Awwwwwwwwww, thank YOU so very much Miss Tess for taking the time to enlighten us on the Australian legal system in relation to Divorce settlement arrangements, parenting & schooling system. It was nothing short of fascinating and I learned a lot in general, not only about this case. Please stop by as often as you can. Perhaps we can have you on the show if you’re open to it, I would looooove that! 😃🙏🏾💛⚖️ 🇦🇺 👑🎉🎉🎉🎉⚖️
I read her comment too and thought it was kind to share and enlighten. Thanks Ms. Fumi for highlighting. That was one of the most sensible and responsible comments I've seen. I hardly ever comment on these things, but had to commend that commenter.
My own mother took my ex-partner’s side when I finally found the strength and courage to open my mouth and tell my mother about I had been going through. She sat him down, advised him not to touch my face but to continue beating where the marks will not be visible. They were in the living talking and I heard everything while sitting on the stairs. I can till remember the sorrowful tears that came out of my eyes. That was the moment I new I only have God and my children in this life. * With the Grace of God, I left him, went to University part-time for 4 years, got my degree in Child and family studies, after University worked part-time to gain experience and went back to University for 2 years got my Masters. Today, with the Mercy, love, grace and blessings of God and the people he brought into my life, I am a practicing Social Worker. All Glory be to God*
Two years ago my son and his partner split. My son wanted me to discontinue my relationship with his ex and I refused. The only side I'm taking is my grandaughter's side, and it's to my grandaughter's benefit that I have a good relationship with her mother. I hope Jamie's mother has a good relationship with Nikki. These girls need as many people as possible in their corner.
That's so nice to hear. I absolutely can not stand the grounds my ex walks on. If left to me, he's doesn't need to exist lol. But I absolutely adore my ex mother in law. Sometimes I wonder why she gave birth to an absolute piece of trash😅 but I can tell you she has fought to ensure me and him get our ish together and parent our children. Am thankful for her because if it was not for her intervention and for her putting the children first, our story would be different. But I am glad that the children now have an amazing relationship with their dad and his wider family.
@@SammySam316Didn’t you hear what her mother in law said? It’s best to stay neutral instead of taking sides except we are flies on their wall to know who’s right and who’s not. I’m on the side of their children. We have enough sick people (mentally) due to broken marriages like this. We don’t need more tbh😢
Jamie has many talents. He said he gets the girls one week and Nikki has them the next. The type of work he is accustomed to isn’t a 9-5 job. Figure it out. Divorced people/Single parents work and take care of their kids all the time. It’s doable.
This makes so much sense! He is doing the bare minimum to avoid paying child support as he views it as Nikki has won. This is why he said out of his own mouth, his mum has had to move in with him and his parents pay his rent. I also remember him saying, his Dad is having to work a lot more. (This is sad for an old man to be working so hard at his age!!) He has shifted the responsibility onto his parents!! That way he can work the bare minimum and still gets his rent paid, his mum will cook and clean for him. PARENTS, it is SO SO important that we don’t raise narcissistic children. This starts from young. Be careful about inflating their egos and doing “too much” for them. Raise them to be humble, honest and hard workers. Jamie’s parents have raised a narcissist and still in their old age are having to pay for his ways. They are literally his “flying monkeys” and he uses them when it feels fit to him. They literally have NO IDEA! Wow! I’m mindblown. Thanks to the person who left the long comment in the video, it opened my eyes and I’ve learned even so much more about humans and narcs in general. And thanks Fumi for another amazing vid!! ❤
It’s pathetic! A grown man that doesn’t need to worry about childcare 24 hours a day. Use that free time to edit videos for businesses, get back into music editing, host editing workshops and RUclipsr masterclasses. He doesn’t want to pay Nikki so he goes down the conceited route.
So he is cutting off his nose to spite his face. That makes a whole lot of sense. He prefers to be homeless and a bum than to pay child support. That's so clever. Who thought of that plan?
In the vlogs you could see that Jamie's mom and Nikki were the ones taking care of the kids. Everyone else was working hard and Jamie was constantly out.
I have been there. My ex husband didn't want our friends and family to see him as the bad guy so during the last 8 months we were together he would walk past me when we with other people and whisper things like wow you've gained weight or that outfit should have stayed in the store. Then he'd hurry away as it registered and I'd get upset and then he'd tell them - see, she's a light switch. One minute its all fine and like a switch she changes, what can I do. It was years later that a gf ran into him and saw him for who became and she called to apologize to me. He wanted me to be the one to file for divorce so he wouldn't look bad and be found out for cheating.
Everyone has the propensity to be violent when pushed or provoked. I don't know why some folks are acting like Nikki just be out here slapping everybody. If she is doing that, then he needed to seek fully custody of the kids like yesterday. My ex-boyfriend got these hands after he kept taunting and provoking me after I repeatedly asked him to leave me alone. I just saw red and got to pounding on him. And guess what, he left me alone after that. Did I feel good about it? No, but it happened. We're not perfect. I just hope they both get some healing for the sake of the children.
I can never forget years back when my ex would beat & punish me to his amusement; got to the point when I was pushed to the wall & retaliated defending myself!!…me retaliating surprised him & he gave me the beating of my life then started telling his family that I punched him!! I walked out of the marriage at the end!!!🥹🥹🥹🥹
“Nikki had just been ontop of me punching me because I had told her that I wouldn't speak to her until we coudl have a calm conversation. Our counselor had told me we needed to take a 2 week break from talking until things calmed down. Nikki was furious I was asking for 2 weeks space from talking to her about anything other than the kids and showed up at the house demanding I talk to her which I refused” This is why he started recording. Justify her behaviour. Why is she coming to his house and refusing his request? Why is she hitting him in front of his mother and their kid? What made her drive all the way over to his house to do that? Wow Jamie must have so much power.
Sorry but there's no excuse to be physical with anyone unless it's self defense. If you get to that point YOU need to leave. That's never OK to do no matter if you think so or not. And even you say our ex provoked you like you have no control over yourself. Take some damn responsibility people for your own behavior.
He had no regard for the children, a real man would have spoken to the children and worry about their emotions but rather had to attend his mother. He staged this for his own benefit he thought but hey you know what this recording is evidence against himself as it will come back to bite him.
Jamie is the Narcissist period. I wouldnt believe everything the mother inlaw says as she knew well her son was recording and they both must have discussed. She will definitely take the side of her son. She tried to cheat on him, how? He was intentional with the words he dropped. He wants the public coming for Nikki, shame on him. Nikki's reaction is justified. No one blows hot for no reason period.
Nikki knows he was recording too but she didn’t care, she pushed him away with the camera but there’s other recordings where Nikki stated even worse and admitted she was abusing him. If I didn’t hear for sure they were divorced, I could certainly confirm that they both were doing that video for money and views. Mostly the videos where both family members were there seemed to me, it was consent between them to do that to both have money from views and share the money. I still think, it’s a possibility.
I have been team the KIDS from the very beginning because they are the real victims in the mess. When Jamie said he didn’t want the kids to see this side of Nikki but went ahead and posted that awful video, he was been disingenuous in my opinion. I hope both of them heal for those beautiful babies sake
I'm really struggling to find a possible genuine motive for him posting the video? For what, what good did it do for him? For the children? Literally nothing
That made me look at him with a stank side eye!...he was wrong for that and tried to create a narrative...I've realized that a lot of times the person recording is usually toxic too!
@@SammySam316maybe you are a friend of him.because I see you every where in the comment trying to defend his behavior against the mother of his beautiful children.
Seeing the mother in law was so triggering because I've dealt with a situation where the mother has sided with her son, even when he was wrong, to the point of spreading lies about me to make me the bad person. The person that has been affected the most by that is my son, because a situation that was already tough has been made worse by the mother in law. In such situations parents need to remain neutral, unless one party is dangerous of course. You don't take your child or son/daughter in laws side. You take your grandchildren's side.
That’s why he’s the way he is. There’s a case in NC where the husband cheated & killed his pregnant wife & two small innocent children. The wife had wrote about her mother in laws passive aggression against her & the children. Like giving peanuts to her daughter although she knows she had a deadly allergy
“Nikki had just been ontop of me punching me because I had told her that I wouldn't speak to her until we coudl have a calm conversation. Our counselor had told me we needed to take a 2 week break from talking until things calmed down. Nikki was furious I was asking for 2 weeks space from talking to her about anything other than the kids and showed up at the house demanding I talk to her which I refused” This is why he started recording. Justify her behaviour. Why is she coming to his house and refusing his request? Why is she hitting him in front of his mother and their kid? What made her drive all the way over to his house to do that? Wow Jamie must have so much power
I use to watch every episode. A few months after Ava was born Nikki said “I am so glad that your mom and I are friends”. That lady looks sweet but for whatever reason, she did not like Nikki. She had to win his mother over. Jamie knew what he was doing when had her there and then later she started with those iconic tears. PLZ!
Same here, my ex threatening me severally about killing me to the full knowledge of his mum. But one time I retaliated against the threat he planned with his mum and put it on record and had to use it against me. Thank God the recording got lost. Parents should always be neutral when it comes to their kid's divorce process. I have forgiven my ex but will never forgive his mum for painting me evil despite the love I showed to her.
Caught out trying to cheat on me ...he said ....not that she cheated...i watched that video and all i was left asking was what is the full story.....i hate it when people have a small part of a story as evidence and anyone trying to push the victim narrative on an online platform...smh....hope its all resolved peacefully and off the internet 😣😣😣
She cheated and they split up briefly. That is a fact. She then created a hidden account after saying she would not speak with her ex and he found it with messages coming in from the ex, and her having deleted her side of the convo. That’s what he said about her trying to cheat again. But ig that doesn’t count as cheating. I hope your partner has a secret account and is chatting people up. That’s perfectly fine huh. Not cheating :)
@@SammySam316 yes she cheated first time then was forgiven then cheated again then they divorced. You should watch and listen to comprehend not pick what you want to listen
He didn’t he said you “tried” to cheat on me in the video he took of Nikki. But 4 years later when he’s talking about the incident it changed to her actually cheating…hmm. Anyway Nikki said he was following her round calling her a psychotic slut etc before that part of the video. He only showed what he wanted us to see
My mother would be asking what are you doing recording my grandchild? To put where? And before we had this nonsense?. Please grow up. That phone should have be launched to the moon by his mother. Colluding!! and you wonder why Nikki would react in that manner. Yon need to take responsibility my back foot 😡. Separations and divorce is painful, no matter whose to blame. And a lot of times, no one is - as people fall out of love, want different things and different people in their lives. Enough of this character bashing in public Jamie. It really does you no good at all . I agree, Funmi it’s about the kids now and their parents have had their time.
Yeah. Victims need to stop trying to get evidence of the abuse. Because people clearly believe without evidence (with how many people are supporting Nikki’s abuse when she has said fuck all). Makes sense. “Nikki had just been ontop of me punching me because I had told her that I wouldn't speak to her until we coudl have a calm conversation. Our counselor had told me we needed to take a 2 week break from talking until things calmed down. Nikki was furious I was asking for 2 weeks space from talking to her about anything other than the kids and showed up at the house demanding I talk to her which I refused” This is why he started recording. Justify this. Why is she coming to his house and refusing his request? Why is she coming over to hit him in front of the kids?
Yes I’m Australian, and his recording would not be used as court because it would be seen as coercive, ie they could not prove that Nicki was not provoke moments before this video as is often done by abusers. He is playing the victim, more details will come out.
“Nikki had just been ontop of me punching me because I had told her that I wouldn't speak to her until we coudl have a calm conversation. Our counselor had told me we needed to take a 2 week break from talking until things calmed down. Nikki was furious I was asking for 2 weeks space from talking to her about anything other than the kids and showed up at the house demanding I talk to her which I refused” This is why he started recording. Justify this. Why is she coming to his house and refusing his request? Why is she hitting him in front of his mother and their kid? What made her drive all the way over to his house to do that? Wow Jamie must have so much power
And he has cameras installed in his house so he WOULD have evidence of it. He cannot post violence on youtube and he shouldn’t post a video of her punching him anyway because it’s disturbing and triggering
@@akab3648no one believes the before account that he wrote and you keep repeating! It’s one sided and paints him as the victim! He could have written anything as to why she reacted but we will not know the truth!
@@akab3648His evidence were so great that the judge allowed her to have full custody of the kids during the process of the divorce and then decided to give them shared custody. Sure she is so evil...
Jamie doesn’t care about those children. It was just a ticket to an easier life. Now he has to work for a living, and now he is using the divorce to remain relevant
It sounds line he was setting her up by triggering her. He knows how she reacts. He is calm the whole time. She is reactive through her anger. It is a shame because he is recording her. His mother just walks upstairs and he is still recording. His mom is reacting because she loves her grandchildren and that is her son. He used his mom in this mess. You see, this relationship is deeply rooted on both sides.
It is sad to me that in this age of social media to many people are recording personal stuff and posting it for the world to see. I don't understand this addiction. I find it baffling. I pray for healing in this relationship.
The mother said you need to take responsibility; she didn’t say accountability. The mother knew what they did was wrong and that is why she begins to cry. Least the mother stopped him from calling the police right then. Jamie is ready to put himself in the poor house in order to not take care of his kids. In his mind, it will make life hard for Nikki. Instead of using the lemons to make lemonade, he decides to let the lemons rot. Jamie, it’s never too late to do right. Praying for you both and your families.
I know a narcissist man when I see one, they will manipulate you to anger then film the result of what they have done for the public to see, I will always be team Nikki and if you will only know if you have encountered a narcissist man
No. He said they broke up for a bit because she cheated. Then she promised not to talk to her ex again. But she made a hidden account to talk to him. That’s what he meant by trying to cheat again. But i guess that doesn’t count as cheating right? So all good. I hope your partner creates a hidden account and talks to other ppl cuz that’s fine. Lets normalise lying to your partner and texting your exes secretly
If you tried to rob a bank does it mean you robbed a bank.because Jamie said she tried to cheat does it mean that she cheated ,talking to your ex mean you tried to cheat .maybe nikki needed to talk to someone and her ex listens but Jamie wanted to isolate her so she still tried to talk with her ex without him knowing .a lot of people talk to their exes and they are not cheating with them .sometimes exes getting along better than when they were in a relationship
I knew it was over for them when Nikki threw him an 80s party and he left with his friends instead of being with his wife. He has always given opportunist vibes! Him and his mom are full of it!
That's what I said! That video of him leaving the party after only a few minutes was hard, Nikki was hurt and pissed. But he made his choice, what was important to him. I think he's always been like that.
His mother don't get one involved, she goes there to see the children. When they brought the house and they were doing renovations to it, his father would help.
I feel nothing for Jamie, he should have never put that video on social media, he wanted to paint her as the bad person all while provoking her Character. Kick rocks Duke!!!!!
Hey Sister Fumi! As a mother in law, I would never get involved in my son or daughters' marriages. I do not want to be apart of their affairs and you better not put me on camera! And let me take my grandbabies outside to play while you all sort out your differences.
I am a long-time viewer of their channel as well. I remember towards the end of their relationship, Jamie was traveling quite a bit and Nikki was having to stay at home with the children all the time. She was obviously lonely. She looked sad in their last videos together. In my own experience, I have a son and after I left my son’s father, he tried to get custody of our son just to “win”. He didn’t really want our son, he wanted me. He wanted to win. Some people are so weird that way. Anyway, I am happily engaged now and my son is 11 years old. His father has probably spoke to him a handful of times in the past 10 years.
People think because you are being objective and looking at all sides and holding everyone accountable is taking a side but that is called being a grown up. And being a real woman that holds herself accountable. Thank you!!!
She knocked the camera out of her personal space and face. He was antagonizing and baiting her to an outburst, as she rightfully said, he got what he wanted. Why was he yelling leave the house? Antagonizing. She took as much as she could. Also he said, that she TRIED to cheat on him. What does that mean? Either she did or she didn’t. Where’s the proof? Jamie for the sake of the kids should never have put such a private unpleasant matter on the internet. That’s disgusting and calculating on his part. Very sneaky too. I understand Nikki’s reaction having been a part of an antagonizing baiting situation where the individual hid their hands and painted me back due to my reaction to their hidden provoking, antagonizing, manipulative words and deeds . Her REACTION wasn’t without provocation. I wish healing for all involved
I have also been in a similar situation with my ex husband I'm the calmest person but he once baited me to lose my temper spectacularly after years of abuse from him and he still uses this one incident to dine out on and bring up when it suits him. I do not believe Jamie and I'm triggered and saddened by this whole saga.😢 I have watched some of their videos both before and after the divorce and it's just sad all round. I hope they'll both be happy going forward and manage to stay calm for the sake of the children.
I was done like this I understand it all tooooo well. People should ALWAYS side eyed the PERSON RECORDING someone else…ALWAYS!!!! That’s all I have to say.
If a man( especially in the Australian system) tells you he can not earn an income because he has 50% of his children's custody; you've got to question that. Child support is not required when both parents are equally sharing the responsability of raising kids. Perhalps he doesn't know what to do with his life now because the previous one was very easy and comfortable. Or he is just looking for cheap sympathy.
Same with UK. Child support is based on their income after all expenses. Most times it turns out to be peanuts for the average guy and the woman is better off applying for benefits. I have a friend who was awarded £100 a month child support but the nursery fees alone were nearly £800.
I remember only watching one video of them. I could see narcissistic tendencies and feel his fakeness through the screen. I just wasn't into it and wondered why Nikki settled for a fake.
I just realize that he said “ I caught her “trying” to cheat on me “ so in his eyes she tried. Trying is different from actually going through with it and actually trying is subjective. She doesn’t even entertain him with those statements
Wtf do you mean. They broke up because she cheated on him. The second time he said he caught her trying to again. And that’s because she was messaging her ex when she said she wasnt. Why make a second facebook account to hide it? But you do you. I hope your partner has a secret account and it talking to someone. That’s not cheating so it’s fine 😁
Exactly! Everyone is taking sides with two adults with bad behaviour. The only side we all need to take is that of the girls. I have unfollowed both parents. I don't need that energy in my life.
Somebody should have told Jamie to watch "Waiting to Exhale" to see what can happen to a man who disregards his wife's feelings. Basically, he would not have had that expensive car to Uber in. For 4 years Jamie and Nikki seemed to have done the impossible. Not airing their dirty laundry for the sake of the children. No matter how much inquiring minds wanted to know what happened. Then, "bare minimum" goes and does this.
That’s not the video that shows her hitting him. You can’t post violence on youtube. When they were together he installed cameras around the house to get evidence to file DV claim. And obviously he had evidence because he took it to court.
I cannot emphasise this enough relationship that are put on display never end well there's just something about showing your relationship to the world that triggers bad luck the public doesn't need to know everything you're doing.
it takes an extremely solid foundation to beat the odds. bc majority of the time it becomes a show for the public, not about the actual love they have for each other.
They broke up because she cheated. She promised not to talk to her ex again but made a hidden account to talk to him. That’s what he means by trying. But ya, i hope your partner makes a hidden account is talking to others bc clearly it’s not considered cheating :D
His statement about her cheating sounded like seasoning he was adding to give his story more flavor because it had nothing to do with the conversation at hand. And poor Jamie’s mom is being manipulated by her own son 😅
Jamie is giving me narcissistic vibes…. Nikki’s behavior is a result of something. No one just gets to this point. Time shall reveal all. God go with them 🙏🏽
Yes he is gaslighting and manipulative there is such thing as reactive abuse he is doing a smear campaign trying to make her look bad he only pressed record half way through what was said before hand
“Nikki had just been ontop of me punching me because I had told her that I wouldn't speak to her until we coudl have a calm conversation. Our counselor had told me we needed to take a 2 week break from talking until things calmed down. Nikki was furious I was asking for 2 weeks space from talking to her about anything other than the kids and showed up at the house demanding I talk to her which I refused” This is why he started recording. Justify this. Why is she coming to his house and refusing his request? Why is she hitting him in front of his mother and their kid? What made her drive all the way over to his house to do that? Wow Jamie must have so much power
Finally finally everyone can see through Jaime. That video he posted how so many holes. Thank you ms tess for taking the time to really breaking it down.
People obviously lack some kind of discernment if they can't see that you're trying to be objective. I really appreciate the comment from the viewer. It put a lot in perspective.
I can actually see her having one, even if it’s just a few special episodes. I can see her audience, the mic in her hand and her heart-warming laugh ❤✨🔥
A feeling I don't wish on anyone is knowing that your co parent really doesn't care about the children, but want everyone else to think they do. It can really unhinge you. Nikki, stay up. Stay prayed up. Get therapy. Forgive youself. And embrace the future. The girls need you. ❤
Wow, I had no idea this divorce became so nasty. Nikki needs another strategy to deal with all of this, he seems like he is gaslighting her then he records her.
You know Fumi. The recoding was made to show that Nikki is the abuser, the aggressor and he is her victim. His tone is soft and innocent because he knows he is recording her. A true reflection would be to record (which should not have been done) both of them in their element, both not knowing they are being recorded and it would tell a different story.
This just shows how sad this is. I hate divorce! As a divorced woman it is very hurtful going through it. It makes people's emotions get nasty. Knowing this I did all I could you remain respectful to not lie or slander my ex. Unfortunately my ex was not respectful. It was hard to maintain but I did it until the end. In all of it, something led up to this breakdown. Somebody gave up and set their affections elsewhere. My husband did that. This is the beginning of trauma....when one person begins betraying another.😔
Hmpf! I feel for that woman. We forget that she is not a native of AU, she was violently plucked from her homeland, a refugee then finally allowed to settle in AU. The level of racism perpetrated in AU is top tier! That Jamie is a freaking man child. He is abusive, nicki is clearly a CPSTD sufferer. All said, this nonsense they doing with the kids is traumatizing. Nicki’s mom was so calm. The other lady is playing victim like her son. When you have a lot of melanin you are often just labeled as aggressive. Jaimie is playing on ALL the racist stereotypes
Absolutely and we’ll stated, the sad thing is black people were ostracizing her. Africans are hating on Nickii I don’t know the day we will start supporting each other.We will always be treated as second class citizens because we don’t even love ourselves.May God help us Africans and black people.
It needs to be unpacked because so many women are going through this worldwide. I heard of cases of so many African and Black women losing their kids to yt tears. They never stop to drag you through the mud and do not care for the poor little children.
Fumi being the voice of reason. Someone had to be when there is conflict in families, especially is the case of divorce when young children are involved. Period!! This shouldnt play out on social media. Fumi is right, the hate for the ex spouse is more than the love for the children in that instance which is wild and very sad.
Thanks for sharing, I was sad that Jaime posted that video and was surprised with Nikki behavior; however, after thinking about it and seeing this video I have to remember what my mom said ( there’s two sides in a relationship and it’s not anyone else’s business, because we weren’t there through it all).😢
humans have emotions ..high emotions especially in this situation.and not every moment especially triggering can people control their feelings. We should not be condemning one behavior as if we are perfect.I’m sadden for their divorce I was a huge fan and watcher. I hope they can begin to repair and heal .
It baffles me how people that file for divorce (after 4 years) act like they don’t know about the process. If you’re paying thousands of dollars to your Lawyers to fight your case, YOU BETTER understand your rights , entitlements and what is required of you. He’s upset because he has to pay spousal support. It’s almost as if he thought that by filing divorce he was just punishing Nikki, NO, Jamie you’re punishing yourself too. That’s why Divorce needs to be handled with care because it can go way LEFT and destroy your life forever.
In the Caribbean spousal support is not automatic. The spouse has to request it but their are restrictions to it. The ex-spouse cannot be in a common law relationship. We are divorcing to be free of each other, so why do I want your money to take care of me. Maintenance for the children is automatic but the parents can also make their own arrangements, where that is concerned.
Both of them? Jamie is angry he can't use his kids to make money. Refuses to get a job. So now his parents work long hours at their old age to take care of him. Then cries that Nikki didn't make enough money for their channel. I just can't with that man. He needs a therapist.
@mslasvegas258 0 seconds ago He is an antagonist. He is so manipulative and underhanded. He throws his rock and hides his hand. I don’t usually comment on things like this but I have call it out. He thinks he’s so smart. I can’t stand Men like this. Awful.
Baby sister Fumi is not siding with anyone she is speaking the truth. There are 3 sides to every story; her side, his side and the truth. You are not married to Jamie or Nikki you don’t what the truth is. Just because you feel somekindaway doesn’t make you right. You crows need to worry your own relationships and stay out of the business of people you don’t know. Pray for the family and move on with your sad lives.
Like you said EVERYONE should stay out of their business especially online content creators too using this as content, it only fuels the fire. It's very sad Jamie had no respect for the sanctuary of marriage and privacy. No matter what Nikkie did, it was not his place to expose her to such public scrutiny. Everyone should stay out of their marital issues and this also includes all the online aunties and uncles giving unsolicited advice. It's very easy to tell others how to react and behave but you never know how you yourself will react in a similar situation when you are still raw with emotions. Everyone should learn how to mind their business especially on this social media streets where there are no limits anymore when it comes to content creation
Fumi you are absolutely right in regard to Jaime’s Mum. She was bias to a situation she does not have true knowledge of. She just “know” what Jaimie told her. She didn’t ask Nikki if she was ok or try to diffuse the situation. She made it worse by repeating Nikki’s alleged cheating scandal. This is a mess
Yes I made errors because I was shaken by his set up against Nikki. Pre planned camera ready. If she did cheat it was because she was looking for a man not a boy.
"Nikki had just been ontop of me punching me because I had told her that I wouldn't speak to her until we coudl have a calm conversation. Our counselor had told me we needed to take a 2 week break from talking until things calmed down. Nikki was furious I was asking for 2 weeks space from talking to her about anything other than the kids and showed up at the house demanding I talk to her which I refused" This is why he started recording. Justify her doing this. Why is she coming to his house and refusing his request? Why is she hitting him in front of his mother and their kid? What made her drive all the way over to his house to do that? Wow Jamie must have so much power.
@@akab3648we have no evidence he did it his only his word against hers. Funny how a man that films everything only managed to film her knocking a camera away.
You always give great mummy, aunty life advice. You have helped me so much with how I view myself and you are so logical but loving! Thank you and don't stop! Your advice is golden!
I said this before Jamie told the story but reversed it. That’s what narcs do. I’m sure a lot of the things he claim happen to him was actually the emotional and gaslighting abuse Nikki was experiencing from him. Nikki had no support or friends in the area that he wanted to move to. That is what abusers do they isolate you from others and bully you and then record you when you fight back and they’ll push you so much that you might even become physical to make them stop. When that happens it’s time to step away and not step out of character. Neither should never get physical with one another. Also on their channel Most of the visitors were his friends and seeing Nikki’s family was a rare occasion. I wouldn’t be shock if he was the one actually cheating because narcissist are known to be serious cheaters always looking for a new supply to abuse.
People also seem to forgot he was out a lot partying for days sometimes while she was home alone with the kids. I've seen people bring that up which I had forgotten about... I thought it was strange that a married man with a family was out so much, but never really thought about it.
Nah, Nikki sounded too powerful and full of herself in the relationship she’s not the one being abused. Come on! She said you’re not shit and won’t be shit. Etc… Make fun of him for being depressed.
Fumi, you look gorgeous in Orange. You can only express how you feel, so please don’t go beating on yourself. I love your reporting, as the tea is always right. Love you Fumi! We’re living and living you😂😂😂😂😂❤❤
The white savior complex that Jamie and his family displayed from the get-go would’ve been a red flag for me if I was in Nikki’s shoes. It’s something about whites from Australia and Britain that place an eerily high commodity value on possessing Black and Brown bodies as their spouses, kids, or friends. Jamie runs that “my parents were missionaries” and “no one thinks Ava is my daughter, but look how well I do Black hair” schticks into the ground every chance he gets. It’s clear he doesn’t see Nikki or his girls as real people with feelings and neither do his parents. For them, it’s an insult Nikki would leave them after they picked her up, dusted her off, and “gave” her such a wonderful life she “never” would’ve had without them. #sarcasm I pray justice gets served properly in the end for that family and the kids get protected from this abusing colonizer mentality.
It’s so unfortunate that, in the midst of all of this mess, there are two little girls caught in the crossfire. I remember seeing their little faces and the oldest one, especially, looked so weary, withdrawn and brokenhearted. It always bothered me that they never seemed to be sincerely happy and comfortable. In my opinion, Nikki should have never responded to Jaime’s video, and although I understand why she posted a statement in her defense, I think that she should not respond any further from this point on. Just *don’t*. We all see it for what it is, Jaime tried it and it backfired, and that’s it- there’s no need to add fuel to the fire to “prove” to “us” that he’s wrong. I hope someone can get to her before she posts anything else, because the only people that will suffer at the end of it all is them and the kids. And the internet will go on. Jaime is 40, I believe- dude is well past the age for this kind of foolishness. He tried it and hopefully the backlash on the internet and in courts slapped him hard enough to wake the hell up and realize that he’s a father and that his obligation is to protect and provide for the children he helped to create. His video came off more as a resentful, bitter compilation of revenge for Nikki “taking away” the “life” he created for RUclips instead of *actually living the life he created with this young woman*. Hence, why it was so easy for him to say “take the baby and go” instead of calling his children by their names- as long as they had their channel (his world), he was their “father.” Now that it’s over, they’re just collateral damage in his attempt to get back at Nikki for “ruining” that world… along with his own mother. Her being elderly is a plus- God forbid she die from all the stress in the process, she’s just as forgotten as those children. It’s very sad. I hope that they handle their troubles off the internet from here on out, and that the courts enforce it. They need to heal individually and stay off of social media, come to terms with reality (Jaime) and realize their priority from here on out is their kids. Praying they’ll get it together soon. ❤
It is very sad that this man has put his business for the world to witness , I want to believe it was because he was hurt But I also Know that both parties have their responsibilities in this matter and the children are the only ones suffering. However I think everyone should STOPPED giving their opinion, advice, analyzing the reactions and accused her , him , the mother etc... as you DON'T know how you would have reacted in the situation , Nobody's knows until it is done!!!!!! And As a lawyer I will also say that in any country even if there are strict laws about family law, it is never as simple as that lady wrote it in her message. When children are involved and parents are not yet on the same page the situations that can occurred usually makes the judges have to adapted to each case even when courts orders, justice decisions have been already taken. I can only hope that they find common ground as only time can heal. And the best lesson in this is to not let social media become your adviser. Social media makes but specially breaks people and relationships because everybody has an opinion!!!
Jamie is a narcissist. Its clear he is manipulating the situation. Why didn't he post the whole story..so we get to see the whole argument. He only shows us from the point where Nikki looses it and hits his camera while he's pretending to be polite and abused! Why did he have to record her while chasing her out of the house?
Absolutely, a narcissistic boy and his enabling mother, they ganged up against her. Jamie's mom is blind to his manipulative, triggering abuse. He has 3 black women that needs his support and what does he do?...what a disgrace...I pray Nikki stays quiet and concentrates on her healing, girls, peace and health. This guy is a no bueno!
“Nikki had just been ontop of me punching me because I had told her that I wouldn't speak to her until we coudl have a calm conversation. Our counselor had told me we needed to take a 2 week break from talking until things calmed down. Nikki was furious I was asking for 2 weeks space from talking to her about anything other than the kids and showed up at the house demanding I talk to her which I refused” This is why he started recording. Justify this. Why is she coming to his house and refusing his request? Oh yeah. Let him tell nikki to stop punching him so he find the phone
My two sons always get angry when they and their lady friends get into it and I don't automatically take their sides, as their mother and a female I'm always going to see it from a female point of view. I'm not going to side with them when I know that they are in the wrong, but I'll always will be there for them.
From the time I saw his video I knew this was manipulation at its finest, I am also "team children". I have warned people about taking sides and commenting on videos when you haven't seen it from the start. I've always been told "to explain is to expose".
Recall Jamie has health issues. That was the main reason he gave for scaling back on work. For those of you in perfect health thank God. Imagine combining ill health and trauma, also instead of tagging the male partner as the abusive one why don't we consider the evidence. Recall Nikki made it out to look like she paid the school fees. Why are we not pointing out the loopholes in her story? The assumption that all faults must lie with the male partner must end. Recall Depp vs Heard.
It is difficult to say what the mother in law has seen in this relationship, or what she was thinking whilst this was happening. As a Family lawyer I have seen and heard things, you hear the claim then the defence blows the claim out. Praying for anyone going through any kind of abuse OR relationship issues.
Thank you so much for posting this, Fumi. Your thorough research skills are chef’s kiss. Impeccable! (I am a researcher myself). The balanced information you provide encourages critical thinking, fairness, compassion, and empathy for all those involved. I genuinely value you and your channel🥰 I was astonished he mentioned the infidelity and was screaming get out in front of the baby. Neither Grandmother moved to take the baby away from that horrible energy. It was so sad and scary.
What a treacherous situation especially with children involve. I am learning from this situation on how I as a wife and mother react to ups and downs with my husband. I don’t want our daughter traumatized by what I do or say. It isn’t fair. I hope Jaime and Nikki will soon get to a place of peace and respect for the sake of their children to work out their differences.
There really isn't. There is only strong emotion conditioned by circumstances. I truly believe that hate is love enshrouded in hurt and other negative elements. Otherwise, love never existed.
Thank you so much for bringing light to my comment!! So much context that the people should know ❤
Awwwwwwwwww, thank YOU so very much Miss Tess for taking the time to enlighten us on the Australian legal system in relation to Divorce settlement arrangements, parenting & schooling system. It was nothing short of fascinating and I learned a lot in general, not only about this case. Please stop by as often as you can. Perhaps we can have you on the show if you’re open to it, I would looooove that! 😃🙏🏾💛⚖️ 🇦🇺 👑🎉🎉🎉🎉⚖️
@@FumiDesaluVold I would love that! I sent you a PM on your instagram 💖
Wonderful, exact, fair, and accurate statement. Loved it! Thank you!😊♥️🙏🏾
that was great pertinent information
I read her comment too and thought it was kind to share and enlighten. Thanks Ms. Fumi for highlighting. That was one of the most sensible and responsible comments I've seen. I hardly ever comment on these things, but had to commend that commenter.
The last time I took side for a RUclips couple drama, it turns out they were both abusing each other. Since then, I’ve never picked side.
I said the same thing and someone told me that I was just straddling the fence . 🙄
Out of sheer curiosity - who are You talking about?
Exactly.. unless you re a fly on the wall you really don’t know what happened. Reading in between the line doesn’t really answer anything
Who was it 👀
who was it?
My own mother took my ex-partner’s side when I finally found the strength and courage to open my mouth and tell my mother about I had been going through. She sat him down, advised him not to touch my face but to continue beating where the marks will not be visible. They were in the living talking and I heard everything while sitting on the stairs. I can till remember the sorrowful tears that came out of my eyes. That was the moment I new I only have God and my children in this life.
* With the Grace of God, I left him, went to University part-time for 4 years, got my degree in Child and family studies, after University worked part-time to gain experience and went back to University for 2 years got my Masters. Today, with the Mercy, love, grace and blessings of God and the people he brought into my life, I am a practicing Social Worker. All Glory be to God*
Your mother is jealous of you
This so sad am sorry you went through this sister sending much love. How can your mother do such things to you?
Wow, I'm sorry to hear that... I hope she's no longer in your life.
Damn. Smh. Sorry girl.
So sorry that your mother treated you so horrible!!! I am completely shocked...really sorry for that hurt. Your mom is probably a narcissist. ❤❤❤
Two years ago my son and his partner split. My son wanted me to discontinue my relationship with his ex and I refused. The only side I'm taking is my grandaughter's side, and it's to my grandaughter's benefit that I have a good relationship with her mother. I hope Jamie's mother has a good relationship with Nikki. These girls need as many people as possible in their corner.
@tmhodge01 After how she addressed and spoke to her! I doubt Jamie's mamma wants anything to do with her.
That's so nice to hear. I absolutely can not stand the grounds my ex walks on. If left to me, he's doesn't need to exist lol. But I absolutely adore my ex mother in law. Sometimes I wonder why she gave birth to an absolute piece of trash😅 but I can tell you she has fought to ensure me and him get our ish together and parent our children. Am thankful for her because if it was not for her intervention and for her putting the children first, our story would be different. But I am glad that the children now have an amazing relationship with their dad and his wider family.
You awesome!! We need more like you. Blessings ❤️
@@SammySam316Didn’t you hear what her mother in law said? It’s best to stay neutral instead of taking sides except we are flies on their wall to know who’s right and who’s not. I’m on the side of their children. We have enough sick people (mentally) due to broken marriages like this. We don’t need more tbh😢
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Can you imagine going through postpartum, not really having your family around and feeling beat down by your partners family
Yes. Yes I can image. And it is the MOST disturbing and lonely feeling in the world! 😢
Jamie has many talents. He said he gets the girls one week and Nikki has them the next. The type of work he is accustomed to isn’t a 9-5 job. Figure it out. Divorced people/Single parents work and take care of their kids all the time. It’s doable.
This makes so much sense! He is doing the bare minimum to avoid paying child support as he views it as Nikki has won.
This is why he said out of his own mouth, his mum has had to move in with him and his parents pay his rent. I also remember him saying, his Dad is having to work a lot more. (This is sad for an old man to be working so hard at his age!!)
He has shifted the responsibility onto his parents!! That way he can work the bare minimum and still gets his rent paid, his mum will cook and clean for him.
PARENTS, it is SO SO important that we don’t raise narcissistic children. This starts from young. Be careful about inflating their egos and doing “too much” for them. Raise them to be humble, honest and hard workers.
Jamie’s parents have raised a narcissist and still in their old age are having to pay for his ways. They are literally his “flying monkeys” and he uses them when it feels fit to him. They literally have NO IDEA! Wow! I’m mindblown.
Thanks to the person who left the long comment in the video, it opened my eyes and I’ve learned even so much more about humans and narcs in general. And thanks Fumi for another amazing vid!! ❤
Exactly. He is such a narc! The dude has no shame.
It’s pathetic! A grown man that doesn’t need to worry about childcare 24 hours a day. Use that free time to edit videos for businesses, get back into music editing, host editing workshops and RUclipsr masterclasses. He doesn’t want to pay Nikki so he goes down the conceited route.
So he is cutting off his nose to spite his face. That makes a whole lot of sense. He prefers to be homeless and a bum than to pay child support. That's so clever. Who thought of that plan?
In the vlogs you could see that Jamie's mom and Nikki were the ones taking care of the kids. Everyone else was working hard and Jamie was constantly out.
I have been there. My ex husband didn't want our friends and family to see him as the bad guy so during the last 8 months we were together he would walk past me when we with other people and whisper things like wow you've gained weight or that outfit should have stayed in the store. Then he'd hurry away as it registered and I'd get upset and then he'd tell them - see, she's a light switch. One minute its all fine and like a switch she changes, what can I do. It was years later that a gf ran into him and saw him for who became and she called to apologize to me. He wanted me to be the one to file for divorce so he wouldn't look bad and be found out for cheating.
That is evil.
Everyone has the propensity to be violent when pushed or provoked. I don't know why some folks are acting like Nikki just be out here slapping everybody. If she is doing that, then he needed to seek fully custody of the kids like yesterday. My ex-boyfriend got these hands after he kept taunting and provoking me after I repeatedly asked him to leave me alone. I just saw red and got to pounding on him. And guess what, he left me alone after that. Did I feel good about it? No, but it happened. We're not perfect. I just hope they both get some healing for the sake of the children.
I can never forget years back when my ex would beat & punish me to his amusement; got to the point when I was pushed to the wall & retaliated defending myself!!…me retaliating surprised him & he gave me the beating of my life then started telling his family that I punched him!! I walked out of the marriage at the end!!!🥹🥹🥹🥹
That’s exactly what I said last week
EXACTLY 💯
“Nikki had just been ontop of me punching me because I had told her that I wouldn't speak to her until we coudl have a calm conversation. Our counselor had told me we needed to take a 2 week break from talking until things calmed down.
Nikki was furious I was asking for 2 weeks space from talking to her about anything other than the kids and showed up at the house demanding I talk to her which I refused” This is why he started recording. Justify her behaviour. Why is she coming to his house and refusing his request? Why is she hitting him in front of his mother and their kid? What made her drive all the way over to his house to do that? Wow Jamie must have so much power.
Sorry but there's no excuse to be physical with anyone unless it's self defense. If you get to that point YOU need to leave. That's never OK to do no matter if you think so or not. And even you say our ex provoked you like you have no control over yourself. Take some damn responsibility people for your own behavior.
I knew he was gaslighting us...
He's homeless hurting and broke what u think he gonna do
He had no regard for the children, a real man would have spoken to the children and worry about their emotions but rather had to attend his mother. He staged this for his own benefit he thought but hey you know what this recording is evidence against himself as it will come back to bite him.
Jamie is the Narcissist period. I wouldnt believe everything the mother inlaw says as she knew well her son was recording and they both must have discussed. She will definitely take the side of her son.
She tried to cheat on him, how? He was intentional with the words he dropped. He wants the public coming for Nikki, shame on him.
Nikki's reaction is justified. No one blows hot for no reason period.
Both Nicki and Jaime need help..she is not innocent either.
Nikki knows he was recording too but she didn’t care, she pushed him away with the camera but there’s other recordings where Nikki stated even worse and admitted she was abusing him. If I didn’t hear for sure they were divorced, I could certainly confirm that they both were doing that video for money and views. Mostly the videos where both family members were there seemed to me, it was consent between them to do that to both have money from views and share the money. I still think, it’s a possibility.
Why don't he ask his mother to watch the children so that he can work? She seemed very invested
Init! Am here thinking the same.
I have been team the KIDS from the very beginning because they are the real victims in the mess. When Jamie said he didn’t want the kids to see this side of Nikki but went ahead and posted that awful video, he was been disingenuous in my opinion. I hope both of them heal for those beautiful babies sake
I'm really struggling to find a possible genuine motive for him posting the video? For what, what good did it do for him? For the children? Literally nothing
That made me look at him with a stank side eye!...he was wrong for that and tried to create a narrative...I've realized that a lot of times the person recording is usually toxic too!
@@SammySam316maybe you are a friend of him.because I see you every where in the comment trying to defend his behavior against the mother of his beautiful children.
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Seeing the mother in law was so triggering because I've dealt with a situation where the mother has sided with her son, even when he was wrong, to the point of spreading lies about me to make me the bad person. The person that has been affected the most by that is my son, because a situation that was already tough has been made worse by the mother in law.
In such situations parents need to remain neutral, unless one party is dangerous of course. You don't take your child or son/daughter in laws side. You take your grandchildren's side.
That’s why he’s the way he is. There’s a case in NC where the husband cheated & killed his pregnant wife & two small innocent children. The wife had wrote about her mother in laws passive aggression against her & the children. Like giving peanuts to her daughter although she knows she had a deadly allergy
“Nikki had just been ontop of me punching me because I had told her that I wouldn't speak to her until we coudl have a calm conversation. Our counselor had told me we needed to take a 2 week break from talking until things calmed down.
Nikki was furious I was asking for 2 weeks space from talking to her about anything other than the kids and showed up at the house demanding I talk to her which I refused” This is why he started recording. Justify her behaviour. Why is she coming to his house and refusing his request? Why is she hitting him in front of his mother and their kid? What made her drive all the way over to his house to do that? Wow Jamie must have so much power
I use to watch every episode. A few months after Ava was born Nikki said “I am so glad that your mom and I are friends”. That lady looks sweet but for whatever reason, she did not like Nikki. She had to win his mother over. Jamie knew what he was doing when had her there and then later she started with those iconic tears. PLZ!
I agree
Same here, my ex threatening me severally about killing me to the full knowledge of his mum. But one time I retaliated against the threat he planned with his mum and put it on record and had to use it against me. Thank God the recording got lost. Parents should always be neutral when it comes to their kid's divorce process. I have forgiven my ex but will never forgive his mum for painting me evil despite the love I showed to her.
Caught out trying to cheat on me ...he said ....not that she cheated...i watched that video and all i was left asking was what is the full story.....i hate it when people have a small part of a story as evidence and anyone trying to push the victim narrative on an online platform...smh....hope its all resolved peacefully and off the internet 😣😣😣
Right. Don't know why people are missing that part!
She cheated and they split up briefly. That is a fact. She then created a hidden account after saying she would not speak with her ex and he found it with messages coming in from the ex, and her having deleted her side of the convo. That’s what he said about her trying to cheat again. But ig that doesn’t count as cheating. I hope your partner has a secret account and is chatting people up. That’s perfectly fine huh. Not cheating :)
@@SammySam316 yes she cheated first time then was forgiven then cheated again then they divorced. You should watch and listen to comprehend not pick what you want to listen
He didn’t he said you “tried” to cheat on me in the video he took of Nikki. But 4 years later when he’s talking about the incident it changed to her actually cheating…hmm. Anyway Nikki said he was following her round calling her a psychotic slut etc before that part of the video. He only showed what he wanted us to see
@@akab3648where’s the evidence of her cheating? That’s not a fact! Clearly this is Jamie from his burner page. You need to seek help!
Wow that colour and hair style looks incredible on you. Thank you for your impartial update. ❤
Sorry but Jamie is SICK. my opinion from day one. Glad everyone is starting to see through him. Team nikki!!!!
My mother would be asking what are you doing recording my grandchild? To put where? And before we had this nonsense?. Please grow up. That phone should have be launched to the moon by his mother. Colluding!! and you wonder why Nikki would react in that manner. Yon need to take responsibility my back foot 😡. Separations and divorce is painful, no matter whose to blame. And a lot of times, no one is - as people fall out of love, want different things and different people in their lives. Enough of this character bashing in public Jamie. It really does you no good at all .
I agree, Funmi it’s about the kids now and their parents have had their time.
Yeah. Victims need to stop trying to get evidence of the abuse. Because people clearly believe without evidence (with how many people are supporting Nikki’s abuse when she has said fuck all). Makes sense.
“Nikki had just been ontop of me punching me because I had told her that I wouldn't speak to her until we coudl have a calm conversation. Our counselor had told me we needed to take a 2 week break from talking until things calmed down.
Nikki was furious I was asking for 2 weeks space from talking to her about anything other than the kids and showed up at the house demanding I talk to her which I refused” This is why he started recording. Justify this. Why is she coming to his house and refusing his request? Why is she coming over to hit him in front of the kids?
Yes I’m Australian, and his recording would not be used as court because it would be seen as coercive, ie they could not prove that Nicki was not provoke moments before this video as is often done by abusers.
He is playing the victim, more details will come out.
“Nikki had just been ontop of me punching me because I had told her that I wouldn't speak to her until we coudl have a calm conversation. Our counselor had told me we needed to take a 2 week break from talking until things calmed down.
Nikki was furious I was asking for 2 weeks space from talking to her about anything other than the kids and showed up at the house demanding I talk to her which I refused” This is why he started recording. Justify this. Why is she coming to his house and refusing his request? Why is she hitting him in front of his mother and their kid? What made her drive all the way over to his house to do that? Wow Jamie must have so much power
And he has cameras installed in his house so he WOULD have evidence of it. He cannot post violence on youtube and he shouldn’t post a video of her punching him anyway because it’s disturbing and triggering
@@akab3648no one believes the before account that he wrote and you keep repeating! It’s one sided and paints him as the victim! He could have written anything as to why she reacted but we will not know the truth!
@@akab3648His evidence were so great that the judge allowed her to have full custody of the kids during the process of the divorce and then decided to give them shared custody. Sure she is so evil...
@@akab3648so I guess he provided the home cctv footage of Nikki punching him in court huh? Did he?
Sometimes we think we know what we'd do in a situation, until it happens.
Exactly with all the women trashing Nikki
Exactly!
True. Though sometimes our beliefs are based on previous experiences and knowing oneself.
Absolutely 💯
Right!!
Note in the video that Jamie said Niki "tried" to cheat on her.
Jamie doesn’t care about those children. It was just a ticket to an easier life. Now he has to work for a living, and now he is using the divorce to remain relevant
Exactly this
Fullstop
No lies here !
It sounds line he was setting her up by triggering her. He knows how she reacts. He is calm the whole time. She is reactive through her anger. It is a shame because he is recording her. His mother just walks upstairs and he is still recording. His mom is reacting because she loves her grandchildren and that is her son.
He used his mom in this mess. You see, this relationship is deeply rooted on both sides.
Loving the orange 😊
The entire look is a vibe 🥂
It is sad to me that in this age of social media to many people are recording personal stuff and posting it for the world to see. I don't understand this addiction. I find it baffling.
I pray for healing in this relationship.
The mother said you need to take responsibility; she didn’t say accountability. The mother knew what they did was wrong and that is why she begins to cry. Least the mother stopped him from calling the police right then. Jamie is ready to put himself in the poor house in order to not take care of his kids. In his mind, it will make life hard for Nikki. Instead of using the lemons to make lemonade, he decides to let the lemons rot. Jamie, it’s never too late to do right. Praying for you both and your families.
‘I don’t want the children to see the real you on the Internet’ he said on that recording… sure, we just saw how true that was.
The dude is insane
Not sure who's right or wrong, however that shows he is not being entirely truthful.
Gaslighting
Lol that’s what I was thinking. I pray they find peace and focus on the coparenting their children
Yes and now he had noice to post it. As he should. LETS NORMALISE NOT SUPPORTING ABUSERS
I have a strong feeling Jamie is a Karen.He even sounds cold in his delivery of talking to Nikki
I know a narcissist man when I see one, they will manipulate you to anger then film the result of what they have done for the public to see, I will always be team Nikki and if you will only know if you have encountered a narcissist man
He said tried to cheat on me, this means she never really cheated
No. He said they broke up for a bit because she cheated. Then she promised not to talk to her ex again. But she made a hidden account to talk to him. That’s what he meant by trying to cheat again. But i guess that doesn’t count as cheating right? So all good. I hope your partner creates a hidden account and talks to other ppl cuz that’s fine. Lets normalise lying to your partner and texting your exes secretly
If you tried to rob a bank does it mean you robbed a bank.because Jamie said she tried to cheat does it mean that she cheated ,talking to your ex mean you tried to cheat .maybe nikki needed to talk to someone and her ex listens but Jamie wanted to isolate her so she still tried to talk with her ex without him knowing .a lot of people talk to their exes and they are not cheating with them .sometimes exes getting along better than when they were in a relationship
She hurts herself by allowing him to set her off so I pray that she gets to a point where he can nolonger get under her skin
I knew it was over for them when Nikki threw him an 80s party and he left with his friends instead of being with his wife. He has always given opportunist vibes! Him and his mom are full of it!
That's what I said! That video of him leaving the party after only a few minutes was hard, Nikki was hurt and pissed. But he made his choice, what was important to him. I think he's always been like that.
I feel like he often running off with friends in many episodes but yes the birthday party she planned for him said a lot. The marriage was over.
they were separated for two months by then and she cheated and they both embellished for the 'show'
I remembered that party as well. I felt so bad for her, if you looked at her face~you can see it. The later part of the videos, he was mostly out.
His mother don't get one involved, she goes there to see the children. When they brought the house and they were doing renovations to it, his father would help.
I feel nothing for Jamie, he should have never put that video on social media, he wanted to paint her as the bad person all while provoking her Character. Kick rocks Duke!!!!!
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Just smiling listening to this. I live in Australia and divorced last year. Had kept my comments to myself regarding that video.
Before you even mentioned which comment it was, I already knew it😁😁 I read through that whole thing and it made so much sense- I totally agree with it
It does appears that Jamie staged a lot of the incidents
Jamie is sooooo on the wrong by asking her to pick up their kids on the freaking police station?!? Come on that is shaddy petty behaviour
Hallelujah. A very sober comment indeed. Kudo's to whoever wrote it. Thank You...
Hey Sister Fumi! As a mother in law, I would never get involved in my son or daughters' marriages. I do not want to be apart of their affairs and you better not put me on camera! And let me take my grandbabies outside to play while you all sort out your differences.
💯 Agreed
This whole thing is a mess
Look how she took the kid from the mother in law. You really think that mother in law could have enforced anything. The poor old lady
I am a long-time viewer of their channel as well. I remember towards the end of their relationship, Jamie was traveling quite a bit and Nikki was having to stay at home with the children all the time. She was obviously lonely. She looked sad in their last videos together. In my own experience, I have a son and after I left my son’s father, he tried to get custody of our son just to “win”. He didn’t really want our son, he wanted me. He wanted to win. Some people are so weird that way. Anyway, I am happily engaged now and my son is 11 years old. His father has probably spoke to him a handful of times in the past 10 years.
People think because you are being objective and looking at all sides and holding everyone accountable is taking a side but that is called being a grown up. And being a real woman that holds herself accountable. Thank you!!!
She knocked the camera out of her personal space and face. He was antagonizing and baiting her to an outburst, as she rightfully said, he got what he wanted. Why was he yelling leave the house? Antagonizing. She took as much as she could. Also he said, that she TRIED to cheat on him. What does that mean? Either she did or she didn’t. Where’s the proof? Jamie for the sake of the kids should never have put such a private unpleasant matter on the internet. That’s disgusting and calculating on his part. Very sneaky too. I understand Nikki’s reaction having been a part of an antagonizing baiting situation where the individual hid their hands and painted me back due to my reaction to their hidden provoking, antagonizing, manipulative words and deeds . Her REACTION wasn’t without provocation. I wish healing for all involved
I totally agree --his video seem edited and calculated. You are so on target with your assessment.
I have also been in a similar situation with my ex husband I'm the calmest person but he once baited me to lose my temper spectacularly after years of abuse from him and he still uses this one incident to dine out on and bring up when it suits him. I do not believe Jamie and I'm triggered and saddened by this whole saga.😢 I have watched some of their videos both before and after the divorce and it's just sad all round.
I hope they'll both be happy going forward and manage to stay calm for the sake of the children.
Jamie was out partying with his boys while Nikki was at home with the kids. I wonder where she would've gotten the time...
I said the same thing, as a victim myself, she was definitely pushed to anger, he is a convert narc.
I was done like this I understand it all tooooo well. People should ALWAYS side eyed the PERSON RECORDING someone else…ALWAYS!!!! That’s all I have to say.
If a man( especially in the Australian system) tells you he can not earn an income because he has 50% of his children's custody; you've got to question that. Child support is not required when both parents are equally sharing the responsability of raising kids.
Perhalps he doesn't know what to do with his life now because the previous one was very easy and comfortable. Or he is just looking for cheap sympathy.
Same with UK. Child support is based on their income after all expenses. Most times it turns out to be peanuts for the average guy and the woman is better off applying for benefits. I have a friend who was awarded £100 a month child support but the nursery fees alone were nearly £800.
I remember only watching one video of them. I could see narcissistic tendencies and feel his fakeness through the screen.
I just wasn't into it and wondered why Nikki settled for a fake.
I just realize that he said “ I caught her “trying” to cheat on me “ so in his eyes she tried. Trying is different from actually going through with it and actually trying is subjective. She doesn’t even entertain him with those statements
He said both.. if this is not true, I hope she uses for defamation
Wtf do you mean. They broke up because she cheated on him. The second time he said he caught her trying to again. And that’s because she was messaging her ex when she said she wasnt. Why make a second facebook account to hide it? But you do you. I hope your partner has a secret account and it talking to someone. That’s not cheating so it’s fine 😁
Apparently she never denied it.
It’s was a stupid story made.Jamie is an amazing abuser,he have to come out the closet so he can be happy.and let his ex and children alone.
The worst acting award goes to Jamie!
The stupidest comment award goes to you
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Facts!!! Seems like he trying to set her up..
Facts! How people didn't see that. He thought because he fooled us with his fakery all these years he would get us again.
He is a whiny B and continues to push her buttons
Exactly! Everyone is taking sides with two adults with bad behaviour. The only side we all need to take is that of the girls. I have unfollowed both parents. I don't need that energy in my life.
Somebody should have told Jamie to watch "Waiting to Exhale" to see what can happen to a man who disregards his wife's feelings. Basically, he would not have had that expensive car to Uber in. For 4 years Jamie and Nikki seemed to have done the impossible. Not airing their dirty laundry for the sake of the children. No matter how much inquiring minds wanted to know what happened. Then, "bare minimum" goes and does this.
So he put the camera on her face, she slams it and he runs to use that as evidence for DV??? How evil!
Exactly! that is what a covert abuser would do.
Imagine
men or women CANNOT slap things out of each other's hands. It's physical contact and is considered assualt. She can use her mouth or walk away.
How evil a lier and cheater she is he and his parents helped her alot throughout her life ratchet life style is not for everyboady
That’s not the video that shows her hitting him. You can’t post violence on youtube. When they were together he installed cameras around the house to get evidence to file DV claim. And obviously he had evidence because he took it to court.
I cannot emphasise this enough relationship that are put on display never end well there's just something about showing your relationship to the world that triggers bad luck the public doesn't need to know everything you're doing.
FAXXX FAXXX FAXXX!!! They are compensating for the mess no one can see. Smh.
it takes an extremely solid foundation to beat the odds. bc majority of the time it becomes a show for the public, not about the actual love they have for each other.
He said in the video that she tried to cheat, meaning she did not cheat, but she tried.
Exactly lolol. What does “tried” even mean? Lol
And where is the evidence
I caught that too, “ try “, 🤔.
They broke up because she cheated. She promised not to talk to her ex again but made a hidden account to talk to him. That’s what he means by trying. But ya, i hope your partner makes a hidden account is talking to others bc clearly it’s not considered cheating :D
His statement about her cheating sounded like seasoning he was adding to give his story more flavor because it had nothing to do with the conversation at hand. And poor Jamie’s mom is being manipulated by her own son 😅
Jamie is giving me narcissistic vibes….
Nikki’s behavior is a result of something. No one just gets to this point.
Time shall reveal all. God go with them 🙏🏽
Yes he is gaslighting and manipulative there is such thing as reactive abuse he is doing a smear campaign trying to make her look bad he only pressed record half way through what was said before hand
100%!! If you’ve been a victim of narcissistic abuse, you can see it from a mile away!
Why y'all Always excuses violents women??
“Nikki had just been ontop of me punching me because I had told her that I wouldn't speak to her until we coudl have a calm conversation. Our counselor had told me we needed to take a 2 week break from talking until things calmed down.
Nikki was furious I was asking for 2 weeks space from talking to her about anything other than the kids and showed up at the house demanding I talk to her which I refused” This is why he started recording. Justify this. Why is she coming to his house and refusing his request? Why is she hitting him in front of his mother and their kid? What made her drive all the way over to his house to do that? Wow Jamie must have so much power
Finally finally everyone can see through Jaime. That video he posted how so many holes. Thank you ms tess for taking the time to really breaking it down.
Love this jumper. Loveeet! The color suits you too. Love the casual look too. More of this!
People obviously lack some kind of discernment if they can't see that you're trying to be objective. I really appreciate the comment from the viewer. It put a lot in perspective.
I soooo hope you get a talk show so very soon. I hope you remain the same with your new talk show! Your commentary always drives home!
I can actually see her having one, even if it’s just a few special episodes. I can see her audience, the mic in her hand and her heart-warming laugh ❤✨🔥
I agree; Fumo is top notch with her advice!👌👌
A feeling I don't wish on anyone is knowing that your co parent really doesn't care about the children, but want everyone else to think they do. It can really unhinge you.
Nikki, stay up. Stay prayed up. Get therapy. Forgive youself. And embrace the future. The girls need you. ❤
Wow, I had no idea this divorce became so nasty. Nikki needs another strategy to deal with all of this, he seems like he is gaslighting her then he records her.
You know Fumi. The recoding was made to show that Nikki is the abuser, the aggressor and he is her victim. His tone is soft and innocent because he knows he is recording her. A true reflection would be to record (which should not have been done) both of them in their element, both not knowing they are being recorded and it would tell a different story.
Oh, he's good. Jamie is behaving like a typical Karen. Karen has a history of getting her way once the crocodile tears are shed.
This just shows how sad this is. I hate divorce! As a divorced woman it is very hurtful going through it. It makes people's emotions get nasty. Knowing this I did all I could you remain respectful to not lie or slander my ex. Unfortunately my ex was not respectful. It was hard to maintain but I did it until the end. In all of it, something led up to this breakdown. Somebody gave up and set their affections elsewhere. My husband did that. This is the beginning of trauma....when one person begins betraying another.😔
Hmpf! I feel for that woman. We forget that she is not a native of AU, she was violently plucked from her homeland, a refugee then finally allowed to settle in AU. The level of racism perpetrated in AU is top tier!
That Jamie is a freaking man child.
He is abusive, nicki is clearly a CPSTD sufferer.
All said, this nonsense they doing with the kids is traumatizing.
Nicki’s mom was so calm.
The other lady is playing victim like her son.
When you have a lot of melanin you are often just labeled as aggressive.
Jaimie is playing on ALL the racist stereotypes
Bingo
You made so much sense in all these!!!…..1000% agreed!!
Absolutely and we’ll stated, the sad thing is black people were ostracizing her. Africans are hating on Nickii I don’t know the day we will start supporting each other.We will always be treated as second class citizens because we don’t even love ourselves.May God help us Africans and black people.
It needs to be unpacked because so many women are going through this worldwide. I heard of cases of so many African and Black women losing their kids to yt tears. They never stop to drag you through the mud and do not care for the poor little children.
Are you serious she has a huge family been there basically her whole life yall just want her to be right so bad
Fumi being the voice of reason. Someone had to be when there is conflict in families, especially is the case of divorce when young children are involved. Period!! This shouldnt play out on social media. Fumi is right, the hate for the ex spouse is more than the love for the children in that instance which is wild and very sad.
Thanks for sharing, I was sad that Jaime posted that video and was surprised with Nikki behavior; however, after thinking about it and seeing this video I have to remember what my mom said ( there’s two sides in a relationship and it’s not anyone else’s business, because we weren’t there through it all).😢
humans have emotions ..high emotions especially in this situation.and not every moment especially triggering can people control their feelings. We should not be condemning one behavior as if we are perfect.I’m sadden for their divorce I was a huge fan and watcher. I hope they can begin to repair and heal .
Nikki was triggered. They ganged up on her.
Thank you to that view who provided a deed insight into the Australian divorce legal system
So he kept telling her to leave the house and she did and he’s complaining about it.
Exactly
It baffles me how people that file for divorce (after 4 years) act like they don’t know about the process. If you’re paying thousands of dollars to your Lawyers to fight your case, YOU BETTER understand your rights , entitlements and what is required of you. He’s upset because he has to pay spousal support. It’s almost as if he thought that by filing divorce he was just punishing Nikki, NO, Jamie you’re punishing yourself too. That’s why Divorce needs to be handled with care because it can go way LEFT and destroy your life forever.
Bingo. Alot of men don't realise this. They act out of emotion and anger and then cry when they get exactly what they deserve.
Well said. 👏🏽👏🏻
In the Caribbean spousal support is not automatic. The spouse has to request it but their are restrictions to it. The ex-spouse cannot be in a common law relationship. We are divorcing to be free of each other, so why do I want your money to take care of me. Maintenance for the children is automatic but the parents can also make their own arrangements, where that is concerned.
Prayers up for both of them and especially for the children. It’s just really sad things couldn’t be better between them. No judgements.
Both of them? Jamie is angry he can't use his kids to make money. Refuses to get a job. So now his parents work long hours at their old age to take care of him. Then cries that Nikki didn't make enough money for their channel. I just can't with that man. He needs a therapist.
Jaime is sneaky and slick as fish grease. My heart goes out to the children especially and both parties. 🙏🏽
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He is an antagonist. He is so manipulative and underhanded. He throws his rock and hides his hand. I don’t usually comment on things like this but I have call it out. He thinks he’s so smart. I can’t stand Men like this. Awful.
I knew Jamie was not telling the truth. I saw his body language. I knew his story was crazy.
Baby sister Fumi is not siding with anyone she is speaking the truth. There are 3 sides to every story; her side, his side and the truth. You are not married to Jamie or Nikki you don’t what the truth is. Just because you feel somekindaway doesn’t make you right. You crows need to worry your own relationships and stay out of the business of people you don’t know. Pray for the family and move on with your sad lives.
Like you said EVERYONE should stay out of their business especially online content creators too using this as content, it only fuels the fire. It's very sad Jamie had no respect for the sanctuary of marriage and privacy. No matter what Nikkie did, it was not his place to expose her to such public scrutiny. Everyone should stay out of their marital issues and this also includes all the online aunties and uncles giving unsolicited advice. It's very easy to tell others how to react and behave but you never know how you yourself will react in a similar situation when you are still raw with emotions. Everyone should learn how to mind their business especially on this social media streets where there are no limits anymore when it comes to content creation
You sound angry for what??
If you put your personal business on the internet people would mind it. They are fair game.
This comment right here!
Exactly
Fumi you are absolutely right in regard to Jaime’s Mum. She was bias to a situation she does not have true knowledge of. She just “know” what Jaimie told her. She didn’t ask Nikki if she was ok or try to diffuse the situation. She made it worse by repeating Nikki’s alleged cheating scandal. This is a mess
It’s very hard to see a parent who will not take sides with their kids, even you. Not after what Nikki did
@@Kutie500 my mom and my dad are that rare parents
Yes I made errors because I was shaken by his set up against Nikki. Pre planned camera ready. If she did cheat it was because she was looking for a man not a boy.
I wish she new as a young girl that a man in his 20 approaching a high schooler is a red flag.
Yeah lets normalise cheating and hitting your partners
"Nikki had just been ontop of me punching me because I had told her that I wouldn't speak to her until we coudl have a calm conversation. Our counselor had told me we needed to take a 2 week break from talking until things calmed down.
Nikki was furious I was asking for 2 weeks space from talking to her about anything other than the kids and showed up at the house demanding I talk to her which I refused" This is why he started recording. Justify her doing this.
Why is she coming to his house and refusing his request? Why is she hitting him in front of his mother and their kid? What made her drive all the way over to his house to do that? Wow Jamie must have so much power.
@@akab3648we have no evidence he did it his only his word against hers. Funny how a man that films everything only managed to film her knocking a camera away.
You always give great mummy, aunty life advice. You have helped me so much with how I view myself and you are so logical but loving! Thank you and don't stop! Your advice is golden!
I said this before Jamie told the story but reversed it. That’s what narcs do. I’m sure a lot of the things he claim happen to him was actually the emotional and gaslighting abuse Nikki was experiencing from him. Nikki had no support or friends in the area that he wanted to move to. That is what abusers do they isolate you from others and bully you and then record you when you fight back and they’ll push you so much that you might even become physical to make them stop. When that happens it’s time to step away and not step out of character. Neither should never get physical with one another. Also on their channel Most of the visitors were his friends and seeing Nikki’s family was a rare occasion. I wouldn’t be shock if he was the one actually cheating because narcissist are known to be serious cheaters always looking for a new supply to abuse.
People also seem to forgot he was out a lot partying for days sometimes while she was home alone with the kids. I've seen people bring that up which I had forgotten about... I thought it was strange that a married man with a family was out so much, but never really thought about it.
Yep and they will always then turn around and accuse their victims of cheating
Nah, Nikki sounded too powerful and full of herself in the relationship she’s not the one being abused. Come on! She said you’re not shit and won’t be shit. Etc… Make fun of him for being depressed.
That guy is a narcissist. I knew he was lying
Fumi, you look gorgeous in Orange. You can only express how you feel, so please don’t go beating on yourself. I love your reporting, as the tea is always right. Love you Fumi! We’re living and living you😂😂😂😂😂❤❤
This man pissed because the money train stopped.
I heard that on the first video. His whole excuse is him being a creative and not a provider. Jamie needed a real job.
I watched the whole video and I saw the gaslighting. I hope they will get though this
Divorce is dirty 😢
The white savior complex that Jamie and his family displayed from the get-go would’ve been a red flag for me if I was in Nikki’s shoes. It’s something about whites from Australia and Britain that place an eerily high commodity value on possessing Black and Brown bodies as their spouses, kids, or friends. Jamie runs that “my parents were missionaries” and “no one thinks Ava is my daughter, but look how well I do Black hair” schticks into the ground every chance he gets. It’s clear he doesn’t see Nikki or his girls as real people with feelings and neither do his parents. For them, it’s an insult Nikki would leave them after they picked her up, dusted her off, and “gave” her such a wonderful life she “never” would’ve had without them. #sarcasm I pray justice gets served properly in the end for that family and the kids get protected from this abusing colonizer mentality.
I resonate with this comment so much. Wow!
If they didn’t give her a wonderful life, she gave them a wonderful life. She was the sole reason Jamie was able to make any money.
Fullstop!
It’s so unfortunate that, in the midst of all of this mess, there are two little girls caught in the crossfire. I remember seeing their little faces and the oldest one, especially, looked so weary, withdrawn and brokenhearted. It always bothered me that they never seemed to be sincerely happy and comfortable.
In my opinion, Nikki should have never responded to Jaime’s video, and although I understand why she posted a statement in her defense, I think that she should not respond any further from this point on. Just *don’t*. We all see it for what it is, Jaime tried it and it backfired, and that’s it- there’s no need to add fuel to the fire to “prove” to “us” that he’s wrong. I hope someone can get to her before she posts anything else, because the only people that will suffer at the end of it all is them and the kids. And the internet will go on.
Jaime is 40, I believe- dude is well past the age for this kind of foolishness. He tried it and hopefully the backlash on the internet and in courts slapped him hard enough to wake the hell up and realize that he’s a father and that his obligation is to protect and provide for the children he helped to create. His video came off more as a resentful, bitter compilation of revenge for Nikki “taking away” the “life” he created for RUclips instead of *actually living the life he created with this young woman*. Hence, why it was so easy for him to say “take the baby and go” instead of calling his children by their names- as long as they had their channel (his world), he was their “father.” Now that it’s over, they’re just collateral damage in his attempt to get back at Nikki for “ruining” that world… along with his own mother. Her being elderly is a plus- God forbid she die from all the stress in the process, she’s just as forgotten as those children. It’s very sad.
I hope that they handle their troubles off the internet from here on out, and that the courts enforce it. They need to heal individually and stay off of social media, come to terms with reality (Jaime) and realize their priority from here on out is their kids. Praying they’ll get it together soon. ❤
Yep. This is about not paying child support.
It is very sad that this man has put his business for the world to witness , I want to believe it was because he was hurt But I also Know that both parties have their responsibilities in this matter and the children are the only ones suffering. However I think everyone should STOPPED giving their opinion, advice, analyzing the reactions and accused her , him , the mother etc... as you DON'T know how you would have reacted in the situation , Nobody's knows until it is done!!!!!! And As a lawyer I will also say that in any country even if there are strict laws about family law, it is never as simple as that lady wrote it in her message. When children are involved and parents are not yet on the same page the situations that can occurred usually makes the judges have to adapted to each case even when courts orders, justice decisions have been already taken. I can only hope that they find common ground as only time can heal. And the best lesson in this is to not let social media become your adviser. Social media makes but specially breaks people and relationships because everybody has an opinion!!!
Happy for Nikki that she is free from this gaslighting and white supremacist family. Jamie’s Mum is enabling him.
Then go back to your country you can't be a beggar and a complainer take your ratchet culture somewhere else
All those people who were quick to judge Nikki. We will no longer see them
OH MY WORD!!! IF THIS TRUE, THE GUY ACTUALLY IS A GREAT MANIPULATOR.
Jamie is a narcissist. Its clear he is manipulating the situation. Why didn't he post the whole story..so we get to see the whole argument. He only shows us from the point where Nikki looses it and hits his camera while he's pretending to be polite and abused! Why did he have to record her while chasing her out of the house?
Absolutely, a narcissistic boy and his enabling mother, they ganged up against her. Jamie's mom is blind to his manipulative, triggering abuse. He has 3 black women that needs his support and what does he do?...what a disgrace...I pray Nikki stays quiet and concentrates on her healing, girls, peace and health. This guy is a no bueno!
Nikki is violent as well.
She only came for the camera; he has no right to film her & the kids without her approval!!
“Nikki had just been ontop of me punching me because I had told her that I wouldn't speak to her until we coudl have a calm conversation. Our counselor had told me we needed to take a 2 week break from talking until things calmed down.
Nikki was furious I was asking for 2 weeks space from talking to her about anything other than the kids and showed up at the house demanding I talk to her which I refused” This is why he started recording. Justify this. Why is she coming to his house and refusing his request? Oh yeah. Let him tell nikki to stop punching him so he find the phone
Especially the part he was talking about Sarah (Nikki’s late sister). You can see it in the texts.
The fact that she had added him to the girls dentist as a contact person says that Nikki was trying to be cordial eith him.
My two sons always get angry when they and their lady friends get into it and I don't automatically take their sides, as their mother and a female I'm always going to see it from a female point of view. I'm not going to side with them when I know that they are in the wrong, but I'll always will be there for them.
From the time I saw his video I knew this was manipulation at its finest, I am also "team children". I have warned people about taking sides and commenting on videos when you haven't seen it from the start. I've always been told "to explain is to expose".
Every situation is different and you can never say what you will or won't do in a fight or disagreement such as this.....
Exactly
Recall Jamie has health issues. That was the main reason he gave for scaling back on work. For those of you in perfect health thank God. Imagine combining ill health and trauma, also instead of tagging the male partner as the abusive one why don't we consider the evidence. Recall Nikki made it out to look like she paid the school fees. Why are we not pointing out the loopholes in her story? The assumption that all faults must lie with the male partner must end. Recall Depp vs Heard.
It is difficult to say what the mother in law has seen in this relationship, or what she was thinking whilst this was happening. As a Family lawyer I have seen and heard things, you hear the claim then the defence blows the claim out. Praying for anyone going through any kind of abuse OR relationship issues.
Thank you so much for posting this, Fumi. Your thorough research skills are chef’s kiss. Impeccable! (I am a researcher myself). The balanced information you provide encourages critical thinking, fairness, compassion, and empathy for all those involved. I genuinely value you and your channel🥰
I was astonished he mentioned the infidelity and was screaming get out in front of the baby. Neither Grandmother moved to take the baby away from that horrible energy. It was so sad and scary.
What a treacherous situation especially with children involve. I am learning from this situation on how I as a wife and mother react to ups and downs with my husband. I don’t want our daughter traumatized by what I do or say. It isn’t fair. I hope Jaime and Nikki will soon get to a place of peace and respect for the sake of their children to work out their differences.
There is a thin line between love and hate❤
There really isn't. There is only strong emotion conditioned by circumstances. I truly believe that hate is love enshrouded in hurt and other negative elements. Otherwise, love never existed.