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it's a little weird to compare CoD to Battlefield because Battlefield matches are so much bigger, you can't as much into it because of hardware limitations.
@Jach Liccroy That's such a poor comparison. CoD is a much larger franchise with a bigger player-base. And they don't even have the same style of game. Battlefield matches are huge games of Ground War, and while CoD usually does have a Ground War mode, it's hardly played because people prefer the smaller TDM or Search n Destroy
I must congratulate with the work behind battlefield, it's awesome and really incredible how they removed all the millions details and features from the previous games , it must have been a really hard work!
Who would've thought that stripping everything out and adding in shit nobody wanted would make people hate the game. If they just did Battlefield 4 but moved the timeline up and added more reactivate maps we would love it. Or in my 35 year old mind. Just do Battlefield 2 again and let us have mod support.
@@fuma2980 bf 2042 vs cod 2019 cod will surely win and the last game also bf5 was trash but both games are different categories if you want a bf type category game you'll love bf if youll love cod type category youll love cod
COD is the best selling FPS title and 3rd best selling franchise even after the collective abomination of vanguard. I’m a battlefield fan as well, and I think that both are good in their own way. But after mw2019, cod is truly better than battlefield. MWII will blow bf again.
@@mduggy1396 mw19 was amazing and a fresh breath for the cod franchise, cold war was decent in my opinion but vanguard i did not like at all especially when it was added to wz. but hyped as hell for mwII :)
We say that BF4 were always ahead now, but BF4 was a big mess up until a year aswell. I mean the launch was extremely bad, i and many friends had many crashes up to a year after launch. BF4 now is incredible and great, but it had some really bad moments too.
Bf4 had huge bugs, glitches and optimisation issues. But the Dev team doesn’t divert from core fundamentals of a typical Bf game. But the dice team now, changed that in 2042. That’s why bf4 was a massive success even it suffered from issues. Bf2042 abandoned bf formula.
@@Torbis i tell people this too when they shit on bf2042, tends to make them go quiet since they realize 2042 wasnt the only terrible launch game dice did lol
It’s amazing how the smallest things that seem inconsequential like cars bouncing when hopped on or deflating tires etc. can make such a massive difference in the immersion of a game.
They don't, these details have like 0.001% on your total experience with it, of course like you say it makes it more immersive, more believable, but jesus I find it so dumb the millions of people who use this type of videos to judge entirely a game, saying Red Dead 2 is the best game ever because they saw in some RUclips compilation that horses have balls, when meanwhile the game has a game design from 2003 and gives you a game over for even trying to flank a group of ennemies. The stupid useless shit casuals base themselves on to judge the quality of a game is unreal. I can understand appreciating all the littles details the devs took the time to put into the game, but going as far as judging an entire game only on this is something I find so dumb
You'd think but the reality is that they don't. I've played MW/warzone a lot. Barely noticed any of these things. They're pointless. Most notable imo is the weapon sling. I've never seen something more useless and by extension, detrimental to the experience. Why? Well for starters the asset is still there. There's clearly physics attached to it and there needs to be a more elaborate system in place for things to work that way. Compare that to bf 2042. It does it right. Swap to secondary and your primary despawns. Why is this right? Resources. Optimisation etc. I'd also like to point out the fact that bf 2042 has 128 players. MW doesn't even come close. Ground war is all it has basically. Warzone is different in the fact that there's definitely things left out or changed just so they can get 100 player lobbies to work properly. So in reality it's not really a 1 to 1 comparison. But yeah, there's so much detail that's just fucking irrelevant in MW. Impressive on the devs for doing that. Ultimately pointless as it doesn't make the game inherently better
@@maybeiamepic2263 what the weapon sling thing? I mean I'd say the grenades not rolling in 2042 kinda breaks immersion, but it's also a game. Games working exactly like real life isn't always good. I've missed so many guaranteed grenade kills in CoD just by NOT using semtex (though I did get pretty good timing the fuse) And why do people use semtex? To stick? No, not really. Its cus it lands where you want it to explode and then it fucking explodes and kills the people. Not bounce and end up in a different post code or god forbid back right where it was thrown from :V
@@XenonArcher I don’t think the small details effect optimization all that much. They add to the environment and I think more devs need to try adding them in when possible because in many cases it’s eye-candy and can even add to the experience of the game. I hate to say it but COD has BF2042 beat on that aspect. Now, I think BF2042 has bigger fish to fry but that’s besides the point.
Battlefield has always historically been the more realistic game, I'm surprised at this. But yeah MW they really upped the realism with how the guns handle. They got actual military personnel to operate them all for reference.
The times have definitely changed. I never thought there would be a day when CoD's level of realism and attention to detail would eclipse a Battlefield title (if you could even call that 2042 garbage a Battlefield title to begin with). And I have always been more a Battlefield fan than a CoD fan having played both for more than 15 years. I still remember when people were shitting on MW3's lack of attention to detail when compared to BF3 & BF4, for things like the mags in the trailer and game itself, literally being just a block with no visible bullets remotely visible on it when reloading. Fast forward some 8 - 10 years later and the tables have flipped almost completely. With the new MW2 coming in hot and honestly looks breathtaking, if the next Battlefield title is another flaming heap of garbage like 2042, CoD is gonna mop the floor with the BF franchise and personally I'm for it. Because those current Battlefield devs and anyone from EA who's responsible, need a thorough beat down and a real taste of failure to maybe get them back on the right track. Otherwise, it's been a complete derailment of the Battlefield franchise.
Dude I agree completely. I think many of the really good devs from Bf3 and Bf4 are gone at this point, and it’s really sad. I used to talk SO highly of DICE and now it just makes me sad
@@nickbuckley4371 EA does seem to have a habit of firing or killing off teams/Studios with actual talent while keeping around those who just do what they want.
As a hardcore BF fan it’s sad to see where the franchise has gone, I’ve always liked CoD but preferred BF but tbh this was the last straw for me man I’m excited to see how good this new CoD will be this year
This just feels like we're in the worst timeline, I remember decades of praising battlefield for the immersion that cod didn't have and now this. Wow this hits hard.
@Nobody i mean its disappointing because cod releases every year while battle field dosent. they had more time to improve on a game than cod yet the manage to fuck it up even more
The new generation MW added a lot in terms of how weapons feel. A lot of people can’t tell you exactly what makes great sound but they can easily tell you what sounds good and what doesn’t. With that said, what will always make a classic is how well a game changes the playing grounds. It can’t be a classic if it does exactly what others do.
What makes the guns in mw2019 sound so good is that infinity ward actually recorded the sounds that the irl guns make and stuck them in the game, all other games just stick in computer generated gun sounds
Great video. 2 things to note though. The click sound you’re hearing, in real life is actually the sound of the trigger resetting. It does technically happen when you release the trigger, but the sound is actually caused by the trigger resetting back to the fully unfired position so you can fire again. Secondly, the barrel on a hand gun doesn’t tilt so the rounds can slide into the chamber easier lol.. it’s because that particular gun uses a browning tilting barrel style recoil delay/locking method. So when the slide comes back and the barrel tilts up, it’s actually because the gas pressure has increased enough to unlock the action and cycle the firearm.
Just thought of this, but a sweet detail to look for would be games that have say a Glock, but then also have a like a Beretta 92FS (M9) as well. I’d be really impressed if the barrel tilts on the glock and not the beretta. That’d show that they really did their homework
Yeah I was going to comment that the Glock and 1911 both use the Browning tilting barrel. If you watch one of those guns fire in slow motion you'll see the barrel tilting.
@Tyrone Smith yeah.. you can really only do so much to make a trigger good when it’s a polymer framed striker fired gun unfortunately. You can get them a lot better than stock but still not great
@@MX009m I agree. The game got so much unnecessary hate. But the dlc maps got better and better and showed that they learned what the community wanted. So I hope mw2 is a more refined version because they know what works and what doesn’t. Can’t wait
@@Frank-eh3jc the reason people hated MW 2019 was because the maps were not traditional style maps (not quite 3 lanes and very open), loud footsteps, ghost always active, and the unsuppressed fire doesn't appear on the mini map as red dot. If at least the footsteps, ghost, and mini map were changed it would have been better received by an even LARGER portion of the community. The MW2 devs said they has learned from MW 2019 so hope that means fixing these things I mentioned.
I’m really impressed that the mag release moves. It’s something I never bothered to pay attention to because I would never have thought the developers would care to put something as minor as a mag release moving. Not to mention the sound of the trigger resetting. Amazing
Yeah small details really should not be praised in arena shooters though where the vast majority of the playerbase will never notice. The time and resources spent on that could have been put elsewhere. For CoD that is modeling leg position and for BF that would have been better used modeling one-handed ladder climbs or rolling grenades. Likewise modeling pin deformation for BF and Car suspension and tire deflation could have been spent on weapon slings for the former and ground deformation and mobile vehicle hit markers for the latter. Point is they both put resourcs where frankly they would have been better placed and more noticed elsewhere.
@@ShiningDarknes I very much love and appreciate attention to detail myself, especially as I started on games that didn't have the luxury of minute high res details. Key word- luxury. It's not worth the price if it comes at the expense of gameplay in titles like these. I think the push for higher and higher pixel counts and fidelity make it more noticeable when those details aren't there too, which means more backlash for leaving them out. :( I think the community myself included at times and marketing from publishers have raised expectations so high the expense and risk of making these games has grown too great to achieve everything we want in a big title.
@@ShiningDarknes yeah I agree it’s pretty neat that they added those small details but the resources could have been better utilized to put forth something that would actually matter.
I really believe the lack of a campaign in 2042 caused them to not focus on these small details as much. I’d assume they attempt to make the campaigns as detailed and immersive as possible which is why they would focus on those details and port them over to multiplayer. It’s so ridiculous how in the map entirely made of ice, they didn’t make any way to make a crack in it lol
The amount of effort that went into maintaining "realism" in MW 2019 was incredible. Almost every weapon modification was based on a real world counterpart. You could turn the M4 into an M16 or an MPX. The M9 could become a 93R, etc. But the most impressive detail, in my opinion, was the new way "slight of hand" functioned. All of the weapon animations are amazing. Not only are there different animations for empty or combat reloads, but the attachments on the weapon also have an effect on the animations (large scopes, or folded stocks can block non ambidextrous controls, the P90 can't be reloaded while aiming because of the top loaded magazine, etc) But "SoH" really stood out. The animation for the regular M4 empty reload, has the PC remove the empty magazine with the left hand, and retaining it, before inserting a full mag, slapping it to ensure it's seated (SPORTS, babyyy) and pulling the charging handle. Equipping "slight of hand" didn't just increase the speed of the animation. It changed the animation to a more practiced, and efficient reload method. When empty, the PC would instead, grab a fresh magazine with the left hand, press the release letting the empty drop to the ground, insert the new mag, and then press the bolt release, instead of charging the weapon. Not only was the reload faster, but the weapons ready time was also faster, and the point of aim is more consistent. The AK reload switches to the over the top, left handed charging method, keeping the rifle shouldered, and the right hand on the trigger. Every weapon in the game has several animations, for empty or combat reloads, with or without SoH, and dependant of the build of the weapon, and magazine choice. Cold War has stocks wrapped in duct tape to make you slide faster... Vanguard has an M1 rifle with a precision laser, advanced FLIR optic, and 30 round box magazine... Just like the one grandpa used...
@@luger700 it would save time grinding out a brand new gun, but I get your point, it’s a different gun not just attachments. I assume it was made for just making things simpler
@@luger700 they're literally the exact same gun, chambered in different calibers, and with different barrel length.. both are stamped sheet receivers, with the exact same design, with minimal upgrades between the akm and ak74.
@@luger700 if I take an M16, and change the upper, it can be an M4 chambered in .300blk, it can be an mk11, it can be an sr-25. they're the same gun. different iterations. how do you think they developed the ak74 series rifles? they made changes to the akm to improve performance, and versatility.
I used to be a weapons instructor in the military. I feel in love with MW weapon feel almost immediately! Due to my prior experience, I kept found myself going, "Hm, seems right, feels right," which I had never done with games before. Everything felt crisp, and just....right? Probably the only game where I'll choose weapons based on "crispness."
If Modern Warfare impressed you (which it should, it's pretty detailed and accurate, especially for an arcade FPS) and you have a PC, you should try Escape From Tarkov. That game has arguably the most realistic gun sounds, mechanics, attention to detail etc. But be warned, it's not a simple arcade shooter like COD. It won't hold your hand so you'll have to overcome a huge learning curve before you can actually enjoy it lol. But the guns and their mechanics are sooo satisfyingly realistic that you will not be disappointed.
Suppressors also turn red hot in CoD, you can see exactly how many rounds are in your mag on some mags by inspecting, there are unique animations for some perks, and there are different muzzle flash and gas animations for the different muzzle attachments
Why do most game companies always downgrade ? Like holy shit the only thing they fucking care about is graphics and they care about it so much to the point where its required to have a decent setup to play the games properly. And not to mention the amount of fucking cash grabs in the present games
It’s time that people realize that the Frostbite engine just isn’t as cutting edge as it used to be. A lot of studios have caught up and surpassed it since Battlefield 3 came out a decade ago. Battlefield 2042 is proof of Frostbite’s limitations. They abandoned detail for the sake of scale and it clearly didn’t pay off.
I feel that it's not about the engine its about the people working on that engine, the team that worked on previous games are not around anymore and it clearly shows.
bf never beat it in the first place, CoD has always been more popular, from the original mw series to the black ops series. + all the iconic campaigns and zombies.
For the saving bullets part, I thought you were going to mention that the Sleight of Hand perk sometimes causes the player to get rid of magazines with ammo in it too.
This really puts things into perspective, and I've always been more of a Battlefield guy even though I've played most CoD's. MW 2019 really nailed it with the visuals and the sound is just so good too. The guns sound punchy and look hefty.
@@seanpalmer3982 that mw developers(infinity ward) are different and the engine is only exclusive to them, coldwar and vanguard both different devs. So now everytime infinity ward release a cod game you will get mw engine. Like the upcoming mw2 and probably future mw3
@@AbdurRahim-ep5qv That's not true actually, Vanguard uses the MW19 engine. It was even a selling point they tried to use. Just goes to show that because you have the same engine it doesn't mean you'll have the same quality. Quality is dependent on the skill and effort the devs put it (and who's directing it of course).
@@whatm8516 yes there is a difference when you own something and use someone elses stuff and try to make it perfect, you cant ever master it never lol, mw had the best realistic sound effect any video game guns had offered, but vanguard was even worse than cw.
The barrel tilt isn't there necessarily to help rounds in the chamber, it's part of the delayed blowback system in most modern pistols. Autoloading pistols that shoot 9x19mm parabellum and above power wise require a certain amount of resistance that simple blowback operation can't provide unless you have a really strong spring and a heavy slide, which would make the gun recoil heavy and make pulling the slide back a chore.
Modern warfare 2019 will always impress me with the gun sounds animations and handling, the realism blew me away when it came out I didn't expect it to come out as good as it did, when I heard realism before the game came out, I was concerned but after the game launched I have embraced it and want it for future cod games as well. I never get bored playing this game on full volume ❤
The barrel tilting up on the pistol at 4:00 is actually due to the locking system of the pistol (Browning tilting barrel). The vast majority of 9mm, 40, 45, and 10mm use this system of barrel lock up. It holds the action of the weapon closed for a fraction of a second so the gun doesn’t unlock too soon. It is necessary on any pistols 9mm and up (with some rare exceptions like hi points, or rotating barrel pistols (Beretta PX4), or gas operated pistols (H&K P7).
@@rileyflint1619 an important part of a semi automatic pistols design is keeping the slide and barrel together for long enough for the explosion from the cartridge to dissipate. Otherwise you get the action (slide of the handgun in this case) opening pre-maturely and that explosion can split shell cases, shoot fire/unburnt powder out of the ejection port. For low powered ammunition (generally 380 acp and down from there), the weight of the slide and the strength of the recoil spring are enough to keep the action (slide) closed for safe operation. This is referred to as a straight blowback gun. Once you hit 9mm and above, the slide and recoil spring are generally not strong enough to keep the action closed for long enough for safe operation, unless you make the spring way stronger and the slide way heavier. Since making the spring way stronger and slide way heavier is impractical as it makes the gun heavier and harder to operate, alternative systems were designed to keep the action closed for that split second longer for the explosion to happen, essentially adding a bit of mechanical resistance into the mix. That mechanical resistance in handguns is also referred to as “locked breach”. There are several types of mechanical resistance designs. The most popular of which is a John Moses Browning (best gun designer of all time, in many peoples opinion) tilting barrel design. As the gun is fired, the barrel and slide are locked together until a cam tilts the barrel up as you see in the video game animation. That slows down the opening of the action just enough to contain the explosion and make the gun safe to shoot. Rifles also have similar systems that accomplish the same thing (I could go into more detail on rifles bc they are a bit different, but this comment is long enough). Long story short, it is a safety mechanism. Otherwise you could get burns or worse the gun could batter itself to death or explode in your hands, or a case rupture could occur. Always wear hearing and eye protection when shooting guns of any type.
The shooting through walls thing is probably one of the most depressing things about battlefield. Really just the lack of environmental manipulation in general. I feel like bc1 even had a lot more. They significantly dumped down the amount of things you can do that made battlefield so great and unique. That's not even acknowledging ridiculous game play decisions and bugs. I'm looking forward to mw2, I hope they still have groundwar type modes for those of us that finally migrated to cod for a dedicated shooter game.
I remember playing Bad Company 1 and 2 back in the day and being blown away by how I could manipulate and destroy the map as a player. Even Battlefield 3 had that to some extent. With each passing game it just gets less and less and to me the destruction and ability to change the map with player choice was what made Battlefield fun and unique. Yes stuff like blowing up the building in Rush in BC2 to advance the objective was not very balanced, but it was also unique and fun in its own way.
To be fair, the jump from bad company 2 to battlefield 3 in regards to enviromental destruction was depression in a literal sense and they still never redemed themselves
I’ve used it quite a few times. Nobody expects a Desert Eagle to the face when standing in front of what should be an empty ledge. Very useful against campers on Rammaza.
Fun fact, if you choose a skin that has a pistol (like the Ghost skin) even if you don't have a pistol equipped in your secondary slot, your character will pull out the pistol on their skin. You only get 1 mag though.
Mw19 was the only cod game where I would spend some good time solo in a custom lobby just inspecting weapons and getting a better feel of them and the available attachments. The amount of detail is incredible for a cod game. I believe people in this game would use certain guns simply because they liked the “feel” of them even though there would be better weapons for me it was the amax. The gun just felt and looked incredible and my secondary was always the m19 something about it was just so satisfying to use. That being said the incorporation of the gunsmith letting you be able to build the weapons you choose to use it close medium or long quarters gunfights was a genius touch from cod and added so much playability by trying out the wide variety of attachments.
Yeah and being able to pretty much make other real weapons by just gunsmith was incredible. Like the AK-47 could be turned into the 74M or even a AK-100 series as well as RK-74. And being able to make some dmr versions of assault rifle platforms was so amazing.
100% agree. Vast amount of playtime was spent tinkering with all weapons, designing them for various situations and finding new classes to explore with. I truly hope this tradition carries over to future cod titles, along with the otherworldly immersion that MW19 brought along.
@@SkyVals we were just talking about how every gun was that much okay that you could pick your favourite by the feel of the gun. And here you come "BuT AmAX NOt gOOd ANyMoRe"🥴🥴🤡
Another thing: in mw when changing the muzzle to a compensator or flash hider or something else, you can see a difference of the gas pattern coming out of the barrel while shooting. Also the barrel in mw is rifled. You can see this if you look into an desert eagle for example. 🙃🙃🙃
Not only that in the battlefield revolver the fired cartridges have dented primers, the animation clearly shows the character dumping the not fired ammo first into his hand (not losing ammo) and then using the ejector to get rid of the spent cases. I'm not sure how reliable this would be in an actual revolver - but the detail is based on reality - unfired cartridges should fall more or less freely from the cylinder. At the same time, it is expected that the spent ones will bulge a bit and don't fall freely from the cylinder when tipped, so an ejector has to be used - so the character here uses the difference to save unfired ammo while allowing himself to use speedloader. I love the reload. Funny how everything else has less detail than MW and here they went overboard.
I gotta say, modern warfare 2019 absolutely raised the bar on attention to detail and absolutely stunning animations, I doubt many other studios will put in the effort they did
Never thought I'd see a time when COD has more attention to detail than BF. No wonder the franchise is going to shit. I still remember BF series with BF3 smashing COD's MW3
Sadly I think MW2 this year will have the same issue tbh. Warzone will definitely tie into the game still. It’s a shame really, I’m spoiled by my PS5 having games with file sizes half the size of those on other platforms or even just the last gen version of the game.
@@LaggingDuck- they said that with respect to current Warzone - likely because the overall menu containing MW2019 and Cold War and Vanguard is too crowded and is convoluted. I have absolutely no doubt that when Warzone 2.0 releases it will be a required download to be able to play MW2022. Activision uses technicalities like that all of the time so when they do the same shit again they’re technically not lying.
The barrels of these firearms do not tilt to assist with loading round, though I’m sure it helps. The barrel tilts due to the Browning tilting barrel lockup. When a round is fired, the entire slide shifts rearward about 1/4-1/2” to allow high pressure to equalize. Then the barrel “tilts” to unlock the barrel from the slide so the slide can complete its travel to the rear to eject the spent casing and pick up another round on its forward motion to then lock back up and to be fired again. 😊😃. Edit: thanks for the upvotes friends. I really appreciate it!
I mean, it does inherently help with feeding in pistols because the feed ramp doesn't reach the magazine until the barrel travels into position as the slide goes rearwards. You are 100% correct, the primary design feature was tilt barrel lockup while the feed ramps were designed as such to account for the travel required to free up the slide.
@@catf4077 yep! it was one of the first to do it and nowadays, almost every pistol design has that Browning tilting action included! it's pretty amazing how well John Browning designed guns that we're still using his designs and his guns even to this day over 110 years ago! 😁👌🏻
It's so sad how trash battlefield has become... battlefield used to blow cod out of the water in just about every aspect but that's definitely not the case anymore these days. Sad times
@Aveteran Player No. BFV’s was superior to even 1 in terms of small details, animations, graphics etc… BFV was criticized for things like the customization but in terms of mechanics it’s incredible. BFV beats The shit out of any cod in comparisons, you should watch some. It even Beats 1.
@Aveteran Player ruclips.net/video/7En7wvfIy_M/видео.html everyone in the comments is saying that MW doesn’t even come close to BFV now so trashing on what you don’t know.
@Aveteran Player actually yes, but not because of the theme, but EA’s « awakening » made me boycotting it. It was no longer Battlefield, but Inclusionfield and it ruined it as they went further from Arma and closer to Fortnite.
You can really tell the MW dev team got some quality trigger time and actually took the time to learn how the guns they put into the game actually work. Meanwhile, the BF2042 team looks like they only had a passing familiarity with firearms.
this was one of my top reasons that stopped me from playing warzone after CW integration, CW and Vanguard were really way behind MW19 dev team in almost every aspect, i hope MW2 has the same feel of MW19 or better.
@@iiFuture I played through the campaign, and afterwards thought about it, the reload animations felt SO familiar......true as nuts, there was his name in the credits. Can't escape the Robotkin.
@@MX009m I still use MW guns from time to time. Most MW guns feel super crisp while some Vanguard guns feel like I am shooting water despite being much stronger. Their agency is to change the gun balance to sell their games and 30$ skins, that is why VG guns are buffed while MW guns are literally made unplayable.
@@SkynetGeneral yeah, the vantard weapons have next to no recoil (can't remember the name but there's this assault rifle that doesn't move at all and fires at the same rate as the MP5).
I'm such a battlefield mark. 3&4 were superb. The gritty details of the area you were in were perfect. 2042 just looks clean and well like a game. No realism. Cod absolutely stole their crown with MW19.. And MW2 campaign looks stunning...
It's like 2042 was created by AI. It's off on so many levels. It's a clean and sterilized imitation of a Battlefield game, with Specialists added because the AI knows how much human gamers love Specialists.
Can't leave out Bad Company 2 aswell. It was the Battlefield that introduced me to the series and omg was it so good 😊 And honestly, as goofy as Hardline was, it was still a solid game. I had a TON of fun with it personally, even if it wasn't the prototypical Battlefield. Also BF1 was very solid. BFV is where things started to go downhill and now BF2042 is at the bottom of that hill lol
@@Reginald_Harrison 2042 being put together by mostly AI makes too much sense lmao. The game's art direction is all over the place, feeling like random assets from different artists with different styles being thrown together with lighting that does not fit with anything, like ain't no way an AAA dev team run by humans can be THAT dumb. Stuff like Anthem which was basically one of the worst thing ever atleast had good art direction and stayed consistent in terms of visuals
It's strange how a Call of Duty game from 2019 managed to be more innovative with it's details than a Battlefield game from 2021, even though Battlefield always had a reputation for having small little details that Call of Duty doesn't have. Honestly the more I look at Battlefield 2042 the more I appreciate Battlefield 5's little details more because even if the game didn't have that good of a marketing or had a solid launch, DICE did still have some creative thought put into it and managed to give us a game that wasn't as terrible as we told it was back when it released.
@@Rilez616 looking at what your competitors are doing and improving or expanding on that should be a no brainer, especially if your IP has a reputation for being more detailed.
I wish dice wasn't completely fucking stupid with the marketing. I personally don't care they showed a woman (shocker i know) with a prosthetic. However when you go on rants about inclusivity then we have a problem. The reason you put the woman there is tokenism. They could have it be like Wolfenstein where it's an alternate universe WW2 and i don't think there would've been much backlash.
BF2042 runs and feels like an early access game made by a bunch of college students for a class project. BF1 and BFV felt miles ahead of what BF4 and Hardline felt, BF2042 was ten thousand steps back. The Only thing that can save BF2042 is Portal, remaking all of BF3 will make BF2042 worth it.
Nothing can save this crap, main team is working on new BF, 2042 have a small team to push small content, sorry but all ppl whi purchased this crap been fooled. Again after BF5.
People said "the only thing that will save this game is Portal" months ago when the game came out. The game was not saved, and won't ever be. I think people need to accept that.
Not just the animations but the Shockwave from the gun firing, the sounds, the bullets hitting the wall, the smallest details, are what really made mw2019 for me, infinity ward really killed it this time, and I'm so beyond excited for mw2 to see what they bring to the table, I enjoyed mw 2019 alot more than I'd like to admit, hopefully mw2 delivers,
If mw2 2022 Become a Success (beside Ppl Will Find a Way To complain Cause its a Cod game)..Than Cod Should stay as Modern era Military game..That's really suits better with Cod now cause ww2 Fps games are milked afs
who knew a game from 2019 would be better than a game who was released I 2021 also the "empty" mag in bf 2042 still had bullets in it even though it was supposed to be a empty mag
The weapon handling in MW2019 is the best that is and has ever been done, so far. It doesn't feel too animated and the way the weapons recoil leads me to believe that they did high-frame motion capture of professional shooters to understand how a weapon reacts to having been fired.
@@biopower5160 on the contrary, it seems about right, having shot my fair share of rifles, sidearms and shotguns I can safely say I see nothing too off about it.
in mw the mags actually contain real bullets. you can see this with the makarov (sykov) really well as the inspect shows the mag and the bullets can be seen inside. when you shoot a bullet the mag actually begins to empty
@@Cockalicious well in real life or even more realistic games like arma, each magazine is a separate count of bullets. so if you reload before the magazine is empty, then that magazine stays having that many bullets in it. so if you load that magazine back in later on it might only be half full. makes you think twice before reloading a mag that isnt empty.
I never thought I’d see the day when COD pays closer attention time to detailing than BF. I cannot believe that you can’t shoot through walls yet in BF The Craters in BF are impressive
Well, in previous BF titles, you were able to shoot through thin walls. I don't know if all walls are impenetrable on 2042 though since I barely played it.
It's weird how battlefield chose to put their effort unto doing the most unnoticeable or unwanted extra details like the revolver mark instead of the actual details like grenades rolling and the door peeks
Not to defend them, but the primer marks are purely aesthetic while rolling grenades and peeking doors affect gameplay. They could be design decisions, intentionally not coding those features in because they thought they negatively affected gameplay. Who knows... but they are more than just details.
This is probably the first CoD ever to out detailed the graphic giants of DICE. And Infinity Ward hired probably the BEST firearm animator on the planet.
They also hired the second best firearm animator on the planet. They have both Hyper and MrBrightside now. MrBrightside did all the weapon animations for Insurgency Sandstorm. The two are best friends and use to stream them animating weapons back in the day. Awesome to see them working together now.
Maybe if my BF2042 didn't run at 30 fps maybe I would have liked it more... Overall bf2042 was a huge dissapointment for the whole battlefield franchise. Hope that they make a better game after this one, since bf2042 is beyond saving at this point.
The recent updates has rly improved the game tho, I too felt so disappointed with the state of the game’s release but the recent updates has gave me a reason albeit a small slither of hope that bf2042 will become a good game, its just taking too much time to get there😂
Not to battlefield but to shooters in general this game was suppose to resurrect shooters again especially since all 3 games were coming out in the same year turns out vanguard was just a boring copy and paste only made for warzone like Cold War, halo being good but super dry and empty and battlefield just being such a buggy mess that missed out on a lot of things from battlefield along with changes no one wanted besides from player count and map size everyone asked for it and now we regret it
@@pp-xz7rx BF5 was an absolute blast for me and in terms of gunplay and movement it was better than the previous title even though the atmosphere and ambiance picked with BF1 imo. Also, BF5 could go under a large level of destruction and the details they showed were very impressive.
Another detail MW has is that different kinds of bullets sound different when the bullets hit the floor or wall after being fired. Ex. a 9mm will sound different hitting the floor than the sound of a 7.62 hitting the floor
Funny that they even know the difference in caliber these days. They used to call 5.45×39mm weapons submachine guns. Even fucked up the name of that specific weapon to this day.
Though I never played either, this video's an interesting case of what makes games more immersive. Both games have high fidelity models and shaders, but there is that certain something that comes with the world behaving in a believable way. Not necessarily realistic, but believable. They definitely studied how their guns behave. My main gripe with BF2042 from what I've seen in this video is the temporal anti-aliasing that almost gives it a ghost effect sometimes. What's cool about most of these animations and effects is they'd still work well even with much lower fidelity.
As someone with over 300 hours in MW in the last year and 8 hours in BF2042, I’ve got to say whilst BF is a lot of fun, MW makes you feel *in* the game, which BF fails to do. The guns feel cartoonish in BF but in MW the feel like a genuine firearm, making it more immersive and overall a more enjoyable game
@4:00 The tipping action of the barrel is not done to help rounds slide into the chamber easier. It's actually the unlocking of the action, the barrel has to move out of the way so the slide can move backwards to eject the spent casing and load the next round in the magazine. Still, that's a nice detail they added in MW, much more realistic than BF 2042.
6:45 In BF2042, the soldier also saves the two unfired bullets, dumping them into his palm first, then dumping the shot rounds. I always like seeing that in games with revolvers.
3:58 is a bad comparison they are different guns. not all Glock pistols point upwards when the magazine is emptied. This behavior is dependent on the specific model and the individual firearm's design. Some Glock models, such as the Glock 17, do have a tendency to point upwards when the magazine is emptied. This is due to the design of the magazine follower and the angle at which it pushes the slide stop lever when the last round is fired. However, other Glock models, such as the Glock 19, do not exhibit this behavior and may instead simply lock the slide open without pointing upwards.
The tilting barrel is because the lockup system on those pistols is a tilting barrel system. Doesn’t have much to do with rounds getting into the chamber easier.
4:00 its not tilted for rounds to slide into the chamber, it has a feed ramp for that. It is tilted bc when the barrel is horizontal it is locked into the slide, & it must tilt down to unlock so the slide can retract during cycling.
Remember when Battlefield was the king of environmental details in first-person shooters? Modern Warfare I and II stole that crown and will never let go of it.
The pistol barrel tilting isn't anything to do with getting rounds in more easily, it's because the barrel tilts to unlock the slide during each cycle (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recoil_operation). Not all pistols work like this, e.g. the Beretta 92 / M9 and they feed just fine.
2:01 this feature was in mw 2 (2009) and in battlefield 2042, this is no where to be seen. Note that frags tend to role on sloped surfaces, so think twice when throwing one uphill -sgt foley
Tilting barrel is not for rounds to slide easier into the chamber. It's a way to delay the backwards movement of a slide. If there wasn't delay, the slide would be impacting with too much of force. Manufacturers get around it by either making slide bulkier and heavier (e.g. hi-point pistols), tilting barrel (most common among pistols), rotating barrel (e.g. some berettas or grand power) and few other methods that are not that common.
It's a small nitpick but the barrel on pistols doesn't tilt to help feeding. The barrel tilt is what allows it to unlock from the slide as it reciprocates so the gun can function. Most handguns use this Browning tilting barrel design, but not all. The m9 for example uses a fixed barrel design where it does not move at all. Edit: I was wrong, the M9 uses a falling block action. Still different than the tilting barrel in that it only moves front to back but it is not fixed.
The fact that most guns have a locking or delaying mechanism is not very known unless you really looked into how guns function. Like most people that are into racing game have no idea what's the difference in certain engines or how they work.
I was a BF fan since BF2. BF4 is my favorite FPS game. When MW2019 came out, I had a hard time deciding if BF was my favorite franchise. I was so hyped with BF2042 coming out, since they set the standard for excellence, however it was such a disappointment. The team at IW REALLY stepped it up with MW2019 and especially Warzone. Now, Warzone is the better of the two, but I'm not fond of Caldera. Verdansk is pinnacle of how to make a modern FPS BR map. I hope with MW2, they make the same type of map. COD has surpassed BF now! I think we need to give developers more time to make the game that we want instead of this stupid new game every year. I bet it took IW 2 or 3 years to make Verdansk.
People have been saying CoD needs a longer dev cycle for years but Activision loves getting their yearly CoD paycheck and doesn’t care about the quality of the games. MW had some love put into it for sure but Cold War and Vanguard are so boring and have so many bugs. It’s a shame, the devs could make some amazing games if they had more time to work on each game. People like to blame the devs but they are under the iron fist of Activision and have shitty work conditions and lots of crunch time to meet Activisions demands.
@@reallyscaryrob2429 Worth to note that techically COD isn't developed in a year, the yearly releases rotate between 3 studios (Treyarch [Black ops], IW [Modern Warfare], and Sledgehammer [Generally World War games]) so technically each cod is developed in 3 years (although realistically 2 since they also support the game for around a year after they release)
Battlefield games usually are some of the best when it comes to attention to detail. But this one they couldn't even finish gameplay wise, so it's no surprise theres barely any attention to detail.
It needs to be said about the revolver reloads: in 2042, the spent shells don’t fall out without hitting the plunger while the unfired rounds fall out easily. This is completely accurate as the casings from fired rounds will expand inside the chamber and not fall out on their own. Regardless of everything else, I find this quite impressive!
I feel like one of the main staples of the bf franchise was the use of craters, most other fps games never had destructible landscapes like battlefield
IMO MW 2019 is one of the best cods. Definitely can’t beat the nostalgia of the original modern warfares. But the engine and gunsmith and all that make MW 2019 such an amazing game.
Its one of my all time favs but the spec ops launch was horrendous, even if its fine now, and most maps, while good on SnD, dont flow well for traditional multiplayer
It’s cool to see these kinds of details, but most of them are so incredibly insignificant. Though still small, the most immersion breaking ones by far were the lack of craters and faulty leg position in MW. Craters seem kinda difficult to pull off but the leg positioning is something that’s been figured out for well over 10 years. Overall I wouldn’t fault the developers for missing details in either, but it does seem weird that the MW team nailed so many small details but missed 2 of the biggest ones. Speaking as someone who hasn’t played a shooter in years and pretty much only stuck to Halo/Destiny before that, I have no dog in this fight.
Barrel tilt isn't for easier chambering of the next round. It's a blowback delay mechanism; prevents the action unlocking until chamber pressure drops to a safe level.
6:07 It actually doesnt have the feature in 2042. But when you aim the gun and open a door to " peek " It will open slower. Thus giveing the ability to " peek "
Another thing that bugged me about BF2042 (at least the last time I played). When switching ammo types, the mags barely change and the casings coming out of the gun aren't the right type for the ammo. Also, the gun sounds don't change either. MW 2019 had all that detail!
Fun fact about shooting with both eyes open, while this is definitely the norm now, mostly with the U.S. military’s use of the trigicon acog and now with the VCOG depending on magnification, there are some exceptions such as myself. Shooters who are right handed but left eye dominant (and vice versa) are actually recommended to close that dominant eye because it messes with your ability to acquire both the reticle and target at the same time. Issues such as being unable to have your eye focus on the reticle come up. For me, some I would even see two reticles since I was looking through the sight with my non dominant eye.
Yeah I am the same so I was wondering why that would be taught because when I do it 2 redicles show up, must not for people with normal eyes. I'm not in the military if that was implied.
The tilting barrel is a locked breech system designed by the late and great Mr. J.M. Browning. Also called “tilting breech” is where the barrel and the slide both have locking lugs which seal the gasses then begin to unlock when pressures have dropped safely. Once the slide moves back slightly the lugs begin to disengage, the barrel link and pin are engaged to work like a fulcrum to pivot the barrel down as the slide simultaneously travels rearward. When it moved forward the breech face picks up a new round, The barrel snaps back up simultaneously as the link and pin are completing their travel back in position with the lugs in the slide re-engaging the barrel lugs.
I'm convinced that Activision and DICE switched developers for these games .. just so sad seeing how we got from BF3 and BF4 and the amount of detail and work put into everything... the guns, their sounds, vehicles, their sounds, the atmosphere and environments... Destruction.. this makes it look legit like CoD took all the talent from the BF team and traded their own team to work for the new BF game... Legit looks like the 2042 team is the people who worked on the intial version of CoD Modern Warfare through Infinite Warfare... And the new modern warfare looks like the experienced team that took on BF3 and even better BF4. Except they got even better at their jobs xD It looks like DICE have paid a bit more attention in some areas, but this is just a sad showing when you compare it to BF4.. a game released almost 10 or more years ago... didnt have all the MW features of today's gaming expectations, but overall BF4 is just... so much better of a showing than 2042.. sad to see. Please for the love of God... Give us our BF game engineers and designers back Activision
If they had switched developers, CoD would be good right now. Instead they just both suck. All that happened was CoD weirdly got a hard on for putting unnecessary detail into their game and trying to turn their series away from what made CoD fun
@@Freelancer837 yea the way games are recently (ex TLOUS2, The Quarry, 2042, Modern Warfare, just to name a few) it trully is scaring me about the future of gaming
FYI, the tilting isn’t for feeding, it’s part of the delay system to prevent the chamber from opening too early. Most modern 9mm handguns use this, but there are some exceptions like the M9
Check out the latest video - Call of Duty Modern Warfare 3 vs Call of Duty Cold War: Attention-to-Detail Comparison
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The muzzle ring of fire doesn't always happen in real life
it's a little weird to compare CoD to Battlefield because Battlefield matches are so much bigger, you can't as much into it because of hardware limitations.
They still made so much details
@@Ryzot Warzone maps are huge and it's still the same
@Jach Liccroy That's such a poor comparison. CoD is a much larger franchise with a bigger player-base. And they don't even have the same style of game. Battlefield matches are huge games of Ground War, and while CoD usually does have a Ground War mode, it's hardly played because people prefer the smaller TDM or Search n Destroy
I must congratulate with the work behind battlefield, it's awesome and really incredible how they removed all the millions details and features from the previous games , it must have been a really hard work!
lol you got me in the first half.
Who would've thought that stripping everything out and adding in shit nobody wanted would make people hate the game. If they just did Battlefield 4 but moved the timeline up and added more reactivate maps we would love it.
Or in my 35 year old mind. Just do Battlefield 2 again and let us have mod support.
@@Mirokuofnite I personally dont mind BFV. They could have just kept updating that one for all I care. I never wanted this new hot trash
LOL, for real.
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Remember when we said bf was superior than cod in all ways? those were good times
Still better thou
It’s still better since it isn’t the same game every year
@@fuma2980 bf 2042 vs cod 2019 cod will surely win and the last game also bf5 was trash but both games are different categories if you want a bf type category game you'll love bf if youll love cod type category youll love cod
COD is the best selling FPS title and 3rd best selling franchise even after the collective abomination of vanguard. I’m a battlefield fan as well, and I think that both are good in their own way. But after mw2019, cod is truly better than battlefield. MWII will blow bf again.
@@mduggy1396 mw19 was amazing and a fresh breath for the cod franchise, cold war was decent in my opinion but vanguard i did not like at all especially when it was added to wz. but hyped as hell for mwII :)
In case of Dice, most of those old prominent devs are gone after BF1. No wonder why 2042 was lacking way beyond. BF3,4 and 1 are always ahead.
BFBC2, BF3, BF4 and BF1 are the real OGs
We say that BF4 were always ahead now, but BF4 was a big mess up until a year aswell. I mean the launch was extremely bad, i and many friends had many crashes up to a year after launch.
BF4 now is incredible and great, but it had some really bad moments too.
Bf4 had huge bugs, glitches and optimisation issues. But the Dev team doesn’t divert from core fundamentals of a typical Bf game. But the dice team now, changed that in 2042. That’s why bf4 was a massive success even it suffered from issues. Bf2042 abandoned bf formula.
@@PrasathMGM nop, i remember bf4 has a really bad issues, worts in beta against bf2042 beta, bf4 only became a good game with years of updates
@@Torbis i tell people this too when they shit on bf2042, tends to make them go quiet since they realize 2042 wasnt the only terrible launch game dice did lol
The minor details you have give focus to is just…. MIND BLOWING. Love your work and effort you took to make this video.
Thanks 👍
It’s amazing how the smallest things that seem inconsequential like cars bouncing when hopped on or deflating tires etc. can make such a massive difference in the immersion of a game.
They don't, these details have like 0.001% on your total experience with it, of course like you say it makes it more immersive, more believable, but jesus I find it so dumb the millions of people who use this type of videos to judge entirely a game, saying Red Dead 2 is the best game ever because they saw in some RUclips compilation that horses have balls, when meanwhile the game has a game design from 2003 and gives you a game over for even trying to flank a group of ennemies. The stupid useless shit casuals base themselves on to judge the quality of a game is unreal. I can understand appreciating all the littles details the devs took the time to put into the game, but going as far as judging an entire game only on this is something I find so dumb
You'd think but the reality is that they don't. I've played MW/warzone a lot. Barely noticed any of these things. They're pointless.
Most notable imo is the weapon sling. I've never seen something more useless and by extension, detrimental to the experience. Why? Well for starters the asset is still there. There's clearly physics attached to it and there needs to be a more elaborate system in place for things to work that way. Compare that to bf 2042. It does it right. Swap to secondary and your primary despawns. Why is this right? Resources. Optimisation etc.
I'd also like to point out the fact that bf 2042 has 128 players. MW doesn't even come close. Ground war is all it has basically.
Warzone is different in the fact that there's definitely things left out or changed just so they can get 100 player lobbies to work properly.
So in reality it's not really a 1 to 1 comparison.
But yeah, there's so much detail that's just fucking irrelevant in MW. Impressive on the devs for doing that. Ultimately pointless as it doesn't make the game inherently better
@@XenonArcher You literally picked the one thing I noticed that would break immersion for me in previous games that I think actually had a point lmao
@@maybeiamepic2263 what the weapon sling thing?
I mean I'd say the grenades not rolling in 2042 kinda breaks immersion, but it's also a game. Games working exactly like real life isn't always good. I've missed so many guaranteed grenade kills in CoD just by NOT using semtex (though I did get pretty good timing the fuse)
And why do people use semtex? To stick? No, not really. Its cus it lands where you want it to explode and then it fucking explodes and kills the people. Not bounce and end up in a different post code or god forbid back right where it was thrown from :V
@@XenonArcher I don’t think the small details effect optimization all that much. They add to the environment and I think more devs need to try adding them in when possible because in many cases it’s eye-candy and can even add to the experience of the game. I hate to say it but COD has BF2042 beat on that aspect.
Now, I think BF2042 has bigger fish to fry but that’s besides the point.
Battlefield has always historically been the more realistic game, I'm surprised at this. But yeah MW they really upped the realism with how the guns handle. They got actual military personnel to operate them all for reference.
And got the best animator aswell.
@@ufuk5872 Hyper gets all the attention but let's not forget everyone else on the animation team that did an outstanding job.
well u cant compare 2042 to anything above potatograde and for once cod is above potatograde lol
@@trice286 I don't think without him the guns would goes the direction that it did.
@@ufuk5872 khoa lee was the lead animator for mw2019, although i wouldn't be surprised if ranon also had an important role in the team.
The times have definitely changed. I never thought there would be a day when CoD's level of realism and attention to detail would eclipse a Battlefield title (if you could even call that 2042 garbage a Battlefield title to begin with). And I have always been more a Battlefield fan than a CoD fan having played both for more than 15 years. I still remember when people were shitting on MW3's lack of attention to detail when compared to BF3 & BF4, for things like the mags in the trailer and game itself, literally being just a block with no visible bullets remotely visible on it when reloading. Fast forward some 8 - 10 years later and the tables have flipped almost completely. With the new MW2 coming in hot and honestly looks breathtaking, if the next Battlefield title is another flaming heap of garbage like 2042, CoD is gonna mop the floor with the BF franchise and personally I'm for it. Because those current Battlefield devs and anyone from EA who's responsible, need a thorough beat down and a real taste of failure to maybe get them back on the right track. Otherwise, it's been a complete derailment of the Battlefield franchise.
Absolutely!
😂 say what ya want bf3 and bf4 were peak bf. Good days was when mw3 game out with terminal and bf3 came out with high rise condos.
Absolutely agree with you. But don't forget BF1 it was also very good.
Imagine if MW2's Ground War gamemode can out-Battlefield even Battlefield 2042.
Dude I agree completely. I think many of the really good devs from Bf3 and Bf4 are gone at this point, and it’s really sad. I used to talk SO highly of DICE and now it just makes me sad
It's such a shame that BF1 and BF5 had so much attention to detail poured into them and then...
Somehow they missed all of it for 2042
Bf5 was mid BF1 was fucking lit
The team behind both games were fired
@@nickbuckley4371 EA does seem to have a habit of firing or killing off teams/Studios with actual talent while keeping around those who just do what they want.
@@nickbuckley4371 no they quit
@@oldarthurmorgan6319 bf5 was fantastic
As a hardcore BF fan it’s sad to see where the franchise has gone, I’ve always liked CoD but preferred BF but tbh this was the last straw for me man I’m excited to see how good this new CoD will be this year
same im switching to tactical shooters
@@majinbooch3787 Yes, I started playing CS:GO years ago and COD and Battlefield seem so mindless
@@andrewericson8741 true I’ve been playing ready or not but thinking about getting squad or arma for a mature battlefield like experience
You can’t trust a foreign man to do American work
@@Minimania18 I fail to see which part of any BF game has been realistic tho...
This just feels like we're in the worst timeline, I remember decades of praising battlefield for the immersion that cod didn't have and now this. Wow this hits hard.
@Nobody i mean its disappointing because cod releases every year while battle field dosent. they had more time to improve on a game than cod yet the manage to fuck it up even more
@@Legomaster0001 actually bf games have less time to develope
@@sgt3ziz794 oh my bad
@@sgt3ziz794 source?
bro who the fuck cares if you cant hear a shell bounce off a wall in bf2042, or shoot cracks into ice. it does not impact the overall game
The new generation MW added a lot in terms of how weapons feel. A lot of people can’t tell you exactly what makes great sound but they can easily tell you what sounds good and what doesn’t.
With that said, what will always make a classic is how well a game changes the playing grounds. It can’t be a classic if it does exactly what others do.
Ayo, new video anytime soon?
animations, recoil, the punchiness of the weapon sounds. Thats about it that I can't think of
What makes the guns in mw2019 sound so good is that infinity ward actually recorded the sounds that the irl guns make and stuck them in the game, all other games just stick in computer generated gun sounds
@@nicholaspatricks8870 if only cod WW2 did the same
@@ZeroFox0013 they did the same with new cod too
Great video. 2 things to note though. The click sound you’re hearing, in real life is actually the sound of the trigger resetting. It does technically happen when you release the trigger, but the sound is actually caused by the trigger resetting back to the fully unfired position so you can fire again. Secondly, the barrel on a hand gun doesn’t tilt so the rounds can slide into the chamber easier lol.. it’s because that particular gun uses a browning tilting barrel style recoil delay/locking method. So when the slide comes back and the barrel tilts up, it’s actually because the gas pressure has increased enough to unlock the action and cycle the firearm.
Thanks for letting me know
@@Stay_Frosty you’re welcome! Keep up the good work! I watch all your comparison videos! Love em
Just thought of this, but a sweet detail to look for would be games that have say a Glock, but then also have a like a Beretta 92FS (M9) as well. I’d be really impressed if the barrel tilts on the glock and not the beretta. That’d show that they really did their homework
Yeah I was going to comment that the Glock and 1911 both use the Browning tilting barrel. If you watch one of those guns fire in slow motion you'll see the barrel tilting.
@Tyrone Smith yeah.. you can really only do so much to make a trigger good when it’s a polymer framed striker fired gun unfortunately. You can get them a lot better than stock but still not great
Modern warfare 2019 is amazing, can't wait to see the progress made with Modern warfare 2.
Yeah, we have to wait and see the final product. Can't trust trailers from triple A studios. Elden ring was the only exception
Their one chance to encroach on battlefields main selling points.
cod19 is diff top 3 cod and i started playing since cod 5
@@MX009m I agree. The game got so much unnecessary hate. But the dlc maps got better and better and showed that they learned what the community wanted. So I hope mw2 is a more refined version because they know what works and what doesn’t. Can’t wait
@@Frank-eh3jc the reason people hated MW 2019 was because the maps were not traditional style maps (not quite 3 lanes and very open), loud footsteps, ghost always active, and the unsuppressed fire doesn't appear on the mini map as red dot. If at least the footsteps, ghost, and mini map were changed it would have been better received by an even LARGER portion of the community. The MW2 devs said they has learned from MW 2019 so hope that means fixing these things I mentioned.
What i find funny is MW2019 took the best things about previous BFs, realism, amazing sound design and ground zero (huge maps). and they've succeeded
and BF2042 tried copying CoD and failed horribly
@@notrealneverwas same here
@@TheIceBallsGaming they dont want to copy cod xD
@@Unschuldigxr but they literally did
@@TheIceBallsGaming yeah, and the worst ones too
I’m really impressed that the mag release moves. It’s something I never bothered to pay attention to because I would never have thought the developers would care to put something as minor as a mag release moving. Not to mention the sound of the trigger resetting. Amazing
Yeah small details really should not be praised in arena shooters though where the vast majority of the playerbase will never notice. The time and resources spent on that could have been put elsewhere. For CoD that is modeling leg position and for BF that would have been better used modeling one-handed ladder climbs or rolling grenades. Likewise modeling pin deformation for BF and Car suspension and tire deflation could have been spent on weapon slings for the former and ground deformation and mobile vehicle hit markers for the latter.
Point is they both put resourcs where frankly they would have been better placed and more noticed elsewhere.
@@ShiningDarknes
I very much love and appreciate attention to detail myself, especially as I started on games that didn't have the luxury of minute high res details. Key word- luxury.
It's not worth the price if it comes at the expense of gameplay in titles like these. I think the push for higher and higher pixel counts and fidelity make it more noticeable when those details aren't there too, which means more backlash for leaving them out. :(
I think the community myself included at times and marketing from publishers have raised expectations so high the expense and risk of making these games has grown too great to achieve everything we want in a big title.
@@WhatIsSanity Look man all I want is for the damn feet to find their way onto the ground instead of levitate in the air.
@@ShiningDarknes
hahahaha fair enough!
@@ShiningDarknes yeah I agree it’s pretty neat that they added those small details but the resources could have been better utilized to put forth something that would actually matter.
I really believe the lack of a campaign in 2042 caused them to not focus on these small details as much. I’d assume they attempt to make the campaigns as detailed and immersive as possible which is why they would focus on those details and port them over to multiplayer.
It’s so ridiculous how in the map entirely made of ice, they didn’t make any way to make a crack in it lol
The amount of effort that went into maintaining "realism" in MW 2019 was incredible. Almost every weapon modification was based on a real world counterpart. You could turn the M4 into an M16 or an MPX. The M9 could become a 93R, etc. But the most impressive detail, in my opinion, was the new way "slight of hand" functioned.
All of the weapon animations are amazing. Not only are there different animations for empty or combat reloads, but the attachments on the weapon also have an effect on the animations (large scopes, or folded stocks can block non ambidextrous controls, the P90 can't be reloaded while aiming because of the top loaded magazine, etc)
But "SoH" really stood out.
The animation for the regular M4 empty reload, has the PC remove the empty magazine with the left hand, and retaining it, before inserting a full mag, slapping it to ensure it's seated (SPORTS, babyyy) and pulling the charging handle.
Equipping "slight of hand" didn't just increase the speed of the animation. It changed the animation to a more practiced, and efficient reload method. When empty, the PC would instead, grab a fresh magazine with the left hand, press the release letting the empty drop to the ground, insert the new mag, and then press the bolt release, instead of charging the weapon.
Not only was the reload faster, but the weapons ready time was also faster, and the point of aim is more consistent.
The AK reload switches to the over the top, left handed charging method, keeping the rifle shouldered, and the right hand on the trigger.
Every weapon in the game has several animations, for empty or combat reloads, with or without SoH, and dependant of the build of the weapon, and magazine choice.
Cold War has stocks wrapped in duct tape to make you slide faster...
Vanguard has an M1 rifle with a precision laser, advanced FLIR optic, and 30 round box magazine... Just like the one grandpa used...
Can’t forget that every WW2 weapon has a Tommy gun grip, skeletal Tommy gun grip and a skeletal or hell no stock at all!
They should have been separate weapons, you can’t just turn an AKM into an AKS-74u. That was a dumb thing about the gunsmith in my opinion.
@@luger700 it would save time grinding out a brand new gun, but I get your point, it’s a different gun not just attachments. I assume it was made for just making things simpler
@@luger700 they're literally the exact same gun, chambered in different calibers, and with different barrel length.. both are stamped sheet receivers, with the exact same design, with minimal upgrades between the akm and ak74.
@@luger700 if I take an M16, and change the upper, it can be an M4 chambered in .300blk, it can be an mk11, it can be an sr-25. they're the same gun. different iterations. how do you think they developed the ak74 series rifles? they made changes to the akm to improve performance, and versatility.
I used to be a weapons instructor in the military. I feel in love with MW weapon feel almost immediately! Due to my prior experience, I kept found myself going, "Hm, seems right, feels right," which I had never done with games before. Everything felt crisp, and just....right? Probably the only game where I'll choose weapons based on "crispness."
If Modern Warfare impressed you (which it should, it's pretty detailed and accurate, especially for an arcade FPS) and you have a PC, you should try Escape From Tarkov. That game has arguably the most realistic gun sounds, mechanics, attention to detail etc. But be warned, it's not a simple arcade shooter like COD. It won't hold your hand so you'll have to overcome a huge learning curve before you can actually enjoy it lol. But the guns and their mechanics are sooo satisfyingly realistic that you will not be disappointed.
Insurgency samdstorm
@@toxicgracie3772 I wouldn't say realistic, especially the sounds.
@@toxicgracie3772 arcade shooter? wtf bro lol
@@toxicgracie3772 Just gotta purchase a high end PC first. Lolz
Suppressors also turn red hot in CoD, you can see exactly how many rounds are in your mag on some mags by inspecting, there are unique animations for some perks, and there are different muzzle flash and gas animations for the different muzzle attachments
As well there is numbers in the hud of the game, which exist in real life..... 😆 🤣
@@domingofung ok keep saying that bf fan
@@hahabrrrrr4465 bf has numbers too you know lol. Try again
@@domingofung try again like your dad trying to make a new kid since youre a failure?
@@domingofung the fuck,Are you saying that We have HUDs Irl?
It's impressive how MW 2019 still holds up to this day, something really unheard of nowadays in COD.
mf sais to this day to a 2 year old game
what exactly do the other cods not "hold up to?" the animations and sound aren't as good but the new cod has much better gameplay than 2019
the game got shitted on and forgotten by warzone, it’s so sad.
@@bootsie5396 skill issue
@@bootsie5396 Warzone, attention to detail, sounds, guns feeling unique, better gunsmith, original maps with personality, better campaign, better optimization/performance, better camo grind/system, better movement, higher skill gap, less bs aim sway etc.
We lived long enough to see CoD to be considered the more realistic game!
Truly we are in the dark timeline
Why do most game companies always downgrade ? Like holy shit the only thing they fucking care about is graphics and they care about it so much to the point where its required to have a decent setup to play the games properly. And not to mention the amount of fucking cash grabs in the present games
And some of the graphics aren't even good
@@Bananana4320 tru
@@Bananana4320 In Battlefield's case the attention to detail is one of the known things about Battlefield games.
It’s time that people realize that the Frostbite engine just isn’t as cutting edge as it used to be. A lot of studios have caught up and surpassed it since Battlefield 3 came out a decade ago. Battlefield 2042 is proof of Frostbite’s limitations. They abandoned detail for the sake of scale and it clearly didn’t pay off.
Well they slacked off and didn't use its full potential.
I feel that it's not about the engine its about the people working on that engine, the team that worked on previous games are not around anymore and it clearly shows.
Implying that BF1 which also uses Frostbite doesnt look 10x better than BF2042 lol
@@AvieRaptor bf1 still looks better than 2042
frostbite's biggest limitation is how hard it is to use if you are new to the engine.
CoD beating Battlefield is something I never thought I'd see.
bf never beat it in the first place, CoD has always been more popular, from the original mw series to the black ops series. + all the iconic campaigns and zombies.
@@sead6171 I'm sure they are talking about the actual game mechanics not popularity
@Hideous Gamer
BF has more wannabe 'realism' players who sucked too much to play Tarkov, hence why BF exists, an easier game overall.
@@koriander.k7377 makes zero sense
@@kohlplatt5695 Yes, you too casual.
Enjoy playing bugfield 2077
For the saving bullets part, I thought you were going to mention that the Sleight of Hand perk sometimes causes the player to get rid of magazines with ammo in it too.
This really puts things into perspective, and I've always been more of a Battlefield guy even though I've played most CoD's. MW 2019 really nailed it with the visuals and the sound is just so good too. The guns sound punchy and look hefty.
Same, too bad they took some steps backwards on Cold War and Vanguard. With 2042 being the way it is I hope MW2 delivers
@@seanpalmer3982 that mw developers(infinity ward) are different and the engine is only exclusive to them, coldwar and vanguard both different devs. So now everytime infinity ward release a cod game you will get mw engine. Like the upcoming mw2 and probably future mw3
@@AbdurRahim-ep5qv That's not true actually, Vanguard uses the MW19 engine. It was even a selling point they tried to use.
Just goes to show that because you have the same engine it doesn't mean you'll have the same quality. Quality is dependent on the skill and effort the devs put it (and who's directing it of course).
@@whatm8516 yes there is a difference when you own something and use someone elses stuff and try to make it perfect, you cant ever master it never lol, mw had the best realistic sound effect any video game guns had offered, but vanguard was even worse than cw.
Well Infinity Ward all the way
In modern warfare you can also scare birds. Actually can be helpful when trying to find enemies.
Yeah bf has had that for quite some time....bf4
What, are we playing Dead by Daylight?
@@ezokyf i was thinking the same thing lol
@@ezokyf ez calm spirit value
@@Max-js1mx ye lol helps a lot
The barrel tilt isn't there necessarily to help rounds in the chamber, it's part of the delayed blowback system in most modern pistols. Autoloading pistols that shoot 9x19mm parabellum and above power wise require a certain amount of resistance that simple blowback operation can't provide unless you have a really strong spring and a heavy slide, which would make the gun recoil heavy and make pulling the slide back a chore.
It also allows the barrel lugs to lock and unlock to the slide.
🤓 🤓
Im waiting for someone to do a "So Basicly" so I can understand it easier
@@ghostface6947 that must be how u see everyone
@@fireflydies807so basically pull top back is hard, tilt helps (its hard to simplify it)
MW2019 was really CoD's peak for a realistic approach, then they went back downhill
Yup, I am still playing MW2019 because it's quite realistic. I am hoping that one year, they decide to try realistic approach once more.
Modern warfare 2019 will always impress me with the gun sounds animations and handling, the realism blew me away when it came out I didn't expect it to come out as good as it did, when I heard realism before the game came out, I was concerned but after the game launched I have embraced it and want it for future cod games as well. I never get bored playing this game on full volume ❤
Yikes it's not that good Lol
@@Rilez616 Best COD since OG MW.
@@only1dirtymouf lol
@@Rilez616 it is
@Vulcan yikes battlefield is even worse
The barrel tilting up on the pistol at 4:00 is actually due to the locking system of the pistol (Browning tilting barrel). The vast majority of 9mm, 40, 45, and 10mm use this system of barrel lock up. It holds the action of the weapon closed for a fraction of a second so the gun doesn’t unlock too soon. It is necessary on any pistols 9mm and up (with some rare exceptions like hi points, or rotating barrel pistols (Beretta PX4), or gas operated pistols (H&K P7).
or Lugers and C96s!
More proof that the hi point is the best gun ever made #teamproblemsolva
So is it a safety mechanism?
@@rileyflint1619 an important part of a semi automatic pistols design is keeping the slide and barrel together for long enough for the explosion from the cartridge to dissipate. Otherwise you get the action (slide of the handgun in this case) opening pre-maturely and that explosion can split shell cases, shoot fire/unburnt powder out of the ejection port.
For low powered ammunition (generally 380 acp and down from there), the weight of the slide and the strength of the recoil spring are enough to keep the action (slide) closed for safe operation. This is referred to as a straight blowback gun.
Once you hit 9mm and above, the slide and recoil spring are generally not strong enough to keep the action closed for long enough for safe operation, unless you make the spring way stronger and the slide way heavier. Since making the spring way stronger and slide way heavier is impractical as it makes the gun heavier and harder to operate, alternative systems were designed to keep the action closed for that split second longer for the explosion to happen, essentially adding a bit of mechanical resistance into the mix.
That mechanical resistance in handguns is also referred to as “locked breach”. There are several types of mechanical resistance designs. The most popular of which is a John Moses Browning (best gun designer of all time, in many peoples opinion) tilting barrel design. As the gun is fired, the barrel and slide are locked together until a cam tilts the barrel up as you see in the video game animation. That slows down the opening of the action just enough to contain the explosion and make the gun safe to shoot. Rifles also have similar systems that accomplish the same thing (I could go into more detail on rifles bc they are a bit different, but this comment is long enough).
Long story short, it is a safety mechanism. Otherwise you could get burns or worse the gun could batter itself to death or explode in your hands, or a case rupture could occur. Always wear hearing and eye protection when shooting guns of any type.
@@bannedbycommieyoutube5time920 that makes a lot more sense thanks for breaking it down for me man👌
The shooting through walls thing is probably one of the most depressing things about battlefield. Really just the lack of environmental manipulation in general. I feel like bc1 even had a lot more. They significantly dumped down the amount of things you can do that made battlefield so great and unique. That's not even acknowledging ridiculous game play decisions and bugs. I'm looking forward to mw2, I hope they still have groundwar type modes for those of us that finally migrated to cod for a dedicated shooter game.
I remember playing Bad Company 1 and 2 back in the day and being blown away by how I could manipulate and destroy the map as a player. Even Battlefield 3 had that to some extent. With each passing game it just gets less and less and to me the destruction and ability to change the map with player choice was what made Battlefield fun and unique. Yes stuff like blowing up the building in Rush in BC2 to advance the objective was not very balanced, but it was also unique and fun in its own way.
MWII has ground war, and the maps are actually dedicated to the mode instead of being taken from a larger map like in MW19.
To be fair, the jump from bad company 2 to battlefield 3 in regards to enviromental destruction was depression in a literal sense and they still never redemed themselves
@@SolisFactor nice
They made this game when the pandemic was still big
7:40 for mw19 is crazy 💀
The ladder thing in MW seems kinda op. I want to see more people utilize that.
Not even op but useful against those ladder campers.
I’ve used it quite a few times. Nobody expects a Desert Eagle to the face when standing in front of what should be an empty ledge. Very useful against campers on Rammaza.
@Dale Macarenait's in MP and Warzone
Fun fact, if you choose a skin that has a pistol (like the Ghost skin) even if you don't have a pistol equipped in your secondary slot, your character will pull out the pistol on their skin. You only get 1 mag though.
You actually very vulnerable while using the ladder. It's useful for getting the drop on a player though
Mw19 was the only cod game where I would spend some good time solo in a custom lobby just inspecting weapons and getting a better feel of them and the available attachments. The amount of detail is incredible for a cod game. I believe people in this game would use certain guns simply because they liked the “feel” of them even though there would be better weapons for me it was the amax. The gun just felt and looked incredible and my secondary was always the m19 something about it was just so satisfying to use. That being said the incorporation of the gunsmith letting you be able to build the weapons you choose to use it close medium or long quarters gunfights was a genius touch from cod and added so much playability by trying out the wide variety of attachments.
Yeah and being able to pretty much make other real weapons by just gunsmith was incredible. Like the AK-47 could be turned into the 74M or even a AK-100 series as well as RK-74. And being able to make some dmr versions of assault rifle platforms was so amazing.
100% agree. Vast amount of playtime was spent tinkering with all weapons, designing them for various situations and finding new classes to explore with. I truly hope this tradition carries over to future cod titles, along with the otherworldly immersion that MW19 brought along.
Amax not good anymore
@@SkyVals in multiplayer it’s still amazing
@@SkyVals we were just talking about how every gun was that much okay that you could pick your favourite by the feel of the gun. And here you come "BuT AmAX NOt gOOd ANyMoRe"🥴🥴🤡
Another thing: in mw when changing the muzzle to a compensator or flash hider or something else, you can see a difference of the gas pattern coming out of the barrel while shooting.
Also the barrel in mw is rifled. You can see this if you look into an desert eagle for example. 🙃🙃🙃
Barrels are rifled? Wow so thats where 5gb went
@@exa0710 worth it imo
one thing i did was use the muzzle break on the renetti with burst, makes it much easier to see the target
Not only that in the battlefield revolver the fired cartridges have dented primers, the animation clearly shows the character dumping the not fired ammo first into his hand (not losing ammo) and then using the ejector to get rid of the spent cases.
I'm not sure how reliable this would be in an actual revolver - but the detail is based on reality - unfired cartridges should fall more or less freely from the cylinder. At the same time, it is expected that the spent ones will bulge a bit and don't fall freely from the cylinder when tipped, so an ejector has to be used - so the character here uses the difference to save unfired ammo while allowing himself to use speedloader. I love the reload.
Funny how everything else has less detail than MW and here they went overboard.
The weirdest part isn't 2042 lagging behind CoD, it's lagging behind Battlefield games from the past 15 years.
I gotta say, modern warfare 2019 absolutely raised the bar on attention to detail and absolutely stunning animations, I doubt many other studios will put in the effort they did
Its almost like a gun simulator built into a cod game, I cant for mw2, gonna be sat in a custom match inspecting every gun
@@oidowell5940 😂😂
It raised the bar for CoD, not for other games though.
Daniel Gandara none has surpassed battlestate in gun detailing, and its an indie studio.
@@DCGMatthew1 and so far, treyarch and sledgehammer games has failed to keep up
I remember when everybody was at first suspicious of MW19 but it turned out to be the best COD game since BO2.
Except gameplay wise
@@Ryan-GosIing Cope
@@FadazMada You were born after Black Ops 2.
Kiddo.
@@Raul_Menendez I'm older than your dad kid
@@FadazMada which is probably why you think the gameplay of MW19 is good, it’s literally made for campers and bad players.
Never thought I'd see a time when COD has more attention to detail than BF. No wonder the franchise is going to shit. I still remember BF series with BF3 smashing COD's MW3
6:52
So this may seem like a plus for BF, until you realize...
*Flicking the cylinder shut is not recommended, as it could damage the crane*
Hyper, one of the MW animators, actually made an animation joking about flicking the cylinder shut.
ruclips.net/video/GoVMsD97iZY/видео.html
Idk if that’s a detail and more of a style choice tbh
I will forever be impressed by MW 2019. If it hadn't been screwed up by insane file sizes and warzone I would call it the perfect realism shooter.
Sadly I think MW2 this year will have the same issue tbh. Warzone will definitely tie into the game still.
It’s a shame really, I’m spoiled by my PS5 having games with file sizes half the size of those on other platforms or even just the last gen version of the game.
@@GabrielIgnacio Why would warzone be tied, they said that’s not the case.
@@LaggingDuck- they said that with respect to current Warzone - likely because the overall menu containing MW2019 and Cold War and Vanguard is too crowded and is convoluted. I have absolutely no doubt that when Warzone 2.0 releases it will be a required download to be able to play MW2022. Activision uses technicalities like that all of the time so when they do the same shit again they’re technically not lying.
"realism shooter" homie this is a arcade shooter a realism shooter would be Tarkov Arma Squad etc.
I'd bet money that mw2 will be at least 90 to 100 gigs on launch day lol
The barrels of these firearms do not tilt to assist with loading round, though I’m sure it helps. The barrel tilts due to the Browning tilting barrel lockup. When a round is fired, the entire slide shifts rearward about 1/4-1/2” to allow high pressure to equalize. Then the barrel “tilts” to unlock the barrel from the slide so the slide can complete its travel to the rear to eject the spent casing and pick up another round on its forward motion to then lock back up and to be fired again. 😊😃.
Edit: thanks for the upvotes friends. I really appreciate it!
I mean, it does inherently help with feeding in pistols because the feed ramp doesn't reach the magazine until the barrel travels into position as the slide goes rearwards. You are 100% correct, the primary design feature was tilt barrel lockup while the feed ramps were designed as such to account for the travel required to free up the slide.
the M1911 did this right?
@@catf4077 yep! it was one of the first to do it and nowadays, almost every pistol design has that Browning tilting action included! it's pretty amazing how well John Browning designed guns that we're still using his designs and his guns even to this day over 110 years ago! 😁👌🏻
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It's so sad how trash battlefield has become... battlefield used to blow cod out of the water in just about every aspect but that's definitely not the case anymore these days. Sad times
2042 ruined that lead.
@Aveteran Player nah. Atleast that game wasnt that much of a downgrade compared to 20-42 fps. 2042 is just next level shit
@Aveteran Player No. BFV’s was superior to even 1 in terms of small details, animations, graphics etc… BFV was criticized for things like the customization but in terms of mechanics it’s incredible.
BFV beats The shit out of any cod in comparisons, you should watch some. It even Beats 1.
@Aveteran Player ruclips.net/video/7En7wvfIy_M/видео.html everyone in the comments is saying that MW doesn’t even come close to BFV now so trashing on what you don’t know.
@Aveteran Player actually yes, but not because of the theme, but EA’s « awakening » made me boycotting it. It was no longer Battlefield, but Inclusionfield and it ruined it as they went further from Arma and closer to Fortnite.
You can really tell the MW dev team got some quality trigger time and actually took the time to learn how the guns they put into the game actually work.
Meanwhile, the BF2042 team looks like they only had a passing familiarity with firearms.
this was one of my top reasons that stopped me from playing warzone after CW integration, CW and Vanguard were really way behind MW19 dev team in almost every aspect, i hope MW2 has the same feel of MW19 or better.
Not only that but they had gun RUclipsrs like T.Rex Arms help them with animations.
@@iiFuture I played through the campaign, and afterwards thought about it, the reload animations felt SO familiar......true as nuts, there was his name in the credits. Can't escape the Robotkin.
@@MX009m I still use MW guns from time to time. Most MW guns feel super crisp while some Vanguard guns feel like I am shooting water despite being much stronger. Their agency is to change the gun balance to sell their games and 30$ skins, that is why VG guns are buffed while MW guns are literally made unplayable.
@@SkynetGeneral yeah, the vantard weapons have next to no recoil (can't remember the name but there's this assault rifle that doesn't move at all and fires at the same rate as the MP5).
I'm such a battlefield mark.
3&4 were superb.
The gritty details of the area you were in were perfect.
2042 just looks clean and well like a game.
No realism.
Cod absolutely stole their crown with MW19..
And MW2 campaign looks stunning...
No lmao MW9 was beaten by BFV ruclips.net/video/7En7wvfIy_M/видео.html
Thèse 2 released closer together than 2042
It's like 2042 was created by AI. It's off on so many levels. It's a clean and sterilized imitation of a Battlefield game, with Specialists added because the AI knows how much human gamers love Specialists.
Can't leave out Bad Company 2 aswell. It was the Battlefield that introduced me to the series and omg was it so good 😊 And honestly, as goofy as Hardline was, it was still a solid game. I had a TON of fun with it personally, even if it wasn't the prototypical Battlefield. Also BF1 was very solid. BFV is where things started to go downhill and now BF2042 is at the bottom of that hill lol
@@Reginald_Harrison spot on mate...
well ive not even played the new map on 2042 yet. might have a look see whats up..
we can only hope..
@@Reginald_Harrison 2042 being put together by mostly AI makes too much sense lmao.
The game's art direction is all over the place, feeling like random assets from different artists with different styles being thrown together with lighting that does not fit with anything, like ain't no way an AAA dev team run by humans can be THAT dumb.
Stuff like Anthem which was basically one of the worst thing ever atleast had good art direction and stayed consistent in terms of visuals
What a legend only one ad in the beginning . Your so damn underrated
It's strange how a Call of Duty game from 2019 managed to be more innovative with it's details than a Battlefield game from 2021, even though Battlefield always had a reputation for having small little details that Call of Duty doesn't have. Honestly the more I look at Battlefield 2042 the more I appreciate Battlefield 5's little details more because even if the game didn't have that good of a marketing or had a solid launch, DICE did still have some creative thought put into it and managed to give us a game that wasn't as terrible as we told it was back when it released.
You say that as if because it came out 2 years later they should be more capable of adding details ?
@@Rilez616 looking at what your competitors are doing and improving or expanding on that should be a no brainer, especially if your IP has a reputation for being more detailed.
And not to mention MW came out on older consoles than BF 2042
I wish dice wasn't completely fucking stupid with the marketing. I personally don't care they showed a woman (shocker i know) with a prosthetic. However when you go on rants about inclusivity then we have a problem. The reason you put the woman there is tokenism. They could have it be like Wolfenstein where it's an alternate universe WW2 and i don't think there would've been much backlash.
Yes but a Battlefield from 2017 had better details than both me 2019 and Battlefield 2042, same with Battlefield V
BF2042 runs and feels like an early access game made by a bunch of college students for a class project. BF1 and BFV felt miles ahead of what BF4 and Hardline felt, BF2042 was ten thousand steps back. The Only thing that can save BF2042 is Portal, remaking all of BF3 will make BF2042 worth it.
No it won’t, the engine feels like garbage, no amount of remade content will fix the horrible gameplay
BF1 not that good, sorry. Gunplay is simply awful
Nothing can save this crap, main team is working on new BF, 2042 have a small team to push small content, sorry but all ppl whi purchased this crap been fooled. Again after BF5.
People said "the only thing that will save this game is Portal" months ago when the game came out. The game was not saved, and won't ever be. I think people need to accept that.
@@azazel673 Nah BF1 was solid, different, but solid.
Not just the animations but the Shockwave from the gun firing, the sounds, the bullets hitting the wall, the smallest details, are what really made mw2019 for me, infinity ward really killed it this time, and I'm so beyond excited for mw2 to see what they bring to the table, I enjoyed mw 2019 alot more than I'd like to admit, hopefully mw2 delivers,
If mw2 2022 Become a Success (beside Ppl Will Find a Way To complain Cause its a Cod game)..Than Cod Should stay as Modern era Military game..That's really suits better with Cod now cause ww2 Fps games are milked afs
Jdm gang
Would you say that it did deliver?
@@thecarsavant nop
@@thecarsavant it's like MW19, b u t w o r s e
1:04 Weird to see modern games missing features from ones made 20+ years ago (Rainbow Six 3 Ravenshield says hello)
who knew a game from 2019 would be better than a game who was released I 2021 also the "empty" mag in bf 2042 still had bullets in it even though it was supposed to be a empty mag
And a BF game from 2018 is better than COD 2019 ruclips.net/video/7En7wvfIy_M/видео.html
The weapon handling in MW2019 is the best that is and has ever been done, so far. It doesn't feel too animated and the way the weapons recoil leads me to believe that they did high-frame motion capture of professional shooters to understand how a weapon reacts to having been fired.
But the recoil is so not realistic!
@@biopower5160 on the contrary, it seems about right, having shot my fair share of rifles, sidearms and shotguns I can safely say I see nothing too off about it.
As far as I know, all the animations in MW are hand crafted, which is very impressive, considering the quality.
Yeah I was so pleasantly surprised when I first saw it, no more weirdly fluid COD reloads, another game that does it well is Insurgency Sandstorm
*sensitivity 1000 player enters chat*
in mw the mags actually contain real bullets. you can see this with the makarov (sykov) really well as the inspect shows the mag and the bullets can be seen inside. when you shoot a bullet the mag actually begins to empty
until you relaod it and it magically fills
@@EzMatt90 what do you mean ?
@@Cockalicious Possibly a reference to older animations.
_Where they take the same Mag out of view, then just reinsert it._
@@Cockalicious well in real life or even more realistic games like arma, each magazine is a separate count of bullets. so if you reload before the magazine is empty, then that magazine stays having that many bullets in it. so if you load that magazine back in later on it might only be half full. makes you think twice before reloading a mag that isnt empty.
And the m4a1
your style is so unique, i’m always thrilled by your videos!
MW2019 is still ahead of any other Cod or even most shooters in my book
Bf1, Mw2019, Mw2 best console shooters ever
Anyone who disagrees, 1v1 me in Microsoft flight simulator
@@Me-Dwight I don't disagree, but i wanna 1v1 you in MFS
Nice joke
@@slayed9602 how
@@Me-Dwight idk if i can call mw2019 the best if the maps are the bane of my existence
I never thought I’d see the day when COD pays closer attention time to detailing than BF.
I cannot believe that you can’t shoot through walls yet in BF
The Craters in BF are impressive
Sad how we go from the amazing BF 1 to BF 2042
Wich one do you prefer?
@@TheManWhoErasedHisNane amazing was BF4, 2042 is just a shameless cash grab that I noticed before buying.
If people can shoot through walls than what's the point for cover? At lest if the wall broke so I can see I'm being shot through the wall.
Well, in previous BF titles, you were able to shoot through thin walls. I don't know if all walls are impenetrable on 2042 though since I barely played it.
It's weird how battlefield chose to put their effort unto doing the most unnoticeable or unwanted extra details like the revolver mark instead of the actual details like grenades rolling and the door peeks
You can’t peek doors in 2042
@@gabrielhowes4702 yes that's what they said
Not to defend them, but the primer marks are purely aesthetic while rolling grenades and peeking doors affect gameplay. They could be design decisions, intentionally not coding those features in because they thought they negatively affected gameplay. Who knows... but they are more than just details.
Like 2 minutes in and you've solved the issues I was having. I didn't realize that box for showing what was going on was there, I didn'tvidIQ badge
This is probably the first CoD ever to out detailed the graphic giants of DICE.
And Infinity Ward hired probably the BEST firearm animator on the planet.
He even does meme gun animations on his RUclips channel
They also hired the second best firearm animator on the planet. They have both Hyper and MrBrightside now. MrBrightside did all the weapon animations for Insurgency Sandstorm. The two are best friends and use to stream them animating weapons back in the day. Awesome to see them working together now.
and also this is the first time that DICE didn't even tried. This is not the DICE we used know of.
@@SeaGLGaming thats a pretty neat story
@@ariaseraj4005 sad,but true
Maybe if my BF2042 didn't run at 30 fps maybe I would have liked it more...
Overall bf2042 was a huge dissapointment for the whole battlefield franchise. Hope that they make a better game after this one, since bf2042 is beyond saving at this point.
@Roy Dunno man, after all happened I don't think that they will make the game so good that it will have the amount of players it had at launch again.
The recent updates has rly improved the game tho, I too felt so disappointed with the state of the game’s release but the recent updates has gave me a reason albeit a small slither of hope that bf2042 will become a good game, its just taking too much time to get there😂
Just like hope that they make a better game after bfv right ? BF won't be better anymore it only will be worse.
Not to battlefield but to shooters in general this game was suppose to resurrect shooters again especially since all 3 games were coming out in the same year turns out vanguard was just a boring copy and paste only made for warzone like Cold War, halo being good but super dry and empty and battlefield just being such a buggy mess that missed out on a lot of things from battlefield along with changes no one wanted besides from player count and map size everyone asked for it and now we regret it
@@pp-xz7rx BF5 was an absolute blast for me and in terms of gunplay and movement it was better than the previous title even though the atmosphere and ambiance picked with BF1 imo. Also, BF5 could go under a large level of destruction and the details they showed were very impressive.
COD MW 2019 is a true masterpiece. Not only with high level of details but also a smooth gameplay.
Conclusion:
MW can´t be compared to 2042 (I know I´m missing a world, but this game just doesn´t deserve "Battlefield")
Awesome comparsion!
we can all agree cod mw 2019 is actually a really good game that clearly had a lot of love put into it
The actual best cod
My favourite besides BO2 and MW2.
The game sucks.
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@@andrew9042 People only like MW2019 because of his graphics and animations.
Another detail MW has is that different kinds of bullets sound different when the bullets hit the floor or wall after being fired. Ex. a 9mm will sound different hitting the floor than the sound of a 7.62 hitting the floor
Funny that they even know the difference in caliber these days. They used to call 5.45×39mm weapons submachine guns. Even fucked up the name of that specific weapon to this day.
@@Evokyr what’s the weapon
Though I never played either, this video's an interesting case of what makes games more immersive. Both games have high fidelity models and shaders, but there is that certain something that comes with the world behaving in a believable way. Not necessarily realistic, but believable.
They definitely studied how their guns behave. My main gripe with BF2042 from what I've seen in this video is the temporal anti-aliasing that almost gives it a ghost effect sometimes.
What's cool about most of these animations and effects is they'd still work well even with much lower fidelity.
As someone with over 300 hours in MW in the last year and 8 hours in BF2042, I’ve got to say whilst BF is a lot of fun, MW makes you feel *in* the game, which BF fails to do. The guns feel cartoonish in BF but in MW the feel like a genuine firearm, making it more immersive and overall a more enjoyable game
@@SovietAirCon goddamn bro 300 hours?
@@SovietAirCon For me MW 2 was pinecal of shooter games, yeah black ops 1 was fun and good but certainly not on that lvl
just saying there are Glock pistols that arent tilting barrel, though this is most likely an oversight
I remember when I was proud of Battlefield for having so much great attention to detail in its weapons and maps.
@4:00 The tipping action of the barrel is not done to help rounds slide into the chamber easier. It's actually the unlocking of the action, the barrel has to move out of the way so the slide can move backwards to eject the spent casing and load the next round in the magazine. Still, that's a nice detail they added in MW, much more realistic than BF 2042.
He also compared 2 different guns, but the battlefield Glock barrel should do that too
Not all guns have the barrel tilt including the Glock
@@DavisAllison True, but are you saying the Glock doesn't have a tilting barrel? Because with the exception of the G44, they all do.
Yea I was hoping they would show the M9 or something which doesn’t have a tilting barrel
The ever popular Browning tilting barrel locking action.
6:45 In BF2042, the soldier also saves the two unfired bullets, dumping them into his palm first, then dumping the shot rounds.
I always like seeing that in games with revolvers.
3:58 is a bad comparison they are different guns.
not all Glock pistols point upwards when the magazine is emptied. This behavior is dependent on the specific model and the individual firearm's design.
Some Glock models, such as the Glock 17, do have a tendency to point upwards when the magazine is emptied. This is due to the design of the magazine follower and the angle at which it pushes the slide stop lever when the last round is fired.
However, other Glock models, such as the Glock 19, do not exhibit this behavior and may instead simply lock the slide open without pointing upwards.
it literally says on the side of the glock in battlefield it is the 19 model which does not tilt upwards.
6:57 Cod just knows nobody is using a revolver
The tilting barrel is because the lockup system on those pistols is a tilting barrel system. Doesn’t have much to do with rounds getting into the chamber easier.
4:00 its not tilted for rounds to slide into the chamber, it has a feed ramp for that. It is tilted bc when the barrel is horizontal it is locked into the slide, & it must tilt down to unlock so the slide can retract during cycling.
Remember when BF1 came out and everybody was surprised by the details? Yeah...
Remember when Battlefield was the king of environmental details in first-person shooters? Modern Warfare I and II stole that crown and will never let go of it.
The pistol barrel tilting isn't anything to do with getting rounds in more easily, it's because the barrel tilts to unlock the slide during each cycle (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recoil_operation). Not all pistols work like this, e.g. the Beretta 92 / M9 and they feed just fine.
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i thought it was to align the barrel with the iron sights
*Browning Tilting Barrel* mechanism
2:01 this feature was in mw 2 (2009) and in battlefield 2042, this is no where to be seen.
Note that frags tend to role on sloped surfaces, so think twice when throwing one uphill -sgt foley
Tilting barrel is not for rounds to slide easier into the chamber. It's a way to delay the backwards movement of a slide. If there wasn't delay, the slide would be impacting with too much of force. Manufacturers get around it by either making slide bulkier and heavier (e.g. hi-point pistols), tilting barrel (most common among pistols), rotating barrel (e.g. some berettas or grand power) and few other methods that are not that common.
It's a small nitpick but the barrel on pistols doesn't tilt to help feeding. The barrel tilt is what allows it to unlock from the slide as it reciprocates so the gun can function. Most handguns use this Browning tilting barrel design, but not all. The m9 for example uses a fixed barrel design where it does not move at all.
Edit: I was wrong, the M9 uses a falling block action. Still different than the tilting barrel in that it only moves front to back but it is not fixed.
Yeah that was the only point to where I was like "You had no idea why and just made this up didn't you?" lmao
Or the russian makarov just does it because why not
I wouldn’t say the barrel is fixed on the m9. It does move, but it also does not use the typical browning tilt.
The fact that most guns have a locking or delaying mechanism is not very known unless you really looked into how guns function. Like most people that are into racing game have no idea what's the difference in certain engines or how they work.
Small nitpick but the M9’s barrel is not fixed.
I was a BF fan since BF2. BF4 is my favorite FPS game. When MW2019 came out, I had a hard time deciding if BF was my favorite franchise. I was so hyped with BF2042 coming out, since they set the standard for excellence, however it was such a disappointment. The team at IW REALLY stepped it up with MW2019 and especially Warzone. Now, Warzone is the better of the two, but I'm not fond of Caldera. Verdansk is pinnacle of how to make a modern FPS BR map.
I hope with MW2, they make the same type of map. COD has surpassed BF now! I think we need to give developers more time to make the game that we want instead of this stupid new game every year. I bet it took IW 2 or 3 years to make Verdansk.
People have been saying CoD needs a longer dev cycle for years but Activision loves getting their yearly CoD paycheck and doesn’t care about the quality of the games.
MW had some love put into it for sure but Cold War and Vanguard are so boring and have so many bugs.
It’s a shame, the devs could make some amazing games if they had more time to work on each game. People like to blame the devs but they are under the iron fist of Activision and have shitty work conditions and lots of crunch time to meet Activisions demands.
Verdansk is the pinnacle of poor BR design
@@yottachad5245 lol na i hate caldera. verdansk had camping problems but still is the better map just my opinion
@@reallyscaryrob2429 Worth to note that techically COD isn't developed in a year, the yearly releases rotate between 3 studios (Treyarch [Black ops], IW [Modern Warfare], and Sledgehammer [Generally World War games]) so technically each cod is developed in 3 years (although realistically 2 since they also support the game for around a year after they release)
@Señor Quack If your looking at it from a multiplayer standpoint and think CW is better than MW you are deluded
Battlefield games usually are some of the best when it comes to attention to detail. But this one they couldn't even finish gameplay wise, so it's no surprise theres barely any attention to detail.
@QUAD849 wdym by style?
Like the theme of the war the game use or what?
The tilting barrel is part of the locking mechanism. It's not to "help bullets slide into the chamber".
It needs to be said about the revolver reloads: in 2042, the spent shells don’t fall out without hitting the plunger while the unfired rounds fall out easily. This is completely accurate as the casings from fired rounds will expand inside the chamber and not fall out on their own. Regardless of everything else, I find this quite impressive!
I feel like one of the main staples of the bf franchise was the use of craters, most other fps games never had destructible landscapes like battlefield
Correct. When the first Battlefield came out, that was the 'big deal'. Destructible environments.
IMO MW 2019 is one of the best cods. Definitely can’t beat the nostalgia of the original modern warfares. But the engine and gunsmith and all that make MW 2019 such an amazing game.
That's why everyone cant wait for modern warfare 2!!
Its one of my all time favs but the spec ops launch was horrendous, even if its fine now, and most maps, while good on SnD, dont flow well for traditional multiplayer
It’s cool to see these kinds of details, but most of them are so incredibly insignificant. Though still small, the most immersion breaking ones by far were the lack of craters and faulty leg position in MW. Craters seem kinda difficult to pull off but the leg positioning is something that’s been figured out for well over 10 years. Overall I wouldn’t fault the developers for missing details in either, but it does seem weird that the MW team nailed so many small details but missed 2 of the biggest ones.
Speaking as someone who hasn’t played a shooter in years and pretty much only stuck to Halo/Destiny before that, I have no dog in this fight.
Barrel tilt isn't for easier chambering of the next round. It's a blowback delay mechanism; prevents the action unlocking until chamber pressure drops to a safe level.
came to say exactly this
thank you
it's not a blowback delay mechanism either, it locks the chamber closed until the bullet has exited the barrel
@@Vanya2893 that is what delayed blowback is
Bit of both actually.
6:07 It actually doesnt have the feature in 2042. But when you aim the gun and open a door to " peek " It will open slower. Thus giveing the ability to " peek "
Another thing that bugged me about BF2042 (at least the last time I played). When switching ammo types, the mags barely change and the casings coming out of the gun aren't the right type for the ammo. Also, the gun sounds don't change either. MW 2019 had all that detail!
10:43 fun fact, soldiers keep both eyes opened when they shoot because they need to see the surrounding. The only exeption is with snipers.
The amount of attention to detail that mw2019 has is incredible
Fun fact about shooting with both eyes open, while this is definitely the norm now, mostly with the U.S. military’s use of the trigicon acog and now with the VCOG depending on magnification, there are some exceptions such as myself. Shooters who are right handed but left eye dominant (and vice versa) are actually recommended to close that dominant eye because it messes with your ability to acquire both the reticle and target at the same time. Issues such as being unable to have your eye focus on the reticle come up. For me, some I would even see two reticles since I was looking through the sight with my non dominant eye.
Yeah I am the same so I was wondering why that would be taught because when I do it 2 redicles show up, must not for people with normal eyes. I'm not in the military if that was implied.
@@Muricaguy if you can reliably aim with both eyes open, it gives you the advantage of environmental awareness.
I don't shoot often, but I am right handed and close my left eye. Is this normal?
@@bren.nan_ nope, youll hit left everytime
The tilting barrel is a locked breech system designed by the late and great Mr. J.M. Browning. Also called “tilting breech” is where the barrel and the slide both have locking lugs which seal the gasses then begin to unlock when pressures have dropped safely. Once the slide moves back slightly the lugs begin to disengage, the barrel link and pin are engaged to work like a fulcrum to pivot the barrel down as the slide simultaneously travels rearward. When it moved forward the breech face picks up a new round, The barrel snaps back up simultaneously as the link and pin are completing their travel back in position with the lugs in the slide re-engaging the barrel lugs.
0:16 I've noticed that 2042 has trigger discipline, when your character isn't firing, they will take their finger off the trigger.
I'm convinced that Activision and DICE switched developers for these games .. just so sad seeing how we got from BF3 and BF4 and the amount of detail and work put into everything... the guns, their sounds, vehicles, their sounds, the atmosphere and environments... Destruction.. this makes it look legit like CoD took all the talent from the BF team and traded their own team to work for the new BF game...
Legit looks like the 2042 team is the people who worked on the intial version of CoD Modern Warfare through Infinite Warfare... And the new modern warfare looks like the experienced team that took on BF3 and even better BF4. Except they got even better at their jobs xD
It looks like DICE have paid a bit more attention in some areas, but this is just a sad showing when you compare it to BF4.. a game released almost 10 or more years ago... didnt have all the MW features of today's gaming expectations, but overall BF4 is just... so much better of a showing than 2042.. sad to see. Please for the love of God... Give us our BF game engineers and designers back Activision
After thinking about it yeah, maybe that’s true
If they had switched developers, CoD would be good right now. Instead they just both suck. All that happened was CoD weirdly got a hard on for putting unnecessary detail into their game and trying to turn their series away from what made CoD fun
@@Freelancer837 yea the way games are recently (ex TLOUS2, The Quarry, 2042, Modern Warfare, just to name a few) it trully is scaring me about the future of gaming
man its crazy how much better a game that came out in 2019 looks compared to one that came out in 2042
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FYI, the tilting isn’t for feeding, it’s part of the delay system to prevent the chamber from opening too early. Most modern 9mm handguns use this, but there are some exceptions like the M9