I have been using n computing L300 for about 2 yrs in a commercial tire business. I have about 4 work stations to handle my customers,inventory,invoicing, and many other apps. The L300 has worked flawlessly for over 2 yrs except for general maintenance and upgrades. I have this network running on a supermicro intel quad core server 2x 250gb hd's on raid, and 8gb of ram. I have this running on server 2003. These units where not built for gaming period they are design for apps
m not able to use form filling software only because the company says that it wont work on n computing. They advise that you should have individual cpu connected to the monitor. Is there a solution to this ?
We have a PC that uses 10 watts (no NComputing!) but it's supposed to be 8 watts, the only thing that makes it use up more power is the monitor, keyboard, and mouse (speakers?). Hooking up an NComputing access to it would be awesome though (can only support maybe 3 people lol).
This might actually be a licensing issue. If you are running on Windows, Microsoft has a separate licensing program for Shared Resource Computing under Windows MultiPoint Server to allow OEM SRC providers to make this work.
Would you please help me understand if it is possibility to run 20 x550 or L300 clients on one PC or server having 4 PCI cards, with 25-seat vSpace Server concurrent user license for vSpace Client. and how? pleas
En la empresa q trabajo compraron 5 equipos de estos, pero al instalar y empezar a trabajar el CPU que hacia de hosts se quedaba totalmente paralizado, las aplicaciones que se ejecutaban era: su sistema cliente servidor, ofimatica, correo e internet, lo extrano que el equipo se quebada congelado de 2 a 3 veces por dia, por lo tanto habia q apagar el equipo en su totalidad perdiendo la informacion ingresada en las terminales
Teresa me podrias por favor decir cuanto te cobraron por la instalacion y que computador ocupas y cuanto sale tu cuenta de electricidad. Gracias de antemano, yo vivo en PVR. Salu2
No se si sea el mismo sistema, pero se de algunos Ciber que trabajan con este sistema y no les he escuchado queja la reduccion en costos, energia, espacio, torres, y ahorro en los costos de las licencias. El kit de licencias para el win7 y el office 2010 oscila entre los 750 mil pesos para cada equipo, no hay licencias multiusuarios. Creo que pedir una demostracion antes de comprar seria saludable, sobretodo para entender cuales son los requerimientos minimos del servidor.
NComputing can be used ONLY for simple office computing, and cannot be used for full-graphic applications. Simply use it for common office purpose (MS Office / OpenOffice), and you'll get efficient IT environment. But if you need to use it for graphical/designing/animation/full-featured PC games purpose, then forget NComputing.
por lo tanto de acuerdo a esta experiencia en mi opinion sirve solo para aplicaciones por no decir una sola aplicacion que no requiera de casi nada de procesador ni memoria, solo asi creeria que funcionaria de una manera menos tortuosa, o en su defecto para hacer consultas de informacion de un sistema transaccional
The NComputing L-series has one flaw, it does not allow each user to be able to connect any pheripherals to his or her keyboard like an external hard drive, an external memory device of all kinds and types, etc.
bonjour j"aimerais ouvir un cyber cafe comme projet avec le N-computing je trouve bien cette topologies dans un cyber café mais jaimerais savoir si des clients vienennent se connecter et qu"ils veulent brancher une clé USB comment es ce que ça ce passe
lo mas extrano de todo es que conetar una memoria USB este tambien hacia que se bloquee el equipo y por ende todos los conectados al hosts, y por el ultimo habia en ocacion que ya no funcionaba nada ya que habia q bajar actualizaciones de sofware para que funcione el hosts como para sus respectivos micro pcs.
@mrOXYN1 and to add to the question, how about those massive multiplayer games today? can the server handle them all at once? what spec should the shared computer have?
ncomputing device connected machine me hum AutoCAD 2017 or Android studio and visual studio 2017 .. Is it possible to run and work smoothly these software......I have a pc i3 third generation & 8 GB RAM
really is it good? i am facing so many problems......poor visual, graphics, ....etc it is not supporting so many sw's..it is very slow even with high configuration server
A clever solution would be to buy a local 14 inch laptop like RDP or Iball for around Rs 10,000. They don't consume much electricity either but give advantages of full fledged PCs.
If Windows XP and 7 can only be used to VDI, why Vspace allows multiple sessions 1:N when being used with these OS? It is very clear that they keep on supplying multiterminal products to be used with XP and Windows 7.
X-series minimum recommended hardware confi gurations Users :1-3, 4-7, 8-11 CPU :2.4 GHz or any dual core, 3.0 GHz or any dual or quad core , 3.0 GHz or any dual or quad core Memory:1 GB, 1-2 GB, 2 or more GB
PARTE 4 POR ESO NO PUEDES ACTUALIZAR TU SISTEMA OPERATIVO DE SP2 A SP3 SI ELLOS NO SACAN UN PARCHE,, Y MUCHO MENOS A SP4... YA QUE MICROSOFT PODRIA ARREGLAR ESE DESCUBRIMIENTO EN UN SERVICE PACK...... OTRA DE LAS COSAS ES QUE UNA VEZ QUE TIENES CONECTADAS TUS TERMINALES TE PIDE QUE LAS REGISTRES ONLINE O SI NO TE COMIENZAN A MARCAR ERRORES LAS TERMINALES Y EL REGISTRO ONLINE A VECES NO FUNCIONA Y EL REGISTRO VIA CORREO PUES LA OTRA OPCION.....
If you want to use for gaming or graphical software, diskless solution is better than NComputing since that diskless desktop possess processor, RAM, & graphic card which is essential for all the heavy loaded programs.
bophed that doesnt make it a lie. it just means there is a glitch in your system. the failed deployments are usualy server issues, and there are many poeple with solid solutions in place its all about using best practices when using Thin clients they are not PC's and should not be treated as such.
@bophed OK, I never implemented Thin Clients nor know their solution much but there must be a reason for you problem to happen regularly. I think there is another solution than reinstalling but it's unfortunate that even nComputing staff can't fix this. I hope the reason why it happens and the solution will come soon. :)
You can support multiple users on computer without killing your desktop and buying extra hardware. And you can not call your computer a PC when you multi-use. Cuz it ain't personal no more.
PARTE 2 EN LA REALIDAD TRABAJO EN UNA EMPRESA EN DONDE COMPRARON ESTA "SOLUCION" E INICIALMENTE PUSIERON UNA PC CON 3GHZ DE PROCESADOR, 3 GB DE RAM Y 80 GB DE HD, ESTO SOLO PARA CUATRO ESTACIONES.. CON WIN XP PRO SP2,,, Y EN LAS TERMINALES SOLO TRABAJABAN EDITANDO DOCUMENTOS DE WORD, EXCEL Y POWER POINT.. EL RESULTADO ERA QUE DESPUES DE NO MAS DE UNA HORA EL SERVIDOR COMENZABA A CONGELARSE E INEBITABLEMENTE SE TENIA QUE REINICIAR DE BOTONAZO, YA QUE NO RESPONDIA, VIA LAN, NI LOCAL.
Before I thought the virtual PC hub was an actual PC until I searched up the company and turned out to be just another hub connecting to another PC. Who knew? Oh, everyone else...
@linux0full VAYA ME SIENTO BIEN... HE SALVADO UN ALMA....JAJAJAJAJAJA... La "solucion" que encontramos para "convivir" con esta tortura (perdon tecnologia) fue montar una pc virtual con vmware y darle botonazo virtual aprox. cada 3 dias, y tenemos otras pc virtuales como backups, ya que irremediablemente el SO de tanto apagon y aparte, no se porque, se vuelven muy lentos, pues termina muriendo. Se me olvido dar un punto a favor de estas terminales: Ahorran Energia Elextrica XD.
@bophed Does not surprise me, that they would over hype this, my quad core AMD Phenom, uses most of it's CPU resources just running some 3D cad software, with Nividia cards in SLI mode. and that's using XP. they have this all preloaded off an HD or SSD, and not processing in real time over a network, sounds like a big joke if ya ask me.
Hay una empresa en Mexico llamada VRA soluciones que distribuye estas terminales, a mi me funcionó muchisimo esta solución, tengo un cyber con 15 computadoras y todas funcionan excelente, ellos te orientan desde el principio hasta el final, son muy atentos y van directamente al lugar donde las quieres colocar y te las instalan super rápido
To be fair I think with todays computers with 4 gi ram and make the main computer have 3 solid state drives then I could see a home that has 3 computers all could play world of Warcraft with no problem.
2) NComputing keep on selling Multiterminal versions to Windows XP and Windows 7 market. They are driving their users to believe they are not doing anything wrong about Microsoft´s licensing. They say Windows XP and Windows 7 should be used only with VDI architecture 1:1, however their unique products that can be used on VDI is L series, but the X series and U series products are also available for download to run on XP and 7.
y para concluir el precio no se justifica tanto con la del precio de un PC normal, sin considerar el costo del monitor, teclado y mouse que este l230 tambien lo requiere.
You dont deep freeze you image? Yikes! Roaming profiles as well and you're all set! Sounds like you're updating nightly and letting users have local admin access. I've had terminals running for over 6 years now without issue.
PARTE 5 SI YA TE ENBARCARON CON ESTA TECNOLOGIA PUES TE RECOMIENDO QUE SOLO LAS UTILIZES CON UN CPU DUAL O QUAD CORE,, NO PONIENDOLE MUCHAS TERMINALES Y SOBRE TODO QUE SE ENCARGUEN DE ALGUNA APLICACION DE CAPTURA O QUE NO CONSUMA MUCHA MEMORIA O PROCESAMIENTO... O QUE LAS UTILIZES COMO FRISBEE.... EN RESUMEN LO QUE ESTE TIPO PROPONE EN EL VIDEO ES COMPLETAMENTE UNA MENTIRA..
Lol we have 1 PC in our classroom with 4 of these N-computing things (so we have 5 'PCs')... They're all garbage, it takes them 3 minutes to open the internet etc...
This is a lie. My company started testing Ncomputing 2 years ago. And the stations will stop allowing you to logon. We have to format an reinstall the OS about every 6 months or sooner to repair it. The ncomputing people have been to our facility twice and can not fix this issue.
PARTE 6 EN RESUMEN LO QUE ESTE TIPO PROPONE EN EL VIDEO ES COMPLETAMENTE UNA MENTIRA.. SI QUIERES VIRTUALIZAR EN SERIO APUNTA HACIA SOLUCIONES ROBUSTAS COMO VMWARE, HYPER-V O CITRIX,, OBVIAMENTE CONTEMPLANDO INFRAESTRUCTURA (SERVIDORES, SWITCHES, STORAGES, ETC, ETC) TAMBIEN ROBUSTA. POSDATA: OBVIAMENTE OLVIDATE DE JUEGOS Y COSAS QUE REQUIERAN BUEN VIDEO
wow its so old technology that i am watching this 10years after the video uploaded..
do require the Ncomputing for each monitor?
Good Device & Good Information
I have been using n computing L300 for about 2 yrs in a commercial tire business.
I have about 4 work stations to handle my customers,inventory,invoicing, and many other apps. The L300 has worked flawlessly for over 2 yrs except for general maintenance and upgrades. I have this network running on a supermicro intel quad core server 2x 250gb hd's on raid, and 8gb of ram. I have this running on server 2003.
These units where not built for gaming period they are design for apps
Wonderful technology
thanks for advice
One question: I have L300 there is some solution so that the videos can be seen without flickering. Give me a suggestion please.
Is a very innovative technology which helps reduce cost, reduce space, etc.
Which is the best configaration PC for n-computing, please specify!
m not able to use form filling software only because the company says that it wont work on n computing. They advise that you should have individual cpu connected to the monitor.
Is there a solution to this ?
Super sir
can it handle for gaming? i mean all monitors do gaming?
We have a PC that uses 10 watts (no NComputing!) but it's supposed to be 8 watts, the only thing that makes it use up more power is the monitor, keyboard, and mouse (speakers?). Hooking up an NComputing access to it would be awesome though (can only support maybe 3 people lol).
can you use this with VMware vsphere on a virtual pc
This might actually be a licensing issue. If you are running on Windows, Microsoft has a separate licensing program for Shared Resource Computing under Windows MultiPoint Server to allow OEM SRC providers to make this work.
is this applicable in heavy user games? at a time?
Would you please help me understand if it is possibility to run 20 x550 or L300 clients on one PC or server having 4 PCI cards, with 25-seat vSpace Server concurrent user license for vSpace Client. and how? pleas
En la empresa q trabajo compraron 5 equipos de estos, pero al instalar y empezar a trabajar el CPU que hacia de hosts se quedaba totalmente paralizado, las aplicaciones que se ejecutaban era: su sistema cliente servidor, ofimatica, correo e internet, lo extrano que el equipo se quebada congelado de 2 a 3 veces por dia, por lo tanto habia q apagar el equipo en su totalidad perdiendo la informacion ingresada en las terminales
how to setup ncomputing devices L130 stactically or dynamically on server 2003 if one ethernet ( LAN card ) fails other ethernrt ( LAN card )?
How can the host server send 30 desktop displays out to the clients if you do not need 30 graphics cards on the host/server?
Teresa me podrias por favor decir cuanto te cobraron por la instalacion y que computador ocupas y cuanto sale tu cuenta de electricidad. Gracias de antemano, yo vivo en PVR. Salu2
What CPU was used in this Video? and How many Users could work nicely?
No se si sea el mismo sistema, pero se de algunos Ciber que trabajan con este sistema y no les he escuchado queja la reduccion en costos, energia, espacio, torres, y ahorro en los costos de las licencias. El kit de licencias para el win7 y el office 2010 oscila entre los 750 mil pesos para cada equipo, no hay licencias multiusuarios. Creo que pedir una demostracion antes de comprar seria saludable, sobretodo para entender cuales son los requerimientos minimos del servidor.
NComputing can be used ONLY for simple office computing, and cannot be used for full-graphic applications. Simply use it for common office purpose (MS Office / OpenOffice), and you'll get efficient IT environment. But if you need to use it for graphical/designing/animation/full-featured PC games purpose, then forget NComputing.
por lo tanto de acuerdo a esta experiencia en mi opinion sirve solo para aplicaciones por no decir una sola aplicacion que no requiera de casi nada de procesador ni memoria, solo asi creeria que funcionaria de una manera menos tortuosa, o en su defecto para hacer consultas de informacion de un sistema transaccional
The NComputing L-series has one flaw, it does not allow each user to be able to connect any pheripherals to his or her keyboard like an external hard drive, an external memory device of all kinds and types, etc.
Cooooool
Can I upgrade Ram in thinclient
im thinking about starting a PC LAN GAMING CENTER, is this ideal for gaming?
bonjour j"aimerais ouvir un cyber cafe comme projet avec le N-computing je trouve bien cette topologies dans un cyber café mais jaimerais savoir si des clients vienennent se connecter et qu"ils veulent brancher une clé USB comment es ce que ça ce passe
hello sir/maam good day.....NComputing can use gaming like dota, ROS, pubg, other games......please reply..........thank you!!!!!!!
lo mas extrano de todo es que conetar una memoria USB este tambien hacia que se bloquee el equipo y por ende todos los conectados al hosts, y por el ultimo habia en ocacion que ya no funcionaba nada ya que habia q bajar actualizaciones de sofware para que funcione el hosts como para sus respectivos micro pcs.
Where can I buy one
is much better if I used Intel Quad processors? is it good for network gaming??? and how much does it cost...>?? please I need reply... thx!!!
I have single user tally accounting software now I want to use in 2 monitor at a time with ncomputing is it possible?
BUY THE L300 N COMPUTING DEVICE SERIES
were i can buy in mexico?
@mrOXYN1 and to add to the question, how about those massive multiplayer games today? can the server handle them all at once? what spec should the shared computer have?
Buy Hp's Z8, lol...
ncomputing device connected machine me hum AutoCAD 2017 or Android studio and visual studio 2017 .. Is it possible to run and work smoothly these software......I have a pc i3 third generation & 8 GB RAM
Check my video
really is it good?
i am facing so many problems......poor visual, graphics, ....etc
it is not supporting so many sw's..it is very slow even with high configuration server
A clever solution would be to buy a local 14 inch laptop like RDP or Iball for around Rs 10,000. They don't consume much electricity either but give advantages of full fledged PCs.
@angelickgrace NEvuH!!!!
If Windows XP and 7 can only be used to VDI, why Vspace allows multiple sessions 1:N when being used with these OS? It is very clear that they keep on supplying multiterminal products to be used with XP and Windows 7.
X-series minimum recommended hardware confi gurations
Users :1-3, 4-7, 8-11
CPU :2.4 GHz or any dual core, 3.0 GHz or any dual or quad core , 3.0 GHz or any dual or quad core
Memory:1 GB, 1-2 GB, 2 or more GB
PARTE 4
POR ESO NO PUEDES ACTUALIZAR TU SISTEMA OPERATIVO DE SP2 A SP3 SI ELLOS NO SACAN UN PARCHE,, Y MUCHO MENOS A SP4... YA QUE MICROSOFT PODRIA ARREGLAR ESE DESCUBRIMIENTO EN UN SERVICE PACK......
OTRA DE LAS COSAS ES QUE UNA VEZ QUE TIENES CONECTADAS TUS TERMINALES TE PIDE QUE LAS REGISTRES ONLINE O SI NO TE COMIENZAN A MARCAR ERRORES LAS TERMINALES Y EL REGISTRO ONLINE A VECES NO FUNCIONA Y EL REGISTRO VIA CORREO PUES LA OTRA OPCION.....
If you want to use for gaming or graphical software, diskless solution is better than NComputing since that diskless desktop possess processor, RAM, & graphic card which is essential for all the heavy loaded programs.
can i play simple games with Ncomputing like warcraft or dota? plz reply.. thanks.. it would be a great help.. :)
bophed that doesnt make it a lie. it just means there is a glitch in your system. the failed deployments are usualy server issues, and there are many poeple with solid solutions in place its all about using best practices when using Thin clients they are not PC's and should not be treated as such.
@sjvietboy408 dude ofcourse not. this is good for office apps only
can i play games with Ncomputing? only simple games like warcraft / dota ..
I have a Ncomouter at school... Couldnt load this Video...
daniel vang that's probably a really old pc
I am interested but so afraid of the management and maintence
Please I need more videos to watch well
Select a user to disconnect so that you may login, there are to many users logged in RR-PC\Administrator. How can I fix this
pleas i need de link to download the vspace software
can i used digital signature token in n computing?
amit@rep.ncomputing.com yes you can
No word about a price
@bophed OK, I never implemented Thin Clients nor know their solution much but there must be a reason for you problem to happen regularly. I think there is another solution than reinstalling but it's unfortunate that even nComputing staff can't fix this. I hope the reason why it happens and the solution will come soon. :)
You can support multiple users on computer without killing your desktop and buying extra hardware.
And you can not call your computer a PC when you multi-use.
Cuz it ain't personal no more.
PARTE 2
EN LA REALIDAD TRABAJO EN UNA EMPRESA EN DONDE COMPRARON ESTA "SOLUCION" E INICIALMENTE PUSIERON UNA PC CON 3GHZ DE PROCESADOR, 3 GB DE RAM Y 80 GB DE HD, ESTO SOLO PARA CUATRO ESTACIONES.. CON WIN XP PRO SP2,,, Y EN LAS TERMINALES SOLO TRABAJABAN EDITANDO DOCUMENTOS DE WORD, EXCEL Y POWER POINT.. EL RESULTADO ERA QUE DESPUES DE NO MAS DE UNA HORA EL SERVIDOR COMENZABA A CONGELARSE E INEBITABLEMENTE SE TENIA QUE REINICIAR DE BOTONAZO, YA QUE NO RESPONDIA, VIA LAN, NI LOCAL.
Before I thought the virtual PC hub was an actual PC until I searched up the company and turned out to be just another hub connecting to another PC. Who knew? Oh, everyone else...
@linux0full
VAYA ME SIENTO BIEN... HE SALVADO UN ALMA....JAJAJAJAJAJA...
La "solucion" que encontramos para "convivir" con esta tortura (perdon tecnologia) fue montar una pc virtual con vmware y darle botonazo virtual aprox. cada 3 dias, y tenemos otras pc virtuales como backups, ya que irremediablemente el SO de tanto apagon y aparte, no se porque, se vuelven muy lentos, pues termina muriendo.
Se me olvido dar un punto a favor de estas terminales: Ahorran Energia Elextrica XD.
TE AHORRA MANTENIMIENTO, DINERO, ESPACIO , ENERGÍA ELÉCTRICA,ETC.
@bophed Does not surprise me, that they would over hype this, my quad core AMD Phenom, uses most of it's CPU resources just running some 3D cad software, with Nividia cards in SLI mode. and that's using XP. they have this all preloaded off an HD or SSD, and not processing in real time over a network, sounds like a big joke if ya ask me.
Hay una empresa en Mexico llamada VRA soluciones que distribuye estas terminales, a mi me funcionó muchisimo esta solución, tengo un cyber con 15 computadoras y todas funcionan excelente, ellos te orientan desde el principio hasta el final, son muy atentos y van directamente al lugar donde las quieres colocar y te las instalan super rápido
What about AMD Processor
will it allow 30 gamers all at once ?
HP Z8... No issues dude. Three rtx 8000, 8GB - 56 cores processor, and 48 tb storage and 3TB ram 🤣🤣🤣
To be fair I think with todays computers with 4 gi ram and make the main computer have 3 solid state drives then I could see a home that has 3 computers all could play world of Warcraft with no problem.
RUclips forgot to say that uf Marín comouter crashes 30 hosts Will Also be unusable...
my school has them and they are so slow it takes 2 minutes co connect to google on enternet explorer
2) NComputing keep on selling Multiterminal versions to Windows XP and Windows 7 market. They are driving their users to believe they are not doing anything wrong about Microsoft´s licensing. They say Windows XP and Windows 7 should be used only with VDI architecture 1:1, however their unique products that can be used on VDI is L series, but the X series and U series products are also available for download to run on XP and 7.
What is its price sir
Check my video
TRY AND DEPLOY AN X-WINDOWS SYSTEM, WITH CLIENTS AND SERVERS. THE ENTIRE SYSTEM IS MEANT FOR A GUI ENVIRONMENT.
Is this good for gaming?
no
Wow i'm looking forward to it!
y para concluir el precio no se justifica tanto con la del precio de un PC normal, sin considerar el costo del monitor, teclado y mouse que este l230 tambien lo requiere.
You dont deep freeze you image? Yikes! Roaming profiles as well and you're all set! Sounds like you're updating nightly and letting users have local admin access. I've had terminals running for over 6 years now without issue.
Would like to have this for home but so far the pricesI see are like $3,000 ewwww! too much
this is old go with l300
@alex14469 lol
R u alive in 2022
Si quieren información de terminales cliente ligero pueden comunicarse conmigo, con gusto los atenderé bebanda@jaspitec.com
PARTE 5
SI YA TE ENBARCARON CON ESTA TECNOLOGIA PUES TE RECOMIENDO QUE SOLO LAS UTILIZES CON UN CPU DUAL O QUAD CORE,, NO PONIENDOLE MUCHAS TERMINALES Y SOBRE TODO QUE SE ENCARGUEN DE ALGUNA APLICACION DE CAPTURA O QUE NO CONSUMA MUCHA MEMORIA O PROCESAMIENTO... O QUE LAS UTILIZES COMO FRISBEE....
EN RESUMEN LO QUE ESTE TIPO PROPONE EN EL VIDEO ES COMPLETAMENTE UNA MENTIRA..
video is in english! so write in english
mo-9689313924
@alex14469 LAMO!!! hahahahahahhaha!!!!!!!!!! unless they using phenom x6
That's buLLshit
30 pc's into one? does that mean that one pc needs 30 graphics cards?
yea you can do it for gaming just raid the ssd 4user = 4 ssd and you need a good ram 1600mhz hahahahahahah
sir mujhe ncomputing x550 ka installation setup chahiye please mere email pe link share kijiye email:- alammdmuzaffar@gmail.com
It's waste dear!
Pls check my video
@@compute-universe yes new device no activation
Lol we have 1 PC in our classroom with 4 of these N-computing things (so we have 5 'PCs')... They're all garbage, it takes them 3 minutes to open the internet etc...
Arne Maeschaelck the main pc is slow like crap
No you don't.
no its not good for 3D graphics based gaming.....
This is a lie. My company started testing Ncomputing 2 years ago. And the stations will stop allowing you to logon. We have to format an reinstall the OS about every 6 months or sooner to repair it. The ncomputing people have been to our facility twice and can not fix this issue.
PARTE 6
EN RESUMEN LO QUE ESTE TIPO PROPONE EN EL VIDEO ES COMPLETAMENTE UNA MENTIRA.. SI QUIERES VIRTUALIZAR EN SERIO APUNTA HACIA SOLUCIONES ROBUSTAS COMO VMWARE, HYPER-V O CITRIX,, OBVIAMENTE CONTEMPLANDO INFRAESTRUCTURA (SERVIDORES, SWITCHES, STORAGES, ETC, ETC) TAMBIEN ROBUSTA.
POSDATA: OBVIAMENTE OLVIDATE DE JUEGOS Y COSAS QUE REQUIERAN BUEN VIDEO
Never Buy this ....This company Never support you and its very slow and waste