they’re what made this conversation possible!
thats like saying you like your favourite bed but then someone had a shit on your bed and then people say just sleep on the part that doesn't have shit on it, it ruined the bed even if you can sleep on half of it it doesn't change the fact your bed was ruined and whenever you want to have nostalgia of the bed you will always be reminded of the shit.
Basically you said it. Pre Disney star wars brought fans together.
Disney star wars divides the fans now.
yup!
Except it was always divisive back then. Unless you’re super young or never left your house, it was always that way even with the OT and the PT.
🤔 I guess for the prequels it brought the hate together. And let’s be real, those movies have major problems. They look more dated than the OT. But no one deserved the wrath of the Fandom Menace.
People were just as divided over the prequels
You had me at the title of the video I thought I was the only one thank u for making this video because I feel the same way
This was so well done. You are right, I don't care who you were in school you could make an instant friend by just saying, 'Did you see starwars?'
I have talked about moving to a new town as a shy kid and star wars was the way that I made friends - it was after New Hope so earlier but same situation. The biggest fight me and my friends ever got in was who was cooler - Luke or Han. after seeing Last Jedi with a group of friends that i had gone to the theater to watch empire, jedi, the re-releases, the prequels and force awakens, i told them i was done
Millions of videos on this subject but yours is probably the best, imo. I'm from 1977 Star Wars. It was there for all my life. It was more important to me than it would make sense to tell people today. I forced myself to sit through years of Disney, I fought my own feelings as much as I could. But one day I turned on yet another show from Disney and realized I couldn't care less about it anymore. That is truly one of the saddest feelings I've ever had about Star Wars. Those 6 Lucas movies will always be among the best things ever put to film, imo.
❤VERY WELL SAID, MY DEAR!
You expressed my feelings with the words that I couldn’t find.
I loved this, thank you. I remember making a RUclips (or Reddit...one of these) comment a few years ago when I fully realized it, that Disney had done something I never, ever thought could be done. Between my memorizing the words of all three movies when I was a kid in the 80s/90s, to thinking the prequels were decent...to having board games and reading Star Wars books, I still loved the Star Wars universe. But I still remember sitting at my desk and have the realization and writing a comment about how Disney had done something I never thought possible, which was to not hate Star Wars but just....genuinely not care about it anymore. It was a weird/sobering realization. Similar to what you said here. You captured what I feel as well.
I don't hate Star Wars but, I just don't care about it anymore. Like it or not, the Disney moves ARE canon. I haven't seen the Rise of Skywalker, as The Force Awakens was the nail in the coffin. I haven't seen any of the offshoot shows, even if I know a couple of them have been decent. But I don't watch it, because I just don't care. Which is sad. Thanks, Disney.
im sorry for your loss. mine came in december of 2017 walking out of the last jedi literally depressed and crushed
I do agree with most of it, most Star Wars stuff that Disney has made feels hollow... however once in a blue moon something authentic and true to the philosophy of rebellion like Andor comes along.
Andor is not good.
Andor is actually a good show on it's own it mainly just takes place in the star wars universe, but has little fan service certain elements that are key to star wars jedi sith etc are absent
That’s why it’s great, because it’s authentic and goes back to the themes of the original trilogy. Standing up to the oppressors
Great video essay. It was well articulated and I think it represents many fans’ opinions on Star Wars. I haven’t mustered the courage to watch any Star Wars movies since The Rise of Skywalker. It makes me sad knowing how everyone ends up. Obi-Wan also killed any enthusiam/confidence I had left for TV. However, The Mandalorian S1 & 2 are good if you like old fashioned, pulpy, serialized western style of television. The weekly adventure is the story. Any ways, I enjoyed your video!
agree with your Manda opinion. I wish I hadn't watched season 3 and just let the season 2 finale be the ending in my head!
I saw "Star Wars" in a standing room only the theater where people were literally standing in the isles. The fire marshal had shut the theater the night before, but I guess let it go this time. It wasn't even Episode IV then, just "Star Wars". I was an instant fan and ate up the next two movies. I actually read all the Han Solo books! The toys, everything. I wasn't a huge fan of the Prequals, but my sons sure were. Now... we are bereft of an experience we shared together. Disney Star Wars wasn't just bad, it killed the joy and wonder for us.
I felt like you were speaking all the thoughts in my head out loud. I think many many fans are on the same page as you.
I couldnt agree more. I felt this way for a long time, but I recently rewatched Andor and I think if you haven't, give that show a chance.
People should listen to the radio drama specials for star wars, empire strikes back and jedi.. It's got lots of little bits of information. Like r2d2 sabotaging the other Droid before meeting Luke and Owen so it's motivator failed. R2 was very unethical in pursuit of his mission to obi Wan.
The only media I’ve genuinely liked from the Disney Star Wars era has been the Fallen Order and Survivor video games. I’m not even a gamer but I adore the stories and characters in them and I do think they’re the closest thing this era has gotten to actual Star Wars which is ironic considering the games aren’t even made by Lucasfilm.
10:38 Always remember that we have the first two trilogies and their accompanying material. They will always live forever.
There were certain scenes in the last jedi where I legitametely thought I'm watching a parody. I remember this weird feeling of alienation setting in the further the movie got. It was the first time that I watched something that was called "Star Wars" that didn't *feel* like Star Wars.
Andor is literally the only thing of quality that Disney has put out, in my most humble opinion. While a lot of people say it "doesn't feel like Star Wars", I'd argue it's the closest thing to the original trilogy we've ever got, because it actually cares about THE POLITICS. The politics of Star Wars were so important in the beginning, and Andor fleshes out the Empire and makes them feel like a threat again. It got me interested again. I started reading the Thrawn trilogy and a lot more of the EU books. I started playing all the old video games again like KOTOR and Jedi Outcast. I'm so hyped for season two.
Uhhhh…. CW S7, Mando S1&2, Rebels past S2. Plus plenty of comics and games. Just cuz the movies have been bad doesn’t mean there isn’t still good star wars
@Ty Eklund Like I said, in my most humble opinion. Sure the last couple of episodes of CWS7 were great but everything else? The sister arc was awful. That's the problem with all of these is they waste a lot of time on nothing. Andor uses all of its time efficiently and appropriately. That's why I believe it to be quality.
It doesn't matter. Nobody asked for an Andor show to begin with. It's basically like giving Jar Jar his own movie after the Phantom Menace. Nobody will watch it because nobody wanted it.
@@aliastheabnormal plenty watched it, get over yourself bozo
Yes I agree, Andor was excellent - the other series were trash.
But while I agree that yes it covered the politics of Star Wars like the originals, I too felt it a bit...different. Maybe because to me it felt more grown-up. I can't see kids appreciating Andor the way they did the original trilogy.
But that's me.
I still like Star Wars, but not the way Disney had done. They don’t care about anything. Everything turned to deaf ears.
I’ll just cherish the old and Legends books.
I listen to Thrawn trilogy, tales Of The Jedi books with Ulic Qel-Droma and Nomi Sunrider
Luke Skywalker and Mara Jade Adventure “Star War: Survivor's Quest Book”
I also listen to Star Wars: Crimson Empire.
Legends was not Canon.
@@achaudhari101 neither was Canon at this rate.
@@ZonnexNecton You mean the Sequels.
@@achaudhari101 Legends is Star Wars Official Canon with majority of Star Wars Fans.
Star Wars was one of the biggest things in my life. I loved it so much. I saw Empire in the theater with my parents, one of the last things we did as a family before the divorce.
When Zahn's _Thrawn Trilogy_ came out, we hoped it would be the new set of films, and I was excited for it.
By 2015 I'd been neck-deep in the EU for over 30 years, sharing the books with my step-sons, playing RPGs, building models...
When Disney declared the EU no longer canon I was excited. What could possibly so *amazing* that they could replace the entire EU? What would replace Thrawn, Rogue Squadron, The New Jedi Order, The Vong? What would replace Stackpole, Zahn, Salvatore, Alliston, Tyres, Keyes, Cunningham, etc...? It *must* be epic!
TFA happened.
I heckled it in the theatre. It was stupid.
OK. Well... maybe...
No. They're all stupid.
When _The Mandalorian_ started I had some hope. Maybe we'll forget the Sequels happened. Maybe we'll move on, tell good stories, salvage something. At least Thrawn made it into Rebels!
But this year hurt the most. I realized that _The Mandalorian_ and _The Bad Batch_ were now being hijacked by storylines to make the Sequels happen. They doubled down on the New Republic being stupid, as if 4 years w/o a senate made everyone forget how to run a government. They doubled down on cloning Sheev and Midichlorians. Nothing would ever be free from the abomination of the Sequels.
Since _The Convert_ I've been in mourning. It's like a relative who you knew was sick, but you'd hope they would pull through... and then they die, or go mad, and the person you loved is forever lost.
I hate it.
I am 100% with you. I feel like Disney has treated SW scripts like Mad-Libs (do you remember those?). I am actually in pain, my soul hurts from what has happened. I had no idea I would feel so empty.
@@ArtooDetour I'm pretty sure it's grief we're all feeling, we just haven't put the name to it yet.
Fantastic review on the subject. Funny how you mentioned the original trilogy as the young man looking for adventure, etc without mentioning princess Leia(who even as a man actually was my favorite character in a new hope and not because of attraction) but my point being these studios just have to tell a good story and create good characters, not shoehorning in bad, unlikable, undeveloped characters for modern identity politics. People don't need to see themselves on the screen to enjoy it! In fact if that's the reason for purchasing a ticket then I feel sorry for you. Thanks for the awesome post!
I felt the same way until last night... At one point in time, I made a tradition to watch the original trilogy once every year. Disney ruined it completely. They infused one of my most beloved franchises with identity politics, dumbed down the universe to a laughable point, filled it with painful story decisions, and most of all: Girl-bosses and Mary Sues on the level on Tumblr fan-fiction. Or as Critical Drinker puts it: *tHe MeSsAgE!* BUT: Last night, I played through Jedi Fallen Order for the first time. I avoided it like the plague until now, even though friends kept telling me it was amazing. The finale had me in tears because it made me remember why I used to love Star Wars in the first place. It showed me that the original spirit is still alive in some people... That a comeback is possible if good writers make it happen. Just not with Disney and their "activist writers." For the first time in a decade, I have hope for Star Wars, just because of one game.
You should play the Sequel.
@@achaudhari101 I am totally going to! That's why I played the first one, actually. The only thing is I only got a PC, so I'm waiting for a performance patch because I heard that version is hot garbage right now. Can't have it all, I guess 🤣
I think the reason way both Obi-Wan and Boba Fett were written to be intentionally bad is because like in the sequel they want to denigrate previous character to uplift a new ones Disney made. Also they are using these shows to try to explain things that happened in the sequels.
It hurts to know that everything that Luke, Han and Leia did mant nothing in the end and we will never see stories featuring them on adventures again.
And Anakin’s Chosen One sacrifice also didn’t actually defeat the Sith and bring balance to the Force.
I don’t know how you all think the obi wan show was so bad. It definitely had alot of flaws, but it did what was most important, obi wand arc from depression to the hopefully confident man in a new hope
@@dualmoldedb3088 because they don't realize it's never going to hit like it did back when you were 8
J.R.R. Tolkien was right ... evil can not create, it can only corrupt and destroy what good people have created.
You're wrong about everything Luke, Han & Leia doing meaning nothing. The Disney sequel movies & TV shows aren't canon. They're mega-overpriced "fan-made" movies. They're not true Star Wars logos. They're make-believe. Expensive mimics. They don't take away from the originals. I ignore them.
As a Star Trek fan I feel the same.
@dlairdiablo The Husbands of River Song is a good end point of modern Who. If you stop there it's still good.
Excellent video.
I've watched many on this topic but for some reason when you talked about how teaching Star Wars was as common as learning how to swim it made me emotional.
I was 8 when the originals came out and remember the bond that it formed, often between people with nothing else in common.
Why is it always so hard to recognize the good times when we're in them? Without contrast we seem oblivious to our quality of life.
Very well said. An accurate analysis that nails how most of us feel. “The way it’s supposed to be.” Disney just doesn’t get that. I don’t think they care to and that’s what is so unfortunate. Thank you for sharing.
You clearly and succinctly vocalized all my own feelings. I've never seen your channel before but your humor is on point too and your voice is lovely 👀 I might have to check out more!
Starwars used to be great, I loved the lego games aswell. Now starwars is dead.
The annoying thing about the new lego games is that they had to add a real dub as the new films aren't so iconic that you know what's happening without dialogue
Take out the Sequel trilogy Lego games it would have been great!
As we all age, we’ll never recapture that first feeling of seeing a movie like Star Wars. Nothing, no matter what some fans claim, can replicate it. And there is the problem: older fans want a proper sequel that no matter who directs it or owns the rights to SW, could ever be created.
What got me into Star Wars was lego star wars on ps2. Good ol' memories.
Very heartfelt video. Thank you. I think you summed it up nicely.
I saw a New Hope in 1977 and it was breathtaking. It was magic.
When I walked out of the Force Awakens in 2015 I was laughing how awful it was.
There was no magic, no mythological power - it was just a Fan Film rehash of a New Hope.
Skipped The Last Jedi and the third film.
Rogue One was depressing. Solo just a heist film...
Only the first season of Mando was good at catching the spirit.
Too much wokery, Rey is a Mary Sue and the stories are poorly put together.
What they did to Luke and Han was unforgiveable.
The first 6 films are enough.
Modern Star Wars is now dead, a former shell of itself.
Excellent video and spot on analysis. I feel your pain except I was 12 when I saw Episode IV in the theaters. They have killed nearly half a century of devotion to the franchise. I never saw the last movie and it's still hard for me to believe that a star wars movie would come out and I wouldn't attend. It's insane.
HEY, I made it into your video! (at 8:49) Funny thing I never got to see that footage no matter how much I looked for it. A few years ago on my birthday after attending an aunt's funeral it popped up in my feed. Wish I had known the May 4th previous as I was on the same news station. Keep the faith you had for it inspired you to better things in life.
I feel you, young lady. I was eight when my aunt convinced my mom to let her take her Star Trek obsessed nephew to this new science fiction movie he just _had_ to see.
It was the most awesome thing I'd ever seen from the first moment when it take thirty seconds for that massive star destroyer to fly past the camera. That kid has a hovering car with three jet engines! He's got a LASER SWORD! Aliens that didn't look like people in obviously rubber masks. For me, it was when Luke climbs down into the gun turret on the Falcon and the chair starts tracking with the gun that I decided I wanted to be Luke Skywalker when I grew up.
On the playground the monkey bars that used to be our Enterprise became the falcon and everyone started fighting over who got to be Luke or Han instead of Kirk, Spock, or Scotty. A problem that only intensified after Christmas when the Star Wars toys finally came out.
Then The Last Jedi came out . . . It was a movie designed, carefully crafted, lovingly, intentionally scripted to insult, alienate, and infuriate EVERYONE who ever thought of Luke Skywalker as a hero.
You can't make those movies unless you LOATH the characters of Luke and Han. And that is what I see in Obi-Wan and the Sequel Trilogy - the people making these things HATE Star Wars and everything they seem to think Star Wars meant to people. And yet - the whole time they're supposedly motivated by the desire to make back the four billion dollars they spent buying the franchise from George Lucas . . .
These movies could have been, should have been, the easiest money Disney ever made. Instead every movie made less money - every show has earned fewer viewers (and streaming shows don't make ANY money since, without advertising, they can't monetize their audience) and sold less and less merchandise. They've killed the goose that laid the golden eggs - and the funniest thing about it is that they seem genuinely confused that the goose isn't still dropping gold in their laps.
Well said. There does seem to be a true disdain for the ideals and themes of the original movies and a disdain for anyone that wants Star Wars to just stay Star Wars.
Great video. Great appeal to emotion! This is a refreshing and vulnerable take.
Great commentary offering hope for the future at the end. Good job!
I've loved Star Wars since seeing RotJ in its theatrical rerelease in '85. That love only intensified year-over-year leading up to the release of Episode I. Those represent my personal bookends for the era of Star Wars that I continue to maintain my passion for. To me, Star Wars as an idea and pop-culture phenomenon begins on May 25th, 1977 and ends on May 18th, 1999. As a fan of many other greatly maligned franchises, I find it personally very easy to accept the good bits and ignore the bad. Aliens, Star Trek, Highlander, Middle Earth...the list of franchise genocide goes on forever. But the good stuff is still good and I'm happy to accept those parts of it. The greatest tragedy, as you stated, is not really on behalf of the existing fans but of the unfortunate fate of the potential "new" fan, who might look upon these classic sagas, once so rightfully well-regarded, now flush with and surrounded by terrible, confusing, anti-productive schlock. Can you convince someone that Star Wars is indeed deserving of fandom and admiration when only a small minority of it's modern content is actually of good quality? At what point does one come off as merely and old man yelling at clouds? I hate that Star Wars has been driven into the ground in recent years. I'm only thankful that I was there from very near the beginning so that I have the fortune to have seen (and can still see) what a magical thing it was. Cheers!
I enjoyed hearing your take, well done. The impact of SW was indescribable in 77. I can recite every line in 4-6. Those younger than me have no idea the shock to the imagination we all experienced. They lost me earlier than you though, at Midi-chlorians...the mystery of the Force died for me then. The Force is available to everyone. Only, that seems minor in comparison to what destruction Disney has caused. I actually despise SW now. Currently, it stands for everything wrong in our society today.
I've never felt like I did watching the last jedi. I actually felt like I saw someone I loved murdered in front of me. The only reason I didn't walk out was because I couldn't believe the entire movie was going to be terrible, but I did want to walk out and jump online to find out what the hell is going on with star wars. It was that day I knew star wars was over. And I can't stand baby yoda.
You have outdone yourself, excellent video with incredible points. Thanks for making and sharing..
As someone who grew up watching the prequel trilogy and just wanted to see bigger and better parts of the Star Wars universe on the big screen, nothing crushed those dreams harder than the sequel trilogy. I stopped caring the moment I walked out of TLJ, and you perfectly summed up how I felt and how I currently feel. I love the original Saga, but Disney Star Wars just isn't Star Wars.
Multiple things outside the Sequels say otherwise.
Exactly. I only barely cared after TFA, which was atrocious in and of itself. But even so, there were 2 movies to salvage it, so I was still invested and interested. TLJ CRUSHED the interest I had left. Saw Rise of Skywalker once because a friend had a ticket and wanted me to go with him. I sat in disbelief as it progressively got worse than TLJ. It's the only time I've seen it. And I now just don't even care any more. But I do enjoy these youtube videos from time to time. It's like that old ex-girlfriend who dumped me that I don't care about anymore, but I get a kick out of seeing her ruin her life. 🤣
@@Wonderboywonderings There’s more than the Sequels.
@@achaudhari101 but the sequels are what killed it. Everything else is just beating a dead horse, and sometimes that horse kicks back.
This PERFECTLY captures and explains my overall feelings towards Star Wars today. Everything is spot on, from the incredible impact the original films brought to the world to the controversial yet misunderstood prequel films. These films and especially the prequels are what sparked my passion and my love for Star Wars, especially during the toughest moments of my childhood. And the sequels to me felt like it crushed that spark. The Force Awakens felt too much like A New Hope but I wanted to give these movies a chance. The Last Jedi was the first film that I left the theatre feeling nothing but anger and confusion. And Rise of Skywalker felt like a joke as it was scrambling what little was left that people cared about, and it ruined even that.
Since those movies I never cared to watch The Mandalorian, I hated the Obi-Wan show that I've heard so much about during its development, and I stopped caring about this franchise really after the finale of the Clone Wars. To me that show gave me closure on (in my opinion) one of the last good stories Star Wars had to tell. Now the Ahsoka show is coming out, and I feel so burnt out and I care so little of what these movies have become that all I can do is watch, as everything starts falling apart.
Thank you for this analysis, I think you perfectly highlighted what me and many of my friends are thinking about what Star Wars has become. As much as I love more Star Wars content, as much as I love exploring these new worlds and seeing all of these wonderful characters, this franchise should have died a long time ago.
Subbed! In addition to making great points I love how you call out all the drama surrounding only! Good job!
I think the main issue with new Star Wars is that it lacks a soul and a purpose. The Sequel Trilogy feels lost and without a theme. It's disjointed and the characters feel fake. It's a huge missed opportunity to continue the grand themes that Lucas established: History, philosophy and character.