My secret to this trick is to keep your front foot sideways and keep your legs locked with your body while you spin. If your front foot is pointed like a kickflip it's easy for it to slip off and if your legs aren't locked in sync with your body the board gets away from you.
Board setup matters a lot more than we care to admit. For me, scoop tricks and spin tricks are sooooo much easier on short wheelbases (14" and Ace trucks). Just so much more responsive if they're a tad shorter as well like 31.25". As soon as i increase wheelbase, length, or tail length everything get's all messed up. I'm on the shorter side 5' 10" though.
Hahaha, Ace truck really give me some advantage beside my deck, I tried treflip on my local deck Shipwreck skateboard then boom treflip first try and I never close to land treflip on standar deck and today I just tried switch front foot impossible after 10 minute I land one, really short tail and nose and deep concave give u some advantage
Yo thank you so much. I love how much you actually analyze and explain your tricks and reasons for them. My brain works in a very similar way. Thank you for struggling for this one I’m 100% it will make me and who ever else watches this struggle a hell of a lot less🙏🙏🙏
Great video! Chris Cole really does have the best back 3s. A lot of peeps do them "all scoop" with the front foot just flapping around, and that's fine, but his are really more of an ollie, with both feet on the board, and I think that looks the best.
i’ve been tryna get this trick for a couple months now and idk why but i find myself coming back to the same back 3 vids to find lil details that will help me and so far it’s been working like i can do them properly like i can rotate but i cannot stick it and roll away but this vid helps so much
Congrats on your back tre, I`ve been doing Full Cabs for many years but as soon as I tried bs 360 with too much confidence, I got a reality check, That arms in tip looks interesting, maybe I´ll give another go.
I do it with my front foot on parallel to the trucks u know? Like an Ollie not like a flip, like 5 fingers away from bolts, finally when I start to rotate I try to push down my front foot like a boned Ollie, sorry for my English I hope it helps
Great detail about the arms. I'll start trying them again soon, I wonder if it will help! One thing I think could be hard is convince myself to actually pull my arms close to my body, as usually they automatically go all over the place to maintain proper balance when landing. Keep up the good work!
Brother your tutorials are sick as fuck!I always watch you and another guy from nyc he mentioned a very good thing with the rotations you forgot to mention,when winding up your shoulders ypu gotta also spin your hips to complete the rotations,i put ypur tips and his tips together and back 360 fucken wooooork!!!!Big love!
This video really helped man. I pivot my back 3s so bad I hate them, they are basically 180 pivots ew gross hate myself. So watching this is super helpful. I am going to take all this advice and just keep grinding them like you were doing. My biggest problem is I seem to just stop turning once I get to 180° I think not popping enough and my arms not rotating properly stopping my turn . My back nollie 360s feel great. I get that whip feeling with them and I feel like I barely have to try to do them, but I can't seem to get that same feeling with the back 360. And the harder I force them the worse the just seem to get. Anyways thank you for the help.
Maybe it would help if you try them off a kicker or a bank, so you have more hangtime. That way, you maybe don't have to rotate as agressively, since you have more time to do the spin. I have yet to try this myself, though, so this is more of a 'sharing my ideas with you' than an actuall tip haha.
I swear that what you do with your arms is at least 40% of landing a nice clean trick, wahtever it is. So ccol to see your insight with this. Chris Cole - What form.
Would appreciate it if you could segment the video using the youtube options or include a list of time stamps so we could break it dow and rewind to certain points in the video:)
Definitely don't have these on lock, land maybe 3-5/10 attempts, but I've personally found a few rules that help a lot to follow (and tend to hurt to deviate from lol): -Stance like a tre flip. And an optional addition to this first rule is to also point your front foot to the nose as much as you comfortably can, I've found that this allows the board to get into that primo wrap around the back foot easier while scooping. -Head and shoulders go first, your hips and legs will naturally want to follow their rotation/trajectory. -Imo most important rule here. Lean slightly back and toe-side when making your head and shoulders start the rotation first. This will make the scoop you create from your hips and legs trailing behind your head and shoulders during the second half of the trick require less effort, and follow your body more predictably. -Look down (sounds obvious but it's important). -Pay attention to your front shoulder during the second half of the trick, specifically, make sure it closes during those last 90 degrees or else you'll be doing a bs 270 while your board does a 360, or both will be doing 270. -Last one. Sounds contradictory, but dont overthink or over-exert them. If you feel yourself starting to try really hard, stop, dial back the effort, and slow them down. Also in the same vein of this rule, a good way to warm up for trying the trick is to do 5-10 bs 360 reverts and then start trying to add a scoop into the mix. Thats all the trick really is after all. Hope this helps someone. He has them better than me, just thought id share some rules I've accumulated after 5 or so years into this trick.
@@coyoterobshreds do a bunch of impossibles before this trick the same scoop for the impossible is the same scoop you should have so your backfoot could just go around easier
landing with back wheels first which causes too much pivot. decent way to practice but not a solid 360 and land. youll figure it out just keep experimenting. the ones you land the best are the ones where your front foot slighty is above the board as u come around. ive seen others do them clean when they do that. thats when your board is level enough to land clean, no pivot.
My secret to this trick is to keep your front foot sideways and keep your legs locked with your body while you spin. If your front foot is pointed like a kickflip it's easy for it to slip off and if your legs aren't locked in sync with your body the board gets away from you.
Board setup matters a lot more than we care to admit. For me, scoop tricks and spin tricks are sooooo much easier on short wheelbases (14" and Ace trucks). Just so much more responsive if they're a tad shorter as well like 31.25". As soon as i increase wheelbase, length, or tail length everything get's all messed up. I'm on the shorter side 5' 10" though.
Hahaha, Ace truck really give me some advantage beside my deck, I tried treflip on my local deck Shipwreck skateboard then boom treflip first try and I never close to land treflip on standar deck and today I just tried switch front foot impossible after 10 minute I land one, really short tail and nose and deep concave give u some advantage
What width u usually ride John? Just curious for my own research study proposes over here
Rob you‘re by far my fav skate scientist!
thank you!
Yo thank you so much. I love how much you actually analyze and explain your tricks and reasons for them. My brain works in a very similar way. Thank you for struggling for this one I’m 100% it will make me and who ever else watches this struggle a hell of a lot less🙏🙏🙏
thank you! this one was so frustrating glad I could help
Great video! Chris Cole really does have the best back 3s. A lot of peeps do them "all scoop" with the front foot just flapping around, and that's fine, but his are really more of an ollie, with both feet on the board, and I think that looks the best.
he is so good
i’ve been tryna get this trick for a couple months now and idk why but i find myself coming back to the same back 3 vids to find lil details that will help me and so far it’s been working like i can do them properly like i can rotate but i cannot stick it and roll away but this vid helps so much
Hyped to try these later. Thanks Rob🙏
you got it
damn imma try that next skate session, thank you!, appreciate you working hard for this
Cool watching the progression bro. You must have been dizzy though
That was a very good back 3 dude. Great and very clear tips. THX Rob
Thx a million Rob! This is hands down (pun intended) the best bs 360 tutorial ever! Hopefully I’ll learn my dream trick now 👊🤩
happy to help after 20 years of skateboarding a few months ago I was like dood I have to learn back 3 lol its one of the tricks that got away!
Great video,thanks for showing your process of learning and getting better at bs 360's!
awesome explanation of this whole process man, this is the first vid of yours I’ve seen and I was really loving it.
Good for you dude. Great tip with the arm positioning. Looked sick.
So underrated man. Great content and depth
thank for coming back, we missed you
I appreciate that!
You the man! I feel like now I can go out there and bs 3 like Chris Cole.
Your videos are bloody great man. Definitely wish you uploaded more, you’re onto it and seem like a good dude. Cheers from NZ 🤙
thanks man!
Congrats on your back tre, I`ve been doing Full Cabs for many years but as soon as I tried bs 360 with too much confidence, I got a reality check, That arms in tip looks interesting, maybe I´ll give another go.
thanks for the 360 analysis 👍🏼
Hi coyote! Would you consider doing a trick tip on nollie 360 pop shuvits (same direction for nollie tre)?
Good ass video. That back 3 was sick af. Super hyped to try them now
Pull ur arms tips was very convincing….thank you
You’re welcome
I do it with my front foot on parallel to the trucks u know? Like an Ollie not like a flip, like 5 fingers away from bolts, finally when I start to rotate I try to push down my front foot like a boned Ollie, sorry for my English I hope it helps
Great detail about the arms. I'll start trying them again soon, I wonder if it will help! One thing I think could be hard is convince myself to actually pull my arms close to my body, as usually they automatically go all over the place to maintain proper balance when landing. Keep up the good work!
thank you
Brother your tutorials are sick as fuck!I always watch you and another guy from nyc he mentioned a very good thing with the rotations you forgot to mention,when winding up your shoulders ypu gotta also spin your hips to complete the rotations,i put ypur tips and his tips together and back 360 fucken wooooork!!!!Big love!
This video really helped man. I pivot my back 3s so bad I hate them, they are basically 180 pivots ew gross hate myself. So watching this is super helpful. I am going to take all this advice and just keep grinding them like you were doing. My biggest problem is I seem to just stop turning once I get to 180° I think not popping enough and my arms not rotating properly stopping my turn . My back nollie 360s feel great. I get that whip feeling with them and I feel like I barely have to try to do them, but I can't seem to get that same feeling with the back 360. And the harder I force them the worse the just seem to get. Anyways thank you for the help.
Maybe it would help if you try them off a kicker or a bank, so you have more hangtime. That way, you maybe don't have to rotate as agressively, since you have more time to do the spin. I have yet to try this myself, though, so this is more of a 'sharing my ideas with you' than an actuall tip haha.
welcome back!!
do u think u could do a tutorial on nollie-ing up things?
What camera do you use to record the skating and do you use a tri pod? Thanks Rob ❤️
Hi, could you make a tutorial fakie hardflip 180?
I swear that what you do with your arms is at least 40% of landing a nice clean trick, wahtever it is. So ccol to see your insight with this. Chris Cole - What form.
Would appreciate it if you could segment the video using the youtube options or include a list of time stamps so we could break it dow and rewind to certain points in the video:)
You should do a video trying to get a BS 360 kickflip. Would love to get your take on that one cause it feels impossible lol.
I will try
@@coyoterobshreds Good luck my man and be safe!
Cool... Doubt I will be able to do this one though.
Do you think the arm pull in thing works for Fs 360s too?
Love this video
Fs blunt on ledge trick tip?
It's a weird back tailslide just on a fs curb. The motion is the same for me. Goodspeed💨💨💨
@@michaellimbeck5671 Thx for the tips! I already know this trick, just I want it on lock, and if Rob has some tips/hacks it would be great
Awesome video
Sick explanation
quick question when I do the back 3 both my feet land on the nose any suggestions?
Or my front foot misses and doesn’t land on the board at all
I saw yuto do that same arm technique!
The one with the ballerina arms was the best looking one. Not even joking
Definitely don't have these on lock, land maybe 3-5/10 attempts, but I've personally found a few rules that help a lot to follow (and tend to hurt to deviate from lol):
-Stance like a tre flip. And an optional addition to this first rule is to also point your front foot to the nose as much as you comfortably can, I've found that this allows the board to get into that primo wrap around the back foot easier while scooping.
-Head and shoulders go first, your hips and legs will naturally want to follow their rotation/trajectory.
-Imo most important rule here. Lean slightly back and toe-side when making your head and shoulders start the rotation first. This will make the scoop you create from your hips and legs trailing behind your head and shoulders during the second half of the trick require less effort, and follow your body more predictably.
-Look down (sounds obvious but it's important).
-Pay attention to your front shoulder during the second half of the trick, specifically, make sure it closes during those last 90 degrees or else you'll be doing a bs 270 while your board does a 360, or both will be doing 270.
-Last one. Sounds contradictory, but dont overthink or over-exert them. If you feel yourself starting to try really hard, stop, dial back the effort, and slow them down. Also in the same vein of this rule, a good way to warm up for trying the trick is to do 5-10 bs 360 reverts and then start trying to add a scoop into the mix. Thats all the trick really is after all.
Hope this helps someone. He has them better than me, just thought id share some rules I've accumulated after 5 or so years into this trick.
Yo man, how about nollie late?!?!?
Cool!
Ty for this
no problem
Shawty wake up, that new rob just dropped
aye
El mejor tutorial hasta yo le entendí
Very informative 😁
thank you!
Good job!!!
Thanks!!
this trick makes you go insane
facts
@@coyoterobshreds do a bunch of impossibles before this trick the same scoop for the impossible is the same scoop you should have so your backfoot could just go around easier
Sickkkkkk!!
duuuuude!
landing with back wheels first which causes too much pivot. decent way to practice but not a solid 360 and land. youll figure it out just keep experimenting. the ones you land the best are the ones where your front foot slighty is above the board as u come around. ive seen others do them clean when they do that. thats when your board is level enough to land clean, no pivot.
You had it from the beginning, every time you took weight off the front foot you had it,
Rob ily man :0
Try it offf a curb trust
fuck yeah bro
JESUS LOVES YOU SO MUCH MORE THEN YOU COULD EVER IMAGINE ❤❤
amen
the secret is hang your back toes off of the toe side pocket. no joke, it works...
What if u dont have the controll over the trick
Now fs 360
I have that video already!
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I haven't watched yet but i already guarantee this is way longer than it needs to be.