In Soulstorm, Gorgutz notices Sisters of Battle's faith has some similarities to Waaagh. He actually thought "they had their own form of Waaagh" but then dismissed that because "everyone knows you can't have a Waaagh without proper banners." This gets revealed in that short cut-scene that plays after winning the Sisters stronghold mission as Orks.
Everything the sisters have is a banner, I mean they even put a piano on top of a bloody tank then covered the pipes in gold then made the gold pipes shoot rockets at you.
@@megood1582 it's a possibility (many think that's what the star child is and he will become a full fledged god at death ) but we also know from slanesh that it takes many Millennia for a god to form /grow into his power so that may be why he keeps himself alive, waiting to be ready for his ascension. However I'm not sure a literal God empire could destroy the chaos gods but he could seriously weaken their influence
@laz kar Obviously not. I mean as in the context of its setting. Grey knights are depicted as that ultra secret the inquisition has been running on daemons' back for years with absolutely no trace of giving a shit about gangking the plebs that occasionally go to worship statues and what not. Having a grey knight ponder the thought of not murdeing your local human punching bags for any other reason than conveciance as funkmaster4040 noted would not be something 'realistic' in the conception of the grey knights as a whole.
That's Matt Ward for you, I personally feel that he was a spy hired by GW who didn't know that he had his own 'supreme kid' complex, and only found out too late
"Hell must be ice cold right now." Well Hell Always had a icy level to begin with. Seriously however I understood it as: "What if our enemy wanted us to slaughter those people? To say, power a weapon of mass destruction or something like that?"
I don't often comment on these things, but: Man, the voice actor for Roboutte Guiliman was cast dead-on. It's exactly how I'd imagine he would sound. Kudos.
Doesn't anyone else find it a tad ironic that the Emperor wished to make a completely atheist and scientific Imperuim, yet 10,000 years later his powers grow with prayers devoted to him?
Its actually pretty debatable if "his power" is being bolstered by religious devotion. Those feelings and thoughts could have just as easily amassed into a purely warp based entity that merely mirrors the Emperor as he is seen by the vast masses of the Imperium - which has some pretty huge differences to the Emperor himself. Also, despite being largely from unreliable sources, there are hints that the astronomican is slowly fading and that is basically straight made from the Emp. To me, it seems more likely that if the Emperor himself is related to utilizing the aggregated energy of human faith - then it is probably a lot more like a grudging act of steering that energy to places that it needs to go rather than absorbing it and then utilizing it himself to reach out into the universe directly . . . . and because its grimdark, the effort to do this is probably accelerating the rate at which his soul is fracturing/fading. In fact, his absolute disdain for faith and disgust at being worship might be the very thing that makes his soul unreceptive to those energies.
Because he was going to suffocate the chaos God with the imperial truth. But to keep the emperor Alive and keep humanity unified without him they began worshipping him which in turn made him into a god
@Osiris Mortalitas You mistake The Emperor of Humankind, a human (!!!) perpetual, with what is the warp entity that became, through (acts of) faith, what ppl call The God Emperor... they are totally different beings.
If we think of the Humanity as one of the races created by the Old Ones, I have some hypothesis: 1. The Emperor act as a belief similar to the gods Gork and Mork and the energy of the faith is taken from a group of beings who can channel it like Waaaagh! 2. The Old Ones made the Humanity able to use this energy similar to Waaagh! but less unpredictable and easier to control to enhance the psychic ability that we already have. 3. Plot hole
It is worth remembering that Malcador could use psychic powers in the presence of Sisters of Silence. Stern might have simply overpowered the Culexus in a similar manner.
As a Christian this is why Warhammer 40K is one of my favorite fantasy genres, faith is not just a tool used by the ecclesiarchy to keep political power for control over humanity, rather it is a universal source of power granted to those who dedicate themselves to it's source. Too often in pop and science literature is faith viewed nothing more than a relic or misguided and useless practice by the uneducated or corrupt. Not that this happens frequently as is continuously explored and pointed out through common understanding and the stories in 40K lore, however the purity of faith itself remains separate and it's not ultimately viewed as anything more or less than a powerful tool as any other in the grim darkness of the far future, and in war any tool at your disposal is valuable beyond measure.
Gork and Mork are warp based gods but are not atall tied to the ruinus powers as far as i know, and we know there is a warp based god in the emperor of mankind because of how the warp functions and all the humans that have faith in him, as the emperor is believed to be anathama to chaos it would make sense that how he functions would not be atall chaos inclined like that of the ork gods, Brilliant theory as always.
I think this was one of the big reasons The Emperor insisted on making the Imperium of Man atheistic of the strong atheist variety, as if all humanity believed there was no god(s) it might make it so within the warp, effectively killing the chaos gods, that was one of the reasons he insisted he wasn't a god, so it wouldn't affect him (and well also wouldn't contradict him)
It wouldn't kill them in my opinion. It would massively harm them by both power denial and impact their personalities, which you could argue effectively mission kills them. One thing I never understood is why the Emperor didn't claim that Demons/Chaos was literally just 'Warp Xenos' as part of the whole 'no gods or demons, only mankind' thing. It neatly defangs Chaos cultists (for the most part) by framing the truth in a manner antithetical to religious devotion and more in line with scientific principles. It wouldn't be 100% effective (god damn it Lorgar!) but it would have been a basis far more stable in impact even if other things played out the same way. You'd get a total monotheism where no spiritual entities exist save The God Emperor, only warp spawned pretenders. Much harder to get a monotheist to consider working for another deity when said deity is known to them as 'That vile warp xenos' rather than a mystery. Just my view on it.
@@Sorain1 I think I read a book once, where daemons were described as warp xenos. Can’t remember what book though and can’t remember who said it (but it was someone from the Imperium). Was before the heresy.
Once again I say there is nothing mysterious about faith, it is simply the natural effect of humanity's collective unconsciousness being guided by shared belief.
@@fumarc4501 it varies on a species/faction basis so I'll seperate it. Orks: also believe they are the strongest race, countering humanity's own belief as they exceed our race in population Eldar: on a galactic scale are simply too insignificant to launch a full scale galactic genocide on Tau: Even less significant than Eldar in galactic terms Dark Eldar: are smart and only atteck weakened forces they know they can defeat, thereby avoiding large scale retaliation from humanity at large Necrons: have technology that can alter forces of reality which makes them so terrifying that humans are doubtful of their ability to defeat them Tyranids: somehow have an ability to "block out" the Warp which most likely makes them resistant or immune to the Warp's reality altering affects Chaos: Feeds upon humanity's innate and instinctive emotions which are further fueled by the constant strife the Imperium suffers, thereby turning human belief in their own abilities and superiority against themselves
@@zenoblues7787 I do have an idea for a fanmade xenos, called Taonites. They would be a psychic race, second only to the Eldar, albeit more numerous and mysterious due to their aura of misconception. *yes, I know, kill me*
Powers of faith existed pre heresy. According to the book series, can't remember the quote, but she banished a demon well before the heresy began by calling on the emperor's name while brandishing an aquilla like a cross
@@lord2529 yes, I was kinda confused by it happening cause the emperor had outlawed his own worship, so I KNEW it wasn't him hearing her plea through the warp and answering. so I say definitive proof that "faith" is human wargh power. but unlike it she was able to invoke it without a multitude of others backing her up... so really this incident could be a case of writer breaking continuity on accident.
@@vishnar2515 I remember this. I have a few theories. Hear me out. Obviously, the first is the waaaarg like similarities. Where when enough people believe something to be true, then it manifests. Second is the emperor probably did answer the prayers. The Last Church made mention of this. The priest is a survivor from one of the armies fighting the thunder warriors. When one of the bolter rounds detonate close to him it blinded him. That is when he saw big E up in the clouds being a godly like and shit. Imagine a giant face forming in the clouds. It told him to go find the rock. And it is there the lightning struck and gave him his vision back. Big E later came and confirmed that it was him talking to the priest back then. My final theory is, the faith of the sisters is warp power. But filtered or purified by big E. Instead of drawing it from the warp directly, they are drawing it from the boss himself.
The Warp reflects everything. Death. Life. War. Prosperity. Madness. Change. Pleasure. Honor. Betrayal. Love. Hatred. Emptiness. Vengeance. Whispers of wishes. Intention of billions. As does the daemons wrath fly on the wings of warp dust. So too does the immortal soul of the indomitable human spirit.
Stern’s Powers May actually be something even more powerful than mere faith. She is the vessel for hundreds of souls United. This is very similar to the origins of one other entity, the God Emperor himself. Smaller in scale yes, but he was created by the combination of thousands of psykers United into one soul, and one body. Therefore, it may be possible that Stern is a light “like the Warp but not of it” because her powers are the same type as the Emperor’s
With Roboute Guiliman being pronounced as the savior of the Imperium, granted time, is likely that we could see a benevolent presence of the 13th primarch manifest in the warp?
@Iron Hands Terminator Wait what? I thought Corax ran away into the eye of terror. And people keep telling me that Vulkan is dead. And what is this engine of woes? I only read about it briefly and all I know that it is a set of 3. The Lion met the ouroboros? Don't quote me on that. All I remember is that the one with the Lion can help warp travel be safer.
Thomas Yap What he is talking about is the series on youtube named “If the Emperor had a Text to Speech Device” made by Alfabusa , it’s extremely hilarious and talks a bit about the lore as well but in a “funnier” way. One of the episodes mentions Corax being trapped in the Engine of Woes (It’s basically just a Electric Car from today) by Vulcan. ruclips.net/video/XRuWCgyDBQo/видео.html I recommend you watch from episode 1 to actually get an idea of what’s happening but if you click on the link here, head to 13:49 and watch from there.
Here is another theory question that is connected to this. Are the C'than using the same power as Orks&Faith? Since they can do monumental feats of "magic" yet have no connection with the warp what so ever?
3:40 - (points in the general direction of Chaos worshippers) HERETICS!!! (gets out of the way as the Sisters of Battle charge at the heretics) | 6:53 - (monotone) All hail Big Papa Ultrasmurf! | 8:55 - She should've been f****d against one of those. | 9:50 - Zagdakka was capable of taking down a Reaver Titan with his powers. | 10:50 - Blue is lucky, they miss more. Green is best, as it's an Ork colour. Purple is sneaky...you've never seen a purple Ork. Black is dead hard and white is the colour of death. | 11:40 - The Imperial Fists won't like that...
makes me think how do black templars not manifest faith like this? i know most astartes dont worship the emperor as a god but the black templars are clearly an exception
No, not even close,Stern is made of 700 normal human souls with no psychic powers while the Emperor was born of the most powerfull and wise shamans of Terra which were much MUCH more powerfull than a normal human. So no if i were so simple as to fusse 1000 normal souls to create Emperor 2.0 then they would have done it but if they attempted to somehow make another beign similar to the Emperor their souls would be eaten in the warp before they merge [the shamans had the power to defend themselves unlike normal humans,since then the warp became more chaotic though so i might be worse]
Aint that redcon? Or did I loose track with what's official or not? The exact origin of the new man is now not official is it? But we know 10000 psykers are sacrificed to supply Big E every day. No Stern or wannabe emperor could compete with gathering so many souls for sure
Bit of a tangent, I know, but what this reminds me of most is actually Dungeons and Dragons lore (at least, old DnD lore). I’m fairly certain I remember reading that, for the purposes of channeling a deity’s power, the efficacy of certain items or talismans is directly affected by the faith of the person attempting to use the item. For example, your average farmer attempting to ward off a vampire with a god’s symbol might not do anything more than give the vampire a bit of mild indigestion; on the other hand, a cleric of that god, someone who has devoted their life to the service of that god, could easily reduce a vampire to ashes simply by brandishing their god’s symbol. It could be that 40k works by a similar sort of “logic”. Your average guardsman may well believe in the Emperor, but is pretty much guaranteed to become food, a trophy, a sex toy or all 3 for any daemons he comes across. Then there are the Sisters of Battle, who have been pretty much indoctrinated into the Imperial Cult from early childhood and base their whole mentality around faith in the Emperor. And while the Sisters still have some fairly humiliating deaths dealt to them by minions of the Chaos Gods, they’re also able to achieve things that could be classified as “bullshit” through no power other than belief. And when you combine psychic powers with even greater levels of faith, you get “OP, PLZ NERF” types of stuff, like Grey Knights being able to make daemons feel actual pain just by being near them.
Waaaaghh energy can be effected by Nulls. I believe that Faith as much more concentrated psykic energy is harder to Null. Nulls can be effected by a stronger psyker. this happened in the Eisenhorn and Ravenor books. Faith might just be harder to Null out.
They made him weaker but didn't cancel him out as he was ridiculously power full. I kinda think of it like water. The null has a 3D Aura. If you shoot into water bullets will stop with in the foot or inches of the surface. The more powerful the gun the farther it'll reach before it stops. As for the Psyker itself, it's like firing a gun under water the longer it's in the aura the more it'll stop functioning. The crappier the gun the faster it stops. The Atlas Infernal had a Great(!) bit with a Omega -x2 Null. It made G.Knight heads go pop and dissolved a Lord of Change!
A, likely heretical, data point to consider in addition to the Ork whaaag, which both is and isn't psychic in nature. Is the web way, which is neither the materiam, or immateriam, yet has traits of both. Perhaps there exist a thin quasi-materiam between the materiam and the immateriam that can be harnessed like, and/or though, the immateriam yet acts as if of the materiam, and doesn't require psykers only enough will, individual or collective?
Perhaps, it certainly would be interesting if that proved to be the case. But given the nature of the Warp, I personally feel that the power of "faith" really is simply a simulacrum of Ork WAAAAAGH!!! energy. Similar in many ways, but also decidedly different for rather obvious reasons.
@@refurbishedtechpriest9076 ah but sir Inquisitor would not this Theory also help explain said WAAAGH energy as well as faith, but where as the dirty xeno need to channel it though a low level psyker, while it would seem we human, with our faith, do not?
@@James-ep2bx Not really. It's already known why the Orks possess and harness WAAAGH!!! "energy". It's something they were created with in order to fight the Necrons and their C'tan masters.
@@refurbishedtechpriest9076 but what exactly is waagh energy? Let's not overlook who created the ork, and what else they created, dose not the web way demonstrate their ability to work between the ward and the real world? And could not waaagh energy be just another example of that?
You can accomplish things that would otherwise be impossible, however you have no actual ability to control when it manifests or in what form it appears.
@Iron Hands Terminator coming from a Son of Ferrus Manus that is an honor. I should send you guys some supplies sometime, I helped out your loyal cousins before.
Hmm... that description of sorcery seems... a little lacking. Yeah, making pacts with daemons is definitely a favorite past-time of truly corrupted chaos sorcerers... but Thousand Sons sorcerers were practicing magic far before the realization that entities within the warp were sentient. And, even afterwards, used sorceries in such a way that often ignored daemonic powers. Mostly, sorcery (at least looking at the early Ahriman books), seems to involve the usage of ritual, symbolism, focus, and concentration in very specific ways to manipulate psychic and warp energies to a specific end. This could involve using artifacts as focii, carving complex symbols, or even adjusting one's own heartbeat to a specific beat in order to make the effect become reality.
Wait, the *Black Templars* ally with Chaos Marines (brief as it may be) to fight against Orks, rather then stand against both Armies at once? What is this Madness, that made these Guys make a pragmatic Decision?! This ist even weirder than the Blood Angels and Necrons allying against Tyranids and then not even stabbing each other in the Back afterwards.
Here is the irony of the God Emperor; He despite all his power, is interred on his throne in an ever dying state. He was the most powerful human Psyker know to man. A huge presence in the Warp. He was interred to power a beacon in the warp. He may or may not be a perpetual. Faith has power to manifest in the Warp. So the Faith of Mankind affects his power within the Warp. He is a Warp God, with a dying mortal vessel. He became a living Warp God in the end. So one has to ask what that actually means for him. Why doesn’t he shed his Mortal vessel? Is in to much pain to maintain his sanity? Is he a perpetual who can’t actually die? Is he trapped? Does the vessel anchor an restrict him from using humanities Faith like the other Warp Gods? What’s he waiting for if he is still aware? Is it because this isn’t the victory he wanted? Because he would rather have humanity overcome extraneous negativities that manifest to rule them? He undoubtedly has enough power to ascend and rival some other entities. That’s what the Aeldari lore illustrates. That with enough psychic beings, with enough psychic presence, it manifests its essence. Slasnesh. All the others. The Aeldari Gods who were eaten, and the few left in existence. The theme seems to be that the collective unconsciousness of any group of consciousnesses manifest and rise up to enslave the group. And it feedsback into them, they manifest because of the essence of mankind, and then in turn cause more of that same thing in mankind again, strengthening them. Bondage to your faults. To your… dare I say it? Sin. And when you consider the state of mankind and the powers that invisible immaterial things like shared ideas and consciousnesses have… Seems pretty great as an analog to explore what ails in actuality. The weight of the things that exist only in the minds of men. Individually, and as a whole.
The concept you are trying to clarify here is actually already formulated since XIX century and by the way is also well known to at least some of the 40K universe creators. It is the concept of egregors and egregorial magic. And while Sororitas miracles and orcs's reality-bending waargh are good examples you miss one of the most well known ones in the empire itself. The machine spirits, that are constantly worshiped, in the common case - practically independently of worshiping the emperor actually do work and eventually turnin simple devices into relics with characteristics, that while having no reasonable explanation, reflect the wishes of their users (and in some more advanced cases - even manifest will to follow them). Of cause relics, powered by the Imperial egregor are much more potent, but also unique and surely more energy and focus consuming, while simple guard lasguns used by generations of soldiers to fight orks will be irrationally effective when used against orks for a reasonable amount of time on their own.
The powers of faith are indeed confusing and unique. Since Chaos followers do not display the same abilities, nor to such a severe degree with first exposing themselves to raw warpstuff or evil warp trinkets. The Emperor shows a clear role in all of this, even of he is not the direct cause. It seems more like the Emperor's fragments and powers are responding to the presence of human faith in the warp calling out to him.
The emperor is a perpetual. Meaning would he die he'd be reborn. The emperor the imperial creed worships is a warp entity. The emperor never wanted to be worshipped as a god, that was lorgar's fall. So don't praise the emperor brothers. Believe in his return. The emperor protects.
I think, at its most basic and stripped down form, faith is a convicted hope. Hope can be an emotion, but it is one that cannot be broken or tempted. One can have hope but also despair simultaneously.
There are some great 40k For Newcomers videos on this channel :) I'd stay away from 1d4chan until you know the lore because there's a lot of fan-made material on there too to muddy the waters.
5 лет назад
I dare say I heard Arch and his little buddy Kyle throwing some shade on you in a livestream earlier 40k theories keep up the good work!
I mean, Wagh is in itself pretty much a form of faith, isn't it? There's nothing rational that makes orky tek work, it's just their total trust in the fact it works that keeps it functional. I think that's pretty much the definition of faith right there.
Maybe the difference is that "Faith" comes from within, from the person's own soul, and so isn't therefore affected by disconnection from the Warp. Intense faith could create a localized personal warp bubble around them.
How would this theory work with Saint Celestine? Because I wasn't convinced by the theory that she was a daemon. If the collective consciousness of the Aeldari can manifest in the birth of a god like Ynnead, couldn't something similar be happening with mankind? And, if so, would this have to be related to the emporer or could it be something else like the Star Child?
Faith *should* still be stopped by psychic null fields, it is calling on whatever is forming in the warp as a result of Emperor worship. This seems a serious lore contradiction they written in, or it is not the Emperor but something truly divine and not of the warp which has decided to act in response this worship of the Emperor (which seems odd).
suggestion: commonalities between the emperor and the celestials of the tau. both came seemingly out of know where have uncommonly strong warp presence for their species unified their people then began building an intergalactic empire both deny the existence of magic despite(seemingly in the tau's case) knowing of demon and encourage belief in science and reason. Theory just as there are gods of chaos there is(are) god(s) of order that created both the emperor and celestials. the emperor was a symbiotic fusion and developed a humanistic bent and couldn't separate out. having learned the danger of putting all its(their) eggs in one basket, and having lost a great deal of it's power it tried again influencing multiple beings rather then fusing the equivalent of several greater daemons with one very powerful individual.
Faith powers could also be granted by an aspect of the Emperor's soul within the warp that is growing in power but as yet disconnected with the Emperor himself. It's even possible that the Horus Heresy was part of a plan to do this to garner more power so as to be able to stand up to the combined might of Chaos.
How do you explain the instance in False Gods (I think it is) where the remembrancer was able to fend off the daemon within the archives upon Horus' flagship before the heresy even began? While yes the crusade had been bringing more believers into the fledgling imperial cult during the crusade, it was actively persecuted and the emperor wasn't yet interred into the golden throne yet. Or does this just qualify in the mysterious psychic category that isn't a psychic category portion?
4 года назад
The "mind control" abilities of tau ethereals. The ork waaaaagggh And the human faith. These all seem to be manifestations of a similar phenomena that exists seperate from the warp. Perhaps it is manifested in a "sub-warp"? (Like "in-between" the warp and reality? Being both part of neither yet intertwined with it at the same time?). Would be damn cool. Having a waaagghh would make humans super OP and generally give them a bit more hope (hey... It can't be all grimdark. Sometimes we need a win)
As I was watching this, I came up with a theory myself. What if The Emperor is fully aware of the power of the Orks? And what if that power exists within all living things in the 40k universe? And that's the purpose of The Imperial Cult. To give The Emperor enough power to return to physical form and walk amongst humanity again to (hopefully) save it from the Xenos menace? Just a thought.
One thing just crossed my mind. What if humans were created by the old ones, as a attempt to create something between the orks and the eldars? A type a creature that could harness the power similar to the waaargh the orks have, but with more control over their psychic powers, like the eldars. When you think about it, it makes sense when you realize that the horus heresy would, according to the cabbal, leading to the extinction of mankind if Horus had won. Why the Chaos Gods would want mankind's death, their main source of "food"? Unless they saw that mankind could one day hold the power to change even the warp with their faith, to lead to the death of the ruinous powers.
I assume that Faith draws its power from one's own soul or Souls that inhabit them so it doesn't have that massive raw energy you get from the warp but it's safer and less corruptible since you get it from literally yourself
I don't think faith is different than psychic power. But rather there is a difference in the technique between disciplines. Also Stern sounds like she is her own private warp field. So unless the blank can affect her self contained field they may not be able to stop her powers. Literally her power does not steam from the warp that surrounds her, as it is for most, but a phychic field that is within her and foreign to the outside warp.
I see it like this.. Every human has at least a tiny amount of psychic power. Trillions of inconceivably small photons. Faith in the Emperor coalesces this power and focuses it like a lens to burn away the enemies of Mankind.
Willpower, minds, and souls seem linked. Perhaps they are different aspects of the immaterium, which seems to be the embodiment of that what cannot be touched.
The misunderstanding of the difference between the Emperor of Humankind, human (!!!) perpetual and psyker, and the warp entity (!!!) known as the god emperor runs deep...
4 года назад
I think this is a point of strong contention. 1) nothing would stop the actual emperor from absorbing the energy 2) nothing stops the emperor from simply directing the warp energy where it needs to go. 3) The same arguments can be made for the child of light. The prayers might be going there 4) the idea of a human pseudo-waagh that could be accidentally channeled by certain warp sensitives is highly likely. I get the argument that they are praying to the "idea of an emperor" in their heads, but they are also highly aware of where (in a physical, litteral sence) that emperor is. Simply visualising him there on his golden throne on terra while they pray might be all the direction that is needed for the warp energy to go there. Also, the child of light (consisting only of love) litterally perfectly fits the "idea" they have in their head. It is very likely the energy goes there.
Wait...Black Templars agreeing to a truce with Astartes of a traitor legion? I'm questioning the validity of that particular novel. It reeks of HERESY!
if we consider the warp and the use of psychic power to be dark energy, then perhaps faith is a form of light energy. and just as the chaos gods are the masters and representation of the warp, then perhaps the Emperor is to the light as the chaos gods are to the dark.
Crackpot idea: what if faith is the reason why it was foresaw that if the emperor won the Horus heresy, chaos would consume the galaxy. Without religion, or some form of supernatural faith, humanity would have only normal psykers, who utilize warp energy, and would have to wholly rely on them for anything warp-based. Whereas, if the emperor lost completely, faiths in other religions could take root, producing the effects of faith that do not rely on warp energies.
Neat idea, but for some reason my train of thought doesn't end up making the same conclusions when I think about that kinda situation. Respectfully disagree.
In Soulstorm, Gorgutz notices Sisters of Battle's faith has some similarities to Waaagh. He actually thought "they had their own form of Waaagh" but then dismissed that because "everyone knows you can't have a Waaagh without proper banners." This gets revealed in that short cut-scene that plays after winning the Sisters stronghold mission as Orks.
Damn you now I have to play Soulstorm SP again with all the races
I think humanity has the proper banners... the icon and battle standards of the Imperium.
Everything the sisters have is a banner, I mean they even put a piano on top of a bloody tank then covered the pipes in gold then made the gold pipes shoot rockets at you.
Wait, Soulstorm has a SP? Isn't it just a generic capture the territory campaign?
@@Makorze Not only that, the rocket organ itself has so much faith it can deny the witch
Isn’t it ironic then that they (the sisters of battle) worship the universe’s most powerful Psyker?
The Man Emperor of Mankind is holiest of psykers.
I agree it is quite ironic (says while inquisitor is not around)
its more ironic when the emperor is worshiped as god, the thing he despised so much
@@megood1582 it's sadly a necessity so he can utilize the warp ripples of their believe to keep chaos at Bay
@@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547 so if the emperor truly dies, will he become god equal to chaos gods, and destroy them within the warp?
@@megood1582 it's a possibility (many think that's what the star child is and he will become a full fledged god at death ) but we also know from slanesh that it takes many Millennia for a god to form /grow into his power so that may be why he keeps himself alive, waiting to be ready for his ascension. However I'm not sure a literal God empire could destroy the chaos gods but he could seriously weaken their influence
The hell? A grey knight hesitant on murdering a bunch of unimportant plebs? Hell must be ice cold right now.
Not because they feel bad for the plebs but because the backlash from mass murder on that scale could damage their Grey Knight stuff.
@@funkmaster4040 Of course, that's much more realistic.
@laz kar Obviously not. I mean as in the context of its setting. Grey knights are depicted as that ultra secret the inquisition has been running on daemons' back for years with absolutely no trace of giving a shit about gangking the plebs that occasionally go to worship statues and what not.
Having a grey knight ponder the thought of not murdeing your local human punching bags for any other reason than conveciance as funkmaster4040 noted would not be something 'realistic' in the conception of the grey knights as a whole.
That's Matt Ward for you, I personally feel that he was a spy hired by GW who didn't know that he had his own 'supreme kid' complex, and only found out too late
"Hell must be ice cold right now." Well Hell Always had a icy level to begin with.
Seriously however I understood it as: "What if our enemy wanted us to slaughter those people? To say, power a weapon of mass destruction or something like that?"
I don't often comment on these things, but: Man, the voice actor for Roboutte Guiliman was cast dead-on. It's exactly how I'd imagine he would sound. Kudos.
Doesn't anyone else find it a tad ironic that the Emperor wished to make a completely atheist and scientific Imperuim, yet 10,000 years later his powers grow with prayers devoted to him?
Its actually pretty debatable if "his power" is being bolstered by religious devotion. Those feelings and thoughts could have just as easily amassed into a purely warp based entity that merely mirrors the Emperor as he is seen by the vast masses of the Imperium - which has some pretty huge differences to the Emperor himself. Also, despite being largely from unreliable sources, there are hints that the astronomican is slowly fading and that is basically straight made from the Emp.
To me, it seems more likely that if the Emperor himself is related to utilizing the aggregated energy of human faith - then it is probably a lot more like a grudging act of steering that energy to places that it needs to go rather than absorbing it and then utilizing it himself to reach out into the universe directly . . . . and because its grimdark, the effort to do this is probably accelerating the rate at which his soul is fracturing/fading. In fact, his absolute disdain for faith and disgust at being worship might be the very thing that makes his soul unreceptive to those energies.
Because he was going to suffocate the chaos God with the imperial truth. But to keep the emperor Alive and keep humanity unified without him they began worshipping him which in turn made him into a god
Or this was his plan all along.
+Wayne Laighart
(tzeentch somewhere in the warp)
_All according to plaaaaaaan!_
@Osiris Mortalitas You mistake The Emperor of Humankind, a human (!!!) perpetual, with what is the warp entity that became, through (acts of) faith, what ppl call The God Emperor... they are totally different beings.
If we think of the Humanity as one of the races created by the Old Ones, I have some hypothesis: 1. The Emperor act as a belief similar to the gods Gork and Mork and the energy of the faith is taken from a group of beings who can channel it like Waaaagh! 2. The Old Ones made the Humanity able to use this energy similar to Waaagh! but less unpredictable and easier to control to enhance the psychic ability that we already have. 3. Plot hole
A re-upload? Or a test of our faith by the inquisition?
A remastered version. This has better audio as well as a *lot* more information (it's close to 3 times longer than the original)
@@40KTheories Thank the Emperor!
I haven't seen this 1 before so I'm cool with it
@@40KTheories Thanks, I really like that you are willing to remake videos with extra/new information.
It is worth remembering that Malcador could use psychic powers in the presence of Sisters of Silence. Stern might have simply overpowered the Culexus in a similar manner.
Except Stern isn't the most powerful psycher natural humanity has ever produced, and the sisters of silence dont use devices to amplify their effects.
As a Christian this is why Warhammer 40K is one of my favorite fantasy genres, faith is not just a tool used by the ecclesiarchy to keep political power for control over humanity, rather it is a universal source of power granted to those who dedicate themselves to it's source.
Too often in pop and science literature is faith viewed nothing more than a relic or misguided and useless practice by the uneducated or corrupt. Not that this happens frequently as is continuously explored and pointed out through common understanding and the stories in 40K lore, however the purity of faith itself remains separate and it's not ultimately viewed as anything more or less than a powerful tool as any other in the grim darkness of the far future, and in war any tool at your disposal is valuable beyond measure.
Justin Bich
Despite the founder of the Imperium itself being a total atheist.
Orks: "WAAAAAAAAAAAGH!"
Humies: "FOR THE EMPRAH!"
Gork and Mork are warp based gods but are not atall tied to the ruinus powers as far as i know, and we know there is a warp based god in the emperor of mankind because of how the warp functions and all the humans that have faith in him, as the emperor is believed to be anathama to chaos it would make sense that how he functions would not be atall chaos inclined like that of the ork gods, Brilliant theory as always.
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WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm sorry, could you clarify what you mean by * ahem * AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH?
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Love the voice you found for Guilliman. Great update, too, but I wish there was a little more exploration of Living Saints.
He almost sounds like Micheal Dorn (aka Worf).
I think this was one of the big reasons The Emperor insisted on making the Imperium of Man atheistic of the strong atheist variety, as if all humanity believed there was no god(s) it might make it so within the warp, effectively killing the chaos gods, that was one of the reasons he insisted he wasn't a god, so it wouldn't affect him (and well also wouldn't contradict him)
It wouldn't kill them in my opinion. It would massively harm them by both power denial and impact their personalities, which you could argue effectively mission kills them. One thing I never understood is why the Emperor didn't claim that Demons/Chaos was literally just 'Warp Xenos' as part of the whole 'no gods or demons, only mankind' thing. It neatly defangs Chaos cultists (for the most part) by framing the truth in a manner antithetical to religious devotion and more in line with scientific principles. It wouldn't be 100% effective (god damn it Lorgar!) but it would have been a basis far more stable in impact even if other things played out the same way. You'd get a total monotheism where no spiritual entities exist save The God Emperor, only warp spawned pretenders. Much harder to get a monotheist to consider working for another deity when said deity is known to them as 'That vile warp xenos' rather than a mystery. Just my view on it.
@@Sorain1 I think I read a book once, where daemons were described as warp xenos. Can’t remember what book though and can’t remember who said it (but it was someone from the Imperium). Was before the heresy.
Once again I say there is nothing mysterious about faith, it is simply the natural effect of humanity's collective unconsciousness being guided by shared belief.
Then why doesn’t Humanity rule the Galaxy?
@Iron Hands Terminator and the Necrons?
@@fumarc4501 it varies on a species/faction basis so I'll seperate it.
Orks: also believe they are the strongest race, countering humanity's own belief as they exceed our race in population
Eldar: on a galactic scale are simply too insignificant to launch a full scale galactic genocide on
Tau: Even less significant than Eldar in galactic terms
Dark Eldar: are smart and only atteck weakened forces they know they can defeat, thereby avoiding large scale retaliation from humanity at large
Necrons: have technology that can alter forces of reality which makes them so terrifying that humans are doubtful of their ability to defeat them
Tyranids: somehow have an ability to "block out" the Warp which most likely makes them resistant or immune to the Warp's reality altering affects
Chaos: Feeds upon humanity's innate and instinctive emotions which are further fueled by the constant strife the Imperium suffers, thereby turning human belief in their own abilities and superiority against themselves
@@zenoblues7787 I do have an idea for a fanmade xenos, called Taonites. They would be a psychic race, second only to the Eldar, albeit more numerous and mysterious due to their aura of misconception. *yes, I know, kill me*
Powers of faith existed pre heresy. According to the book series, can't remember the quote, but she banished a demon well before the heresy began by calling on the emperor's name while brandishing an aquilla like a cross
Are you talking about Euphrati Keeler? The first saint to banish a daemon? She did that on the Vengeful Spirit.
Yes, this is indeed the case. She also seemed to display some minor psychic charisma and precognition.
@@RedMageNeko Fun fact, she and Loken could have happened if not for the ongoing heresy.
@@lord2529 yes, I was kinda confused by it happening cause the emperor had outlawed his own worship, so I KNEW it wasn't him hearing her plea through the warp and answering. so I say definitive proof that "faith" is human wargh power. but unlike it she was able to invoke it without a multitude of others backing her up... so really this incident could be a case of writer breaking continuity on accident.
@@vishnar2515 I remember this. I have a few theories. Hear me out. Obviously, the first is the waaaarg like similarities. Where when enough people believe something to be true, then it manifests. Second is the emperor probably did answer the prayers. The Last Church made mention of this. The priest is a survivor from one of the armies fighting the thunder warriors. When one of the bolter rounds detonate close to him it blinded him. That is when he saw big E up in the clouds being a godly like and shit. Imagine a giant face forming in the clouds. It told him to go find the rock. And it is there the lightning struck and gave him his vision back. Big E later came and confirmed that it was him talking to the priest back then. My final theory is, the faith of the sisters is warp power. But filtered or purified by big E. Instead of drawing it from the warp directly, they are drawing it from the boss himself.
This was one of your most thought provoking and fascinating vids yet, Thanks!
The Warp reflects everything.
Death.
Life.
War.
Prosperity.
Madness.
Change.
Pleasure.
Honor.
Betrayal.
Love.
Hatred.
Emptiness.
Vengeance.
Whispers of wishes.
Intention of billions.
As does the daemons wrath fly on the wings of warp dust.
So too does the immortal soul of the indomitable human spirit.
Stern’s Powers May actually be something even more powerful than mere faith. She is the vessel for hundreds of souls United. This is very similar to the origins of one other entity, the God Emperor himself. Smaller in scale yes, but he was created by the combination of thousands of psykers United into one soul, and one body.
Therefore, it may be possible that Stern is a light “like the Warp but not of it” because her powers are the same type as the Emperor’s
Sooooooo.... Is the emperor getting hitched?
"Faith, holds us togeather," said a man from Montana.
Biomancy, Divination, Pyromancy, Telekinesis, and Telepathy... and then there’s Witchcraft!
Or is it Warpcraft?
Praise me god damn it!
But Man Emperor of Mankind I thought u said that u did not want to be known as a God?
Shouldnt it be "Praise me, Me damnit!"
When will you return😭
Death to the literally false emperor!
😱😱😱😱😱
With Roboute Guiliman being pronounced as the savior of the Imperium, granted time, is likely that we could see a benevolent presence of the 13th primarch manifest in the warp?
Well his brother might have became a "God of the Raptors" if you will but out of Fear.
Are you trying to start an Imperium Tribus? Please report to the local Inquisitor for re-education.
Yes. It will be a giant magic Papa Smurf.
@Iron Hands Terminator Wait what? I thought Corax ran away into the eye of terror. And people keep telling me that Vulkan is dead. And what is this engine of woes? I only read about it briefly and all I know that it is a set of 3. The Lion met the ouroboros? Don't quote me on that. All I remember is that the one with the Lion can help warp travel be safer.
Thomas Yap What he is talking about is the series on youtube named “If the Emperor had a Text to Speech Device” made by Alfabusa , it’s extremely hilarious and talks a bit about the lore as well but in a “funnier” way. One of the episodes mentions Corax being trapped in the Engine of Woes (It’s basically just a Electric Car from today) by Vulcan. ruclips.net/video/XRuWCgyDBQo/видео.html I recommend you watch from episode 1 to actually get an idea of what’s happening but if you click on the link here, head to 13:49 and watch from there.
Here is another theory question that is connected to this. Are the C'than using the same power as Orks&Faith? Since they can do monumental feats of "magic" yet have no connection with the warp what so ever?
Mah Face is Mah shield
Mah Face is Mah Pork Chop
Mah face is Mah Exterminatus Button
Mah Hair is Mah Sword
3:40 - (points in the general direction of Chaos worshippers) HERETICS!!! (gets out of the way as the Sisters of Battle charge at the heretics) | 6:53 - (monotone) All hail Big Papa Ultrasmurf! | 8:55 - She should've been f****d against one of those. | 9:50 - Zagdakka was capable of taking down a Reaver Titan with his powers. | 10:50 - Blue is lucky, they miss more. Green is best, as it's an Ork colour. Purple is sneaky...you've never seen a purple Ork. Black is dead hard and white is the colour of death. | 11:40 - The Imperial Fists won't like that...
*THE EMPEROR PROTECTS*
And loaded boltgun never hurts
makes me think how do black templars not manifest faith like this? i know most astartes dont worship the emperor as a god but the black templars are clearly an exception
There are other chapters that worship the Emperor as a god..
Wait. The emperor is made of 1000s of souls. Stern is made of 700 souls. She is the same type of creature as the emperor on a smaller scale.
A paddle size
No, not even close,Stern is made of 700 normal human souls with no psychic powers while the Emperor was born of the most powerfull and wise shamans of Terra which were much MUCH more powerfull than a normal human. So no if i were so simple as to fusse 1000 normal souls to create Emperor 2.0 then they would have done it but if they attempted to somehow make another beign similar to the Emperor their souls would be eaten in the warp before they merge [the shamans had the power to defend themselves unlike normal humans,since then the warp became more chaotic though so i might be worse]
The chaos gods got aggitated around the medievil so the shamans were gud
HERETIC
Aint that redcon? Or did I loose track with what's official or not? The exact origin of the new man is now not official is it? But we know 10000 psykers are sacrificed to supply Big E every day. No Stern or wannabe emperor could compete with gathering so many souls for sure
Great Guilliman VO artist. Would’ve never have pegged his accent as American. 🤠
I always imagined Rogal with an American accent
@@MrLolguy93 Well we all know how Rogal Sounds like.
I pictured Guillimen with a European accent since he is based on the Romans.
What do you think will happen if the Emperor healed and the webway sealed only for 1 millenium.
i like the idea of it being a psychic ability that doesn't draw power from the warp but from the emperor himself
*Praise the Emperor*
Praise be to the Man-Emperor of Mankind!
Perhaps for another vid you could theorize the link between the silent king and the tyranids, what did he see beyond inbetween galaxies?
Something something, warp stuff something Lorgar.
Love your stuff as always you spooky mech dino.
Awesome work Remleiz
"An open mind is like a fortress with its gate unbarred and unguarded"
Bit of a tangent, I know, but what this reminds me of most is actually Dungeons and Dragons lore (at least, old DnD lore). I’m fairly certain I remember reading that, for the purposes of channeling a deity’s power, the efficacy of certain items or talismans is directly affected by the faith of the person attempting to use the item. For example, your average farmer attempting to ward off a vampire with a god’s symbol might not do anything more than give the vampire a bit of mild indigestion; on the other hand, a cleric of that god, someone who has devoted their life to the service of that god, could easily reduce a vampire to ashes simply by brandishing their god’s symbol.
It could be that 40k works by a similar sort of “logic”. Your average guardsman may well believe in the Emperor, but is pretty much guaranteed to become food, a trophy, a sex toy or all 3 for any daemons he comes across. Then there are the Sisters of Battle, who have been pretty much indoctrinated into the Imperial Cult from early childhood and base their whole mentality around faith in the Emperor. And while the Sisters still have some fairly humiliating deaths dealt to them by minions of the Chaos Gods, they’re also able to achieve things that could be classified as “bullshit” through no power other than belief. And when you combine psychic powers with even greater levels of faith, you get “OP, PLZ NERF” types of stuff, like Grey Knights being able to make daemons feel actual pain just by being near them.
Waaaaghh energy can be effected by Nulls. I believe that Faith as much more concentrated psykic energy is harder to Null. Nulls can be effected by a stronger psyker. this happened in the Eisenhorn and Ravenor books. Faith might just be harder to Null out.
How much stronger does the psyker have to be? At the end of the Terran Crusade, sisters of silence nullified Magnus himself
They made him weaker but didn't cancel him out as he was ridiculously power full. I kinda think of it like water. The null has a 3D Aura. If you shoot into water bullets will stop with in the foot or inches of the surface. The more powerful the gun the farther it'll reach before it stops. As for the Psyker itself, it's like firing a gun under water the longer it's in the aura the more it'll stop functioning. The crappier the gun the faster it stops. The Atlas Infernal had a Great(!) bit with a Omega -x2 Null. It made G.Knight heads go pop and dissolved a Lord of Change!
A, likely heretical, data point to consider in addition to the Ork whaaag, which both is and isn't psychic in nature. Is the web way, which is neither the materiam, or immateriam, yet has traits of both.
Perhaps there exist a thin quasi-materiam between the materiam and the immateriam that can be harnessed like, and/or though, the immateriam yet acts as if of the materiam, and doesn't require psykers only enough will, individual or collective?
That or the Orks have an innately easier time using the wrap as their thoughts, hopes, wishes etc are pretty simple.
Perhaps, it certainly would be interesting if that proved to be the case. But given the nature of the Warp, I personally feel that the power of "faith" really is simply a simulacrum of Ork WAAAAAGH!!! energy. Similar in many ways, but also decidedly different for rather obvious reasons.
@@refurbishedtechpriest9076 ah but sir Inquisitor would not this Theory also help explain said WAAAGH energy as well as faith, but where as the dirty xeno need to channel it though a low level psyker, while it would seem we human, with our faith, do not?
@@James-ep2bx Not really. It's already known why the Orks possess and harness WAAAGH!!! "energy". It's something they were created with in order to fight the Necrons and their C'tan masters.
@@refurbishedtechpriest9076 but what exactly is waagh energy? Let's not overlook who created the ork, and what else they created, dose not the web way demonstrate their ability to work between the ward and the real world? And could not waaagh energy be just another example of that?
Where is the art from at 2:05 ? Please
Faith is both a blessing and curse
Hey Dorn, did you get a cool cybernetic hand since the Pain glove insistent? I sent your Sons some gear and supplies.
You can accomplish things that would otherwise be impossible, however you have no actual ability to control when it manifests or in what form it appears.
Like a heretic looking down the barrel of a bolter held by a beautiful Adeptus Sororitas about to shoot them?
Did a revelation bring you to this conclusion Lord Adornable?
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-Only for the loyal, my brother.....
In his name I serve the Guard and in the same name I shall live.
Thank you Inquisitor for this video and The Emperor protects. =][=
@Iron Hands Terminator coming from a Son of Ferrus Manus that is an honor. I should send you guys some supplies sometime, I helped out your loyal cousins before.
@Iron Hands Terminator will you return the favor and make things for me and my crew?
Hmm... that description of sorcery seems... a little lacking. Yeah, making pacts with daemons is definitely a favorite past-time of truly corrupted chaos sorcerers... but Thousand Sons sorcerers were practicing magic far before the realization that entities within the warp were sentient. And, even afterwards, used sorceries in such a way that often ignored daemonic powers. Mostly, sorcery (at least looking at the early Ahriman books), seems to involve the usage of ritual, symbolism, focus, and concentration in very specific ways to manipulate psychic and warp energies to a specific end. This could involve using artifacts as focii, carving complex symbols, or even adjusting one's own heartbeat to a specific beat in order to make the effect become reality.
Wait, the *Black Templars* ally with Chaos Marines (brief as it may be) to fight against Orks, rather then stand against both Armies at once? What is this Madness, that made these Guys make a pragmatic Decision?! This ist even weirder than the Blood Angels and Necrons allying against Tyranids and then not even stabbing each other in the Back afterwards.
Hope - Wishful thinking while doing nothing
Faith - Actions being taken while devoting your wishes to certain individual.
Here is the irony of the God Emperor; He despite all his power, is interred on his throne in an ever dying state. He was the most powerful human Psyker know to man. A huge presence in the Warp. He was interred to power a beacon in the warp. He may or may not be a perpetual. Faith has power to manifest in the Warp. So the Faith of Mankind affects his power within the Warp. He is a Warp God, with a dying mortal vessel.
He became a living Warp God in the end.
So one has to ask what that actually means for him. Why doesn’t he shed his Mortal vessel? Is in to much pain to maintain his sanity? Is he a perpetual who can’t actually die? Is he trapped? Does the vessel anchor an restrict him from using humanities Faith like the other Warp Gods? What’s he waiting for if he is still aware? Is it because this isn’t the victory he wanted? Because he would rather have humanity overcome extraneous negativities that manifest to rule them?
He undoubtedly has enough power to ascend and rival some other entities. That’s what the Aeldari lore illustrates. That with enough psychic beings, with enough psychic presence, it manifests its essence. Slasnesh. All the others. The Aeldari Gods who were eaten, and the few left in existence.
The theme seems to be that the collective unconsciousness of any group of consciousnesses manifest and rise up to enslave the group. And it feedsback into them, they manifest because of the essence of mankind, and then in turn cause more of that same thing in mankind again, strengthening them. Bondage to your faults. To your… dare I say it? Sin.
And when you consider the state of mankind and the powers that invisible immaterial things like shared ideas and consciousnesses have… Seems pretty great as an analog to explore what ails in actuality. The weight of the things that exist only in the minds of men. Individually, and as a whole.
The concept you are trying to clarify here is actually already formulated since XIX century and by the way is also well known to at least some of the 40K universe creators. It is the concept of egregors and egregorial magic. And while Sororitas miracles and orcs's reality-bending waargh are good examples you miss one of the most well known ones in the empire itself. The machine spirits, that are constantly worshiped, in the common case - practically independently of worshiping the emperor actually do work and eventually turnin simple devices into relics with characteristics, that while having no reasonable explanation, reflect the wishes of their users (and in some more advanced cases - even manifest will to follow them). Of cause relics, powered by the Imperial egregor are much more potent, but also unique and surely more energy and focus consuming, while simple guard lasguns used by generations of soldiers to fight orks will be irrationally effective when used against orks for a reasonable amount of time on their own.
Dutch was wiser than we could’ve ever imagined.
The powers of faith are indeed confusing and unique. Since Chaos followers do not display the same abilities, nor to such a severe degree with first exposing themselves to raw warpstuff or evil warp trinkets. The Emperor shows a clear role in all of this, even of he is not the direct cause. It seems more like the Emperor's fragments and powers are responding to the presence of human faith in the warp calling out to him.
why do i feel that the black templars and the sisters of silence get along like a heretic strapped to a pyre on fire.
Faith is the belief of things unseen, with the smallest amount of faith on could say to a mountain be ye removed and it will be done.
The emperor is a perpetual. Meaning would he die he'd be reborn. The emperor the imperial creed worships is a warp entity. The emperor never wanted to be worshipped as a god, that was lorgar's fall. So don't praise the emperor brothers. Believe in his return. The emperor protects.
I think, at its most basic and stripped down form, faith is a convicted hope. Hope can be an emotion, but it is one that cannot be broken or tempted. One can have hope but also despair simultaneously.
Well done as ever
What do I think?
*Blesses Astartes helmet, puts it on and turns on the vox caster* FOR THE EMPEROR!
I'm new to the lore of warhammer 40k. What's happening now?
Best go to ITEHATTSD, 1d4chan, and, of course, this channel
There are some great 40k For Newcomers videos on this channel :) I'd stay away from 1d4chan until you know the lore because there's a lot of fan-made material on there too to muddy the waters.
I dare say I heard Arch and his little buddy Kyle throwing some shade on you in a livestream earlier 40k theories keep up the good work!
John Galt got something against the great bridge god?
I mean, Wagh is in itself pretty much a form of faith, isn't it? There's nothing rational that makes orky tek work, it's just their total trust in the fact it works that keeps it functional. I think that's pretty much the definition of faith right there.
Given the events of the Pariah Nexus, you should probably revisit this one.
Great video 40k Theories
Maybe the difference is that "Faith" comes from within, from the person's own soul, and so isn't therefore affected by disconnection from the Warp. Intense faith could create a localized personal warp bubble around them.
How would this theory work with Saint Celestine? Because I wasn't convinced by the theory that she was a daemon. If the collective consciousness of the Aeldari can manifest in the birth of a god like Ynnead, couldn't something similar be happening with mankind? And, if so, would this have to be related to the emporer or could it be something else like the Star Child?
Faith *should* still be stopped by psychic null fields, it is calling on whatever is forming in the warp as a result of Emperor worship. This seems a serious lore contradiction they written in, or it is not the Emperor but something truly divine and not of the warp which has decided to act in response this worship of the Emperor (which seems odd).
Phil Kelly has a really good bit about faith on the world of the Ultramarines section of the Ultramarines movie.
Fate is playing templin institute.0.
suggestion: commonalities between the emperor and the celestials of the tau.
both
came seemingly out of know where
have uncommonly strong warp presence for their species
unified their people
then began building an intergalactic empire
both deny the existence of magic despite(seemingly in the tau's case) knowing of demon and encourage belief in science and reason.
Theory just as there are gods of chaos there is(are) god(s) of order that created both the emperor and celestials. the emperor was a symbiotic fusion and developed a humanistic bent and couldn't separate out. having learned the danger of putting all its(their) eggs in one basket, and having lost a great deal of it's power it tried again influencing multiple beings rather then fusing the equivalent of several greater daemons with one very powerful individual.
nonimport ante
Ethereals.
The Tau genuinely don’t get Chaos. The Emperor did.
Faith powers could also be granted by an aspect of the Emperor's soul within the warp that is growing in power but as yet disconnected with the Emperor himself. It's even possible that the Horus Heresy was part of a plan to do this to garner more power so as to be able to stand up to the combined might of Chaos.
Enlightening as always
THE ALLFATHER PROTECTS!!!!!!
How do you explain the instance in False Gods (I think it is) where the remembrancer was able to fend off the daemon within the archives upon Horus' flagship before the heresy even began? While yes the crusade had been bringing more believers into the fledgling imperial cult during the crusade, it was actively persecuted and the emperor wasn't yet interred into the golden throne yet. Or does this just qualify in the mysterious psychic category that isn't a psychic category portion?
The "mind control" abilities of tau ethereals.
The ork waaaaagggh
And the human faith.
These all seem to be manifestations of a similar phenomena that exists seperate from the warp. Perhaps it is manifested in a "sub-warp"? (Like "in-between" the warp and reality? Being both part of neither yet intertwined with it at the same time?).
Would be damn cool. Having a waaagghh would make humans super OP and generally give them a bit more hope (hey... It can't be all grimdark. Sometimes we need a win)
Surprising that you never mentioned Keeler... Thought that would be the first person you mentioned
It's me. I have to move really fast though.
got any theories about Mandrakes?
As I was watching this, I came up with a theory myself. What if The Emperor is fully aware of the power of the Orks? And what if that power exists within all living things in the 40k universe? And that's the purpose of The Imperial Cult. To give The Emperor enough power to return to physical form and walk amongst humanity again to (hopefully) save it from the Xenos menace? Just a thought.
One thing just crossed my mind. What if humans were created by the old ones, as a attempt to create something between the orks and the eldars? A type a creature that could harness the power similar to the waaargh the orks have, but with more control over their psychic powers, like the eldars. When you think about it, it makes sense when you realize that the horus heresy would, according to the cabbal, leading to the extinction of mankind if Horus had won. Why the Chaos Gods would want mankind's death, their main source of "food"? Unless they saw that mankind could one day hold the power to change even the warp with their faith, to lead to the death of the ruinous powers.
Well humankind is also more inteligent and responsible than Eldars and Orks, so we cloud been forgotten experiment of Old Ones.
I assume that Faith draws its power from one's own soul or Souls that inhabit them so it doesn't have that massive raw energy you get from the warp but it's safer and less corruptible since you get it from literally yourself
I don't think faith is different than psychic power. But rather there is a difference in the technique between disciplines. Also Stern sounds like she is her own private warp field. So unless the blank can affect her self contained field they may not be able to stop her powers. Literally her power does not steam from the warp that surrounds her, as it is for most, but a phychic field that is within her and foreign to the outside warp.
2:04 I want the name of this
"colleague". NOW!
Faith is my shield.
Hate is my sword.
Contempt is my armor.
Thanks for watching-nga
I see it like this..
Every human has at least a tiny amount of psychic power.
Trillions of inconceivably small photons.
Faith in the Emperor coalesces this power and focuses it like a lens to burn away the enemies of Mankind.
Willpower, minds, and souls seem linked. Perhaps they are different aspects of the immaterium, which seems to be the embodiment of that what cannot be touched.
The misunderstanding of the difference between the Emperor of Humankind, human (!!!) perpetual and psyker, and the warp entity (!!!) known as the god emperor runs deep...
I think this is a point of strong contention.
1) nothing would stop the actual emperor from absorbing the energy
2) nothing stops the emperor from simply directing the warp energy where it needs to go.
3) The same arguments can be made for the child of light. The prayers might be going there
4) the idea of a human pseudo-waagh that could be accidentally channeled by certain warp sensitives is highly likely.
I get the argument that they are praying to the "idea of an emperor" in their heads, but they are also highly aware of where (in a physical, litteral sence) that emperor is.
Simply visualising him there on his golden throne on terra while they pray might be all the direction that is needed for the warp energy to go there.
Also, the child of light (consisting only of love) litterally perfectly fits the "idea" they have in their head. It is very likely the energy goes there.
Name of the intro song
I've always wondered about this, but presumably even sisters make use of navigators & astropaths.
Brillient 👍🏻😊
Thanks for the Beast spoilers.
Wait...Black Templars agreeing to a truce with Astartes of a traitor legion? I'm questioning the validity of that particular novel. It reeks of HERESY!
Aeldari are genetically engineered species.
Be cool if they bring this idea for the sisters of battle codex
I think the emperor will one day awaken as slanesh did forming a counter point to the warp and bringing balance to the galaxy.
Do the have gangsta rap in the warp?
Yall need some chaos to show you the way
if we consider the warp and the use of psychic power to be dark energy, then perhaps faith is a form of light energy.
and just as the chaos gods are the masters and representation of the warp, then perhaps the Emperor is to the light as the chaos gods are to the dark.
Crackpot idea: what if faith is the reason why it was foresaw that if the emperor won the Horus heresy, chaos would consume the galaxy. Without religion, or some form of supernatural faith, humanity would have only normal psykers, who utilize warp energy, and would have to wholly rely on them for anything warp-based. Whereas, if the emperor lost completely, faiths in other religions could take root, producing the effects of faith that do not rely on warp energies.
Neat idea, but for some reason my train of thought doesn't end up making the same conclusions when I think about that kinda situation. Respectfully disagree.
Reupload because of copyright or lore update?
Lore update and general remaster (cleaner audio etc)
I imagine that they are impowered by the energies if the warp contained within the human webway project
This background chanting. I must find.