Henry, Micah & Carra have powerful discussion on how football must tackle racism
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- Опубликовано: 9 июн 2023
- Thierry Henry, Micah Richards and Jamie Carragher discuss how football must tackle racism and why the sport needs more diversity in senior positions.
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"Eyes are useless when the mind is blind" Thiery casually dropping wisdom
Filosoof aan het werk❤
Philosophy luv it❤
I want that on a shirt
Facts
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Respect to CBS for letting them speak openly, unfiltered
why should it be some thing special or unusual ? why treat is as such ?
@@asgard5968 Because it rarely gets televised. Outta here with that mentality, talking about important issues is necessary
@@tobejiru Are you joking ? Racism and the topic is all over the media non stop and has been for years.
Perhaps if people actually stopped talking non stop and trying to be clever about it and amplifying it, we might get some balance.
Talking on and on about something, does not solve it at the end of the day, it only keeps it alive. What solves it, is education about peoples thoughts and beliefs, which is much deeper and more complex than any nonsense that comes out of media celebrities.
One incident of one fan, is always amplified 1000fold, as if it is typical with everyone, the topic is well over talked about, above and beyond the reality. Perhaps just shut up talking about it, will help.
@@tobejiru ruclips.net/video/9fvin5xIoUk/видео.html
Pursuing the contents of your channel, I'd say that it is not surprising you make such a silly comment.
@@asgard5968 Yes, judge a person from their uploads from 7 years ago. Imagine arguing against morals LMAO football fans I swear
Mr. Thierry Henry this is the best response I’ve seen from anyone in this current climate when it comes to racism. Absolutely spot on.
Mind Begs the Question:
Anti Semitism - Sternly dealt with
Racism,Islamophobia - if not Equally Sternly dealt with
Equality,Elitist?
Thierry Henry a legend❤❤
He said absolutely nothing. He cried and had no solutions when asked.
@@shonehi546tim9 Cause there is no solution. This will never stop.
✊🏽💎✊🏽 my Brudda Aaron
It's interesting that Thierry mentioned the "I'm not black, I don't know what it means" response, because honestly that's something I could see myself saying. Over the last few years, it's felt like you can get shunned for offering your opinion on a group that you're not part of, i.e. "You're not black, you don't understand", but I guess what Thierry is saying is that there's a middle ground. Don't try to dominate the conversation, but still get involved. Wise words that I'll personally try to learn from.
Me as well!
It's crazy to think some people believe that a difference in ethnicity somehow prevents any shred of empathy.
You don't have to have lived the same life experiences of another person to at least imagine and feel what it might have been like for them.
very intelligent man. the empathy example was fantastic from henry.
Thierry is a good man, dropping powerful knowledge.
Imagine what it’s like at lower levels in some countries!
like those non western countries ?
@@XgiannettoX what's western? Nigeria is west of France.
@Niche research 😂
@Niche research Japan, South Korea, the uae say hello
its even harsher and more open, cause as Henry mentioned, there is no representation, there is none in the ranks higher than us, to empathize with us, we are taught to live with it and try to forget. People forget we are humans too, like Henry says; Lukaku and Vini are superstars, the whole world watches and sees it. They HAVE to take actions, just to please a "status quo", there is no pressure from outside in the lower levels.
Thats why Henry said he would like to know what others think, cause if u feel like the only one who wants to fight and your teammates arent on the same page. Youll feel outcasted.
Its the ability to recognize and empathize, actually step up for someone, put your heart on the line and in the eye of the storm and show the people its not right. Anyone can post a picture or wear a shirt, it means nothing.
Ive been there, the way they adress black people in dressings rooms, even your own teammates, it shows you how they actually think about people that look like you. You also know, one day youre the greatest, the next time u could be in the garbage, thats how much faster it goes. Hence why i quit football, u feel undermined/undervalued and underrespected, even when it comes to your wages compared to others.
Let me remind you, not so long ago "black" keepers werent even a thing, now we have Onana and a couple years back Mendy. Its the boxes, way of seeing us and thinking about us that def still exist
U almost had/have to play a role, in order to get in, to belong.
And honestly life is a competition, as long as "white" people are eating and upgrading, they wont care, they still you as competition, but thats one "less" race for them to worry about, thats how they see it.
Racism is a societal and systematic problem, football is a huge part of many cultures aswel, almost a mirror. From young to old, poor to rich.
Ask any black player, theyve all experienced it starting from a very young age.
And if everyone is still too busy with their own comfort, failing to empathize because of this, it will always be a huge problem.
Saka and Rashford being racially abused after their penalty misses and all u read is "they have gotten back to form, they fought back".... What is this stupid statement? There is no fight back, you shouldnt be abusing someone in the first place. So are we now gonna use this as motivation to upgrade and sush haters?
No, it says alot about the way communities/countries think about certain groups of people.
Specially in the lower ranks...
'Are we only good to entertain'?
"Eyes are useless when the mind is blind"
I love that Jamie participated in this difficult conversation. We need more like this! 👏🏾
We all need great allies
Jamie also participated in wearing T-shirts supporting Suarez in his racism against Patrice Evra. Don’t let Jamie fool you, he fully supported racism when it suited him and he spits at children.
@@slashssnakepit4444he apologised, everyone makes mistakes, racism can be cured
@@slashssnakepit4444Wish we could look into your life so we could all mention the mistakes you’ve made in life many years ago in a RUclips comments section.
More clowns ???🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
These 4 need an Emmy honestly quality group love them
henry talking that real .much respect
Respect to Thierry.
Talking about racism will not solve racism, action will solve the problem.
We love these open and honest discussions! Kudos CBS 🍻
Its a difficult but necessary discussion. I appreciate the depth of this particular exchange.
Titi is the REAL DEAL!!! May we all learn from his wisdom, change HAS to happen. This is beyond incredible how the abuse continues…
“Am I only good to entertain?” Heavyyy words right there but damn it hits hard
Respect to TH & CBS for the freedom to discuss 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
All points are valid here. But this is not just a Football problem this is a society issue in multiple countries
But Football can be an example in showing how u go all way with consequent actions. Right now a lot of football organisations just talk but don't really do something. Especially in Italy and Spain
Good Evening...this discussion was ABSOLUTELY 'spot on '...&I can personally say I experienced this at a young age of 13years old!!!Nothing has changed!!!
A leader Mr. Henry is. Hoping even more the USMNT give him that first head gig. Will be his first of many
I love the platform CBS gave Thierry to talk about this. That’s huge
King of Arsenal spoke with much passion.
“ are we only good to entertain?” 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
Empathy. Thank you Thierry!
I love Henry’s point about empathy.
TITI becoming more of a legend with these points off the pitch...The words are powerful.
Titi you’re even more than a statue after this. Love you legend!
Titi is indeed the king..Great job Legend without forgetting the entire crew
Henry dropping 100% facts 🔥
Excellent discussion - Thierry Henry is brilliant here!
Empathy is only one aspect. People listen really well when you touch their MONEY. Forget fining clubs hit up the major sponsors. When enough consumers of Heineken, Mastercard and Pepsi start pouring pressure on them by not consuming their products and services unless something is done about this, then that pressure will shift to UEFA. UEFA WILL ANSWER THE PHONE when one or more of those big sponsors call them because they themselves are feeling the pinch. Spread the pain around. If the VICTIMS are uncomfortable, then EVERYONE needs to be uncomfortable until this changes.
Thiery is a born leader of humanity ❤💯
Facts, Thierry, Facts.. Salute my brother 💯🙌
Today I feel Tierry Henry
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‘Are we only good to entertain?’ - Thierry ‘Titi’ Henry
Henry would make a great manager. His analysis is always good.
This Lukaku yellow then red Card still drives ne crazy. And the Media told you over the years, he's hard to handle. Of course he's hard to handle, as a true intelligent man of honor in a disgusting world.
Wow. Amazing how CBS allows open discussion with no bias unlike Sky, BT and BBC. British media can learn a thing or two from CBS. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Henry is a legend
Henry, the invincible GOAT
Henry dropping legendary wisdom
What a Great Channel.
King Henry, always wise 👑
Thierry is speaking sense
(Carrying on) Over 45years ago !!!!
'are we only good to entertain?' Thierry is like a knife.
Respect!!!
Carragher with his suarez t shirt on under the shirt 😂
Well said Titi
God bless
Football can't tackle racism. It's not its responsibility. That's society's job. No matter how many banners, kneelings, armbands and what not you do, if there are social problems, none of those issues will be solved
It’s a place to start though.. Good conversations.
The lack of empathy is probably what got most of the top executives where they are today, I don’t see them changing.
Titi 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Something's will never change.-Tupac Shakur-
Vini leaving la liga & citing racism as the racism would cause a shockwave and MAYBE spark a real change (in football stadiums, the culture of Spain will still be as it is). Unfortunately I don't think he'd have the balls to do it. He seems comfortable at Madrid
lol, Leave la liga for what? All leagues suffer from this, some more than others...
Also he literally dedicated his whole live to this sport, should he throw it away because of some morons? Literally non sense...
@@majormononoke8958 low IQ response. YES there's racism everywhere, but it's apparent that it's the worst in Italy & Spain out of all the top 5 leagues. Leaving Madrid is not throwing his life away, stop being dramatic. He'd see a lot of success if he went to City for example
Thierry Henry spitting facts. He's right. SADLY nothing has changed.
Same debate as 4 months
What is back ground song ?
Marshmallow friends
I am a black man, I was having a coffee in Keswick some years back i went to a friend's wedding. Half way through my coffee I started hearing some mumbling behind me and slowly the voice got louder and louder. A gentleman kept saying "You don't belong here" eventually he started shouting and soon he was standing in front of me berating me. Everyone kept silent and acted like nothing was happening, not even the shop staff did anything. I stood up calmly paid for my coffee and left. But i will never forget how that made me feel, angry and ashamed. But i know if i reacted in any way during that incident than i would be labeled the aggressor. I travel a lot and It happens all over Europe, sometimes it's not so blatant other times it's in the small things. It's just exhausting. Racism is mentally and emotionally draining thing to go through and it's honestly so heard to explain just how terrible it feels to be judged as less simply based on the color of your skin.
Exactly. You retaliate and all of a sudden you're painted as the aggressor. But you do nothing, then nobody does anything to help. Our hands are tied when it comes to racial abuse.
These communities should start from themselves. Once they stop being racist it's more likely that others will stop being racist to them.
lol, kind of hard when you are a outsider comming into the community...
Titi is spitting
Based Thierry
Thierry saying stop asking what I think. Kate, Thierry what do you think
Carragher rather silent
Agreed with everything apart from the owner part. It has nothing to do with race all to do money. Plenty of Diversity in ownership. Inters owner is Asian and man city is Arab.
This is about Spanish football!
Watch 3:43 again he’s talking about the whole game
Kate Abdo❤
no live stream of the game? BT sport streams the final for free .
Because it was on BT sport durrrr 😒
Unfortunately issues such as racism is always going to be ther where politics governs society. How as equality for certain minorities get the focus when equality should apply for all. Great response from Henry especially in context of our beloved sport. This panel is example of how we can live side by side and have loght hearted conversations and relationships thats why it works and is so praises by everyone i see in comments throughout the season with this panel. No colour no bias and most of all no ego.. just pure human connection
It’s only in some countries in footy. Eastern Europe Spain and Italy the worst.
3:33
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I feel it for my beautiful black people...
Thierry Henry speaking FAXXXX
Henry is making so many excellent points. However, I must entirely fair here. Thierry Henry got jobs in management, he was given a golden opportunity to do well in management, he completely and utterly failed at Monaco, he fell out with his squad within the first week.
He went to Montreal to manage, if he was not Thierry Henry, he certainly would not have lasted 3 years.
He can complain about it now and insinuate racism prevents him from finding employment, but a 20% win rate says it all.
He has also made it very clear from his employment history, he has a desire to manage in the French language, this limits his clubs even further.
that's the point what about others ?
The management point was not conveying that he can't get opportunities. It's that the average black person will not get a fair opportunity because of racism. It might not be on purpose, but most people have unconscious biases.
I think you missed the point though but I see other replies are trying to help with that
This is why points deduction or no supporters/supporter ban is bad
Rival fans, hooligans and bad element of society can use it to hurt the club. Also anyone who want financially hurt the club, city and owners could do it as well.
These type of punishments are what are called extreme judgement that always affect negatively.
Only the community can stop it. It's impossible that majority of the people are racist. So what the 'community' should do, is that they should identify the racists individually and punish them individually. It's very difficult thing to do but the right way to do it
Have you ever been to a match before? Its not easy for actual fans to get tickets, let alone 'bad elements'. Also, it'll be clear who these bad elements really support once the police arrest and investigate them.
Simply put, most players & managers are cowards. Ancelotti should've 100% pulled his team off after the Vini incident. Don't ask Vini what he wants to do, he'll obviously not want to be the reason for the game ending. Make the decision as a manager or captain!!!!
Don't ask me ask my brother's and sisters because they have empathy
Its sad to see the seeming increasing backlash against the fight for genuine equality.
ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?!
Footballers need to wake up. Take a look at how nfl and nba players move.
Nfl and nba are even worse than football
As a white Irish guy I totally agree with them
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He is speaking about « having your own Testimony » What is your witnessing !! What are you gonna do ?? Always the same question.
Like in the Torah or the Bible « Who will witnessing about who they are? »Because you only can witnessing about what you are made of 😊
Well done Thierry !!! We all are on the pitch !!
And an old movie with Denzel Washington in 2002 « John Q » the wife of John in the phone is yelling on him because they are victim of an injustice. Here is her « question » her « command » toward her husband : « John, What are you gonna do ?? Do something !!! »❤
Mind Begs the Question:
Anti Semitism - Sternly dealt with
Racism,Islamophobia - if not Equally Sternly dealt with
Equality,Elitist?
The whole team should walk off the pitch during the game! Or maybe both teams!
I love racism it gives me the chance to school some folk about the true dwellers of the earth.
Man just start punishing teams and fans whether it be money or points or we'll keep having this useless discussion about this needs to stop
Under carraghers suit is a Luis Suarez T-shirt 😄
Football reflects society..... The only way to change it is through education of kids from parents, schools, media, social media..... But also.... People in business often hire people from the same background, culture etc... Its a natural shortcut because they may have things in common... I think its normal that a japanese company would be majority japanese.... An Indian company may be majority Indian... Not always.... But you would expect a tendancy towards that.... Football ceo, manager positions is the same...
lol, how most players are foreigners... By that standard most managers should come from that player base but they dont...While teams in africa. etc. are dominated by white managers...
The racial abuse is coming from a minority of the fans, so I personally think its down to the surrounding fans to put a stop to it.
Theres no point in points deductions because that wont stop those individual fans coming back and doing the same. Banning fans then isnt fair on other fans and also on the players/club not playing in the right atmosphere. If an official is racist, theres microphones to capture that and it can be dealt with. If other players are racist then you can impose individual fines and bans. But as most of these racist incidents come from select fans to the players you either:
1) When purchasing a ticket you have to do it with some form of ID, then when you enter the stadium the ticket is scanned and it identifies you on their system. Then on the system on a digital blueprint/model of the seats it can recognise where your seat is. Then when an incident happens with the fans there are cameras able to identify the individual and it digitally identifies them. Then it can be reported, fined and banned from entering the stadium again. (would be effective but not a fan of this as its very dystopian/controlling).
2) Its down to the fan community to teach others how to behave and change the culture in football "hooliganism" and if someone is racist in the fans they dont stand for it and call them out.
These two black men are actually very deep
Unfortunately, there is racism everywhere but probably much less in modern football than elsewhere.
Sad thing is racism will never end. Same way sexism and every other form of discrimination. There will always be dickheads. What we have to do is be better and indentifying these people, punishing them so severly that it deters others. There name and face all over social media and informing their work place is a good start. Im sure people will think twice if it meant they would be held accountable more for their actions.
I say it AGAIN, stop segregating the fans. Football is the ONLY sport in the world where we separate fans, home & away.
The man made the same point 5 times! And the woman is still asking questions?!? Jamie too! He wanted you to state your opinions! Not ask him his!!!!!
The mouth is also useless!
Fifa and those governing football only offer Corporate style gestures; an arm band, an advert, or some ribbon.
It's about equal opportunity, not equal outcome... The cream is skimmed off the top. As soon as you enforce equal outcome, the world will be a worst place. Please understand the difference!
In terms of black coaches getting jobs. I think Vincent Kompany could change the game on that. His Burnley team look really impressive, using modern approaches to coaching, data etc… if we are to see any coach progress in this modern era of football they need to be thinking ahead of the game not with it or behind it. I really hope we have a more diverse pool of coaches for the sake of younger generations coming through.
In terms of racist fans you need several things. Strong penalties on clubs (not half hearted £10000 fines), bans on racist fans, prison sentences for racist fans (this will require lawmakers and executioners to be strong against racism which hard when many of the lawmakers are racist themselves). Footballing governing bodies need to take the lead with this. Teams with racist fans should be banned from competitions, points dropped, fans excluded etc… this should apply to national teams where a club from a country who’s fans are clearly being racist should be banned, docked points or fans banned from games.
Go strong or go home Fifa, UEFA
WARRA UCL FOR ASSNA THAT IS THIERRY😭😭😭😭
The problem will never stop until Uefa and Fifa take it seriously, which they do not. The punishments need to be severe. Deduction in points. No fans for the next 10 games. And most importantly, when a player is being racially abused, he and his whole team mates should walk off the pitch, into the shower and on the bus and go. Then the useless authorities would take it serriously. On another note, racism is everywhere and sadly always will be. I am Asian and was called a Paki every day at school by black kids. It's a worldwide problem.
I hear you Thierry. This is a bigger problem beyond football that is why stadium bans, fines etc are not working.
It should not be looked at as a national problem and not only a football problem.