How to Completely Ruin Maelstrom in Cyberpunk 2077
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- Опубликовано: 9 фев 2023
- Making good on what I said NYE that I'd release this Short once I got it done. It's been on the backburner because it required a whole new save and playthrough to accomplish, since it is reliant on specific choices at the beginning of the game.
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What are the chances you could start breaking down cyber punk red for first time players. build characters out (like you do), go over different rules in combat, list of skills in game and what they could be potentially used for. OR even a full blown story scenario with suggestions on how a group would go about it
a fixer has hired a group of runners to knock off a local weapon corp, who are crafting attachment mods for assault rifles. his contact wants two crates of the attatchments.
the you list out what some of the roles can do for prep on the mission, the fixer can grab explosives if that’s the route, the net runner casually hangs out around the place a couple days before hand, stealth hacking the systems so it’s easy pickings the day of the job.
and break down further playing out the whole job or even if you’ve known players and tell what they did on the mission and what skills would be called for by the GM
Thoughts?
I've actually started doing that a little later on last year. I have a few playlists, shorts, and longform videos around most topics. If you peek this short's description, there are links to them there.
If you want me to though, I can link you a few playlists in a reply here if it'll help. I've been mostly speaking from bare bones, minimal stuff to help people just get their foot in the door. I've contemplated dipping into some GM talk too, but haven't yet.
Let me know if you do want those links.
@@DiceTTRPGi’ll take whatever links you got. i’ve checked out a lot of the big name guys in 2020&RED and most of their videos they assume you have memorized the book and rule set and may mention some page numbers here and there, but always reference “check out my video on this specific topic” but i can’t never find exactly what i need to
i’m just looking for a step by step, game masters guide from learning mechanics, rules and how to run enemies or npcs, where to pull their stat blocks from or generate them from and eventually playing out a whole scenario from a GM Point of view
something like here’s 80% of what u need to know for combat, here’s how an actual scenario could play out, person 1 shoots their shotgun, they use their shoulder arms plus reflex becuz x,y,x reasons and movement
essentially breaking it all down for anyone to better understand what’s going on.
i’m gona be running the game but i learn better when examples are put infront of me. like the grenade or how cover works short that you put out a few weeks ago was better then reading it out loud from the book
and then move on to skills
and cyberware
etc
thanks for the shorts you’ve been doing btw
I'm glad they've been helpful. These are the 3 main playlists where I go over things. I haven't done a Sitdown in a long time, and had planned 2 for next week. Hearing all this does give me an idea of more I could talk about. From what you have detailed, Quickhacks may be the best bet for just putting Mechanics together. As for longer GM-sided things, I may pursue that a bit too later on.
I've always counted the other older channels as folks who definitely have been in the game longer than me, and I've always hoped attention I've brought to the game has helped their views out too. I'll consider doing something more step-by-step, but if I do it I'll be sure to pull it off my way. I still continue the Quickhacks line of Shorts any time I get a chance to. I'm about to move onto the stats and then skills.
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Cyberpunk Sitdowns - Longer Videos About Theory/Mechanics
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Cyberpunk Red Roles - A Series of Shorts Going Over Just Roles
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This happened my first playthrough 😂
First run through killed Royce picked up the detonator and went “well idk what this is blowing up” and blew brick into pieces without even knowing anything
Saw button, button says "Boom", you go boom. No other context needed.
I did that in my first e playthroughs before realizing its Brick I'm blowing up 😂
“What does _This_ button doo?”
-Deedee, Dexter’s Lab
CyberPunk players have taught me that I wouldn't trust any of you around the nuke button
@@PlayshotKalo I've been proudly hitting buttons without regret since Fallout 3. Got to keep my stream going!
(Your comment made me laugh harder than it should.)
I saved Brick for one reason : That's the only gang leader in NC that will reply to "I killed your guys " "Well they should have been stronger".
you got the same dialogue if you sneak past them
I respect the fuck outta brick as a character hes one badass choom thats for sure
This is one of the reasons I respect Brick. He always seemed like the reasonable and wise one.
Brick's the same type as kingpin a necessary evil
Brick is the single sane guy in Maelstrom, props to him
I opened the door for Brick and deactivated the charge, but I still killed him. This resulted in him being present in the mission, just he was laying on the ground dead, whenever he would have dialogue he would pop right back up, but he would be completely silent when talking, no subtitles, nothing. When he was done with dialogue he would go right back to being dead, pretty funny how the game didn’t anticipate me killing him even after opening the door.
That mustve been at launch, no way they let that in after 3 years
@@genjishimada5592 nope this was in my most recent playthrough of the game, when I played it at launch I just set off the detonator lol.
This happened when I went to talk to the boss guy at Clouds trying to find Evelyn. After you get information from him and resolve it peacefully, he has extra dialog after he goes to escort you to the door but I shot him before he could speak, then he'd resurrect for his speech dialog and die again lol
@@Jax_Augustin it must be fixed now, i just went through it again and hes marked as friendly so your gun automatically lowers when looking at him
@@Jax_Augustini hope you recorded it i always wanted to see an npc do this
"everyone kills royce"
>Me warning royce about the virus on the paychip and saving brick so I'm welcomed as family in Malestrom when i go to pick up Isis 😅
I did that and also save brick, i just figured the more allies the better.
You know you can disable the virus
But then you miss out on sir John
i didnt even know brick was still alive and that i killed him until reading comments here.
@@KitOkunariI never even saw brick anywhere ?
I can’t believe I destroyed all of maelstrom without even realising it
"Whoops!"
I don’t remember any of this. No cage? I pressed the detonator button but didn’t even see what it did at all
*It is what it is*
Yeah same..
@@WizzlyBearW0rms the detonator blows up brick.
I could never kill Dum Dum. He offered me a hit of his Black Lace. Sharing is caring. I could never kill someone like that.
Dum dum is a top choom!
if you let him live he also gets new teeth and is so excited to tell V about it
@@CorelUserWait, so you're telling me I could make friends with Dum Dum? Now I feel kinda bad for murdering the hell out of him. Even tho, when shit hit the fan, I started shooting at everything with red eyes, expecting it to try to kill me. But if it allows me to ruin Maelstrom, then fine. One of my greatest aspirations in the game is to completely destroy them by my own. I'll dismantle their leadership and then dismember every last one of them with my own mantis blades.
Usually if you see him again he has a rare weapon
Ngl you real for this
It's actually pretty surprising how much these very minor differences in choices could drastically affect future quests
If CD took more time to cook up Cyberpunk, I bet it would've had more of these types of choices and bringing more depth to the story
I agree. The amount of small choices you make in AllFoods and the ripples from it shows what could have been. Imagine if we had choices like that even just in The Heist.
@@DiceTTRPG God, just imagine if we could've saved Jackie..
I still wonder what would have happened if the Relic kicked on inside Jackie, full bore. Then your whole story is you trying to save your friend who looks like they're basically going through some kind of advanced cyberpsychosis until you start believing him.
That was the original goal, but another area started threatening the whole project would be scrapped if a product wasn't released within a set date before it was ready.
The original intent was exactly this, a perfect table top rendition done in the elderscrolls first person style, but as an action cyberpunk scifi world. That's why the anime was prepped & studio trigger was discussed with, b/c extra patches b/c of how rushed it was, would need a way to bring back the audience.
Agreed
Killed Royce because he was an overconfident, stupid, brutish psycho, saw Brick in his cell, was debating whether or not I should let him out, kill him or just leave him and explored the other room nearby. Then I came upon the detonator and my one braincell mind was just slamming down on the loot button while rummaging through the room... so I blew him up and thought "oh no... anyways..."
I think right after this mission, after seeing some more Maelstrom brutality I decided that I would establish a scorched earth policy against that gang. So when Patricia betrayed me, she just accelerated her demise since I did not plan to leave that area without a fight, especially after seeing the needlessly beat up woman.
Maelstrom and Raffen Shivs were the only gangs were I went lethal even if I did not have to, and with absolutely zero remorse. :P
You know I really cannot argue with that.
Me likey your style.
Kill them till theyre dead - thats more painful.
What about the voodoo boys? I don't see why you would be nice to any of the gangs save for the Mox.
My only argument with that is that theyre all equally bad, scavs, tyger claws, and most of the corps are worth just eliminating en masse
Under Brick they apparently weren't as bad and kept their stuff to attacking Militech and other corpo convoys. When Brick is usurped, things get bad. If you leave him alive, civil war breaks out in Maelstrom apparently.
This is the only outcome I’ve gotten 😂
Every single play through I forget what that detonation thing is for and blow him up
TBH I didn't even know there was an option to save him until my latest playthrough. I guess the first times he just died in the cell by himself because I killed everyone else there...
Speed runners: whos brick?
The pavement on the unpatched version 2 bump. Bricks😂😂
bruh i didnt even know either, i payed with militech card then killed a few people and just bolted out of there, so hes probably still locked up lmao
No lie it took three play throughs and a RUclips video for me to realize brick was even there
I never even saw Brick, OR a detonator. So I guess he's still locked there to this day... Anyways... *procceeds to raid Arasaka Tower alone*
I literally just realised this. Did the mission and saw the achievement about saving brick and thought “who’s Brick?” Then carried
On with the mission.
Hacked the credchip, shot Royce in the head, saved Brick. Kept the eddies for myself.
Best way to play the quest, I've done it that way like, three times now.
If you are a gunslinger credchip isn't worth it, compare to Doom Doom.
@@unknownbenefactor8029yeah, especially if you don't use handguns.
That's what I did but then I realised I missed out on a nice gun.
This game really lacks nice guns. Most of what you find sucks.
@@DGneoseeker1which gun?
And you get repaid by sleeping with Meredith too. All in a days work for a merc in NC.
Idk why but that scene when V draws his weapon on Royce and Jackie does his thing it looks so badass. And then when you shoot him. I love this game so much😂
My favorite is to draw on him to show the two Mercs mean business but then pay him (personally I like paying with the Spiked chip to fey the runner)to show that V is still diplomatic but ain't afraid to go scorched earth
Maelstrom and the Scavs are the only two gangs where I go out of my way to zero every single one, no acceptions
see yellow arrow, delete yellow arrow
6th street gangs, 6th street massacre. Simple.
I didn't even know Brick was alive, I've missed too much in this game.
then play again with the great update :D
@@xBintuhol up,did he got revived by the devs? It was told that Royce have given a fine hole additionally to his head with some lead. Now he is apperently alive? Holy shit
@@attilakovacs5040you could always kill brick or save him. He's locked up in a room somewhere with a detonator strapped to him, if you free him he will say he owes you one, that's what I did on my first playthrough
That's the very first one I got, and most of the ones after. What can I say? being Maelstrom's designated grim reaper is fun!
'What the fuck you got against us man!? Jesus-fucking-christ, if you want me dead just give me some fucking Black Lace and I'll fuckin' OD for you okay? FUCK!"
Way I saw it on my first game, having a gun to your head is just Night City, cut a deal with Royce on the hacked chip, became buds with Dum Dum, shot up Militech, no regrets
I had a similar mentality, but my conclusion was "we were discussing biz, and you drew a gun on ME?! Big mistake" and took them down. That is also very Night City, in my eyes.
Dude i cant believe how many options and consequences there are to this little throw away tutorial mission... Really enjoying this game so far (only just started it recently)
There are charts detailing all of the possible choices and outcomes of all the main missions, and this is the one with the most complexity by far.
@@jonathansutton1447 Sadly it's basically the only one with the most complexity as well. All other quests are basically a choice between "outcome" or "outcome but different way."
It's part of the reason I like act 1 the most, because The Pickup has the greatest number of possible outcomes to actually be able to complete it.
I didn't even know you could save brick I thought he was dead or at least that's how they made it sound
Fully savable, and he pays you back in this same mission if you do.
There's a door while you're battling up with one of two members, either with militech or maelstorm, but i suggest try betray with militech, at least you meet with brick
I got this, but I still have no idea who Brick is or how I supposedly killed him, lmao
Same😅
I just left him in his cage.
I still got the same outcome
I remember being able to side with them with led to merediths militech sqaud rolling in and me fighting to escape with the help of dum dum, it was pretty cool, i wish more missions had different outcomes like that
Definitely fun for the Villainous Anti-Maelstrom Play throughs
Being Anti-Maelstrom is automatically heroic.
@@integralcialbay4633 When you look into Brick actually wasn't a bad gang leader, old school if anything with code or rules, But ROYCE, dude Royce deserves to go. Especially if you've heard the Dialogue for siding with them in the Beginning. I love Maelstrom mostly due to their characters designs and stuff, but all the culty-murder barbaric stuff is just not it. And because Royce was on that "I can do whatever I want to whoever" status, he got what was coming to him I believe in all my play throughs.
Mealstrom are Barely any Better than Scavs
I accidently did this on my first playthrough, I was relieved when I found out I hadn't completely ruined the Maelstrom storyline. I was sure I had screwed things up until I finally got around to meeting Patty.
Lmao i didn't even know not killing everyone in Isis mission was an option lol, i killed everyone in the start in both of my playthroughs not knowing what that detonator does lol
This game has much lack of explanation. Just found out I missed the Asian guy's iconic Satori katana pretty much at the start of the game.
Past that door... It was hard.
Do tell….
what happens?
For them...
What is behind that door?
@@bio_josh non-player characters of sorts
This is the only version of that mission I’ve ever had lol. It’s so hard not just wasting Maelstrom lol.
“Royce, dumb dumb, brick.
These ‘men’ must die.”
I had no idea I killed them all off. Honestly the second Jackie started getting aggro I was like "Fuck it. You want a fight Jackie? Let's give em one"
ahh man , i fckd up this mission from the beginning :0
With all fairness said, I had to make a new save just to record this short too.
My favorite interaction is when you draw on Royce and then pay him just to show you dont wanna blast your way out but also aint afraid to do so
I just love how you get Royce to back down like a little dog just before you pull the trigger, the fact that he agrees to do business only after the guns up to his head just shows he's a coward who picks on those weaker than him that final "Bang" as you pull the trigger is just the sugar on top lol
Lol I got Paranoid Patty to show up in my first play through. Long story short, after discovering what Malestroms deal was, it was open session on the whole gang. No survivors.
Yup. I walked through that door and did my best impersonation of a blender making a smoothie and Maelstrom were the berries.
Mid way fighting my way out found the detonator and set it off not knowing what it was for. I heard the boom, shrugged assuming I set some trap off on the way out cleared out kept going never finding the cell. Whoops. 😂
Dum Dum is my second best friend, I could never betray him.
"choosing certain things" is such a nice way to put it. Just fuckin killing everything in sight describes how it felt as well as what you do
I have regerts. NC took my Jackie from me, so I took everything from NC.
I just think it’s neat.
Something about it catches me right. I mean the driving is janky for sure but there’s something about driving through it that just works.
"Brick's got it, Brick's got it." Yeah, anyone who treats me like that needs to die. Besides, junkies snort junk, Maelstrom snorts chrome. Ain't no chooms of mine.
If you detonate brick you’ll get 5000 eds from his bounty, as well as killing Royce in his boss fight in the garage, always make sure you shoot him after the fights over though, killing the two of them this way gives you 10000 eddies right at the start of the game
But the bounties never workes lol
I have a crush on Brick
After playing The Pickup in every possible way, I've decided that my favorite outcome is kill Royce, Dumdum and Brick, and then duke it out with Patricia and her pals at Totentanz. I've only manged to get the Doom-Doom pistol once [very tricky...Dumdum doesn't always drop it] and it comes too late in the game to be very useful. I could never figure out what that detonator was for in my early games...the action is too frantic to take a good look around and I don't think you can explore all of WholeFoods after wiping out all the Maelstrom goons.
Royce deserves bullet every replaythrough time.
Nothing, nothing will be as funny to me as just dropping grenades in there with the immunity perk. Thing of beauty...
I actually sided with both, Royce (by telling him about the virus on the shard), and Dum Dum (f king love that dude). When I got to the mission, had a chuckle at the conversations they were having and then left without leaving any bloodshed through the... unusual route
I have always saved Brick or Royce never killed both, the thought about what would happen if I did never occurred to me.
On my next playthrou I will kill them all to se what happends
I had always heard about this outcome too, and the whole point of the save file you've been seeing me play through on streams was just to make this single short. Just got to it this morning, and yeah, definitely a huge change in tone from when I normally do this.
Because I normally save Brick.
Royce got caught lackin' lol
"Bang" every single time
Ive got multiple 130 hour playthroughs on this game. Havent seen this one yet... But here i go with another 130 hours after watching this.
Is this when the Maelstromers ambush you in that small room where Bes Isis is tied and you have to fight for your life?
No this is where Maelstrom ambushed me in the small room where Bes is tied and THEY had to fight for their lives. I walked into this room over leveled as fuck and did my best impression of a blender making a smoothie, and Maelstrom were the berries.
I didnt see a detonator, nor did i see brick. Left him lmao
i murdered everyone but brick. I was thorough.
Will try this outcome for next phantom liberty replay!
You can kill Royce and Dum Dum and save Brick and Patricia is still at the door. Bonus of saving Brick is that he is with Bes Isis and will let you walk from the club without a fight from his gang.
In my first and only playthrough so far, I fanny’d about trying to find DumDum and Royce just died fighting the NCPD so when I said “don’t know what you’re talking about” I wasn’t lying.
Fun fact: the only combat frames we’ve faced of the vex are wyverns(outside of some bosses).
The rest of what we’ve gon against are the construction workers. 😭😭🙏
she’s like “just through this door, gowan. it’s okay🙂”
Ok, so I need a 3 hour breakdown of all the secret stuff cyberpunk has hidden. It's too damn good, there's too many things you can miss and it all creates a cohesive and engaging story no matter what kind of desicions you make along the way
This is how my first playthrough ended up actually
The only people that left that building alive were Jackie and myself.
I saved Brick so it was nice to get a warm welcome when I saw the Maelstrom crew again during that mission.
My friend on the other hand.... Well.... He learned the hard way.
They thought they trapped me, but actually they trapped themselves with me
I didn’t know this outcome was uncommon enough to warrant a video. Got this without thinking about it lol
This happened to me in both my run throughs, had no idea there were other possibilities 😂
In my first playthrough this is what happened because I found the detonator and blew him up without realizing it. I saved Brick every playthrough after it though
Didn’t realize my choices had impacts like this, I did the exact same thing not realizing what I set in motion. Loving this game so far, only started playing for the first time.
My first playthrough I did that. When they ambushed me in that room I pressed slow time and shot them all before they could draw their guns.
I was trapped in there for like 2 days, I was under leveled and just had to do the shimmy dance with bullets and a common revolver; it was absolute hell
I didn’t even know brick was there I was so disoriented I just shot at people and ran out of there 😭
I always save brick and never regret it especially when you meet up ith him later. The first time i thoght "hey i remember you, glad to see your still alive"
I didn't even realize i could free brick until I was almost out of the building
They caught me off guard when they turned on me inside that small room lolz.
Everytime I play, I always end up blowing a hole in Royce's head. I also tended to flip a coin with Brick. Always fun to see the reactions of the actions
Got this my last playthrough. Wasn't expecting it at all.
My first play through, I accidentally threw a grenade as I entered the maelstrom hide out, so I've never talked to any of those guys, just killed them all, and got to see this my first playthrough
Yeah, got this scenario, she started mentioning Royce and I was like:
"Phew, and here I thought I had to end the day without wiping out a single cyber abomination. I'ma borrow your guys out to level up my combat skills."
This mission had a few different things about it. Only recently found you can disable the infected credit Stroud gives you making you fight Militech
I’m going to be absolutely honest, I did this quest today and didn’t even remember who brick was until I realized he was the optional objective in all foods that I had completely ignored as I was bolting out with Jackie
I thought the all foods thing was something Johnny did when you gave him control I completely forgot about that, and needless to say when I walked into that back room shit did indeed hit the fan almost immediately
Reception seemed friendly when i met up with Brick in the second part there.
They need to make more missions like this, it was ridiculously well scripted and thought out 🔥
Dum Dum got done dirty man, justice for Dum Dum I swear.
in my first playthrough i didn’t even know Brick was in there and figured she took after after you killed Royce
Now you gotta do a "how to completely set Maelstrom up for life in Cyberpunk 2077" short.
i just walked into the room at all food shooting everyone and i gotta say the amount of times npc’s bring that up shocks me
I never knew what the detonator did, I just heard a boom and "hehe nice"
I actually unintentionally got this. Just blundered my way to it
The moment Royce pulled that gun out, I knew peace was no longer an option and Im glad CDPR gave us that opportunity.
The all foods mission in one of the very few if not the only one with actual branching paths depending on how you handle things.
I swear that room was one of the most difficult parts in the game for me its such a small room with so many guys with pretty much no cover.
Brick is still alive. I did this my first playthrough in 2021
That was my first outcome in my first run because that’s just the way I roll. 😂
i didnt even realize I did this in my first playthrough
Me confidemtly walking into the room with 1500 health and a legendary monowire with 1200dps 🗿
Got this outcome on my first playthrough lol. I completely missed meeting Brick but the legendary quasar is worth it.
Im surprised i did it all perfectly on my first run 😂, this mission was definitely a cool intro to the game
I managed to get Patricia as leader in my first game. It makes the quest a lot more fun IMO.
Alternatively you can do what I did - rip the turret off the base at the entrance of this building and every dialogue script is skipped to complete mayhem 😂
I didn't even know Brick or the detonator even existed but Patricia was still in charge when I went there
Huh, I actually got this my first time playing. Looks like my murder hobo tendencies paid off.
I didn’t even know there was any other options for this. My first and only play through I got this version.
It always blew my mind that people kept on saying that choices don't matter because all 4 endings are pretty straight forward, yet nobody paid attention to the fact that your choices can change what characters you run into, and how future missions look.