I kind of want to get a squad of these and use them as a high mobility harassment unit, a distraction for other units. Give them Linked Targeting Array, to give them a free aim, then drive all over the board, taking pot shots and in general being a pest. I don't expect them to live long, but if it keeps my tanks from being shot at for a couple of turns, it might be worth the expense.
I'm pretty sure this video is incorrect about how this unit uses agile: a compulsory move does indeed trigger agile as it is a standard move, but not a move action.
John Carlson I think you’re right. I did a quick google search before this video to check on the ruling and misinterpreted the part that says “does not count as a move action”
This actually makes STAP Riders a little more survivable than at first blush. Every activation gives you a free dodge and cover 1 at minimum, so you'll negate at least two hits coming through. Do a move action and you can stop three non-crits!
So I was initially underwhelmed by these guys, as it sounds by a lot of people here, that said, they have been performing extremely well in competitive play in the Tabletop Simulator Invader league going on right now.
Feels like droid players are paying an extra tax for these coordinate keywords... What's great about the B1 droids, that they are cheap and have many bodies in a unit, the exact opposite is true about B2 and the new STAP riders. They are expensive and have few bodies in a unit. B2's could have had red defence with just 1 wounds or balanced somehow differently, and STAP riders could've come with 3 models in a unit for 72 points or they could've lowered the point cost... they are releasing new units but I feel like the best units are still the ones that came in the core box, Droidekas as tanky/carnifex units and B1 hordes for board control. IMO
I do look forward to fielding a few of these. I really play heavily on sacrifice to steal activations from my opponent. Getting these guys up in the face of my opponent will pose some sort of threat and slow the movement of their units, especially clones. Soaking up fire supports is SO key to stealing the early game on objectives. Using them for coordinating may be helpful, but I don't think FFG made them for that role. It's more of an added bonus.
I think these guys are going to be fantastic with the bombing run mission. But other than that I think they are more or less like any of the other speeders, and I'm just not a big fan of speeders. Which is a shame as they all look great.
Dude I just want like, Magnaguard so bad- or so many other seperatist units. These guys in a vacuum just feel terrible. Too expensive, too fragile- scooter B1's that I won't be taking in my lists.
meanwhile them performing extremely well in the competitive scene since their release
I kind of want to get a squad of these and use them as a high mobility harassment unit, a distraction for other units. Give them Linked Targeting Array, to give them a free aim, then drive all over the board, taking pot shots and in general being a pest. I don't expect them to live long, but if it keeps my tanks from being shot at for a couple of turns, it might be worth the expense.
I'm pretty sure this video is incorrect about how this unit uses agile: a compulsory move does indeed trigger agile as it is a standard move, but not a move action.
John Carlson I think you’re right. I did a quick google search before this video to check on the ruling and misinterpreted the part that says “does not count as a move action”
@@HollywoodWargaming yeah but agile does not say that it only trigger on move ACTIONS
This actually makes STAP Riders a little more survivable than at first blush. Every activation gives you a free dodge and cover 1 at minimum, so you'll negate at least two hits coming through. Do a move action and you can stop three non-crits!
So I was initially underwhelmed by these guys, as it sounds by a lot of people here, that said, they have been performing extremely well in competitive play in the Tabletop Simulator Invader league going on right now.
Whether they’re good or not they always looked pretty cool
Agreed.
Actually you got that agile and compulsary wrong its was clarified that they get a dodge token
Ben Niediek Yes I have since realized that. Definitely helps these guys quite a bit and brings them from being abysmal to just sub-par IMO
Feels like droid players are paying an extra tax for these coordinate keywords... What's great about the B1 droids, that they are cheap and have many bodies in a unit, the exact opposite is true about B2 and the new STAP riders. They are expensive and have few bodies in a unit.
B2's could have had red defence with just 1 wounds or balanced somehow differently, and STAP riders could've come with 3 models in a unit for 72 points or they could've lowered the point cost... they are releasing new units but I feel like the best units are still the ones that came in the core box, Droidekas as tanky/carnifex units and B1 hordes for board control. IMO
Agreed
I think the aat is by far the best seperatist unit he just wins me every game
I do look forward to fielding a few of these. I really play heavily on sacrifice to steal activations from my opponent. Getting these guys up in the face of my opponent will pose some sort of threat and slow the movement of their units, especially clones. Soaking up fire supports is SO key to stealing the early game on objectives. Using them for coordinating may be helpful, but I don't think FFG made them for that role. It's more of an added bonus.
Antonio Gonzales Not gonna lie I wouldn’t mind having an Ep I invasion force with 3 units of these.
How many droid stap should get
I think these guys are going to be fantastic with the bombing run mission. But other than that I think they are more or less like any of the other speeders, and I'm just not a big fan of speeders. Which is a shame as they all look great.
Can't you just use your AI: move action to pivot if moving would be a problem?
Dude I just want like, Magnaguard so bad- or so many other seperatist units. These guys in a vacuum just feel terrible. Too expensive, too fragile- scooter B1's that I won't be taking in my lists.
I'm sure Magna Guard will show up sooner than later. Definitely one of the core CIS droids we see show up throughout the prequels.
As a separatist player I feel like we keep getting boned with these new units