Pete Rose On Hitting
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- You should be hitting like Pete Rose. Scratch that. Let me be more specific.
You should be competing in the box, swinging with intent to do damage while focusing on spraying the entire field with hard-line drives and protecting the plate with two strikes, grinding out each at-bat like a bulldog, and doing whatever it takes to get on base, like Pete Rose.
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I really don't understand how people say Rose wasn't a great hitter. You see players playing half the time he did and they fall below .300 and Pete "hung on" way past his prime i hear and look at his stats .303 average for all the years he played, ok maybe batting average isn't thought of the way it used to be but totally a testament of durability in every way and playing the game like it should be played. Off the field crap fine say whatever but between the lines his numbers play day in day out. Hall of Famer. Period.
people actually say Pete Rose wasn't a great hitter? What the heck! Well, I guess I believe it.
I heard a guy just the other day tell me that Greg Maddux couldn't make a major league roster today...
This odd attitude that everyone who played 20+ years ago were basically plumbers is mind numbing.
@thomasgassert7673 What? Who's saying he wasn't a great hitter? He's the best hitter of all time.
Pete did more with less god given ability than any athlete ever ! He literally WILLED himself to be a great player. He was also smart enough to know that trying to hit the long ball wasn't gonna make him great ( not that he couldn't have been a power hitter, you don't hit 795 career Doubles without have "some" pop ) and he set out to become the first $100,000 a year singles hitter. He just did whatever it took to win..as evidenced by his greatest record....he played on the winning side in 1,975 games. ! More than ANY athlete in ANY sport ! And that's what it's REALLY all about isn't it ?
To illustrate that point, I don't think a lot of people are aware of this. If it weren't for Pete Rose the 2nd edition ( 1975, 1976 World Champion ) of "The Big Red Machine' may not have ever happened.
Early in the 1975 season the Reds were having problems scoring runs. The problem was they had an aging 3rd Baseman ( Denis Menke ) who was no longer a big threat at the plate. They also had a young Outfielder named George Foster who was relegated to Pinch - Hitting because he had Griffey, Geronimo and Pete Rose in the Outfield. Pete Rose went to Manager Sparky Anderson and told him "Look Skip, we gotta get George's bat in the lineup..play me at 3rd ! I'll take extra infield, whatever it takes,,,but we gotta have George's bat in the line - up !" Sparky said "Ok !" and the rest is history.
Now, I want you to think about that. How of todays players of Rose caliber ( at the time Multiple Batting titles, probably at least a 10 time All - Star ) would go to the Manager and VOLUNTEER to switch positions ? Not many ! Not only that but Pete switched positions MANY times to help the team. He is the ONLY Major Leaguer to play at least 500 games at 5 different positions !
I’m glad somebody else knows that. He moved around a lot to help the team. And he did say that to Sparky. There’s a lot of haters but even the big fans don’t realize all of everything that you just said is very true. And Sparky was one of the greats. I think it’s great that you acknowledge and know your homework like that. It’s nice to hear compared to people that just talk and don’t know anything.
@@tyreezy1414 Thanks...Pete was who I modeled my game after. When I was a kid, I wasn't big, wasn't strong and I wasn't fast...but the one thing I could do that he did was go all out, all the time ! I was consumed to do everything I could to become a better athlete / player. I read everything I could on baseball, football, basketball and how to train for each sport...i bought a copy of Ted Williams "The Science of Hitting". I couldn't tell you how often I read it. Anyway, at 15, I was 4' 11" and weighed 150 lbs., then I got my growth spurt, by the time I was 17, I was 6' 3" and 165 ( with hard work I eventually got up to 225 lbs. )...and although I never reached the majors...I became a good enough athlete / player to end up with a partial baseball, partial football scholarship to a Div. II school and played on a 2 time NCAA Championship Football team, and I was a good enough Baseball player to be asked to 2 Reds tryout camps...before suffering a severe shoulder injury that pretty much ended any pro sports dreams. So, that's why I know so much about Pete. People can think what they want about him....but I know if not for my being inspired by him I would have never played past HS ball.
That’s really awesome. My dad and I were both late bloomers as well. But I was a catcher and I was in high school and freshman year I was 5’5” skinny as a twig. Next thing I know the bases got longer fields got bigger. And the kids all got bigger and I got discouraged because I couldn’t make the same throw down to second base like I used to so I was playing basketball too and I kind of just fell in love with that and like you when I graduated, I graduated at 6’3”. Went on to play two years at GCC. (Glendale community college) and then I was still growing till I got to 6’5” but I was still on the skinnier side. Maybe 195. So after that I trained for three years and I got my shot to play overseas for a Chinese team called the Guangdong Tigers so I played with them over the summer in 2010. And then my girlfriend got pregnant so we decided to move from LA to Vegas where my dad lives. So we moved and got married here in 2011. But I had a blast playing basketball. If I would’ve known I would’ve hit that growth spurt like you did I would’ve kept playing baseball because my dad played and taught me how to play and that’s all I did but I just was drawn to basketball. My dad’s dad was a great football player in back in those days it was like equal to a semi pro league for the Bengals at that time but my dad always said how good he was. I never got to meet him but it was him who taught my dad how to play and be aggressive and molded him to be the player that shortly after became known as the Cincinnati kid. Also my brother played for a very short time in the big leagues. Now I’m like my brother only coaching my son and on his travel team. And he wants to be like his grandpa. And he’s aggressive. I had natural talent you know where you feel like you dominate on the court but you only give 70%. I didn’t have the aggressive gene that my dad had and that my son has . My dad had to work hard to make up for not being the strongest or the fastest. But by Bustin his ass he became what people know him as now, Charlie Hustle. But his one record that he is most proud of is one stat that you already know but you left it out. And it means the most to him. It’s not the hits it’s not the All-Star games. It’s not the total bases by switch hitter. Not the record for most 5 hit games. But it’s the most important because it’s why you play the game. It’s most career winning games 1,972 by any player in any sport. Sure he’s the hit King but he takes more pride in being the biggest winner in the history of sports. But he couldn’t of done it without Jonny, Joe, Tony, Davie, Cesar, Foster and Griffey. I guess you should win the most games if you have the greatest second baseman, the greatest all-around catcher and greatest third baseman Schmidt in Philly as teammates. But anyway yeah I moved to LA when I was 10. I’m from Cincinnati. My name is Tyler and I appreciate all the nice things you said about my dad. I don’t usually even type anything or comment but I was watching that video with my son because he likes to watch his grandpa play and we read what you wrote and I was like, finally somebody who isn’t talking out of their ass. So thank you for being a baseball fan and respecting the way the game should be played. It’s too bad Baseball isn’t the same anymore. But look out for my nephew Pete Rose III and my son Julian Rose. JuJu won’t be ready for bigs for about another 10 years. He’s still a kid. But he’s got it. It’s in the bloodline. 🙂
@@tyreezy1414 Wow, I'm honored to converse with you. I remember when you were born ! You were born in Philly right ? I lived in Vegas as well for a few years in the early 1990's. But, I met your Dad a couple times and he was so different than so many people portrayed him. I don't know if you remember this ( you were probably a kid at the time ) but your Dad owned ( along with Buddy LaRosa ) the boxing contract of a Heavyweight called "Rocky" Ray ( his real name was Paul ) Phillips and Rocky was a good friend of mine and knew I was a HUGE fan of Pete's. Anyway, Rocky calls me one night and says "Hey, I'm having dinner with Pete tonight at "Sorrentos" in Norwood...you wanna go ?" I was like "HELL YES !"
Anyway, I'm a bit of a baseball historian...and your Dad and I talked Baseball for 2 hours or more. His memory is unreal...I remember him telling me about getting his first hit off Bob Friend ( I think ) he recounted the inning, the count, the pitch...it was amazing ! But here's how I REALLY knew how good his memory was. Years later I'm in Florida and I'm looking for a place to have lunch and I see "Pete Rose" restaurant....so I go in, sit down, Pete walks past me, stops, comes over and says "Wait a minute ! I know you...I don't remember your name but you're from Cincy..you're Paul's ( Rocky Ray ) buddy..we had dinner at "Sorrentos" ! I was blown away. So anyway, I didn't realize it but I was sitting in front of his radio studio where he did a show...and Pete said "Hey, I gotta do my radio show...but hang out and we'll talk baseball !" I said "Ok....hey Pete, what's the best thing on the menu ? " He said "Get the wings...they're great !" so I get my wings and I'm destroying them and I hear a tap on the booth behind me...I look up and Pete's holding up a placard that reads "Sure beats the hell out of "Willie's" don't it !" LMAO !
But yeah, I told him then he was an inspiration to me...but let him know again that Paul "Rocky Ray's" buddy Keith ( by the way, "Rocky Ray died of a heart attack several years ago at 52...sad. He was a great guy, loyal as a Pit Bull if he was your friend ! ) said He will always be an inspiration to any kid that was told "You can't do it, you're too small, too slow !" And the fact that he is not in the HOF...makes the HOF a JOKE in my opinion !
But you're 100% correct...knowing the type of player he was...winning was all that mattered...and I'm sure he'd trade a lot of his records for a couple more WS rings ! But as I said...the WINNINGEST ATHLETE OF ALL TIME....how can you top that ? And the other thing about Pete...if you ever saw him play...he never cheated the fans...he knew ONE speed, all out, all the time! Didn't matter if the Reds were up 10, down 10 or tied...he was still gonna bust his ass. And people wanna know how he got 4,256 hits ? Because he never took an AB off...if he had 4 hits, he wanted 5, if he had 5, he wanted 6 ! And to me, the biggest hypocrisy is the same organization... MLB...that is keeping him out of the HOF is now PARTNERED with SPORTSBOOKS ??? And personally, I don't think it's coincidental that the rise of "questionable" calls and horrible officiating in ALL sports...seemed to begin as soon as all the leagues partnered with Sportsbooks !
Anyway, it was great chatting with you...feel fre to hit me up to talk sports anytime...and I'll be on the lookout for those Rose kids !
@@tyreezy1414 By the way, you know who else was a "late - bloomer" from Newport ? Basketball Hall of Famer Dave Cowens. He graduated from Newport Central Catholic as a 6' 2" shooting Guard...and 4 years later graduated as a 6'9" Center from Florida State !
Great stuff. I hope you don't mind but I'm use this tonight in a 12-14u hitting class! Final night of instruction, I think this is a perfect ending to a mechanics based hitting class.
Go for it!
Pete Rose, absolutely 👌 awesome!!
Thats an A hole!
Pete Rose was tied for 137th in career batting average with Al Oliver and Will Clark. Tony Gwynn, Wade Boggs and Rod Carew were the best hitters in the modern era.
Yes ! Well done !
Appreciate it.
@@appliedvisionbaseball Joke!
Put that man in the HOF and be done with it..he's top 5 goat hands down
He's really not. Ted Williams, Stan Musial, Willie Mays, Hank Aaron, Frank Robinson. For starters. But Pete is an all-time great and most definitely should be in HOF.
@MRees...Agreed.
PUT HIM THE GOD DAMN HALL!!!
Gonna have to agree.
What he did of the field is bad but what he did on the field over comes that
the ultimate singles hitter. did he ever hit a fly ball?
Not just a singles hitter. Doubles hitter as well. Rose is 2nd on the all time list in career doubles with 746. Only Tris Speaker has more with 793.
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Elly De La Cruz FTW! The GOAT!
1:21 I’d rather watch Mike Schmidt. He had better OBP, SLG, OPS, OPS+, and was a better fielder. Plus a nicer guy :)
Rose may have been a “pure” hitter, but Schmidt was a _better_ hitter.
Your crazy Pete was a lead off hitter smicth was a power hitter look at the stats not home runs PETE ROSE GOAT HITTERS OVER 4200 HITS A RECORD NO ONE WILL BEAT YOU HAVE TO AVERAGE 200 HITS A YEAR FOR 21 YEARS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN .SCMHIT SAID ROSE MADE THEM A GREAT TEAM AND PETE WAS ON THE GOAT TEAM THE BIG RED MACHINE .THE ONLY THING DID BETTER THAN PETE WAS HOME RUNS HE LEADS HIM IN HITS,DOUBLES TRIPLES,RUNS SCORED,AVERAGE,ON BASE PERCENTAGE ECT.ECT.ALL GIVE ME A BREAK PETE ROSE IS THE GOAT😊😊😊
If you really want to watch better hitters, there are better hitters to watch than Schmidt, even though he's a top-two third baseman. Here are just a few players with a better OPS+:
Ted Williams 191
Mike Trout 173
Mickey Mantle 172
Willie Mays 155
Hank Aaron 155
@@ron88303I agree! I was referencing Schmidt because he was mentioned in the video, and he was a teammate of Rose. All of the guys on your list are incredible. I actually collect video clips of Ted Williams, my favorite hitter ever.
The happiest day of my childhood was the day the Phillies got both of them on the same team.
@mitchelvalentino1569 You've got to be kidding me.
Why do you have to lie? Pete Rose had 10 seasons of 200 hits. It's stupid
This isn't really "Pete Rose On Hitting". It's somebody who isn't Pete Rose telling us what he thinks of Pete Rose. Click bait.
Well hello I'm Tyler. Rose. Not him but his son.. Live in Vegas with my 2 boys bout 15 min from my dads. I'm just a regular guy who just happens to have a dad that holds the records. But anyway about Mike. He really only went to Philly because coming from Cincy he knew he was Philladelphias X factor and knew how to beat the reds . And he knew going to Philly in 79 would be his best chance to win a WS because thats the only reason he played. To win. And Its how every young kid should approach the game honestly. And there were 3 other offers, bigger offers.. 1 being KC but my dad still is and was and always will be a national league guy. He knew the pitchers, the umps zones, Ballparks, lights etc. Everything. and to this day playing on astroturf will always be his favorite, and Philly had that plus Mike Schmidt..Mike has said it, he'll tell you about my dad and having a captain on the field to lead in the way he did making your teammates better. When my dad came to Philly, Mike went from being the best 3rd baseman in the league once a week, to becoming the greatest 3rd basemen in the league 5 days a week. Then he became the greatest 3rd baseman ever to play. That generation that was in Philadelphia and was there for that in 1980 won't say anything different cause they got to see it. I wasn't born till 84. But the Philly fans are the greatest fans I meet. They gave the Philly fans what they were waiting for. 1980!